How a GOLD Player Gets CHALLENGER CS With This Guide! - Skill Capped

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Skill Capped Challenger LoL Guides

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@skillcapped
@skillcapped 3 жыл бұрын
let us know how ur average CS numbers increase friends (before and after!)
@niedoanimowanyrosomak9990
@niedoanimowanyrosomak9990 3 жыл бұрын
After i started watching you i increased from 130-150 in 30 mins to almost 10/min
@sonicboom5012
@sonicboom5012 3 жыл бұрын
Going into practice tool and just purely farming, I first got about 70 cs in 10 minutes, then later on I got 90 cs after some work
@lejhind4ryadcarry328
@lejhind4ryadcarry328 3 жыл бұрын
Is it fine for an ADC to splitpush if his solo laners decide to aram ?
@deadtoy5360
@deadtoy5360 3 жыл бұрын
What do you do if they send 2-4 people for you every time you split push and your team sits in mid lane literally afk or clearing raptors and wolves? Also, if everyone is playing "perfectly" then mid, top, and bot would all be "splitting", or literally just rotating. And if all the laners don't go to dragon fights and push lanes, you're basically saying to give up drakes. All laner's playing perfectly would just increase the amount of pick potential the enemy team has by 3 times.
@pullywooly
@pullywooly 3 жыл бұрын
@@lejhind4ryadcarry328 Yes, but only if you know for absolute certain the capabilities of the enemy team, and there location. If champions you can outplay are not visible/turn to contest, go for it. If 2+ enemies are unknown in location, or the super fed that can easily dive onto you is missing, you'd better stick to just the collection zones of the lanes. Remember - missing that dangerous wave will pay off more often than not. You can't farm when dead. Also, utilise jungle camps. Say your splitting in bot, t1 towers are down for both sides. You push the wave just beyond your tower's safety, and no idea where the enemies are - get krugs. Gives you time to watch the map, learn locations, and determine if the wave is safe to continue pushing.
@RCGI1
@RCGI1 3 жыл бұрын
"Collect all the waves nasus is splitpushing" Unless you're someone who can actually survive a nasus tower dive, this is not recommended
@1SSJA
@1SSJA 3 жыл бұрын
Which is usually every bruiser, and nobody else
@kinmakin2180
@kinmakin2180 3 жыл бұрын
@@1SSJA every bruiser and a fed life steal abuser champ*
@Idontknow-rh6cl
@Idontknow-rh6cl 3 жыл бұрын
@@kinmakin2180 or if you are fed (except if you are support)
@campiione
@campiione 3 жыл бұрын
@@Idontknow-rh6cl fed nasus>>>>>fed adc
@parafuegosarchive
@parafuegosarchive 3 жыл бұрын
@@kinmakin2180 ultra fed brusier
@stupidron7108
@stupidron7108 3 жыл бұрын
Flaming the LCS for NAram, love it.
@kaiz1845
@kaiz1845 3 жыл бұрын
LCS, also known as, literally cannot sidelane
@McconneIIRet
@McconneIIRet 3 жыл бұрын
EU does it too
@deejayf69
@deejayf69 3 жыл бұрын
2:40 you forgot it's the shortest lane to run it d-....I mean teamfight
@jianvandepol3651
@jianvandepol3651 3 жыл бұрын
Not first Not second Not third Just late
@skillcapped
@skillcapped 3 жыл бұрын
do better next time jian
@franciscos.2301
@franciscos.2301 3 жыл бұрын
@@skillcapped Korean advice
@foreheadgoals
@foreheadgoals 3 жыл бұрын
“Have good map awareness so you don’t die” *enemy has m7 Evelyn*
@TheRalphbitch
@TheRalphbitch 3 жыл бұрын
Mataery doesn't mean anything tho, I have 2 mil mastery on jinx and I can't win game without a team that has common sense.
@foreheadgoals
@foreheadgoals 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheRalphbitch that’s adc tho, you have no real agency other than scaling.
@notkml425
@notkml425 3 жыл бұрын
@@foreheadgoals this is just a lie that we tell to ourselves, a Challenger adc can carry most of the games in low elo
@tnamrod
@tnamrod 3 жыл бұрын
@@notkml425 This is true, if you really think that you can't win because of your team they did a guide 2 months ago on ADC Macro kzbin.info/www/bejne/r3Kcloeepthmq6c every role can carry the game in low elo it's about how you play the game that gets you the win
@WhitePum4
@WhitePum4 3 жыл бұрын
@@notkml425 Nah they need a duo to either carry them or support them to do that.
@dominicl118
@dominicl118 3 жыл бұрын
You know, it’s really annoying when I’m playing Aatrox or Jax and I splitpush botlane and the enemy sends 3 at me but then my team decides to walk over to me instead of doing baron or taking mid towers.
@tumblecheck
@tumblecheck 3 жыл бұрын
My frustrations come when we win a fight and could take a tower, but everyone backs off or goes to a different lane, leaving me to try and solo the tower before the other team either rotate or revive.
@vinaayagamkarunagaran3439
@vinaayagamkarunagaran3439 3 жыл бұрын
skill capped: how to get challenger cs me who mains jungler: interesting
@MadnanTheArcher
@MadnanTheArcher 3 жыл бұрын
I wish my average junglers would learn atleast the basics of wave management, i usually get screwed over by a jungler coming by for a "gank" but doesnt even get a flash, then he starts pushing/taxing my wave and gives the enemy a freeze, then he leaves
@vinaayagamkarunagaran3439
@vinaayagamkarunagaran3439 3 жыл бұрын
@@MadnanTheArcher understandable. i took jungle role so this doesn't happen the secret for a good gank is timing, positioning and map awareness : junglers should only gank lanes when a) they know they can secure the kill b) enemy laner is overextended until they can flank them from the back c) when enemy jungler is at the opposite lane d) when your team's laner is in danger and needs help immediately try telling these to your jungler, maybe it might help
@MadnanTheArcher
@MadnanTheArcher 3 жыл бұрын
@@vinaayagamkarunagaran3439 yeah, my junglers know none of these. I almost exclusively get ganks when my jungler is done clearing every single jungle camp, then he gets a flash maybe, and then taxes my wave and breaks my freeze
@vinaayagamkarunagaran3439
@vinaayagamkarunagaran3439 3 жыл бұрын
@@MadnanTheArcher if every other role in your team is good other than jungler, maybe you should try jungling because usually junglers don't understand the laners well, but if a laner jungles, he can see which opportunities can cause a good or bad gank since he knows the laners full potential
@dcngn_
@dcngn_ 3 жыл бұрын
@@vinaayagamkarunagaran3439 I'm a laner. Whenever I play jungle, I'm just useless lol. I always feel overwhelmed by every lane asking for help
@samwang5589
@samwang5589 3 жыл бұрын
Lucian got mid tower while the whole team died around dragon. A dozen of question marks on Lucian. Team rage quit.
@HypAXis
@HypAXis 3 жыл бұрын
/mute all
@Douglas-Heffernan
@Douglas-Heffernan 3 жыл бұрын
@@HypAXis i felt that
@entropicplays162
@entropicplays162 3 жыл бұрын
This happens to me all the time in my games in gold elo. Say we are about to do dragon and I am mid lane, so I try to push out the waves so they crash into the enemy tower before rotating so I can punish the enemy if they don't go and collect those waves, and team is always mad at me because I don't group as fast as they want me to. Another thing I hate in this stupid elo is how junglers always force bad dragons without considering the game state, which means they think it's good to take a dragon just because they can, even if I as a mid laner is hard shoved in under my tower and would need 1-2 ganks in order to get prio, or bot just reset etc. Really, just fuck this stupid objective. Idk why people tunnel so hard on it just because soul. Yeah, soul is nice, but my goal is not to have a 25+ min long time playing for soul each game, but to try to end it as effectively as possible as early as possible.
@mauer1
@mauer1 3 жыл бұрын
* because lucian is constantly checking minimap and activly looking for what they are doing with his free cam, he can react in time to carry the random dragon fight his team is going for while he threatens to take the tower uncontested.
@magicfibre
@magicfibre 3 жыл бұрын
If only my supports were not obsessed about following me to every lane throughout almost the entire game
@izyizhan3561
@izyizhan3561 3 жыл бұрын
Even worse takes your cs
@mikewasasuke9695
@mikewasasuke9695 3 жыл бұрын
@@3picgam3r99 i experienced that with a velkoz "support" the other day. Was up 40 cs from enemy adc and everytime i go to a free lane he shoves it in. Enemy adc proceeds to have more cs than me in 10mins
@cagrgokmen1180
@cagrgokmen1180 3 жыл бұрын
same with the lux "supports" in general.
@mildchaos6037
@mildchaos6037 3 жыл бұрын
As a mid main, the junglers coming in for a gank, then our opponent backs off and he takes it upon himself to help me push the wave.... bruh you have 4 jungles to yourself, leave some farm for us 😭
@TheRalphbitch
@TheRalphbitch 3 жыл бұрын
@@3picgam3r99 u mean thay annoying ass yas player 🤦‍♂️
@DaGaJbmKojJe
@DaGaJbmKojJe 3 жыл бұрын
I managed to miss every single canon 5 ranked games in a row so I'm probably beyond helping
@mspectrum
@mspectrum 3 жыл бұрын
I can confirm, I was the minion
@Tusda
@Tusda 3 жыл бұрын
XDDD
@luisghernandez7491
@luisghernandez7491 3 жыл бұрын
Akali main I guess? xD
@adnox383
@adnox383 3 жыл бұрын
Can we get something like "Ask Hector" series, where we ask some questions and he tries to answers them in next video
@skyereave9454
@skyereave9454 3 жыл бұрын
This needs more likes
@mathuraphael9196
@mathuraphael9196 2 жыл бұрын
They provide it for signed members
@Korner555
@Korner555 3 жыл бұрын
10:30 i wish that was the case in low elo. What actually happens in low elo: We get baron buff, and my team goes to farm the jungle, where they get caught and we instantly lose baron buff.
@ibrahimgamer4827
@ibrahimgamer4827 2 жыл бұрын
i mean you could ignore ur team and go side pushing
@Korner555
@Korner555 2 жыл бұрын
@@ibrahimgamer4827 Split pushing doesn't work like that, you need your team to create a distraction. If you split push while your team doesn't create any pressure on the other side of the map, then the whole enemy team will collapse on you. --> You die and your team still doesn't do anything.
@ibrahimgamer4827
@ibrahimgamer4827 2 жыл бұрын
@@Korner555 You said ur team were dying and lose the buff so split from to atleast keep it for pushing when the get revived or smth
@Skystrike70
@Skystrike70 2 жыл бұрын
Farm the jungle first so they can't justify wasting time in the jungle
@karsonkammerzell6955
@karsonkammerzell6955 3 жыл бұрын
This why I always bring my thickest gurl to every split push. You might bring 3 to 5 people, but my Illaoi is taking at least 1 of you with her, lol.
@belongsinthetrash1543
@belongsinthetrash1543 3 жыл бұрын
aw
@Saigonas
@Saigonas 3 жыл бұрын
😳😳
@mauer1
@mauer1 3 жыл бұрын
unless of course the enemy just leave after your ult.
@Shinou00
@Shinou00 3 жыл бұрын
I've been playing ARAM only for many years and got tired of it (it's actually dogshit) and went back to summoner's rift recently. Whenever I play it's always surprising how many people just leave waves with 10+ cs push to their turret, I thought people got better over time but they still do the same mistakes as back then! I think when you said "being scared of being blamed for not grouping" you made the best point in the vid! Lots of people actually don't want to group but peer pressure's a bitch
@devodm
@devodm 3 жыл бұрын
Only dog shit because the shitty champ rotations and afks other than that, imo i find it way better than rift lmao
@deadtoy5360
@deadtoy5360 3 жыл бұрын
Have you heard of Hotelling's Model of Spatial Competition? This video's strategy is just to get advantages by going against the trend. Basically its a very selfish strategy because it relies on your team not doing the same, disregarding objective fights for more cs, and forcing your team to either give up the objective or fight outnumbered fights. If they keep sending 2-4 people to kill you, and if your team does nothing in the meanwhile, the game is only going to get delayed. And in low elo solo queue, you barely get anyone to listen to your baron pings, or they do it 30 seconds after you die. If you split push, literally the worst case scenario is 4 man ace, lose baron. The best you can do with a champ that's not trynd or fiora is tier 2 turret or inhib turret. The best case scenario is you die while 4 man run you down and your team starts baron 30 seconds after you die.
@Shinou00
@Shinou00 3 жыл бұрын
@@devodm exactly why i call it dogshit
@Tartiris1
@Tartiris1 3 жыл бұрын
You just turn off the chat and ignore what your team is telling you to do.
@deadtoy5360
@deadtoy5360 3 жыл бұрын
@@Tartiris1 I just played a game, I was getting perma pushed by an irelia as vayne. My rammus jungle didn't even gank once. So I split pushed bot after laning phase, team got 4 man aced, they ran it mid and of course I can't 5v1 so we lose. Team blames me for split pushing. I guess this is how I get to challenger.
@Jacob-cc2rq
@Jacob-cc2rq 3 жыл бұрын
5:40 "GGEZ mid gap. Our mid laner is an idiot" Followed by a lot of question mark pings.
@Mat_O.
@Mat_O. 3 жыл бұрын
Go play starcraft, u’ll learn how to watch map :D
@tekno404
@tekno404 3 жыл бұрын
I don't have money for starcraft
@Fksjdkskhdksjsh
@Fksjdkskhdksjsh 3 жыл бұрын
@@tekno404 StarCraft is free
@MadnanTheArcher
@MadnanTheArcher 3 жыл бұрын
at 6:30 saying that your team can poke them off baron while you get towers is really funny, as i already know 100% for a fact, that my team instead will hard-engage their team and get quadra killed by the 0/7 master yi. As i have seen it happen several times before
@rzl34
@rzl34 3 жыл бұрын
yes but you achieve a decent situation by pushing bot and making the enemy pay for taking baron by losing 1 or 2 towers, however if you are playing a splitpusher champion and have teleport it may not be a bad idea to look for a teleport flank onto baron after crashing wave into bot, as long as you think that teleport can win the fight and get baron, the chance of this flank working increases significantly if enemy toplaner has no teleport but backs to hold your splitpush because you can turn it into a 5v4 flank on baron this way. The trick is first and foremost analyzing if you can win the 5v5, if not you should aim to take towers while splitting and ping your team to concede baron while stopping enemy recalls instead of engaging 4v5, and your aim is to take towers asap until somebody comes for you. If you can win the fight however it's not a bad idea to crash bot, teleport for 5v5 and win it with a flank because enemies will be losing botside farm if you made it slowpush towards you before flanking, which costs them twice as much if you actually win the 5v5. If you cannot split and cannot 5v5, then look to bait one, or even better two people towards you, place vision beforehand, and outrotate them for a 4v3 with your team with teleport(unless you are a mobile champion who can do it without teleport) while they look for you on bot
@hollowsins1016
@hollowsins1016 3 жыл бұрын
ayoooooo lit video, i can tell already
@shrektheogre5430
@shrektheogre5430 3 жыл бұрын
This would work wonderfully only if people on silver weren’t so unpredictable. I mean, they literally do the most unexpected things.
@ilparil5236
@ilparil5236 3 жыл бұрын
Just play 100 games. Then you will be at the rank of your skill level.
@shrektheogre5430
@shrektheogre5430 3 жыл бұрын
@@ilparil5236 I’m currently on platinum with my smurf. I’ve played about 50 games, so let’s see what’s my real level.
@alonman1hertzman650
@alonman1hertzman650 3 жыл бұрын
"In low elo and the LCS" Wait, does that mean that the LCS is low elo? Or that low elo is the LCS?
@robertasvaicius4437
@robertasvaicius4437 3 жыл бұрын
If were talking about NA then yeah low elo plays in lcs
@Gorgutek1
@Gorgutek1 3 жыл бұрын
no, it does not. You should take some logic classes i guess
@benderandownz
@benderandownz 3 жыл бұрын
@@Gorgutek1 You must be fun at parties.
@Oncus2
@Oncus2 3 жыл бұрын
I'm pushing top while my team randomly engages a 4v5, that's right they start it. They lose horribly of course. Next few seconds a bunch of people ping me.
@jahfaricoumarbatch3947
@jahfaricoumarbatch3947 3 жыл бұрын
I know fam. this happens to me but about 15 seconds before that, I would have spam pinged them danger and said don't fight without me in chat.
@amphibiousone
@amphibiousone 3 жыл бұрын
Frustrating at this is, we all feel you, I just mute people. No one is muted at the start of the game, but the moment someone pings or types to flame, they're muted (even if it's not me they ping). It's much easier to play the game if you just assume no one is pinging or talking.
@exusbuurn905
@exusbuurn905 3 жыл бұрын
I had a question. At 5:27, what should the Diana have done instead? Don't they just lose 5v5? Isn't committing to a side lane better in that instance?
@dub5711
@dub5711 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the same question, isn't Diana's team composition about making picks, and not about fighting 5v5?
@ma-cg1il
@ma-cg1il 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe she should have pushed top and flanked the enemy team when they engage
@umcaraqualquer3640
@umcaraqualquer3640 3 жыл бұрын
As the dude above said, a flank might've been the best option.
@igorrodolphoms
@igorrodolphoms 3 жыл бұрын
Every time I see a video, I see a mistake that I didn't even realized I make
@NamoPhoenix
@NamoPhoenix 3 жыл бұрын
Once a Chinese super server said: if your Farming minions, youre just too insecure to farm Champions
@logical_chaos
@logical_chaos 3 жыл бұрын
This is pretty helpful. I pretty much just play norms and as Zoe I'll often start to get a lead but before I can really snowball both teams decide to start going ARAM ridiculously early and I lose my lead. It may be time to ignore them when they start doing that to get my cs up when possible. I tend to get As almost every game but I have yet to get an S for mastery due to my cs and it's embarrassing having 80k points but still only mastery 5, even if I'm usually not doing poorly.
@T4L0L
@T4L0L 2 жыл бұрын
Zoe is not a splitpusher champ!! You have to splitpush with champs that can either 1v3 and kill one or get out alive.. I mean in low elo you can 1v3 with many but.. Zoe is not a splitpusher, definitely.
@quentinlauterbach
@quentinlauterbach 3 жыл бұрын
how do you fix a wave that doesnt properly bounce because you win lane hard and therefore your minioins are stronger?
@zehk7963
@zehk7963 3 жыл бұрын
Hopefully you can take the turret if you're that far ahead and then you push your wave past the ruins of their T1 turret to achieve a similar (though not as good) effect. You still have prio in that lane but the enemy is more easily able to farm it.
@griffinstirling5500
@griffinstirling5500 3 жыл бұрын
I am a mid main, I’m unranked and just starting out, everyone on my team will always come mid and then we share cs. I never knew what to do, should I stay with my team or go collect waves in other lanes. Thx, this guide helpfull
@entropicplays162
@entropicplays162 3 жыл бұрын
Never group for no reason. If you see waves coming towards your towers, just go there and collect it.
@XDXDXDXDHAHAHAHAHHAXDXDXDXDXD
@XDXDXDXDHAHAHAHAHHAXDXDXDXDXD 2 жыл бұрын
@@entropicplays162 in low elo its sometimes better to just stick with your team in midlane
@MK-U-N
@MK-U-N 3 жыл бұрын
2 weeks ago, I was as Teemo, pushing top lane all the way to the enemy nexus, while my team in midlane, teamfighting, is crying in chat, because I'm ''not helping them in anyway''. I gained enough CS to get an S, and won us the game. They still weren't happy. Some people just can not be pleased. Sad. Not sure what they want me to do. Go to midlane causing me to lose CS and gold and possibly die to enemy heavy CC comp? Pretty much to throw the game just to please them? Never mentioned skill in the chat, but got called a noob and no skilled player by a Galio player and pretty much learnt for the 100th of time that my champion pick doesn't need any skill to play. Such is LoL. Very positive community with all the right tools to help other players to not lose their motivation. Not.
@T4L0L
@T4L0L 2 жыл бұрын
You get flamed if you suck but you get much more flame when you try to carry 1v9.. All your teammates are saying is really just "stop trying to be better than us come here and be a noob just like we are, let's aram mid". But you MUST know the ONLY way you might have to win is keep the push on that lane.. Keep it on 😘
@ioniann7741
@ioniann7741 3 жыл бұрын
If you see at least 3 enemies on the map and they are not on the lane you‘re currently farming - continue farming. If you see no enemies stop farming, retreat, wait until you see more than 3 enemies and go to the opposite side lane that they‘re on. Easy as that.
@nlrs6212
@nlrs6212 3 жыл бұрын
Pro tip if you are scared of the team flaming you /mute all
@ApocalypticFart
@ApocalypticFart 3 жыл бұрын
The old theme kicking in at 6:36 i can't be happier 😭
@Puni9000
@Puni9000 3 жыл бұрын
Any idea what the name of the theme is?
@ApocalypticFart
@ApocalypticFart 3 жыл бұрын
@@Puni9000 I'm still looking for the old skillcapped themes myself no luck yet
@loudarck2402
@loudarck2402 3 жыл бұрын
@@ApocalypticFart have been a year looking for it good luck mate xD
@ApocalypticFart
@ApocalypticFart 3 жыл бұрын
@@loudarck2402 4 years here. All the old themes were and still are gold. If you ever manage to find one please let me know
@Rojobean11
@Rojobean11 3 жыл бұрын
Just remember this tip only works in elo above silver. In silver and below, your team will group and flame if you don't 100% of the time. There is no educating your team every game so you can use this proper technique.
@rangelmdrs
@rangelmdrs 2 жыл бұрын
You dont need this tip to trive in silver elo. Just do something and you win, since everybody is throwing away their games.
@DlCKWALLACE
@DlCKWALLACE Жыл бұрын
@@rangelmdrs "Just do something and you win". There it is, the key to climbing. Doing something.
@timetorelaxph
@timetorelaxph 3 жыл бұрын
1.Tries to follow guide 2. My team fights 4v5 3. Team flames me.
@AzraelJiraco
@AzraelJiraco 3 жыл бұрын
"This also applies to bot lane" *gets dove by the Nasus whilst the team fights 4v4 without a marksman*
@TheDSasterX
@TheDSasterX 3 жыл бұрын
Years ago Lucian cleansed slows with e, so obvs he could take on Nasus now! ^_^
@cernos7230
@cernos7230 3 жыл бұрын
If a person is bleeding apply pressure
@iRexam
@iRexam 3 жыл бұрын
Great Guide! I have currently 7.3 cs in average and dropped only 2 ranks!
@CptApplestrudl
@CptApplestrudl 3 жыл бұрын
Fixing the wave apparently implies that you return later to pick up that slow pushing wave, because otherwise it's gonna tear down your tower.
@1SSJA
@1SSJA 3 жыл бұрын
Yea well you deserve to be iron if you can't realize that a wave is coming to your tower
@thestellarvoid7077
@thestellarvoid7077 Жыл бұрын
Yeah. The point is to fix the freeze in the middle of the lane so your minions do tower damage. The tower kills your minions which forces the enemy to lose a bunch of gold. It can also force the enemy to have to react to the minion wave. When your minions die the enemy minions will arrive and bounce the wave back towards your tower. More waves will arrive. This is when you want to fix the wave again.
@iTzMeLaur
@iTzMeLaur 3 жыл бұрын
Ok, let's say that im pushing, and im close to their base, and my team is starting a bad fighting mid, and they lose it, what should i do? Tell them to stay back and don't fight? Everytime i say that and they are still starting fights
@dothatroll8482
@dothatroll8482 3 жыл бұрын
im sayin' this from a botlaner perspective, here on botlane everything is black and white if they start a bad fight mid with all of their members there and you cant come to help em(reasons: you die instantly, you dont get there in time, your way too behind for you to deal effective damage, the fight just looks too weird and u dont wanna risk it) you can look to push the lane ur standing on and take their turret or take all of their jungle camps(depending on how much time do u got untill they are done with that fight), take herald/drake and ward in crucial places(next objective your team's gonna go to is drake you ward drake, next objective they gonna be on is a turret you ward a place that the enemy team will possibly ambush your team etc.) the map is your only friend because if you see them coming to you without looking at the map your probably dead in the next 5 seconds, never risk going sidelane if someone you cant kite or kill is not on the map at least one lane distance between you and him be happy about dudes that int teamfights they are your tanks no matter what role they play (assasin/mage/fighter etc) they let you deal damage for free , use fog of war for surprise attacks tell your support to ward the enemy jungle after you killed em dont expect your team to win anything play with the mindset that if you didnt joined that fight its probably doomed so continue your job without looking back and the last thing win! welcome to botlane! 6:35 for example of somethings that i said up there.(look at his map he saw every member of the enemy team and full commited on that)
@iTzMeLaur
@iTzMeLaur 3 жыл бұрын
@@dothatroll8482 chill, im not free from inting players in ranked, everymatch u see a mid inting, or bot inting, or inting jg and ignoring drags, im mostly playing ranked as top or supp or even sometimes mid, even if im main ashe
@dothatroll8482
@dothatroll8482 3 жыл бұрын
@@iTzMeLaur like i said inting players are the best u just cant see why, if they int fights that's great they are meatballs if they int lanes its kinda good luck if u dont help em
@apashehab5026
@apashehab5026 3 жыл бұрын
@@iTzMeLaur jg is easily the best role to climb with
@iTzMeLaur
@iTzMeLaur 3 жыл бұрын
@@apashehab5026 So that's why there are too many bastards inting in ranked
@Saomaro007
@Saomaro007 3 жыл бұрын
Just for Adc? I wanna have Chall CS as support too! But i think its working i even have doublr challenger cs since i started to do it on support, but my team doesnt understand it..
@TheDendran
@TheDendran 3 жыл бұрын
"Lets say your Toplaners job is to hold bot from the splitpushing Nasus" (who has been farming for 30 minutes now) "...you can head down there and collect all the waves Nasus is pushing into your base..." Nasus: "What an interesting looking minion... How much gold do *_you_* give?"
@baldvinornolason1701
@baldvinornolason1701 2 жыл бұрын
In such a scenario more people would need to rotate. They are telling you to free farm given the chance. Not engaging 1vs1 against a stronger opponent :)
@glasslilacs
@glasslilacs 3 жыл бұрын
I'm getting tired of these videos, because they always show you how to do things in a perfect isolated scenario and then go "Hey look, it's actually this easy!". No it's not. You can't always just go to a sidelane in the middle of a mid teamfight scenario. More often than not your team will lose due to a number deficiency and the enemy will siege midlane incredibly hard, whilst you got nothing done. 10 cs is not worth throwing the whole game over. There's also incredibly many factors that just make this strategy entirely nonviable. What if you're fed and need to carry fights to win objectives? What if you're really behind and the enemy has a fed assassin? What if the enemy holds 80% map control and getting farm in literally any lane is an overextension? Or how about when all lanes are pushed in and the jungle is cleared? What then? This game is far too complex to just give a one-size-fits-all explanation on how to do things. And that's why sure, one singular test subject in a sample size of 2 games can get that kind of CS, but it will not be possible to achieve this consistently over time by doing this. And I'm not saying macro is bad here, a lot of people have poor macro that costs them a lot of potential resources, but we really can't keep going "just go sidelanes 4Head". CS per minute depends on each individual game, and getting high CS isn't always a goal. Some games are just scrappy and you will have low numbers even if you're doing well. I'd say to just focus on getting your timing and feel for damage in the early game down so you get as many minions as possible during the lane. Learning to manipulate waves when against high-damage opponents is also an integral skill to doing better in games in general. Also don't waste time with 4 people chasing 1 guy for example, leave the kill to the others and do something productive in the meantime. This uptime will net you a decent advantage over time.
@Elias-mv4ps
@Elias-mv4ps 3 жыл бұрын
True
@binarywolfcia85
@binarywolfcia85 3 жыл бұрын
11:15 I do not recall having an enemy fiora hitting my inhib tower while grouped at baron. I also main fiora, and am constantly split pushing to apply pressure.
@DoganayBY
@DoganayBY 3 жыл бұрын
11:50 When you try to split push, let's not forget that the whole team will swear at you even though you are doing the right thing. They don't know a single thing about split pushing and swear at you because you are doing it. Last game I did this, was when 3 enemy pushing bottom lane while I was pushing the mid lane. The reason that I didn't go to the bottom lane is, there were only 1 ally and I wasn't fed enough to protect our tower, so I tried to get the most gold out of the mid tower instead of walking to the bottom lane for 20 seconds and sitting there or probably dying.
@mildchaos6037
@mildchaos6037 3 жыл бұрын
I had a game where I split pushed and got 3 towers and my teammates were ping spamming because I wasn’t at the dragon fight when they all got wiped lol
@rtrt4580
@rtrt4580 3 жыл бұрын
Fullmute everyone and enjoy your peaceful freelo
@l9139
@l9139 3 жыл бұрын
@@rtrt4580 Its never felt so...peaceful till I muted all
@grypph
@grypph 2 жыл бұрын
6:22 Wdym there’s no frontline for Baron? Master Yi solos Baron with BORK without even trying
@FinlayDaG33k
@FinlayDaG33k 3 жыл бұрын
And then there's me: "Don't wanna fight? why? because I want to inflate my CS/minute stat"
@angiegamez8600
@angiegamez8600 2 жыл бұрын
Mid game I feel so weird not being in a side lane, if not split pushing at least clearing a wave or two and getting vision
@timon4652
@timon4652 3 жыл бұрын
I have a question! I play lux mid in bronze elo and she doesn't really do that much damage to turrets, is it worth it to split push?
@demon3203
@demon3203 3 жыл бұрын
Lux as solid wave clear. So its okay to split push as lux, but not to get towers. Just to get free gold and push the waves back. Your role in teammates fights will be bursting people, CC and if you need to buy time wave clearing. Just remember that last part. If the enemy wants to push tower and you can't fight you should just be tossing abilities into the minions and clearing them out so they have nothing to push with. This allows you by yourself to stall out a team buying time for your actual split pusher to get towers or for your team to group up and defend with you.
@danyang1613
@danyang1613 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a low-dia high plat jgl main and can confirm, sometimes it was me that actually understands how the lane works, and I get to farm all those "unwanted" waves. I often end up the same or more CS than mid/adc, and I'm not even a carrying jgler (means I never steal cs from the laners).
@schere1161
@schere1161 3 жыл бұрын
Nothing against a good old Naram
@ryanhaase2491
@ryanhaase2491 2 жыл бұрын
6:15 they have no frontline for baron. Master yi solos at 20 mins
@lastnamefirstname2390
@lastnamefirstname2390 3 жыл бұрын
After watching this video my cs is now negative. GG.
@thisone9397
@thisone9397 3 жыл бұрын
I like how they assume my xerath and nidalee can hit skill shots🙃
@middleofdecember9862
@middleofdecember9862 3 жыл бұрын
6:00 they got amazing team comp and u r saying go ahead and fall into their win condition! @Skill Capped Challenger LoL Guides
@PabloLopez-tz2zq
@PabloLopez-tz2zq 3 жыл бұрын
I enjoy the ARAM MID fights its pretty fun
@Kipnack1
@Kipnack1 3 жыл бұрын
I wish people didn’t farm side lanes in my games... where I’m from even supports are stealing farm
@rails4328
@rails4328 3 жыл бұрын
This is why I always tell anyone if they want to climb they should play top and play champs that are split push gods like trynd, jax and trundle. When I play trundle top I deny the fact that my team even exists and just split push top 24/7. Whether I lost lane or not does not matter since I'll be putting pressure top and the beauty of it is that if I get collapsed on and I'm fed it turns into a fight in my favor, if I'm behind then it still does not matter since I'll be worth 0 gold. That's why the lesson of the day is that you need to focus on cs and placing pressure on the enemy team because they'll start making mistakes and these mistakes will allow your team to acquire objectives a lot easier as they have to send someone to deal with you or you'll take inhib or even end the game
@Hizsoo
@Hizsoo 3 жыл бұрын
I don't need a team, I need farm!
@hainguyn948
@hainguyn948 3 жыл бұрын
That what Nasus would say
@nomorefails4213
@nomorefails4213 3 жыл бұрын
"In low elo and the LCS" you got me dead haha 1:46
@ray3608
@ray3608 3 жыл бұрын
As a Fiora main, I have a lot of fun taking inhibs while my team trades 4 for 5.
@RS6y6
@RS6y6 3 жыл бұрын
So many times I go to push a sidelane and the enemy reacts, sending 3-4 people on me. Ok I can die but at least teammates should push two other lanes yes? No bc they always come to "" help"" me ofc being late and dying to enemy one by one...
@demon3203
@demon3203 3 жыл бұрын
to be fair, if you're dying while split pushing you're split pushing wrong. Look at map. Anyone you don't see assume they are coming to you. Then ask yourself, can i win a fight against them? If no and most the time its no, just leave or float. You don't have to leave lane. You can retreat back enough the rotating players won't catch you, but stay close enough that you can easily walk back to lane and catch the wave after they push it back. TLDR : At no point in this or any guide do they tell you or encourage you to split push until death. In fact this and many other guides encourage you to split push and hits towers when no one is around. Retreating when people do or will show up.
@RS6y6
@RS6y6 3 жыл бұрын
@@demon3203 I understand what you's saying. But have you ever played a low elo game where basically the teams are araming mig and the only tank is the team never knows when to engage and he's not even there to be the frontline. It's a 5v5 and it doesn't lead anywhere, only to bad situation bc e.g. enemy has a lot of cc, our adc has no dmg, our tank doesn't know their job. There are simply team comps where without strategy, you can't win and ppl in low elo doesn't care or know. They try anyway and feed and rage. So if i'm a champ that will die if i go in and they don't follow or simply i can't even try to go in, then i either leave them and try to take and objective or i die with them. Enemy is the same stupid, again, it's low elo. They are basicslly always letting me take a turret, sometimes even a lot more. This way as i do this i farm alone, get gold and xp and objectives. But ofc team is flaming if they go into s 4v5 and they die. But how many times it happened that slowly but this is how we got objectives and won. While also, when enemy finally notices me, sometimes i simply can't get away. As stupid as it is, many times, they all 5 come, go back to base or even tp to me. They do this and ofc as soon as i see them disappearing on the map, i try to run away. But sometimes i just simply die or get a fight with them then die. Team would have olenty of time to take a turret at mid as the aram stopped there. They could make this death worth. But no, they rotate there and die again. Usually one by one. This is what i tried to tell above
@mahakuasa9569
@mahakuasa9569 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks skill capped, now I'm Faker!
@mattdrew4563
@mattdrew4563 3 жыл бұрын
Does this work for junglers ? I always get fed in the early game but in the mid and late game don't know how to carry
@GubbiGap
@GubbiGap 3 жыл бұрын
Hey bro go watch this video (also from skillcapped) on that kzbin.info/www/bejne/jYOwqYt4eNOfkKc
@aaronjiang878
@aaronjiang878 3 жыл бұрын
"In low elo... and the LCS" 1:49 Ahh why is my region so shiiiiiiiiit
@IstvanKeresztes89
@IstvanKeresztes89 3 жыл бұрын
Fine, i have constant 9.0< farm, and still hardstuck silver :(
@ummerkasana
@ummerkasana 3 жыл бұрын
Kinda misleading. Hes getting 7.7 cs per min against other gold/plat players, so its not exactly challenger cs. Getting challenger cs is being able to get that cs number in a challenger game with a challenger enemy team pressuring you. Its kinda like if I go into silver and cs against silver players. I can put out " challenger " numbers easy
@LittlePawLeora
@LittlePawLeora 3 жыл бұрын
I hate the assumption that you can get perfect cs every game when it's not always the case because someone always applies more pressure than the other . Especially since I'm bot it's really based on my support. If they are aggro yeah I get more . It's rare like 1/10 games I get 10-12 per minute but standard is always 6-8 simply from hard pressure from enemy support or jungle
@entropicplays162
@entropicplays162 3 жыл бұрын
@@LittlePawLeora Even if you look at challenger player average cs scores in their own games, they can have very low cs depending on how the game went for them. Maybe they just did badly and lost a lot of farm because in higher elo, if you misplay, you always get hard punished for that by missing cs because they got much better understanding of wave management (in very low elo people don't even push in waves after a kill, they just recall lol). Also sometimes the game is just a complete fiesta and the more you spend time fighting, the less time you have to be able to cs as well. It's not that you don't want to cs, but your team is literally making it impossible for you to do it, because fight after fight keeps breaking out and you just don't have the time to be somewhere else. In high elo, since people are much better at rotating, you can therefore sometimes see mid fiestas as early as level 3-4, where both junglers and the supports and sometimes even the adcs roam mid. Or you got these 4 or even 5 man early dives on top or bot tower, with TP plays coming in from both top and mid laners.
@drizzy6302
@drizzy6302 2 жыл бұрын
Basically be greedy isnt it
@technofreak39
@technofreak39 3 жыл бұрын
What I noticed is that even though everyone calls jungle a broken role (which it is, but only in low elo), they cant splitpush well. Even if you play tryndamere jungle you have to be with the majority of the team because if you dont as long as baron or drag is up, the enemy will simply take them cuz they have the smite advantage.
@demon3203
@demon3203 3 жыл бұрын
Sometimes its worth it to give up objectives for towers. More specifically if you can do a solid split over getting dragon is something i've seen a lot of junglers do.
@mildchaos6037
@mildchaos6037 3 жыл бұрын
If Bronze players (Like myself lol) would watch the pros, games don’t usually have kill counts 32 to 40, pros get to 15 and that’s a lot. I hate how in Bronze it’s just chaotic and fights constantly. Not saying I don’t belong here but I definitely can tell there’s an “all in” mentality here lol
@zehk7963
@zehk7963 3 жыл бұрын
If you are the one consistently getting the kills learning proper itemization or playing someone who snowballs particularly well can help you close out games faster. For instance, I play Karthus mid pretty often and will usually go Luden's - Oblivion Orb - Liandries because the flat pen from orb is enough to snowball in gold and below when people don't build MR.
@mildchaos6037
@mildchaos6037 3 жыл бұрын
@@zehk7963 yeah I usually run a tanky Galio since games go so long and enemy teams starts chunking
@demon3203
@demon3203 3 жыл бұрын
There is constant fighting in challenger elo to. In fact even more fighting in challenger elo. They just don't as often make mistakes or take fights that result in deaths, but they do trades and harass people when they try to CS all the time.
@dakshamalagatti7404
@dakshamalagatti7404 3 жыл бұрын
doesn't that mean taking turrets makes it harder to fix waves ? so perhaps letting turrets be taken after turret plates fall isnt such a bad idea after all?
@pbarrantesch
@pbarrantesch 3 жыл бұрын
Yes and no, your minions push harder after a turret falls. Somehow that autofixes the wave if no one else is there on the other team to fix it
@brightsteel5695
@brightsteel5695 3 жыл бұрын
@@pbarrantesch even minion rule the fallen side minions reinforce faster causing a slowpush to your tower
@DanielGonzalezRGB
@DanielGonzalezRGB 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, and it also reduce the area that you can farm, that's the mistake when you are a losing lane and the jg put the herald in your lane.
@dakshamalagatti7404
@dakshamalagatti7404 3 жыл бұрын
@@pbarrantesch I thought if my turret falls, enemy minions get stronger and push faster
@pbarrantesch
@pbarrantesch 3 жыл бұрын
@@dakshamalagatti7404 yeah, that's what I meant
@Ana05702
@Ana05702 3 жыл бұрын
3:00 he just missed a cannon
@MakZkovich
@MakZkovich 3 жыл бұрын
I mean I get 8-10cs per minute on ekko with just watching HHNeverlucky. euw.op.gg/summoner/userName=G2%20MakZ euw.op.gg/summoner/userName=HHNeverLucky%20v2
@ZRazehLoL
@ZRazehLoL 3 жыл бұрын
"Fighting is funner the stronger you are" simple and oblivious but profoundly true
@eVill420
@eVill420 2 жыл бұрын
11:40 Lucian would be trolling if he stayed just to get 160 gold instead of posturing for the fight
@Skystrike70
@Skystrike70 2 жыл бұрын
Kinda hating the "lol this is for MID (it works top and adc too trust" type of guides. No, they do not and I'll tell you why. Mid lane is the focal point of all the action mid-lategame, and you make no compromises to positioning when you go to collect farm. How can I go top and farm when a fight is happening around dragon soon? How can I go bot and farm when my laner is pressuring mid and they need help? And how can I take farm from another lane without getting flamed and griefed? Especially in lower elo, stupid fights mid can take a long time to break out but when they do, you need to be there. Your very presence in a sidelane can be a catalyst for a hurried engage by the enemy team. This guide doesn't help for that. "Just go respond to pushed lanes and take jungle farm on the way" ok and you assume nobody else is doing that? People are greedy af. 6:30 Hell no Irelia should not be sidelaning. Her team has far better teamfight considering the enemy is comprised of multiple squishy, low CC duelists that THRIVE on divided teams and sidelaning.
@themanidentifiedasdinosaur8138
@themanidentifiedasdinosaur8138 3 жыл бұрын
I just went 370+ cs at 33 minutes with my yorick top smite. Everyone is flaming me for taking top smite but everyone shut up when I handed them a win 8/1/7 with 370+ cs at 33 minutes. My lane opponent was Ryze at 150+ cs.
@Justin-ny8df
@Justin-ny8df 3 жыл бұрын
At around 5:30 when Diana was bot. Her team was a poke heavy comp. Should have hovered near baron, close enough to poke and far enough to not get hard engaged. Let Diana push, the moment they back to match Diana THEN take baron. That's just my opinion from a lowly gold player from the variables given.
@kekitowong
@kekitowong 3 жыл бұрын
How to have challenger level cs overnight: step 1. dont group step 2. farm everything step 3. ??? step 4. still losing? *install orbwalking last hitting scripts*
@TheBrettonia
@TheBrettonia 2 жыл бұрын
yea but majority of the time in low elo if i leave them be they all die x6-10 times (not even hypothetical bot lanes would go 20 deaths combined) and then im stuck fighting with giga fed fks that also have ALL their sums, that only works if ur mates arent that bad
@grim5113
@grim5113 3 жыл бұрын
My friend ( a mastery 7 illaoi whatever that means) says my cs-ing is horrible. He said it's bad to only have 60 cs after 40 min of a bot game. :P he did also explain he is in top 1k for his character in cs-ing though so he can't be too harsh on me -_-
@crystalrage
@crystalrage 3 жыл бұрын
Me a support main constantly. "Its baron not elder stop team fighting. Or on the flip side. It's baron just go around the minions and kill the one person standing there with baron buff. "Or the funniest to me, "the minions have baron buff there's clearly someone nearby, why are you alone with half hp"
@nicolajlhansen6350
@nicolajlhansen6350 3 жыл бұрын
Main issue I see is that the entire team don't know what they are doing, don't know about strengths and weakness and what the team comp should do. I see so many times they go fight when lanes are hard pushing towards us, we are down 10 kills, they still engage. If you leave them they die and before you get the wave pushed the enemies are already killing 3 turrets. Supports that clear parts of jungle where the enemies aren't and no objectives for 3-4 minutes. People running to the lane you are in because it was their lane, but you are already about to be there to clear it and ignore the other lanes. I even switched role because people just can't keep you somewhat safe as the adc.
@sohailsayeed9361
@sohailsayeed9361 3 жыл бұрын
Hey yo guy, can you please try to just talk normally? YoU tAlK lIkE tHiS. Your voice goes up and down in a distracting manner.
@Shiftry87
@Shiftry87 3 жыл бұрын
Lol did he actully make a hint towards that random ARAM game that happened in the LCS years ago. That game was legendary to watch live btw. Both from the casters casting an ARAM and the chat that followed.
@mihailomldnvc
@mihailomldnvc 3 жыл бұрын
yeah and then you put rekkles as your cs goal on blitz app.......10.2cs per min.......merciless monster...every game i cry....i cant do it...
@dusan9693
@dusan9693 3 жыл бұрын
AND I KNOW THIS BUT WHEN I AM PLAYING WITH MY FRIEND THAT IS YASUO MAIN FLAMES FOR NOT HELPING HIM 2V5 LIKE WHY TF ARE YOU EVEN
@onestag5434
@onestag5434 3 жыл бұрын
I just experienced this the other day when my Pyke support kept trying to 1v5 and dying while I was in the jungle securing vision for an objective.
@ExOTrOnHD
@ExOTrOnHD 3 жыл бұрын
My average cs increased to like 7.X, but I lose more games even tho I split and take side tower, but it dosnt really help if my team gets wiped and mechanically Im not good enough to solo carry games at all :/
@TheMihig
@TheMihig 3 жыл бұрын
But this is a double edged sword. You miss three pointless fights, but your team is still gonna take them and get annihilated. This will put the enemy team so much ahead that even with your lead, you often won't be able to carry. I guess those games are just unwinnable then?
@vukvukadinovic7953
@vukvukadinovic7953 3 жыл бұрын
Wow I thought challanger Cs is like 10 Cs per min, I have around 8, I'm better then faker, yessss
@KingSarathos
@KingSarathos 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like this advice is looking at the end number of 7cs/min and trying to cut corners to get there. Seems like the lesson being taught is that players should be afk farming instead of controlling objectives.
@rcyberpanda4100
@rcyberpanda4100 3 жыл бұрын
Ting I hate is i get 1st tiwere in like 1 min so I say swap bot but they do not want even to they are losing lane so I can get plate and start snowboling and I hate supp splitupsing and farming I ping them to go away but they don't and push it instead of me a 12/1 akali getting 15 Cs becuz it was slow pushing but morgana support rly needed it
@arvidrosenberg6720
@arvidrosenberg6720 3 жыл бұрын
I thought this video was clickbait but i went from 4.8 cs/ min to 7 cs/min as jax Pls dont like or share video so others dont get good
@lukajovanovski1178
@lukajovanovski1178 3 жыл бұрын
My avg cs number in plat is 6.5-8 really depends on the champ, champd like sylas im so bad at csing while yas and yone i sometimes go beyond to 9per min
@suguaakini4478
@suguaakini4478 3 жыл бұрын
My only question here is : Why is Bard taking the blue buff at the top right of the screen? ( at 1.20 )
@HopeYukizmizu
@HopeYukizmizu 3 жыл бұрын
I am a master of not getting dragged into helping team in fights. but im still iron 2
@isaquemz739
@isaquemz739 3 жыл бұрын
That's something good. But I tried it and worked... we won but I was really offended that game lol.
@manuellanthaler2001
@manuellanthaler2001 3 жыл бұрын
hey? helloooo? anyone still here? does this work good as a jungler too? i guess not so much and it depends on stuff for example giving a second cloud drake for me getting 2 waves or so?
@collinbrown9233
@collinbrown9233 3 жыл бұрын
This is literally the secret to league of legends, goodness
@likeengine6196
@likeengine6196 2 жыл бұрын
If someone goes drake everyone goes drake if u would be the only one whos pushing they would kill my team cause im not there and then they would rotate to me to kill me so split push just not that good
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