How Accurate are Dinosaur King's "FIRE" Dinosaurs?

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Dinosaur King's Fire Element consists of large Theropods. How do these models from the mid-late 2000s hold up against modern science?
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[@chadgorosaurus4898]

The people who made the Dinosaur King models were probably Tyrannosaur fans. They were able to consistently create almost perfect reconstructions for the time.

[@Howtoman126]

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[@dweebteambuilderjones7627]

Chauvanists, really, given that they put so much more work into the tyrannosaurs while generally neglecting everything else (especially the sauropods, Dinosaur King did them dirty).

[@user-sv4lg1hw2u]

It's probably because at the time kids were like "OOO S$#!¡ A T-REX" whenever they saw it and sega took this view as seriously as they could then

[@mrautismo420]

@@dweebteambuilderjones7627”chauvinism🤓🤓🤓☝️” Meanwhile the designers: t rex cool 🗿🗿🗿

[@kamiwriterleonardo6345]

Giganotosaurus: *Task failed successfully*

[@evodolka]

Like attempting a backflip, landing flat on your face, then getting back like that was the plan all along

[@SmashBrosAssemble]

Two things I will say; 1. The piece of music they use for Terry when he transforms into adult form, that should be the theme of all Tyrannosaurus’ in paleo media, the Tyrannosaurus March. 2. Dinosaur King’s Saurophaganax, that colouration to me is the Canon Saurophaganax.

[@Bagelgeuse]

I agree with all of this.

[@chadgorosaurus4898]

Terry's theme is only rivaled by Spiny's theme

[@tyrannossenpai]

Terry was always the underdog. I always screamed with joy any time he actually got a win. I know he’s a villain in the first season, but T. rex is my favorite dinosaur, so I always gotta show the support.

[@GTSE2005]

I think we can all agree that this Daspletosaurus' colours go really hard

[@TheTalkingT-rexGodzilla]

Happy to see my dear boy Terry holding up almost perfectly after all those years ❤️‍🔥. Truly one of the best constructed dinosaur models and an all-time favorite for many fans! Glad it didn’t get debunked so much as the Acrocanthosaurus…

[@gladiolus5377]

The Acrocanthosaurus from Dinosaur King is still iconic. It's alpha version has my favorite color palette of the fire dinosaurs along with Torvosaurus's one.

[@evodolka]

Oh yeah, I forgot about the Alpha variants, I really wish that it did more than a neat colour shift in the games

[@Bagelgeuse]

The Alpha Acrocanthosaurus was awesome.

[@gladiolus5377]

@@Bagelgeuse It sure was. Main reason why Acrocanthosaurus is one of my fav dinos.

[@evodolka]

@@Bagelgeuse agreed

[@weebcraft6829]

​@evodolka Technically the initial wave of Alpha Dinos had a unique poison mechanic. Rereleases all went back to normal types though.

[@daliborjovanovic510]

I haven't heard anyone doubting the placement of Acrocanthosaurus as a carcharodontosaurid in a long while. Yes, in the past it was classified as an allosaurid, megalosaurid and even a spinosaurid, but that was all before the 1995 discovery of Giganotosaurus and the 1996 re-discovery of Carcharodontosaurus, and our understanding of the carcharodontosaurids as a natural group crystalized in the mid 2000s with the description of Tyrannotitan and Mapusaurus. I think the last time Acrocanthosaurus was suggested to be an allosaurid was in a 2000 study.

[@evodolka]

Oh so that was an old way of seeing it then? That bit really caught me off guard, so I thought it was like a new study that I missed

[@StarMaker8442]

When i was a kid collecting these cards I made up an entire Autobot vs Decepticon type of war between all the elements. Yangchuanosaurus was the starscream to tyrannosaurus rex and kept trying to betray him in the stories i made up lol.

[@JoseHernandez-xv2bt]

That’s pretty cool to hear, can you share more about your story?

[@evodolka]

Aww, that was so wholesome to read

[@StarMaker8442]

@@JoseHernandez-xv2bt it's been over a decade so i don't remember much. some things that lingered on were anchiceratops being the gruff second in command for the lightning dinosaurs and the earth dinosaurs being the joke faction with how dumb they were.

[@user-gm7hk3kh2h]

Although this isn't related to Dinosaur King, the Tarbosaurus in the Camp Cretaceous interactive game, Hidden Adventure, was literally the same size as Rexy, except it had a row of spikes, a roar that had clicking in it, and smaller arms

[@NiteMode-kx8wj]

Yeah, the design was really lacking and disappointing. I honestly prefer the Jurassic World Alive Tarbosaurus over the Camp Cretaceous one. Also, Jurassic World Evolution 2 did a good job of animating and coloring the JWCC Tarbosaurus to look more like a dinosaur and less like a 90's toddler toy.

[@strongman5243]

I loved this series as a kid

[@adejoharuna1005]

This might be a nitpick but saurophaganax could get to 13 meters long 10 meters is possible but a little undersized 15 meters is Insane

[@darkspace4530]

This show is the reason Acrocanthosaurus is one of my favorite dinos, even if it probably didnt have the quite as pronounced spine (which i mistakenly remembered being more sail like) its still a pretty cool dino, and its Alpha form is iconic! Cool vid overall, learned a lot! Mainly that ive been pronouncing giganotosaurus completely wrong...

[@user-hp7gn6gt7d]

You should start a dinosaur documentary show your the best dinosaur king KZbinr.

[@evodolka]

Definitely has the right voice for the job

[@Mike_The_Allosaurus]

Actually Saurophaganax is about 13-14 meters long according to newest estimates

[@juanchoguerrero9143]

All hail Terry the True Dinosaur King

[@fang609]

All the love tyrannosaurs get definetly showed here with how good the quality of them is, I remember having a soft spot for the Gorgo, Daspleto and Alioramus as a kid. I got to say tho lately the more I look at the design for the Tarbosaur the more it reminds me of the models used for Tyrannosaur and Albertosaurus in Prehistoric Park. Like Im not the only one seeing this right? As for the rest of the fire elemental dinosaurs they really do seem to be a mix bag, Saurophagonax & Torvosaurus continue to be awesome designs, Rajasaur not so much, and yeah it is kinda funny how the skull on the Giga has a siluet closer to modern recons than the ones at the time.

[@marcopohl4875]

That's the burning question here, isn't it?

[@evodolka]

My fave type, loved all the EXPLOSIVE fire moves, really made it stand out from usual depictions of fire powers in media These were also the guys that made me love Torvosaurus as it was the 1st dinosaur i got from the Arcade game

[@Stitch2316]

I think that current studies that support Saurophaganax as its own separate species from Allosaurus use the differences in how its bones notably its vertebrae to support it as the vertebrae of Sauro seem to be more robust and possibly indicate a creature that lived a similar lifestyle to tyrannosaurus rather then Allosaurus though I might be misremembering and might be entirely wrong lol

[@Stitch2316]

Forgot to add this in previously but I think it’s cool that the 3 species of dasp might resemble a direct evolutionary line though out the time the species where alive

[@dweebteambuilderjones7627]

@@Stitch2316 You're correct, the three species of _Daspletosaurus_ are generally agreed to be an anagenetic lineage similarly to _Triceratops_ . Regarding _Saurophaganax_ , there are now people arguing that it might be a very early carcharodontosaur.

[@Stitch2316]

@@dweebteambuilderjones7627 If that’s the case that’s so cool

[@maxleroux]

After I learned what the name "Saurophaganax" meant, I finally understood why this species was the last Dinosaur Card to collect in Season 1 of the anime. 🦖

[@NiteMode-kx8wj]

Hot take but I think it's even more cool then Tyrannosaurus

[@TheWarriorWithDucks]

A lot of these theropods are really cool in my opinion.

[@capitandino2370]

I've been loving the series so far and i have watched every single entry! I've been a dinosaur king fan since i was 7 and i have actually emulated the arcade game and played it and i just wanted some small things: 1. You didn't mention a really weird detail in the arcade and that's metricanthosaurus arm position where one is pronated meanwhile the other isn't for so odd reason? It weird as heck idk why (also eocarcharia is the only fire dino with non pronated wrist just wanted to mention that) 2. I feel like the confusion with wind and fire dinos really depends on when the dino realesed (raja being extremely early and eocarcharia being last fire dino i think?) or they're overall body structure if a theropod is bulky it's fire if it's not it's wind idk those two attributes are really shaky with eachother 3. I have access to every dk arcade model so i could check the abelisaurus arms that or i give you the models... Anyways i enjoy all of these videos hope your having a lovely day! (I refuse to believe dk's rex is good bro got that jp build also apperantly tarbo's skull is almost as wide as rex but don't quote me on that.)

[@daliborjovanovic510]

Pretty much any recent study to include Siamotyrannus did not recover it as a tyrannosaur but as some sort of allosaur and one placed it as a basal coelurosaur but not a tyrannosaur. Given its fragmentary remains, it should probably be written off as a nomen dubium, and we already have some confirmed large Early Cretaceous tyrannosaurs in Asia; Yutyrannus and Sinotyrannus.

[@HodgePodge7]

True, but not Tyrannosaurids specifically.

[@VScorpio-oc4ei]

Only 2 more elements left 🌊 🌈

[@crimsonhero1729]

It appears that the fire element was made for carnivores eight meters and above, although strange it still had Abelisaurus in it, maybe apex predators?

[@t-r-e-x452]

We do have more material of Saurophaganax now.

[@kylecollier7569]

Yeah if I remember correctly, the first Saurophaganax material was found in Oklahoma while the newest (but not described) material was found in New Mexico.

[@brycevo]

That Tyrannosaurus is so iconic. Kinda wish Dinosaur King would come back

[@kaii9306]

Another element down. Man, imagine the day when when people figure Saurophagnax out..... If it's possible of course. Nice research as always, looking foward to the rest. 🎉

[@terrytyrannosaurus7354]

Out of all the, "How Accurate are Dinosaur King's" series, this one has got to be my absolute favourite one ! I'm not just saying this because of only Terry but because Fire has been my absolute favourite element in general. 🦖🔥

[@SomeKindOfDodo]

I think the fire breathing part is not scientifically accurate. Only Parasaurolophus is allowed to do that

[@zacharystoddard6826]

To be fair, Seth did HELLA modify the saurophaganax card

[@landenriley8442]

Up next Secret, water, the sauropods, pterosaurs, and marine reptiles

[@takumidoutou4412]

Tarbosaurus is my fave I’d love to see more accurate representations in media

[@Tesod_]

OMG!! Awesome video Now the need the Water types and lastly Secret Type

[@gladiolus5377]

Also the move cards dinos.

[@evodolka]

​@@gladiolus5377I hope the move card exclusives get a video

[@gladiolus5377]

@@evodolka Same.

[@Cloak335]

I can’t wait to see the water element

[@tongatapu7325]

Eocharcharia is the only one with pronated wrists, which is odd. I think it also has lips?

[@NiteMode-kx8wj]

Maybe after reviewing every element you could put each species in a tier list based on paleoaccuracy.

[@FrostGhidorahEX]

Huh. I didn't know Giganotosaurus now has a shorter skull I'm so used to its longer skull that the now shorter skull almost feels wrong to me Then again I'm a big fan of Spinosaurus so I'm used to cretaures getting some odd changes Speaking of Spino. The water element vid is gonna be real interesting cause of him and his ever changing lifestyle

[@ukotoa1639]

Fun fact Terry is the only one of the named dinosaurs who doesn’t fight any of his own relatives Edit: relatives is a better word, wrong word choice on my part

[@MSKS-jl2qk]

He tied with Gina’s in the final episode.

[@unaizilla]

terry has fought against the black t. rex and gigas

[@ukotoa1639]

@@unaizilla the black T Rex doesn’t really count since it’s a experimental monster thing and the Gigas are carcarnodauarids Terry is a tyrannosaiurd

[@unaizilla]

​@@ukotoa1639 the black T. rex counts because it's literally a modified Tyrannosaurus, same with Gigas. i don't know where did you get the idea that Gigas is a carcharodontosaurid when he clearly uses the same Tyrannosaurus model and is named after the outdated species Manospondylus gigas, which is synonimous with Tyrannosaurus rex

[@charizardfan1017]

​@@ukotoa1639Gigas was a Tyrannosaurus, just an altered one Also it's spelled carcharodontosaurid and tyrannosaurid

[@thegamingcube9679]

Although more cartoony I'd like to see a video like this about fossil fighters

[@supercanadaeh9483]

Id love to see this format used on something like jurassic park builder

[@gregorytaylor240]

Would have been nice to see Giganotosaurus in The Dinosaur episode in Season 1 and 2

[@speedracer2008]

I like that the music used in this video is the same one used for the Badlands video in your Prehistoric Planet review. It fits, considering both videos involve fire.

[@evodolka]

This video has music?

[@speedracer2008]

@@evodolka If you listen, you can hear it

[@evodolka]

@@speedracer2008 oh snap 😲

[@pinkfridge6111]

While I prefer the earth dinosaurs, the fire dinosaur episodes were always awesome because they could either be pure fighting or a nice little story (daspleto and acro for example)

[@evodolka]

Earths are cool, and their moves are all great, love quake saber

[@VScorpio-oc4ei]

Secret dinosaurs will be his shortest video on dinosaur king

[@evodolka]

Unless he includes summonable dinosaurs too

[@VScorpio-oc4ei]

@@evodolka you mean move cards

[@evodolka]

@@VScorpio-oc4ei pretty much what i meant, yes

[@bujin_tycoon]

I'm really scared to watch reviewing Spinosaurus' accuracies. Being nerf down a lot from giant apex predator to small aquatic yacht dino. They really massacred my boy a lot. Love your Dinosaur King accuracy videos. Especially when you review the Lightning Dinosaur's accuracies.

[@dr.archaeopteryx5512]

"small"

[@mlgodzilla4206]

“Small” Lol, lmao even

[@masteroogway9487]

Small was still 50 ft long and 8 tonnes

[@dudotolivier6363]

Yep, this new and second species of Tyrannosaurus was published some months ago but there was 2 others species that were said to be discovered last year 2023 (which I don't right now remember the names). But these two proposes species were debunked quite rapidly and the paper describing them mocked by everyone. I think it would have still be nice to have this paper, two hypothetical species and event to have been mentionned in the video, as additional info about the genus as a whole.

[@HodgePodge7]

I actually did initially mention that paper in the script but decided to cut it due to the paper being mostly dismissed by Tyrannosaur experts.

[@dudotolivier6363]

@@HodgePodge7 Oh ok then. It's you who choose what to include or not in your videos, after all. And if you thought this paper wasn't relevant, so I believe you. But so, what about the one of this 2024 year about this new species of Tyrannosaurus which is mentionned in the video ? Valid or not ? What about it which have more weight and is actually supported than the two previous dismissed species ?

[@evodolka]

I think the 2 you are thinking about are T. regina and T. impirator Not sure were that's went now, think most people were on the fence on them

[@dweebteambuilderjones7627]

@@dudotolivier6363 _T. mcraeensis_ has a smaller chin, smaller & blunter teeth, & a shallower lower jaw, suggesting a much weaker bite, and the proportions of its jaw & crests differ enough from the material we have of _T. rex_ that individual variation is not as likely responsible for these differences (this was the biggest problem with Paul's paper, as it was found out that he couldn't prove that the "diagnostic traits" of his new species weren't simply individual variations). It's also considerably older.

[@dudotolivier6363]

@@dweebteambuilderjones7627 Good ! We have really 2 species of Tyrannosaurus ! How awesome is this !

[@christianbontempo8859]

Only two more elements to go. Plus the move card dinosaurs (which also include pterosaurs, two plesiosaurs and one ichthyosaur.)

[@aidanmccardell2226]

a fire video

[@snakeboi2.o]

Now I'll be waiting for the water types 😋

[@tm43977]

Dinosaur King's fire is ready and Owned by Seth/Nopis and Ursula (Usarapa) or "Old Lady" own these.

[@Ragnakaiguy]

dinosaur king is what you wanna be ya cmon cmon cmon and make your move dinosaur king is your destiny ya

[@SmashBrosAssemble]

I guess there’s two species of Tyrannosaurus in Dinosaur King; Tyrannosaurus rex & Tyrannosaurus gigas Since Gigas’ name is a nod to Manospondylus gigas, Tyrannosaurus’ original name.

[@evodolka]

I legit LOVE that reference, so much

[@dagoodboy6424]

Metri being that huge boggles my mind. It wasnt that big. Most the dinosaurs in this series are not porportioned correcty anyway.

[@TheGamingCeratosaurus]

Wasn't Saurophaganax recently changed from an Allosaur to a Carcharodont?

[@drewluczynski9609]

Fire has so many of my favorite dinosaurs from the anime. Terry, Saurophaganax (Torch) Carcharodontosaurus (Coal) Acrocanthosaurus (Beta/Pyro), Torvosaurus (Killer)

[@danielcain8136]

Cool video again although I find it odd again that you didn't mention Doyouthinkhesaurus rex.

[@meranzgeo8030]

Please I want the water element

[@Silladrive]

Giganotosaurus is best dinosaur

[@SPRINK_GABY]

😂 It's Mapusaurus in 2024

[@DenteraxPlays]

Bro am I the only one that noticed that in the miasura episode max was being sexist and said that house work is for girls anyway

[@dweebteambuilderjones7627]

That's not the only instance of sexism in Dinosaur King, but it's yet another point against it imo.

[@maozilla9149]

you missed Manospondylus gigas the invalid name

[@evodolka]

Gigas is named after it, so technically it was included

[@maozilla9149]

@@evodolka right

[@evodolka]

@@maozilla9149 it's a super cute reference the other 2 spectral share, I love it Maximus I think was the name Triceratops had back when we thought it was a MASSIVE Bison (if I remember) And Armatus is named after a dubious stegosaurus species, think it's now classed as Ungulatus now

[@maozilla9149]

@@evodolka right that to

[@dweebteambuilderjones7627]

@@evodolka _S. armatus_ got thrown out entirely, _S. ungulatus_ was already a separate thing.

[@JaredQueiroz]

dont click it, dont click it, dont cliDAMMIT I HATE MY BRAIN

[@Intrusion498]

T rex actually lived 68-66 mya Wikipedia got it wrong

[@dweebteambuilderjones7627]

That's _T. rex_ specifically. The entire _genus Tyrannosaurus_ lived ~73-66mya when you include _T. mcraeensis_ .

[@Intrusion498]

​@@dweebteambuilderjones7627only the species t rex was known at the time of anime I'm just sayin

[@lovepeople777]

Pleeeeeaaaase stop ms pronounceing "abeli" 😭😭😭😭

[@evodolka]

It's pronounced "A-belly" right?