How Adolf Hitler Became Leader of the Nazi Party

[@TiptronicSS]

This is very interesting stuff, a lot of details usually never mentioned, but actually pretty important. Like the fact parties had their own 'armies' shows how violence was a part of Germany. And Hitler saying 'fear' and terror is essential for obedience right from the start and not gradually as one would expect.

[@petemoro4938]

Well done to the Great War team on the continued, very detailed, documentaries. I just signed up for the Curiosity Stream / Nebula bundle!

[@HeyGuy4321]

Nebulizer

[@Warmaster_24]

I love this channel way to much and many years since the start of the Great War. Who else has been here just as long ?

[@andrewstallings6548]

Been watching since 2016 at least. Back when Indy was the face. I’ve gotten used to Jesse and appreciate his intensity level. I was very skeptical at first but that’s changed very much since they truly have delved deep into the inter war…you know…the REALLY important stuff that doesn’t involve combat footage?

[@JuanVilorio]

I've been here since 2016 when I was writing my capstone in Russia involvement of WW1

[@andrewstallings6548]

@@JuanVilorio Does your dissertation still hold weight? I’d love to read it. I’m sure it’s amazing.

[@Betegfos]

6 years and counting. I miss Indy though.

[@NellaCuriosity]

I've been watching and subscribed since the very beginning too.

[@clazy8]

Fantastic video! Detailed, clear, concise, and compelling. I was sorry when it ended.

[@jessealexander2695]

Thanks!

[@ptfodity]

The people who think Hitler would've just ignored the issues of Germany and become some painter instead, don't know him at all.

[@someguy7723]

People talk about what would have happend if he had been killed in the war. I wonder what about the men that died in the war that could have worse than hitler

[@RavusNox-z5i]

If it weren't Hitler it would have been someone else, maybe Germany would even have its own Stalin and KPD (communist party) running Germany and liquidating millions. Politics were that extreme at the time. NSDAP was only real counter to KPD which was led directly from Moscow and got enormous amount of support from working class.

[@lucascoval828]

@@someguy7723 Chilling thought.

[@erict.watson2460]

@@lucascoval828 Why? a) it's a hypothetical question b) they're dead

[@donnyboon2896]

@@erict.watson2460 Being a hypothetical thought about dead soldiers can still cause chills. Are you human?

[@KapnKrowe]

For a second, I thought this had become the World War 2 channel with the thumbnail. Nice video

[@andrewstallings6548]

Fun fact…The World War Two Channel started here. That’s why it looks familiar.

[@secretbaguette]

Just you wait 16 years

[@micahistory]

same

[@andrewstallings6548]

@Bryan go to the “Info” tab about this channel. Then go all the way back to the very first videos ever posted under this account. Enjoy!

[@Alex-fv2qs]

@Bryan Indy Neidell, the first host of The Great War has his own channel on the second world war

[@DuranmanX]

And to think he could have been a painter

[@sambeck2510]

His paintings weren't even bad tbh, they just weren't in the trending style of the time. They're not in the trending styles of today either - but as far as the style he painted in, he wasn't a bad painter.

[@tonymalony4382]

@@sambeck2510 his paintings were not pornografic enuff for the time.

[@dostoievskyiii6251]

@@sambeck2510 is stile was really conservative (in an art sence) and he only drawed patriotic or religous imagery, wichh is like going to art svhool now a days and only knowing how to draw anime. Is ideas of art were also very weird, he tought of art has greek statues, mona lisas, and other classical style pieces, wich was reflected in is regime when he ordered the burn and destruction of various pieces of art he considered "degenerate" (basically anything he personally didnt like)

[@evanr.3129]

Proud Boys=SA in modern day.

[@timothyo718]

@@Dmitry_Medvedev no Proud Boy would ever identify as a liberal. Please. SA is the perfect comparison.

[@evanswinford7165]

3:29 The size of the chain wheel on that bike! You could go fast but when you came to a hill you were in trouble.

[@alexwendler5479]

Im so used -and even waiting- the final joke of it being the only youtube channel, that this time caught me unaware but I fully support that tradition.

[@micahistory]

it's interesting to see how this party originated and began its rise to power

[@zsmarine0831]

It always shocking how no one took their rhetoric seriously due to their small numbers. Then before the population knew it these people were in charge.

[@micahistory]

@@zsmarine0831 they were voted in though

[@williammunny9916]

Possible adverse reactions shown in the FDA’s “working list” include: Guillain-Barré syndrome Acute disseminated encephaloymelitis (“Characterized by a brief but widespread attack of inflammation in the brain and spinal cord that damages myelin - the protective covering of nerve fibers,” according to NIH.) Transverse myelitis Encephalitis/myelitis/encephalomyelitis/meningoencephalitis/meningitis/encepholaphathy Convulsions/seizures Stroke Narcolepsy and cataplexy Anaphlyaxis Acute myocardial infarction Myocarditis/pericarditis Autoimmune disease Deaths Pregnancy and birth outcomes Other acute demyelinating diseases Non-anaphylactic allergic reactions Thrombocytopenia Disseminated intravascular coagulation Venous thromboembolism Arthritis and arthralgia/joint pain Kawasaki disease Vaccine enhanced disease The list also notes “Multisystem Inflammatory Syndrome in Children” as one possible outcome following vaccination. While adverse events were generally discussed throughout the meeting, the slide’s contents were not covered in-depth. The meeting came as the FDA was considering granting emergency use authorization to Pfizer and Biontech’s experimental jab. ..

[@Julianna.Domina]

@@williammunny9916 hey, guess what, the vaccines have been out for months, millions of people have them, and there's no widespread serious side effects. Boohoo. Go spew your dangerous lies somewhere else.

[@K4inan]

@@williammunny9916 I took pfizer and it was harmless... same thing for 50 of my coworkers. Vaccines are not harmful.

[@tolacollier9140]

Could you please post the primary source reference or references for Organization Consul's supply of arms to the Irish Republican Army I am an Irish Historian and always interested in wider European links especially for IRA GHQ arms procurement in the years 1913 to 1923, by the way congratulations on another excellent video.

[@jonkline709]

I completely enjoy your videos. Great job

[@bjorntorlarsson]

This is a very important topic, the domestic politics of Germany 100 years ago. I hope that you will be able to keep covering this subject throughout this decade!

[@RavusNox-z5i]

And nothing has really changed. The arguments of both Hitler, the communists, and the centrists, are quasi-identical today. Only the power has shifted to various camps.

[@thepsychicspoon5984]

Wow. It just felt like yesterday, we saw the end of the great war and we are already starting the road to the second one. If I feel like this from a TV show, imagine the feeling of the people that lived it. Its no wonder many countries tried to avoid the second one at all cost.

[@sambeck2510]

Ah but my friend, the first step on the road to the second is the last step of the first.

[@WhiteBloggerBlackSpecs]

Can we take a moment to appreciate how much detail this video goes into?

[@TrickiVicBB71]

Can't believe I missed this in my feed three days ago. Now to sit and listen

[@spiffygonzales5160]

You should do a video on Wilhelm IIs relation with Hitler. Its interesting because they were less than friends to say the least.

[@thesmilinggun-knight9646]

A Monarch and a socialist not getting along I’m shocked lol.

[@paigetomkinson1137]

@@thesmilinggun-knight9646 Nobody mentioned Stalin.

[@johnlittle2406]

Willhelm and Adolf were mustash rivals

[@spiffygonzales5160]

@@johnlittle2406 Rivals? Nah man. Willhelm had a STACHE, Hitler had a square.

[@wyatttyson7737]

@@paigetomkinson1137 Hitler was a self described Socialist, demanded his political party keep the name of "National Socialist," and used his political power to put private companies in the hands of his political allies and supporters. Hitler was a Left Wing Socialist period.

[@rabihrac]

I never knew about the political start of Adolf Hitler. Very interesting episode. Thank you TGW

[@markobavdek9450]

7:23 this quote explains so much future happening....

[@RazorRamon0331]

Amazing presentation of facts and chronology of events

[@dannyc.jewell8788]

This is the real deal , this is detail and insight , the puzzel fit's together

[@micahistory]

wow it's crazy that only 3 years later and hitler is already being mentioned

[@micahistory]

@@ntx.2731 bruh

[@williammunny9916]

Possible adverse reactions shown in the FDA’s “working list” include: Guillain-Barré syndrome Acute disseminated encephaloymelitis (“Characterized by a brief but widespread attack of inflammation in the brain and spinal cord that damages myelin - the protective covering of nerve fibers,” according to NIH.) Transverse myelitis Encephalitis/myelitis/encephalomyelitis/meningoencephalitis/meningitis/encepholaphathy Convulsions/seizures Stroke Narcolepsy and cataplexy Anaphlyaxis Acute myocardial infarction Myocarditis/pericarditis Autoimmune disease Deaths Pregnancy and birth outcomes Other acute demyelinating diseases Non-anaphylactic allergic reactions Thrombocytopenia Disseminated intravascular coagulation Venous thromboembolism Arthritis and arthralgia/joint pain Kawasaki disease Vaccine enhanced disease The list also notes “Multisystem Inflammatory Syndrome in Children” as one possible outcome following vaccination. While adverse events were generally discussed throughout the meeting, the slide’s contents were not covered in-depth. The meeting came as the FDA was considering granting emergency use authorization to Pfizer and Biontech’s experimental jab. ..

[@Game_Hero]

He already was mentionned before I think.

[@micahistory]

@@Game_Hero yeah but not in much detail

[@bkilg2509]

Lest we forget

[@SStarLaw]

Will u guys cover the prestes column and the tenentist movement in brazil?

[@TheGreatWar]

we want to cover some south american topics. unfortunately the archives we use don't feature many photos or film reels from the time. Which makes it difficult to impossible for us.

[@theoutlook55]

@@TheGreatWar what about drawings of some sort?

[@christianstahl4099]

Wie immer eine gut recherchierte, sachliche und trotzdem spannende Darstellung - was für ein Kontrast zum deutschen Umerziehungsfernsehen mit seinen Hilfshistorikern… Weiter so!

[@mistermagoo8685]

“People want a healthy dose of terror.. why are you blathering away about cruelty and suffering…” ~Adolf Hitler That’s quote is an obsoletely terrifying peak into the mind of a tyrant and madman.

[@someguy7723]

But honestly.. is it wrong? People love crualty they can control. It speak to their caveman brain. Just look at the bloodthirsty mob on twitter than does nothing but dream about destroying peoples life.

[@cezarstefanseghjucan]

Hitler was an idiot who appealed to idiots. It doesn't take a genius to understand that Nazism isn't the way to grow and to thrive in a modern state.

[@cezarstefanseghjucan]

@@someguy7723 They must be dismantled by scathing critique.

[@thefaithful5218]

@@cezarstefanseghjucan Germany was one of the most efficient modern states with what it achieved in a short timeframe what you on about

[@RavusNox-z5i]

If you look at the quote emotionally, then yes. However it's an accurate description of the human psyche. People respect strength and ruthlessness, it's just a fact that still applies in daily politics.

[@petersutcliffe4927]

Still loving those artillery models on the shelf behind you bro! As a Cannon Crewmember myself, I loves me some big guns!

[@gainzbreh6834]

I'm so excited for 2039

[@Stugots94]

First we rise in 2033 and then we take back our countries in 2039.

[@Willy_Tepes]

@@Stugots94 33 is a number I am seeing with extraordinary regularity these days. It is not a coincidence.

[@schmurble2254]

@@Stugots94 and then you get beaten to pulp in ‘45?

[@strickersniper7909]

2091 will be fun

[@Stugots94]

@@schmurble2254 Not this time.

[@thehistoryfella]

Yet another great video, thanks.

[@altinmares8363]

If you love history you can watch videos at channel "Kings and Generals"

[@brokenbridge6316]

Great video. And nicely informative.

[@MM22966]

I spit coke onto my keyboard when Jesse ended with "no Hitler jokes". Straight man, straight face!

[@johnlittle2406]

Now ,lets get serious, you all know that a German joke is no laughing matter,

[@brianoneil9662]

When things started to accelerate towards another war. And Germany already felt apocalyptic.

[@williammunny9916]

Possible adverse reactions shown in the FDA’s “working list” include: Guillain-Barré syndrome Acute disseminated encephaloymelitis (“Characterized by a brief but widespread attack of inflammation in the brain and spinal cord that damages myelin - the protective covering of nerve fibers,” according to NIH.) Transverse myelitis Encephalitis/myelitis/encephalomyelitis/meningoencephalitis/meningitis/encepholaphathy Convulsions/seizures Stroke Narcolepsy and cataplexy Anaphlyaxis Acute myocardial infarction Myocarditis/pericarditis Autoimmune disease Deaths Pregnancy and birth outcomes Other acute demyelinating diseases Non-anaphylactic allergic reactions Thrombocytopenia Disseminated intravascular coagulation Venous thromboembolism Arthritis and arthralgia/joint pain Kawasaki disease Vaccine enhanced disease The list also notes “Multisystem Inflammatory Syndrome in Children” as one possible outcome following vaccination. While adverse events were generally discussed throughout the meeting, the slide’s contents were not covered in-depth. The meeting came as the FDA was considering granting emergency use authorization to Pfizer and Biontech’s experimental jab. ..

[@HeyGuy4321]

Who was the one dissenting voice of the 553 out of 554 ? I gotta know. Hes important

[@mojewjewjew4420]

Not really,he was probably quietly executed.

[@tathemrelag3123]

If I had to guess, I'd say it was probably Drexler.

[@flask0390]

The world's most famous Charlie Chaplin imitator takes central stage.

[@varana]

@Dan2314 Wonderluck ---> the joke ----> ----- your head ----

[@justinweber4977]

I think we can all agree on one thing, for his policies: that was one dapper mustache.

[@sean.durham999]

@@justinweber4977 Das ist Arian mustache.

[@johnlittle2406]

Adolf did a great stand up comedy routine at the beer hall .Itsa rough crowd to please ,with or without a comedy mustash Heil myself

[@psour33]

Finally, greeting the guy in the Vienna arts school would have been a great idea.

[@AMNG1994]

I'm currently reading 1924: The Year That Made Adolf Hitler on a PHYSICAL BOOK and so far KZbin has suggested dozens of videos on Hitler. To the CIA agent tasked to snoop on me, there's a jar of salsa on my fridge and nachos on my cupboard. Feel free to help yourself.

[@oldesertguy9616]

Well done, Jesse.

[@jessealexander2695]

Thanks!

[@flashgordon6670]

2:18 Love the photo with Hitler in and his gang, he was always the life and soul of the party! 🤣

[@ChinDulles]

They where doing time I'm prison when that picture was taken..obviously pretty well since they have musical instruments and luxuries

[@Nmax]

😂 haha

[@sambeck2510]

It's funny that Hit ler said a "system" approved way forward as unavailable and violent revolution as the path forward, but their violent revolution (the beer hall putsch) totally failed and working the "system" (forming an coalition government with a much larger party to achieve a majority, then pushing for "security" powers after the Reichstag fire) worked. It's also funny how Hit lers pictures kinda look like a video game character; the older he gets, the longer his hair gets and the fuller his facial hair.

[@cezarstefanseghjucan]

Funny how a hypochondriac fantasizes about violence onto others where he couldn't hold his own against most people. But then again, this is a common theme of weak people.

[@georgerrust4087]

Jesse...your the Best!

[@stevejauncey1461]

Anyone else spot Himmler in the second truck giving out let's? He's wearing a leather jacket and cap and wearing glasses.

[@areasevenpro]

This video enraged Adolf's father, who punished him severely.

[@pansas83]

That was a good video 😆

[@HistoryOfRevolutions]

Marcel Proust once wrote: "Unkindness is inspired by hatred, anger fuels it into action in which there is no great joy; it would take sadism to turn it into something pleasurable; unkind people imagine themselves to be inflicting pain on someone equally unkind"

[@Legenda-hm4gp]

FINALLY A NEW VIDEO!!!!!😁

[@UVtec]

Wow, I never knew Hitler actually left the party (for a moment)! He should have tried another art school instead.

[@RavusNox-z5i]

Art school was no longer something he cared about after living through WW1. He came out of this changed.

[@paigetomkinson1137]

He didn't get in, twice, to the school in Vienna because he didn't have quite enough skill, and had no originality. A new school wasn't going to change that.

[@dimitrikusnetsov8731]

And so begins a decades long story arc…

[@aslanlovett4059]

Been waiting for this. At least it's not getting shadow banned like the excellent show Glory & Defeat.

[@georgetrowe8669]

great video

[@allancarey2604]

I shouldn’t be surprised just how much modern politics reflects the rhetoric mentioned here…but it’s still chilling

[@joeschmoe435]

Modern politics on both sides renounce almost everything mentioned here. It's Communism that is blatantly emulated today.

[@Esau2507]

After all the suffering and chaos and slaughter of The Great War is bizarre to witness how in freaking 1921 the seeds for the new world war are planted. This makes me realizes how "lucky" were the European people that the new world war started 20 years later and not sooner.

[@TheKeyser94]

Not that the French and the British help to grow resentment in the German People, during one of the worst winters in the post war, Germany was still suffering the effects of the economic policies of the Treaty of Versailles, but Frances wanted more, wanted German coal, so they made demilitarise zone in the border and take the coal directly from the mines, the government try to protest organising a strike, but the French simply replace the workers, they take all the coal meanwhile men, woman and children, were starving and dying of cold, the situation only got worse when a French officer was killed what caused that the French killed some civilians, that only grow the resentment that the Germans had against the French.

[@neiloflongbeck5705]

Even though you had advertising during this episode? Saw an advert for holidays in Spain.

[@thomasbaagaard]

They have had hundreds of videos demonetized in the past.

[@neiloflongbeck5705]

@@thomasbaagaard and the last few all had adverts... Laws and rules change and if you want to survive you have to follow such changes or you go under.

[@kaiserreich2980]

I think that a whole video about marinebrigade ehrhardt would be nice.

[@ZmannR2]

Ooooohh now it’s getting juicy!!

[@HD-np7eb]

And we go...

[@rs-df7qy]

How has this video lasted

[@Rcloudy100]

Can you make another video about after Hitler became a fuhrer to the death of Hitler pls? I really like your videos

[@yorick6035]

11:14 that flyer, did it only contain text or were there caricatures depicting Hitler as Jew?

[@princessolmeca2933]

I love that picture of Rudolf Hess and the NSDAP members because Hess looks like Ernie from freaking Sesame Street. XD

[@Randomname8383]

Such a sad period to learn about. So many mistakes and thoughts of what could have been...

[@redwater4778]

Should never have invaded Russia.

[@tactknightgaming2066]

@@redwater4778 USA should have never allied with the USSR. A communist country helping another.

[@redwater4778]

@@tactknightgaming2066 Some allies the USA turned out to be. No sooner had the war ended that the USA started the cold war. The British too ended up losing all their colonies to the capitalist USA.

[@JewishMcFly-pg3mc]

Honestly man nothing would've changed every losing country after ww1 was legit fucked most of them were fucked until actual freedom in the 90s. Fighting off nationalists fascists and communists lol

[@JewishMcFly-pg3mc]

@@Dmitry_Medvedev nationalists are fine. But what I'm saying is in that time period alot of other countries in the eastern area of Europe were also fighting them off. Im Irish Hungarian so I really don't see a problem with those two areas supporting that but other places had different ways of seeing government my friend

[@tonymalony4382]

The audio kept cutting out wonder why?

[@presidentlouis-napoleonbon8889]

Wow, Jesse is very busy. Doing a double project.

[@jessealexander2695]

I couldn't turn down the opportunity to tell your story. :)

[@ShubhamMishrabro]

@@jessealexander2695 jesse have you done Waziristan campaign of 1919-1920. Please guys if you haven't I want you to do

[@jessealexander2695]

@@ShubhamMishrabro We did it in one of our older videos, have a look.

[@ShubhamMishrabro]

@@jessealexander2695 thank you sir I will check

[@kapsi]

Is this show going until they cover year 2014?

[@farstar1165]

Wheres the playlist? Dissapeared on me

[@whatonearth9809]

Did the same for me, thought the channel had been deleted 😬 only got 3 months of the war left to get through 😂

[@krisfrederick5001]

I can't get the image of SA Brown Shirts doing cartwheels down the streets out of my mind, not as intimidating...14:21

[@1337fraggzb00N]

Art School:"We do not really like your portfolio." Young painter:"BRACHENZRÄDELSTELTZ!"

[@DetectivThomas]

It's a Canon event

[@squireob]

This seems so familiar, for some reason.

[@veritasetlibertas7889]

Excellent!

[@jpheitman1]

13:06 : "Hitler would reveal conspiracies against the German people, and knew who their true enemies really were." Me, an American: "Hey, I've heard that one before."

[@ShubhamMishrabro]

🤣🤣🤣

[@ShubhamMishrabro]

Many tried to fight it by going to white House too

[@yeahyuh123]

I wish they did something similar to OOTT sometimes.

[@Willy_Tepes]

10:26 Reasonable demands :)

[@mausklick1635]

And its happening again

[@siyacer]

Impressive

[@cypidez]

imagine how life could've been so much different and less chaotic at the time had he decided to become a painter

[@ahmadmorsy1561]

Would have been another Hitler, it wasn't about the person.

[@ahmadmorsy1561]

Silly comment

[@notthefbi7932]

Militant gymnastics 😬

[@donnyboon2896]

I never knew Hitler quit. Wow.

[@kingmichealthefirstofroman2278]

Can you do a review of Babylon berlin?

[@stuartmcnaughton1495]

The book or the TV series? They are very different.

[@kingmichealthefirstofroman2278]

@@stuartmcnaughton1495 both

[@ahmadmorsy1561]

Stunning Series.

[@LawrenceMeisel]

Hitler Joke: Say what you want about Hitler but "He did kill Hitler". 😱😂

[@wafflyfox7550]

Very interesting...

[@hamzabel5782]

Please add subtitles

[@mikec6935]

huge fan

[@aimannaurzova2828]

Please, speak about war in Irak and Syria. Who started that war and why?

[@MM22966]

Herr Essser looks like he could play Hitler in Hollywood.

[@TerenaTCloud]

There’s no way those skulls were on tanks.

[@flyingcow4194]

Weren’t they just the DAP in 1921? Or had they already become the NSDAP

[@varana]

They changed their name to NSDAP in February 1920.

[@HeyGuy4321]

Antonio Drexler has some nice shorts

[@ShubhamMishrabro]

So till which year you will continue making videos

[@marks_sparks1]

Hopefully till 1933. Once Hitler becomes the Fuhrer following Hindenburgs death, the path to the next war is assured from then onwards and the ultimate conclusion of the Great War.

[@ShubhamMishrabro]

@@marks_sparks1 in description they wrote 1923

[@marks_sparks1]

@@ShubhamMishrabro 1923 that's fair - the civil wars and the majority of the new Eastern European borders had been sorted by then.

[@superyamky]

*It happend exactly 100 Years ago*

[@EdinProfa]

Again video from home?

[@MisterOcclusion]

4:53 On the policy of citizens rights to arms. oh the bitter irony....

[@trey6892]

Why? He never restricted firearms from* the German people. The irony you are talking about should be what’s happening in the usa. Go get your double barrel shotgun to defend your family. Shoot it in the sky like your president said. It’ll work trust me

[@dittmannrudolfrohr2149]

10:47 Eternal.

[@JamesHolmez]

In another life, Adolf was a famous artist known for his paintings of the Great War.

[@MegaMinny123]

I know this isn't about war but you guys possibly do an ep on Chernobyl? It is a big part of history.

[@HeyGuy4321]

9:16 welp... he prolly ended up dead after that one

[@fireonmytarget8937]

hopefully

[@maddyg3208]

Someone got the better of Hitler in a shouting match??? 😎 What did he go on to do?

[@WhiteBloggerBlackSpecs]

Finally some nuance to some of history's worst dictators

[@PoboyMusic]

If you go by Jewish hollywood, then yeah he's the worst.

[@WhiteBloggerBlackSpecs]

@@PoboyMusic found the anti-Semite

[@petergray7576]

On the same day in 1921 that Hitler was elected Fuhrer of the NSDAP, half a world away in Washington DC a think-tank called the Council of Foreign Relations opened its figurative doors. The CFR would greatly influence US foreign policy during the 1930s largely because of Hitler, arguing that the only way to secure democracy and liberty in the face of such a threat was for the USA to undertake its own imperial project of military domination.

[@LiamCameron77]

Could you provide a source for that?

[@petergray7576]

Nothing online. Lawrence Shoup's book Imperial Brain Trust is my source.

[@rohiths9099]

It was a British based lobby group. ALONG with The World Jewish Congress

[@satevo462]

Hitler/Escobar.... Esocbar was always the wrong color, but the same kind of man.

[@agreeneish]

He was a forward thinker .. He had a long term plan ..

[@AYVYN]

I received a Hugo Boss advertisement.

[@70galaxie]

suggest full name change "A Century Ago", g5, old guy

[@jliller]

Surrendering arms is the first step toward enslavement? Where have I heard that before...