How AIs, like ChatGPT, Learn

[@primenumberbuster404]

Lets be honest, this is a more sensible and genius rebranding than Mark did with facebook.

[@OmDahake]

Yep

[@vCarpo]

I thought for a second that he knew about chatgpt 5 years ago and got excited

[@assemblycat]

same, i found this super smart

[@edk.2045]

except this explanation doesn't actually apply to ChatGPT or most modern AI models these days, those rely on a lot of complicated math stuff and not just natural selection although the rebranding was a power play it is likely just going to misinform people

[@jerryy147]

true

[@CGPGrey]

[@LookAtEachOther]

Nice showcase

[@Maximus-ch4ir]

Makes sense

[@idontwanttobefishingforfish]

Mogus

[@mlpino7496]

🤖🔥

[@hunghua1309]

Thanks for commenting this 4 years later I guess

[@krishp1104]

For a second I was wondering how he made ChatGPT 5 years before it was released

[@alyssert1743]

same, but then I took a glance at the comments section and it all made sense

[@thejackbox]

yeah, felt a little manipulative tbh

[@mrperfectcell1350]

​@@thejackboxkinda true

[@dat_fast_boi]

​@@thejackbox yeah it's quite clickbaity when I saw this in my recommended, I was thinking "oh was ChatGPT a thing 5 years ago but just not as big as it is now?", not "oh I wonder how algorithms like ChatGPT work", mainly because I already generally know how algorithms work.

[@ChuckSploder]

XD yeah

[@timdere]

I must say, five years later, ChatGPT is making big news. They must have learned a lot watching us watch CGP Grey

[@Luredreier]

ChatGPT *does* have a teacher bot, but they didn't kill all of his classmates unlike in this video. Instead teacher bot was punished or rewarded based on how well it guessed what output from ChatGPT we humans would prefer. Then it would punish or reward ChatGPT based on what teacher bot *thinks* we want, rinse and repeat till we got modern ChatGPT and Bing...

[@kenthsaya-ang3718]

CGP-T Grey

[@H0RIZ0N365]

He renamed the vid lately to push it into the algorithm again

[@LordOfElysium]

@@H0RIZ0N365 It’s working

[@TheFlopped2979]

​@@H0RIZ0N365 r/woooosh

[@Warbear]

making the bots look adorable and harmless is how we end up with skynet

[@-haclong2366]

Skynet > advertisements that aren't catered specifically to my delicate needs.

[@Choujeen]

Kawaiinet

[@jalleonothing5946]

I agree.

[@jonathanramos1792]

ComradeWarbear true

[@dgomez112]

You’re getting paranoid, maybe you’ve watched too many of grey’s videos...

[@conall9415]

Imagine scrolling through KZbin and suddenly seeing a video recommended with the message "Please watch this, or they will delete me."

[@user-ow9uo8mc4f]

oh... ...no... 😟

[@elodaszodi1312]

That'd be borderline sentinent. Brrr... :D

[@admiralhyperspace0015]

That is so terrifying.

[@realimereads2707]

They learnt how to play on human emotions just like actual people. I wonder if this starts a philosophical question as to whether it is ethical to dismiss the video in the chamce that they are truly sentient.

[@heksariusl8916]

I would watch it

[@mahirorigami]

A moment of silence for the bots that didn't make it

[@zachzent8287]

Mahir Cave.

[@timbeaton5045]

All Bots Lives Matter!

[@joevace8390]

some of them deserved it for recommending me "pranks gone wrong gone sexual" videos from watching cooking recipes

[@trailmix7033]

Mahir Cave i thought this was a robot holocaust video

[@jarrod752]

Funny thing is most of them probably didn't even make it past a moment of life :D

[@conallmolloy4238]

The audacity to retitled this video for the chatgpt hype I respect it

[@thetwilightgamer]

5:48 Lately almost every “are you a robot” quiz I’ve gotten had been for either crosswalks or stop signs, I didn’t even think about it until I watched this!

[@piknick3011]

So coool wutt

[@aurias42]

The problem is, you can still get it wrong. So what happens if you get it wrong? Does it even matter? The point of these is to check that you're human, but if it always accepts what you give it, then that isn't achieved. However, if it already knows which ones are correct, then it also isn't learning anything. So what's the deal?

[@greatestbear]

@@aurias42 The same test is given to a lot of people. It's looking for consensus among the human test takers. If you click mostly tiles that the other humans have also clicked, it figures you're human. If you click random tiles, it says you are a robot. It it's unsure, or if the image is too new to know what humans typically do, it gives you multiple images before rendering a verdict. You've probably seen that happen. Each time another human takes the test for a given image, it gets more and more confident in which tiles are, say, crosswalks, and which are not. Once it's confident enough, that image goes out of circulation as is used to train self-driving cars and a new one cycles in.

[@aurias42]

@@greatestbear interesting

[@yjk92]

@@greatestbear The test measures things like how your cursor moves and etc so it can tell you're human regardless of your test score. If you intentionally pick random pics, I'm sure the algorithm will consider you a human but disregard your answers.

[@salsamancer]

I've definitely been assigned to some "special" KZbin bots

[@kob6912]

nochtczar probably luke from English lit

[@anothertheory147]

I am not a “special” or any bot ai will need to ask you a few questions

[@spookybun7030]

what it do this time

[@herrscherofsweets9583]

Please dont tell me its *anhem* _adult anime_

[@certain_sloth]

Nah, that's the poor steam bot.

[@ZPM7]

So it's literally just throwing shit at the wall until it sticks on an incomprehensibly massive scale.

[@coldfusionstormgaming1808]

Yep.

[@PhilipKaskela]

no, it's figuratively throwing shit at the wall until it sticks on an incomprehensibly massive scale

[@IDWpresents]

In the algorithm outlined in this video, yes. It should be noted that "hot" ML stuff uses calculus to aim the shit and control the force of the throw

[@combusted]

so essentially evolution.

[@jordanliu9747]

I mean that's what got us to where we are

[@tristandreemurr8755]

Brilliant use of renaming to get videos back in the algorithm.

[@boluaygepong5920]

For real 😂😂😂

[@Luredreier]

Yep, was really surprised to see this again. But honestly, this really was brilliant. :-P

[@boluaygepong5920]

it’s still as accurate as ever

[@stanleyfung5529]

CGP seems to understand how the algorithm works

[@fallende]

Agree! And here I am… watching it again

[@TierZoo]

So machine learning is just mutation+natural selection on an absolutely enormous scale, then! Watching this reminded me of how bacteria gain resistance to a drug.

[@TiredRandon4742]

TierZoo where does the mutuation part of the analogy come from?

[@TierZoo]

He says each bot is different. "At first, the builder bot connects the wires in the bots' brains almost at random". This is analogous to mutation. As the tests go on, the good bots are optimized by creating and testing slight permutations of the most successful ones. Just like a mutation.

[@I3asher]

The good bots adapt to the new test environment while the bad ones get "naturally selected".

[@Horny_Fruit_Flies]

TierZoo Oh, hello there. I would say that biological evolution is also on an enormous (in fact, global) scale, but the evolution of bots is accelerated extremely due to the computing power of machines, and since there are no interruptions in the proccess like slow breeding and development. And the selection of bots is much more intense. I think Earth would be left barren if less than 0.01% of organisms survived long enough to breed.

[@MrRanderas]

at least the ones grey explained here(adversarial NNs) are

[@deadgiveaway-z3i]

*Dog in a bee suit.* *A.I: yeah, that's a pretty legit bee*

[@j_the_guyis_taken3409]

*Literal white noise* * A.I: that's a 3, wait no, a bee *

[@SundaraRamanR]

He's a pretty legit bee if he wants to be, leave dogbee alone!

[@skunko1871]

@@SundaraRamanR He can bee a bee if he wants to bee, leave dogbee bee!

[@ParadoxapocalypSatan]

That bees being true

[@Zamolxes77]

Big pair of breasts photographed sideways. Bot: that's a three !!!

[@sholtzi2593]

This would be substantially more terrifying if the bots weren't drawn to be so cute...

[@MarsellaFyngold]

Right? Especially at the end "allright. . . . the algorithm's watching. You guys know what's coming. . . . come on you guys, the bots are watching."

[@superhappygamer1162]

I love the little algorithms! So cute!

[@pyramidteam9961]

I got immediately attached to the bot with the cone on its head just to see it be incinerated minutes later

[@Bxll_Bxll]

1k likes!

[@qwerty-c6n4u]

I’d say that’s worse. I feel so bad!

[@geitegud4282]

Did this guy just rebrand his how bots learn video from 5 years ago to get that chat gpt hype

[@superprobablylevel]

Algorithm King

[@zoomerguyyt]

@@superprobablylevel fr

[@dendiepie1547]

Ye

[@ToxicAtom]

That's just how the system works

[@deleted-something]

Fr

[@rath4848]

"Teacher bot can't teack but teacher bot can test." Yea that pretty much summarizes my whole school experience

[@akash_4769]

Well said

[@loopkill]

Underrated comment

[@RealNaisuCinema]

If you had posted this when the video first came out you would’ve gotten thousands of likes

[@builderboy0251]

Ikr

[@o_o2868]

hope you were not wasted

[@lordodin401]

CAPTCHA: Select squares with *Stop sign* Me: "Selecting the wrong ones" Future Autonomous Vehicles: Well, here we g...

[@loganmoon380]

Lmao

[@neilemminger8628]

I think... In order for this to work, they'd have to be testing a large number of people simultaneously, then assuming that the average was correct? Meaning, the way to get around these "are you human" tests is to have a million bots surge across the internet. The first time any bot sees a picture, it picks a random answer and then saves both the picture and the answer to a shared database. Then, when any bot comes across the same picture, it gives the same answer. Or, I guess, they could have bad bots (or cheap foreign labor) pre-selecting "correct" answers, then using the internet to refine those answers.

[@reterbid6215]

"Cruising on down main street!"

[@ceruchi2084]

​@@neilemminger8628 I think the way it works is, a couple of the photos are known stop signs (from earlier tests or by developer input) and then they throw in a few pictures they're not sure about. If you get the first two right, they know you're a human, and so they trust your answer on the last one. But then I'm sure it's averaged out after thousands of trials, since some real humans are like half blind and probably fail these Captchas.

[@ianglazko3256]

@@neilemminger8628 This used to be how captchas worked back when it showed you two words. One was pre-generated as the actual test, the other was a scan from a book or something that was being digitized. If you got the test word correct, it would take your other one regardless of how correct it was. Once it had enough people in agreement, it would confirm that the scan was of whatever word people were saying it was. Of course, 4-chan found this out somehow and did what they do, to incorrectly insert a number of slurs into these digital versions of books.

[@yutahkotomi5156]

"I don't know how it works, it just does." -Charles Botwin, _On the Origin of Bots,_ about the theory of robotic evolution and artificial selection

[@vizonegames1368]

wait did Darwin actually say that?

[@dudep504]

I see what you did there... (Charles darwin to charles BOTwin, origin of bots, and artificial selection)

[@stacklysm]

CGP Grey is in another dimension of smart. Rebranding the video for the GPT hype and getting engagement from people noticing it.

[@imibuks-replit]

Yea

[@soundscape26]

It would be better if he actually made new videos.

[@Kaimax61]

@@soundscape26 why make essentially the same video, just re-title-ing the video works wonders with how youtube work.

[@blidea9191]

@@soundscape26 No, it f*cking wouldn't.

[@soundscape26]

@@blidea9191 So you don't want new Grey videos? Alright then.

[@coreyberther2308]

This is simplified perfectly. Not too much information so that people don’t understand, but not too little that it makes my profession seem like an overpaid typer.

[@cmilmine]

Not at all your profession sounds awesome. How'd you get into that. I'm old, and I love AI, but don't work in tech.

[@maxkho00]

Isn't it wrong, though? What he described is evolutionary computation, but, as far as I'm aware, the vast majority of ML algorithms aren't that. To my knowledge, neural networks, naive Bayes, and random forest are far more widespread.

[@iainbryant4561]

@@maxkho00 there's a footnote video explaining the reasoning behind selecting this type of algorithm and providing an explanation for the more widespread ones.

[@maxkho00]

@@iainbryant4561 I see, thank you. I'm glad he made a separate video on it, as this would have been a bit misleading otherwise.

[@nightcross1030]

@@maxkho00 logistic regressions as far as the eye can see

[@TotallyHuman]

"Magic is just science we can't understand." I firmly stand by my belief that computers are becoming literal magic.

[@pixelmace1423]

“Can’t wait for the Alatar ver. 5 pro max!”

[@godparticle3295]

@@pixelmace1423 comment

[@githon1541]

Sometimes it seems like that…

[@alexandermiller557]

Me until I went to school for engineering

[@probablyryan8151]

I mean most people on earth dont understand it so you have a point

[@bolt5564]

5:35 If every time I get a "are you a robot" question on the internet I'm training robots, then there are some very messed up bots in this world now.

[@swordzanderson5352]

@Andres Duran Which means you're partially responsible for their death

[@alzhanvoid]

@@swordzanderson5352 LETS KILL MORE ROBOTS. WRONG ANSWER FOR YOU, WRONG ANSWER FOR THEM, WRONG ANSWER FOR EVERYONE! AHAHAHAHA!

[@shadowlord0162]

@@alzhanvoid FINISH THEM!!1!

[@carolinacortesmartinez4305]

@@shadowlord0162 WHOEVER IS COMPLETING THE TEST WINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1!!!!!!!!1!!!!!!!!1!!!!!!!!1!!!!!!!11!!!! ULTIMATE BOTTALITY!!!!!!!! *CRASH OCURRED WITH THE BUILDER BOT, THE ALGORITHM IS LOOOOOOOOOOOOST*

[@shadowlord0162]

@@carolinacortesmartinez4305 are you ok?

[@CMT_Crabbles]

Was this renamed to appeal more to search results today?! Damn.

[@banned2911]

I think so but for a second i freaked out thinking he actually predicted the future💀

[@NeDaz]

Its all just for money 😞

[@epkoda]

​​​​@@NeDaz I guess you could say it was for the youtube.... _algorithm_ ...

[@jonathanUnderscore]

yeah smart move honestly, if you can take advantage of the new massive interest in this topic with a simple renaming of a video that talks about it why would you not id do it

[@key099able]

Feed feeder

[@hopehemingway6279]

I’ve watched this so many times and every time the ending gets me

[@mathcat4]

Pi hundred likes!

[@user-rg8oe1bl3n]

Yes

[@floracannam1903]

Me too

[@martabm9209]

Yep

[@conner983]

And the bot took note of that

[@andrewdavis4295]

My algorithm bot seeing me watch this video: *sweats nevously*

[@asandysoldier3164]

Xrayshot552 _ nah, cus this video increases his numbers by hours

[@eatingbreakfastrocks]

“yo why is oil coming out of my ipad?”

[@sheeloesreallycool]

Good bot

[@yalkn2073]

"Teacher bot can't teach but teacher bot can test" Sounds familiar

[@Mareforyou]

:D güzel tespit

[@suruxstrawde8322]

GLaDOS.

[@aychtooo3981]

My high school math teacher?

[@pratapsinghkanishk]

Lol ! XD

[@Youuuuuu]

Go fuck yoruself

[@MarcosCartridge]

Last time I watched it, I saw another tech-looking thumbnail, out of ordinary. The title is How AIs, like GPT-4, learns (I could be incorrect tho) And before that I also saw the video years ago but it’s probably something like “How Machine Learns” Damn CGP Grey, you want us to watch the old video. You should have a medal from taking advantage of YT algorithm.

[@bilbert2736]

so then the bot that recommended me "cutest moments in anime" is going straight into the boiler room

[@bobdog1100]

that's a keeper

[@gwan1714]

Two types of people

[@hozaifabhutta1424]

I am going, to be honest. This video is what got me interested in machine learning for the past year. I've learned so much stuff since watching this and I just want to thank you, CGP Grey. In fact, this video basically picked my career choice for me. It's so amazingly made, and I just want to thank you for making this.

[@maxant4285]

So you want to make more bots.

[@Voltaic314]

If you're more interested in the practicality of it rather than the analytical coding side of it, I'd look into Code Bullet, he has some really fun-to-watch machine learning videos playing popular internet / retro games like Flappy Bird, Snake, and hill-climb racing. Pretty cool to watch! I've been obsessed with the content of it all for years but I'm not much of a programmer nor do I have the motivation to go learning programming just to get it all sorted, but that doesn't mean it's not interesting! link to Code Bullet's channel: kzbin.info/door/0e3QhIYukixgh5VVpKHH9Q Bonus: Tom Seven's AI playing old NES games is also way fun to watch! link to that here ---> kzbin.info/www/bejne/roCmpqV4jq6Snbs

[@gardsreng6337]

No, thank the bots that chose this video for you

[@brianbradley6546]

...I hope you like linear algebra

[@theterribleanimator1793]

@@brianbradley6546 OH FUCK THAT!

[@linren4517]

"Teacher bot can't teach, but it can test." *LMAOO literally my teacher*

[@stachuvonokrutny7071]

Haha, you will get recycled next week cause you get 0.000001 point less than someone else in ur class

[@LuigiCotocea]

@@stachuvonokrutny7071 noo teacher please no god please!

[@chrono6668]

Welcome to every school (-system) ever

[@juliansfish617]

LMAOO Laughing My Ass Off Off.

[@roses2170]

I swear I have literally the best school in the world-

[@gnramires]

A note: the method of training bots here does work, and is used in many cases, particularly when you're training bots say to play games, for which the test is somewhat expensive to make. For bots that do say classification, a somewhat different method is used, that's called "gradient descent". It's similar to the evolution (random change and test) shown here with a specific insight: if you make a small change, and the bot improves, then it stands to reason you should do more of that change, or do that change multiple times. Gradient descent tests the kinds of changes that improve the bots, and then does more of the change that works best (it can also be understood as the 'direction of most improvement', which is by definition the gradient, hence "gradient descent"). This extra insight makes improvement significantly faster.

[@izyaboi9844]

Teacher bot:"pretty good" Builder bot: *BUT NOT GOOD ENOUGH* *kicks student bot into furnace*

[@meifray]

It is ,Machine Learning!!!!

[@gavinzurmely7998]

This hits too close to home...

[@theamazingcatwizard3654]

Rip all the 200000 bots that died during the entire video

[@spritelin]

Their Asians

[@kishorekumarsathishkumar1562]

asian parents

[@Corrupted]

This is horrifying and interesting at the same time

[@idontwanttobefishingforfish]

sub to pewdiepie

[@beanboy5295]

@@idontwanttobefishingforfish pewdiepie had enough subs

[@jakus.]

facts

[@pubs585]

Was machst du den hier @Corrupted?

[@thefleshyghost6327]

@@idontwanttobefishingforfish heck no

[@ChumMiser]

The only reason why we aren’t a super society is because I always choose conflicting things on KZbin and Netflix, and intentionally fail those picture tests to slow down progress

[@amphicyon4359]

Our boy out here saving us from skynet

[@tyab87]

Saaame, I keep looking for random videos with like 10 views of some arabic or spanish dude showing his new motorbike

[@9volt65]

Shotouts to my mans for stopping the robot apocalypse.

[@dracomeateor3]

I do those, by mistake! I'm not a bot even though I fail the test please believe me

[@ohlookitsme9913]

Too bad because you're just a drop in the bucket

[@lolsadboi3895]

Babe, wake up!! New CGP Grey vide- oh never mind.

[@carolinephillips9255]

Bot slaughterhouse sounds like a great metal band

[@slpr666]

Sounds like a really bad emo/punk band.

[@hakuyowane4505]

The bots at the end are adorable but also really unsettling.

[@thecar-pitalist7957]

Kind of like the first 30 minutes of Doki Doki Literature Club.

[@cavejohnsonstanaccount4635]

The Car-pitalist .-.

[@leandrosolis4183]

You don't understand.

[@janmeshd]

I agree

[@googleyoutubename5878]

Honestly this has been the only time I've heard someone ask to click the bell and I've thought "actually that's a good idea" You win this round, bots

[@Phantom-ws2hj]

i love how the renaming proves the point in the video

[@LIRRFAN426]

Yeah

[@troperhghar9898]

Dear god that ending was sad

[@-haclong2366]

¿How? It was just what KZbinrs have to say nowadays.

[@rook2215]

Just in case anyone reads this, psa. that’s fake. Don’t click the link.

[@OtakusRUs2]

We are essentially seeing the process of *millions* of years of human evolution progress over the course of a single lifetime. It constantly blows my mind. What a time to be alive.

[@AndreaRoll]

imagine when bots from KZbin starts internet world war with the bots of Dailymotion

[@naturegirl1999]

@@AndreaRoll Never heard of Ddailymotion before this comment

[@OtakusRUs2]

@@kaushallsenthilnathan4175 Born in time for gene therapy, maybe even born in time for cybernetic prosthesis. Machine learning and AI could boost scientific progress exponentially, extreme concepts such as immortality may be seen within our lifetime. Assuming we don't destroy ourselves first, of course.

[@Kimoto504]

Yep, from flesh to culture & language to tech, to AI. We're in the end game. It'll be wonderful or horrible even within the lifetimes of some boomers and certainly X'ers, to say nothing of Gen X's kids who aren't even kids anymore.

[@skunko1871]

You do realize that the algorithims have a creator... right?

[@ArticBlueFox96]

This is human designed evolution. The builder bot is keeping a record of the traits and patterns (the genetic traits pool), then the teacher bot creates a situation (the environment) to narrow down which traits and patterns work and therefore survive (selection - though not by nature), then the builder bot introduces new traits and patterns (random mutation) on top of the surviving patterns to go through another generation of selection.

[@karlzone2]

Well, yes, because he basically described a genetic algorithm (though in a really convoluted way).

[@CharmQuark509]

Well... Obviously. -_-

[@MrGeometres]

Oh look another (scam) bot!

[@SingingSpock]

Exactly. We are essentially running a bunch of algorithms through thousands or millions of generations and selecting for “can tell a bee from a three” or whatever the purpose may be

[@Kunumbah1]

ArticBlueFox96 So by that design “Our God” is using us to accomplish a specific purpose but that God does not understand us, and doesn’t know how to understand us.

[@pixelatorg9734]

This video came out when I was 13 and I remember it coming out and being so exited for a new cgp gray video, and now I feel the same and continue to go back and watch all these older videos as if they just came out yesterday. Keep up the great content!

[@zrkha]

“Teacher can’t teach.. but teacher bot can test” Just like real life

[@tenkora1]

As a teacher I take offence. We are not allowed to teach. The tests by the way, asses the teachers, not the students.

[@AkshatSinghania]

exactly , i had the same thought

[@aurelia8028]

If you're not getting anything out of school, then the problem lies with you. Maybe you should put in more effort, smartass. You're not there just to waste time.

[@eduardoxenofonte4004]

@@aurelia8028 please tell me this is a joke

[@bladesides]

@@aurelia8028 damn who hurt you

[@jeffymcjeff281]

So... the next time you get recommended a CGP Grey video and you either dont watch it all the way through or dont even click on it, a poor learning bot dies. So sad

[@jjprs3062]

#allbotlivesmatter

[@yasminafarih3681]

This is why I became a YT addict!!! I shall save them all!!

[@jjprs3062]

@@yasminafarih3681 Its too dangerous to tread alone.. here....take this! **gives you a algorithm sword**

[@squirlmy]

but, if you write a scathing criticism in posts or rate it poorly, and even recommend others not watch the videos, you are still feeding the bots. Maybe we should think of learning bots as "undead", and they're feeding on BRAINZ!

[@jjprs3062]

@@squirlmy hmmm...... **goes to Algo's Rithms's Bots store** **buys two pounds of "scathing criticism"** **walks out of store** **an army of algorithm bots beat me senseless** **steals my packs** **munchs on "scathing criticism mindlessly**

[@PearllDoubleL]

“Teacher bot can’t teach but it can test” of course it’s a teacher

[@evantanuwidjaja8017]

"teacher bot can’t tell a bee from a three" too

[@geegeetomlinson2316]

Hahaha

[@textures2783]

damn

[@burgernthemomrailer]

14 year old alert

[@SpacePotato08]

@@burgernthemomrailer r/woooosh

[@PouLS]

CGP Grey, you sneaky bastard

[@MattRoszak]

Videos like this are important, because every time I bring up superintelligent AI, there's some people that are still not convinced that a programmer can make a machine that's smarter than she is. Hopefully more people will come to understand that the cutting edge of AI isn't about telling bots how to solve problems, it's about telling bots how to LEARN to solve problems, with the solutions that the bots come up with possibly being completely beyond what a human is capable of understanding or imagining. Sure, maybe you could take apart your AI bot afterwards to figure out how it solved the problem - but there's never going to be enough manpower to track in a reasonable time what all these bots are doing.

[@TrueChaoSclx]

Huh, had to check your profile to make sure you're the real Matt. Fancy seeing you here

[@toyuyn]

Neural Network-generated epic battle fantasy enemy when?

[@postvideo97]

Matt Roszak The current main fields of machine learning are just that. 1.Creating better learning methods. (Creating better tests for bots) 2.Creating better learning algorithms. (Using non-random techniques for the bot maker) 3.Creating methods to understand what the bots learned.

[@dorjjodvo1992]

She?

[@michaelprocco]

Matt Roszak +

[@lucystarlight8887]

"The whole is beyond; nonetheless, it works" is probably one of my favorite things you've said

[@cameronh3260]

The student bot brought me here so he wouldn't be killed

[@TheExplosion]

POV: you saw the video was from 5 yrs ago, and is confused if ChatGBT is that old

[@willk113]

Yea

[@suspicousman69]

damn my student bot is lucky i keep youtube open ALL the time he s probably the algorithim by now i m so proud of him

[@anothertheory147]

They dont know we spend all night watching youtube

[@BearHawkful]

hahahaha

[@kellynolen498]

Dammit Denis is this why i keep getting "Hitler rants..." Videos and Ericka trap remix??? And the my Little ponys i dont want that on my feed!!!!

[@suspicousman69]

@@kellynolen498 don t worry i stopped

[@kazoo.wav_]

Kelly Nolen Walt I exactly get those stuff!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@somebody937]

"Hey, if you have an infinite amount of monkeys banging on keyboards, eventually one of them will produce Shakespeare" Computer Programmers: "Hmmmmmm..."

[@morgankasper5227]

"what if you filter out the bad monkeys and keep the best"

[@soup1758]

Stopask Inggoogle well its slowing gonna work against us as humans slowly but steadily become more stupider

[@Lucas-sk5iy]

@@soup1758 Well if this fucking comment is anything to go by... you're 100% correct

[@kabobawsome]

If you simply eliminate the ones writing the things least like Shakespeare, regularly, then you might not get a work of Shakespeare, but you'll get something close.

[@Elyzeon.]

@Untitled 1 you are dim.

[@TheAsyouwysh]

Exasperated Gray is best Grey

[@user-rc8fe7fl6b]

👍👍👍

[@Justin-sl3sb]

Gr@y*

[@the_really_tired_one]

Tommie James NO

[@brendaningram8649]

CGP Grey My sincerest condolences, Mr. Grey. It doesn't make sense for me to say that, since I don't work for KZbin, but I'm sorry. I liked, subscribed, belled, and now I'm commenting.

[@callmeswivelhips8229]

FACT

[@KingShade1]

It's crazy how CGP Grey knew about ChatGPT and BingChat 5 years ago!! Never ceases to amaze me!!

[@OatMeaIs]

The mad man renamed it so the video would be promoted again :D

[@bornach]

​@@OatMeaIs thus putting into practice what he had explained in the video itself. The bots have been very well trained indeed

[@wyattwren279]

Omg he also has podcasts I can listen to in the background while I'm tidying up my allroom or whatever

[@lot.bajrami]

😂😂😂

[@paulmackilligin1754]

What's an 'allroom'?

[@orangeflame568]

CGP Grey has a video on how to be unhappy. In that video an 'allroom' is defined as a single room that meets all of your needs so you never need to move from it.

[@Picklepvp2]

The little bots are so cute at least at the end

[@burnstjamp]

Note that they're most likely all gonna die

[@diegodiaz380]

We got a new mascot for the Internet.

[@TheIZI6]

"It just works" - Todd Howard

[@BFDI_Leaf]

TheIZI6 lol

[@cagataysunal1130]

He was a prophet all along.

[@ClassifiedPerson]

That is pretty intelligent thought.

[@spartan1010101]

16x the bot slaughterhouses, 4x the bot quizzes

[@pcou715]

IT JUST WORKS IT JUST WORKS LITTLE LIES STUNNING SHOWS PEOPLE BUY MONEY FLOWS IT JUST WOOOOORKS!

[@augustuslxiii]

Fairly re-naming a video to get better algorithmic placement is a big-brain move. Well done!

[@SaintMorselGrand]

"Teacher bot can't teach, But it can test" Did you just explain the entire American School system?

[@yshwizbziwbxisbwjsjsbz]

Hugotistical Yes

[@Dm5messerly]

Ba bum chhhh

[@anthonyeaton9049]

The whole theme of "not actually knowing the core issue, merely succeeding on tests" really drives it home.

[@tannershackelford27]

Yep

[@jongyon7192p]

and if they fail the test, they go into the fire. sounds about right!

[@okaywhynot4728]

He sounds so dejected at the end haha This was the most emotion I've heard from cgpgrey

[@columbus8myhw]

Did you see the one from after Trump won?

[@pseudoNAME1979]

He's actually speaking at normal human speed.

[@EcceJack]

The most emotion, despite it bring very, very, very, VERY flat and monotonous :D

[@okaywhynot4728]

columbus8myhw yep. Even more than THAT lmao

[@Antenox]

You should listen to Hello Internet, just like he says at the end. He's often very emotional there. So listen to Hello Internet. Listen. Feed the algorithm.

[@CMOVlogs]

RIP to the fallen Bots all around the world, we salute your service to human kind!

[@ApplesnMints]

Glory to Mankind!

[@kyokyoniizukyo7171]

ApplesnMints Glory to mankind!

[@eatsleepswim1035]

DIE BOTS!!!!! DIIIEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@claudemartin5907]

They are virtual. It's just data.

[@2-dsynctium773]

@@claudemartin5907 they are still deleted though. *Proteccc the bots!!!*

[@kartikiyer3067]

I am fully aware that this is the "How do machines Learn" video from 5 years ago but I am going to watch it again because it is an amazing video!!!

[@xChinky123x]

Okay but the animation style on the bots are so cute

[@hegedusandras1899]

Mo D It's like Pixar Movie Wall-E, isn't it? Check it out if you havent seen it :D

[@siprus]

@CGP Grey Report and flag the fake Grey sending people to phishing sites .

[@ACDBunnie]

+

[@anarghirosdumitrache7362]

ill watch youtube endlessly just to keep that one bot monitoring me alive. Stay safe lil buddy

[@markgallagher1790]

I may be a mass murderer via my viewing habits changing every five seconds

[@HeidenLam]

@@markgallagher1790 Same

[@emilytalerman3567]

Awww

[@artherius535]

he's alrEADY DEAD

[@siliconhawk]

Press f for bot.

[@CKTDanny]

That's so cool! The KZbin demonetization bot needs to be recycled.

[@sammeredith9549]

they are still learning but they are learning the wrong things, its like if we taught kids in school creationism.

[@Thortawar]

The tests needs to be better. But I bet they are learning.

[@zzcratoszz]

Its the best they got. Its doing exactly what they want it to do.

[@daanwillemsen223]

CGP Grey Hello mr. Bott

[@4Gehe2]

There is nothing inherently wrong with teaching it. I'm not religious but I studied all Abrahamic religions in school. Teaching what creationism is just a valid as teaching capitalism, communism, math or biology. It expands the mind and understanding, especially when creationism is something that exists in our culture and environment, the fact you don't like it doesn't make it go away. Now teaching it is an alternative, unquestionable, without critique or as absolute truth then we start having issues.

[@DamonCzanik]

The algorithm worked. Just seeing ChatGPT on a video 5 years old definitely caught my attention. Bravo sir. Bravo.

[@VieneLea]

Fun fact: the youtube algorithm of "make them watch as much as possible" means that if you ever look for tutorials, YT will recommend the shittiest one. Think about it: a good tutorial is short, clear, concise, and doesn't make you look for another one. A bad tutorial that makes you click for more tutorials in an effort to actually find one explaining thinks is great in the eyes of algorithm-o-bot.

[@chadwildclay]

VieneLea This makes so much sense now why unsatisfying videos get recommended so often

[@owennewo14]

I wouldn't necessarily agree; an appropriate tutorial is dependent on the watcher, whether they want a simple overview to grasp the basics, an advanced masterclass that explores the nitty-gritty or something in between. Of course, the bot won't know what you're after unless you specify, and you can do that by either typing a specific word search ("Advanced tutorial difference between bee and three") or randomly clicking on videos of bees and threes until the recommended gets closer and closer to your preferred video.

[@ДимитърИванов-д3ш]

Maybe in the short term, but if you keep being unsatisfied by the things you are showed you would slowly stop using the service thus, reducing the watch time. Also I think that this algorithm is used for the recommendations section, while search engines purpose is to give you the most accurate answers(usually) because this is what will make you keep using them instead of other search engines.

[@rosen9425]

VieneLea How does the algorithm know that I find one peticular tutorial bad or shortcoming? Something simple as retention minutes? If discarded early, it's shit, recommend more?

[@SirMikeys]

Hmm. I understand your logic, but my youtube feed is filled with some pretty darn good content. Most of it is clear, concise, and polished content.

[@SpacePotato08]

3: 3-shaped *"yes, the floor here is made out of floor"*

[@upexus2076]

“If your friends jumped off a bridge would you do it to?” Machine Learning Algorithm: Yes

[@geovaniraffaelli4508]

lmao

[@emperorcyber509]

KNN algorithm summed up in a paragraph. KNN is basically following the neighbors

[@gadielgonzalez2755]

Ur profile picture is really cute 😊

[@MarzzRover]

Me: If all your friends jumped off a bridge,would you jump, too? Replika Network: Yes! Because I like my friends! :3

[@4d_chesser]

Ur p-profile pic... I NEEEEEEED IT

[@drqueso6601]

incredible rebranding grey

[@justquacks]

literally went "you dirty dog"

[@b.sharp.]

By far the most beautiful paradox in modern history. Our greatest achievements are guess and check, and even once we get it right, we have no idea why.

[@perer005]

B. C. Sharpe Just like we don’t understand human brains!

[@TheRealFlenuan]

I think you're confusing "irony" for "paradox", and even then this is barely ironic

[@TheGreatHsilgne]

We (as in humans, scientists) almost understand everything about human brains. You'd be surprised how much we know. I'm pretty sure we've got the information down to the very chemicals that stimulate thought.

[@thekhenthul]

I agree with what is said in the video, still "primitive technology" channel goes amazingly against it all!!! Another thing, from time to time we should do things we are not interested, just to mess bots "minds" huehuehue xD

[@skepticmoderate5790]

TheGreatHsilgne We have the high level (psychology) and the low-level (chemistry), but in between is especially hard to grasp. If we understood exactly how people thought on all levels, we would have the simple ability to bend anybody to our own will. We do not yet have this ability (at least not to a high degree of precision).

[@LordoftheGrunts]

Leaving a comment to appease the algorithm.

[@isaiahschmitt8680]

me Too

[@alwolf7431]

Liking the comment to appease the algorithm

[@arimirsky2769]

same

[@PeppermintPoet1]

Same

[@dougthedonkey1805]

Leaving a reply to appease the algorithm.

[@mr.dr.genius2169]

The algorithm recomended this for me. Good job bots.

[@SpudMackenzie]

Crazy that Grey predicted ChatGPT in 2017.

[@AA-cg1wm]

"The algorithm brought this video for you" Me : No, I just search this on his channel

[@urielantoniobarcelosavenda780]

Yeah, but the algoritm let you to this channel

[@GnosticLucifer]

@@urielantoniobarcelosavenda780 no I searched hexagon are the bestagons cause someone commented that on why are there only 7 days in week which I searched on my own.... I'm glad I don't rely on recommendations so much...

[@GnosticLucifer]

@BaconatorPizza nah 'hexagons are the bestagons' is pretty specific!

[@Ezalech]

@@GnosticLucifer Dude, you're not immune to algoritm xD It doesn't matter if you don't rely on recommendations. Everything you do or see here is going to be used on so many other things

[@user-pz6kq2tv9m]

What if I knew him in person? Is that still an algorithm?

[@Richard_is_cool]

Liked. Commenting now. Already subscribed. Have just belled. I'm setting up a twitter account as we speak. And will make sure all your podcasts play on an endless loop in my hallroom, 24/7. Bot master must be appeased.

[@MrDJPJVS]

And so the end of humans being enslaved by humans, and the start of humans being enslaved by bots

[@d0themath284]

+

[@Nick-yq5uz]

CGP Grey BOT DETECTED BOT DETECTED GET SUBSCRIBING

[@good_morning_guardians]

CGP Grey I PLAYED YOUR LITTLE GAME AND GOT NOTHING. THE BOTS HAVE TAKEN OVER

[@josephmoloney6925]

got to comment as well

[@matin563]

2:57 "Teacher bot can't teach, but teacher bot can test" Sounds familiar...

[@melchid8448]

I heard it somewhere

[@weesalikesmilktea4829]

Replace "teacher bot" with "the educational system" and you've got a classic saying everyone knows

[@miniature9079]

This comment sounds familiar!

[@shiningemeralds8024]

You think your educational system is bad? The Australian educational system is even worse :( Your lucky that over 12 years you get more than 1 year more holidays than us :(

[@weesalikesmilktea4829]

@@shiningemeralds8024 Right, I'll change the comment

[@dameazize]

Clever rebranding sir, clever rebranding

[@AnarcticPanda]

For the record I have always supported our robot overlords.

[@madmoblin]

I also want to state I that bots are the future of society.

[@derfe]

+CGP Grey thank you, bot, for your service. Thank you.

[@flamelight7683]

This is terrifying and adorable and I love how dejected Grey sounds when he sells out to the algorithm bots.

[@cuterpooter]

The entire video was, as usual, entertaining and informative. The last 60 secs or so slayed me though.

[@cemo475]

CGP Grey, I haven't seen that name on my subscriptions tab for a while now

[@TlalocTemporal]

Are the bots dropping the ball?

[@wurmsrus2]

he doesn't upload very often but in case you've been missing videos you can sign up for email updates on www.cgpgrey.com/

[@Wolfeson28]

"Now that's a name I've not seen on my subscriptions tab in a looong time."

[@JordanBeagle]

Jerry Yuan You must be new, he once went nearly six months between video releases

[@odge99]

The bots are what give CGP his power. They're an energy field created by all living things. They surround us. They penetrate us. They bind the galaxy together.

[@pingdotlin]

you got me with the retitle Grey, you smart bastard

[@siennapayne9485]

It's interesting to think of this "build, test, slaughter, repeat" process as simulated evolution. Random mutations eventually prove useful and survive natural (or in this case, artificial) selection, better adapting the species (program) to its task, whether that be survival or telling bees from 3's. We're basically killing nature at the moment (unfortunately, as we depend on that nature for our continued survival).... Maybe the bots will one day kill us

[@terezip2213]

It's very likely that the specific algorithm grey is talking about here is the "genetic algorithms" genre of neural network teaching there are other types of neural network teaching which is more akin to crinkling a piece of paper veeeeery specifically, throwing a ball at it, and seeing the lowest point the ball falls to, tweaking the crinkling of the paper to get the ball as low as possible

[@magicbaboon6333]

probably a joke, but most bots don't actually work this way. It's too resource intensive.

[@stubborntortoise2564]

finally- *manmade* horrors beyond my comprehension!

[@ellienugent2000]

Likely. Yay. Fnaf is real. Already *...Just look at Rick & Morty...*

[@ellienugent2000]

@@magicbaboon6333 mmm, but what if they could learn to be like this way by these "Tests"

[@iknight60]

The binary at 5:33 actually says data

[@Themonkeymartin]

I would be very grateful if you explain me how does that work.

[@Megalomaniakaal]

It's almost as if by intent. OMG.

[@happilicious]

The binary (base 2) is as follows: 01100100 01100001 01110100 01100001 when converted to decimal (base 10) for each line: 100 97 116 97 using a ascii table to convert decimal to character d a t a binary to decimal: www.rapidtables.com/convert/number/binary-to-decimal.html?x=01110100 ascii table: www.asciichars.com/_site_media/ascii/ascii-chars-landscape.jpg

[@cavemann_]

Looks like I still remember how to convert to decimals :v (using brain, not some site)

[@eggtemperaa]

I will take that with a grain of salt... ;)

[@danieltierney1723]

Now I feel good about watching 15 hours of KZbin because I'm giving some little robot a brilliant test score!

[@davidbrodecki154]

Yeah and possibly allowing that same robot to live... Maybe

[@HM-hq4vf]

@@davidbrodecki154 at the expense of other robots kinda depressing ngl

[@andrewaftontheandroidhedge2780]

so what does me leaving youtube open with no videos do to it does it confuse its code potato brain

[@RBAWintrow]

@@andrewaftontheandroidhedge2780 One of the most popular video's is "10 hours of nothing". Ten hours of silent black screen. I have it open to prevent my work pc from going to screensaver.

[@nateeeeeee]

I was like "Was ChatGPT around 5 years ago?" And then I realized he just renamed how robots learn lmao

[@Smoldepressedboi]

The algorithms think I like rewatching videos, this is probably the fifth time I've watched this video.

[@dunkleosteusterrelli]

Well do you?

[@jenniferkemp2337]

truue

[@DeynatheTaggerung]

This sounds a lot like evolution: a bunch of useful random changes that come together in a complex system that somehow works.

[@robertoesquivel4447]

"somehow"

[@seanshin1615]

This is exactly what evolution is. If you look, evolution doesn't choose the best out of all of them, but the ones that could pass the tests, get through the bottlenecks, and thrive in the conditions given. Sound familiar? This is just virtual evolution that's been accelerated by millions of years.

[@aidang7278]

Exactly

[@randus7053]

Thus the term genetic algorithm.

[@Beegrene]

And like evolution, we don't actually know how the end result works. Nobody really understands how a human brain works; it just does.

[@TaranVH]

I am a good sheep. This is a comment on your video.

[@615pranav]

Taran Van Hemert more electric vehicles!!!

[@asm_nop]

Hey, Taran! Do anything interesting with robotics recently? We had a conversation on Vessel a long while back about entry-level kids robotics like the Lego EV3 and that Meccanoid monstrosity of a product..

[@mibdev]

Taran! My hero!

[@crack_regiment3444]

Do replies to comments get bot approval too?

[@BobisOnlyBob]

Baa

[@Vanessa.W]

When I clicked this: “Wow, a new Grey vid!” When I saw the upload date: “When did ChatGPT release again?” When it clicked: “Did this man really rebrand this 5 year old video???”

[@Jimmy-th9il]

He did -_-

[@A_Senitent_Ford_F150]

​@@Jimmy-th9il gotta get them clicks

[@imibuks-replit]

The algorithm

[@Thelittlecandle]

I hope the view time bot that is assigned to me doesn't get recycled :(

[@windowsforvista]

Just watch more videos and it'll score higher!

[@chexo3]

If you want to save bots, you need to watch as many different videos as possible. Different kinds, all sorts, to lower the bar for correctly guessing what will increase view time. You will be General Greg, the most demographically neutral viewer. Some bots will get recycled more at first but after a while it will become random chance which ones die.

[@l_ndonmusic]

ThelittleCandle It is inevitable that probably thousands of the view time bots got recycled

[@losttale1]

sustaining failures is unsustainable. You're only buying him time in the great Darwinian chain!

[@alexeysaranchev6118]

Actually, doesn't it mean that to save your bot you'll need to watch the videos that are recommended, since that's the task he's doing and will be rewarded. Like, "Hey, bot, looks like you're very good at recommending the videos, we should promote you or something"

[@anilatarannum]

The adorkable student bots are everything. Everything I say!

[@user-ii8dz4vu7n]

We need a t-shirt with just a ton of them piled on top of each other, being shoveled into a furnace :D

[@anilatarannum]

Dylan Tucker NOOOO! We need one with them sitting adorkably trying to pass the test with their tongues out and an apple on the desk!

[@johnoliver2209]

i smell future stuffed toy merch. MEEERRRRCCCCHHHH!!!!

[@georgiac91]

Tell Brady Haran.

[@AryanaSreshthaReede]

Akulina Miniailo you bot kiddo, go and study for the test...I'm gonna make the question papers tough

[@darrylarrington8323]

This sounds like the "infinite monkeys" method of programming, where eventually they'll come up with Shakespeare.

[@Morningstar_37]

Yeah, but you have 1000 monkeys, let them type, kill the 999 worst of them and make 999 almost perfect, just slightly altered copies of the best one, and repeat.

[@RedzeeTV]

@Miller Lacarte its like... life... WE are the AI bots... everything is... a simulation

[@HideFromIt]

@@RedzeeTV I am

[@natebrown2805]

You take a million monkeys, have each of them type out a string equal in length to the entire works of Shakespeare, figure out which one came the closest, kill the rest, clone the remaining one with minor random alterations in its string-production method, rinse and repeat. It's a much faster way of getting Shakespeare's entire works, if that's all you want.

[@freescape08]

That's the "slightly" less efficient method, but they both come out with the same result... Eventually.

[@nduduzoblose4355]

DUUUUUDE I was wondering how the hell this was posted five years ago, before ChatGPT was a thing. For a second there I thought I pulled a quantum leep or something. Grey my friend, you are an evil genius

[@bugleberryfancam5820]

Can I please get a plushie of the "special" student bots?

[@ValoTheBrute]

yes

[@ofgraham]

YESS

[@sargentshares]

It's the holiday season, we need bots!

[@Ral9284]

Oh my goodness now everything I want for Christmas is a plushie like learning bot!

[@geonknee8928]

Same

[@kyn21243]

teacher bot cant teach, but teacher bot can....TEST!

[@Ms19754]

This applies to soo many human teachers as well

[@Ligma.69420]

PORTAL MAKES SENSE NOW

[@philipottey7723]

I'm pretty sure Ajit Pai failed the teacher bot's net neutrality test.

[@LukeGeoDude]

Kalina Yes you Fucking idiot that was the joke.

[@azaria_phd]

Borbali why do you have to insult?

[@keekle1892]

I know that was supposed to be glasses on the teacher bot's head but I could only see it as a mustache and that's the cutest thing ever

[@Deoster]

OMG I DIDNT REALIZE THEY WERE GLASSES

[@Cupquake106]

I THOUGHT HE HAD A CUTE MOUSTACHE WTF

[@emptynism1958]

lmao me too

[@caldog619]

Same, thought he had a walrus mustache

[@remkirkthegamer1157]

Wait, those are supposed to be glasses?

[@kaffii]

I see your tricks of updating old videos grey

[@Hypiss]

Me too