How Alcohol Affects Your Darts Game! - Testing Alcohol Vs No Alcohol

[@stevetranter4807]

Love darts with or without a beer. Love a beer with or without darts. Life is just a balance of the things you like and enjoy

[@romanreckless8263]

cheers mate!!

[@martinredr]

Love this quote, mate! Enjoy!

[@silmupelaa6349]

Well said 👍

[@leerodger9197]

I've always had a theory that it gradually gets better and then there comes a point where it dramatically drops, thanks for confirming this haha.

[@djdansezxmass]

I think the scientific term for what you’re describing is the ‘Pilsner Plateau’...

[@patrickkeogh844]

Same as playing pool then 😀

[@leerodger9197]

Patrick Keogh I find the tolerance is a lot higher with pool haha

[@patrickkeogh844]

Yeah and I think the peak lasts longer with pool too. Before the drop off

[@leerodger9197]

Patrick Keogh this is the science we all needed 😂

[@claymore32]

Roses are red, Violets are blue, Too much beer playing darts, Out the window they flew

[@jarrenSA-ENG]

Excellent video. I find it to be a very very fine line at both Darts and Pool. Once i've tipped the balance too much my game falls off a cliff but there is without doubt a sweet spot where my game improves massively at both. It's always been something I didn't want to believe was true because I had confidence in my ability but there is little doubt now that a certain amount alcohol can improve my game. It can only be down to my arm relaxing a tiny bit and losing any small feeling of apprehension of missing or losing. Like I said though, once the balance has been tipped my game falls off a cliff.

[@djdansezxmass]

It’s called the ‘Pilsner Plateau’ and it’s a very fine line between a hero or a zero👌🍺

[@collinhaas6137]

Same with golf for me

[@johanneshirschbuchler8578]

I also noticed this effect. I think it's because you stop thinking with alcohol and you just throw the darts.

[@dezzie9771]

It just makes you relaxed but if your confident and don’t get nervous doesn’t make a shit of difference

[@frenkiefrenk8419]

For me it does tbh

[@ludvigdreng6315]

Nonsense. He was throwing darts alone in this experiment, so I dont think he was nervous or needed confidence. But it is correct that it relaxes your muscles, giving you a smoother throw.

[@TonPlusDarts]

I've been playing for about 7 years and never drank while playing(not a big drinker) but recently I decided at a comp to have a few drinks. Me playing drunk is, I'd roughly guess 5/7 points higher of an average than sober

[@bentattersfield7987]

I used to play in a darts team. Always had to have at least three pints in me or I was rubbish. We used to go to monthly medal competitions and I often did quite well. A few times our home bar was shut though, and we arrived too late to get served at the crowded bar. Every one of those times I lost almost straight away lol. Beer helped me block out any audience

[@alanmeasures8337]

I always play better with a few pints it's about finding the cut off point Good video.

[@djdansezxmass]

It’s called the ‘Pilsner Plateau’ 🍺

[@michaeleverton4882]

Alcohol can boost one's playing ability up to a certain level! I don't encourage anyone to drink alcohol for that purpose! I prefer to play on my own sober ability! After that, it becomes a false sense of security, then one's throwing accuracy will drop, and games can and will be lost; especially important games! 🙂

[@thetickler4487]

The difference between playing darts in a competitions to just playing by yourself or mates and drinking is that it takes the edge of and calms the nerves. Yes some people can play without a drink but not at a high level.

[@SpencerEvans1]

How come you changed to the free standing board? Noise?

[@merovski4837]

Totally agree, last week i was rubbish i wanted to drink to play better but remembered that i am not allowed for health issues but didnt want to lose since i am playing with some good players, had few shots and boom 180 and 100+ check outs, unfortunately i am fallen sick again coz of alcohol and cant play this week 🤣🤣

[@adrianaspbury2970]

I can’t play without a drink 4 pints minimum that’s why my captain always throws me on first because I’m pissed if I go on last

[@tomasmorrissey7324]

An old friend of mine rest him always said no less than 4 no more than 10

[@shubr66]

I remember being last on in a County match when I was 20 and I loved my beer . I bounced off every table walking to the stage but took my pint onto the stage . I won and I shot a 180 , I can picture the callers face !!! (Barry Plumstead , Norfolk ) It was a long long time ago . Happy times

[@tayhoppo]

When you say 100 darts is that in a 501 format or just scoring visits?

[@johanneshirschbuchler8578]

I think he just throw darts wothout a format so basically the 9 Dart average but i m not sure

[@romanreckless8263]

he is just adding the 100 darts score then deviding it by 100

[@bengcalogero9361]

@@romanreckless8263 and multiplied by 3..

[@markslater]

Great video! I was lucky enough to spend a few hours with some pro players a while back as a guest of a sponsor at a closed door event. I asked 3 or 4 of them the same question and they all said 3-4 pints was the optimum amount although it was was always tricky maintaining this level through a competition without having too much or too little at the time of the next game. That said the guy who won the day was completely pi55ed by the end of the night and could hardly walk. I do wonder what alcohol brings to the situation and can only assume it helps relax you, gives you a kind of false sense of ability which then increases confidence. There must be other ways of achieving this without drinking so much each time you want to play darts. I know several pro players use hypnosis.... While this video is a good experiment, I'd like to see it done over a longer time period as we often feel/play very different from day to day. Maybe a day of drinking before a session of nondrinking because I often play better if I've played for a few days on the trot. Well done Jack!

[@ivadadump6243]

It's how alcohol affects YOUR game. It does not mean it will be the same for everyone else

[@dangreene9846]

Here is a subject I know alot about . Beer definitely helps my dart game. When I mix that with adrenaline I can play pretty well, but if I drink too much im done.

[@TheDartsReferee]

Which I say, and I can't speak for everyone in the entire world, and omg I can't, this is why I shouldnt have read any stupid comments for this video 😂

[@stevetranter4807]

The Darts Referee any chance of doing a rating on the curry? As a slightly larger framed man this would be important to me also... ahaa

[@TheDartsReferee]

I ordered a lamb madras, rice and a peshawari naan, the curry was a lot milder than I'd expected but overall it was very good minis the heat. 8/10 would order again

[@ivadadump6243]

@@TheDartsReferee Your video title is YOUR experimentation. You should have titled the video exactly like this - "How alcohol affects MY game! - Testing alcohol Vs no alcohol.". You don't speak for the entire world, exactly, you don't. I just corrected your error. No need to be arrogant about it

[@judzkennedy]

Very interesting video! Could you do one measuring your heart rate when your playing your best darts and what it is when you’re playing your worst?

[@mezmanmerrill7412]

On average The 4th and 5th pint is my optimum just seem to stop overthinking after that it’s a steep fall on both pool and darts.

[@Csibu89]

I'd say even at 4-5pints, you would maybe start to deteriorate even without further beers if u just waited, further testing is needed😂🍻. I'd say maybe at 3pints,is where u get loose, stop to worry, get a somewhat tunnel vision that actually helps a bit. But anything more just messes it all up. For me at least.

[@robertrice9466]

When I first step on the oche, for some reason i’am a nervous wreck and barely hit the board. However after about 4 tins of beer I relax and play quite well, I wish I could bottle this feeling. I’d no idea how mentally and confidence based darts really is.

[@romanreckless8263]

imo, darts is like 10% physical, and 90% mental... think about it, even ur grandma COULD, step up to the oche and hit a maximum. ( be it luck or whatever) ... but to do it all the time, u must be mentally able to step up to the oche, and know u can hit it... if ur mind isnt right, ur not gonna play well

[@robertrice9466]

Roman Reckless find it hard to disagree with you there m8. I find it very confidence based also and therefore as confidence is a mental state this would render long practice sessions meaningless. Therefore How can people improve their games.

[@danielsturtridge4494]

What stand have you got?

[@mattmurdoch4345]

What dart stand do u have at home mate?

[@TheDartsReferee]

It's some unicorn one, not sure the exact name but it was about 70 quid

[@mattmurdoch4345]

The Darts Referee cheers, is it pretty sturdy? I keep nearly ordering one but worried itll be annoying if it rocks around

[@TheDartsReferee]

Yeah it's decent actually, I customised the board holding part on mine because the original design is a bit shit if you ask me, I may make a video on what I did

[@djdansezxmass]

As the alcohol did have a positive effect on your scoring ability (even tho for a short measure of time) could it therefore be classed as a performance enhancing substance and be banned from competitions due to the disadvantage (albeit small) to any non alcohol drinking competitor? I’m thinking eg: short best of 3-5 games mostlly played in pub comps etc would benefit the drinker generally according to your study?🤔 I love your vids and ideas matey, keep em coming!

[@larspieterman7238]

Only scoring darts or doubles as well?

[@tomasmorrissey7324]

Only at the 20 he said

[@yeotaJMU]

Where did you get those drawings/photos of the pros on your wall?

[@romanreckless8263]

Kevin painter!!

[@Csibu89]

I also don't think it's a generally good idea to train yourself in a way that u have to drink to get better. I think like u said, it takes the nervousness away a bit, loosens you up. But there are other healthier ways to do that too. Of course if u play a few hours once a week with a mate and drink a few pints, nothing wrong with it. But when you are a pro/semi pro earning substantial money doing it, you shouldn't really drink. Cause then u just have to drink to perform, which isn't a good thing in my book. And i think the top pros would probably be just as good without alcohol if they had to get used to it. It would of course take some getting used to, and maybe some real old timers wouldn't get to the very same level, but most i guess would be just as good.

[@neilfitzpatrick283]

Great video and really interesting results, would love to see the same but in a game scenario so the added pressure is there to see how sober v alcohol compare

[@TheDartsReferee]

That's exactly why I drink, because it makes a huge difference in pressure scenarios! I can't properly test it simply because there's no real darts going on at the moment

[@bobthesnobscotland2821]

THATS PRETTY CONCLUSIVE EVIDENCE THAT DARTS IS A PUB GAME

[@TheDartsReferee]

No need to shout

[@ambler1972]

I always play better after 3 or 4 pints then it goes down hill. I had bout 9 or 10 pints on Monday night at my darts and by the end it wasn’t going well haha 😆

[@AtomicDarts]

Hey Jack do you think that because you thru 700 darts the day before helped?

[@johnodubh6844]

Very interesting video to see the average with drink peek and at the same time with our drink peek around the same point but ofcourse steady with out drink. I use to drink many years ago i stopped a lonv story. But I still play drats planning to get to the big time but slow and steady is the way

[@seankearns8979]

I’ve never drank alcohol in my life never even tried it and don’t plan on ever drinking so for me just water, Coke or Fanta depending on how I feel. Sometimes Lucozade aswell

[@tomasmorrissey7324]

I'd love to be able to play pub league without drink but I get too nervous and get d shakes if I don't have at least 4 or 5

[@darrenmccauslin4637]

Defo be on the pasty’s in the toilet 😂

[@lofichill2725]

Alcohol orr soda thats just persona preferrence. Yes Alcohol relaxes you a bit orr you dont stress that much, but that dont affect the game, its just in mind set

[@MrBelter]

2 or 3 pints and i am deffo better, i am more relaxed and stop thinking about my throw and what the dart is doing. From pint 4 onwards though people need to start wearing a safety helmet.

[@martinredr]

We all know how that works. That's why even the top PDC players drink alcohol while competing. Fe, my experience is I have to have a couple of pints lately, cos then I'm a bit off my game and I'm not talking about the average. But still, it's good to have a practice without a drink.

[@geeza0099]

Be interesting to see if someone who doesn't drink when they play go the same way

[@RiKFSC]

so 5 pints... drink some water so you can hold that level than maybe go 1 for 1 after that.. nah jokes. Solid Video Jack, it's actually quite interesting experiment actually. 700 darts is a fair amount on both nights, I guess a lot of people don't realise how many they actually throw throughout a day in a tournament so plenty to consider there.

[@iangarratt5715]

Repeat this with beer the first night and soft drink the second

[@stevenfromleicester2529]

To be far didnt seem that big a difference and regardless of with or without acohol I think the 2and night was always going to have a higher average.

[@TheDartsReferee]

Yeah for me, practicing, it doesn't improve much, but in a match play scenario, because I get so nervous, my average goes down a lot without a drink, but stays around the same with a drink. I'll put 20 odd points onto my average in a match if I'm drinking

[@stevenfromleicester2529]

@@TheDartsReferee I've never drank in general. But like you suffer terribly with nerves. (Strange because years ago when I started playing I didnt). I Have noticed though sometimes if I drink a red bull or 2 on a match night I do tend to chillax and play alot better.

[@edgillis4686]

I’d like to request a bourbon 🥃 vs. beer 🍺 shootout comparison video next 😎👍🏻

[@kvajeblostari]

Nice, can u make a video about dart names for shots and all tthat stuff like double 20 is tops 170 big fish, shampagne shot and that kind dart names, i hear comentators sometimes have words like this, and i like that dart language 😀

[@robertrice9466]

What a great idea for a video 👍

[@Darts4544r4]

No contest, I’m better when drinking, confidence levels defo go up

[@medinabello19]

Sweet I've been requesting this video for ages.

[@TheDartsReferee]

I didn't want to do it from home, had to wait for the pubs to reopen! Not much of a drinker myself and rarely have a drink at home

[@medinabello19]

@@TheDartsReferee this experiment would only work in a comp. I play darts sober in comp and am shit. However after 2 pints I'm much better. When playing non comp I.e. at home sober I'm playing well.

[@medinabello19]

@@TheDartsReferee this experiment would only work in a comp. I play darts sober in comp and am shit. However after 2 pints I'm much better. When playing non comp I.e. at home sober I'm playing well.

[@zt7489]

For optimum performance - drink 5 pints!!! LOL!

[@romanreckless8263]

the beast is back!!!

[@smileyscooby99]

made for a decent video, your optimum number would be 4 pints right not 5, as you hit the 69 average at peak you had been consuming your 4th pint, or I might be going a bit nuts lol all your averages were pretty decent tbf Jack, deffo get in to playing again

[@jackhandy1626]

Really good video enjoyed this.

[@gaatjeniksaanneeechtniet639]

No beer = no darts 🍺🍺🍺

[@Annetekstra180]

How do pro’s do this?

[@michelledim]

you learn something new everyday in your next video can you try and hit a robin hood and see how many shots it will take you, love your vids(:

[@romanreckless8263]

why? it just screws up ur darts, and the other dart doesnt count to ur score... so nobody wants to hit a robinhood... ( I've done a double hood b4 with all three darts)... it's kinda cool and all, but again, doesnt count, and destroys it flights and mainly ur shafts

[@michelledim]

@@romanreckless8263 good point yea forget that idea

[@Burnstein209]

Hit the like if you actually did read these comments Darts Referee! Haha

[@benkofi8570]

Good vid Jack, do another reddit video soon

[@ryanb1802]

What a great excuse to have a few! Awesome video Jack. Time for a few for me.

[@chadylyc]

The video wasn't quite interesting, but i would love to see a 501 game between 2 drunk people that can be hilarious!, keep up the good hints to make us good players, following ur advices in previous videos are increasing my average!

[@thomassawford1102]

Just watch any darts match on TV. Almost every single one of them played drunk or minimum with a. Few drinks in them

[@peterharris3920]

You need to do the same test but play against someone . Now to make it a far test you need to play 3 different people first person that never plays darts second someone at your level and third way better then you . This will bring in to play game nerves . I find I'm more relaxed if I play someone that is better than me if I have a drink and I play better . But there is a limit where to much beer makes you play crap .

[@tobysmith2577]

Great vid mate love it

[@stephanjones8858]

I'd be nice to see this but actually playing games be it with or without an opponent as ur averages are margainly different but that's because the alcohol allows ur muscles to relax now throwing for doubles is a different story as ur aim will be slightly off

[@MrDavidp180]

Alcohol is naturally produced by the human body, it comes down to personal choice & not statistics

[@derek3249]

Heres to alcohol. The cause and solution to all of lifes problems. Homer Simpson

[@fercsikbotond]

Nice shoes Jack :D

[@TheDartsReferee]

Thanks!

[@ericzeigler8669]

I live in California. Could you do this experiment with marijuana and post your results? Thanks.

[@TheDartsReferee]

That's illegal here 😂😂

[@jon_because]

In the name of science. 🤣

[@TheDartsReferee]

True scientist me, all for your guys entertainment 😂

[@justinress2782]

If you have learned the game sober, you will be better with alcohol. If you haven't you will be worse.

[@romanreckless8263]

no...lol

[@adrianunderwood961]

A test like this has too many variables to tell you much at all. An improvement in the two nights could easily be attributed to the benefit of the sober practice you did on on that board on night one, a placebo effect, the fact that you usually play in that place while drinking and the drop off in performance on night two could easily be down to fatigue. I think it would be better to look at the scientifically proven effects of alcohol physiologically and cognitively in varying amounts and then work out whether these effects benefit or hinder darts performance.

[@ludvigdreng6315]

Please go ahead and do that for us 😊

[@jaysonlebron5591]

cool video mate . really enjoyed this one ! cheers...

[@TheLoStBoYs89]

I am kinda the same either way darts is awesome

[@edwardhayes5837]

Jesus imagine how good mvg would be pissed

[@Burnstein209]

Seen a video where he says he can't play well at all if he's had a drink!

[@edwardhayes5837]

@@Burnstein209 is it on KZbin

[@Burnstein209]

@@edwardhayes5837 Yeah I saw it on KZbin. I think it might be MVG interview with the bin man. Don't quite me in that tho, but I defo heard him say that he couldn't play if he's been drinking

[@Burnstein209]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/i5OWY3eLqKyhsMU

[@wakdcanuck2827]

I love alcohol and I love darts and I throw better when drinking and look better too

[@tonymatthew9659]

I dont drink alcohol but I find a joint or two or a bong help settle me ;-)

[@dangreene9846]

Not me I shoot terrible I don't smoke if I'm playing in a tournament but now when or if I get beat ,hey im up for it.

[@romanreckless8263]

ya weed definitely doesnt help me... throws off my balance at the oche

[@Dougout316]

Try pot next

[@graffbussiere4831]

Do this with weed

[@carnage18084]

If you NEED a few pints to play darts better you need a new mindset. I play better without these days and I love playing more. Fair enough if it's a night with your mates, but really if you're serious about darts practice and mentally prepare better. Simples

[@bobthesnobscotland2821]

TRY GETTING PISSED FIRST THEN PLAY DARTS.. NOT EASY

[@AtomicDarts]

Ok, so now we need one with how gin, then whiskey, then vodka, then wine effects your game.

[@tomasmorrissey7324]

Sure u hadn't a few making this video sounds a bit like it 🙈🤣🤣

[@davemuckeye]

Ouzo...

[@gavinharding8970]

Unfortunately all pro players cannot play at there best without alcohol.. FACT .

[@lrnzklm379]

Förster lol

[@jonny_0815]

First