How artillery works - Featuring the M777 Howitzer

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Artillery is known as the King of Battle for a reason. Artillery can be a force multiplier for any unit when they get into trouble.
The Forward Observer (FO) and the Fire Direction Center (FDC) work together to calculate how to get the artillery rounds to the target. The gun crew aims, and feeds the shells.
The M777 is currently in use by the US Army, US Marine Corps, Ukrainian Army, Canadian Army, Australian Army, Saudi Arabian Army and Indian Army.
Thank you to:
Specialist Jack Carrol
Sergeant Dietrich Culley
Sergeant Christopher Lamb
Captain Preston Stewart
And all of the other soldiers and Marines who wish to remain anonymous that helped make this video.
Any mistakes in this video are my own.
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Charlie Battery: A Marine Artillery Unit in Iraq
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"Prussian artillery under fire, Siegesfest 2017, Großbeeren (Brandenburg, Germany)" by Steffen Kamprath is licensed under CC BY-NC 2.0.
"Versailles: Château de Versailles - Galeries de L'Histoire de France - La galerie des Batailles - Bataille de Wagram" by wallyg is licensed under CC BY-NC-ND 2.0.
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"Soldiers with the Indian army fire their weapons during a room clearing demonstration at Chaubattia Military Station, India" by #PACOM is licensed under CC BY-NC-ND 2.0.
"A reenactment at Romsey in Hampshire of French soldiers during a skirmish in the Napoleonic wars" by Anguskirk is licensed under CC BY-NC-ND 2.0.
1169-Representacion de la Batalla de Elviñña (Coruña)by jl.cernadas
World War II Marine Corps Gun Crew Postcard 1942by Puzzler4879

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[@calebshonk5838]

I've been an artilleryman for 15 years. As soon as the call for fire got initiated, I got chills and a bit of an adrenaline rush.

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[@thefluffychild4619]

Why do we need to calculate altitude when VT fuses or proximity fuses exist Shirley we could just rely on them to do the work??

[@eddiereyna2998]

FIREMISSION!

[@eddiereyna2998]

PS he keeps calling the Howitzers a gun .

[@MD-vs9ff]

​@@thefluffychild4619 Becasue the location of the guns and target both exist in 3 dimensions. That means the gun's trajectory has to be calculated with 3d coordinates.

[@cgross82]

Speaking as a retired “Redleg” officer, this is pretty good! King of Battle! One slight correction: the altitude of the target is also necessary for accurate target location, as it changes the firing data, especially if the gun location and the target location are at different altitudes, which is usually the case. Remember, all of these calculations are in three dimensions. So, even if I as the Fire Direction Officer (FDO) am engaging the target with fuse PD (Point Detonating as opposed to timed fuse), I still need to include target altitude in my calculations. Also, the red patch on the charge one powder bag is actually a special propellant that lights more easily when the primer fires into it, thus setting the rest of the propellant on fire much quicker with more reliability.

[@trollmcclure1884]

Thanks. Now I want to know the math behind it. I've always thought that it's only the elevation of the barrel adjusting the distance. And that you have two options - to fire close to a 30 degree angle for a more direct hit, or to lift the barrel as long as the distance starts decreasing again and fire from above

[@chash7335]

@@trollmcclure1884 Distance (range) is determined by the amount of powder and tube elevation. There a number of charges, ranging from 1 to 7, I think- all charges (called out as charge 7) would give maximum range, charge one the shortest range.

[@kirahund6711]

@@trollmcclure1884 The shell travels in a ballistic arc, which is a sine wave (if it wasn''t for air resistance). If your target's elevation is different than the gun's elevation the impact would occur earlier or later, meaning the projectile will travel different horizontal distances. That's why elevations are important. Oversimplified example: If the gun barrel was firing at 45 degrees up the incoming round would (in theory, totally disregarding air resistance and other real world influences) descend in a 45 degree angle on the target. if the target is 1000 meters lower than the gun's elevation the round would roughly travel 1000 meters more horizontally and fly for 1400 meters longer, meaning the time fuze would have to be adjusted for that duration, too. Throw in all the real world sources of error and influences like wind, air and gun and propellant temperature, weather, coriolis force, variations in propellant weight and projectile mass, slight errors in gun adjustment ect. a first round hit becomes very unlikely. That's why the point of aim of the gun is adjusted after the first few rounds.

[@gregorycolella5055]

@@kirahund6711 a parabola isn’t a sine wave. Ballistic trajectories come from a constant acceleration down due to gravity, so a constant 2nd derivative, so it’s a quadratic curve/ parabola

[@kirahund6711]

@@gregorycolella5055 You are correct.

[@haymaker710]

That radio reminded me of my old signal days in the 82nd Signal Battalion.

[@davidnache4937]

Enjoyed this… u had me flashing back! 3rd Battalion, 12th Marines 1972. 105’s. No computers in those days… all maps and grids. Thanks.

[@RBBSFBH]

as a former artillery man I watched this video to see how accurate it would be. you put a lot of work into this video and it really shows. I appreciate you showing some love to the king of battle. great video!

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Same here man

[@operation4wheelz]

Still not all correct though… ok for the layman though

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[@silentblackhole]

Love that “Artillery was the final argument of Kings”!

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[@steadmanuhlich6734]

Preston, One thing I would like some clarification on is the difference in the use of terms "Splash Out" and "Splash Over." Please explain how those are different. My understanding of it is that "Splash Out" is said by the battery to let the soldiers who called in artillery know the round has been fired, and "Splash Over" is when that round is observed impacting (exploding) on or near target. Is that correct? Or is there more to it? What is the proper protocol for using those terms? Also, thanks for contributing to this very good video. Ryan did a great job on it and it is nice that he had you and others collaborating with him. I will check out your channel too.

[@PrestonStewart]

@@steadmanuhlich6734 Good question man. When the round is fired the battery sends 'shot, over' and the observer replies 'shot, out'. When the round is five seconds to impact the battery will give 'splash, over' to which the observer replies 'splash, out'. Shot is to let the FO know the round has been fired and splash is for them to get ready to observe, especially in the event they're having to take cover and can't keep eyes on target at all times.

[@billpola]

I was a 13A with an M109A3 thru 6 battalion for 14 years. I held forward observer, FDC, operational, and staff positions. This is the best, simplest, and most accurate description of indirect fire operations I've seen on KZbin. Thanks so much for your hard work on this. I especially like the golf analogy at the beginning. I used to use a "throwing rocks at cans" example, but this one works better.

[@13ECHO20]

King of Battle! (HSB 1/321, C 2/17, A 2/320, B 4/29)

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I found the officers. 13B here,M109A6 Pa-Pa-Paladin !!

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13A and former 13B here... favorite time in the Army was a gun bunny... favorite officer time as an FSO. Accurate video with a few mistakes but only a nitpicky few. Great video!

[@BSJ-VT]

Well done! I haven't been on a fire mission since the late 80's. Wasn't expecting it, but I got an adrenaline rush hearing the calls again. THANKS! (13B)

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Truth... My last was in Aug 1996. Missing it too...

[@AdamInglisNanaimo]

Thanks for this one. My grandfather was a Forward Observation Officer with the 19th Canadian Army Field Regiment Royal Canadian Artillery (RCA) in WWII. It was nice to see what his role was actually like (less the computers).

[@brianeleighton]

Back then it really WAS "charts and darts" lol When I served in the Artillery, I had a couple of friends who were forward observers. We couldn't be the "Kings of Battle" without our FOs, they make everything go.

[@gryph01]

I was a number 2 on a gun, then moved to Recce. Ubique!

[@mikelangland9858]

As a former redleg 13BA1 from the 80's I need to thank you for such a great explanation of how a firemission works. Very well done Sir Thank You!

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As an old Redleg I have to say well done for a Ground Pounder. 😅 In a long ago past life I was a FIST Team Leader, FDO, XO, BC, FSO, and FA battalion S-4. You've done a great job explaining something very technical in a way most anyone can understand. At the risk if dating myself I was a charts and darts guy. We had an early model computer for fire direction, called the FADAC, but it was deadlined more than it was up so we relied on charts and darts. The TACFIRE system came online my last year on active duty.

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Were Confederate artillery officers also called “Rednecks”?

[@anthonysammartino1654]

Yeah! That FADAC. I was a radio mechanic in the Army and made the "Mistake" Of taking the FADAC repair course. That locked me into Field artillery my whole career. Never saw one after the school! I spent most of my time in Paladin outfits. Those were interesting guns but I never took an interest in them. It was a blessing because they always told me I would be carrying the backpack radio (PRC_77) if I ended up in an infantry outfit.

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[@nat3_849]

In 13j school they are told to double check with charts and darts still if time permits

[@mikew1978]

As a former Army field artillery crew member, you taught me a lot. We never learned anything about how FDC worked. I was in a self propelled M109A6 and never realized I did the job of about 4 guys on a towed crew lol

[@Seth9809]

Yeah, I noticed that self-propelled guns have a lot less people.

[@DFPercush]

Just curious, do you have to assemble the rounds on those self propelled guns also? Or do you have an assortment of different fuses and such already pre loaded?

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I spent 29 years total in Air Traffic, and never knew the reason we were taught "Say again" except it was standardized phraseology that meant other standard phraseology would not sound the same. Now I know why. That and "Readback" were two critical terms that will drilled into you from the beginning such that you didn't even question it. Awesome background!

[@chrisc1140]

I spent 5 years doing military HF radio, and as someone who DID know why you don't say "repeat," and drilled it into the guys I trained, it really annoyed me how often the *pilots* would be the ones messing that up

[@Picla_Peremohy]

I’ve been out over 30 years and still use “Say again” instead of “repeat”

[@garbo8962]

Learned that only artillery were allowed to say " Repeat ". Used walkie talkies on my job for over 40 years and NEVER said repeat or like my AIT sargent told us besides a sky king award we would get a well deserved kick in TBE ass if we ever said " Roger, over & out ".

[@JC_Musician]

As a 29-year Army Reservist, this gives me chills! I love your analogy of artillery is like playing golf blindfolded! I’ve never seen a more thorough, easy to follow, and memorable storytelling of how exactly a US Army Field Artillery Battery functions! Ooshaaa whoa! 💜

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[@war_pig]

FDC chief here, Iraq 2004, 2007. We did all the calculations, ranging, elevation and traverse by hand. We confirmed our calculations using a computer. Call for fire was sent in by a forward observer or a sniper team. We did the math, sent it to the guns, and boom. The only time we did it different was when we had a counter-battery mission from a radar point of origin.

[@cgross82]

This is very interesting! I am glad to hear that manual gunnery is still alive and well!

[@swaghauler8334]

13Bravo on an 8" SP M110 '88 to '92. Our FDC was so good they could do the math faster than our old BCS (Ballistic Computing System) could do it. Nothing like dropping 200lbs of ICM-DP on a bunch of Republican Guards.

[@nortiusmaximus1789]

@@swaghauler8334 13-E on 8" SPs & 175mm SPs 70-71. We had a first generation FADAC (Field Artillery Digital Analytical Computer) Our FDC also did the math by hand. The FADAC sometimes got it right, when it worked.

[@donavonrobbins1908]

@@swaghauler8334 what Battalion were you with when shooting those RGs?

[@Glittersword]

@@swaghauler8334 I was in Alpha Battery 3/21st Out of Fort Polk 84'-85'. FDC. Also an 8" unit. We went out to the National training center while I was there and we're using our 8" Howitzers in Direct Fire missions. Big Guns Big Fun.

[@jonlee3988]

From a former army attack pilot...excellent video. You made a complex action simple for those not in artillery to understand. More videos like this would be awesome to see.

[@ladislavjuric]

Totally agree. And I was amazed how much resources and sources are he used todo this. Awesome.

[@SgtAl]

I was FDC in the Marine Corps 1979 - 1983 and in the National Guard from 2001- 2009. Your video is the most accurate and comprehensive description of field artillery I have ever seen. Good job and thanks.

[@demonicalex25633]

It's fascinating how much work goes into this. I never even knew it was this intricate.

[@PrestonStewart]

Good crews make it look fast and easy but so many little steps to get to that point!

[@ubahfly5409]

Yeah, he did a great job on this, but let's not forget all the work of our troops !

[@veselinjokanovic3032]

@@PrestonStewart Never knew you were an artillery officer. Big fan of your content here. :)

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@@veselinjokanovic3032 same

[@tistelnilsson]

Intricate and extreamly reliable. Need to be accurate even on the 3333:th shell.

[@CharliMorganMusic]

I used to be Marine LAAD. We did a lot of training with the artillery and the coolest thing I ever did was call for fire. There was this set of "binoculars," but describing it as such would be an incredible understatement. One would simply look through them and immediately receive a firing solution. Of course, this was doulbe-cross-checked with GPS and math by the gun crews, but the amount of firepower available to one person is truly incredible. I finished the call for fire and waited. Maybe it was 30 seconds or a minute (the guns were relatively close), and the entire target area exploded. I'd never seen anything like that before. FOs and JTACs must be the coolest people in the entire military.

[@axelb.2854]

FOs wants the enemy kill first. But I admit that the result is pretty impressive. I was FO during the 90s and we had 5 M109 in our battery. I am really wondering of the accuracy of modern artillery. Before Ukraine I did not catch up about the new technologys.

[@donaldtireman]

@@axelb.2854 Though not exactly certain of the actual accuracy, being retired Navy, it's been reputed that an Iowa class battleship engaging a fortified enemy gun position with its 16" guns could send an armor piercing round on target and then send a high explosive round through the hole the previous shell made

[@Adventuregirl96]

I have a friend that is in the Artillery, and this helped a Coastie understand better what she does.

[@roberthart6434]

Your best video yet. Very detailed, very accurate. The Infantry- Artillery team is a beautiful thing. From one retired infantry platoon sergeant to another, Lead The Way!

[@RyanMcBethProgramming]

Thank you.

[@brianeleighton]

There is a reason our two MOSs are called the King and Queen of Battle. We in the artillery couldn't function without our forward observers, and I am sure having overwhelming artillery support is pretty useful to the line troops in the Infantry.

[@mattnsac]

@@brianeleightonThe only thing infantry likes better than arty on target is an A10 or a JDAM

[@darrellkimmel2646]

​@@RyanMcBethProgramming This was really good. Thank you.

[@MrAdamdot]

Best description of calling in a fire mission I’ve EVER watched, demystifying the black art of warfare 🙏🏻👍🏼

[@1tonyboat]

👍👍

[@kenny4540]

I was a 13 Bravo in the early 80's. I really enjoyed your video. Thanks

[@jillstaley1278]

That was fantastic. This really helps keep non military to understand just what our service does. It's not a cake walk. Thank you again.

[@RyanMcBethProgramming]

Thank you so much. I had a parent tell me "Now I know what my son does." That really makes all the hard work worth it.

[@williamlloyd3769]

Comments from a shipmate who served as an Naval Gunfire Liaison Officer (NGLO): That video was great. A lot has changed since my time in the charts and darts era. Naval Gunfire uses degrees instead of mils because the shell is so much bigger and the muzzle velocity so much higher, the resultant explosion is so much larger. I was still in 105 era. I got to go work on a gun crew a couple of times. The crew was only five and you could effectively operate with just four gun crew. Loading and firing was much simpler than on the M777. In the FDC there were no computers. The young Marines used specialized slide rules. They were insanely good with math.

[@LowenKM]

Yep, as a former Fire Control Technician in the Navy during the Vietnam War, when targeting 'computers' were still all-mechanical and glorified adding machines... it's incredible how much the tech has improved since then. Though it's always seemed even more amazing how they still manage to make the many 'variables' affecting the chemistry of an explosive charge so consistent and 'predictable'!

[@dynamo3059]

how would round velocity matter? a degree still gives a certain amount of error at a certain distance. now im curious how far off degrees are at the ranges that naval guns fire at

[@jamesrussell7760]

Back in my day in a USMC 105mm artillery battery, we had 6 guns. And I was in the FDC (MOS 0844). We didn't have those fancy computers, so we used charts to get the azimuth and range. From the range, we got the needed elevation and charge (number of powder bags). Azimuth, elevation and charge is sent to gun #1 by sound-power telephone and the #1 gun fires one round. The forward observer is alerted, shot out, then radios back the correction, 50 down, 50 left, fire for effect. Now all 6 guns dial in the data and fire 3 rounds, each, as fast as they can load and 18 rounds obliterate the target. Normally, we never see the explosions, the target being in defilade. But on one memorable occasion on maneuvers at Ft. Bragg with units of 155mm howitzers, 8-inch howitzers, 4-duce mortars plus our 105mm howitzers participated in a time-on-target. That's where all weapons fire at a calculated time so that all shells land at the same time! I think we must have blown about 10 feet off the top of that hill! It was a glorious sight - every cannon cocker in the battery went ballistic with cheers!

[@brianmartindale2221]

My dad trained artillery units at Ft Carson during the Korean conflict. I got to hear all of this growing up when all I wanted to do was play baseball. It's funny how much of it I retained and how much I now appreciate it. I think he would have been impressed with the accuracy of the targeting these days. Gives me a chance to appreciate him again. Thank you.

[@Picla_Peremohy]

I was up at Red Devil at Ft. Cartoon. Small world

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[@tequilastraightup595]

As a Engineer, we loved watching Artillery in action. We knew every round sent down range, was hellfire on the bad guys. So satisfying seeing those cannons belching fire and smoke.

[@ExSoldier762]

Speaking as a former infantry captain and having friends that are branched artillery, I can only compare the artillery call for fire as BLACK MAGIC. Here’s the real process: 1. The Warrior perceives the distant threat. 2. He consults the sacred scroll (topographic map) to determine the first part of the incantation he must utter. 3. Getting the first set of eight sacred numbers, he must then determine the range to give… and in the old days, that was an eyeball estimate, but now, they can be determined by laser rangefinder. Second set of sacred numbers. 3. Then he orders his scribe to contact the oracle via UHF or possibly digital burst, encrypted. 4. The Warrior Chief reverently utters the sacred incantations as shown in the video, a communication of massive obliteration to be rained down upon the heads of thine enemies. If you’ve gotten the initial incantation correct, that’s exactly what happens. 5. If you’ve screwed the pooch just a bit, then you must adjust the fires of God to move the fiery death upon your enemy. 6. The FINAL part of that Final Incantation is FIRE FOR EFFECT, over.

[@bluephoenix7565]

You then humbly sit back and watch in awe as what were mere moments ago your accursed foes become reduced to little more than dust to be trod upon by your worn boots as you search their remains for souveni- KNOWLEDGE of enemy intent or capabilities.

[@rfak7696]

And it is not? In the eyes of our ancestors, the fighting way of modern man is indistinguishable from the wrath of gods.

[@matthewgibbs6886]

let us not forget to call upon the divine time on target gods just to be sure the enemy has been smited

[@kayauke13]

İts like Warhammer40k grimdarklike

[@stanielb2005]

I like to think I'm LARPing as a fire wizard when I delete grid squares.

[@eugeneasmakov2251]

As a Ukrainian I appreciate the explanation of operation of these hell machines our boys calling "Triple axle (777)" at the frontline and sounds like it sure does its job.

[@billelliott6396]

We Marines are all for you

[@katrinchernyavska7407]

correction on nickname: Triple Axe, not axle

[@Picla_Peremohy]

Слава Україні! Слава Героям!

[@JohnTavastian]

A proud artillery man right here. I served in the Finnish Defense Forces and my unit was trained for the 155 K 83-97. It's a labour intensive gun but really help our guys in the front if we ever need to go that far. If it wasn't for those guys in the front giving us information we would be nothing, and I'm sure they are more than happy to get our help😁 My primary job was to load the primer, which ignites the propellant. My second job is the section chief. I was taking in fire orders and just seeing that everything went as it should. From my primary job I had to learn how the firing mechanism worked and how it was maintained and from the section chief role I learned how the gun was supposed to work. So I knew the gun pretty well down to the bone.

[@RyanMcBethProgramming]

What a fantastic story. Thank you so much.

[@houseplant1016]

Damn

[@NopiasTopias]

"Guy from the front" here. 155 certainly was the better pipe what came to actual effectiveness and as a bonus, it made a much more satisfying explosion than the smaller 122 guns.

[@JohnTavastian]

@@NopiasTopias We never got to see the explosion with the 155. We could only hear it from about 12 kilometers away (7 miles). Kinda crazy how we could hear it fly, then it gets silent for a second and then a faint explosion. We did see the explosion for the 122 we used for a bit. We were doing direct fire to some tank targets, it was really cool. i got some videos as well.

[@karisalonen8984]

That Gen. Nenonen did know something about indirect fire.

[@stefanandersson9616]

Thank you for finaly confirming (and in detail describing) what I have suspected but not been sure of since childhood.

[@bartphlegar8212]

Ryan, you have a masterful way of presenting the broad spectrum of military functions - many of them considered "grunt" level - and detail the amount of math, physics, and high-level communications (say nothing of the responsibility) required to make these units work. Even specialists from other operations often don't give enough credit to the others, so it's great that you manage to share these skillsets and give us all an appreciation for every soldier, Marine, sailor, airman, and Coastie out there...Hooah!...

[@CKPill]

Amen

[@SeriouslyCool]

😢😮😢😮😮

[@SeriouslyCool]

🎉😅😢9😢😮

[@SeriouslyCool]

😮😮😅😮😢😅🎉🎉🎉🎉?😮😮😢

[@DEtchells]

Wow, what a *fantastic* job of explaining exactly how artillery works! This was by far the best military “explainer” video I’ve seen anywhere on the ‘web! You have a real gift for explaining military matters in a clear and entertaining way. (Great scriptwriting, there isn’t a wasted word anywhere, 👍😁)

[@RyanMcBethProgramming]

Thank you. I really appreciate that.

[@renaissanceredneck73]

Mr. Mcbeth you could have a career in writing, this soo reminded me of some Clancy stuff I've read. I know you are a fan as well so you know the compliment that is lol.

[@ZhekUA]

But artillery duels are totally different

[@JonBrown-po7he]

Your explanation makes very clear how difficult the infantryman's job is. Kudos to the infantry and you Ryan.

[@bobjoatmon1993]

As a US Navy vet I found this very informative. Thank you all who helped make it possible.

[@Wormhole798]

It's been 40 years since I was an artillery officer. (FO) The commands have changed slightly over the years, and the equipment upgraded, to include the cannon. But the basic concept is still the same. You illustrated out how artillery functions in good detail. Excellent video. 😊

[@5x535]

Very well done. I served as FO, FDO, and XO in the late 60s in 105, 155, 8-inch, and 175mm units. It was the time when everything went from manual computations to the magic of FADAC. It was a courts-martial offense for the battalion commander to try and use the generator that the FADC had assigned to it. That is just how special that Big Box was. Lots of memories. We took ourselves "out" one night during a critical fire mission. We had to pull the long tubes up off their blocks and relay them. We did it in the dark without much thought about where the shock wave from a zone three mission was going to go. After the third round, the FDC was in shambles; chart tables, radios, the lights, and much of the sandbag roof was on the floor, and we could not even tell battalion what had happened. Guess who showed up at first light? He had wings on his collar. I love that shit!

[@istantinoplebullconsta642]

FADAC - I hated that thing. I was FDC in the 1980's National Guard and we were charts and darts until we started getting the hand-me-down FADAC from the Regular Army. I was #1 on charts and darts and so I ran the show - until my slower buddy got trained on FADAC. After that, I was always a couple of seconds behind that fkn FADAC. It got boring scratching my nuts all day, trying to look useful. But during the annual ARTEPs the Reg. Army testers would occasionally call out "FADAC DOWN" - that's when I had my half-hour to an hour of fun being the ONE.

[@5x535]

@@istantinoplebullconsta642 I am still in contact with a couple of the guys from that "special" time of my life. One of them was "The Man'"(you) who really "got" what all those computations were doing. Without "Philly," they would have hauled me off. I am thankful that you both were on the job.

[@mattiasfagerlund]

I was an artilleryman for a 10 month stint in about 1993 - a redleg if that nickname is appropriate for someone who's not in the US Armed Forces. Anyway, I would aim and fire a 15.5cm Howitzer but ours was hydraulic - so no spinning of wheels. One lever to turn left/right, one for elevation and a foot pedal to fire. We could also prepare four projectiles in advance on a winched tray so they'd quickly drop into the breach using more hydraulics. We'd drop cotton(?) bags of different load combinations in exactly the way you describe, depending on how far the projectile was expected to travel. We had something that looked like a shell casing, though, for the propellant. A big brass bottom plug and something that looked like fiber glass sides. The propellant went into the "casing" so we could prep several for quick firing. It really looked like a large shotgun shell. Lieutenant

[@billelliott6396]

I loved firing the 105 as am A gunner

[@WeaponObsession]

From a current FDC Marine, very good video. However, we do still use “charts and darts” in our daily operations, mostly as a backup to our AFATDS. But we can and do shoot just from charts, occasionally. We still need this capability because like you said, computers go down at the worst time.

[@soarabove337]

As a former grunt, I’m glad to hear the C&D still works. Yanno, when the electric goes out, it’s still nice to know the cashier can make change. 🫡

[@cgross82]

Right! Gotta be able to put hot steel on target, no matter what!

[@straitjacket8689]

Who are you with ?I was a long time ago in Hotel 3/10

[@WeaponObsession]

@@straitjacket8689 Charlie 1/10

[@cgross82]

@@straitjacket8689 I started out with 2-150 FA, INARNG. Then I transferred to C/1-246 FA, VAARNG. Then later was S-4 for 1-161FA, KSARNG, and finally was BN and later BDE FSO with 2-122 FA, Chicago, ILARNG. My final FS job was as BDE FSCOORD, 404MEB, Chicago, ILARNG. Retired 2012.

[@southerncross4956]

Ryan, after reading a number of the commits I know you are feeling the respect. Thank you for your work.

[@thehotdogman9317]

15:25 Fun fact: Artillery teams aren't the only ones who use mills when aiming their guns. Sniper rifle scopes also have small dot markings that refer to mills when accounting for bullet drop.

[@bob_the_bomb4508]

ALL compasses in the British Army are graded in Mils. There are 6400 Mils in a circle and one Mil subtends approximately 1 metre at one kilometre distance. A single degree subtends nearly 20 metres so is far less accurate.

[@senatorjosephmccarthy2720]

Even scopes on airguns shooting as slow as, say 720 fps use milradian adjustment demarcations.

[@lzh4950]

@@bob_the_bomb4508 I read it as mili-radians, & I imagine by knowing it can be read that way & that a circle/complete revolution makes an angle of 2π radians, its easier to calculate more accurately that 1 Mil subtends (2π*1000)/6400=0.9817m (with circumference = 2π*radius of 1km & 1km = 1000m)

[@bob_the_bomb4508]

@@lzh4950 you’re completely right and I once pointed it out, to my map reading instructors when I was in basic training. It didn’t go down well, as nobody loves a smartass! Several press-ups were involved IIRC… :) The point being that, given all the other inaccuracies involved in mapping (such as ‘cartographic licence’, magnetic variations and just your hand shaking) 1 mil is a metre at 1 k is good enough… :)

[@bob_the_bomb4508]

@ECN019 absolutely :)

[@aidanhammer6968]

Think this is the first time I'm setting a KZbin video to notify me when it comes out. Me and half my friends are in love with your channel Ryan!

[@RyanMcBethProgramming]

I appreciate that - work on the other half.

[@aidanhammer6968]

@@RyanMcBethProgramming Keep up the content and I won't even have to!

[@frenzalrhomb6919]

You don't have many friends, then? Is that what you're saying?

[@benjerman4438]

@@frenzalrhomb6919 maybe half his friends are lady friends and don't care much about boy stuff.

[@cookiecola5852]

@@benjerman4438, even the ladiest lady that ever ladied

[@colindayton8951]

King of Battle for no other reason than pure and total victory! USMC 0811 1991-1998 "A ballet of chaos" is the perfect description of gun crew operations. Well done, and great video. Thanks for the trip down memory lane! I can almost smell the gunline.

[@shawnadams1460]

This was a GREAT explanation!! I was in the Navy, but because we were in drydock for an extended 19 month overhaul for our carrier they stationed us at Fort Eustis. I met a Corporal who was in artillery but when he resigned went into helicopter maintenance, he used to always joke that even with a helicopter engine running right next to him it was still quieter than training was in artillery...lol.

[@Hathur]

Great video Ryan, was super informative and really well done presentation. My grandpa was an artillery observer / forward observer in WW2 so it was fascinating to get an idea how this all works (minus the modern tech of computers of course).

[@LowVoltage_FPV]

I was an artilleryman in the 70's and did pretty much every job except gun sergeant. Our battery was firing the 105 towed. I was in the command post calculating the solution most of the time. At that time we were using slide rules and plotting boards which was pretty cool. The computers were just being introduced when I was moved to the observation point. I had the opportunity to call some fire missions which was cool. Also we did some direct fire missions which was rather impressive. Things have not changed much other then the computers replacing the plotter boards.

[@deddrunc5591]

I was a cannon crew member for 9 years. This really brought me back. Great video brother!

[@BenFaffler]

is it a disputed position to be artillery?

[@deddrunc5591]

@@BenFaffler No just more formal. Like infantry man vs grunt.

[@stevenmajicmike]

@@deddrunc5591 do you recommend artillery? How was your experience in the 13b mos ? Promotions within it and so forth ? Did it transfer out well to the civilian sector?

[@deddrunc5591]

@@stevenmajicmike it was an amazing experience, but transfers poorly to the civilian side. Promotion potential is very individual based.

[@shanelahousse3344]

I appreciate the detailed sequence and the layman terms explanation. Great example of the teamwork and how every soldier has their part in the mission, no more no less team members included to get the job done.

[@shadyel]

I was an officer (leutenent) in italian artillery, radio and communications expert, and confirm that same procedures are used in italian artillery. Long life to you.

[@gaijinph]

I really like watching artillery videos in YT, something about the harmony between material science, the math and sending a round down range gets me excited (maybe because I used to shoot for a precision firing team back in my ROTC days). The way you narrate and explain things here makes it much more exciting and interesting. Good job. If we had this back then, we would have been more attentive to the lectures of our Tac-O's

[@RyanMcBethProgramming]

Thank you.

[@AnimaCorpus]

As a former Redleg of 6 1/2 years, HOOAH. I love seeing this kind of stuff. I was very proud to be an artilleryman during my time in the Army. Field artillery, King of battle. That aside. You hit this nail on the head. Having served on M119A2, M777, and M109A6, the procedures are very similar between them, with some minor differences between them, but you got the M777 spot on. A bullet is addressed to individuals, artillery is to whom it may concern, Himars is CC:ALL. Keep up the stellar videos, its always nice to see your vids pop up in my feed.

[@nortiusmaximus1789]

@@AnimaCorpus I remember going into the FDC Classroom reading, "The Best Damn Artillery In The World - No Brag, Just Fact" over the front of the room. We believed it then; it is believed Now. I got a big laugh from the commentary: "A bullet is addressed to individuals, artillery is to whom it may concern, Himars is CC:ALL"'.

[@tomabl1]

This was a great video! My father was an FO with Patton's 3rd Army Yankee Division and directed many a mission as they advanced across France and then made the famous turn to relieve Bastogne. Captured German's often told him the 2 things they feared most were...Army artillery and British bayonet charges.

[@jondavidmcnabb]

This is probably the most concise and best video on US artillery operations on the internet. Well Done sir, well done.

[@rb2287]

Ryan, this was superbly done. This is from someone who was not in the military, but understands the basic concepts. What I like most about this video is that none of it is possible without EVERYONE doing their part in the military machine. That means the guys driving the trucks with the equipment. The guys feeding the rest of the team. The guys providing medical care. The guys providing training and on and on. To say that it is complex is a grand understatement. From the outside looking in, please know that I truly appreciate you and everyone else in our military. Because of your commitment and dedication, my family, friends and I have always slept peacefully with the knowledge that no matter what job one possesses in the military, it is important and it is appreciated. I am certain that our allies are equally appreciative with the knowledge that if called to defend them, they will receive the very best the United States military forces has to offer.

[@techienate]

You, sir, are a brilliant communicator. Your videos are very dense with information while still being told in an entertaining story format.

[@charsbob]

Clearest explanation of artillery operations I've ever seen or heard. Thank you for making a complex operation understandable.

[@chukwow5738]

Ryan, I really can’t put words on how much I appreciate this video! Informative and very well produced. I could even feel the drama/action

[@ladislavjuric]

Brilliant indeed.

[@waynez1025]

Well said

[@justapedn1]

Welcome done, Ryan. I was a submarine torpedo fire control technician. I found this informative and riveting. Clear and concise. A true story well told. Outstanding!

[@gunchief0811]

Great Video, I served 21 years in U.S.M.C. Field Artillery as a Gun section chief Loved it. {hearing isn't the same} but it was a good Job. { BEST JOB IV'E EVER HAD} Semper FI.

[@hemetelectricalservices]

13B 92 to 94 Air Assault M198 Fort Campbell KY. Great video! Very accurate and kind of got me all fired up! You actually taught me something....The swabbing procedure, in my mind, was to keep the carbon or soot out of the breach area. Ember extinguishment makes WAY more sense to me now, cause those pellets burn SUPER clean. PFC Laskowski here. C Battery 5/8 F.A.R CRUSADERS 1st Platoon Gun 4 Led by SSG Vaughn

[@Alomtancos]

This. Is. Sooo. Educational. Thank you for letting us peek into how complex this all is. Makes me appreciate uniforms even more...

[@StevenWilkesStevesBrewshop]

I was a 13B in the mid ‘80s. B1/5 FA, B2/21 FA and C1/142FA. That’s the best and most concise explanation of how an artillery battery puts a round down range I’ve heard. Excellent!

[@doughudgens9275]

I’m going to be nitpicking, but in the 80’s, Artillery used the term elevation and not quadrant. The gunners quadrant was a combination protractor and level to set on the breach top to verify the sights were set to the correct elevation. We also had a variable time fuse that had a small radar so you could set the projectile to explode X many meters above the ground. It was more accurate than a time fuse, but more expensive for the Army. Overall, this was the best description of artillery that I have seen on KZbin, and I thank you for doing it!

[@rojodogg]

FO in the 80's always called for the type of round he wanted used. HE, WP or VT. Was always fun when the FDC screwed up or the gun bunnies. Was always tought that you had to adjust fire first, you would never get permission to FFE on 2 adjustment rounds. You need to bracket the target.

[@cgross82]

I hate to burst your bubble, but I graduated from FAOBC at Ft. Sill in 1986, and all of our gunnery instructors called it QE, quadrant elevation, or just quadrant for short.

[@doughudgens9275]

@@cgross82 I did FAOBC in ‘81 and I remember using elevation. They may have changed the term between our trips to Ft Sill. As I qualified in my original comment, the term then was different. Doesn’t mean the term wasn’t changed after my time.

[@cgross82]

@@doughudgens9275 Fair enough. As long as everyone concerned knows what it means, it doesn’t matter.

[@straitjacket8689]

We in the Marines in the 80s used quadrant and deflection

[@morganbush2332]

Good stuff! I was a mortar FDC in the National Guard for several years. “Redleg” is the traditional in-house nickname for artillery.

[@Nevyn42]

Interesting. Had to look it up : from the red trouser stripe formerly part of the Artillery uniform

[@demodic7221]

Mortar? That’s not a gun bunny. Unless you count the 119 as a mortar lol.

[@clyd1206]

I was a 0811 section chief in the Marine Corps. You did a terrific job breaking down how things works on the gunline. Best Ive seen tbh. Good job.

[@ryanhampson673]

Excellent breakdown! I was Army EOD 2007-2017 and went out to mop up the rounds that didn’t go off or the occasional stuck round in a gun barrel.. In Afghanistan I had the “honor” of driving my Gator (gas powered golf cart) in front of a 155 right when it fired. There were behind a heavy barrier but man..I couldn’t hear out of my left ear for about a week. Good times.

[@nortiusmaximus1789]

Ryan Hampson I had a good chuckle from your 155 blast experience. In Vietnam, members of my battery loved to go stand about 20-30 feet in front of one of our 175s when firing. The blast could blow you back 5 or 6 feet and leave your head ringing. Cheap Thrills!!

[@TraderTimmy]

Great job! Really enjoyed this. My father was on a fire control team for howitzers back in the Korean War. He’s told me a few stories and described a bit about his time there. Thank you for all your attention to detail.

[@mikewhiskey5455]

“Artillery adds dignity, to what would otherwise be an ugly brawl” Frederick the Great.

[@ltcdave]

Well done! Being a FDO (fire direction officer) was one of the best jobs ever. Thanks for the memories.

[@michaelmacdowall4228]

RM, Thank you so much for your quality content. As always you are professional and informative, and your editing is crisp. The time and effort you put in doesn’t go unnoticed . Thank you for the long-format video. I appreciate your perspective on ongoing conflicts internationally and your willingness to share it here on KZbin. Keep up the Great Work!

[@Cdr_Mansfield_Cumming]

Ryan, mate. Thank you and those who also helped in setting the fire mission routine on here.

[@tetleydidley]

This is a masterpiece. I learnt so much. Thank you. I've gained a new level of appreciation of and respect for the things the military does and I understand the phrase "thank you for your service" a little bit better now.

[@merten0083]

Incredible video, I was always used to just left clicking my artillery in RTS games telling them to 'fire pos' on the map, I have great appreciation for artillery usage after watching this

[@Gungnir762]

Feeling the impact from a mile away.. warms the heart… always pray FDC didn’t use your position as the target

[@randyswenson9575]

Probably the best youtube video I have seen! Great format, perfect mix of history and details. Your enthusiasm and respect for the topic and people shines through. Great Job!

[@fragout9575]

Thank you for giving us FOs and follow Gun Bunnies the proper respect and thorough description of our missions! Suggest the next version include JTAC, TACPs and Combat Controllers and the multi-branch crossover of them!! Carry On! RLTW!

[@BlackBear15909]

Thanks! This brought back some memories as a 13C, from 1991-2000, and being an FDC section chief.

[@Apollo-p1l]

That was very cool. Looked for artillery targetting info for a while on youtube and this is easily the best ive seen.

[@xs-1b415]

This is your most awesome video, by far. Keep it up, the passion was there, the knowledge was there, the pride was there. It was a joy to watch.

[@WKWenzEnterprises]

Years ago I was in an army reserve unit of M110 howitzers. I loved the cadence call of a fire mission. We used slightly different calls for parts of the sequence, the ones called out by the RTO were called back to the RTO. We were not very good soldiers but were very good artillerymen. I really enjoyed this video Ryan. Big thanks!

[@NeilWaybright]

This made me remember my Navy days on the Naval Gunfire Support (NGFS) range doing NGFS training missions with our 5-inch (127mm) gun and escorting the battleship New Jersey as she did NGFS missions with her 16-inch (406mm) guns. A 406mm HE round was an awesome thing to behold, even from 10 or more miles away...

[@Maritimesgestein]

And those 16-inch guns can shoots every 30 seconds which is just crazy

[@donavonrobbins1908]

Was always disappointed as an F.O., we never got to shoot Navy, though we practiced calling their version of a fire mission. Did get to do a little close air support, though.

[@edwardsummey8843]

I was in FDC for 13 years, starting my career with "Charts and Darts"' while ballistic computers (for the army) was in its infancy. I miss doing manual Fire Missions. It just felt more pure to me than typing on a keyboard. By the time I left, we were fully computerized in the FDC and on the guns. Of course, using the computer made our data and our fires much more accurate. but what is the fun in FA unless you need to adjust your rounds onto target? By the way, the amount of guns in a battery varies based on the caliber of the guns. An old 8-inch gun battery was 4 guns in a single platoon. the Self Propelled M109A3 guns was a 8 gun battery divided into 2 platoons of 4, but that was dropped to 6 guns (in 2 3 gun platoons) when the Paladin and M777 premiered and the gun line became computerized. I was never in a 105mm battery, but out computer software was built able to accept up to 12 guns, so maybe that is the answer.

[@marko11kram]

the best description of a fire mission

[@TrevorAwesomeness]

Can’t wait, I’m very interested with this man’s knowledge about the fundamentals of warfare.

[@timothyhansen8798]

Thank you for your hard work this was excellent. I work In a field mantiance shop for the wisconsin army national guard. I have done yearly services on m 777 and learned about the parts of the gun. Your class on how all of it is used made it very clear how it all comes together and the skill and team worked needed for a fire mission.

[@emg910728]

Mad memories of calling fire missions from my M1A1 turret over 20 years ago. It still feels reflexive. Thx

[@veizour]

Absolutely WOW, man. I'm sharing this everywhere. This is absolutely epic. Veteran MP here, but this is something I never got to see up close. Thanks for the walkthrough! EPIC demonstration, video clips, and detail. Keep up the great work. Thanks for all you do.

[@HermCore]

The M777 came out a couple yrs after I got out. We were using the M198. 1 thing I noticed that I thought was really cool on the M777 is the primer magazine. That woulda made being #1 man much easier. We had to load each primer by hand after locking the breech. Every Marine would have his own way of holding primers when they would be #1, some holding the next one in their mouth between rounds. Anyway, this was a great breakdown of Arty without making the vid too long. Emplacement & displacement is whole other aspect of Artillery that takes alot of brute strength. Artillery as whole really is an amazing process. Lima Battery, 3rd Bn, 10th Marines, '02-'06

[@johnmedlock1328]

I thank you and everyone who helped you make this video. I am 64 years old and have played board wargames like Avalon Hills Panzerblitz for 50 years now. You give me so much insight and enhance the educational side of my hobby 🙏

[@oldtop4682]

Another great video! I spent 5 years as a Redleg (a long time ago). Watching this brought back memories - some things changed, but the basics are still pretty much there. I was happy to see that they still teach how to do all this without computers. I've been wondering about that, and this video answered it. Someone below mentioned Met. Those guys and gals get overlooked a lot, but the job they do is vital to the flight of the round.

[@stevebailey1534]

Well done sir! If half the instructors in High School or College were able to inform the subject matter like you just did, society would be much better off. Thanks again please keep it up.

[@colterino]

You took 20 action packed minutes to describe so well what these fighters do in like…?…6 minutes ? Wow. Great Job, Rye ! 👏👏👏😳👍😊

[@irgendwieanders2121]

From Quora, "When a forward observer calls in a fire mission, how much time will it take before the rounds hit the target (I am interested in knowing roughly how long procedures, calculation, and travel time takes)?" Second answer: "FM 71-1 Table 6-3 lists the following response times (based on ARTEP standards): Grid or polar plot mission - 5-7 minutes, Preplanned mission - 3 minutes, preplanned priority mission - 1-2 minutes. In my experience a well-trained unit could be well inside those times." (James E. Scott; Field Artillery and Infantry officerAuthor has 61 answers and 40.7K answer views. Do not want to post a link, sorry...)

[@adamfrazer5150]

Ryan's content is always worth watching - I always want to know more about how these systems work, and hearing directly from the crews themselves really turns this from informative to as close to puttin' on a clinic as a YT viewer can hope for 👍🇨🇦

[@druidnia]

This is probably the best KZbin video I have ever watched, and I watch a Lot. Clear, concise, Informative, and well presented. Thankyou.

[@RyanMcBethProgramming]

Thank you so much

[@ds6872]

When initiating an adjust fire mission there is no need to say one round, the fdc already knows that. Immediate suppression means fire for effect at a stated target grid NOW. never heard of one round immediate suppression, not saying it doesn't exist just never heard it. Also we were told the purpose of splash over is to let the observer know to get your head up and start looking for the impact, not put your head down. Sounds dangerous but the round SHOULD be far enough away. Great video

[@johnw3078]

Yep i was a 13F and splash over is for the fister to be ready to observe. Anyone around knows whats going on already because you are not yelling but talking with clear and understanding language. I was in the army in the 90s i was told that the FDC always backs up solutions done by computer with good ole pencil and paper.

[@ds6872]

@@johnw3078 same here, I was 13F in A co 3/75 way back 95-99

[@johnw3078]

@@ds6872 3/13 here

[@d.b.5070]

Also Immediate Suppression is sent in one transmission

[@ds6872]

@@d.b.5070 absolutely. I was trying to not be long-winded