HOW ATTACK ATTACK CHANGED THE GAME

[@ThePunkRockMBA]

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[@Girundy]

The Punk Rock MBA can you start leaving a list of bands talked or referenced in your videos. Was interested in some in this one and past videos.

[@hollywoodpwnss]

He's been posting a spotify playlist in the description but this one doesn't seem to have one yet.

[@christopherkimber7679]

I'm just curious, who in your opinion do you think started the chugga chugga breakdown sound? I don't know if I'm right on this, but the first band I ever noticed doing it was poison the well opposite of December and tear from the red era. Then Norma Jean perfected it......i think. Love the video bro. Also, the drummer from attack attack has a new band nine shrines. Their pretty intense. Check them out.

[@ThePunkRockMBA]

Yeah but did they have 100s of bands all over the planet copying their entire persona? (Underoath probably did but shikari and skindred def not)

[@jamesforest5245]

The Punk Rock MBA way to groom your comments section so people can only see how awesome you are. You're chronicling a scene that didn't leave small clubs like it was some kind of revolution. Buy a Van Halen record. It'll change your life.

[@13StJimmy]

“Some of you never listened to Attack Attack in the backseat of your moms minivan on a off brand MP3 player and it really shows”

[@ThePunkRockMBA]

Posers

[@heyskylark]

As she takes you to the skate rink to go watch your local hardcore band

[@Full_Metal_Courier]

or an old ipod shuffle if you were lucky

[@7637garrett]

Dude my mp3 back in the day couldn’t hold very many songs on it but it did have a microphone so I sat in my room and recorded all of their songs on that and played them back through the voice memo feature

[@ThePunkRockMBA]

@@7637garrett fuck

[@ShaneSlaughterTV]

Most kids today never synchronized crabbed with their friends and it really shows.

[@ThePunkRockMBA]

Fucking posers

[@bumzilla8586]

Can’t find jeans to fit my adult crab legs

[@M4RCi92]

That name and comment made my day. Proper LOL

[@papajoe6263]

I was the only of my friends that loved this type of music, they were into that bs dubstep

[@bubbyj1332]

My son squads up in Fortnite. I used to squad up in the pit. Don't think my son has ever been punched in the face. Soft ass kids.

[@deanspradling5089]

If you don’t think Attack Attack is important you were never a part of the scene.

[@MichaelAngeloOjeda31]

Dean Spradling what scene? Lmao 😂

[@daytonasayswhat9333]

Michael Ojeda Seriously.

[@articat568]

Michael Ojeda the one that died in 2014, which is why he said it in past tense🤦🏻‍♂️😂

[@hcaz5818]

In 100 years no one will be talking about attack attack

[@juane.7628]

@@hcaz5818 nobody ever talk again about a band that is so identified with a trend. Nu metal is a good example. There were a loooot of nu metal banda between 2000-2010. Then emo appeara and the same thing. Posthardcore is the same thing. In mu opinion, only the banda with a true personal sound survives, like The Fall of Troy.

[@xenony7127]

This band makes me wanna re activate my MySpace account

[@Veany]

I went onto myspace recently and it's a ghost town. Even major artist that had a myspace account back then hasn't touched it. Also, myspace had whipped the majority of their servers so everything that you had saved on there like photos, videos, blog, etc. it's all been deleted. navigating through it is a pain. you can't play any song on their site either from and band or artist. It's basically brain dead.

[@xenony7127]

vincent brignoni it seems like all the old nostalgia shit from 10-15 years ago is dead or dying. After about 8 years of inactivity absolutepunk.net popped in to my mind and I decided to check it out. The site itself doesn’t even exist in its old form its basically an alt top 40 blog now. I was legendary there too 10k post count haha

[@bonojennett]

Hahaha, this is a great comment.

[@mikedixon8830]

My space re-boot 2.0?

[@laynecombs6500]

Haha yeah well that was one thing I liked about Myspace in those days, but then it became loaded with ads.

[@XDirtydreamX]

If you arent crabcoring in 2019 what are you doing?

[@jordancarral]

My crabcore friends all are into indie now 😂

[@AussieBigCat]

I always say “bro do u even crabcore” to my friends and nobody gets it

[@XDirtydreamX]

@@AussieBigCat sounds like you need new friends. Crabcore is only good if you have 4 or 5 others to do it in sync with you.

[@camrn_brian]

Nostalgia is fueling that sentiment. What mainstream band today is currently innovating and creating something new?

[@papajoe6263]

We should start a petition see if we can get a reunion, Austin isn’t in a band at this stage

[@HoChiMints2007]

Nobody: Me: *CRABCORE REVIVAL 2020*

[@Ozzy432_]

SAME!! I'm actually planning on starting a Band nd bringing Crabcore back!!🤘

[@satesup4353]

Pls be real im praying rn... . 😂

[@daytonasayswhat9333]

Isn’t that same comment structure getting really boring and uninteresting?

[@Ozzy432_]

@@daytonasayswhat9333 nope

[@satesup4353]

@@daytonasayswhat9333 not for this topic... . 😂

[@justinstayner9692]

Bands that started playing at 6:26. 1: Capture the Crown 2: Upon This Dawning 3: Skies In December 4: Shoot The Girl First 5: Sienna Skies 6: SECRETS 7: Upon This Dawning 8: Abandon All Ships.

[@SkaterJoe1776]

Thank you for the list!!

[@bobphillips5617]

I scrolled through the comments for two things: 1. This list 2. Someone to mention Hawthorne Heights and I felt they should've been mentioned from the Ohio bands. Kinda surprised I got this first. Thanks!!

[@rainthedredgen8125]

But can you name every song? Lol

[@bobphillips5617]

@@rainthedredgen8125 I just did a search for the bands and it was fairly easy to find each song lol

[@Chi910]

@@rainthedredgen8125 first band song was you call that a knife,this is a knife.second song of human action.third one atrocity and yeah u should find the rest bc there like the most viewed songs like the most viewed songs from them show up first when u search there name soo

[@ShredTastic-rt6if]

In a weird way, I feel this entire scene influenced Emo Rap HEAVILY. The head banging style, the cult following, depressive themes.

[@kimonkarapetsis8195]

Oh man for sure they did. Lil Uzi was probably listening to crabcore when he was in highschool

[@chrismateik3312]

Because most the rap artist we're all into this stuff like lil peep. Xxx. Slump god. Ghostemane. Scarlxrd. Juice wrld. They all grew up to this and shaped their sound

[@chrismateik3312]

Also the guitarist from volumes and alot of these bands produced alot of those artists songs for them and used recording studios that all these bands used

[@jboo8966]

The not being good, I see where you are coming from.

[@OlviMasta77]

emo .. rap? D:

[@davidnissim589]

Metalcore before Attack Attack! was very thrashy and straight-forward (bands like Trivium, Killswitch Engage, Atreyu, etc). After Attack Attack!, metalcore shifted more towards post-hardcore instead of thrash, and also began using synthesizers and electronics. SO many bands were doing it.

[@RoTheCrow]

Yeah. 2000s Metalcore was influenced by Melodic Death Metal and Thrash, but Attack Attack! changed the genre in a way that was radically different and so many other bands after that tried to sound like them. I'd say Attack Attack! was very progressive in that regard.

[@wipwip1453]

Yes

[@PhonkEcho]

Djent bish

[@jack8580]

I went to my first live show in January 2012 and I swear to god every band including the locals had a synth player. To be fair it was also a show for I See Stars and Abandon All Ships

[@TheAbandonedAccount7]

This was technically started by enter shikari in 2007

[@MattGoings]

Bilmuri is SO GOOD. I actually discovered his music outside of Attack Attack and then had my mind blown when I found out he was from that band.

[@doe6651]

Fuck yeah they are! I listen to anything with amazing breakdowns and anything I like beats too. Anything but country and pop. Those are my no nos. But Bilmuri amazed me, his voice is incredible

[@nickwolfie1154]

Bro I knew of attack attack first then found bilmuri bout a year ago and love his stuff and recently found out the same as you😂

[@rocko8544]

I rarely ever check the who’s in what band that I’m listening to and yeah that surprised me too 😂

[@Expelled109]

This is me today lol

[@ethangavin1520]

Johnny Franck is also in "The March Ahead" I LOVE bilmuri. I LOVE Beartooth. Old Attack Attack! Is chock FULL of talent

[@EliseOfTheValley]

This is the most attention Ohio will ever get on this channel

[@ThePunkRockMBA]

Lol- i lived there for like 13 years! It will come up again

[@EliseOfTheValley]

The Punk Rock MBA Midwest emo?

[@tall16]

I wish us Ohioans got more appreciation..

[@officialharvard751]

The Punk Rock MBA talk about mccafferty!

[@jcgmusic16]

Ohio is for lovers. Don't forget that.

[@codyjamison4714]

when i was in highschool me and my friends briefly played in a band called Defend Defend we didnt really try to be Attack Attack i just thought it was funny

[@bruce4751]

I would’ve supported you lmao 👍🏻

[@sabraex]

This scene was everything to me and my friends at the time. It’s really great to see these bands getting recognition a decade or so later. They made everyone and their cousin want to start a metalcore band in high school. I also think MySpace played a huge part in these bands’ successes. No one can deny MySpace Music was a gold mine for scene kids looking for the next cool band. We just don’t see that kind of platform anymore and I think that’s a huge reason why the sub genre died off shortly after MySpace crumbled.

[@ThePunkRockMBA]

Myspace was so sick, and deserves its own video!

[@hollywoodpwnss]

I found most all of the bands I listened to off of MySpsce and top 10 breakdown videos on youtube. What a wild time.

[@sysofadown7213]

@@ThePunkRockMBA In for myspace video! Lol...

[@john-fs9bw]

Myspace was huge that was the only way to find music in the mid-late 2000s.

[@sabraex]

The Punk Rock MBA you should definitely make a MySpace video!

[@Icynova]

Dude, that Joey Sturgis production on so many of those songs and albums is what gave it that candy sheen that the kids loved

[@dbro92]

I credit Joey with the success of so many bands

[@l-manb8054]

So true

[@QlockworkOrange]

Cameron Mizell of Chango studio's also greatly deserves credit.

[@Sergio-nb4hj]

On those early records, he was completely self-taught! Fuсking legend

[@bigbizgrizzz777]

I can say personally as an ohioan this era inspired me beyond belief. As a musician in in my late 20s my most fond memories is opening for them and Asking Alexandria at a community center in Pittsburgh. They played at 1am for me and my friends and gave an amazing show for like 20+people. Seriously just amazing. The devil wears prada,attack attack,asking Alexandria etc. This era was ahead of its time. Also I'm a hiphop artist and this era is still so influential to me.

[@texmex321]

In my humble opinion I feel like Asking Alexandria “perfected” it

[@thalesthalion1617]

Yes

[@supa_powa7490]

Yea but they kinda have their own touch u know their own style so they are no longer copying attack attack but at the beginning I definitely agree with you

[@jn4sty10]

Someday came suddenly and Stand up and scream were both amazing

[@nuancedhistory]

If you're talking Scene, yeah. If you're talking Electronicore (what Attack! Attack! and Crabcore are a part of), it's I See Stars. If you're talking Crabcore itself, Attack! Attack! perfected it but Eskimo Callboy has also really nailed it as well.

[@secre117]

yes

[@morganguest4512]

OM&M with Shayley Bourget and Austin Carlile was such a pinnacle at the time. Those two albums had ripping guitars and breakdowns and the juxtaposition of their voices was incredible.

[@boixgenius]

yes! and when Shayley announced Dayshell it just didn't hit the same. Same with Aaron-era OM&M

[@Toastandbananas130]

Dude, Austin and Shayley were the dynamic duo. Brutal screams, amazing clean vocals. Damn.

[@TheBanana93]

@@boixgenius Yeah since Shayley left they went down hill lol

[@nymets1104]

I wont lie, I have gone down a deep dark well of Crabcore since this video was published. I can't believe how much I can still get into this. 2009 needs to be bottled up and saved for eternity!

[@itsJoshuaSkyy]

NOW THIS IS THE CONTENT IM HERE FOR. #CRABCORE4LIFE

[@ThePunkRockMBA]

🦀 REACTS ONLY

[@koooomi]

Shout out to A skylit drive's 'wires and the concept of breathing', that album was playing when i lost my virginity

[@HoChiMints2007]

WHAT'S IT LIKE, IN, THE, GREATER, SKYYYYYYYYYY

[@isaacmartinez8313]

You're a fuckn legend

[@zdoggzero6595]

Rock on dude

[@ieieee447]

Same here.

[@seanwegner9925]

Still have old photos of MySpace days wearing skinny jeans and purple tinted hair with a size small Attack Attack T-shirt with a crab served up as sushi. 2010 was fun.

[@bobbydrex5268]

Thank you for showing me Bilmuri, I havent stopped listening this band since you dropped this video!

[@quentinbringthenumetalchil5125]

When I look at that Stick Stickly music video, I'm always amazed at how the guitarist can go that low and pull it off. Stick Stickly is that song that's so bad, but it's so good at the same time, like a guilty pleasure.

[@drewnoble4503]

I would love for you to do a more detailed video on Enter Shikari's first album. Take to the Skies was so awesome, and Sorry You're Not a Winner remains a banger.

[@blossomtheopossum]

My favorite album of all times. So underappreciated ❤❤❤

[@chrisheeran]

These dudes were real af. Someday Came Suddenly album release in Columbus, I drove 11 hours through a shit snowstorm from Eastern PA to see them play. I’m 19 and they were all about 15/16/17. I messaged them through MySpace telling them I was coming out to see them and they said let us know when you are here so we can say what up! Long story short, a buddy of mine and I, somehow make it in his shitty 91’ Honda Civic, they were super stoked, their manager Thomas Gutches let us stand side stage. After that they took us out to Waffle House and gave us gas money for the ride home. Needless to say, as they blew up, the kept in touch guestlisting ya for future Philly shows (when Johnny Frank snuck us into the first Unitarian church with that lead singer from a Rise Records band called I Am King - he’s a solo artist now) but it just goes to show how rad the scene was back in the day. Everyone were homies to each other and super thankful for the support/music and art.

[@andrewjwetzel]

Dude, I remember that! Fuckin' Waffle House, man. A classic end to any scene show.

[@screamyblegh3253]

Dude that’s awesome.

[@JKralik2777]

Omg. I remember those first unitarian church shows. Super hot down there. February 20th 2009. I saw attack attack when escape the fate headlined. I cant believe its been 10 years

[@HoChiMints2007]

Was austin carlile an asshole back then or was he okay?

[@loststardb5109]

Late reply but the singer of I Am King’s name was Sam Sky.

[@doodsalot270]

Hawthorne Heights knew about Ohio the whole time tho

[@TheJVH]

Thanks, now I'm gonna have that song stuck in my head for days again. It's so damn catchy!

[@zapantalambda]

I miss Hawthorne Heights!!

[@MarcusMcGrizz]

RIP Casey :'(

[@invalida8701]

Caleb is one of the most impressive musicians of the modern era. from pioneering crabcore and being bullied out of the scene, to making beartooth and blowing that band up through the roof. it always pissed me off when people would shit on attack attack but then show me something like capture the crown.

[@iwasinabandonce]

They legit changed the game, even if people dislike the music, you have to respect the innovation.

[@sebastianHG__]

do a 2010's hardcore - metalcore scene, it was big, hundredth, the ghost inside, Stick to your guns, evergreen terrace, counterparts. It was a big mainstream period.

[@kage6613]

HARDCORECORE/SRSCORE

[@ThePunkRockMBA]

@@kage6613 lol yes

[@roemip]

It's still going on though, a few of those bands really only got big like 2013/2014-ish.

[@sebastianHG__]

@@roemip agreed.

[@ITopplepharaohs]

@@ThePunkRockMBA Dude SRSCORE holy shit blast from the past. i loved that shit...and still do!! my highschool angsty self loved the iconic "having heart" and finding a place where we belong" (which is 100% the srscore equivalent of pop punk's "my friends and i are all fucked on the inside.") Which I also fucking loved during that same point in time! Yay angsty nostalgia! SRSTALGIA

[@eyelove_owlcity]

Attack Attack pioneered crabcore but I think Asking Alexandria perfected it.

[@TheAbandonedAccount7]

Shouldn't even compare the two. They're entirely different. Attack attack used two vocalists, autotune, and a very dubstep/trance influenced sound. Asking is more house/euro dance sounding.

[@clouddylol]

@@TheAbandonedAccount7 asking also has to vocalist if you consider Ben js

[@chubbymonkey452]

@@TheAbandonedAccount7 never even considered that. They are from the UK so that makes sense

[@ChristopherJames1993]

Actually Hybryd/Enter Shikari pioneered it then Attack Attack perfected it and made it mainstream.

[@benxgoh]

*ATTACK ATTACK! WHERE YOU AT?*

[@Do-lf8ne]

Ben Goh Check out “Johnny Franck” on youtube

[@theFailQuail]

WE BACK AGAIN BAYBAYYYY

[@Bilmuriband]

Ben Goh right here!

[@Do-lf8ne]

Johnny Franck Productions Thats a lot easier, ✌🏻

[@artdomahardhika4794]

check this: myurls.co/drudge

[@kirfnuffle]

My freshmen year of high school was 2009, so I was prime demographic for this music. And I loved it! I remember my friends and I would almost study their studio and tour update videos. We started referencing the videos and the inside jokes the band told as if we were their friends too. I wore deep v neck t shirts for years because Andrew and the bassist from TDWP did in most of their videos. Hell, my best friend had a picture of Caleb on his phone that he took to his barber so he could get the exact haircut. At school dances we would definitely crab core and do that weird in-place-running thing to dance songs. We once drove two and a half hours from our small town to another small town to see them, Asking Alexandria, and I See Stars play in a Knights of Columbus Hall. This band completely revolutionized the world in more ways than just music. And I've commented this a time or two before, but my friends and I started a crappy metalcore band our sophomore year (I think we were called Tomorrow Misguided or something cringey like that) and it honestly took us three whole songs before we realized we were essentially an Attack Attack! cover band. I will defend crabcore until the day I die!!!

[@ThePunkRockMBA]

👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@DropNinety]

You had a great childhood. I’m older but I can almost relate to all of those experiences except with blink 182 and that pop punk movement.

[@Bilmuriband]

Seth Reichert fuck yeah! Loved this story

[@kirfnuffle]

@@Bilmuriband dude your band turned 5 high school freshmen into best friends and got me into music I still love today. I had a chance to meet you after that show at the Knights of Columbus Hall in Tyler, Texas and you were one of the friendliest and most humble guys I've ever met. Thanks for making great music and for encouraging a dumb 15 year-old to continue making crappy music with his best friends. Okay, fan boy moment over 🤘

[@DanielEarl]

Finn: "Nothing is inspiring about Ohio" Nailed it. I actually really liked Attack Attack. The combination of synths and a heavier sound was really cool to high school aged me. :)

[@joshuagoudie2849]

They put on a damn good show too seen them at warped a few years in a row and they never disappointed

[@PhantomCooper]

I got into Attack Attack because some hardcore snob was complaining about them, LOL.

[@Blikmin]

Having haters is actually free advertising it seems. Cool!

[@symystyk]

haha same

[@GabyGlowsticks]

I'm eternally grateful for this video, for you, and the community you're fostering...and I want more people to find you. Attack attack! Was the reason why I got to go to my first Warped tour and real show for free. I don't know if my concert addiction would've been possible without them. Definitely my scene phase would've been fake without them haha

[@DerekHeimbach33]

Yo seriously thank you so much for talking about Caleb, Johnny, and Austin’s current ventures. They’re all amazing and talented individuals and they deserve to have their post-AttackAttack! musical ventures mentioned I saw Austin with OM&M before he left and the hype was groundbreaking. It was insane. I also saw Caleb play a show with only their first Beartooth album released and I can honestly say that this guy is the most genuine person in the scene. He called the band off the stage and spent a good 10-15 minutes just speaking to the audience about mental health and this guy is just an actual superhero in this scene. So thank you for talking about their current projects and much love and support to Austin’s current medical situation. I just really appreciate you taking the time to make a really all around video and putting these guys in the spotlight because they deserve it!! Subscribed for life.

[@TheAbandonedAccount7]

Honestly the only one worth mentioning anymore is bilmuri. Om&m haven't been good since shayley left the band in 2011 (he wrote their songs), and Beartooth hasn't been good since maybe the first album, but realistically, the EP. I remember in 2013 seeing Beartooth and aa! in the same week and it was super hype. But the hype wore off for Beartooth very very quickly. I'm always happy to hear about dudes like Johnny Franck or asking Alexandria tho who can break free from the genericism and find their musical identities and make some good stuff. Caleb is talented, it's just not at all for me, musically.

[@tylerb419]

I went to school with the MIss May I guys. I remember a small show with Attack Attack, Miss May I, Crimson Armada, Lets Get It. I remember when they were sound checking the auto tune I thought it was ridiculous. After they started playing I was hooked. I went home and used my moms credit card to download their pre stick stickly singles off of Myspace. Remember when Myspace had that thing where you could buy songs?

[@postalcollapse12]

crimson armada.. real shit right there.

[@Caustic315]

I fuckin loved Attack! Attack! Still do but I honestly never realized just how influential they were. Even thinking back to my first bands I so badly wanted to be a clone of them and almost did it subconsciously, they really did mold a whole generation of artists and bands!

[@SethKasso]

Found this on Attack Attack's Twitter earlier today. The presentation style of this video is fantastic. Easiest hit of the subscribe button that I've done in months.

[@brandonsmith3510]

I remember catching these dudes in a basement, walking in right before the synth breakdown in “Stick Stickly” and my mind being blown when the electronica hit. Fan every since. Also super happy you repped 18v and Bilmuri.

[@Bilmuriband]

Brandon Smith haha that’s amazing, where at?

[@brandonsmith3510]

Johnny Franck Productions first Unitarian church! Must have been 2008/2009! Opening for Escape the Fate!

[@Thefutra2000]

When Johnny Franck shared this video on FB. 👌🏼👌🏼

[@mfranco25881]

2:45 I am a year too late but I do appreciate the Hawthorne Heights reference there.

[@kennyrivardo8886]

Thank you for this! Loved Attack Attack growing up and definitely got my fair share of weird looks in high school as the skinny kid in girls jeans blasting this synth/screamo out of my gfs beat up Honda CRV... Almost 11 years later Someday Came Suddenly is still a very influential and nostalgic album for me! Also Bilmuri kicks ass, especially his early stuff.

[@Bilmuriband]

Kenny Rivardo bruh buying girl jeans at the mall was always awkward/worth it

[@DanBieranowski]

I don't think there is any denying that Joey's production played a very important part in all of this. Most engineers would have treated this like any other metalcore record and buried the synths and effects, but Joey recognized how this would make the band stand out and his super clean and heavy production made plenty of room for the synths to shine. He basically created a template that could be followed by others for making super dense mixes that incorporated guitars and synths in the same space, and didn't bury the hooks.. I'm not a big fan of this type of music, but I can listen to it all day just appreciating the quality of the production, especially for the time.

[@coreyr7560]

Metalcore is one of my many very favorite music genres. In my opinion there’s so much more emotion put into the actual music than any other genre. It deserves more recognition. Attack Attack! is also SO underrated and SO shit on. It shouldn’t be. They are what helped keep metal evolving today. They ALL deserve a massive amount of credit, especially Austin and after what he’s been through.

[@CoinOpTV]

congratz on getting marriaged dude

[@griff4277]

Twenty ninescene is actually gonna happen. And I for one welcome our new crabcore overlords.

[@Captain.Spaghetti]

Yes please I am a 🦀

[@ThePunkRockMBA]

🦀 reacts only

[@TheInfiniteNine]

Twenty ninescene will spark the coming decade that will be known as the RAWRing 20's.

[@Liminal-Galaxy-System6819]

TheInfiniteNine how do you feel now

[@grogdocr]

@@Liminal-Galaxy-System6819 He feels bad. We all feel bad.

[@TheAdamHawk]

Dude can we get an ISMFOF video? Incredible young duo. And stupidly unique! Such a huge shame they parted ways so early.

[@DeFabrizio86]

this channel is god-like. love how educational it is and how it satisfies that nostalgic itch I get for the years I was growing up in the music industry. I also appreciate how articulate you are.

[@spreespross]

Omg thank you so much for recommending Bilmuri to us. I'm blown away by the quality and depth of every single of their songs and the sheer amount of art I somehow managed to miss so far. This could become one of those rare band discoveries you make only every few years and I'll surely spread the word.

[@chrismateik3312]

Attack attack. Asking akexandria. Born of osiris. We butter thr bread with butter. Oceano. (I listened to all metal, all core.) Then djent came out such as volumes. So many bands shaped who I became as a human in my teen years. Remember when stick stickly first came out and the wave started. But when you started playing smokeahontas I started crying from how strong the nostalgia hit me. So many good memories and was such a good time in my life. Plus weed was more enjoying. You got a new subscriber today man.

[@chaoticfirearm]

I remember being in 6th grade in 2008 and my friend at the time yelled at this scene girl "Attack Attack SUCKS" . I remember being super embarrassed because it was completely unnecessary and mean even though I agreed with him. Sometime in high school, I let my hardcore elitism go and basically fell in love with Someday Came Suddenly. It's absolutely such a catchy, fun, ridiculous record and I love it so much. It serves as such an amazing period piece at this point and their influence, like you said, caused such a shift in the climate that ALL those bands copied them post Someday. If anyone is looking for real gems, SERIOUSLY go watch their studio and tour videos from that era. It's beautiful. That's all I can say. Great video, Finn. I cannot wait for more. Been loving everything you've put out as of late.

[@byrdmain7511]

So funny

[@vincegravedubs]

Attack Attack! was one of the most important bands of my teenage years and they single-handedly kicked off my scene phase. I vividly remember watching Stick Stickly for the first time and then asking my mom if she could straighten my hair lmao. Sure I was into Escape the Fate and stuff before them, but they're the reason I got so into a lot of these heavy post-hardcore bands with electronics and progressively much heavier genres. Pretty insane in hindsight.

[@ThePunkRockMBA]

Lol! Amazing

[@fernandomendoza8202]

Renob nevada was the shit

[@Bilmuriband]

Vincent Gravel ya aren’t really in the scene if you didn’t borrow your moms straightener

[@vincegravedubs]

@b I just like fun music! Plus, before I got into heavier genres I listened to a lot of electronic music so having both genres combined just did it for me regardless of the goofiness.

[@gregtheflyingwhale]

Thank youuuu very much for linking it all together, because I would've never connected it all, especially Enter Shikari!

[@Treggify]

I feel like we’ve officially entered the “listen to what you want to listen to” era and I’m here for it

[@Bilmuriband]

Treggify same, I don’t understand why people get so upset over someone listening to a genre of music lol

[@alemãodeca]

I clicked on the video to watch a different opinion about Attack Attack and the video ended I was like "I'll start a metalcore band". Love you man, great video, great channel!

[@Gentlemanscholarsignssf]

Grew up in the Dayton hardcore and punk scene - appreciate the mention. No one ever did it to get famous, but this did happen. Hawthorne Heights was the most famous of the scene after I left. Nobody I knew from that scene ever did punk rock to get famous or be part of the Scene - they did it for the universal punk values of diy and making our own spaces and future. Fame was never a factor. Fame looked like headlining a $5 show at knights of Columbus hall. We did it out of boredom. It's an escape from the Midwestern hell. From football, from our factory jobs and strip malls.

[@jacobtrick4973]

Me too dude. Went to the attic all the time and saw a ton of these bands. I love hearing our little city of Dayton namedropped, especially when its about hardcore music.

[@Vyngraven]

Wow that Bilmuri track sounds amazing.

[@Hubcityhap]

Just followed them on instagram.

[@Bilmuriband]

VΞGΛEidolon thank you my dude

[@gals.182]

that band is criminally underrated

[@Ninjanzee]

I love it but it sounds a LOT like ADtR

[@tylerb419]

@@Ninjanzee WAT. did you just compare Bilmuri to ADTR? Have you listened to Bilmuri?

[@tracevideoproductions]

I really don't know how to explain but there is some intense connection I feel towards Attack Attack. Especially after I watched a lot of their studio videos I got really attached and I think you hit the nail on the head, they are inspiring. They werent in some crazy big city or big professional studios (Joey Sturgis is a legend now don't get me wrong). They were just young guys who had a sound and a dream and they made it work.

[@ThePunkRockMBA]

Well said

[@tracevideoproductions]

@Jacquline Ard yeah I would agree that the sound was a little cheesey but for me it grew and I loved it. Love Beartooth, but you gotta check out Johnny's stuff as Bilmuri! It's great, plus he had some other good music as The March Ahead.

[@Bilmuriband]

TraceVideoProductions haha fuck yeah! We recorded/lived in a garage for a month and it was a blast

[@andrewowen7281]

Love this channel. Stumbled over you the other day. I grew up as a 90’s kid.. cut my teeth on the Boy band pop music that was the top 40 of the late 90’s, early 2000’s. Then in 2001, at the age of 11, I got a copy of X Games Skateboarding and a Playstation 2. It featured Linkin Park’s ‘A Place for My Head’. This was the start of my fascination with alt rock. Growing up in a Pittsburgh Christian community, I was soon after introduced to the christian Post Hardcore scene. I remember a friend binging over a copy of ‘They’re Only Chasing Safety’ in 2004, and I listened to it for weeks on end. Soon after, I began discovering other bands in the scene like Zao and so forth. I vividly remember being so in love with Stick sticky and the sounds of bands that followed the path created by AA in the early 2010’s. Happy to see this video! I wanted to say this channel is a lot of nostalgia for me and makes me realize how much I’m out of touch with punk these days, as I still find myself listening to a lot of stuff from that era… Thanks agin, keep up the great work!

[@imranharun]

Ive never clicked on a video so quickly until today.

[@Gare_]

same

[@dtbenso]

I'm so pumped you mentioned Bilmuri - super underrated! Great video!

[@sandcake]

Bilmuri is so good. When I wrote my tv show my fave songs from him were non stop on repeat. I asked him if I could use his music for my show. He told me when the rough cut of the first episode is done he will take a look and if he likes it, then I can ;) The rough cut isn't done yet, hopefully in December. Then let's see :) Isn't it so sad that there is no tv show out there that represents our music/scene? So I made it my goal writing an edgy comedy with a 30yr old scene kid in the middle of it, trying to grow up. Let's see if anyone cares :) Best from Germany!

[@deathrays]

How's the show going?

[@hollister2320]

God I love him so much, one of my favorite songs is by Bilmuri, “Holycrud”, can’t get enough of it

[@snowflamestr]

Enter Shikari was heavily influenced by the british scene (hence the production direction) and what they did at the time was kinda groundbreaking but maybe a bit ahead of their time. Also, after everyone caught up with the Post-hardcore + electro thing, ES still didn't change their sound and kept doing their thing more or less. Attack Attack definitely was a different kind of beast. Good appoach on the video mate.

[@senpaikouhai8625]

I think ES sound caters more to the British rock scene rather than in American scene so they had a hard time entering in the US market.

[@snowflamestr]

@@senpaikouhai8625 They always gave the impression of a band that makes music without caring about markets much.

[@senatorcthulu1815]

I mean, Enter Shikari's sound has changed dramatically, but i get where you're coming from.

[@Necrokidy]

Bands like Attack Attack! and Asking Alexandria etc. like to call themeselves post-hardcore, but they aren't. Real post-hardcore is like Boysetsfire, Glassjaw, etc. Asking Alexandria and Attack Attack! are emocore.

[@tonksXwop]

Love ES!

[@Hubcityhap]

This video is my heart. Attack Attack! is a huge reason why Im into the music Im now. Yea thats cliche but its the truth. After randomly stumbling on to the them at warped tour my music taste was never the same. Great video Fin!

[@Bilmuriband]

Jonathan Flores heck yeah!!

[@flowrepeats]

so this video randomly popped up on my feed and i am so mad that i am just now finding your channel. this video made me so happy with all the nostalgia. off to binge watch all your vids

[@ThePunkRockMBA]

Thanks man!

[@paulgranqvist1833]

I have the same exact thoughts about Bilmuri - Frank's project is amazing, it deserves way more exposure than it's currently getting

[@xavierad11]

Finn, (Hope you read this) First off, thank you for taking the time and putting this video out. I think it’s absolutely fundamental that this band gets the credit that it deserves. I am from Ohio and grew up in the 2000's metalcore scene. I was fortunate to be able to see AA perform at the Newport music hall with Miss May I, Crimson Armada, The Color Morale, and I set my friends on fire. Best concert I have been too period. Anyways, in my opinion AA started the whole scene kid movement. You couldn’t go to Hot Topic without seeing their merch plastered everywhere. The hate kinda is what also made them famous. When that video was plastered everywhere it did more good than harm/. AA really and truly changed the game and introduced a whole new genre of music to the pissed off teenagers of the world in 2009-2010 (like myself at the time) . Keep up the good work man and thanks again your videos are awesome! (Also, being 28 now and seeing that the stick stickly video is 10 years old makes me feel old)! PS: To all the former scene kids. The nostalgia is real and never forget where you came from!

[@ThePunkRockMBA]

We probably went to the same show at the newport! AA release in 2012?

[@xavierad11]

@@ThePunkRockMBA Think so? Caleb and Saud Ahmed did vocals to one of AA's song during the concert!

[@aibrainlet8041]

ISMFOF are the greatest band of all time

[@DC22heattt]

wow. what a scene in that time

[@Bilmuriband]

xavierad11 haha has a blast reading this

[@sassyest8292]

How my day started: I kinda missed Attack Attack, I somehow forgotten about them for a while (changed my music player, etc etc). Searched them on KZbin AND THEN I came across this wonderful video. I am from halfway around the world, and it's the first time I've heard of their origin and huge influence. I used to listen to them when I was in college, now I'm already working, and listening to them is so nostalgic.

[@Katsumi_kylan]

Wow, this video really inspired me to start focusing more on my band and trying to actually get it moving. Thanks man!

[@vlang2010]

Holy shit I’m surprised to see Skies Of December on here. Sweet local band from Cleveland.

[@ianmorris1187]

Saw them so many times at Peabody's in the cove

[@drewpenton2002]

I moved to Westervolle Ohio early in life, and Attack Attack vcd changed my life, I loved the sound and that it couldn't be kept in a box. They definitely changed the game in many ways. Caleb Shomo has been a huge part of my life later on as of now in creating music that is therapeutic to my addiction recovery. Being a recovering drug/alcoholic addict, I can relate to Beartooths music heavily. From the time I saw them perform the Disease album with my father at a warped tour, and got to meet Caleb Shomo. This was a mindblowing experience that ultimately made me feel like I wasn't alone with my addiction really surfacing. None the less attack attack is where it all started to my knowledge, and for that I am forever grateful for their innovation that inspired me to be the artist I am today. That's all folks.

[@TheAbandonedAccount7]

You should've seen Beartooth back in 2013 on their first "tour." That was somethin else.... (I put tour in quotes bc it wasn't an official tour. I think half of it was legit house shows lol)

[@bmir89]

Been telling people for years that AA made a huge influence in the genre. Incorporating the heavy electronica sound was huge. Other bands did it before, but never to that degree. Nice to see someone else finally agrees with me. Along with their sound, the image and stage presence was ripped of by many bands.

[@Floppy815]

I remember pretending to like Attack Attack my freshmen year of high school because my crush was into them and I wanted to smash, sadly I didn't.

[@PunkIsDead...LikeMe]

domstrom so, you never got to smash attack attack? there's still time!

[@supportingactcounseling]

Great video! Thanks for your insights. I didn't listen to Attack Attack back then but was in a band in the pop punk scene and totally saw the influence of these guys. I remember my band and other bands we played/toured with emulating these guys' moves. They had a HUGE influence in the scene.

[@jlynnb1]

Nailed it again, as always. All three of their album are criminally underrated and still hold up very well. And so glad you mentioned what Johnny is up to, Bilmuri is genius...deserves all the recognition he can get.

[@Bilmuriband]

Jason Biggs thanks broski!

[@jlynnb1]

Johnny Franck Productions Killing it bro

[@The1WithoutFear]

I distinctly remember being of the age in high school where you were in one of three camps: Soulja Boy's, Relient K's, or Attack Attack's. But if you want to have your mind blown my metalhead bro, you should know that Attack Attack hasn't just inspired American copycats, but foreign ones as well! One example I would strongly recommend checking out is Japan's Fear and Loathing In Vegas, with the one song sounding most like Attack Attack being their theme song for the anime Brynhildr. Hope you enjoy it, and congratulations on your marriage! Many blessings to you and your wife on your many years together!

[@The1WithoutFear]

"Virtue And Vice" by Fear And Loathing In Las Vegas, a Japanese Attack Attack clone. Be weary, flashing lights are constant in the music video and may induce headaches or epileptic seizures! kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y3jYkHuto9uja7c

[@ThePunkRockMBA]

Thank you!

[@rytram4384]

They did the opening theme for Parasyte too!

[@The1WithoutFear]

@@ThePunkRockMBA You're always welcome, sir! :)

[@The1WithoutFear]

@@rytram4384 I haven't heard that particular song yet (haven't watched many new anime in about five years other than Terror In Resonance and My Hero Academia), so I'll be sure to check out both the song and the show!

[@toddadkins6253]

I was in highschool when this all went down. Honestly never really struck me until this video the amount of talent that streamed from Ohio and fueled my angsty teenage years into my early twenties. Best part about all of this is I was fortunate enough to see most of these bands play since I live in NW Ohio and every venue seemed to be "only an hour or 2 drive". I'd like to see some reunion tours from 10 years ago!

[@moosesandmeese969]

You're so correct about the whole "who did it first" type thing. Like Metallica certainly wasn't the first heavy metal band and Green Day wasn't the first Pop Punk band but they sure as hell had a huge impact on the genres

[@jesseinfinite]

Literally nobody calls Metallica the first heavy metal band. Even Metallica doesn't do that. Everybody including Metallica will tell you that the first metal band is Black Sabbath. Metallica however has a good argument to be called the first Thrash Metal band, because Kill Em All was the first thrash album ever released.

[@jfhayeur9809]

I haven't paid any attention to all of these bands from the last 15+ years. However, I am interested in music history so thank you for encapsulating this. I learned something.

[@anthonyderosa7730]

I love this channel. you speak of all the "underground" bands that actually did make an impact on the influence to how the overall "metal" genre has grown

[@bearsgarage272]

This went from learning about one of my favorite bands from my early 20s into a motivational speech. Im inspired and now im gonna go on an Attack Attack binge

[@IzakPhineasAbney]

Yes someone who has a platform promoting Bilmuri.

[@Bilmuriband]

TheCameronJay 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 yesssss

[@oW0LFP4CKo]

"Chunk, No! Captain Chunk!" is my life now. Been obsessed since you mentioned them in your Metalcore video. Little different from AA but better ;) best mix of pop-punk and hard metal. Love!

[@aaron0brian580]

Angel Du$t shirt noted and appreciated

[@MauriceterVelde]

This video is 100% accurate. I even own a Someday Came Suddenly hardcopy. Same goes for the second album. Saw them live when their third album came out. Caleb had a nasty cold but he sang anyway. You could definitely hear it but he made it work. No one in the venue stood still. Friend even lost a shoe. Loved Beartooth’s “I Have A Problem”. Another example of how Caleb changed the game (again). Their newer stuff was to teen orientated for me since I am old AF now.

[@seanyancey7257]

I think it's very valuable to go back to 2004- 2009 and realize that it's the most experiemental time of modern metal and you can really feel the dipping of toes to do something different

[@thecryptripper]

Ohio was incredible for Metalcore. I'm from Mansfield so I was able to witness a lot of that beauty during 2009. Settle The Sky were probably my favorite to see live.

[@adamtaylor5274]

I love the last part. Reminds me of “Never forget what you are. The rest of the world will not. Wear it like armor, and it can never be used to hurt you.” -- Tyrion Lannister

[@rhinokahn5500]

I wholeheartedly enjoy the majority of your videos. Thanks, duder!

[@jeremypatrickrayvasquezzyq1212]

Best video of yours I’ve seen. I can relate with this so much. I loved the Ohio metalcore scene!

[@jupiter_jazz]

i met this guy and he was telling me that Attack Attack was legendary and his favorite band. i went home and looked them up and my first thought was “wow this is laughable” but over a year later, i totally get it. they really did change the game.

[@Bilmuriband]

Angel L so cool!!!

[@jupiter_jazz]

Johnny Franck Productions thank you!

[@brandonoleary3042]

I love Enter Shikari getting mentioned in there, I feel like it’s not a very well known band where I’m from. They paved the way into my taste in metalcore, hardcore, post, etc. along with attack attack! These were my middle school, and early high school days and now at 26 I find myself listening to these bands a shit ton again recently.

[@JabneyTheKing]

Ohio Metalcore ❤️ living in Ohio when Stick Stickly came out, it definitely changed the scene a lot. That album was always on repeat for me and my friends. The scene back then was so tight knit too and local shows were always sold out. Good times man; I miss it often.

[@simonXsludge]

I remember when the 'Stick Stickly' video came out and definitely thought it was the absolute worst. I still find this style completely unpalatable today, hahaha. They clearly influenced a lot of other bands' music, outfits and even stage moves. I really can't find any redeeming quality about any of it. I still enjoyed the video and it's always interesting and educational to see these phenomenons dissected by you, even if it's bands or music I do not enjoy at all.

[@ThePunkRockMBA]

Thank you! Thats the best compliment i could ask for

[@lukealdridge4407]

Dude I was 18-19 back then, straight up scene kid, I loved all the mid 200s metalcore but Attack Attack and TDWP was my shit, sooo much nostalgia watching this video

[@Liminal-Galaxy-System6819]

have you yet to stumble across The Cozy Representative here on KZbin? His whole channel is nothing but scene/emo nostalgia :,)

[@basedsouljah]

Growing up in Ohio (Northwest), there was SOOO many amazing metalcore bands & shows around 2008-2010 like no question. BUT. There were also an ABSURD amount of clones. Choreographed guitar-over-head-swings, and running in place, christ there were CLONES OF THE CLONES after a while. But hey! I'm kinda honored to have at least been there for something, even if it is *Ohio crabcore*

[@fabienloustalot9696]

NO BREAKDOWNS? NOT MUSIC.

[@MartysBetterGaming]

Shikari evolved so far into their own sound I even had a time considering them in the post-hardcore genre. A Flash Flood of Colour is one of the most unique sounding albums I've ever had the privilege of listening to.