How Australia Cheats East Timor of its Natural Gas

East Timor and Australia have had a maritime border dispute for centuries. Their disagreements are fueled by the prospects of natural gas and oil.
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[@cerulean25_]

And that also the reason why Australia very vocal about Papua's independence, because they want their gold and their resources too

[@Aloha_aloha_]

Likewise Indonesia, they don't want to let go of Papua because lndog also needs gold

[@laillosidgar]

@@Aloha_aloha_ Who doesn't? At least it's their own gold, in their teritory, not somewhere else. Unlike someone who tries destabilizing other nation sovereignity. It's like compared spoiled child behaviour vs terrorism act.

[@Aloha_aloha_]

@@yogipaputungan5788 typical islampah, sering nuduh2

[@gamersgame9676]

​@@Aloha_aloha_ bahasamu menunjukkan kualitas diri mu.

[@Aloha_aloha_]

@@gamersgame9676 emang gua pikir

[@Loli4lyf]

the only reason east timor tried so hard to join ASEAN is to get those sweet sweet humanitarian funds but all ASEAN countries have something to offer like oil, food, trade routes etc but what can east timor even offer? nothing. and now australia is stealing their oil and gas, so much so for the price of "independence".

[@houseoftyrell1544]

Exactly, East Timor suddenly want to join Asean and using the sympathy card, should be begging to Australia, their white hero lmao

[@hanshartman440]

to be fair: they aren't did independence for stupid reason, they are discriminated for being different in religion nor tribe, by the time gov ruled by Dictator name Suharto

[@yandinp8874]

@@hanshartman440 if only they could be patient enough to wait until the new president come to developed their hometown like Indonesian president nowadays who currently focused to developed the other province. Take example their neighbor NTT now ^^

[@jalma9643]

@@hanshartman440 And get the sweet lie of Australia? see the west timor and get the difference in this time.

[@zulkifli4201]

​@@yandinp8874 human nature always tend to be impatient

[@SatriaTaruna]

East Timor : "We believe Australia still in our side..." Ausie : "Who the hell are you guys?!"

[@narcat3999]

Aussie: 1999 - 2008.? All that protection, equipment and training for FREE? Long way to send troops from Japan. Good luck with the next Indonesian invasion

[@lz1872]

the progress of east timor depends on the east timor leadership how to make decision that the best of timor leste economy, nothing to do with australia, nothing to do with indonesia, u know nothin u better shut up....

[@RinRinn566]

​@@lz1872 siap the next beban Asean.

[@syahdree3800]

​@@lz1872 plz educated your people first before begging to join ASEAN 😂

[@ignatiusryd2031]

@@lz1872 Such a burden for ASEAN

[@MrDanni312]

Australia was the country that largely supported Timor Leste independence. We knew they were up for something.

[@holybutterfly8495]

Sometimes don’t get involved to their business it will better for you too.

[@zoaero]

also their agendas in papua have a reason too and no its definitely not about resources in papua definitely not at all

[@asterinycht5438]

​@@zoaero so what their agenda ? Human right ?? Cmon i want to hear your opinion about that

[@naufalmakarim7150]

​@@asterinycht5438 Human Rights... The most basic justification to bring down an opponent. If only Papua did not have plentiful natural resources, I'm sure no one would support them

[@pakarpintu4917]

@@asterinycht5438 HUman Right ? Australia have more issues about human right. how about Aborigin ?

[@beniirama4076]

became the enemy of USA and their affiliates can be dangerous. became their allies are fatal. very true

[@Clarksville000]

When Australia acting like a hero against china bullying their neighbors but Australia and USA is the more expert of those

[@albertjose8879]

Aptly said . Must be that euro strain😂😂

[@danielbroomhall8882]

if you compare usa and china, then yes, they are predator countries, but Australia isn't as bad as those two.

[@narcat3999]

In 1975, after the Vietnam War, Australia and America didn't have enough soldiers left to fight all of Indonesia. 1999 - 2002: Thousands of Australian soldiers FOUGHT for East Timor's independence and stayed until 2008 protecting and training the people living there. Now they want to cut Australia out all together. The oil companies will not protect them from the next invasion and they will only be able to escape to nearby Australia. This man does not mention these things. Australians aren't so bad, we just want to be able to pay for feeding and protecting the refugees when they arrive. Not many people in Australia means not so much tax $$$. Someone is paying East Timor politicians to destroy their own people and country. It's a very sad thing.

[@topofthemorning6832]

Here in Australia we aren't taught about what happened/currently happening in East Timor. We are taught that the bad Indonesians invaded them and we saved the day with a peace keeping mission. (The invasion but it was so brutal that some of the guys came back with worse PTSD than those who fought in war)

[@hithere1219]

​@@topofthemorning6832 now their economic is worse than the west counterpart and currently Australia tried to separate west papua from indonesia

[@f.s.firdaus8106]

They (Australia) aren’t stealing your oil. Your oil is the payment for their support of your independence. There’s no free “lunch”, Timmy.

[@atoycarmo3458]

Are you sure Australia not still our oil

[@oriktenek]

lol 😂😂😂😂😂

[@Don69Muk]

​@@atoycarmo3458 Yes.. You just buy their support, Betrayer 😂😂😂

[@SouthCoastCoast]

TIMMY😂

[@RamonJulian_]

Hahahah, that's why Oceania countries prefer to ask for help from Indonesia rather than Aussie.

[@intriguingfacts5434]

Good thing West Timor remains with Indonesia. Both parts were equal in terms of wealth in late 90's. But now, West Timor far surpasses East Timor in terms of development, although they have no oil. They can get guaranteed annual subsidies from central government, which is about $2.3 billion in 2023 through DIPA funds. While, East Timor needs to carefully sip from their limited reserves of $17 billion petroleum funds, which can be exhausted in 10 years, if the problematic Greater Sunrise field isn't operational soon.

[@fajrireynaldo5858]

Yes West Timor gdp percapita 4800$ ,, beside 1425$ for East Timor ,, 🥴

[@Jim_Colbert]

Paling nggak mereka sekarang nggak jadi kacung jawa lagi...😅😅😅 Mungkin hidup jadi tuan di tanah sendiri lebih baik daripada cuma jadi kacung jawa....sama seperti yg jawa rasakan ketika mereka memilih merdeka dari belanda...

[@Jim_Colbert]

Itu sebabnya sampai sekarang papua ngotot ingin merdeka... Mereka gak butuh pembangunan...yg mereka inginkan cuma merdeka...

[@intriguingfacts5434]

@@Jim_Colbert Yang dominan suaranya di parlemen sekarang itu orang2 sumatra. Bahkan di eksekutif, Luhut sebagai menteri koordinator, sangat dominan dibanding menteri2 lainnya. Masa orde baru sudah lewat, Indonesia makin inklusif untuk semua etnis. GDP terus melesat tanpa tergantung minyak bumi. Sedangkan TL masa depannya masih mengkhawatirkan.....itu lah gara2 kena hasut Australia. Habis minyak kalian dicuri.

[@intriguingfacts5434]

@@Jim_Colbert Papua yang ingin merdeka hanya orang2 pegunungan. Orang2 Papua di pesisir dan perkotaan sudah cinta NKRI. Bahkan banyak pemuda2 papua yang masuk TNI dan polri. Percuma papua merdeka, kalau nanti SDAnya dirampas australia dan nggak dapat subsidi pusat lagi. Sama aja boong.

[@thechoku9765]

Aussie : we will support your independence Est timor : for free right? Aussie : 😊

[@adamiskandar5107]

If it was not for free, why do they want to preach Freedom and democracy to other countries? Oh, it was not for free, such hypocrites!

[@thechoku9765]

@@adamiskandar5107 no one not being hypocrites in this world pal, even if the citizen don't want to do that, the government does.

[@adamiskandar5107]

@@thechoku9765 Most countries don't go round preaching Freedom and Democracy. So when I call them hypocrites, you should know who I am referring to.

[@tobz475]

​@@adamiskandar5107Modern colonization, youre not even realize it. Its always the same pattern since 1800.

[@pakarpintu4917]

Aussie : For Free Doom

[@asantaraliner]

There were several cases where cars cross border from Timor Leste to Indonesia so they can buy subsidized fuel from Pertamina. However, it is illegal for foreign cars to buy subsidized fuel.

[@jtpf87]

Yeh well Pertamina also sells bensin to children without hesitation.

[@jasminevitz]

​@@jtpf87it's not illegal for children to buy petrol, but it's illegal for foreign to buy and use petrol for indonesian poor people, foreigners they don't pay tax

[@jalma9643]

@@jtpf87 What is the corelation of bensin and children?

[@GregorianMG]

​@@jalma9643 None, because it doesn't add anything to the topic.

[@uncle_am7718]

@@jtpf87 low IQ

[@muhamadfadlan6111]

Semua separatis yang daerahnya banyak Sumber daya alam pasti ada sumbangsih Australia. Membantai suku aborigin saja mereka tidak fikir panjang, apa lagi cuma suku yang sumber daya manusianya bisa mereka manipulasi.

[@belati]

kalau saya suka kata origin tanpa "AB" krn kata Aborigin mereka sndiri yg menamai untuk penduduk aslinya, usaha mengaburkan sejarah oleh penjajah supaya benua Ausy terkesan isinya pendatang smua

[@YoanShaputraa]

@@Aloha_aloha_ jaga mulutmu bisa mati nanti , bukan kami yg membunuhnya tapi ditaktor militer yg melakukan .

[@IErfanCN]

​@@YoanShaputraa lu bocil?

[@namasayaek4]

Next target Papua 😥 makanya gonjang ganjing melulu

[@darren5971]

You fool no one alive today was part of that .But on the other hand slimy Indonesia is butchering west papuans

[@elrumi6341]

US and Australia: "go Indonesia, don't let East Timor get their independence" Also Australia: "we support East Timor independence"

[@777arksMa77_RGM]

Just to hide that Australia is a state of America

[@WhyAlwaysMeOfficial]

Australia : kami sebenarnya dua orang ☝️😅

[@ignatiusryd2031]

Australia itu ibarat pasien pengidap Bipolar akut. Cocotnya gak bisa dipercaya karena gampang berubah drastis tergantung moodnya.

[@qu3tzal790]

Indonesia: 🗿

[@armantape]

😅

[@ilovetoseetits]

They never teach any of these in Australia or NZ public.

[@HindsightYT]

Yeah I also felt that the topic was underexposed.

[@mikhail2446]

That's because this is an international scandal. I also just found out about this scandal a few years back after the juice media posted about it on KZbin with title "Honest government ad Timor Leste" Witness K and his lawyer Bernard Collaery were the first Australians to whistle blow about this scandal. However Witness K and Bernard Collaery then was shut-downed and jailed in 2013 by the Australian government. They got released in 2022 after the international pressures.

[@ignatiusryd2031]

​@@HindsightYT That is because its hugely embarrasing. Even the whistleblower that were exposing this issue to the public were imprisoned by Australian govt with treason charges put against him.

[@diantoxentar5236]

Because they don't have gut to tell they children they steal from a poor

[@tgy_au7464]

Not sure which part of Aus you're at, but I was taught these in school

[@yosichadutawisnuandika5168]

it is common knowledge among ASEAN that the issue of the sale of gas and oil in Timor Leste has many irregularities. How can Timor Leste, the country that owns gas, receive 20% of the sales and 80% of the sales are received by the 2nd party, the processor and seller of oil and gas, namely Australia, so what Timor Leste dreams of after 20 years of independence wants to be Singapore, but it is different with reality. But what I emphasize is that it's their personal problem, I don't care 😂😅.

[@125discipline2]

betul bang. udah jadi masalah mereka. mereka ngira kemakmuran bakal datang instan setelah merdeka, tp nyatanya mereka gak punya kekuatan militer, diplomatik, strategis lain. di mata internasional, mereka ini kaya lapangan kosong tanah merah yang lepas dari indonesia, makanya langsung dimakan habis. karena dipegang lama2 juga gak ada nilai long-term.

[@TheMan-xp4cb]

Even when East Timor was fighting Indonesia Australia was digging & stealing their oil

[@ElKhozyn-ie6fi]

Mereka kira bakal jd kyk Singapore 😂😂😂 padahal sdm nya orng" Hutan

[@mradvokat6703]

​@@ElKhozyn-ie6fi singapoor kale om🎉

[@nanareyhan56]

​@@ElKhozyn-ie6fi singapore gak punya sda tapi sdm singapore unggul Sedangkan tim-les apakabar sda & sdmnya

[@aungmyintoo4635]

I always thought Australia is East Timor's friend. Never expected they (Australia) will cheat their poor and small neighbor.

[@steveman888]

Lessons learnt bro, why do you think Pak Jokowi reach to Timles ? he is really sincere wanted to help TimLes, that is why he sponsored TimLes into ASEAN.

[@mr_alderson]

Sesungguhnya kami indonesia juga cukup kecewa dengan TL, pada masa awal kemerdekaan indonesia dan bergabung nya TL dalam NKRI, pemerintah kami telah begitu banyak memprioritaskan TL lebih dari provinsi manapun, itu memberikan kecemburuan dari berbagai pihak, tapi kemudian kami memahami bahwa sesunguhnya TL pada saat itu benar tertinggal dari daerah lainnya. Kami semua memaklumi itu dan menggangap mereka sodara kami yang harus perjuangkan juga. Kemudian tiba suatu kejadian pihak oposisi melakukan profokasi besar besaran menciptakan opini publik menggangap indonesia adalah bangsa penjajah. Itu sangat keterlaluan Menurut kami. Bagaimana mungkin kami berjuang untuk mereka kemudian mereka menghianati indonesia. Jika kami berkata bohong maka lihat saat ini, bagaimana indonesia begitu toleransi terhadap seluruhnya, ras, suku, agama bukan sebuah hambatan untuk kita bersatu padu. Dunia internasional mengakui itu. Bangsa indonesia adalah yang paling toleran dan ramah antar sesama manusia. Dengan pemimpin kami saat ini presiden jokowi, persatuan dan kesatuan kami semakin kuat untuk menjadi bangsa yang besar, maju, bersaing dalam international. Ini sebuah pembelajaran bagi kita semua. Dan sejarah adalah sebaik baiknya ilmu.

[@mr_alderson]

Tapi bagaimanapun itu, sampai dengan saat ini indonesia masih tetap membuka hubungan diplomasi yang baik dengan timor leste. Dan taukah anda 80% produk industry yang beredar di timor leste itu semua berasal dari indonesia. Bermainlah ke indonesia, dengan begitu anda akan merasakan bahwa masyarakat kami begitu toleran terhadap sesama.

[@mr_alderson]

Actually, we Indonesians are quite disappointed with TL. During the early days of Indonesian independence and TL's inclusion in the Republic of Indonesia, our government prioritized TL more than any other province. This caused jealousy among various parties. However, we later understood that TL was truly lagging behind other regions. We all understood and considered them as our brothers who also needed to struggle. Then, an incident occurred where the opposition provoked on a large scale, creating public opinion that Indonesia was a colonizing nation. We find it outrageous. How could we fight for them only for them to betray Indonesia? If we were lying, just look at the present. See how Indonesia is so tolerant towards everyone, regardless of race, ethnicity, or religion. It is not a barrier for us to unite. The international community acknowledges that Indonesia is the most tolerant and friendly nation towards fellow human beings. Under our current leader, President Jokowi, our unity and solidarity are growing stronger to become a great nation, advancing and competing internationally. This is a lesson for all of us, and history is the best teacher.

[@ronzac55]

i mean Australia literally did a genocide to the indigenous people of the continental Australia. They won't side with the Indigenous people of East Timor

[@kenpamorndaru6968]

Australi mengintervensi timorleste dengan isu minyak dan kekayaan alam, seperti AS menginvasi irak dengan isu senjata biologi😅

[@darren5971]

Australia got involved in Timor through your stupid government asking us to .Indonesia couldn't control the problems there.

[@tobz475]

Mainnya kan selalu gitu dari dulu mereka, makanya penjajahan jaman sekarang dah beda kek dulu.

[@alvinart9371]

​@@tobz475penjajah dulu makenya kekerasan ya ga sih bro hehe,,, tpi skarang lebih cenderung tipu muslihatnya 😁

[@tobz475]

@@alvinart9371 Iya mengatasnamakan kemerdekaan sekarang, dibungkus dengan propaganda pelanggaran ham. Begitu dah merdeka ditunggu 1 dekade lebih baru disedot ampe kempot SDA nya.

[@kucinghitam4322]

​@@alvinart9371dari dulu pake tipu muslihat gan, makanya Jepang aman. Karena gk ada yg boleh masuk.

[@rayden5508]

East Timorese: Australia is our friend. Australia: Awww. Thanks little guys. We got your oil. 😂😂

[@PissMenn]

Actually the Oil rich Nation of Timor even did smuggling petrol from Indonesia 😂

[@steveman888]

Yes Pertamina let it happen , same as buying lots of cheap Indonesian products and food. Indonesia built TimLes their new airport as well ( not Australia).

[@chawza8402]

I think diplomatic games. We let them use IDR and our border market so they can rely on us. So if they wan't to align with those westoids, we can do some soft power on them lol. Just like how US controll Indonesia's policy.

[@grahamtrigwell3042]

Australia complained bitterly about China's 9 dot line when in fact Australia was guilty of changing the international sea border with East Timor even when the courts agreed with Timor Woodside angle drilled under the border and stole Timor's oil and gas

[@danielbroomhall8882]

are you insane? china 9 dot line extends far beyond china territory, it almost touches Australia international waters, this comparison is insane. Whereas Australia claims part of that sea that East Timor also claims, and if you look at the map, both countries are pretty much same distance from the oil reserves.

[@NightPhoenix.Y]

​@@danielbroomhall8882 bro u coping and you know it, where tf is Indonesia then, your sabre rattling is insane, plz touch some grass

[@billshi6005]

​@@danielbroomhall8882the southermost point of 9 dash line is more than 2000 km from Australia's sea border, it is not even close to it. Unless Aussie want to expand their sea border 2000km north?

[@danielbroomhall8882]

@@NightPhoenix.Y it is the reality, china is the worst country of the region and no one talks about anything they do.

[@danielbroomhall8882]

@@billshi6005 so is it okay for a country to out of nowhere say their borders go beyond their shores and even touches other countries shores? Bro, you must be a typical Chinese who lives in a foreign country and still wanna defend china lol....

[@myconnection3665]

at that time Indonesia poured out a lot of state budget funds to develop the East Timor province compared to other provinces. but it instead becomes like milk in return for poison water.

[@antoniusferdinand1681]

WKWKWKKWWKWK ngakak "milk in return of poison water" 🤣🤣 Air susu dibalas air tuba ya 👍😄

[@ian7033-qj9wg]

But Indonesia did invade them. And then attempted genocide. Remember?

[@tilting_cat3344]

​@@ian7033-qj9wg then they should stop begging Indonesia to help them get in ASEAN as they have none to offer the group.

[@ernaherlina8014]

​@@ian7033-qj9wgdo you realise that Indonesia was under Soeharto dictatorship regime back then ? East Timorese were not the only ones suffered. Many people suffered. Millions of people died in other parts of Indonesia under Soeharto regime (including in Java) but the Western media close their eyes and their hearts and only paid attention toward East Timorese. I grew up during the regime and remember feeling envious toward East Timorese back then. Soeharto regime gave them extra money and budget taken from the resources of other provinces, but they were still complaining and the Western media listened to them. I was actually relieved when they got independence. They were literally Beban (burden) for other provinces.

[@KraussMaffei76]

​@@ian7033-qj9wgin support of US and Australia, remember?

[@yusprinandy]

since a long time Indonesia is the biggest supporter for East Timor and recommended it to join ASEAN, tho other countries like Singapore strongly rejected it due to economic reason.. but finally east timor is accepted... proof that Indonesia had a bigger heart and still supportive no matter what happened in the past

[@bockeemusic]

it's more like Indonesia is feeling guilty that it has invaded and created a lot of chaos in Timor Leste for more than 25 years, so Indonesia feels like it needs to do something to compensate what it has done to TL.

[@zakb7418]

East timor should glad have neighboor like indonesia, otherwise if indonesia have greedy like australia, timor leste is going to shithole

[@levyzach8485]

@@bockeemusic guilty?. Lol. Ain't no guilty in the real world. Indonesia gave them a chance, 2nd chances to join ASEAN just because they pity them.

[@deanbowie3774]

@@bockeemusic Indonesia not feeling guilty, Aussie should most feeling guilty. White Colonialist still exist until today, Indonesia so very understand how cruel White country to inverting other nation.

[@poperatatooiel6768]

@@bockeemusic Thats funny coming from someone who live in a country where they make their own chaosity and instability, You guys should feel guilty for your own damn selves, By the way have fun dreaming becoming a sucessful and striving country like singapore 😂

[@yourmajestythequeen8147]

Back in the early 2000s Australians label Indonesians oppressors for “invading” a small helpless country that is timor (which have always been indonesian, speak indonesian, and half of it is still comfortable being officially indonesian). And it’s not like Indonesia can do anything with UN and the rest of western civilization uniting to back Australia. Plus if anything, in SEA the mentality isn’t like your typical oppressor mentality. People here prefer avoiding confrontation even if it means losing, that’s why we don’t need ASEAN as much as Europe needs EU. So there have your timor, and look at the real aggressor now. Nobody helped Timor during Covid, even their president had to slave to help their people. Where’s Australia, who claimed to be savior of the Timor people? Does Australia care? Not at all, because Australia never did. Daddy UK would be so proud.

[@tonystarks2650]

The tens of thousands of innocent civilians that were massacred would probably have a different opinion about who the 'real aggressors' were.

[@juamu1132]

@@tonystarks2650 and what did you get in return. singapoor hahahaha

[@isuriadireja91]

@@tonystarks2650 tell that to the aborigines in australia, the natives in america (north to south) and africans (especially the congo and south africa).... how many of them got massacred by their invaders, oppressors and colonizers..??

[@libra9381]

​@@tonystarks2650They've been known as colonizers throughout history of human civilizations yet u still believed everything they promised u? at least Africa and most of Asia's countries have learned to not take any of their bullshits anymore.

[@tonystarks2650]

@@isuriadireja91 You need to google 'whataboutism'. We are talking about East Timor. Nobody is making a case for pro colonialism - you are completely lost.

[@justarandompotato6272]

Habibie did the right thing by allowing Timor Leste to be independent. Their independence helped us lessen our already heavy burden thanks to 1998 monetary crisis, the fall of soeharto and new order, and reformation. As for the oil reserve? We have something more lucrative than oil called nickel

[@kadekdezz]

Nickel is cheap af (for country) it won't improve your country economy

[@ignatiusryd2031]

@@kadekdezz If its cheap then why EU now still trapped in a long trade dispute with Indonesia on WTO just because Indonesia change the regulations since 2010 to force every mining companies (domestic and internationals alike) in Indonesia to set up their smelters in Indonesia rather than in their home countries?? At this moment Indonesia still fighting with EU because EU saw that regulation potentially spell a huge deathblow to EV industries in their continent. Oh, don't forget that Indonesia also has make EU jolted to near-panic condition when Indonesia say "no coal shipments to EU for 6 months due to domestic shortages" right when EU desperately importing huge number of coals for the incoming winter during the first year of the war in Ukraine.

[@bayunovriandijust6989]

@@kadekdezz its cheap its you sell it raw. But its more worth if you make itu to a product like a battery from nickel That why europe not want indonesia stop export indonesia raw nickel because Nickel its so good for modern energy resource.

[@aasakti_]

@@kadekdezz cheap, but can become expensive battery and stainless steel

[@agaXM]

@@kadekdezz bro has zero iq, nickel can be further processed into Battery and that is essential for electronic device, electric vehicles and more and if nickel is worthless why does EU begs our country to stop the Nickel export ban?

[@wisnuonly2108]

Indonesia lepas timur Timor/timur leste tidak menyesal. Indonesia punya NTT labuan bajo surga buat wisata. Timur leste punya minyak bisa habis

[@redeunuch2989]

Shut up man.

[@nicoooticooo]

KTT ASEAN di Bajo sebagai "hadiah" bagi warga NTT, promosi pariwisata. while East Timor still struggling with Aussie.

[@aozoraaoi3745]

jaman jokowi jd gubernur dki jokowi membantu ntt dgn meminta ntt menjadi sentra penggemukan sapi dan mengirim kapal khusu untuk mengangkut sapi dari NTT untuk dki. (sentra penggemukan sapi umumnya di (tangerang bogor) Jokowi sudah nkri dari jaman gubernur.

[@PissMenn]

Back then they actually said wants to emulate the success of Singapore after separated from Malaysia but now Timor barely reach Bali economy let alone Singapore 😂

[@steveman888]

no wrong , they even can't reach NTT economy 😂😂😂😂

[@panurotomangkuwanito4728]

They can't even reach west Timor economy. Even if west Timor does not have any oil and gas at all 🤦‍♂️🤭

[@sarwonotama7875]

Please stop it 😅 let them have their 'freedom'

[@anaskhoiri3653]

West Timor have Komodo,Labuan Bajo,Wild Horse in Sumba,and thousand cattle in their savvana better than East Timor combined

[@backpackpepelon3867]

"Freedom" 🤣

[@abigailflores2310]

Thanks a lot for this video. I'm teaching civics to grades 7, 8 and 9 in Timor Leste and this video is very helpful. Please do more videos like this about Timor Leste and its economy.

[@BEN_DESCARTES]

the people of Timor Leste don't learn, Australia knows that a small country doesn't deserve to exist so it orders Indonesia to invade. after independence just know right? that Timor Leste shouldn't exist because it makes its people miserable

[@narcat3999]

Please teach them about a dangerously depleted Australian Defence Force in post Vietnam War 1975. Also, teach them about the thousands of Australian soldiers who FOUGHT to secure East Timor's independence from 1999 - 2002 and went on to supply and train the new nation until 2008. Now they want to cut Australia out all together giving complete control of the region to it's next genocidal invasion leaders whilst the refugees can only head south to where? Most importantly, teach them about propaganda. I'm not having a go at you and I think your work over there is invaluable. I'm just sad for the families of the Australian soldiers who died for nothing.

[@atoycarmo3458]

​@@narcat3999 do you took about history but do you forget about our history to help you fight with japan in ww2 are you forget that history...how many Timor Leste people die ww2 between you and Japan fight

[@dntking40]

​@@narcat3999 Australian soldiers died for Australian dominance in the region. They don't care about coloured people and their independence.

[@samuraiboi2735]

@@atoycarmo3458 timor leste at the time wasn't independent its mostly indonesiansso its indonesia getting the pain not timor leste cus it never existed at the time

[@scottyflex]

Timor Leste: "My brother Indonesia, please help me. Aussie steal my oil 😭" Indonesia: "That's not my business little bro 😎"

[@manggority751]

Indonesia : Enjoy you dream son...!!

[@bambamkitring6666]

Lol 😂😂😂

[@ApromiMuhlisinFauzi]

Look bro, theyre not stealing, they just taking pay-check over your freedom 😂😂😂

[@mradvokat6703]

Your bro, NOT our.

[@MrDanni312]

it's more like TL was the wife who left her husband for another man, it turned out that man was a fraud. And the husband was like, "I don't care, not my problem."

[@haris8906]

contoh nyata untuk provinsi2 lain di indo kalau kita bercerai berai/balkanisasi

[@nashcomp]

Idah dilakuin dari zaman pra kemerdekaan dan sampai sekarang, adu domba, perang suku dan etnis dan isu sara cuma ya susah karena mayoritas disini Muslim dan mereka diajarkan utk selalu membela sesama.

[@Netizen-alam-lain]

Sedari awal tim-tim bukan bagian dari belanda tapi portugis

[@yogasetiaone]

Why East Timor not joint Australia Oceania... But they want to join ASEAN 😂

[@fauziahmad7054]

They know being fooled for years lol

[@yosichadutawisnuandika5168]

when Timor Leste became independent, Australia's target was the economically backward population in the outback, so rationality didn't help much. but after 20 years of independence, with the windows of the internet open all over the world and information that is easily accessible, their stupidity makes a valuable lesson that keeping hold of Australia's thigh is only true stupidity so that Timor Leste prefers to join ASEAN rather than the Oceania association pioneered by Australia, You will know what Oceania Association is like after seeing their economy than ASEAN 😅🤣

[@agengsatya96]

in football, australia is asia now, not oceania 😂

[@bambamkitring6666]

Oceania will cheat Timor leste more... They know the right group 😂

[@INDONESIABUBAR2030BYSPIZYDORI]

​@@Aloha_aloha_ Yang nawarin Malingsia lah😂

[@lookus1324]

thank you for this information, at least the people of Papua who still insist on separating from Indonesia, then Timor Leste is an example of Australia's false promise

[@ian7033-qj9wg]

Australia does not support West Papuan independence.

[@hilmannajib]

@@ian7033-qj9wg well, not officially lol

[@tilting_cat3344]

​@@ian7033-qj9wg classic west tactic fund separatist then swoop in to harvest

[@ian7033-qj9wg]

@@tilting_cat3344 You snooze, you lose.

[@yandinp8874]

It just bunch of minority with a gun supplied from 'outta nowhere' who wanted to secede from Indonesia because some kind of deal behind the scene :v

[@andimilan5348]

Australia: let's fool other "natives".😂 Now you can see how the gap is between Timor Leste and neighboring Indonesia's NTT. Good luck for the people of Timor Leste, enjoy independence by giving charity to Australia.🎉🎉🎉

[@osheridan]

As an Australian it annoys me that people here and elsewhere have no empathy with Timor for what's happening. WE are the one exploiting them and should be the ones held accountable, not them

[@andimilan5348]

@@osheridan I empathize with people of East Timor for the natural resources that Australia has drained.

[@evannave9718]

@@osheridan Is Australia that good? Australia supports an independent Timor Leste because Timor Leste is stupid and weak, where Timor Leste is independent it will be weak in terms of defense, economy, mindset. Australia understands better and it is easier to argue with an independent Timor Leste, oil can be obtained, Timor Leste's economy can be regulated. Everything will be easier when Timor Leste stands alone without having to fear threats. Timor Leste for Australia is a small pebble that can be played behind the scenes! If someone says Australia supports Timor Leste because of human rights, that thought is stupid and stupid, while Australia has a problem with aboriginal people. !🤣🤣🤣

[@maddiphen2538]

You missed a point. We all know the real villain(s) but what make it such a pity was the fact that Indonesia tried to free foreign influences on East Timor and make the foundation for the people to learn the national language and assimilate them into NKRI as one nation which didn't only takeplace in East Timor but on all the territories that later the Dutch return to Indonesia. No other places called it 'aggression/invasion', but because of the other parties with interests, created unrest, and the rest is history. I'm not discrediting what East Timor experienced for their independence and Indonesia wasn't perfect there were many events took place to shape it to what it is today, but Indonesia intention was never to rob East Timor, yet they rather listen and take the hand of hungry foxes for 'independence'. Ones reaped what they sow.

[@bardgold4553]

Give Australia back to the Aboriginals.

[@YoanShaputraa]

Expectation : Singapore Reality : Singapoor 😊

[@sammidul4080]

Good one 😂

[@heliodossantosdacostaolive75]

🤣🤣🤣 You guys are jealous rn, just wait and see, we will more better than you😎😎😎

[@BEN_DESCARTES]

@@heliodossantosdacostaolive75 deluded

[@adrianmiftahuli3021]

@@heliodossantosdacostaolive75 snap back to reality

[@SCHLAGEN_]

​@@heliodossantosdacostaolive75 snap back to reality dude

[@giL_codeA53]

The history of the Australian nation is a criminal

[@rusman6777]

Australia and New Zealand are countries invaded by white people. They sailed to other people's countries and placed mining jobs in countries that had gold, such as Australia and NZ. In the past, when there was no media information, white people who entered Australia and NZ carried out massacres against indigenous people. and of course the aborigines were finished and the country was taken over by these white people

[@sadewo1516]

in first place, australian is a exile inland for criminal from europe

[@nicschintee1511]

Nah its not, probably ur country is more criminal than ours. Those oil and gas fields are part of the australian continental shelf so its ours, end of story. STFU

[@DareGuns]

Yes

[@quzuqbotak]

Aborigin 😅

[@Lukas_6_ayat_12]

Where there are abundant natural resources. That's where the US, UK and Australia are involved in your country!

[@gracasilver8574]

Isso mesmo !... 👍

[@Enseaclopedia]

INA invade TL with US and AUS permission. TL get independent with AUS help. AUS just help if they get benefits out of it. Even TL is still on INA side and want to join ASEAN instead of whatever those Pacific Islands Cooperation is. And INA still give a hand and push their membership.

[@PissMenn]

TL got their independence not merely because AUS and US help it's also from the EU lead by Portugal, and China. The first country who established embassy over there was China. Might as well the Soviet helped Fretlin during 2 decades against Indonesian forces. So it's the world order, in fact Australia was the late comer, didn't actually support TL independence they just advised Indonesia to do referendum, it's during Indonesian crisis era as well in late 90's.

[@steveman888]

​@@PissMenn No wonder China helped them because Indonesia at that time was a US lapdog...so you can understand why we reproach China and Russia after 2002. Jokowi after 2014 cemented Indonesia relationship with China and Russia. Detaching from US influence is the best policy.

[@Enseaclopedia]

@@PissMenn most of the protest for TL independence is in Australia, most of the pro TL independence timorese refugees fled to Australia, till the short-reigned Indonesian president approved the referendum they then flocked back to TL. All UN mission mostly led by Australian Force, except UNMISET I believe as per the video said about their dispute of the oil field in 2004. The UN transition authority force, UNTAET, led by Australian force, even ANZACs the coalition troops of Australia and New Zealand participate with massive force. After independence, there's still turmoil here and there in 2006 and UN formed peacekeeping force UNMIT and ofc led by Australian force. So ofc not solely because of Australia, but Australia is always in the frontline.

[@warsyikaaman3308]

​@@PissMenn apa kau lupa Ramos Horta juga berlindung di sana Amerika dan sekutunya ini munafik berbeda dgn China dan Rusia

[@ibnu_86]

​@@PissMenndoing a referendum or Australian royal marine force battleship aiming their missile to Jakarta 😂 It's common secret spread among Indonesian people

[@DiniKusuma]

Many ppl think Australia had helped East Timor to get their independence ... but Do they know that it was Australia that actually asked Suharto to invade East Timor after Portuguese left in 1970s Why ?? ... because Fretilin - The Revolutionary Front for an Independent East Timor - was a nationalist lefty that had strong socialist beliefs toward Marxism plus ... Suharto and his regime was basically just USA's puppet leader Speaking of Cold War with all of its hypocrisy and propaganda

[@27paradise96]

Timor Leste (1999) : we don't need ASEAN Timor Leste (2023) : ???? 😂😂

[@netrubbish]

Itu lah akibat sikap arogan. Skrg jilat ludah sendiri karena TL skrg mau jadianggota Asean.

[@mariaannainditahernawati7132]

orang yg sama kan hehehe

[@qakun-ig9ev]

I need Asean now. Indonesia, help me please 😂😂

[@urclue]

@@TechnAI489- i hope Singapore keep rejecting 😂 i am Indonesian but Indonesia needs to sit down in this case

[@veterinarianputra8383]

I remembered some KZbinrs from US, make funny parodi video about this. How Timor so bad right now after get sucked the oil by Australian. Remember guys?

[@trioresmitaadi5307]

Link videonya dong...

[@INDONESIABUBAR2030BYSPIZYDORI]

​@@trioresmitaadi5307 thejuicemedia

[@INDONESIABUBAR2030BYSPIZYDORI]

Itu dari Australia juga youtubers nya bukan US

[@EukalyptusBonBon]

Remember when they said “We despise ASEAN, we doesn’t need Asean” yet now they are begging to get in 😂

[@urclue]

LMAO fr. They were once said "We are not Asian," but now look who's begging to get into ASEAN. How shameless 😂

[@sharkfish2406]

It's sad that after they left Indonesia, even now Timor Leste is still being talked about in ASEAN countries, because there are several countries that refuse to join it for several reasons including: 1. Language, they have to eliminate Portuguese and change to English. 2. currency, they must no longer use USD currency because now ASEAN has started using its own currency, while their currency "centavos" has no value abroad, 3. ASEAN considers that their democracy has not gone well like gangsters which might damage ASEAN's image 4. Their domestic income is still very minimal because they are a consumptive country so their economy is very low among ASEAN countries and is considered unprofitable😭😭😭

[@parosonder]

in your opinion.. Will TL really be able to join ASEAN later? because currently his status is still as an observer, not a permanent member. but if they join, there will be many changes to ASEAN such as the logo and others. do all countries support TL membership?? Is there a country that still refuses??

[@ReRandii]

@@parosonder I guess singapore still rejecting them..that's the only one that I know..

[@94snapazzurri]

@@ReRandii Myanmar and Vietnam also rejected TL admisson into Asean beside SG

[@ignatiusryd2031]

​@@parosonderSingapore adamantly still reject TL, and during ASEAN Summit in Labuhan Bajo last month everyone can see Singaporean PM were showing a very unpleasant look when watching TL PM went to the podium for some speeches. No changes in ASEAN logo but its obvious for TL that their full membership status is still on a "probation" since they were coming to ASEAN Summit not as ASEAN member but as a guest invited by Indonesian govt

[@인형바보]

From what I've read, they refuse TL as part of ASEAN because if they were to become part of ASEAN, other ASEAN country has to help them economically and financially. So basically more people to share the dough with and who are the biggest dough maker in ASEAN? That's right, it's SG, Malaysia, Vietnam, Thailand and Indonesia.

[@earljames7478]

so simple,Australia supported east timor independence because it is easier to steal from a developing country than having conflict with a bigger country like indonesia

[@luisgomes6407]

Then you f**king forgot about the deal sign insjde the airplane between indonesia leaded and australian leader over the oil when australia support indonesia invaded Timot in 1975. Shame on you

[@patropata6621]

Australia are "protecting" the oil....just like the US are doing in Syria...

[@w.suwanda-ux1dm]

Free oil only for Australia, pay for independen new colony, it's just modern Colonial

[@Myticalcattnip]

Yeah they take your financial not a land because too useless

[@prtiqballs]

Better to work on their natural resources than their people tho. Aussies just being realistic.

[@andyburn7288]

East Timor 100% got pranked by Australia

[@keythegreat4282]

Seems like a gold digger to me 😅, no one pranked East Timor! When they got divorced, it will be 50-50 as always, and somehowe, sometimes 80-20😅

[@agussaputro2113]

That's so ironic because TL got Financial aid until more than USD 10 Billions when they live under Indonesia Government and Jakarta also build some of infrastructure, send more teachers and scholarships to study in universities in Java Island. More Ironically when TL didn't want to Join Melanesia or Pasific Organizations or Communities rather then want to join ASEAN instead.

[@pritaf.s3637]

They were too traumatized to go there rather prefer to come back to their roots which is Nusantara/ Indonesia/ ASEAN

[@isuriadireja91]

@@pritaf.s3637 it's ppl like jose-huerta and gusmao, who were more "western"-oriented..and tend to see themselves as superior than asians...who wanted to separate themselves from ASIA entirely...

[@ungas024]

10 Billion Dollars? Cool story bro, Indonesians are dirt poor, do you honestly think that you can put 10 Billion dollars on a province with 1 million residents?

[@GoneThru]

East Timor when got that raw resources Australia : "Hey, you wanna be friends?i can give you independence" East Timor when their resources got sucked dry Australia : "Who are you again?"

[@familyandfriends3519]

Australia crated Timor Leste

[@harukrentz435]

do you know why Indonesia exist in the first place? because we were sick and tired of being divided and exploited by richer countries. What happens to TL nowadays is exactly what happened to our grandfathers in the past, being svcked dry to the point we were TOO POOR just to buy sandals to cover our feet. We are not rich but we are not extremely poor either, we have got many subsidies from gasoline, electricity to (even) cooking oil, we even have the most affordable universal healthcare in the world called BPJS which only cost $5-12 a month.

[@slookipos]

I don't get those privileges outside of Java wtf

[@skysunknownheroes]

@slookipos bro i live in NTT and not rich but im much happier here than imagining living in east timor

[@YataTheFifteenth]

we do????? I mean I know our healthcare's pretty decent but most affordable??? That's news to me.

[@pluviophile612]

​@@slookiposwhere do you live?? In a cave?? I already visited 24 province in Indonesia, like its really hard for me to find any village that has no benefit under Indonesia goverment

[@excalibro8365]

@@pluviophile612 You didn't look hard enough, or you are lying about having visited all the provinces. Even if the government did anything to regions outside of Java, it's only the bare minimum to keep them "happy" enough not to secede. We get bread crumbs for every buffet the Java mainlanders get to eat.

[@Wewe_123]

Sorry to say, that east timor has no patience to wait the development program from Indonesia and doing such stupid things called independence which is drive by other country that can took all the advantage and resources from them.. and where east timor people still can developt or manage that high value natural resource and energy

[@ganjarwb57]

Indonesia should take note and also renegotiate the maritime border with Australia to use the median line as East TImor did..

[@narcat3999]

If Timor nullifies it's agreement with Australia they will control the whole oil region. Then Indonesia invades again and takes all of it. I don't think those oil companies will be able to protect them, nor will they care.

[@dragonmyballsz268]

nah, just let them be, we r not going to touch this matter again, not even with other countries support or native people support (the video didnt mention the support of Fretilin opposition party, and only mention USA and Aussie) we got backstabbed, tricked, and quite possibly bamboozled.

[@ian7033-qj9wg]

Go for it. Christmas Island is 350 k from Indonesia.

[@amarhadjimurad2363]

What will happen to East Timor if oil run out

[@2Sage-7Poets]

they will migrate to australia

[@amarhadjimurad2363]

@@2Sage-7Poets they will become refugees to Indonesia the other will go to.....

[@zackacosta6286]

Timor will never run way, we have a hero to handle this complications

[@amarhadjimurad2363]

@@zackacosta6286 really

[@amarhadjimurad2363]

@@zackacosta6286 Timor Leste buying good and product from Indonesia second their to dependent on Indonesia for their survival has country......you so called hero promise prosperous and rich country like Dubai.

[@yitnawulan5672]

Definisi lolos dari lubang buaya masuk ke kandang singa 😂

[@mikaylaanindya3548]

Indonesia never colonized Timor Leste, before they became independent Timor Leste was one of the provinces in Indonesia which even at that time received a lot of financial support from the central government,

[@Myticalcattnip]

One problem is the financial support got taken by corruptor president before habibie aka soeharto(all resource for java island is bullshit)

[@nowiamincollege]

no, lihat videonya. Secara de facto dan jure wilayah indonesia adalah jajahan BELANDA. trmsk papua. Timor leste itu PORTUGAL, disitu mkny disebut menjajah. jgn denial jdi org indonesia

[@nicoooticooo]

Indonesia menjajah timor itu fakta, karena wilayah kekuasaan yang diakui indonesia adalah bekas wilayah jajahan belanda. kesalahan indonesia hanya 1, pembantaian santa cruz. Kesalahan indonesia mutlak dimata internasional, andai saja itu ga terjadi, indonesia masih punyan ksempatan diplomasi untuk aneksasi.

[@nowiamincollege]

@@nicoooticooo nah, bnyk bgt yg deniall

[@fahrifahri3876]

​@@nicoooticooo bener sih bro, andai aja dulu pemimpin kita gak galak banget, paling Timor Leste masih punya kita

[@samuelhenkven]

One of the timing bomb is, indonesia not yet ratified its border with TL and aussie, since new border TL and Aussie there is big gap to old border with ID, so if ID follow the median line like TL, its a big problem for Ausiie, timing bomb, so aussie must be nice to ID

[@betawikid]

The price of Freedom within white power... "Its must tkae be my mine" Australia said

[@sasmitowibowo5976]

Unlike most Western people, Indonesians tend positive thinking people. Though, initially the US and Australia provoked Indonesia to take over East Timor, worrying it could had changed to communist country, but later provoked East Timor people to fight for independence. In fact, occupying East Timor was costly and making jealous of other provinces. After East Timor independence, Indonesia gets benefit the most. Portugal is not much help East Timor. Economically, East Timor relays on Indonesia. Most good and services are provided by Indonesia at good prices, but still competitive at international market. Whereas Indonesia no need to set aside its budget for East Timor. The East Timor budget is provided tnrough East Timor oil which managed by UN and Australia.

[@aditgame1949]

Dan Indonesia tidak akan seperti itu lagi di bohongin terus

[@kickingice9407]

you now, indonesian help timor leste to join asean

[@amronboy4871]

East Timor still poor Country right now.

[@heliodossantosdacostaolive75]

🤣🤣Bro Your country Have poorest people as well, Banyak orang Miskin di jalanan hahaha Kasian selali

[@queenD1818]

Kemiskinan di Indonesia hanya 9,6% dari 270 juta penduduk but Timmy 42% dari 1,3 juta penduduk, it means setengah dari penduduk lo kismin.

[@ndorobei4391]

Australia has the biggest gold reserve in the world. And already a rich country. Why doest it still need poor Timorese oil?

[@Enseaclopedia]

Western ideology, extract everything you can get especially if it's not in your territory.

[@whysanjay3074]

Greedy

[@Don69Muk]

Fu*** Greedy 😂😂😂

[@fauziahmad7054]

Almost is never enough tho

[@steveman888]

what Gold ? it is in Papua

[@Revolussioner]

They (east timor) never learn huh

[@OldToothbrush0210]

The same may happen to Papua should they win their independence

[@pacarnyazee]

Become the poorest country in asia

[@indorailfans2532]

@@pacarnyazee and always civil war

[@Nomnomnom12]

​@@indorailfans2532 like new guinea😂

[@f.s.firdaus8106]

Beware Australian, British, New Zealander, and American hungry eyes.

[@mr_alderson]

Seperti nya itu tidak berlaku untuk papua, disana berlimpah sumber daya alam yang sangat banyak dan kita tidak bisa membayangkan itu. Saya pikir indonesia tidak akan begitu saja melepaskan papua.

[@ArdenzL]

East Timor : Done, Next Target : West Papua.

[@amarhadjimurad2363]

The result was that Australia and Indonesia have bad relationship tell today

[@steveman888]

yes we do not trust ever anglo Saxons.

[@dharmasatya3265]

I've heard from my parents, because I'm Balinese so I know, in the past TL was very behind so the government held a Transmigration There program, which made many entrepreneurs open businesses there which opened up jobs there so the economy was running there, and the Balinese were one of them there. Build a business. but on the other hand it creates social jealousy (this is the same as ethnic Chinese building businesses in Indonesia and being successful), which is the root of the problem of this conflict.

[@ignatiusryd2031]

From what i heard from many ex-Transmigrant in TL, unlike natives in other places, the east timorese were absolutely lazy as heck, even to this date a very minority number of Indonesians in there (6000 Indonesians) were all dominating SME sector on TL

[@junhaozheng5692]

The basic rules of economy runs in the labor forces, and systematic values as well as good will trading spirit. Well, guess its not sth they quite gets it.

[@drondos]

What happened there? why are they the poorest country? they should be more prosperous

[@tun2w]

At 2002 Timor Leste (formerly name East Timor) became independent from Indonesia. Since Timor Leste has oil field, they thought that they will be a prosperous country without Indonesia, an developing country. 20 years later, Timor Leste is one of the poorest countries in the world.

[@Don69Muk]

It's called "KARMA"

[@indras3028]

They are just stupid

[@GregorianMG]

​@@Don69MukWell in a way, right. However it's an unfortunate situation.

[@CleosetricVlyers]

Ohhh no wonder australia is also wanted papua to be independent, they wanted 2nd round jackpot

[@bayuww1417]

It is funny... How TL people call Indonesia colonist, But no with Portuguese which even prohibits passing the asphalt road and not builded Public Facilities for them. FYI, when first company Aussie army came to Dili by plane, they toughed Dili in a state of war. So they as fast as possible took a vital position. At that time, Brimob (paramilitary from police)still take a rest in tend had been surprise when Aussie army come to their tend. Them there was a shooting contact between the 2 parties. At that time, civil still live as usual. Aussie army can't tell difference between Fretilin army and civil and culture in TL. Actually there is a lot of fraud in referendum support by Aussie and Malaysia army. There is some journalist from Singapore and Thailand want to report it, but their News banned.

[@fananta1629]

lots of people, including separatist from East Timor don't know or don't want to know : 1. Indonesia at the Time is Under Dictatorship know as "Orde Baru" or "New Order" under 'Smilling General Soeharto' so life of other Indonesian aside of those in big cities in Java island not so good either. So it is not that we targeted only East Timor, we (Indonesian outside Java Island ) also get more less the same suffering. We even have "Tukang Bakso" joke to this day still infamous because it tell us younger genearation that the Soeharto Dictatorship Regime will mercilessly get rid of all of who oppose them by disguising Hitman as food vendor. 2. We build public Facilities (School. Hospital, Public trasportation Station Etc) and we create Public system which make East Timor be able to stand equal to all Indonesian in the sense of economic, security and Cultural Standing, which will take East TImor lost of time if they just do it themself. The hell we recognize East Timor is "Indonesian" right after they even join us because West Timor Practically the same Ethnic as East Timor with very same cultural afinity, we even create monument of Timor Leste in the form of making Replica of their cultural enviroment in "Taman Mini Indonesia Indah" as form of acknowledgement. 3. We Practically Gain NOTHING from those poor region, yes East Timor Have OIL AND GAS, but we didn't have the time to properly extract it we Indonesian busy making East Timor Decent place to Live 4. Australian Goverment involvement at security intervention start long before the Independence of East Timor took place. They manipulated the Referendum of East Timor Independence the news to make like Indonesian Army doing systematic genocide, why ? Because they took story from only East Timor Prespective without concerning the fatigue of Indonesian Army trying their best to stand ground and after unbearable ambush and sneak attack one by one Indonesian Army Finally start to seek and neutralize Rebel Camp. We Have right to do so as we Indonesian rightfully and obligatory defending our border at the time. But ofc we are the bad guy because we return fire after getting shot ? Balibo Five is the result of Australian Goverment Greed pushed upon Indonesian, they are the sacrificial lamb of Australian Goverment Greed and If you look at the video you can see Balibo Five Widow also protested at the decision of Australian goverment regarding East Timor Economic zone and Oil Extraction my source: - Timor Timur The Untold Story - Kiki Syahnakri ( Yogyakarta National University Archive) - Australian RIgged the Referendum Election is recognized by UNAMET = www.kompasiana.com/mozesadiguna/552fcec06ea8347e408b4661/kecurangan-unamet-dalam-referendum-di-timor-timur - Paper by University Student Studying the Australian Involvement and prove of cheating in Referendum election = www.academia.edu/16936241/Keterlibatan_Australia_Dalam_Referendum_Timor_Timur\ -The Support of Australian of Indonesian Ocupation and their policy to help Suppressing rebelion in East Timor (but somehow the first to call Human Right abuse LMAO) =The Dynamic of Indonesian Foreign Policy: A Contemporary Analysis www.academia.edu/15834487/Dinamika_Politik_Luar_Negeri_Indonesia_Sebuah_Analisis_Kontemporer_The_Dynamic_of_Indonesian_Foreign_Policy_A_Contemporary_Analysis_

[@fbichanneltechnology3027]

Indonesia dahulu menginvasi Timor Leste supaya tidak menjadi negara komunis dengan didukung oleh negara barat dan Indonesia pun juga memberikan banyak pembangunan di Timor Leste berupa sarana dan prasarana sampai banyak daerah Indonesia lainnya merasa iri Jadi keputusan Timor Leste yang memerdekakan diri dari Indonesia itu adalah keputusan mereka sendiri dan nikmatilah kemerdekaan kamu Nasi sudah menjadi bubur semoga Timor Leste mampu berkembang Salam dr Indonesia mantan saudara kamu

[@kars6026]

Nasi udah jadi bubur tinggal tambahin ayam, daun bawang, kacang, kecap dan sambal biar nikmat.

[@fbichanneltechnology3027]

@@kars6026 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@kucinghitam4322]

​@@kars6026itu dia masalahnya, tidak ada tambahannya

[@SHReview_SopianHadi]

Tidak ada yang cuma" 😅 australia

[@Lcheta35]

What are you tryna implying by that! Don't forget that your invasion is a crime: you kill, torture, rape and punish the people that basically just want to start their own life. Let's not deny the fact that you are also USA & Aussie toy. Nasi sudah menjadi bubur! We never regret for standing up for ourselves

[@ericongko44]

Then is East Timor get their independence that they want? Why they seem desperate? In my opinion, if they still stay with Indonesia, it can be diplomatically solve with Australia. Luckily for Indonesia who doesn't need to fight for oil of Timor sea. Because there are more resources in Indonesia than just 'oil' that can be exhausted sooner or later.

[@snmailist1470]

To solve this issue you have to contact Veronica Koman immediately!!!! 😅😅😅😅

[@INDONESIABUBAR2030BYSPIZYDORI]

Or Bima Lampung too😂

[@m.hidayatullohmustafid8596]

timor leste is the richest country in the asean region..even singapore can not reach their wealth

[@steveman888]

come on bro enough with the sarcasm 😂

[@m.hidayatullohmustafid8596]

@@steveman888 just believe it bro😁

[@yosichadutawisnuandika5168]

if it can process 95% of its own oil and gas resources, within a certain period of time 1999 to 2023 it may be true that Timor Leste can develop at least on a par with Cambodia or the Philippines, but because it is in the perpetual trap of Australia, then that is just wishful thinking 😊

[@steveman888]

@@yosichadutawisnuandika5168 TL need to pay the goons and the bodyguard ( the OZ and Yanks ) ...no free lunch bro 😂😂😂😂

[@steveman888]

@@yosichadutawisnuandika5168 The first step TL joins ASEAN, 2nd step form a consortium with Indonesia through Pertamina to develop the offshore Sunrise field..and because of our close relationship with the members of RCEP ( China, Hong Kong, Japan, South Korea) and Taiwan , we can easily sell the LNG to them. This will have enough revenues for TL to built the needed infrastructure, agro industry to be on par with it's more advanced neighbours ( NTT, Sumba, Flores etc ).

[@m.r8216]

Di pikir bakalan jadi negara Raja minyak..🤣🤣🤣🤭🤭🤭 ternyata Australia yg jd dapat minyak nya🤭🤭🤭

[@fallsmaps651]

this videos are so good. Keep it up 🎉

[@HindsightYT]

Thanks I appreciate that!

[@pippokillerman494]

Naa, not really. Dude give fair share of TL & AUS perspective but went full ignorant with Indonesian's. Only bother mention killing and ignore Indonesian effort through generations to helps TL peoples.

[@ryanrodrigues1166]

Australia: Act like a friend but stab from the back. Timore Leste has become a puppet of Australian oligarchs.

[@zealandia5668]

Using East Timor as a precedent, wouldn't Indonesia has the rights to renegotiate their maritime boundary with Australia?

[@MatthewShane]

Hopefully it will be done in the future

[@harrykumoro4335]

Indonesia=Russia Timor Leste=Ukraine Australia=USA Indonesia: Take Your Independence Timor Leste Australia: Glory Gospel And Gold

[@farosrohmangeloraramadan3897]

Emang udah saatnya Indonesia keluar dari GNB sih, India yang GNB aja lebih deket sama Russia

[@wilmarid5533]

Also Australia on West Papua : "gold gold gold gold gold 🤤🤤🤤".

[@metinatoon4438]

Orang TL bilang kita penjajah, saat mau masuk Asean malah minta tolong Indonesia... 😂

[@netrubbish]

Seharusnya Indonesia bersikap tegas, dan ngak usah terlalu baik. Sekalipun dulu "brothers" , mereka sendiri yg memutuskan hubungan tsb. You got what you wished for.

[@mariaannainditahernawati7132]

ini hanya bagian dari "drama" kita kan tahu utk masuk jadi anggota asean kan berdasarkan konsensus pak jokowi hanya lempar isyu kalau yg lain nggak peduli atau ogah ya timles harus terima nasib apalagi om ramos horta suka kali "mengkritik" anggota asean yg lain cambodia bisa galak lho apalagi vietnam

[@MbNFiles]

What application that you use in making this video Sir?

[@HindsightYT]

I used mostly Adobe After Effects.

[@suhendro_8627]

sometimes, FREEDOM was not free at all

[@TokMat_]

Pelajaran yang kita dapat adalah: jangan lah engkau durhaka ke orang tua mu 😁

[@f.s.firdaus8106]

Anjir 😂

[@flywingscamelurine4290]

When East Timor joint Indonesian, its GDP below 500usd, but its about the same with all Indonesian. Actually East Timor favoured by Indonesian, they had more subsidies compared another part of Indonesian!

[@ian7033-qj9wg]

Well thats not true. Current average East Timorese income is around $3000 per year. And GDP 4 bil. West Timor a fraction of that.

[@flywingscamelurine4290]

@@ian7033-qj9wg ? Indonesian now has about 3000usd too now!!!! What you are talking about?

[@ignatiusryd2031]

@@ian7033-qj9wg Try harder mate, the most cruelest fact today said that average income in TL is barely touch 115 USD per month and still stagnated to this date eventough the living cost in there has flying up almost three times that number.

[@hewho6301]

Where is portugal right now? They the hero for Timor Leste

[@ignatiusryd2031]

Sssh, portuguese would play blind about this since portugal themselves were amongst the modern day European Pariah

[@zspge403]

Even colonizer language portuguese become official language lol

[@Pe_De]

😂😂

[@bambamkitring6666]

Lol they cheat timor leste and now runaway 😂

[@0.381mm]

Indonésia built school and hospital, public facilities are and infrastructures. Now east tmor is considerably much poorer than its neighbour of the same island. There is a counttry that is just affraid of war against Indonésia. So they flame separatist and illusion of independence to better attack that region for its resources.

[@lambenyengir9673]

"Enjoy your FREEDOM and INDEPENDENCE " Being poorer is good.. Best regard from Indonesian

[@preddysaragih3034]

Ala ngak usah sombong lah .. orang Indonesia juga Masih banyak yg melarat coy

[@farrel2114]

@@preddysaragih3034 apalagi timor leste

[@preddysaragih3034]

@@farrel2114 ya kalo sama-sama negara melarat ya ngak usah banyak gaya lah. Malu-maluin

[@farrel2114]

@@preddysaragih3034 ga melarat kita ini, australia itu yg malu"in. Ga ngotak bisa"nya manfaatin negara kecil

[@preddysaragih3034]

@@farrel2114 negara miskin ngejek negara miskin.. itu yang malu-maluin. Kalau soal negara lain manfaatin negara lain ya itu lain cerita bos.

[@paschalx]

I already knew it since 2 decades ago. There were clear signs that AU sided with pro independence despite their neutrality as UN forces. So, I knew at the time that it would be Papua all over again.

[@ian7033-qj9wg]

What? Papua all over again? You do realise that Australia recognises Indonesias sovereignty over West Papua? So many dumb comments here.

[@giftsonnabayano1973]

@@ian7033-qj9wg yeah you mean just like how AU officially recognizes Indonesia sovereignty over TL but then swoop in for ez oil in TL?

[@ian7033-qj9wg]

@@giftsonnabayano1973 well actually AU rescued TL from the organised destruction and anarchy your childish government of the time engineered after the pro democracy vote. Go do your research before you claim nonsense. If the Indo govt hadnt done that AU would not have been there. And of course AU supported the TL vote, they were our allies in WW2 against the Japanese. You know AU actively supported Merdeka in Indo, right? Did we take your oil?

[@GregorianMG]

They want that gold.

[@iwanprasojo2034]

Thank Australia 😂😂

[@INDONESIABUBAR2030BYSPIZYDORI]

Bagus juga, karena bisa jadi beban kalau tetap jadi bagian Indonesia. Lagian prajurit NICA zaman Hindia Belanda banyak diambil dari daerah situ (ANDJING NICA / LONDO IRENG)

[@continuousself-improvement1879]

The more prosperous provinces of Indonesia are happy to subsidize the poorer ones so their development could increase and we could grow more equally, because we are one country. TLE no longer has that subsidy and have to sink or swim on their own with the limitations they have. They thought Australia is their friend, they forgot that AU as a nation was built on top of Aboriginal landgrab and genocide.

[@fatresyamora1298]

Where did you get the information that indonesia invaded east timor? They asked to join Indonesia back then. We never invaded east timor.

[@BebebnyaHuTao]

Look at West Timor, developed by Indonesian Goverment, now compared the West and East is like Earth and Sky

[@notawidow6560]

It's easier to be richer when the Indonesian gov killed 300,000 people when they invaded

[@marcoaustin8227]

Thanks Guus. This is new information to me. 👍

[@wisfina]

Once upon a time, Australia had a sneaky plan up its sleeve! Before lending a helping hand to East Timor's independence, they had a brilliant insight: why not turn the tables and nab those precious oil reserves from Indonesia? So, they cleverly supported the cause of an independent East Timor, making it a piece of cake to claim those oil riches!

[@zeto4905]

Congratulations for the video! As a Timorese I thank you for this perspective. Regarding this matter, the invasion and subsequent “integration” of Timor-Leste into the Indonesian Republic was only recognized by Australia and from 1978 negotiations were conducted between the two States in order to conclude a Treaty, regarding the delimitation of the maritime border, the “Timor Gap Treaty” and on December 11, 1989, signed the treaty establishing a joint zone for the exploitation of resources in the Timor Sea. The question is, how is Australia going to reward Timor-Leste for the exploration done all these years???

[@voopoo69]

Australia can steal as much as they want, just think of this as a reward for helping Timor Leste become independent from Indonesia. in this world nothing is free.

[@bmj5367]

So if i help u from getting bullied, can i steal from u as much as i want? Amazing

[@major8409]

@@voopoo69🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[@farosrohmangeloraramadan3897]

Ketika orang gak sekolah jadi penjahat perang lalu ditipu Aussie 🙄

[@mradvokat6703]

SDM SDM jelek banget, esmosian susah nangkap dan suka partee🎉

[@kf168]

feeling bad for our brother and sister from east timor, hopefully they get what they deserved.

[@zhu_shi]

the Indonesian president at that time allowed Timor Leste to become independent because many other countries interfered in various matters..and if the Indonesians continued to defend it then more East Timorese would be victims.. as a result the resources of an independent Timor Leste were taken by some of these countries. .well we just saw Timor Leste from the side shook our heads and left🥱😪😴

[@ian7033-qj9wg]

Allowed? Lol. The Australian army faced off the TNI in TimTim and forced them out. Then dealt with the anti freedom militias. Thats how they got independence because as we know the Indonesian government trucked in criminal militias before the referendum, armed and financed them. So the President didnt "allow" anything.

[@akmalbasyarahil2783]

@@ian7033-qj9wg thats what the apussylia told you?

[@juamu1132]

@@ian7033-qj9wg and now look at your majestic country begging for scraps.

[@tamsilpandurata7939]

Aku sedang menunggu komentar dari orang timor leste, aku penasaran apa yang ada di benak mereka tentang kakak kandungnya yang sangat baik si Australia itu wkwkwkwk😂😂😂

[@atoycarmo3458]

Kami tau dari dulu ausi dan kalian mencuri minyak kami dari thn 1974 kok kamu masih nunggu comment kami selamana ini kamu msh tidur yaa😂😂😂

[@the__darknight]

​@@atoycarmo3458 dan sekarang timles nyelundupin minyak dr Indonesia 😂

[@yosichadutawisnuandika5168]

@@atoycarmo3458 anda putus sekolah kah, hingga tidak mengetahui sejarah kemerdekaan negara Timor Leste anda?. Timor-Leste referendum dari Indonesia 1999, sedangkan greater sunrise kilang minyak Timor Leste mulai di operasional kan 2004 setelah merdeka, lalu sejak kapan Indonesia mencuri minyak negara anda Timor Leste sedangkan negara anda 80% pendapatan provinsi ketika masih bersama Indonesia memakai bantuan anggaran negara ?. Apakah anda tidak lulus sekolah dasar?. Tahukah anda, negara anda sebetulnya parasit di Indonesia, dan mayoritas rakyat Indonesia bersyukur Timor Leste lepas dari Indonesia. Jika benar anda putus sekolah, wajar sejarah dasar negara anda tidak memahami 😅. Jadi ini membuktikan tingkat pendidikan Timor Leste hanya 60% dari keseluruhan penduduk negara 😂.

[@widodoakrom3938]

​@@atoycarmo3458 makanya jgn mudah ketipu

[@widodoakrom3938]

​@@yosichadutawisnuandika5168 nah Ini bener

[@BSC_]

Timor Leste says that Australia is a brother, and its natural wealth is managed by Australia as its brother. In addition, Timor Leste said that they would become the new Singapore, even though in fact they were fooled by Australia with the Singapore gimmick🤣🤣🤣

[@netrubbish]

Singapore 🤣🤣🤣

[@pakarpintu4917]

@@netrubbish Sing A Poor

[@lightsalt8279]

Australia: "We stole other country's oils!" British: "Awww.. look at our kids..." Americans: "Well done bois!"

[@gilangfaturrozy351]

I don't get why can any nation believe Australian government after what it's been done to their native population. It's just mind blowing that some people believe them genuinely. These non aboriginal Australians (european settlers) literally killed the natives of the land that they live in now and exploit all their resources while in the meantime the native people live in subpar standard compared to them. Despite the fact that they apologized, the destruction is deeply rooted and I don't think it'll be solved in few decades. I do really wish our aboriginal and Torres strait islander brothers and sisters will do well in the future and their voices to be heard. Side note : no hate towards modern european descents Australians. But I don't think I will have any positive view of their government tho, ever.

[@ian7033-qj9wg]

Just a couple of points to add to your factless rant. There are more Aboriginal people in Australia than before colonisation. So maybe my ancestors couldnt shoot straight or something. Aboriginals who live in subpar standard do it by choice, they have not just the same access to resources as anyone but also legal rights in access to employment and education other Australians do not have.

[@ignatiusryd2031]

@@ian7033-qj9wg Ah really?? Then why Australia to this date always throw lot of nonsense reasons when everyone asking about when the entire european descendants in Australia willing to completely gave the continent back to the Aborigines?? Why the fact were saying that the Aborigines in Australia, their cultures, their languages, etc were now has dragged closer to total extinction?? Something is not right aye??

[@ian7033-qj9wg]

Why are you being racist?

[@agaXM]

@@ian7033-qj9wg we had enough of Australia

[@ian7033-qj9wg]

@@agaXMAnd yet people from your country all want to live here. Im personally quite happy for you all to have enough of Australia, dont come here, we dont want your eye rape of women, your arrogance or your casual littering. We dont like you. Win/win