How bad is NO HANDLING in Mario Kart 8 Deluxe?

is this the WORST combo in the game?
How to get Better at Mario Kart: • FULL Beginner Guide | ...
combo:
character: bowser / morton
vehicle: standard atv / badwagon / GLA
tires: ancient tires / monster tires / hot monster tires
glider: wario wing / plane glider / paraglider / gold glider
monster tires would have been more goofy, but they bounce a lot and are hard to use!
- lowest handling (turning) stat
- nearly fastest / max speed combo
- nearly lowest acceleration
- nearly max / highest weight stat
- nearly lowest mini turbo stat

[@Shortcat321]

I also played with maximum handling! kzbin.info/www/bejne/lXfMk5hsr5aBnqM

[@rhimetym]

R.I.P Waluigi Statium Streak the Ending to it

[@toxdazcubing]

Hey Shortcat, when are you making your advanced guide as well as the bullet exte tion guide?

[@MonkeyMod]

Nice!

[@Isaac_L..]

That green shell at the end was one of most clutch things I've ever seen.

[@kushalupadhyay9052]

FR!

[@-Logan_Word-7437]

Yeah lol

[@kane8165]

I've done it before and it feels so great.

[@highthorn258]

With the ink on his face too; maaann

[@thenightjackal]

had to subscribe for that

[@maruigi1123]

The fact that you’re able to win on these ludicrous combos always puts me in a state of awe

[@Shortcat321]

This one took some practice. When I first tried this combo, it definitely felt like the worst thing I had ever used LOL

[@The_MEMEphis]

Skill will always override having a meta build

[@Lol-zc1vd]

It depends on the lobby

[@ConW2]

@@Shortcat321 you could have used the monster tires to complete the standard atv set (also standard atv middle weight soon?)

[@AJ-nh9qm]

If ur skilled and play your cards(items) right, you can win with any combo

[@DaShikuXI]

You know what would be really useful? A side by side comparison of what the handling stat actually does. Taking the same turns with the same joystick position and seeing how the kart actually moves. I know handling makes a difference, but I've never really been able to point out how.

[@Shortcat321]

I might make this!

[@milliondollarmistake]

@@Shortcat321 Shorts for all the stats would be pretty useful

[@drintrovert4564]

some kind of tas tool could help with that and make it much more consistant

[@mibbles2371]

I really wish mario kart did a 'garage' where you could just test out vehicles and swap them really quickly so you can get the feel for them with out quitting each time you start the game

[@nando5340]

Shortcat: I know people don’t like to see me bagging every track Me: that’s literally my style to watch shortcat do lol

[@Shortcat321]

Glad we have some bagging enjoyers here 😇

[@yansharma5452]

The final snipe was crazy

[@PenguinsAreCool444]

Before I watch the video im guessing no handling is gonna be hard

[@mandyisgone]

🙀🙀🙀🙀🙀🙀

[@IdentifiantE.S]

You’re Einstein

[@PenguinsAreCool444]

Ikr i used all 372 brain cells in my brain to solve that one

[@dissolved3040]

My assumption as well

[@Lol-zc1vd]

If you think no handling is gonna be easy then you're dumb

[@vinndiggs100]

Not only did you hit a shot with a green shell just as the other guy was gonna win, you did it while blinded by the ink. That was awesome

[@MXK_BS]

Shortcat, just wanna say: You are an fantastic Mario Kart 8 KZbinr! Been here since the first video and EVERY SINGLE VIDEO IS AWESOME, Keep. It. Up.🔥

[@Shortcat321]

Thank you so much!! ❤

[@NewPolkCity]

Idea for a video - randomize and do wacky controls using the Switch settings button mapper

[@S1rD4niel]

That last Coconut Mall Finish had me smiling ear to ear, well played man!

[@dgls127]

THANK YOU!!! Everyone always talk about handling but NEVER elaborate, they just say "my handling is good/bad", so I never knew what handling was

[@Shortcat321]

Yeah they could have just named it turning. That would be more clear

[@EdwardPHandsBasedManchild]

The fact that you managed to place well a good chunk of the time is crazy. It really goes to show how balanced the game is. Regardless of what setup you have, you can still win.

[@Mernom]

More like, items in general are OP. The front runners not getting any good items puts them in a massive disadvantage.

[@Lauren747]

After watching the first race, shortcat is just good at all combos. Edit: after watching the last race, this is confirmed

[@Shortcat321]

Except inward drift...

[@weaponizedemoticon1131]

​@@Shortcat321You gotta do like you did with your worst track and just make a video practicing your lines with inward drift. I'd watch that.

[@banditgarfw2504]

Can't wait for the lowest handling Inward Drift video

[@LapisD]

That last game was the pure essence of Mario Kart: Your mushrooms being stolen by a boo, then a blue shell goes for the 1st place, a blooper makes so you can see almost nothing, when you finally pass the 1st place a car in the road spins and hit both of you, when you are almost losing you hit a perfect green shell snipe and get 1st place. Pure art.

[@pianoman0459]

That ending was INSANE!!! Props for all the great content so far Shortcat, love your vids :D

[@Shortcat321]

Thank you!!

[@maikamcnairy9545]

These videos are so good. The editing is on point, the commentary is amazing, I really can’t express it enough. Great vids man always fun to watch

[@Shortcat321]

Thank you so much!! That means a lot :)

[@baguette2446]

4:28 The Hank Hill mii must have a good "green shell evasion" stat

[@user-ox6st9jx3x]

Bruh that green shell at the end for the win was your main character moment. Nice job!

[@ezzydonny]

feel like shortcats would be mad hard with no handling

[@ezzydonny]

nvm bruh two races in and shortcuts are fine

[@Shortcat321]

Some precise shortcuts are tougher, including the coconut mall shortcut (which is usually really easy)

[@abdullahbashir5297]

Why would he be hard that’s kinda weird

[@Shortcat321]

Just don't pick waluigi stadium 👀👀

[@popiejoepie]

@@Shortcat321 i have a feeling that you would be really good at solving 3d puzzles

[@BharmaArc]

Fantastic finish to that last race! love your content :)

[@Shortcat321]

Thank you!!

[@tekuron_]

The vibe is immaculate as always. Been here since the first video and still think you're one of my favorites

[@vegetables1593]

11:03 "The speed stat is the second best stat in the game" Me, a Lemmy main: 👁👄👁

[@Jonas-dl8vr]

Bowser is probably my favorite character in this game if he wouldn't be that bad. It's kinda sad that he is in every "worst" combo I see 😭 (Note: I love ur videos keep it up!)

[@Shortcat321]

Bowser is awesome and I really like his voice in this game. They didn't give him a niche though. Dry Bowser has the same speed but more handling, and Bowser has more weight but that doesn't really matter. I wish he was just in a higher speed class

[@VioletteBaguette]

Handling is the most underrated stat in the whole game. Just try to play a match with no handling and try to win… oh wait shortcat beat me to it…

[@Shortcat321]

It's *difficult* to play with low handling, but it's not actually that bad objectively. Once I got used to it, I kind of stopped thinking about it. My acceleration became the bigger problem

[@thebobtheangel]

Hey Shortcat, You are my biggest inspiration for my content and you have given me the courage to start uploading Mario Kart and I enjoy it like nothing else! Thanks for being great and keep being you!

[@Shortcat321]

Thank you and good luck!!

[@tokothegecko]

As someone trying to find good ways to use Morton, this video definitely encouraged me to start learning how to do bagging properly :P It looks easy seeing it, but I always mess it up somehow lol

[@Shortcat321]

It takes a lot of track knowledge to do it! You can even just race normally until you get hit, then stop racing and bag. If you never get hit, that works too! For bagging, your top priority is to get to 10 coins. Get rid of triple mushrooms/star if another item is coming up, and get rid of golden mushrooms if there's no good spot for it on the track. (A good spot is a place with lots of shortcuts, like where I used it on sunset wilds) You want to make your push for the front at a different time depending on the track. On coconut mall, there is no way to cheese it so I just spent the whole time trying to come back. On sunset wilds, it's the first half of lap 3 since there are 4+ shortcuts. On kalimari desert, it was right after the final train tracks

[@tokothegecko]

​@@Shortcat321thanks a lot for the tips! I'll definitely try all of these out :D

[@sampleyt9457]

I dont even play MK, but this whole video was entertaining from start to finish, nice job man, keep it up

[@futuramarox789]

Hey Shortcat, your videos are so informative and engaging! I wonder if you could do a big video sometime where you talk about the best strategies and formulas for each circuit in the game? Maybe after the final wave has come out? Like, it would be very intriguing to learn what makes certain maps better for item/coin bagging, if there are any maps that are better for certain things than others? Also, I recently learned (thanks to you) that I have been using an inside drift combo for my entire life! Ever Since Mario Kart Wii, I've just found that inside drift bikes 'felt right' without even knowing what they were! I wonder if you could do a video saying all the differences in playstyles each drift type should take? For instance, I've been trying Vector Gliding (also, thanks to you) recently without much luck, and it makes me wonder if it's different to accomplish on inside drift? ALSO - it would be super interesting to see a controller map if you can possibly incorporate one in future? I hear your triggers going mad when you're allingment hopping and stuff, it would be mad to see the actual inputs for this real-time! Anyway, thanks for everything dude, keep uploading these bangers pls ^^

[@Shortcat321]

Thanks, I appreciate that! I already have been making tricks/shortcut videos for each track (yt shorts) so it will mainly be there. I could definitely make a compilation of tips, but 96 tracks is a lot LOL. The general idea though is bagging is viable when there are lots of shortcuts, or a chaotic section that you want to be invincible for. So other than learning shortcuts and general item play, there isn't too much to talk about. Inside drift represent!! That's awesome. Idk how it works with glider vectoring, and I'll probably be pretty rudimentary with inside drift for the foreseeable future so I won't know much about it. One thing about inside drift is that it cannot do alignment hops nor super bounce, so on some tracks you will be at a bigger disadvantage. The advantage is that when you're drifting, the rear view camera is better, and you can backspam items in a better line to hit other players. For the input viewer, I'd love to share the info but unfortunately I think it would be distracting to most viewers. Mario kart inputs are not that complicated though. The only times I'm not hitting an obvious direction on the stick are during soft drifting (aim for just under 45 degrees upwards), when making very slight adjustments (tilt the stick slightly), and motion glider and glider vectoring (will make a video on that soon)

[@Mage_Nichlas_]

I don't like bagging. However, I can't get mad at that last race in the slightest. Overall immense skill on display this video.

[@Shortcat321]

Haha I appreciate it!

[@jdiaz4877]

That snipe at the end was beautiful!

[@K8aclysm]

Holy shit that green shell snipe on the last race was fucking insane.

[@treeecks]

YESSS just in time to eat my lunch watching my fav mk8 ytuber

[@ShotoDemo_]

The pure excitement in his voice at the end. I love it so much 😊

[@winterwatson6811]

youtube has been suggesting me other mariokart videos but all i really want is more shortcat :D

[@Shortcat321]

Hopefully the KZbin algorithm listens and only promotes shortcat from now on!

[@Gigante_Royale]

Bro I started playing MK7D recently, and I also started watching some of your videos that can help me improve. Not only I was right about helping me but also making me laugh of how you manage to race against others and how you play it. Such a legend. If I ever get in a lobby with you too, I won't be angry even if I lose against you, in fact, it will be a real honor🗿🤝🏻🗿

[@Shortcat321]

Thank you!! I'm so happy you're learning :)

[@karasudarkangel]

The way you play is great! The knowledge you know about this game is amazing! "Bagging" or not "Bagging," people can hate it or love but They shouldn't force someone to play their way. Keep up the great work!

[@sammiecakie8973]

Thanks so much for the upload, I’ve been violently ill so I haven’t been able to do much. Your content is the best 🧡 (orange heart for orange shortcat) :)

[@Shortcat321]

Get better soon! And thank you so much!

[@MattAttackz]

Shortcat when things go wrong, "It's time to bag!"

[@ValLuced]

Commentary and editing was amazing! This was also very funny, looking forward to more great content!!

[@Shortcat321]

Thank you!! :)

[@mmjahink]

That whole sequence at 24:15 was so wild! Greatest ending to Coconut Mall I've ever seen

[@Felipera_]

I have been doing races on random builds and it is a lot of fun, and very goofy most of the time, you should try using one of the many online randomizers! The hardest part is getting a random build and picking it before every race before the time runs out

[@Shortcat321]

I had so many issues getting to my combo in time for my cutest combos video. I'm gonna try random soon!

[@zwillscoopchannel9689]

@@Shortcat321what if you random about 20 combos then write them down? Since then you would have mor time to change the set up

[@Shortcat321]

Yes that would help. I had the combos written down for both videos I did that had me switching all the parts. But sometimes the game barely gives you any time in between races, so i end up wasting 5 minutes on a race with some weird combo that won't make it into the final video lol

[@Felipera_]

@@Shortcat321 I found that if after a race you go straight to picking a character without choosing a stage it gives you a lot more time, since it will wait for a bit for you to pick a stage as well. Still, you probably lose out on your chance to vote to a somewhat more favorable track to whatever build you got.

[@visillac]

You're slowly but surely becoming one of my favorite yt channels

[@Paratroopa15433]

An official Nintendo switch Mario kart ad played when I was watching this video

[@Sagradon]

Another great day when shortcat uploads!

[@TiesSepGames]

I don’t know if you will read this, but I just wanna let you know how much I enjoy and appreciate your videos. I don’t play Mario kart myself, and stumbled upon your channel a while ago. I absolutely love your commentary and gameplay, and everytime I get a notification that you’ve uploaded it makes me happy. I genuinely wanna thank you, keep on putting out great content! Kind regards, - Ties

[@duncanmoors5796]

Favourite Mario kart youtuber keep it up, and I love watching you bag lol

[@Wolfiyeethegranddukecerberus17]

You deserve a subscribe for that green shell.

[@chefcc90]

"Why do people throw back at the end?" That was your own green shell!!! You bagged yourself!

[@patlmalon]

This was great! Maybe this should be a series. Karts with best and worst stats. I'd be interested in worst acceleration!

[@sonicdragon75]

I used to swear by no handling Bowser back when I played MK8. Always remember to corner correctly, even when the build is not suited for it. As a wise racer has once said, "When turning, go outside, inside, outside." Also, great content. Love how in-depth you are explaining the game's mechanics.

[@Trvpluhh]

I feel like shortcat is just a better player at every combo. He played with the Worst to best combos and he still manages to get 1st place.😭😂

[@WiredoGamingAndCubing]

Can you do the waiting 30 second challenge with the WORST combo in the game to se if you can win? I think it’d be a very entertaining video. Also, keep up the great work Shortcat!

[@dudamesh9541]

That last Green Shell is amazing!

[@jeanmr.random8861]

It would be fun to see a video of you racing with random gliders, karts and wheels I think seeing the weird combinations in race could be interesting

[@gamingbako5549]

I played the whole game 3 star on all cups (before booster course was a thing) on a garbage setup like that. Mortan badwagon, slick tires, and normal glider. Having highest top speed and lowest turning. I became a master at the game because of this and can use any setup. You can make every turn in the game, including 200cc on worst handling. You just need some brake turning and creativity. I play more conventional setups now, but it's funni seeing a video like this pop up.

[@fadedcrossxd5081]

WOOOOOO, Short cat upload today is a good day

[@theurbanranger9193]

That green shell snipe while Bloopered was clutch af.

[@vaendryl]

"forced to bag" is such a wonderful copium term for "I fucked up".

[@Spicy21]

been waiting for this one !

[@onebear6504]

I didn't expect a video in the middle of the week! Really appreciate it! On another note, idk much whether bagging is that hated by fans. But, imo I don't mind it at all and I think it could add to the variety lol. In a way, if you front run, it opens chances to *get Mario Kart'd* , and if you bag, it opens chances to *do Mario Kart* , and I can definitely enjoy both haha. Additionally, there is quite lots of less seen tracks nowadays huh, real treat for the eyes. Also, I hope you don't get Waluigi Stadium when doing a really difficult combo like this lol.

[@Shortcat321]

Glad to know people like the bagging! I'll try to mix it in sometimes. Also yeah, with 88 tracks so far, some tracks almost never show up online

[@phike3390]

the snipe at the end was career destroiyng OMG.

[@Multitasker3]

Fr though what a win

[@Kosmo_Z]

that green shell in the coconut mall race was INSANE!

[@JuliansMarbleZone]

Thanks for teaching me how to solve a 2x2,3x3 cube

[@ZDMD]

For a future video, you should try and win using randomised combos! There’s a great place that randomises the combo for you (can’t send links here though)

[@rainbowhaven]

what's it called? no need to send a link

[@papa-gian__]

Shortcat you should do the challenge where you have to get every placing online in 12 tries but they don’t have to be in order

[@dudamesh9541]

I think Shortcat is just too good to be handicapped with these weird combos

[@Shortcat321]

I'll be honest, I used this combo for a while before recording just to get used to it. I was 100% getting worse results than any combo I've ever played before. Once I got used to playing safe and bagging more, my results became really good!

[@qiwiconsumer]

that green at the line… my jaw literally dropped LOL

[@7Kazi7]

Good to see ur channel has blown up brother

[@Shortcat321]

Thank you!

[@7Kazi7]

@@Shortcat321 any time

[@Shiro-ol7tx]

THAT SNIPE AT THE END THOUGH

[@kiwi20239]

I am 99% convinced this is Jperm

[@Elli0tK1ng]

It is it’s gotta be

[@marrodc]

That snipe at the end was beautiful

[@Penguinfred1]

Hey dude you are the entire reason I have gotten back into mario kart 8 deluxe online racing and time trials it would be amazing to play with you some day p.s the new worst combo does suck ALOT definitely better than the old worst combo lemmy bad wagon

[@Penguinfred1]

Yo my man shortcat hearted the comment you’re awesome

[@Shortcat321]

You're awesome for playing Mario kart again!

[@Penguinfred1]

Its fun to play. Sometimes I play with my dad at night most of the time I win but sometimes I choose a bad combo when I play with him

[@Penguinfred1]

Your a great player at mario kart and the first ever youtuber that has responded to one of my comments I love how you interact with your community so much even if you’re not making a video

[@Penguinfred1]

I made a video on this interaction you are a great youtuber

[@PixelShiftss]

Wow that last race was straight insane

[@choochman]

11:35 bro smuggled 1st place items to 12th

[@Rek2en]

I wish I could’ve seen the bullet bill this video, but overall great video. Keep it up!

[@Shortcat321]

Thank you! I guess I got really unlucky, I didn't even realize I never got the bullet

[@samuelmay7716]

Wooooo another shortcats video

[@kavaplant]

audibly gasped at the green shell LMAOOO i would be pisseedd if that happened to me wow

[@Franky_D._Baguette]

- Bro does a challenge where he can't properly turn - Proceeds to gives up the challenge 40 seconds into the video

[@THE1FIREHAWK]

THAT GREENSHELL WHILE BLINDED WAS LEGENDARY

[@nelesoschinski163]

This last round was fire 🔥🔥🔥😎😎😎

[@ethanchinn6024]

@Shortcat you said you know that ppl don’t like watching bagging. I personally enjoy the bagging videos the most as for me it is the most exciting

[@Shortcat321]

Thank you!! I'm glad you enjoy it. I'll definitely have a mix of it

[@jerodak6462]

To be fair, Bowser being built to work best this sort of playstyle makes a lot of sense, it suits him. I doubt it was the intention, but it just works.

[@psychosis2886]

4:18 💀🤣🤣 I love you Shortcat

[@Penguinfred1]

It would be really funny if right after this you use the best handling stat just to compare the two

[@0KXNE]

that snipe at the end was so HYPE

[@heeheekiwi9535]

If that last match every happened to me, I'd pack my Switch back up into the box and ship it back to Walmart!💀😭

[@notlogan02]

Started playing mario Kart again bc of you!!

[@Shortcat321]

That's great to hear!! 😊

[@m_chaneck4124]

I love your videos ! keep doing some dumb/genius challenge like that or do everything else on mario kart I will keep watch it. 🙌

[@blackdaniels4876]

That clutch green shell at the end.

[@nicolaslappano7878]

that coconut mall race was insane

[@maxgonzalez3762]

Man’s in the end probably punching the air rn after he got green shelled

[@jetsetter52182]

That end was insane 🤯

[@ofanichan]

Its so funny to me seeingsomeone try so hard on Mario Kart. This video is a blessing~

[@Pau_h]

That finale was amazing 😱

[@lukero818]

the ending was so satisfying i got so happy

[@josefinepetersen1351]

3:27 King booo doesn't wanna risk dying again

[@Muhahahahaz]

24:24 omg, that snipe! Gg

[@Nokyyyyy]

Take that W, you deserve it

[@nando5340]

The last race wow what a finish !!

[@euanberesford9974]

That win at the end. G FREAKING G!!!!!