How Bad is the AI in Super Smash Bros. 64?

[@thebowz6525]

CPU: Ight, I'll just recover Me: *edgeguards* CPU: Guess I'll die then

[@johnquach8821]

This is actually common with AIs up till Brawl; they do not defend themselves well vs. Edge guarders

[@corvax8644]

Sakurai was probably like “well they already got the edgegaurd might as well give it to them”

[@flyforce16]

@@corvax8644 Sakurai hates the concept of edgeguarding, hence why he made everyone's recoveries so OP in future games and added ledge-trumping. Can't let anyone have any fun competitively!

[@thebowz6525]

@Jacob Underwood Why do I see YOU everywhere? You just as guilty, my guy

[@wellplayod1957]

@@flyforce16 edgegaurding actually is a cool idea and I wish they implemented it purposefully

[@aa69420]

It's not the AI, it's Kirby's up tilt they're scared of.

[@mazder3594]

Brawl snake: Who are you? 64 Kirby: I'm you, but stronger

[@electricipea.101]

@@mazder3594 Oh yes, definitely. Kirby's Up-tilt in Smash 64 has a bigger hitbox than Kirby's actual foot. Also free 60% or something when your opponent is at 0%

[@senordraco418]

That shit its so broken ._.

[@rigistroni]

@@electricipea.101 still no melee Jigglypuff back air. The hitbox of that move is THREE TIMES the size of Jigglypuff. As in the whole chareceter, not just her foot

[@electricipea.101]

@@rigistroni oh right that too.

[@highlightoutliner4663]

Missed opportunity to play as luigi so he can win by doing absolutely nothing

[@davidbarrientos2062]

Yes Is true

[@8bitsgameplay498]

That's not fun

[@wellplayod1957]

@@8bitsgameplay498 well he's doing the same thing here. And everyone knows that luigi is the master of doing nothing

[@mattwno8719]

@@8bitsgameplay498 8bits gameplay:NO!!!!, YOU JUST CAN'T MAKE THAT JOKE AND GET SO MANY LIKES, IT'S UNFUNNY!!!!! Bandana 69:Haha luigi king of nothing do nothing *luigi does absolutely nothing*

[@123benyb]

@@mattwno8719 let's analyze these layers A KZbin comment version of a meme that is a parody rage comment which were last popular in 2012

[@thegamerj.e.t]

I forgot how sassy Kirby sounds when he says "hai".

[@drrobotnikkfadroleplay1681]

I impregnated his voice actor and made her go through the pain of labor

[@breadbug6101]

Dr Robotnik Kfad Roleplay cursed

[@dark09875]

Sure

[@dark09875]

He scares me here

[@Alex26108]

Dr Robotnik Kfad Roleplay tf ?

[@somegraperock9237]

donkey kong: easy target im just gonna walk over there an- *CHARMANDER*

[@lorelo.]

Donkey Kong really just wanted to enter that building

[@iainhardy3362]

he lives there bro

[@Zathanex]

These are pretty cool bananas

[@Monkeman69737]

Zathanex Seven *CHARMANDER!!!*

[@newhandlesaredumb]

this made me laugh

[@nonomen6665]

"CPUs sometimes spam their shield" Ah, so they're actually just Smash 4 players.

[@falconimation1]

It is said they spam their shields not that they spam dodgerolls

[@xyoojmonsta8150]

They trying to parry

[@falconimation1]

@@xyoojmonsta8150 that would be smash ultimate lmao

[@groundbeef2]

I'm more concerned that Fox can shield MID-JAB

[@xyoojmonsta8150]

Falconimation Ik lol

[@googa9689]

2:24 charmander: YOU PICKED THE WRONG WALL FOOL!

[@GMKGoji01]

Also Charmander: GUMMY BEAR!

[@supersmashbrosmelee2105]

Lol

[@diicely]

"you knocked on the wrong door bitch"

[@supersmashbrosmelee2105]

SlushCloudYT 👍

[@matthewjones6786]

* “CHARMANDER!” * -Charmander

[@kanesekai650]

1:51 He’s not spamming attacks, he just really wants a jump read

[@dagui2973]

Lost footage of those super hyper epic montages

[@DrizzyGames]

Haha lol

[@KnakuanaRka]

Yeah, that’s what I was thinking; it’s hoping you jump towards them and get hit before you can attack them.

[@Summerhue_Donyx]

Lmao

[@IsaiahTSE]

The CPU when there’s a wall in front of them: *WHAT IN GODS NAME IS THIS CRAP BLOCKING MY PATH*

[@pathogenofdecay]

"Oh an Electrode okay aaaaaa"

[@MaryMartinez-qg5ye]

@Jorji Costava Also like birds

[@SrFreakus]

The lower level CPUs are also programmed to Taunt sometimes

[@runterranger7398]

I think its like that in some other games too, lv 9 cpu just dont taunt for some reason

[@Rostof_TheGreat]

@@runterranger7398 Lv 9 CPUs probably think they're too cool to taunt

[@RlyOverBored]

They taunt after landing a smash attack/aerial attack way before the actual kill percent of that attack. Its hilarious.

[@AriaKyuKyu]

Cant wait for Smash 4, the cpu always spam grabs, perfect shield and dodges

[@L00D__]

It also almost feels like they read inputs as well

[@AriaKyuKyu]

@@L00D__ yup. I guess Everyone on level 9 are Ultra Instint Goku

[@jazi150]

The same goes for Ultimate, in level 5 they are starting to do all the moves really fast, in level 7 they are constant, but in level 9 is absolute hell

[@Rustycube88]

@@AriaKyuKyu you meant Smash 3Ds?

[@AriaKyuKyu]

@@Rustycube88 in my case, it happened too frequent on the WiiU version. Once I tried to grab Mewtwo, he dodge 8 times in a row and then grabbed me 5 times

[@opadrip]

Kirby: *Wins by doing nothing.* Luigi: Finally, a worthy opponent! Our battle will be legendary!

[@GatesOfAvalon1]

*intense rock plays as both stand perfectly still*

[@superstarman9001]

The greatest fight since Metapod vs. Metapod.

[@plant_kirb3875]

Y E S

[@johnevan8282]

The greatest fight since ash caught caterpie without attacking it

[@ayagonzalez3384]

Lol

[@xSilentZeroXx]

5:17 He's not spamming shield, he's trying to play Melee

[@saberspriteanimator6385]

He hasn't realized he's not in that game yet

[@projeto_zetta8687]

"Some CPUs can't get out of the right part of sector Z" I am a CPU

[@NoMic_YouTube]

@@seijin_aflx same

[@MilesAway]

@@seijin_aflx I dont think that humorous is the right word.

[@projeto_zetta8687]

@@seijin_aflx yes, it's exactly what happened with me. Link was hard for me too. But, i never been good in this game. Took months till i discovered that characters have a down smash

[@seijin_aflx]

@@MilesAway does abysmal work?

[@seijin_aflx]

@bruh moment #69,420 yes thats a word

[@elesfinter9753]

0:43 Little Mac be like:

[@Atomicwaffle50]

Made me laugh way harder than it should've

[@daawesomm2155]

The real question is why he has less stocks then the cpu sometimes

[@NintenUnity]

I obviously self-destructed to give the CPUs a chance.

[@sonikamidnight7952]

@Nintendo Unity To win CPUs, *be the CPU.*

[@gabealex1122]

Wow that English

[@shinespark8409]

I read this in the iddubs gay European voice

[@nostalgiaguy3902]

@@NintenUnity lol I kinda found nintendo 64 super smash bros. on my android and it doesn't have faces can u help me

[@JourneyTo20XX]

Aren't we gonna talk about how that CPU dodged all the lasers perfectly at 4:13

[@mattgassenheimer]

64, Melee, Brawl AI: durrrrrrr PM, Smash 4, Ultimate AI: *literally the most precise and annoying things ever*

[@doosin8696]

Ultimate especially

[@hsb_snake8151]

Doosin Everyone gangster until Ultimate AI Mario KOs you with the ladder combo

[@supertyty0449]

Smash 4 reads your controller inputs

[@doosin8696]

@@hsb_snake8151 Everyone's gangster until lvl 9 Isabelle exists

[@sharkman-ww3hy]

Pretty much any fighting game has CPUs that read your inputs, but 4 and Ultimate do it excessively on the higher AI levels

[@toptenrodents]

Me: **can’t land a single hit on human beings** CPU: **exists** Me: Finally! A worthy opponent!

[@khoryu3682]

🐝 no need to be rude bro. i found it funny 😂

[@dylanbullock9364]

5:20 He's just practicing for Melee.

[@thefunwashere6221]

Who remembers when Kirby was S teir in Smash 64

[@sersmiles1635]

still is

[@destroyahdestroyah9584]

I don't remember that. I have no memory of that. I am sorry

[@Dawnleaf]

And then he was destined to be terrible for the rest of the franchise

[@thefunwashere6221]

@@Dawnleaf I main Kirbs, he is good but really hard to use because of the nerfs

[@chesslo2158]

Kirby is solid and underrated in Ultimate because he does well against quite a few top tiers in ultimate (something low and even high tiers don’t have the luxury getting)

[@ShinyChiaki]

1:33 Pikachu after the third time "hmm, this doesn't seem to be working....maybe I should do it again"

[@cjlite0210]

2:23 DK: Hey look a wall! Charmander: I'm about to end this man's whole career!

[@plumebrisee6206]

*Does 51%*

[@jaredhoeft2832]

GUMMY BEAR

[@FYourOpinions]

Kirby in the background: What career?

[@4xakira817]

Ultimate lvl 9 CPUS be like: *ULTRA INSTINCT, GESR FORTH, FULL COWL, BLACK MODE, BIJUU MODE CPUS*

[@electricenergy116]

Orenji *REQUIEM OVER HEAVEN*

[@donathan2933]

Orenji so true

[@Toxin_Glitch]

『King Crimson』

[@justinthibodeaux8601]

Until snake just kills himself three times in a row and pulls zero grenades

[@jimmyjohns7129]

The hero no one wanted, but everyone needed

[@GodlyNib]

I'm surprised you didn't cover Link pulling out bombs just to throw them down, or how most characters tend to disregard the twisters on Hyrule Castle and walk right into them.

[@miss-tessbess]

Gotta love how even the ships in the background of Sector Z were even getting tired of Link's failed attempts to get back to Kirby. It makes it almost looks like the shooting was meant to help him get over.

[@Liggliluff]

(4:25) That is the "only using the recovery once" rule they're following. The programmer might have intentionally made them only use it once, because you can only use it once ... forgetting you can gain it back.

[@itsme8049]

1:50 He doesn't spam those attacks for nothing, he tries to create the tornado to blow Kirby away.

[@shadowbat2095]

3:28 I used to trap Link over in Sector Z all the time as a kid. Thought I was so clever, outsmarting the CPU. XD

[@mikeasllani6972]

CPU When being edgeguarded once: My time has come

[@mystcat3]

5:26 Me sending her my love messages. Her "OK"

[@bonbon5000]

1:14 Kirby wins by doing absolutely nothing. Luigi: *Intense sweating*

[@xxDanRiesxx]

AI was bad in 1999? NO WAY! The game was amazing when it was released folks, and dawned the stock 99 4 player sleepovers.

[@donkeykogfunkyfresh]

3:19 Wow, Rest kills from that far away in this game?

[@DrizzyGames]

I think jiggly is S tier lol

[@villarinojayrooquec.2440]

Just in the middle tier mate

[@DrizzyGames]

@@villarinojayrooquec.2440 Whoosh

[@DrizzyGames]

@Omar Hamadeh Wow really got me in checkmate there with that "Don't @ me" there. It's a whoooosh because I said "I think jiggly is S tier" and they said "Just in middle tier". It's not even a thing to get mad over it's just supposed to be an "Oh whoops sorry didn't get it at first" kinda thing you know.

[@DrizzyGames]

@Omar Hamadeh Why you even replying to this on a year old comment dude, like I actually don't understand your logic

[@byronsmothers8064]

Alternate title: "player picks on computer trying it's best for 6 minutes straight"

[@gilbertrangel1235]

Charmander sounds so mad when donkey kong rn in

[@mike-ns6sw]

Watching this reminded me of how much i love 64's voice lines Kirby's taunt And Ness ko Those 2 are some of my favorites Pikachu is also up there

[@Nighxtz]

4:52 XD Ness just slams himself into a wall GUESS I'LL DIE

[@wheatiebun]

4:00 i doubt link's recovery would get him up there anyway

[@chajas5529]

I don’t think so. It sucks, so why would it matter?

[@cameronschiralli3569]

3:01 Oh no, Pikachu get out of the way oh god he has airpods in he can't hear us

[@zainmushtaq4347]

You forgot to include that CPU's completely forget about you in the middle of a fight once an item appears, and are like 'cya!' while slowly walking towards it....

[@j_c_93]

I remember all of this AI weirdness from when I was a kid.

[@Swag-xk6vs]

Sometimes you wonder why people think AI will take over

[@cylnder]

Smash Ultimate has Level 9 CPU's that act somewhat like a Pro Player

[@H-kun-bc6ox]

I mean is was way back before ai was good

[@sasaki999pro]

2:55 Pikachu: AGHHH I tried to sneak through the door man! Can't make it, can't make it, the shit's stuck... _Outta my way son!' DOOR STUCK! _*_DOOR STUCK!_* PLEASE!! **Electrode appears** I BEG YOU!!

[@ugyuu]

Finally, a video on the AI for Super Smash Bros. 64! I've always noticed that link starts off doing literally nothing, while Fox is impossibly hard playing Classic mode casually. Guess I wasn't wrong!

[@SonicZuki]

Wow the AI was really something back then & I'm just witnessing after watching this video lol

[@Piffle57]

This is sad to watch

[@aoshi9254]

Ikr

[@snaxa163]

It really shows how much the ai has improved since 64 lol

[@muff1nb0y46]

4:00 CPU'S : *Can't escape* Me an intellectual: *Uses UP B*

[@electricipea.101]

ikr

[@Officially_Unofficial-1]

Imagine not using up b *This post was made by player gang*

[@mrMonkTOC]

1:12 this is my technique in 1P Mode to get a speedrunning bonus. Someone else?

[@sunsfssb7699]

Yes, I always got the pacifist bonus against Pikachu there!

[@runterranger7398]

same but i used a different less effective strat

[@SeventhDeven]

Phew! AI has come a long way. Edgeguarding a level-9 CPU makes it look like level 1. Of coarse when Smash 64 was new, no one really knew what edge guarding was. So, it only makes sense. Great video! Now I'm curious to see the evolution of AI in the Smash series.

[@Angry5704]

DK: Is this a wall? I'm getting old, I need my glasses, so I don't know if this is a wall. Charmander: IT'S A DOOR YOU IDIOT!

[@thatterrariaguidenpc8054]

Kirby: Im gonna kill you! Fox: NOT IF I DO IT MYSELF FIRST!

[@pathogenofdecay]

Fox: * Spams shield * Also Fox: Oh good the tree finally blew us to the edge of the stage. *Hyakuretsukyaku!*

[@eeshverma3549]

4:11 this a very good band.

[@alheimianservant1499]

4:01 Link's hiccup

[@P8NPrivTV]

Great vid! Thank you for this

[@jkahl5596]

That fox cpu was just confusing his shield input for his shine

[@cook_kawasaki]

This video shows how cute Kirby is.

[@justputsomenamehere8641]

Hal: programs the ability to recover after getting hit Hal:did the past really happen

[@maskeddededepression1400]

I know how this feels kinda, in super smash flash 2, when I play against lvl 9 CPU’s in a free for all in a big stage, they tend to just jump and double jump and repeat until someone gets near them

[@SrFreakus]

Well the thing is that's a flash game so there isn't much to work with

[@Rustycube88]

@@SrFreakus yeah but i mean they re saying they paid so much attention it. And i remember the older versions having better CPU systems.i mean they did all those hard desgins , colorfull stages and musics but they couldnt do what they could do easily in the past? [I am talking about 4 years ago's smash flash 2]

[@TheDoomMaster]

0:41 So they're like me when I play any Smash game?

[@silvercomics3517]

Kirby: (stands on one side of a platform) Pikachu: Aight, imma head out.

[@flariz4824]

2:20 *The timing is god-tier*

[@bruhboss3141]

I have witnessed all of these occur on my own and can tell you 2 things: I wasn't trying to get these to happen, but seeing you exploit them to no end was funny The pikachu SD happens more often and in way more scenarios than you think, like fox upb but with tight spaces only Also, it says melee in the BROWSE GAME tag

[@messenz]

There is one more. Cpu tends to roll behind you when they are close in front of you. If you turn around afterwards they will roll in the opposite direction to appear behind you again. You can make them roll forever if you repeat this.

[@TheNadroj10]

Yeah they spam roll alot

[@NetBattler]

Fr 😂

[@itsaxel8088]

2:22 Donkey Kong: I'm going to do what's called a pro gamer move

[@_tokii__]

DK fighting his inner demons 1:49

[@donovanmahan2901]

To be fair, getting out of the right side of sector Z pushes Link's recovery to the limit

[@jamiegioca9448]

0:50 Why are we still here? Just to suffer? Every night... I can feel my leg... and my arm... even my fingers... the body I've lost... the comrades I've lost... won't stop hurting... It's like they're all still here... You feel it too, don't you? I'm gonna make them give back our past.

[@Jouzujanai]

You missed one. Load three level 9 Links. Go to Hyrule Castle and crouch against the small wall on the left side of the stage. The Links will have a tendency of walking up to that edge right above you and then using their Up B, flying over you and off the stage.

[@littlemacisunderrated412]

Some idiot: there’s no way (*insert perceived to be bad character*) is bad, I can beat a level 9 cpu with it! The level nine cpu:

[@limabean4035]

2:03 it happens in ssbu too.

[@limabean4035]

4:59 too

[@AeroLeaf4]

Moves Ultimate AI Spam: Ness PK Fire Most Up Smashes when trying to land (most experienced with Captain Falcon) Dr. Mario’s Tornado Samus Grabs Mario’s Down Aerial Any of Robin’s Aerials Add to the list

[@maniacthehedgehogpokes6435]

CPUs: Kirby ignores that gravity still works on slopes. Can't use recoveries very well and they give up on hit. Tries to do perfect shields. Spamming attacks will work even if they hit air. Walls do not exist often. An up B isn't necessary to get higher. Fox and ness: The same angle works for every angle. Apparently,foxes can't see lower blast lines. Cp.f:If the up B succeed,it won't necessary another one. The center must have an invisible platform.

[@SuperMarkerComicBro]

"CPUs sometimes spam their shield." As someone who has played every _Smash Bros._ game, I'm fairly certain that attribute is in every game in the series.

[@Daidek]

I’d imagine it’s far more prevalent in a game like Melee

[@prypiat171]

I honestly surprised, because after 5 years of playing Smash 64 I didn’t witnessed almost any of these flaws, except Saffron SD and the recovery denial. I guess we learn something new everyday.

[@miguelgarcia8455]

This video made all my feelings of accomplishment of when I was little destroying the CPU dissappear xD

[@how2animate735]

HOW TO BECOME A SMASH 64 PROFESSIONAL IN JUST 1 MINUTE (VERY REAL): 1:04

[@moregamez3fresh176]

Donkey Kong: don’t see why running into the walls a problem- CHARMANDER

[@umbraluna8387]

4:16 Now THIS is the content I subscribed for ☆

[@John_Smith_]

Technically, Ness is not using his up B at the same angle, but at a given angle or that angle + 270°, which is not really the same thing.

[@stephenmiller1542]

This game was such a confidence booster when I was little lol

[@sandalf647]

Smash 64 is one of the most influential fighting games in history. It is undoubtedly one of the most fun and innovative games combining the best characters from the Nintendo universe. It is also a buggy mess.

[@DoctorNovakaine]

Really, the same can be said about Pokémon Gen 1. Buggy, ridiculously unbalanced, and yet massively influential, fun, and innovative.

[@gareth4348]

Its crazy how many of these issues made their way into Melee

[@AppleAbbles]

Some math lessons about smash ultimate. All reflectors and their strength: G&W Bucket: 1x Gray Fox: 1x (He constantly reflects; his body is pretty much a reflector) Falco's Reflector: 1.2x Zelda's Nayru's Love: 1.25x Franklin Badge: 1.3x Gardevoir: 1.3x S H I N E: 1.4x Mewtwo's Confusion: 1.4x Palutena's Reflect Barrier: 1.4x Mario's Cape: 1.5x Pit/Dark Pit's Guardian Orbitars: 1.5x Lucas' Stick: 1.5x ROB's Arm Rotor: 1.5x Dedede's Succ: 1.5x Wolf's Reflector: 1.5x K. Rool's Gut Check: 1.5x Mii Gunner's Echo Reflector: 1.5x Dr. Mario's Cape: 1.6x Mii Swordfighter's Weird Rainbow Thing: 1.8x Villager/Isabelle's Pocket: 1.9x Home Run Bat: 2x Ness' Bat: 2x Obviously, Vish used Wolf and Fox because they're constant. Sure, Ness would've been best, but I don't think anyone is gonna sit there for a few minutes using F-Smash over and over on whatever move. The formula is D*(R^N), where D is damage, R is the reflector's multiplier, and N is the times rebounded. For example, bouncing a Wolf Shot (deals 8%) with Wolf's Reflector (1.5x) exactly 5 times gives us a value of (8)(1.5^5) = 60.75%. Piddly, I know. So let's crank it up. Wolf's Blaster (8%) bounced between his own Reflectors 20 times? (8)(1.5^20) = 26,602.05%. Fox's Blaster (3%) bounced between Swordfighter's Rainbow 50 times? (3)(1.8^50) = 17,407,905,077,428.62%. What if we made Ness' body a constant Bat Reflector, and bounced a Full Charge Shot (28%), let's say, 100 times? (28)(2^100) = 35,494,216,806,390,423,241,907,689,750,528%. And if we bounce a full, no-limit Lucario Aura Sphere (max multiplier of 5.4832x with a 17.2% Aura Sphere = 94.31104% total) between two Home Run Bats 1000 times? (94.31)(2^1000) = 1.011e+303. If you want that written out in full: 101,055,091,112,688,344,756,659,752,738,900,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,

[@supermaximglitchy1]

they are completely fixed in the last game

[@Dianagibbs33]

I can't believe this was considered cutting edge technology at the time

[@XRTerra]

I used to 1v3 level 9 cpus when I was like 5 and I always won it cant be my comment without saying I am 10

[@Arjido]

On which game

[@pkoolaid4038]

In Sm4sh and Ultimate that is not happening. Plus, did you have items, and what stage?

[@XRTerra]

@@Arjido it was 64 and brawl, now i cant even 1v1 a level 7 cpu

[@XRTerra]

@@pkoolaid4038 I usually did random but I loved dreamland because it was the best stage for defeating bots. Idk if there were item disables in 64 but if there were then I definitely did. Same went for brawl, turned off the items and still was able to do it, but only with kirby because he was my best character.

[@electricipea.101]

@@XRTerra You can disable items in Smash 64, though I don't really know how to get it. I played Smash 64 on my emulator and then after a couple of matched against 3 level 3 CPUs (cause i suck ;-;), bam. Suddenly, the game gives the ability to disable items.

[@jbsMUWcreations2089]

2:23 donkey Kong: ooh what's this? Charmander: NOPE!!!!

[@phantomaxl1207]

CPU Fox is pretty good with Up Air.

[@dartfeld9810]

Another thing with the AI that isn't bad but, super weird is that sometimes if you are on a platform above Yoshi, Yoshi will double jump cancel(DJC) like crazy repeatedly until you do something.

[@DingusMcCheese]

I swear it wasn't this bad as a kid

[@nialvessal]

DK: I'm gomma get you. Charmander: JUMPSCARE!

[@VelvetMagician]

Kirby so sassy with that “hai”

[@smolbb713]

Character: exists Also character: Bro I'm outta here

[@Trattt]

CPU: _Recovers once_ Player: _Knocks away CPU_ CPU: Guess I'll die

[@delgeveus7506]

Bad? The AI of Smash 64 bad? Is not the best of all the times, but it entertained me all the times I was bored Is bad? A little, but the worst? NEVER

[@breyonhopkins5690]

Looks like it was built in "if, then" statements

[@Kh01_f1sh]

I thought A.I suppose to be smart