How Mario Kart 8’s Checkpoints Were Finally Broken

[@Jopes]

Join the discord server for more info on ACs and to help with the project! discord.gg/PKm8bpxmyb Also, massive thank you to the person who posted the original video for agreeing to let me use their clip: kzbin.info/www/bejne/opivfIx6r7pnbaMsi=Evg5k2R8kpnFWWnL

[@_Ludwig__]

nah i would never join this server trust me

[@theominouspigeon]

hey ​@@_Ludwig__do you know Ludwig

[@_Ludwig__]

@@theominouspigeon i know myself and this ripoff thats so popular for some reason

[@davinengland4320]

Server has the greatest mario kart players of all time!😄 and Ludwig🙂

[@BinknotLink]

only 9.2K subs to go!

[@papertiger4525]

We did it. We broke the game to lose time. Somebody call SummoningSalt's evil twin, BanishingPepper.

[@recordkeepingandinformatio8206]

BeckoningBasil

[@Zenophoricx]

DiabolicalParsley

[@wiggletonthewise2141]

“How Mariokart players broke the game to suck ass as much as they could”

[@wiggletonthewise2141]

Maniacal Mint

[@FelineDeskFan13]

@@wiggletonthewise2141djdirkeke I’M DYING

[@FlatlandsSurvivor]

We found a way to destroy the checkpoint! To save time, right? ... To save time. Right?

[@Ight-ight]

Dw some TASer will probably complete a lap in 0.0002 seconds

[@dylans5709]

That’s the neat part you don’t

[@Baggerz182]

repent to God

[@drumunism3781]

Amen

[@RavenGamingOverLord]

Heheheh :)

[@iminumst7827]

I think it's funny that Nintendo is often so good at polishing their games, that a community will go nuts trying to find a glitch in a RACING game that makes you go SLOWER.

[@olivergro7105]

"good at polishing games" Looking at you, pokemon.

[@Atlessa]

Pokemon is not developed by Nintendo. The just own a percentage of the IP.

[@fujinshu]

@@Atlessa Yes, but Moon Channel has a good video on why Nintendo is probably the lead shareholder of Pokemon.

[@MirrorHall_Clay]

​@@fujinshuthat doesn't change the fact that they still don't develop the games.

[@kiattim2100]

​@@MirrorHall_ClayOk but I want to blame Nintendo anyways. /s

[@Shortcat321]

This is amazing work!! At this point there is no shortcut potential, but discoveries like these can open the door for future discoveries, so who knows. I'm excited for that and I really enjoyed this video Jopes! (also you guys invented the AC record category which is super cool)

[@pkdesuwu]

omg it is shortcat

[@Welovekillingtime]

My name is shortbread on Mario Kart and I’m from the UK not on a lot of VR right now but I can’t wait to face you!

[@Juicy_possum073]

Aren't you that on smash player with only 30,000 gdsp?

[@thephenomenalphantom8372]

Shortcaaaaattt im using tilt controls!

[@myleftpinkytoe]

hi jperm

[@notreallyteejay]

3:30 best players AND ludwig 💀

[@gmaster4425]

Why no replies fr fr

[@notreallyteejay]

@ haha thx (turns out i wasnt the only one commenting this

[@gmaster4425]

@@notreallyteejay fr they just bots lol

[@Neonlight3934]

"You are on this council, but we do not grant you the rank of master"

[@bunzmagee4127]

That killed me🤣🤣🤣

[@memkakes1514]

I think the reason why the first few discoverers of the glitch were in multiplayer is because the opening would be wider due to multiplayer being in 30fps in comparison to solo plays being at 60fps so the origin has longer movements per frame

[@Jopes]

This is a really good point, I had thought about the fact that it might be easier in multiplayer, but I never connected that to the fact that a lot of the clips were in multiplayer.

[@Henrix1998]

I doubt physics run at 30 fps, that sounds way too janky

[@Oshroth]

@@Henrix1998 Games that are running at 30 fps are also usually running physics at 30 fps but they may use physics interpolation to hide it. e.g. Dark Souls 1 ran at 30fps

[@1unar_eclipse]

@@Henrix1998 Most online-capable multiplayer games have vastly lower tick rate (read: rate of physics updates) than framerate; Minecraft runs at 20 TPS (even in singleplayer), Fortnite 30 (iirc), and Splatoon 2 and 3 16

[@PotatotheTroll]

​@@Henrix1998given the amount of network traffic a 60hz physics update over the internet would create, 30 physics fps seems like a decent tradeoff.

[@Through_TheWind]

"the greatest mario kart players and ludwig" lmao Edit: HAPPY NOW?

[@vVearon]

you gotta seperate the goats and the players

[@Schmali_Benni]

@@vVearonYeah Ludwig the goat and the others just playin 🗣️🔥

[@FatYoshiMemes]

Luddy is my goat

[@FatYoshiMemes]

Nvm wrong Ludwig

[@ThylineTheGay]

The 'L' in 'ludwig' stands for 'L'

[@Rad0905]

Really appreciate the 3D renders of the zones and invisible walls. Much easier to understand then the top down graphs

[@_Ludwig__]

Since it got cut out of the final version of the video I'm now making a comment about DK Jungle, the AC on that track was patched in Wave 4 through changing the checkpoints in that area so you cant perform it on the current version of the game. However if you reset your switch and have a physical copy which has version 2.2.0 or lower you can go back to that version and still perform the glitch. I got 9 laps on DK Jungle this way without using any shrooms, the video for that is in the Discord (seriously go join it right now) and on my channel.

[@Jax_brix]

cool

[@Monkeymario.]

Cool also you deserve more subs! As much subs as Jopes has

[@AstaryuuGaming]

Wouldn't that also mean you can do it in original MK8? Or was the checkpoint system altered between 8 and 8D to make it impossible?

[@Monkeymario.]

@@AstaryuuGaming Good question.

[@_Ludwig__]

@@AstaryuuGaming everything works in 8u too

[@Orange_AvengerYT]

Of course the shroomless AC was discovered with Funky Kong. Broken in Wii, broken in 8.

[@Jopes]

Was waiting for this comment

[@NeonWasInUse]

It always comes back to Funky Kong.

[@Ight-ight]

Funky Kong is just superior in any game

[@GoldenYoshi1]

Funky Kong the unbeatable overpowered sex god.

[@Ight-ight]

@@GoldenYoshi1 funky Kong is one of those isekai mcs that pulls 100 different big tit women

[@Nobody432_YT]

We need TASers to get on this before they patch it

[@segadoeswhatnintendont]

They probably won't patch it

[@Jopes]

you're right, the chance of them patching it is very low. They could do a simple patch to fix the ones that we've found so far, but this wouldn't solve the underlying issue (which would take a LOT of work to fix). And also, this glitch doesn't really pose that much of a threat to the game as a whole, so I'd image they would just leave it be.

[@queeniesix]

@@Jopes nintendo would probably care less anyways

[@superyahoo1822]

@@queeniesix nintendo does care a lot about bugs in their game even if no one would ever encounter them unless they are specifically looking for them so if they would still be doing updates then they would probably at least fix the ones that he discovered

[@Andybest1]

Did someone say TAS👀

[@BLBambooMK2]

This actually such a cool video what. Didn’t think me and Tigan’s “for fun” discovery so many years ago would ever become relevant again

[@Jopes]

its actually wild that you guys found this video so quick

[@BLBambooMK2]

@@Jopes I’ve seen some of your content before and someone in my discord got this in their recommended so I had to give it a watch

[@EthanRohn-w1p]

Now you can get the two impossible coins from the collecting every coin video in royal race way.

[@_Ludwig__]

yes i already did that

[@randomnsclips]

Nice video! Too bad the only flaw we found in the mk8's checkpoint system only serve to waste time, but I'm glad to finally understand what happened in this clip

[@cerulity32k]

funny thing is this can be easily fixed with a linecast (if those exist within mk8dx's engineer, otherwise by just sampling more positions in between)

[@senbatifanola]

@@cerulity32kwouldn’t sampling more in between technically just making it harder to get instead of really patching it?

[@cerulity32k]

@senbatifanola Fair. They could do a linecast.

[@masayukiphiaihara3296]

A reverse ultra shortcut

[@segadoeswhatnintendont]

An infra shortcut, if you will

[@hAboyd]

Wouldn't it be... a long-cut?

[@IDKisReal2401]

Between infra shortcut and ultra longcut the latter feels more like it portrays this, infra shortcut sounds like a really bad shortcut, while ultra longcut sounds like the long way round Though ultra long feels best since cut implies the removal of something and ultra long is just, long

[@Fritz_Haarmann]

ultra short glue™️

[@IDKisReal2401]

@@Fritz_Haarmann Ultra long-gluing, we found it

[@Pixiuchu]

2:04 now that's a cool transition

[@GabrielePaladini]

u serious?

[@Pixiuchu]

@@GabrielePaladini Yes, I am.

[@GabrielePaladini]

@Pixiuchu It Is not a transition?

[@violinwire5007]

​@@GabrielePaladini???

[@Pixiuchu]

@@GabrielePaladini 2:04 - gameplay 2:05 - transitions to a white screen, and then zooms out to reveal the two youtube videos This is a transition. It transitions from gameplay to a screenshot in a fancy way. I probably should have timestamped 2:04 instead of 2:05 for a bit more clarity.

[@Mkmcco]

People dedicating absurd amounts of time to finding ridiculous bugs/breaking the game as a whole has to be my favorite little corner of every video game fandom. Subscribed

[@happily_blue]

9:13 why does this look like it should be in a jfk assassination documentary

[@TheNoobMaster_66]

Lmao

[@CathodeRayKobold]

You didn't have to do Ludwig dirty like that

[@didideesnuds]

Im pretty sure its a different ludwig because he said in the vid that this ludwig is german

[@daper1015]

Alternative title: a bunch of grown men spending hours to make an almost 20-minute video on shortcuts that make you slower.

[@TheLegoAnimator863]

Sounds about right😂

[@livwake]

Jopes is like 14

[@crazyiwascrazyoncetheylocked]

it's funny to see his voice deepen as you go forward in his videos lol

[@SamMem3r]

Fr I loved it when he had his young voice

[@silvesta5027]

He went from a boy to a man fr

[@everything_review1]

Idk I can’t really see it, my ears do though

[@crazyiwascrazyoncetheylocked]

@@everything_review1 dang alr, true tho

[@Toyboatsthegreat]

At first i thought ther were multiple people 😂

[@fluffsquirrel]

So much respect for all of this progress and for not begging for subs midway, even though you could easily do that and nobody would blame you.

[@ihv2010_cc]

I appreciate these videos sooo much, the 3D models and the video generally are super polished

[@robbothegobbo8653]

19:10 Integrity right there

[@davidfernando1765]

Man you're basically doing Mario kart history right now, discovering new important glitches and tricks. This is definitely a great day for the Mario kart community.

[@emmyfatale]

as soon as my friend found your video, he tried it himself and performed the first RR anti-cut in your video before I even had the chance to show him said video.

[@redtaileddolphin1875]

As someone with the initials AC I’d like to thank you for adding yet another meaning to my collection of AC’s Among them of course being Armor Class, Assassins’s Creed, Animal Crossing, and Air Conditioning

[@remor698]

You can also add Armored Core to that list, as your initials also represent Fromsoftware's take on mechs.

[@Baxiljn]

You can also add Alternating Current.

[@Aesculathehyena]

AC/DC?

[@redtaileddolphin1875]

Ngl I’m malding that I forgot the electricity one that one feels so obvious and I usually do list it

[@Atlessa]

But did you know abou Ace Combat, Assetto Corsa, Air Canada, the Anterior Cruciate in the Knee and the German City of Aachen which uses AC on it's license plates.

[@Stickboi]

3:30 "so i gathered a team of the best mario kart players i knew, and ludwig" i love how he seperated ludwig from the best mario kart players

[@manfredi19]

Great to see the video finally done. I really care about this topic since I’ve always been interested in how checkpoints work, I’ve been looking into how ACs all the way back since early 2023. It was awesome to help with the research alongside you and the others, and I’m glad it all came together so well.

[@bloxrocks5179]

breaking the checkpoint system to *lose* time is hilarious. nice work

[@BooTube5]

Interesting. I love the 3D renders you use to showcase the paths and shortcut planes, very cool!

[@KillzXGaming01]

Very well made video! Also nice to see my tool (Track Studio) for viewing the checkpoint and collision info, glad to see it was useful for this!

[@Jopes]

I recognized your name immediately, I can't believe you made both Track Studio AND toolbox, (which is what I've been using to get all my models). tysm for your work :)

[@bogotesr]

thats genuinely crazy but I had a thought, if its based on framerate then would playing 3-4 multiplayer make it easier since it drops to 30fps

[@Jopes]

@@bogotesr i have legitimately considered putting my switch in the oven to get it more consistently, but this seems like a slightly better idea

[@hhhh82user]

@@Jopesummmmmm...

[@Sythorius]

@@hhhh82user so close, that’s a microwave

[@xirolyfe]

@@Sythoriusthat was surprisingly good

[@craftyawesome6830]

@@Jopes I'm not aware of the switch downclocking or otherwise slowing down when hot, I think it just forces sleep.

[@Str4ky]

Jopes and Manfredi playing Mario Kart the way Nintendo NEVER WANTED you to play. Driving tracks with the most laps in their count

[@laggianput]

Imagine if this could lead to a shortcut revolution due to a better understanding of everything?

[@Cyr3x7]

18:27 It’s probably lakitu’s 5 second failsafe glitching out, cause you’ve already hit the checkpoints leading up to it, but I don’t know exactly what happened

[@FadkinsDiet]

But what happens at 18:40? Lakitu definitely heads in the wrong direction for an instant.

[@Toadfish10]

15:20 If I'm remembering correctly, that area was inbounds in one variation in Tour, so that might be why you can drive there.

[@colororb4105]

It would be neat if the next MK had some kind of "practice mode" for time trials where you have infinite mushrooms. Maybe also a button that sets a custom respawn point and another button to instantly teleport back to it

[@luminousherbs]

they should be called ultra longcuts, like ultra shortcuts

[@Xx_Sunny0mor1_xX]

as always you're one of the most dedicated youtubers I know of and as always you're criminally underrated. Keep the good stuff coming and I wish you a happy November!

[@glapigloup]

That video is truly one giant step for the mk8dx community, and we’ll hopefully find other glitchs like this one !

[@danbonestrider]

13:25 can't believe americans call this track Music Park. in England it's called Melody Motorway which I reckon sounds far nicer

[@blacksmith52565]

I cant believe that us and uk have different translations

[@TheBananaGD]

britain have great name choices (i’m british)

[@pjgamer780]

nicely made video! Definitely underrated! This video is very well made :D Bonus compliment: beautiful song choice, vancouver velocity, other track OST, AND misplaced my keys?!?! That's like one of my favorite!

[@0ke_ye-f9c]

What is the song at 2:09?

[@metoxys]

@@0ke_ye-f9c Home - Head First

[@MSCardinal]

6:33 And that's why you draw raycasts for fast moving objects. Glad the developers didn't in this case tho.

[@kaye_kayeslider]

3:30 “the best Mario kart players I knew… and ludwig” 💀

[@Zachruff]

Glad someone finally looked into this, and amazing animation work too this is a well put together video.

[@superceilingfan9741]

"Animal Crossing, Armored Core, Assassin's Creed, Air Conditioning... are there any other AC's I need to know about?" The humble Jopes:

[@_Ludwig__]

Alternating Current

[@alexstewart9592]

Armour Class, from D&D.

[@Somebody-kf2zy]

You know the video is about to be fire when 2010 synthwave starts playing while he's explaining something

[@silvesta5027]

Ludwig catching strays 😭

[@DaEevster]

4:49 So tecnically this is a historical moment for us germans? Ein Land, ein Reich, ein dominierter Mario Kart Bereich

[@Lustivn]

"Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think if they should."

[@doraladorade1564]

I love this kind of videos that document the tedious work to find game exploits. Especially when it's well presented for more casual players with the explainations, the 3D models of checkpoints zones and so on That discovery may or may not be useful for future speedruns, TAS or superplays, but in any case that's always interesting to see the reasoning, experiments and findings that allow these performances to happen

[@vincere2060]

4:50 it basically means complete/completed

[@thebreads4334]

Duh

[@vincere2060]

@ nuh

[@Oliin99]

complete, done, finish/ed (example Ich bin fertig mit der Arbeit = I'm done with work)

[@vincere2060]

@@Oliin99 wir brauchen nicht mehr als 1 übersetzung

[@Oliin99]

@@vincere2060 OK Entschuldigung.

[@sabin1022]

MKWii: Look what they need to mimic a fraction of my power

[@seed9507]

man it took so long to find these ac, you diserve likes!

[@bruce4139]

Honestly, thank you for being a youtuber who asks for the subscribers ONE time at the end. Theres a channel that I quit watching because they were aways asking multiple times a video, and I have watched a handful of your videos so im happy to subscribe

[@electricshiningkirbyUK]

4:50 ‘Fertig’ means ‘Finished’ in German 🇩🇪

[@gamin9wizard945]

I'd like to throw the word "done" as an alternative translation in. Personally I'd associated the word "beendet" more with the word "finished" But both are suitable translations for 'fertig' in this context

[@Cobaltoad]

he shows the english version of the "finish" text right after showing the "fertig" one too... it should be obvious what it means 😭

[@IsaacHND]

no way, really???? who coulda guessed!!!!😱😱😱😱😱

[@deetrixreed8961]

I 100% subbed because you did not interrupt your video with it. Wishing you all the love, respect and success you deserve!

[@bonthecuber]

I just realized Ludwig wasn’t the same Ludwig I was thinking of

[@zShiny]

W Video, congrats for spending so much time to discover this!

[@mt2r-music]

My man gave up like 20 times during the video but still ended up winning

[@4ndrito]

"some of the best mario kart players i know, and ludwig"

[@TheMeIonCat]

4:49 Ich freue mich immer wenn ich deutsche Sachen in Videos von englischen KZbin-Kanälen sehe. 😂

[@tmaster2151]

ive never played mario kart 8 let alone any mario kart to a extended extent. never watched ant videos but this is straight cinema. the lack of care for doing something better but actually worse. then spend hours on it days even weeks. im locked into this video like no other. ive subscribed on 7 alt accounts ive liked it hundreds of times. this alone might be the greatest 20 minutes ive ever watched.

[@TeaSippingCommunist]

10:12 bros got more friends online than i have total

[@boisjke]

I was about to say the same thing rn

[@scheinstein2864]

Really liked your vid, it has such nice visuals

[@Flapjack483]

This is where the fun begins...

[@xXxFulguroxXx]

Truly amazed by the level of dedication !! So inspiring, thank you very much, I've got a great time watching your video ! 🙏✨

[@Tom-101]

I feel like a fake nerd after seeing how dedicated you guys are to this

[@Fritixx]

That’s so cool. As someone who plays a lot of Mario kart 8 deluxe, I’ve never thought something like that was possible

[@TheGamingMastodonsaurus]

I love how new glitches are being discovered!

[@yohoopzcrazy4629]

Your videos are super well done and excellently paced, keep it up!

[@ALocalYTUser]

I think this should be called. How yapping told us nothing about ultra shortcuts. But hey it's certainly something 😊 nice way to lose time. I still appreciate you for your efforts ☺️

[@lukehughes6943]

This video in a sentence: "Then we found one that was a sure thing, but we gave up on it and looked for something else because it was taking a while."

[@Maybe2300]

“The greatest Mario kart players I know! …and ludwig.”

[@_Ghostrider99]

Never thought id see people so happy to find a glitch that hurts you

[@ClearLampOil]

I kept dying because how many times he said "so we gave up", it caught me off guard

[@ponderingForever]

Gives the same energy of "so I booked a flight to Japan-"

[@trinoxgamer]

After watching this video, I was like "why I am watching this video , i don't even play mario kart"

[@Lucca_Time]

It's actually quite funny to imagine that Nintendo might see this - then pick up on this information - and hold a meeting for the next Mario Kart game (which is most certainly in development right now) to avoid this exact thing. Cuz' there's NO WAY they thought about this in the first place.

[@kani-]

Dope video, i like the HOME music picks, reminds me of someone but i can't remember who 🤫

[@FirefoxyLeGibus]

The speedrunning community : *tries to break the checkpoint system to be faster* Jopes : *breaks the checkpoint system to be SLOWER*

[@DragonDave99]

These videos inspire me because not only are you guys super dedicated, but also it is really interesting to see how the game works! You’re quality in this video is incredible and I hope we find some more ACs soon 👀

[@87firearrow]

2:14 I knew this vid was worth it to watch the whole way through, from this moment, because of the song choice. (I watched it the whole way through on my alt)

[@0ctoBlade64]

4:50 „fertig“ means finish

[@IsaacHND]

NO WAY WHO COULD'VE GUESSED???🤯🤯🫨😱😱

[@jeeequeue]

@@IsaacHNDto be exact. Fertig is german for done or complete Its used bc if we would use the normal translation, which would be finish, it would be Ziel.

[@sniperthenoodle6324]

I hate it when youtubers ask you to subscribe outright, and 99.99999% of the time when they do it it's right at the start before any content is shown, or in the middle interrupting everything. I really appreciate you waiting until the entire subject matter is over to ask for support and then explaining why on top. You've earned one here at least.

[@theominouspigeon]

we finally cracked it

[@LeoMyFriend]

super interesting video, but also, your production value has gotten so good dude, keep it up!

[@tigan007]

sick video

[@Jopes]

NO WAY, ITS YOU!

[@sagapz]

ITS YOU!

[@BLBambooMK2]

@tigan007 I did not think that this would ever be relevant again but here we are LOL

[@Brik2246]

we need a summoning salt documentary asap

[@maritoguionyo]

6:09 spinning yoshi

[@Cooky_LP]

That was a really good video. I find it interesting. FERTIG!

[@AsrielDreemurr56]

2:12 Got jumpscared suddenly hearing Head First, I love Home

[@St4rvingPeople]

I always loved your videos, it's exciting finding you again Those mk videos are so cool, I would watch em again, I really love this kind of videos JAJSJS GOOD VIDEO JOPES 🎉

[@darkbystar]

I don't know why I cried over the Shroomless Anticut. But I'll accept it because the amount of work for this seemingly ridiculous glitch must have been A DAMN LOT and I cannot... Not, respect it. Good Work, guys. Good work

[@tintin9573]

I respect what you did at the end with the subscribe thing. You certainly got my subscription!

[@nadavga]

The best Mariokart players I knew, and Ludwig Excuse me sir, can I get some water for these SICK BURNS?

[@ToritoGHG]

One of the best Mario Kart videos ever❤

[@Felicitastic]

4:50 it means "FINISH!" 🏁

[@TheOffside0423]

You finally hit 100k subs. I always believe in you from the start. I remember you having like 1.5k subs with like 3 videos. I am so proud!!!