How Biased Narratives Shaped Public Opinion on BLM with Zac Kriegman

[@everythingsawesome]

I work in a progressive media newsroom and this video is absolutely spot-on correct. This happens a lot. Narrative-driven contortions and distortions of fact sets deemed inconvenient to the preloaded narrative, frequently motivated by selection bias for political salience and moral valiance. Confirming this. You might like it or dislike it, but it's largely what happens, indisputable. Keep up the good work, Coleman.

[@kimj5037]

Really appreciate these fact based conversations. What bothered me the most about these protests was seeing white people scream racial slurs at black police officers. The cognitive dissonance was just deafening.

[@brianmeen2158]

Yes I remember the bizarre feeling I felt when watching the 2020 riots . It was the first time in my life where I felt something was very very wrong with our system as we know it . Then I looked at the media and universities and yep

[@kimj5037]

@@brianmeen2158 Same here. Prior to 2020, I mainly watched CNN for my US news. So, I've been playing catch-up for the last two years. I was very happy to discover people like Coleman, Glenn & John, Kimi Katiti, Thomas Sowell....

[@aceproinc]

@@kimj5037 you found some really good people to follow....KEEP IT UP KIM

[@tolearntoaskisthattrue6086]

A person who truly appreciates fact-based conversations, could read the post I reference below -- and recognize reality with ease. Since the story centers on artillery rockets and material properties of centrifuge rotors (evidence involving mathematical certainty on matters of world-altering consequence): Citing Sowell's books on economics, race, and whatnot to prop up his "brilliance" -- is cognitive dissonance that's as deafening as it gets. "What's the evidence in question and what did Sowell say about it?" It's that simple -- and yet for telling this undeniable truth for nearly 20 years, I've been practically spit on by people who supposedly appreciate fact-based conversations. Let's see if you're one of the few who lives up to their word: There is no amount of gain you could give me to believe something to be true that is false. When warranted, I will defend those I despise and call out those I like. I call a spade a spade, period. The disciples of Thomas Sowell have no such notion. His kind fabricated this fantasyland where they follow the facts wherever they go. Your record is who you are - not what you believe. His army of apologists are gutless in the face of facts they don’t like - disguised by their goose-stepping glory in the "Facts Over Feelings" Parade. He’s the Grand Marshal of this lockstep lovefest - and the Admiral of the Scot-Free fleet. I didn't write the following post from my imagination: "Behold the Legacy of Your Beloved Sowell: Disciples on Duty" ==*** test for edit/spacing ***==

[@tyronevaldez-kruger5313]

@@kimj5037 I wouldn't make it into a black vs white thing since I saw a lot of black people yelling racial slurs at white cops as well. These protests were quite chaotic: BLM protesters, far-right counter-protesters and cops overwhelmed. Btw I would check these gentleman's statements which are not so fact based.

[@heleneshomes]

Thank you for being the REAL social justice fighters!

[@davebannister323]

Coleman , not heard your podcasts for a while , always great to hear a " balanced viewpoint " , Thanks and wishing you every success .

[@amritzelnick]

Coleman, you are the keeper of a wonderful intellect and the gifts of clear articulation and an even temperament. Best wishes to you. You deserve tremendous success

[@Diana-sm6vr]

I have appreciated your integrity since the first time I've heard you speak. Please know that that integrity is something our civilization depends on if we are to survive.

[@leskobrandon691]

Never heard of you or seen any of your work but one you gave this man an honest interview and two your comments on the Kyle Rittenhouse bias reporting left me very impressed. As a result I subscribed to your channel and look forward to hearing much more of your work.

[@Flashyfinancier]

"I got fired by woke BLM bullies" - Zac Kriegman

[@aimeerogers4542]

I appreciate listening to people with common sense and that's one reason why I enjoy listening to you.

[@iantodoyle5074]

I am from the UK. It seems to me that European police are better trained in de-escalation and restraint than in the US..when the facts are wrong, the causes misunderstood and the results misinterpreted then the solutions will be incorrect and probably make things worse....

[@MrSunrise-]

Yeah, and American officers have the added challenge of (reasonably) assuming that everyone they encounter is carrying a concealed firearm. The yanks made their bed, now they get to lay in it.

[@jonz23m]

@@MrSunrise- statistically speaking your point is delusional.

[@lewis20002000]

Glad these guys are not avoiding kinds of encounters and kinds of crimes. Racial misunderstanding of each other continues to plague us.

[@zetablade7018]

This was a very informative discussion, thanks again Coleman. Its this disingenuous behavior within our institutions that has cost them our trust. The best part being that they are still scratching their heads as to why their viewership is circling the drain compared to more honest independent news sources.

[@danilopompey754]

Police officer Darren Wilson who murdered Mike Brown never filed his "required" police report of what happened. That alone indicts him as culpable - regardless of the whitewash by the DA of Ferguson and the subsequent whitewash by the Justice Dept.. If he were in the right, he certainly would have filed the report disclosing exactly what happened, but he, in effect, took the fifth. I wonder why? QED

[@danilopompey754]

Finally, White police need to be held accountable, period, just like anyone else who murders an unarmed person, Black or White. Ironically though, here’s a rhetorical question for you. Who benefited most from the Civil Rights Act of 1964? White women. So, if BLM succeeds in holding White cops accountable for murdering unarmed Black citizens, who will benefit most? White citizens because in raw numbers White cops murder more unarmed White citizens without being held accountable. (After all, what happens to Black cops who murder unarmed White citizens? They go straight to jail, which is why Black cops are not out running amok killing White citizens like White cops are murdering Black citizens. Why? Because it wouldn't be tolerated. After all, White lives matter.)

[@FourthExile]

I work at one of these legacy media companies. They’re still out of touch and act as if the problem is always on the outside. It’s as if they want to beat a dead horse enough that’ll it’ll get up again and race.

[@kevinfox2370]

Thank you for being so thought provoking.

[@dmvbawse4265]

Love your content we need to have more honest discussions freely.

[@peteratkinson922]

Ideology- the killer of happiness. A faceless, self-serving endlessly hurtling unaccountable one way journey to societal oblivion.

[@jeffb8562]

Man was fired for posting stats about race and police shootings.

[@tomcotter4299]

Congrats on 100K subs!

[@briandavis4580]

You and your guest made some excellent points yet again. I appreciate when people try to stick to the data and avoid falling victim to the common arguments from either side. If I'm not mistaken, Professor Fryer found that Black men were more likely to have *force* used against them (20-25 percent more likely?), but not more likely to be shot when unarmed? I believe Coleman mentioned that in an article he shared. People seemed to think Mr. Fryer was saying there was NO bias in policing, but he never said they don't pull over Black people more, profile them, etc. and did say they had force used against them. He simply said they weren't more likely to be shot by police. I am far from an expert on the subject but have some thoughts. For starters, I really appreciated your point about some publications not reporting the race of the people involved in the Kyle Rittenhouse attack. While I saw some people report the race of the people who chased him, I got annoyed when other publications conveniently left that out. Given what was happening at that time and what people were protesting against, it wasn't surprising that many people's natural assumption was that those who Rittenhouse ended up shooting were Black. That was incredibly dishonest to not mention that they were not Black, and I suspect the majority of these publications knowingly left out that information to push a certain narrative. That is incredibly frustrating. Leaving out important information is messed up and breeds distrust with those publications in the future. I've seen similar things from some right-leaning publications as well when it fits their narrative. Withholding information that provides important background or claiming things about perpetrators of crimes or their victims that clearly weren't true (a shooter was a devout Muslim, a shooter was transgender, etc.) is exasperating. I appreciate people like you who try to avoid dogma and partisanship at a time when partisanship has made smart people act like fools. Another thing about race in America in general is that so many of these discussions only involve White and Black Americans. While those discussions make sense in some situations, the country has become a lot more diverse in recent decades. There are a higher number of Latinos, Asians, etc. and Native Americans were often and still often are ignored altogether. There are a lot of multiracial Americans too. Therefore, when people only focus on White and Black disparities when it comes to victims of violent crimes or other things in society but ignore people from other groups, it can sometimes lead us to the wrong conclusions.

[@majorbloodnok6659]

Thank you

[@purdysanchez]

Unfortunately, all this national debate has uncovered is that most people don't understand simple logic statements and Venn diagrams.

[@danilopompey754]

Police officer Darren Wilson who murdered Mike Brown never filed his "required" police report of what happened. That alone indicts him as culpable - regardless of the whitewash by the DA of Ferguson and the subsequent whitewash by the Justice Dept.. If he were in the right, he certainly would have filed the report disclosing exactly what happened, but he, in effect, took the fifth. I wonder why? QED

[@danilopompey754]

Finally, White police need to be held accountable, period, just like anyone else who murders an unarmed person, Black or White. Ironically though, here’s a rhetorical question for you. Who benefited most from the Civil Rights Act of 1964? White women. So, if BLM succeeds in holding White cops accountable for murdering unarmed Black citizens, who will benefit most? White citizens because in raw numbers White cops murder more unarmed White citizens without being held accountable. (After all, what happens to Black cops who murder unarmed White citizens? They go straight to jail, which is why Black cops are not out running amok killing White citizens like White cops are murdering Black citizens. Why? Because it wouldn't be tolerated. After all, White lives matter.)

[@purdysanchez]

@@danilopompey754, so, would you say you're blackwashing this event?

[@danilopompey754]

@@purdysanchez, maybe. QED

[@michaelneufeld4515]

What's your response to the fact that black people constitute 12% of the population of the US but make up 34% of those who are unarmed and killed by police, disproportionate even after taking into account statistical factors such as higher prevalence of violent crime among the black population? Or the defunct stop and frisk program in NYC having had statistically clear racial bias in its targeting?

[@TheLosrodri]

Never an uninteresting topic, but just out of curiosity, is this a rerun of a podcast from 2020? This ish is old 📰. That being said, I’m just glad I finally got a Coleman Hughes video on my feed! KZbin is suppressing Coleman big time. Keep up the good work bromigo!

[@richardjohnston-bell476]

just want to comment about the part of the video round the 7 minute mark. Coleman was talking about people assuming Kyle shot three black people when reading/seeing media reports. He stated that this was because the reports mentioned Kyles skin colour but not the people he shot, so left it ambigious. I think he missed the further possibility that the media article would have mentioned that it was at a black lives matter rally, probably in the same sentence that they mentioned white Kyle; so "white Kyle shot three people at black lives matter protest". Perhaps media viewers associated the word 'black' with the protesters on a subconscious level as white is already mentioned to describe Kyle, leaving a requirement to have a skin colour to describe the three protesters. So because viewers expected a skin colour described for protesters, they implicitly used the first colour word mentioned - 'black'.

[@MrAjmay1]

Yeah 100%. I recall the hot takes specifically threw in the "BLM rally" tag to add extra outrage and clickbait, further encouraging the erroneous inference. Technically "true", but with severely misleading implications...particularly among those already primed to be triggered at everything.

[@zxyatiywariii8]

Exactly, I saw that too, I even had a woman IRL tell me Kyle had "murdered two black men", and she was genuinely shocked when I showed her photos of the people who'd been shot (I don't call them "victims" because they were attackers). Tagging "BLM" to the story, without mentioning their race, was so cunningly duplicitous, I don't believe it was done unintentionally.

[@benjamintrevino325]

it cuts both ways. People erroneously blame BLM for the riots, even though the peaceful protests and the rioting were two different things.

[@henrylicious]

@@benjamintrevino325 Not necessarily.

[@willinguyen1]

@@benjamintrevino325 no, BLM leaders encourage the riots and looting. It's documented

[@nickgoesvestmode]

I would love to see some sort of chart/diagram on that last couple of minutes of data he was giving. It got a little confusing.

[@AndrewPolidori]

Yea, was hard for me to follow as well, felt like there were times when he used black instead of white and vice versa.

[@filmjazz]

It can be boiled down to this: blacks as a percentage of overall population is not the metric we should be using when comparing to percentage of lethal police shootings by race. We should be looking at number of police interactions across the different racial groups where lethal force was needed to be used, and then looking at whether blacks are disproportionately killed compared to whites. He’s saying no, it’s the other way around when using the more appropriate starting metrics.

[@FedericoGPena]

@@AndrewPolidori That's pretty much what happened: he used Black instead of White when he attempting to delineate the proportionality between the percentage of murderers of cops vs. the percentage of suspects shot by cops. In the case of Black perpetrators, the percentage of [cop] murderers was higher than the percentage of Black folk shot; conversely, the percentage of White murderers of police was lower than the percentage of White suspects shot. He just messed up and said Black both times.

[@purdysanchez]

He's saying instead of comparing police shooting incidents to demographic population numbers, we should compare them to violent crime and police interactions by demographic.

[@michaelneufeld4515]

@@filmjazz What's your response to the fact that black people constitute 12% of the population of the US but make up 34% of those who are unarmed and killed by police, disproportionate even after taking into account statistical factors such as higher prevalence of violent crime among the black population? Or the defunct stop and frisk program in NYC having had statistically clear racial bias in its targeting?

[@luckystarship2275]

This is why I'd never suscribe to The Guardian (the British liberal newspaper); they confuse advocacy for journalism.

[@danilopompey754]

White police need to be held accountable, period, just like anyone else who murders an unarmed person, Black or White. Ironically though, here’s a rhetorical question for you. Who benefited most from the Civil Rights Act of 1964? White women. So, if BLM succeeds in holding White cops accountable for murdering unarmed Black citizens, who will benefit most? White citizens because in raw numbers White cops murder more unarmed White citizens without being held accountable. (After all, what happens to Black cops who murder unarmed White citizens? They go straight to jail, which is why Black cops are not out running amok killing White citizens like White cops are murdering Black citizens. Why? Because it wouldn't be tolerated. After all, White lives matter.)

[@13e11even11]

“Maybe senior leadership didn’t know about this”🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣.

[@matham625]

once again Coleman: brave, wise and intelligent, keep up the good work, but you need a higher profile.

[@8020drummer]

Just watched we own this city, which dramatizes the other half of freyer’s findings - the fact that black people get roughed up more. As freyer said in his interview with Colman, we also ought to acknowledge that bit, and look for solutions. (The tv show bravely linked it to the drug war, and I think another one is the gun control initiatives?) But it’s true that it’s difficult to have a conversation about the real numbers of killings. Such a conversation could refocus us on the real problem, which is non lethal violence.

[@wiseonwords]

Very good point!

[@zxyatiywariii8]

I haven't seen that yet, but I was in Minneapolis when George Floyd was killed, and two things I wish more people could "grok": 1. Non-white teens and young adults (18 - 25) get targeted more by law enforcement, and 2. Non-white -- and _especially black_ -- teens and young adults get treated more roughly by police and security. Look at me. . . I'm a tiny, harmless-looking woman. But I can't even remember how often I've been targeted and stopped, once even handcuffed, despite the fact that I haven't stolen anything, and I have no police record. _It really gets irritating!_ 🤦🏾‍♀️🤬 And I'm sure black guys get targeted much, much more than I do. That said, I don't blame all white people or all white cops just because SOME are racist. I only wish more people could approach this calmly and logically, and work together. The Kendi/DiAngelo approach is only making things worse. But I love this channel! THIS kind of calm discussion is what we need more of.

[@8020drummer]

@@zxyatiywariii8 it seems like Freyer's research revealed this too. I feel like if BLM had just been factual about the problems they could've accomplished many of the same things, and there wouldn't have been this terrible emperor's new clothes thing driving a wedge between liberals who otherwise would've supported it unequivocally

[@tomcotter4299]

Story will always be more persuasive than data. Evolution produced brains that rely on story as a way to efficiently make sense of the massive amounts of data our environment throws at us. It takes a lot less energy to generate a story than collect and analyze data.

[@jackdeniston6150]

and, even less energy to just dismiss all 'stories' Which is who I m right now.

[@tomcotter4299]

@@jackdeniston6150 That's a tough way to live. Stories are how we make sense of our life, our identity, our purpose for existence. Rejecting all stories can leave a person feeling very empty and lost. I'd recommend embracing useful stories, those that encourage you to be the best version of yourself.

[@danilopompey754]

Police officer Darren Wilson who murdered Mike Brown never filed his "required" police report of what happened. That alone indicts him as culpable - regardless of the whitewash by the DA of Ferguson and the subsequent whitewash by the Justice Dept.. If he were in the right, he certainly would have filed the report disclosing exactly what happened, but he, in effect, took the fifth. I wonder why? QED

[@danilopompey754]

Finally, White police need to be held accountable, period, just like anyone else who murders an unarmed person, Black or White. Ironically though, here’s a rhetorical question for you. Who benefited most from the Civil Rights Act of 1964? White women. So, if BLM succeeds in holding White cops accountable for murdering unarmed Black citizens, who will benefit most? White citizens because in raw numbers White cops murder more unarmed White citizens without being held accountable. (After all, what happens to Black cops who murder unarmed White citizens? They go straight to jail, which is why Black cops are not out running amok killing White citizens like White cops are murdering Black citizens. Why? Because it wouldn't be tolerated. After all, White lives matter.)

[@danilopompey754]

Tom, stop pretending to be stupid, please. Culpable of murder . . . dah. QED

[@jpruhu7662]

I appreciated the vitality of the blm slogan but have been constantly frustrated by the vapid nature of the activism and protests. No organization, no moral imperative, inclusion of contradictory agendas, and the now exposed capitalist excesses that fail to reach the ground. A great example of the potential of network vitality. A cautionary tale of how decentralized activism will be dismantled by capitalism and greed.

[@henrylicious]

The whole point of BLM was to monetize the empathy people had for the African American plight. That's all. A grift from the beginning.

[@sivacrom]

I think your guest messed up and used “black” where he meant to say “white” at least twice towards the end…

[@americanaforever6725]

Actually, the "knee on neck" was taught as an approved "non-lethal" restraint meant to protect the officers, the public and, this may be difficult to believe, but the suspect. Minneapolis PD Use Of Force report covering, I'm not exactly certain on the exact dates, 2012-2019 cited hundreds of times the restraint technique was used and approximately 50 suspects were rendered unconscious. In the case of a fatality there's usually some health/medical contributing factor. The police aren't being callous but rather expecting the best outcome for the suspect. The determination of whether to use the restraint is based on the suspects actions and perceived state of mind. This has sadly, but as expected, not been a perfect procedure for resistive suspects. The upper management, unions and training programs should be on trial, not the officers.

[@bwake]

I don’t think it’s possible to restrain someone who resists with zero possibility of a fatality.

[@americanaforever6725]

@@bwake I strongly agree. Interesting note on the older (pre 2020) Minneapolis Training Manual it’s recommended to use knee on back of neck restraints for 1) securing the suspect or 2) purposely rendering them unconscious for all parties benefit if necessary. “Forearm on the front of the neck ie; throat” ( lethal force) can be used if suspect presents deadly danger. Fortunately most PD’s are redressing the restraint issue however the unintended consequences could actually be more live lost

[@danyfields9075]

Why would that even be acceptable. Make your husband or wife just try restraining you using that method sfter taking some sleeping pills and see if you live to tell us the results. Officers should implore better means of restraining a suspect and this level of aggression is hardly shown to whites. How many whites have we seen take police cruisers, shot at them and even try to run them over with their vehicles then restrained without a scratch but a black person would be killed instantaneously/

[@machtnichtsseimann]

@ AMERICANA FOREVER - I brought up this fact with friends/ family who were only looking at how Floyd died while saying "I can't breathe." When the public was FINALLY shown the longer undedited video clip clearly showing Floyd standing and stressing out saying, "I can't breathe", when NO ONE was touching him, it was one of the most irresponsible, unethical and possibly sinister acts by the Media ( and anyone calling the shots on how the public gets their information and "facts" ). Whenever I brought it up and how IMO Chauvin didn't exactly get a fair trial ( and the context of how it was a legal tactic used in submission, for years ), not that I thought he was completely innocent of any part in Floyd's death ( and I definitely didn't believe it was about "race" ), everyone would just get get quiet, not say anything, or completely disregard it. Didn't it matter that the Media immediately framed the incident as White Cop / Black Man? Travesty of Justice, in all honesty.

[@americanaforever6725]

@@machtnichtsseimann I have to completely agree. The tragedy of Mr Floyd’s death was weaponized by the media, they profit greatly from sensationalizing stories. Politicians crave division and disasters as this empowers them to “come to our rescue “. BLM and others profit greatly by inflaming fears and animosities. We the people suffer the consequences. Mr Chauvin actually performed the arrest “ by the book” and was, I shouldn’t say it this way but, lynched by an angry mob as a sacrifice. Killing someone “while committing a felony” aka 2nd degree murder, would be the same sentence a gang member would get for killing a 5yo while doing a drive by shooting with an illegal weapon. It’s absolutely a travesty of Justice. 🇺🇸 is not in a good place right now.

[@wescolumbus621]

The more I hear about "cancelations," the more I think of the cancelation by Prof Martin Heidegger of his mentor, Prof Edmund Husserl, under the rule of the National Socialists (nicknamed, Nazis), the more I recommend everybody read Peikoff's "The Cause of Hitler's Germany" AND Douglas Murray's recent "The War on the West," just to realize, despite some circumstantial differences, the great similarity, idiocy and tragic development of Moral disorientation.

[@dawnemile4974]

Correlation does not prove causation but people are determined to either be ignorant or obtuse.

[@stevenlight5006]

Colman keep telling the truth,u will matter.

[@donastreetman5427]

They always leave something out

[@Flashyfinancier]

"Im way more famous than Tony Timpa" - George Floyd

[@markstuber4731]

"Some of them were attacking him [Rittenhouse]"? No all of them were. I'm dissapounted Hughes on this.

[@bbtfan7957]

Everyone he shot was attacking him.

[@JoseVasquez-sp6kc]

at 16:41 I think he meant to say white.

[@jamesprice532]

In 2014 the percentage of how many black Americans in the united states went up to at least 14 percent 💯 then after the defunding of the police the numbers dropped to 12.4 percent and in the last few months the numbers dropped again to 12.2 percent of people in the united being black Americans

[@tensortab8896]

Lol, he thought his company was going to support him. Double lol.

[@themeangene]

Poor guy thinks he's dealing with reasonable Americans instead of leftists

[@JayEs31]

excellent conversation. there is endless manipulation of data in the newspaper and magazines on certain topics. it's all about advancing agendas. Coleman hit me up if you want more info and can walk you through examples published

[@michaelneufeld4515]

What's your response to the fact that black people constitute 12% of the population of the US but make up 34% of those who are unarmed and killed by police, disproportionate even after taking into account statistical factors such as higher prevalence of violent crime among the black population? Or the defunct stop and frisk program in NYC having had statistically clear racial bias in its targeting?

[@JayEs31]

@@michaelneufeld4515 Last year 3 unarmed black people were killed by police in the US. (Blacks in US are approx 42M or 12% of the population) www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/investigations/police-shootings-database/

[@InsaneCarville]

@@michaelneufeld4515 Did you read the part about manipulating statistics?

[@richardlanahan8089]

I can remember a black 'activist' responding to a request for a comment that "they (White people) are eating us (Black people) in Milwaukee" during the period that Jeffrey Dahmer was doing his thing.

[@oraz.]

People make statistical arguments that have no reliability all the time

[@danyfields9075]

He knows he is lying and conflating his own set of facts

[@clarinet_guy2139]

Coleman, I love you, but you have got to insist that your guests use a real microphone. I can’t listen to this.

[@greencraig8570]

A lot of podcasts have this problem. Esp. Jordan Peterson, but with him, both mics sound terrible. It's like someone speaking through a tin can with a string.

[@zxyatiywariii8]

Yes please! 🙏🏽

[@tylerhoward1075]

Coleman buddy I know ur soft spoken but please start speaking up so I don't have to turn it up loud to hear u and then when ur guest speaks it hurts my ears. Enjoyed the conversation though.

[@pat2562]

Yes! Same problem with hearing Coleman.

[@Vulneravariable]

What a talk.

[@pranavpillai7778]

I don't see BLM as inherently incorrect in what they are saying. Police brutality is an issue which should be condemned. But I do not agree with their idea which is that America is an oppressive society.

[@chrismendoza5666]

Ur volume is little low even at full blast

[@qingzhou9983]

One minor criticism. Since police murder is so rare comparing to police shooting innocent people, it is likely not a primary deciding factor in police shooting. Hence this could be one minor factor.

[@Bizagro]

Floyd on fentanyl Tipa not on fentanyl ….big difference in potential causation

[@FedericoGPena]

You are correct, even if you're treading on very precarious social terrain...Good for you; we need guts to fight the nonsense.

[@purdysanchez]

The coroner in the Floyd case reported that he had a lethal dose of drugs in his system. Fact checking sites declared the coroner's findings to be false. It's up to you to decide who is right on this controversy.

[@zxyatiywariii8]

@@purdysanchez There's literally no way to know. Here's why: "Lethal dose" is based on average people; but fentanyl is even more tolerance-inducing than alcohol is. As we all know, there are people who can DIE from the same amount of alcohol which an alcoholic can drink every night. Floyd was a long-term addict to fentanyl and other opioids; so there's no scientific way to know whether he would have survived if Chauvin had done what the firefighter bystander was begging him to do -- _"Please, check his breathing! Check his pulse! I'll do it if you want?!" Can I come over and do it?!_ Protocol in even the Minneapolis police department* is to check a subject's vitals when they cease to move and void their bladder. Chauvin could've done this himself, or one of the other cops could've checked Floyd's pulse while Chauvin remained in place. But scientifically, there's no way to know whether Floyd then could've been resuscitated and survived, or if even his system had been overwhelmed by the amount of fentanyl. *I've lived in Minneapolis, and the St Paul police are much better

[@purdysanchez]

@@zxyatiywariii8, there's no way to know a lot of things, but the coroner said that under any other circumstance the data would be interpreted as death by overdose. Since we're operating in the realm of pure speculation. Maybe the cops would have followed the procedure you've outlined if they weren't surrounded by a hysterical crowd. Standard police procedure is to worry about site security before medical intervention.

[@vajona2495]

This is a class issue not sex, race, sexual orientation. Cop = Corporate owned police

[@Theyungcity23]

5:47 he's doing the exact same thing he claims the news media was doing. He wasn't poised to attack with a knife. They saw him slowly walk over reach into his car. They didn't know what he was doing and they shot him. Now you can say it was justified unjustified or whatever but he's adding all kinds of flavor to it. He's making it sound like the guy brandished a knife and struck a battle pose.

[@MrSunrise-]

Source? A YT video would be great!

[@Theyungcity23]

@@MrSunrise- There are all kinds of videos of the Jacob Blake shooting online. But he clearly wasn't poised to do anything with a knife to them if his back was turned to them.

[@michaelneufeld4515]

Yep this guest clearly has an axe to grind and isn't a reliable source of information.

[@hendrixisgod777]

@@Theyungcity23 yeah, he was just getting ready to butter his toast.

[@hendrixisgod777]

@@michaelneufeld4515 yeah, they sacked him for giving his opinion so I guess he’s a bit salty about it.

[@frankdracman4084]

look up Daniel Shaver and tell me youve ever seen a more vicious or unnecessary cop shooting

[@obiwontrice]

@15:00 I don't understand this logic first he says look at the percentage black representation in violent crimes? Which is actually very misleading because what crimes are consider violent? Rape, Home invasion, Assault, Assault with a deadly weapon, Domestic Violence (most dangerous offense for officer safety) none of those crimes are considered violent? Only murder (the rarest crime about .1% of America crime) and robbery. So shouldnt the police be more cautious or quick to use force on the criminals that the cause the most crimes? There are more white criminals than black ones due to sheer population. Out of the 8 million crimes committed yearly over 6 million are white.

[@davagevorriose8046]

What's a good source that shows the claim that blacks are not shot/killed by people disproportionally? Is it because Zac is claiming against "rates at which police officers are shot" instead of against population? I'm not going to sit here and defend anyone, of either side, but I'd like to see the actual data, you know?

[@JamieJoeJustice]

In terms of interactions with police, black people have far more of them, so are in fact less likely the end up deceased.

[@purdysanchez]

If you look at violent crime data and police interaction numbers, black people are far less likely to be shot by the police.

[@purdysanchez]

KZbin tends to auto-ban external links, but looking up FBI violent crime data by race is a pretty definitive source.

[@TheRancor53]

Roland Fryer is one. Also the WAPO data base on deaths by police shootings. Last I checked there’s a slightly higher number proportionally, but after accounting for the amount of violent crime in an area, 9-15 unarmed African Americans out of 50 or so is not all that huge.

[@purdysanchez]

@@TheRancor53, generally the classification of "unarmed" doesn't even take into account resisting arrest and assaulting the police. So in many studies it is misleading.

[@deal2live]

This was part of the great Cabal!

[@protectionplustv7172]

Coleman jus asked the same question twice, differently tho. Or, that was a repetition?

[@GingerDrums]

Big buildup for one slightly underwhelming correlation.

[@iamyourunbiasedgod2022]

BLM never carried about "black lives" 🤣 It was all a racket -- and an excuse for people to loot, assault and destroy property. That being said, I heard Geroge Floyd's favorite food was baked beans ☝🏻 *OPENS UP A CAN OF BAKED BEANS* Fart Lives Matter!!

[@danyfields9075]

This recording is low

[@cuebj]

Very bad sound settings. Can't listen - not inclusive for people with slightly impaired hearing

[@zxyatiywariii8]

I muted it and watched closed captions. The audio is awful.

[@paulhester489]

Discuss how abortion issue shaped so US women would lose their individual rights. BLM is a Candace Owens Farmer issue.

[@themeangene]

There is no right to an abortion

[@paulhester489]

@@themeangene But there is a Right to life , liberty, and pursuit of happiness. And abortion is a medical procedure that can provide life, liberty,, and happiness .

[@LisaFenton-h7f]

COLEMAN: Your VOLUME is so LOW i CAN'T HEAR MOST OF WHATRYOU'RE SAYING!!!

[@jmac3327]

Hilarious. There is, of course, a solution.

[@bestdjaf7499]

Take away the billions/trillions of the Government programs. The Evil Offshore Corporations don't care about Black LGBTQIA Women. We still live in a predominantly White Christian country. But if you look at the Movies & Commercials, you would never guess it. You remember when we had a bunch of Native Americans in the movies & commercials? Native Americans are still living the awful conditions. It seems nobody cares anymore. So what has happened?!

[@sean640]

Good one J Mac! Can you recommend an author?

[@johnstewart7025]

He wants to compare race of people who kill cops and race of people killed by police. But, I imagine if someone kills a cop, they aren't necessarily killed. They may get away or they may be jailed later. Likewise, if a copy kills someone, that cop isn't necessarily killed. It makes more sense to look at how often each racial group "interacts" with police. And, we know poor people and nonwhties are POLICED more than the rest of us.

[@cm2624]

Police police where the crime is. There's a reason a huge majority of law abiding black citizens want equal or more police

[@Flashyfinancier]

Hey John...do you want cops to police areas with no crimes or areas with crimes?

[@marsmith1907]

​@@cm2624 European Americans have always committed the most crime. Why would white colonists who are on stolen land, justifiably police themselves? Keep playing dumb.

[@Flashyfinancier]

@@DR-yl5sp woke people are usually stupid

[@mikewinter8193]

Maybe ask yourself why it's the race part of this problem you are choosing to engage. Resolution to the violence problem is no closer. It makes you sound disingenuous

[@theresagarcia4892]

Oh, this is bs you tube. Smh. Done.

[@themeangene]

I'm sorry facts offended you

[@luthermckinnon9663]

poor sound quality makes this show unlistenable

[@victorjcolacchio610]

easy you don't have the intellectual abilities to figure things out.

[@lydiaedwards8100]

What facts do you have again?

[@qingzhou9983]

It maybe true statistically. But more important is the human reality. The White is in power of the US government in general, police, court, law-making etc. Hence there is no need for a general society mobilization for a serious problem against White. The affecting person and his/her friends and family-members etc. can use the normal process, especially their votes, to handle it (like Police Brutality). On the other hand, the mistreatment of Minority is build-in Democracy and human nature, especially in the case of Black for historical reason. So extra effort is needed to correct that (so the idea of Affirmative Action). I am especially grateful, as a minority Chinese-American, to all the White People supporting BLM. This is a very honored effort to overcome nature-born self-interest. However, a Black person brave enough to criticize the BLM and a white Scientist standing up for the FACT are also part of the great strength of OUR Society. :)

[@nationalsocialist6590]

For these Marxist practice what you preach.