How Big Can We Get The Mimeoplasm? Commander Tune-Ups #85

[@HanDaimond]

The Mimeoplasm was my very first commander, and yes, my deck had Grave Titan and Acidic Slime, it was a long time ago. I really appreciate the tune-up with this video.

[@NitpickingNerds]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@nosniboR_naI]

The mimioplasm is the only place I’ve ever found I can play the Tarrasq. it’s just somewhat good enough that it makes a deck even for the fact that it is a pity include

[@lysander3262]

"A lion does not concern themselves with the opinions of sheep" -Ajani Goldmane, probably If you want 10 power you deserve to get 10 power. Don't sweat mana cost or efficiency or whatever. It's not like you actually have to draw or pay an appropriate cost for your cards...let Naya decks worry about optimization. Mimeoplasm is about sticking two dumb things together and hitting your opponent upside the head with it.

[@gavingaudet3562]

@@lysander3262 that was Tywin Lannister

[@lysander3262]

"A-B-D. A- Always B- Be D- Dredging" -Jarad, certified graveyard abuser I've had my Mimeoplasm deck since he premiered in the precon, and I agree with many of your cuts and adds. I didn't see an old or new deck list link anywhere, so if any of my advice is redundant then feel free to ignore it. 0. If you can get your hands on a Survival of the Fittest, it is the best card in the deck 1. Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord is a premium win condition since he hits all opponents. Lord of Extinction is an easy kill, and Consuming Aberration and friends will likely kill as well. 2. For the above reason, and also if you're playing things like Mike+Trike, multiple reanimation is excellent. Incarnation Technique is gas. Victimize will be easy to turn on if you run Field of the Dead or the Nerds' mana dorks. 3. Milling your opponents is to be avoided, but some cards are so efficient I recommend running anyway. Mesmeric Orb is fantastic, and while it draws hate sometimes you just jam it turn 2 and by turn 5 you have a plethora of Mimeoplasm targets. I run Basalt Monolith beside it for the occasional arbitrarily large self mill kill with Syr Konrad. 4. World Shaper and/or Splendid Reclamation are your friends. 5. I've found Ghostly Pilferer to be an excellent discard outlet for Dredge cards 6. I'm trying out Criminal Past as a means to facilitate one shots. The advantage being you don't need to have a big creature in your graveyard when you animate your Mimeoplasm 7. I have Araumi in the deck as a means to get 3 more shots from value creatures like Stitcher's Supplier or Druid of Purification. It's a bit jank but when it works it's fun! Plus, Necrotic Ooze likes another activated ability. Here's the full list for inspiration. C+C always welcome, it's by no means perfect and some choices are experimental but backed by experience. The good thing about filling your grave is that you see about 3-4 times as many cards as your opponents per game so you have a lot more freedom to just try stuff out. Have fun with it! www.moxfield.com/decks/tFN738JwyEiDRbHHmZ095g

[@DrewskiTheLegend]

Also been playing Mimeoplasm since release. It has essentially become a multiple turbo combo to the face deck. Most wins are via fast Hermit Druid+Oracle/Lab Man. I also have Devourer/Trisk and Necrotic Ooze for that combo kill, I have some haymakers, my favorites being Jin Gitaxias for dredge synergy+ shut down the opponents and Diluvian primordial for the sheer game ending potential it always seems to have. I think my favorite pet card is Sage of Hours. A huge Lord of Extinction allows you to take 10+ turns, which usually leads to finding one of the other combos. I think it’s well positioned to be higher or lower power level since most of the combos are fairly compact and the tutors and fast mana are easy enough to add and remove as needed without completely gutting the deck. Love how versatile the deck can be. It’s really got a ton of ways to build it and none of them seem to be wrong. Nice list, I see some similarities to my own, but you have some very interesting choices in there!

[@lysander3262]

I haven't pulled the trigger on picking up a Sage of Hours or any other of the +1/+1 dependant cards like Sage...of Fathoms 😄. I'm sure they are fantastic but the Commander dependancy has me cautious. Would definitely be more confident running them alongside maximum looting outlets and cards like Command Beacon.

[@addie30mg62]

I have vorinclex monstrous raider in my mimeoplasm deck. Paired with lord of extinction, I turned him into a 104/104 with trample and haste.

[@teddymason6069]

Just built mimeoplasm after years of him being on my to-do list. Great timing!

[@teddymason6069]

And 5:34

[@thewebscholarzan1650]

Dude same - shouts out to strands of night allowing me to loop cabal coffers

[@lysander3262]

Congratulations, and enjoy seeing four times as many cards per game as your opponents.

[@MagicBlades]

Love to have seen this, I was looking for good combos for my Mimeoplasm to make it even scarier. Right now, cards I am also looking at are Golgari Grave Troll, Fauna Shaman, and Primal Surge. Seeing those creatures that act as Counterspells helps with keeping the permanent count high for Primal Surge!

[@benjaminwilson8807]

Walking Ballista + Consuming Aberration/Lord of Extinction. Personal best was 127/127. Instant gg.

[@kingmric]

Needed this one. Love to see a volrath, shapestealer tune up with all the counters that have been introduced.

[@nzephier]

Of all the IDEAS and STRATEGIES you've guys come across,this was the one I was the most hyped about haha

[@Knightfall8]

It's like the antithesis of my mimeo video lol (where the goal is to play mimeo as a necrotic ooze in the command zone)

[@noneofyourbusiness792]

I actually thought of that idea too… it kinda surprises people because they think of Mimeoplasm a certain way and not knowing that it doesn’t have to have big power to win… you can combo off with the right cards and mimeoplasm is your one body double to make it happen

[@brockknudsen]

My favorite 2 cards to mimeoplasm are Skytherix and putrefax base with a huge butt being the p\t , basically can make him a cruise missile to take out any annoying opponent who is dominating the game. If you have all party agreement to protect it through your attack it is a really effective mix

[@PraetorGix]

Serendipitous timing on this one! I've re sleeved my Mimeoplasm deck that I had since it came in the precon and aside from the obvious updates I was wondering what to put to make it better suited for modern EDH.

[@V3TJasper]

I'd definitely consider Hermit Druid. Kederekt Leviathan is also a huge blowout, especially when you can do it repeatedly via Necromancy or Animate Dead. I turned my old Mimeoplasm into CEDH Tasigur a long time ago, but it was a super fun deck.

[@lysander3262]

The thing about Hermit Druid is that even when played fairly with a large amount of basic lands...he gets you a land per turn!!! Honestly feel like he's great at every power level, even if he draws hate even faster than Dauthi Voidwalker 😄

[@V3TJasper]

@@lysander3262 Yeah I ran 7 basics in my Mimeoplasm and Hermit Druid still felt very strong even without build around infinites. The Nerds' updated list runs 3 basics so the piles would be even larger. Hermit Druid does die without activation pretty often though; maybe people concerned with consistency shouldn't play it. I personally think the gamble is so worth.

[@palisage]

How do you feel about jodah's avenger?

[@Timocracy_]

Moxfield ad at 10:34?

[@trueno717]

My first commander ever! Back in 2011. They were only $29.99 CAD back then. I picked up 2 copies and a ghave precon as well all for under 100$ CAD lol. I’d love to go back in time.

[@inzombiac345]

21:00 And another video doesn't Read Mythos of Brokkos Fully, It lets you put any card from library into your graveyard, so if its a permanent goes it into your hand. So its two spells for one. yes there are better but this is commander (singleton) so more the better.

[@reneangler]

Good thanks

[@blacktiggi66]

Thanks for the B-Day shoutout bois! :D

[@jxhook]

Saw a Mimeoplasm cycling deck on KZbin recently, was pretty cool.

[@ty_does]

Little late for this one boys, but glad to be here

[@erubin100]

How do you guys feel about boardwipes on creatures such as deathbringer regent, kagemaro, or kederekt leviathan? I feel like they'd be right what you're looking for, especially the latter.

[@erubin100]

The only thing I don't love about the dorks is how vulnerable they are. But then again, after a certain point, you might not need them anymore, so it could be worth it for tempo.

[@Dinobot-k2x]

Does blightsteel work in this?

[@Interrobang212]

My experience playing Mimeoplasm has been that you can often alpha strike 1-2 people, but youve drawn so much panic removal and spent so many resources that you end up kingmaking really.

[@SWAT6809]

intro is slick this time, thx for paying attention to time

[@nobodyfromnowwhere7510]

I'm always torn on creature ramp even in creature based decks. A board wipe always comes down early as soon as everyone is dropping commanders, then you're out mana right when you need it to recast your commander. I see the logic, i do, but it still has a clear downside that I feel outweighs the minor upsides. Selvala not withstanding.

[@Eifuh]

The way I see it, the upside of creature ramp is higher than the downside when a board wipe comes around. Llanowar Elves has a lot more synergy with what a green creature based deck wants to do and when it draws you a card off beast whisperer or comes back with something like living death, it’s just that little bit more oil in the cogs of your deck than if it was Nature’s Lore. No problem if you disagree of course, but myself and most people think otherwise for the reasons above

[@lysander3262]

Hard agree. Unless there are a ton of specific cards that care about # of creatures in YOUR graveyard and/or Birthing Pod/Natural Order effects I would always take the 2 mana sorcery trifecta over the 1 mana elf trifecta. Minor consideration to casting a 1 CMC creature with Muldrotha, but she also lets you cast Wild Growth and that doesn't take up the one creature cast per turn. Selvala is of course always an exception. I also run BoP because it actually fixes mana unlike Elves, and occasionally blocks big dumb Flying guys.

[@gregprice4834]

I like creature based ramp that gets land into play and only like 2-4 mana dorks, spring bloom Druid, wood elves, far haven elf and stuff like that feel a bit safer

[@TinyLegs15243]

Blightsteel and any unlockable creature!

[@erubin100]

Why not Yavimaya Dryad? It's basically a second (if slightly worse) wood elves.

[@thork_tv]

I realy like the discard in the nezahal blink because it Sete Up a 10/10 Infekt dragon (If you hava the cards in Hand) even If your grave got wiped away

[@djbisson9819]

That thumbnail thou!

[@markdziamski4859]

Quick question. If I deal combat damage to a player with a clone of my commander does that count toward commander damage? Example. If I have toxrill and 2 copies of toxrill on the battlefield and swing all three at one player and connect. Are they dead to commander damage?

[@leocoelho12]

nope, commander damage is especifically attached to the commander card itself (can't be copied to another permanent)

[@markdziamski4859]

@@leocoelho12 thanks. That’s what I thought

[@BurnByMoonlight]

I bought the Prime Slime secret lair and he’s just been staring at me, begging to be built. Such cool art. And then he shows up again during my 2x2 master draft. The only problem is when I build him he feels way too powerful.

[@wEakling1918]

Try giving yourself a weird restriction, like a companion

[@lysander3262]

Just don't go Ooze Tribal. Those decklists have irreparably soiled our boy's EDHrecs and entirely miss the point of jamming two entirely different things together and bludgeoning your opponents to death with it!!

[@rhysticbuddy61]

I feel like you guys need to implement a rule where you have to keep the deck price close to the same lol. just putting in bomb after bomb

[@shanemackay493]

Haha, right? I've been updating this deck through my collection (managed to get 2 boxes of mystery boosters when they released, so that helped), but nowhere near the level of this. Checked the price tag and this deck is $1000. Are people actually dropping that much on their edh decks regularly?

[@erubin100]

@@shanemackay493 you'd be surprised how much people are willing to spend for their hobbies...

[@shanemackay493]

@@erubin100 Oh, I know... I'm slowly falling into the rabbit hole 😜 keeping myself to

[@catit6599]

We need “damn were good” merch

[@Chonus]

I wonder why no one ever talks about, Multani, maro-sorcerer. It could easily add 20 power if everyone has 5 cards in hand when you cast mimeo.

[@catit6599]

18:39

[@mateotrimboli1232]

Apocalypse demon is a second lord of extinction in self mill decks. It is even better in my opinion, because like Beezy said you don't want to mill your oponents. I also think Old-sticky Fingers is better than the new goyf, more versatile, can mill more and still be a huge creature for two mana or to copy with Mimeoplasm. Even splinterfright (having trample) or the original Lurghoyf or mortivore (counting creatures in all graveyards) have better upsides than Urborg Lurghoyf

[@catit6599]

Think old stickfingers could be good especially if your already playing urborg llurgorf

[@lysander3262]

A double kicked Urborg Lhurgoyf should get ~2-3 relevant cards in a 45 creature deck with some non creature Flashback/Dredge/Encore/etc. For the same cost Stickfingers gets a guaranteed 2 cards. I'd say he's worth trying out as a means to quickly re-establish reanimation targets after a graveyard exile. Not as good early in the game where you are happier to flip over as much as possible. Most importantly if you think he's a cool card, play it. You see so many cards in Mimeoplasm that individual optimization doesn't matter all that much. Cheers.

[@thewebscholarzan1650]

I feel as if underrealm lich and Sylvan library should be mentioned

[@toddlez123]

12:38 Mox

[@frankmagyar4212]

9:26

[@frankmagyar4212]

OMG I GOT IT! Legit try!

[@JonReid01]

Impossible!

[@finks1]

13:31

[@jasonromines7528]

I thought Joe would be enjoying the game.

[@JohnnyYeTaecanUktena]

I don't know about a no reserved list restriction as there are plenty of reserve list cards that are just plain bad and or generic monsters such as Autumn Willow which is a 6 drop green legendary avatar creature 4/4 that reads "Shroud Green: Until end of turn, Autumn Willow can be the target of spells and abilities controlled by target player as though it didn't have shroud." Yeah there is no way anyone could tell me that is not bad you pay to remove shroud for 1 person though it is not as bad as others as you can target yourself with the ability but it is essentially just hexproof with a tax of 1 Though Wood Elemental is one of the more funny terrible cards on the reserved list that costs about $30 USD just because it is on the reserved list even though it is a bad card. And before you say Elfball can abuse it well Elfball can abuse anything as it's nature is ramp and to have a ton of mana dorks where you are not worried on giving all of your forests to Wood Elemental for power toughness.

[@DreammasterFTW]

dang if i had 1000 dollars this would be nice!

[@NitpickingNerds]

It is a really cool list but very pricey

[@DreammasterFTW]

@@NitpickingNerds is there any recommendations on how to make this a very winnable deck against all types with the cards there but on a budget of only 500? 700 at most? maybe trade out some of the lands?

[@wakefieldwade4019]

Feedback..I don't like the new patreon credits

[@griff_mtg6311]

FirSt!!!

[@catit6599]

Nooooo

[@ArtEPersonal]

17:10

[@ANeonGenesis]

21:13