How Bits Work - Gags, Snaffles & Their Actions

[@linepilegaard9871]

I wish this video was longer with more information from this guy. he is really great at explaining

[@thecompletehorse8084]

...look for Bomber's bits in New Zealand ;)

[@kimseykittycat8437]

Two guys with expertise having a gentleman conversation. I love it.

[@vivientakacs5599]

Finally someone who knows how much horses are hurting. Thank you so much for the video

[@jakeh3144]

I like the dude with the blue shirt. He seems really passionate about his work. Seems like an interesting fellow.

[@fbastaki]

yes because he's selling the stuff. he should know his stuff and be passionate about what he's selling.

[@sseeback6754]

I have been wondering how bits sit in a horse's mouth. The skull demonstration really helped with that visualization. Thanks so much. Great teaching video.

[@response2u]

I came here after reading an archeology book discussing the domestication of horses and how using bits affected their teeth abrasion. Interesting stuff.

[@redxiii1810]

What book did you read? I’m always trying to find more horse hippology to dive into

[@faibishclassical]

The most important think is to Train the horse correctly with light hands, and not to pool the horse in the mouth, and not to shut the mouth tight with the nose bend or any peas of leather. we are not aloud to round the horse from forward back, but from back forward with gymnastic exercises and very light hands, (It is very important to give the time the horse needs to develop his body correctly) the Lunging Work must be done Correctly until the horse is Dancing around us, and not Running! In the moment we rely on the Bit we will Fail!!!.

[@jth1195]

I am not sure I agree with everything you said , but I am so glad that someone is studying this subject. I could not be satisfied with everything I tried so I hardly ever use a bit. If I do it is a straight bit or a mullen mouth .

[@claireday9990]

Fabulous video. I have a hirse with a sensitive mouth but like to ride a little downhill. But he is still strong. I now know the roller bomber will bring him up and round. Thank you ❤️

[@marriedaprince1]

wow, in all my horse years, I have never heard that/been taught that! so helpful!

[@janedmunds4218]

Same here. And so important!

[@brittanymckissack5879]

Just bought a rising 2yo Clydie 25% TB 75% and I will send him away to be trained but this was so good to teach me more about what I should be adapting myself to looking at and finding what fits his mouth best.

[@retro2546]

2 year old is too young to be ridden, wait to the 4,5 or 5 years to break it, the horses who are breaken later will have less back problems and will be able to healthy work to the older age.

[@sophiasframeli]

Also, sending horses away to get trainer is usually a very bad idea. Here's an example (which happens soo often): you send your horse to be trained. The trainer trains the horse using their methods, which you don't know and won't use. So this horse learns to respond to certain behaviors and cues you might think are too aggressive or you just won't be aware of. So when this horse gets back to you and you try riding it and he turns out being disrespectful or whatever it's because you aren't using the same methods as the trainer. So the trainer says "he needs more training" and you give them more money for the same thing to happen again. You get my point? It's a waste of money and that horse will end up confused and misunderstood. If the horse has to be trained by a trainer, then go watch and learn what the trainer is teaching the horse. Hope this was helpful, and no hate intended.

[@rutvikbalvally7682]

Thank you. Was reading about horses and chariots and you got me here

[@claudiahoran7460]

I absolutely love this video; it's helped me so much to figure out new bit ideas for my mare and what is going to make her happier!

[@vistrode9604]

There is a very key factor in this and it’s the rider’s hands! Just like anything else it’s who and how it’s being used! Also a bit has different effects on the mouth depending where it is located and if there has been prior damage!

[@magstergirl]

Don't understand why Bomber said with single break snaffle, the tongue pressure makes the horse throw it's head up in the air but with the 3 piece bit, he said 80% or more horses will LOWER their heads due to the increased tongue pressure?

[@demonrouge3338]

Great video thank you for sharing your information gentleman.

[@Genxtravels1979]

This was very informative, thank you!!!

[@jessicagraf230]

Drop nose bands should be bloody outlawed!

[@waggybaggy1466]

the whole use of bits should be forbidden. its like a mini torture device to get the horse under your control.

[@levireynolds716]

Waggy Baggy both of these comments show the ignorance that surrounds horses

[@levireynolds716]

popcorns house yeah, because I understand how they actually work.

[@nagoelkhouly3045]

@@waggybaggy1466 True!!!!

[@erikatowle8695]

I agree!

[@kimseykittycat8437]

This video is great!

[@AnthonyVierra]

Awesome video, thank you

[@ForeverBrooklyn]

This is slightly off topic, but you don’t need a bit to have control. About a year ago I rode with a bit but then transferred to bitless. Whenever I transitioned, I never noticed a change in the amount of control I had. I understand that riding bitless can be just as bad, but isn’t it better than shoving a piece of metal in your horse’s mouth? This is just my honest opinion, I have nothing against bits as long as they are being used correctly by a proper rider.

[@ButterflyonStone]

Same, I stopped using bits and never looked back.

[@spyinsecret0075]

Can you explain the disadvantages of going bitless?

[@j.elizabeth4621]

Bits can assist with a horse holding its body in a more corrective, precise way. Some bit less bridles cause nerve damage around the nose and face.

[@mellohistar]

@@spyinsecret0075there are generally no disadvantages. every horse can learn bitless. however, some mechanical hackamores are harsh on the horse’s nose (if you constantly have the reins shortened)

[@teeniequeenie8369]

I suggest looking up James French and his trust technique

[@JavierBonillaC]

Why bar pressure lifts and toungue pressure drops? Why not the other way around? Explain it to me as if I were a 6 year old please. Thank you.

[@giradharsingh4610]

thank you sir

[@freakdecoy6056]

I really would like to hear that mans opinion on rubber dogbone bits (or mullon mouthes?)

[@ohwhatelse]

I wonder about the solid type bits. it seems they would hold the tongue down. ? we had both when I was a kid. I usually chose to use the solid piece one because I always felt that a split bit, somewhat like you show, would pinch a horses tongue. ? I've seen horses continually chomp at the bit. Why?

[@victoriahookridddle1174]

ohwhatelse my horses do that just for fun when riding they just like to it’s like a toy for them so I put D rings on the bridle and it stops it

[@vannastingley9419]

I use a French link snaffle that has a rolling ball in the middle Bc he likes to roll it and it helps control his anxiety

[@greatest_shen]

I always think about that . one time I was putting a bit on and it pinch the horses lip and would come off 😳😳

[@vistrode9604]

The most important thing is the need to know your horse’s mouth ! Some horses have sensitive tongues and bar of steel! Some horses have sensitivity in their bars and a tongue that is very sensitive! Pay attention to his comments about your desired level of the horses!!?!? The success is in the details!

[@minnawirzenius-karjalainen661]

Can you tell me why part of the three piece bitses has their midlle piece so, that the joint is flat and the others has their joint stand? What is the meaning of that and which one is better?

[@shevhunter986]

My horse is lovely in a myler but will bolt sometimes so I need brakes. What do you recommend please

[@shevhunter986]

popcorns house harsh words and not very supportive - I’ve been doing schooling work to get the control back and have a mild European bit which is all going well

[@megancav11]

elevator bit

[@SilverPonyKat]

I always like to revert back to long line work and fix the horse first. Another thing to consider is Why is the horse bokting? Look at everything you can for each situation- what was happening before and during the bolt that may have caused it. Sometimes they are simply looking for a release in the pressure from us and our cues and each horse is different.

[@tw_neo708]

@@megancav11elevator bits only make a confused horse and put a bandaid over shitty training. I feel bad for your horse.

[@amandabrown7251]

Hi there, I am wanting to know what bit is best for a strong 17hh horse with a fleshy tongue and cheeks. I am currently using a 3 ring waterford but he just runs off with me. Could you please give me an idea of what is best to use for brakes and jumping with no nutcracker actions.

[@tw_neo708]

I generally stay away from waterfords because they’re very pinchy. Id try something like a lozenge, in addition to groundwork and training. I usually teach a horse to stop well by backing them hard whenever they don’t stop when I ask. I train with pressure-release so that might not be your ideal method, but it works well for my western horses. Always remember a bit will never fix training issues, and the only time I ever change a bit from a single joint curved cannon snaffle is when a horse needs to go into a shank for whatever reason, or when a horse is having behavioral issues from a bit.

[@silkybluesblackdress7769]

All bits cause extreme pain if used it all thats how they work just like spurs. Mechanical hackamores are just as abusive. Neck rein bitless w/ loose reins & always softly/gently asked before you tell.

[@saramuresan9305]

Good job spread the word!

[@aine7529]

train your horse on a snaffle and maybe modify a bit after that, never start your horse on a harsh bit

[@aine7529]

popcorns house bitless bridles are really harsh on the veins and bones in the horses face. Loads of people think “oh ya bitless bridles are much better to the horse than a bit” even though bits like snaffles aren’t even harsh in the first place. Look at a horses skull and you will see how thin and weak the bone in their nose is and hackamores can be extremely painful to the horse. Obviously all horses are different and if your horse has teeth problems or issues with their mouth then i suppose bit less is the way to go. I just hope people do their research before buying stupid things

[@SuperSapphireStone]

@@aine7529 Its only a problem with MACANICAL Hackamores. Traditional hackamores and simple rope bridles and bitless leathered bridles are not that harsh at all. I am so sick of people putting mechanical hackamores and simple bitless rope bridles in the same category.

[@aine7529]

@@SuperSapphireStone normal hacksamores are still the same do you understand what i’m saying their nose is extremely sensitive. with a snaffle, the pressure points are the bars but when you use a hackamores it’s literally their nose. Look up a picture of a horse skull and you will see what i’m talking about when i say the hackamores puts pressure on a very sensitive spot. Also horses have more nerve ending than humans therefore they feel more pain believe it or not and their skin is thinner. Their designed to be sold to stupid people who for some reason think a gentle bit is abuse (don’t get me wrong there are harsh bits that are abuse). The only people that use them are 40 year old vegans who “adopted” a horse because they think they’re saving it. They know nothing but think they are educated

[@khalidomar2266]

Never use a harsh bit or a bit at all!

[@erikatowle8695]

Or ride in a halter!

[@brittneytrusz2022]

Whats hes site to buy the right bit

[@emmabrungardt1620]

what brand of bit are those

[@littlefrog8389]

bomber bits I think

[@feliciachitwood9400]

I wanna know that too

[@aztib]

but how about mules? their mouths are different from horses

[@TheAtoniobarbosa]

TEM CANAL DE VENDA

[@gilmore25967]

What brand are the bits behind you in this video?

[@nellykramer5451]

Sarah Gilmore Bombers i think :)

[@troikamvs01]

Trust Bits

[@josephinem4484]

Bombers

[@miricllz]

what bit would be best just for a trail horse (buckskin quarter horse)

[@hannahr6744]

It all depends on your horse. I would ask a trainer or vet

[@miricllz]

@@hannahr6744 👍🏼

[@rosadt631]

Great information. Do you sell bits on line? I have a mustang that has a hard time responding to "stop" she fights her bit until she bleeds from her mouth. Help! Suggestions?

[@eliebelmont8417]

rosa dt I've got a mustang mare who had a similar problem. Best thing to do is not rely on the bit, that way their mouths dont get torn up. Start from the ground and use the command "whoa" before you stop her, then make her stop and back up, stop and pet on her for a few minutes. This teaches her that stopping means she gets to rest and get pets, eventually she'll connect "whoa" with good things. Then when you're riding, sit heavy and use the command, if that fails then you pick up on the bit. If she takes off with you, (like mine did at times) try a one rein stop, it stops them, and the circles calm them down so they can re-focus. The more you pull and tug the harder her mouth will get, and the more she'll lean into pressure. Using phases of pressure helps a horse better understand what you're asking. She may also not be comfortable in her bit, maybe try a hackamore or something you think will fit her mouth better. Lots of mustangs have low palletes, you might try something with a third joint.. Best of luck to you! Mustangs are fun ;)

[@gerrycoleman7290]

It is not a Mustang issue. It is you. Fix yourself, you will fix the Mustang.

[@silverkitty2503]

You can't tell if a bit will fit that way..you need to measure and fit a bit ...you need to see where it's fitting on the bars etc so no you cant buy a bit online horses have diff shaped mouths ..it's not just size and measuring you have have two peeps with same sized feet but can't wear the same shoes ..

[@elaineraynor88]

Try working with your horse without a bit, check it out, it works. My horse has been bit less for many years. I worked with him in a corral or round pen did the one rein stop all bit less. Research "Think like a horse" & go from there. Good luck. Your horse will love you for it.

[@freddyaltina2737]

rosa dt Are her teeth floated & UTD? I’m not an expert, so I’d have a trainer and/or bit fitter come out & try to help you. You could try bitless & see if she still fights the “stop” the same way? Best thing I can think of is using your other cues to stop her. My younger horse does not stop well if I just pull on the reins. I have to lean back, sit deep, and close my legs. (Meaning my thighs, not my legs near the girth) My older horse stops best with a verbal cue of “whoa” & a small half halt. That’s all I can think of! But like I said, I’m not an expert! This is all just my opinion & what I can think of. I’m just a girl on the Internet with a couple of horses. Really best to seek a professional!

[@tamiboelter5491]

After 50 years in the industry, why have I never been aware of the pain I've been causing? Shame on me

[@kjphorsegirl5218]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/kIfNqpSHiqtpo6M This lady gives more accurate details to bits and how they work. These guys are pushing down on the bits as if leading the horse or if it had a martingale on. The nutcracker action wasn't exactly correct, although it does happen on certain bits. You need to test a bit as if you were riding the horse, not leading it or using draw reins. Just plain normal hand positions.

[@sherrymesser9282]

Is it true that a double ring bit when pulled back by a riders hand cause pain to the horses mouth. Which in turn teaches the horse how to be trained, to arch his neck while dancing!

[@Nagendharari]

👍

[@erikatowle8695]

Looks like a torture store for horses😵🥺, good god💔

[@gjorski9714]

Can I come intern for you and learn more?

[@TheBusSurfer]

Pain

[@3er_vigilante882]

All but one of those are not just a snaffle. Theyre elevator bits… why are you showing those? Elevator bits are very rarely used and should only be used on a very specific type of horse…

[@tw_neo708]

Tbh they shouldn’t even be used. They’re Gags, and nasty ones at that. Just a bad band aid for shitty training imo

[@Mat-ilda]

Poor horses has to take so much abuse and bullshit from stupid humans

[@okaminess]

I have no idea what's good and what's not.

[@madelinefreeman3437]

EXACTLY I DONT UNDERSTAND CAUSE EVERYONE KEEPS SAYING DIFFERENT THINGS

[@SephirothWaifu]

Amazing bits are certainly not needed. Thays where there are hackamores and bosals. Pain compliance not matter the bit. They are a chest. I'm sure since dogs are so WORSHIPPED over every other living being, if people used bits instead of body and head halters on dogs, they would scream : abuse. ( and only pretending that the dogs are missing teeth, where the bits lay on their sensitive gums.

[@mluvanimalslaxgirl59]

Who ever was working the camera didn’t know what they were doing and made watching so annoying.

[@dimensionexo.]

If I had a horse,i would use a harness only.

[@silkybluesblackdress7769]

*Bits hurt* People put the bits so far up in the corners of the mouth to cause pain and they put nosebands down because the bit is too thick in the horse can't close its mouth which causes pain and you haven't even touched the rains yet and then people Yank on the reins or if they touch them at all its just a bit causes so much severe pain

[@lillycorrell4838]

Not quite...your describing someone that doesn’t know what there doing. Bit less can be used in the same abusive manner as you just described...

[@silkybluesblackdress7769]

@@lillycorrell4838 mechanical hackamores, whips, bits, spurs, tiedowns, are all abuse because they all cause pain no matter how used if used at all they cause pain period

[@lillycorrell4838]

silkybluesblackdress How does a bit cause pain when being used kindly?

[@lillycorrell4838]

Why should you ride a horse in then?? I don’t understand your logic?

[@silkybluesblackdress7769]

@@lillycorrell4838 Not a torcher device if you only had the option of riding but putting the horse in pain while doing so than you shouldn't ride. A halter or padded halter would be best use light legs cues for asking 1st than demand w/ legs & if legs fail go to loose neck reining the goal is to not even have to touch the halter ever ofcorse or it should be for everyone. If a horse is spooked or disrespectful they still wont forget training & pain is not training if your ooosing control adding pain to the situation will make you loose control of the horse all togther & a horse thats trained well in bitless lessons in any situation but you can put the worst most painful shank & other torcher devices on a horse & they still will push threw the pain to get away from it.

[@stufystuf1444]

They are taking advantage of the fact that a horse is a prey animal :(

[@KSJen]

Less is more! Just hearing the metal clanging makes my teeth ache..

[@fatboy326]

Seems so barbaric. Sounds aw resist having a bar in your mouth.

[@skylarbalch9139]

All bits are bad im my opinion but he doesnt a great job explaining them