How BPC 157 might help relieve knee pain

[@DrDavidGeier]

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[@valerie.mccaffrey]

stacking bpc 157 & tb 500 for pretty serious hoffa pad inflammation that put me out of work and gym for almost 4 months now. 11 days in and hopeful, ditched my crutches and walking and doing PT without flare-ups. Sharing for others who suffer from this little known but brutal knee injury

[@jrock91six]

How’s it going now?

[@valerie.mccaffrey]

@@jrock91six slowly getting there. Continuing PT and resting. I have a hereditary cancer risk so I can't take angiogenics for too long. Just on ghk-cu now for general anti inflammation and other non injury benefits. Still not able to work

[@valerie.mccaffrey]

@@Nikolai_117 maybe the Wolverine stack helped me for a month, but I guess the impingement is stuck in a vicious cycle because I relapsed. I believe the peptides can't work unless you remove the cause of relapse. This could be activity, biomechanics, wrong PT, or in my case, enlargement of the fat pad. IF you sufficiently remove these, then sure, the peptides can accelerate healing, but they weren't a miracle for me. 4 days ago I did some wall sits and I'm still flared up because of it. That's how severe my inflammation is. Cortisone failed me, peptides failed me, PT failed me....I've consulted with one ortho surgeon who dismissed my pain, meeting another soon. I can't extend my leg without sharp pain which is a clear sign of Hoffitis. The next surgeon I meet has 30 years experience and looks at knees all day. If nothing else, he'll be able to give valuable information. Don't forget that the arthroscopy is exploratory and they can discover other issues to clean up on the fly. What if you have plica syndrome, for example? I think you should reconsider it and find the right surgeon or get more eyes on your MRI and more information. Keep firing and hiring doctors and PTs until you get well. And the peptides fall into a "can't hurt, might help" category

[@valerie.mccaffrey]

@@jrock91six see other comment in this thread right below

[@valerie.mccaffrey]

@@Nikolai_117 the Wolverine stack maybe helped me for a month but because I'm stuck in a vicious cycle, something must be causing my impingement/inflammation to continue because I relapsed hard. I'll get a few good days strung together then I'll flare up again. Something biomechanically, incorrect PT, too much activity, or simple enlargement of the fat pad (impingement --> inflammation and enlarging --> further impingement, etc.) will get some people stuck regardless of peptide protocol. Peptides probably accelerate healing, but they weren't a miracle for me, and the more chronic the injury the less effective they'll probably be. Go ahead and try them because they won't hurt, and might help, but I'd recommend cortisone intra-articularly to shrink the fat pad immediately given how bad your symptoms are. It's pretty low risk unless you also have significant cartilage loss. I understand the surgery concerns, and I'm in the same situation. Surgery was the last resort but I have tried EVERYTHING. The first surgeon I met dismissed me entirely, and I'm meeting another one soon. This one has 30 years experience and looks at knees all day so if nothing else he can give valuable information. I think I want the arthroscopy because it's also diagnostical. They can discover things in addition to cleaning up the pinched portion of your fat pad, for example maybe Plica Syndrome, or something else during the scope. Maybe you need to keep firing and hiring doctors until you find the right person. What did your MRI show?

[@moseshenderson4355]

I have neck fusion. But still fell a little nerves shorting the bottle of my feet.only when I been down my head.but sometimes only when I feel it

[@mach1sports]

Would oral work for knee joint pain as well ?!

[@DrDavidGeier]

I wouldn't expect it to work as well as when injected into the knee by an orthopedic surgeon or physician.

[@CosmicAcrobat]

I have patella pain. Should i pinch my kneecap skin and inject the bpc there? How do i avoid hitting a nerve?

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[@polishfreshprince86]

Hi, I have a problem with knee pain for 9 months. The pain appeared after overloading the knee joints in the gym (squats with a barbell and lunges with dumbbells). After an ultrasound examination, cartilage tissue loss was found in the knees. I haven't exercised my legs for 9 months, but the pain still bothers me when, for example, I walk up/down the stairs. I am considering using BPC 157, but I will not perform knee injections myself. However, having this done by a doctor will be problematic and expensive. Do you think that subcutaneous injections in the knee area can have a beneficial effect? If they are to be done subcutaneously, should they just be done in the abdomen? Thank you in advance for your answer.

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[@zlDynamic]

Did you take it brother?

[@abz7881]

What about injecting intramuscular through the knee will that be better than sub q? And do you have any examples of how to inject, e.g mabye another vid of other substances injected via the same delivery into the knee

[@DrDavidGeier]

I'm not aware of any studies that show intramuscular works better than subcutaneous injections. For pain inside a joint, the only human study involved a physician injecting it into the joint (the knee in that study).