I found it gets crazier when you put them into 2 archer groups standing far on each flank as the AI tend to only face 1 group and gets shot full of arrows from the side or back
@LyonExodus2 жыл бұрын
YEP. always split them up. if you got infantry place them in the middle, 50m away from the archers in a very tight shield wall and it's done
@efedemirbala32442 жыл бұрын
I split them in 4 groups that way they can shoot from all sides
@farn1991 Жыл бұрын
@@efedemirbala3244 2 of them behind your shield wall line, another two flanking. This works with even Empire puny archer.
@Jwsponky Жыл бұрын
Hmm, may have to try this, I admit I've been keeping them in one large group with my character in command for the skill perks... or when they say 'x to every troop in your formation' do they mean every troop in your employ?
@ferg4486 Жыл бұрын
@@efedemirbala3244 why not use circle formation instead?
@shurrab9632 жыл бұрын
I won a battle of 251 against 600+ because of the Fian Champion, thanks to your video
@LyonExodus2 жыл бұрын
Welcome to the Dark side of the Fian Champion. Caladog is proud of you.
@DestroyerOfOgis Жыл бұрын
Genociding the Vlandians?
@DestroyerOfOgis Жыл бұрын
@@Appathetic_Substance_Abuse Best archers and worst cavalry army
@HorribleLobstrosity2 жыл бұрын
I think they're especially insane on any desert map -- dividing ~50 fians into two groups on different levels of the cliffs that show up, they were basically what let me win a 140 v 500 fight against Aserai
@krekodaktil2082 жыл бұрын
Even recruitability isn't a problem, many villages are willing to give 5-8 highborn recruits/ warriors etc. without any relations.
@LyonExodus2 жыл бұрын
Yes. it hasn't really been one since 1.5.10. i think. But battania is a very small part of the map. So if you fight far away from it, it can be difficult to go back and recruit a few. but it was just to give them something in the cons, it's not really a weakness since they kinda don't die anyway
@seculartemplar5407 Жыл бұрын
That can easily be remedied with roguery 150 and Leadership 150. Converting Forest bandits into Fian Champions and having 150 roguery guarantees you forest bandits automatically join you. I did a video on it
@LyonExodus2 жыл бұрын
How Busted is the Fian from 0 to 10? New video should be up for tomorrow. I plan to finish Battania this week and maybe give you guys a couple of bonus videos too. Then it's time to cover a new faction or Unit type. comment below if there is anything specific you want to see
@coreyskii44012 жыл бұрын
Based
@williammarshal4043 Жыл бұрын
is fian champion busted ? no its just an easy F1 F3 and take a cofee.
@user-jt6rh8xy6n Жыл бұрын
I’ve had 2 fian champions since the beginning of my play though and somehow they are still alive…. I usually send them with my brother companion on a quest and they have neither failed or died.
@LyonExodus Жыл бұрын
That sounds about right lol
@matiasmattera66502 жыл бұрын
I mean, is it broken if they are the only good unit the Battanians had? Like, if you take those guys aways from Battania what have they left? Mediocre infantry, no other range unit and even worse cavalry.
@MathiasCordeiroFabro3 ай бұрын
The other battanian troops suck so the Fian Champion can shine, and tbh i respect that
@ColeBresnehenАй бұрын
Infantry is good when used as skirmishers rather than front liners
@baheditsTr4 күн бұрын
battania infantry is not bad
@LegionaryOfRome2 жыл бұрын
Now mix those with the khan's guards and...
@dand7763 Жыл бұрын
STORM OF ARROWS !!!
@savagegtalks59122 жыл бұрын
good stuff!
@HistoricalWeaponsАй бұрын
Just edit the xml file so it has less melee skill and it’s balanced
@rathfoks5051 Жыл бұрын
Lets be honest, battania needs them to be this broken
@barbarossa9591 Жыл бұрын
Why
@rathfoks5051 Жыл бұрын
@@barbarossa9591 Most of their army comp is severely underwhelming
@zyfryth Жыл бұрын
@@barbarossa9591 also batania starts surrounded by other nations... And to be honest the AI lords will barely have fian champions in their army, if at all
@benpeters9851 Жыл бұрын
Battania is dope is you know how to use them
@vgalis2 жыл бұрын
I think someone else did a test of the fians vs. legionaries and the Fians only had a K/D ratio of around .5. But it was also a pure melee test.
@LyonExodus2 жыл бұрын
from my series of tests they had 1.12 Vs Legionaries. very good, but the Legionaries also lost some performance with the blunt DMG tweaks and the increase protection from armor.
@gamefreak173 Жыл бұрын
khan guard are still better last time i checked but aside from that yea fian i feel are more enjoyable
@unpopularopinionedpariah61029 ай бұрын
Do you just f1+f3 with mass fians?
@imswanronson3558 Жыл бұрын
I’ve been using 100 fian champs on my run recently but I hit a wall in the form of 40 imperial cataphracts. My men can’t thin their numbers enough before the impact. I went from no loses in any battle to losing half my men
@LyonExodus Жыл бұрын
Keep your boys compact and together against cav charges. It generally works with most units that don't wield spears.
@imswanronson3558 Жыл бұрын
@@LyonExodus Yeah I tried making a long line and a smaller loose one for more arrows flying out but I noticed that if I kept them close the cav would get more hits in than if I spread out. I’ll make a tight rectangle then lower the difficulty and see how that goes
@harrysalt5277 Жыл бұрын
The goats
@Saladon892 жыл бұрын
Theyre the best at archery and not bad as infantry
@DestroyerOfOgis Жыл бұрын
Exact opposite. Their archery sucks against shield infantry but their archery needs a buff and their OP infantry needs a nerf.
@Saladon89 Жыл бұрын
@@DestroyerOfOgis They actually got nerfed, or at least the Ai became smarter, because 80+ of fian champions use to be able to destroy an army of 200+, with of course infantry units forming a shield wall. In the current update, the enemy infantry is smarter, and use their shields, but still the Fian archers still kill most of the enemy units and because of that, they are very easy and quick to upgrade.
@DestroyerOfOgis Жыл бұрын
@@Saladon89 At this point, they're basically the Fian Infantry lmao.
@Hyperfoxeye Жыл бұрын
@@Saladon89thats why you attack from several fronts. Two archer groups on either flank of the infantry , preferably further spread out lets them get past the sheild walls.
@adf286 Жыл бұрын
I’m about to make an army of 100 fian champs and 100 khans guards
@kaloyanradkov89622 жыл бұрын
How can the God of all units be busted......
@LyonExodus2 жыл бұрын
it's "busted" in a good way. in the sense that it's borderline game breaking