How California Almost Split In Two (And If It Had Happened)

[@AlternateHistoryHub]

Crazy a new video. Officially settled into the new place. So my schedule is gonna pick up more. Getting back into the swing of things.

[@KazualBopthKatze]

Noice one.

[@aratusingtheinternet]

Ok

[@GmodPlusWoW]

I was wondering, "it's been a while, hasn't it?". Grats on the move, Cody. Can't wait to see "How Texas Almost Got Split In Two (And If It Had Happened)".

[@salilbhatnagar]

Ay

[@tzaristmapping6844]

ah cool, how's your fan-contest thing coming along?

[@trygveplaustrum4634]

The concept for the State of Jefferson was also sent to Washington! *...In early December 1941.* *Gosh, California separatist movements either have the best timing or the absolute worst timing!*

[@MatanVil]

*Look at the current state of America and the world* yikes

[@anne.andromeda]

Well, if north California will send proposal to split up in 21st century, we know it's time to prepare for war

[@daltonmiller5590]

@@anne.andromeda oh god. It'll be like a prophecy. Now the questions remains. Will the war be against China, Russia, or both?

[@Voron_Aggrav]

@@daltonmiller5590 or the battle for LA

[@macaroon_nuggets8008]

@@daltonmiller5590 Russia and China have a tenuous alliance, so possiblely both.

[@Koala1203]

I think they should've named Southern California as State of San Andreas.

[@goldenrepublic6848]

It would make sense since the San Andreas fault line runs through Southern California

[@willywonka3050]

ALL WE HAD TO DO WAS RENAME THE DAMN STATE, CJ

[@johndelacruz7274]

Ah shit, here we go again

[@johnrandolph1989]

Lamar: "Hey what's up can a loc come up in your crib?" Franklin: "Man fuck you I'll see you at work." Lamar: "Don't make me split from the state fool."

[@jacob4920]

The San Andreas applies to both sides of Cali. San Francisco has been historically pummeled just as hard as LA with Earthquakes, probably more so, really. And the San Andreas faultline terminates in San Francisco Bay. Along with about 13 or 14 other minor faultlines that nobody talks about. California, in totality, ought to change its' name to "The United SHAKES of America," because they are the "Capital of Earthquakes" in the Western Hemisphere.

[@TheFunniBaconMan]

In an alternate timeline: "Where you from?" "Los Angeles, Colorado."

[@Joselimineitor]

The rest of the conversation would be: -Oh cool, i would love to visit Colorado, especially San Diego and L.A. -Yeah, you should go, and where are you from? -Denver, Jefferson

[@wojak-sensei6424]

Me in the real world: *confused screaming*

[@itsblitz4437]

Not South Park?

[@itsblitz4437]

@@dio2702 they should make a Alternate timeline where Jefferson should be a state.

[@overlookers]

"soo..where you from?" "Oklahuma, TX"

[@ToxinWolffe]

This is the most he has talked about Colorado, and it isn't even about the REAL Colorado.

[@grahamturner2640]

I wonder what OTL Colorado would be called in this timeline, if it exists at all.

[@choobs8511]

@@grahamturner2640 Either we get another President state like Lincoln or Jefferson OR the horror of LONG Kansas.

[@masonvanderford6717]

@@grahamturner2640 I had a similar thought, so I went to Google, and found an alternate map with 63 states. On this map, our world’s Colorado was named Montana. Montana was called Yellowstone.

[@ImGoingToLickYou]

@@grahamturner2640 yum

[@duckgoesquack4514]

Fun fact where I live in California, my town was called Nevada. When the state of Nevada became a thing. They changed the name to Nevada city.

[@Kastor774]

Is this similar to Kansas City, Missouri? Not American btw

[@bakedpretzels1378]

Hey I'm from grass valley and I had no idea nevada city was once just nevada! Makes sense considering we're in nevada county

[@ToyotaCamrySEv]

Is that in Nevada County, CA?

[@nothankyou705]

Lucky, you get to live in Nevada City

[@duckgoesquack4514]

@@bakedpretzels1378 just looked up nevada city on KZbin, and found this video. fascinating to see our history.

[@jr637-1]

Therapist: Don't worry. Long Kansas isn't real. It can't hurt you. Long Kansas: (As a Kansan, Long Kansas just looks weird.)

[@Lloyd_lyle]

I’m Kansan too, and I agree.

[@nickstone1167]

As a Kansan, I'd like to leave my state at the current border, not further away. The drive to CO and beyond now is plenty far and long (heh) as is.

[@americansmark]

What do you call a Kansan with multiple personalities? An Arkansan.

[@OptimisticSturmmann142]

L O N G E R Chile.

[@jeffhahsusjejsdjejsksksmed2130]

Kanansas

[@roqxwalker3896]

The Colorado we know is probably called “Jefferson” in the timeline, as it almost was called that when being made into a territory

[@predatorgamer4607]

As someone from Colorado, this just sounds weird

[@winddmmy]

@@predatorgamer4607 how about we call it Blunt?

[@andrewhopkins886]

@@winddmmy Do it. I dare you.

[@odd-ysseusdoesstuff6347]

@@winddmmy if you were to name that atate, what would the people be called there? Blunters? Bluntists? (I mean, people in New York, as far as I know are called New Yorkers, Peeps from Virginia were called Virginians, Texas, Texans, etc. sorry m8, I don’t live in the US)

[@sonnydog830]

@@odd-ysseusdoesstuff6347 Bluntans or Bluntians.

[@anvitron]

Ah yes, that one time there could have been four Californias instead of three: -upper California -California -low California -lower low California

[@urtuzuasteguireyesangelgab1602]

Lower south California* would be my translation. Baja=lower Sur=south

[@ProfessorPhysics2]

That was a horrible idea lol. I still have no idea why the dude who made the Prop thought it would ever pass.

[@Edax_Royeaux]

It would make Baja California redundant.

[@anvitron]

@@urtuzuasteguireyesangelgab1602 yeah that definitely sounds better

[@louisduarte8763]

4? I remember a few years ago, some rich nut tried to get CA split into 6 States!

[@SamAronow]

As a native of Southern California who can actually remember when California *was* a swing state, you've got it flipped around: it's the south that would have remained a swing state longer while the north remained solidly Democratic-leaning. The northernmost fringe areas that occasionally speak up are very sparsely populated and account for less than 10% of the population.

[@wta1518]

Yeah, NorCal is basically San Francisco, Sacramento, and a handful of farmers.

[@tsovloj6510]

Yeah, especially with an economy more dependent on oil production.

[@nikhiliyengar]

Wow didn't expect to see you here Sam, small world.

[@eusoueu5504]

both would be safe blue currently, but yes the southren would be closer, but yeah, in 2004 for exemple socal would be like a 4 point margin

[@kyckrox1]

@@wta1518thanks for mentioning Sacramento

[@derfman1963]

Wait, you didn't tell us the most important thing..... what would Colorado be named in this alt-history?

[@theshlauf]

Maybe Jefferson, named after the Jefferson river. That was the name of unofficially recognized territory in that area before the feds established Colorado. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson_Territory

[@trygveplaustrum4634]

@@theshlauf Which is funny, because the current separatist movement in California is called Jefferson!

[@juliusnepos6013]

@@trygveplaustrum4634 yeah

[@StoneWeevil]

Southern California.

[@thiccymouse2299]

Colorado two

[@toganium4175]

“Filmmakers would want to escape from Thomas Edison.” 2 groups that hate Thomas Edison: filmmakers and elephants. Edit: third group would be Nikola Tesla and his supporters.

[@mihirmutalikdesai]

And also Nikola Tesla.

[@ecurewitz]

you left out the third that hates Edison: Tesla, Ok, it's just one guy, but still...

[@abid5087]

Can I get some context for this?

[@whafflete6721]

@@abid5087 Edison electrocuted an elephant during(Or Post) the AC/DC war iirc, was it to show the danger of AC? Kinda forgot

[@RM10Prod.]

Fourth group: everyone who knows even a small bit about Edison (I really hate him, he was a awful person)

[@Longshanks1690]

“Perhaps, in time, I shall be granted the honour of conquering the land known as “California.” - Legate Lanius.

[@sunnyboi2371]

We won't go quietly the legion can count on that

[@Longshanks1690]

@@sunnyboi2371 Patrolling the streets of LA almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter.

[@kyledrake9208]

True to Caesar!

[@RaidsEpicly]

I like how he says that as if Ceasar isn't going to fucking execute him once he hears that the Legate surrendered because a mailman told him that the west is too big.

[@nickstone1167]

@@RaidsEpicly NOBODY disrespects the mailman, for his feet cover more land than any army ever will. His counsel on movement is to be considered.

[@burritowyrm6530]

Californios sounds like an offbrand california specific cheerios Californi-O’s

[@Mii.2.0]

I'd eat that. 🥣

[@ericktellez7632]

In Mexico we call them Californianos and us we are Baja Californianos

[@thequillster]

Fun fact, this was one of the founding alternate future predictions for the setting of the tabletop rpg Cyberpunk 2020 (i.e. the one that inspired the videogame) - Night City is an independent city-state within the state of Northern California, or NorCal. I think it'd be cool if you did a video exploring more of the alternate history of this setting, as it goes far beyond California, and even America.

[@kentbenedict2005]

Yeah just like what he did with fallout.

[@redvorno]

Oh no... now there would be TWO NCRs!

[@dinodude6992]

Cesar's nightmare

[@kidtruck9157]

@@dinodude6992 Actually probably Ceasars dream. Would totally make them fight each other and then conquer them both.

[@Edax_Royeaux]

The Southern NCR would totally have Nick Cage in a bear consume throwing a punch on it's flag.

[@raymondclaypole6926]

Republic do we fight for? *Confuse NCR trooper noises*

[@cnlbenmc]

There's an event in the Old World Blues mod for Hoi4 where a three way civil war can break out.

[@thattimestampguy]

0:00 Texifornia 0:27 Potential State Division 0:44 California, Northern and Southern 2:07 Colorado before our Colorado 3:03 Railroads to Hollywood 4:26 Short lived 7:12 California & Colorado 8:22 Agirculture and Industry 10:00 Texas is next video

[@KaasIsLekker]

Legend :)

[@anartapoashan5714]

Supposed to be pinned

[@Chase92488]

Truly fitting name

[@Adam-vp4rf]

6:14 Jojo’s reference

[@gcd1569]

love this dude

[@aratusingtheinternet]

Me too

[@MojaveDrifter]

I mean who doesn't

[@AlternateHistoryHub]

Love you too

[@tombkings6279]

You forgot to say no homo

[@aratusingtheinternet]

@@tombkings6279 sh*t you right

[@corvus1374]

The film industry actually started in Niles and Alvarado, in Northern California, before moving to Southern California. Maybe in this time line, they stay there

[@karmaprotogen]

I love the Grass on Californias flag being green-screened to the rest of the background, lol

[@clonetrooper730]

Good to see others noticed it as well.

[@ryansarenana2194]

It's also the Gran Columbia flag.

[@ShortHax]

memes of california, texas, and florida > memes of every other state

[@fragbomb]

Can’t forget about Florida

[@eridor]

I've lived in both California and Texas. Can agree.

[@Epicmonk117]

@@fragbomb Or Alabama

[@guibin]

Florida man: *is that a challenge?*

[@pinball66]

FLORIDA MAN

[@NamelessGamer29]

I’m glad they didn’t split because “Welcome to the hotel Colorado” just doesn’t roll as well off the tongue

[@rabasi8330]

Or "Dream of Colorodication"

[@sunnyboi2371]

Colorado dreamin

[@gianrivero4008]

"Don't Colorado my Texas"

[@joegeorge2023]

or “Going to Colorado”

[@vinny9868]

It does, you're just biased because you're used to California.

[@Newbmann]

California allready might as well be split in 2 Norcal and Socal have diffrent names for a reason. Although the lines between the 2 are very "fluid".

[@jeffbenton6183]

"with differing ideologies, except, you know, exceptions" Thanks so much for pointing out that California and Texas are not monolithic entities! So many people talk as if this isn't true.

[@Meglomaniaforever]

I think there is one thing we can all agree on. That is, by far, one of the best state flag designs.

[@Dayvit78]

Bears on flags? Hell ya

[@DameOfDiamonds]

Not really, nothing beats the Texas flag

[@Cyltik]

*What if Mongols conquered Japan* is a video long overdue!!

[@moblinmajorgeneral]

Imagine everything bad about Japan from the Sengoku era to World War II, and then crank it up even more. Because the societal backlash against the Mongols was severe even at its most mild.

[@swisschese5962]

Alternative title: what of the British made the borders of California 🇬🇧

[@Mylifebehindthecamera]

Haha

[@californiaball2599]

Meh... I kinda like that new border. Side note: I live in inland SoCal.

[@angadgrewal9324]

Californians in this timeline: oh no

[@theunreadyone]

Well we all know how much Americans like drawing squares in their east coast borders

[@zyanego3170]

Bri'ish

[@mr.man16yearsago4]

This guy is gonna predict the future of the universe.

[@nelsondisalvatore9812]

He already did, have you not hear the tale of our glorious Emperor Jeb.

[@LedosKell]

"And with that, I secured the necessary electoral votes to win this election. It'll be a tough road but if history has taught us anything, it's that Ohio has produced a lot of Presidents. This is President-Elect Cody and this is the final episode of AlternateHistoryHub... for now."

[@IamRayson]

Oh that easy. Entropy.

[@icostaticrebound6007]

1:06 "Before California became the dystopian nightmare that it is today..." I live in California and I can assure you it is indeed a dystopian nightmare.

[@Alphastarilium]

yep 😔

[@ryanlozano9086]

Oh you mean the homeless thing right

[@nathaniellindner313]

It's a weird disaster where some people are making so much money that it disrupts society... I think the Spanish solved that problem in the 17th century by losing a bunch of wars in Europe, might have to give that a go to bring housing prices down

[@bruceloh7926]

Yep... I cri...

[@acatwithafancyhat5782]

I’m sorry to hear that you live in a third world country. I hope you get out before the rest of the country saw it off and float it off into the ocean to be never heard from again.

[@elliottroberts764]

Another brilliant video as usual. Though the thing that stood at for me at this point is the editing. The avatars and comedic timing, spinning, and stretching, of all the characters was hilarious. I reckon you had a good amount of fun with this one huh? Keep it up!

[@DeconvertedMan]

Those of us that are California born read "split in two" and think that your talking about it splitting off from America and floating away into the ocean.

[@501ststormtrooper9]

*Oh, that’d be nice.*

[@certain_sloth]

Make California Island Again!

[@Edax_Royeaux]

California can go hang with Hawaii. Alaska can come too.

[@rexcatston8412]

There should be a video on the logistics of making it happen... Followed by a fundraiser that'd meet it's goal in about 80 seconds

[@burritowyrm6530]

please do

[@Jtdm-zg5lc]

Im from serbia and I laughed my ass off, thanks for the joke

[@tobiasjosekoch3475]

Joke?

[@Jtdm-zg5lc]

@@tobiasjosekoch3475 0:07

[@grahamturner2640]

What does the joke mean?

[@edwardblair4096]

@@grahamturner2640 "... both larger in size than many independent countries...", with a figure wearing the flag of Serbia floating by.

[@ZenolicZX]

Man, patrolling the Mojave sure makes you wish for a nuclear winter

[@unepommeverte17]

you know, i always wondered why the socal counties made a perfect line lol. but as someone born and raised in the bay area, i don't love being lumped in with the State of Jefferson conservatives. we're all norcal, yes, but saying norcal is conservative is *wild* to me. when i think of conservative californians, i think of orange county before i remember redding lol

[@notsoawesomeone]

Yeah he was completely off about the swing state status of North California. If you get the election results from 2020 of just the North part of California as shown in the video, it's still EXTREMELY SAFE Democratic.

[@bl1tz533]

San Francisco makes me depressed tbh

[@Ark_3311]

Yeah, and I don't like being lumped in with Bay Area liberals

[@theeyeofra805]

"Up to this point, California was like an island thousands of miles away from shore." In some ways, it still is.

[@andrewhopkins886]

And if you wish, really REALLY hard...! it won't happen but maybe you'll clear your constipation.

[@NorseGraphic]

California is now detached from reality....

[@Cairo40000]

Living in Nevada is like sitting next to a ticking time bomb that gets set on fire too much

[@silverback7675]

@@andrewhopkins886 I don’t know, you seem more full of it than the op, so maybe stop projecting

[@andrewhopkins886]

@@silverback7675 1: troll harder. Seriously, even by troll standards that bait was horrible but thanks for reminding me about the guy above you.

[@HistoryOfRevolutions]

"It's like a competition: the one who wears the crown is the one who's made the most corpses" - Juan Pablo Villalobos,

[@Mii.2.0]

Soooo....Queen Elizabeth II?

[@robinchesterfield42]

For some reason that reminds me of Isaac Arthur's quote about "anything that makes it to the top of the four billion year deep corpse pile of evolution is not gonna be a wimp!" Kind of the geological-time version of the quote you just said.

[@arbarsharif2496]

He put Gyro Zeppeli in the video... what a legend.

[@wanshimagnumdong8834]

Where?

[@eaglesgodfather]

6:15

[@whafflete6721]

@@eaglesgodfather Thanks. Based.

[@MonsieurDean]

Pffft. Split California in two? You are like a baby. Watch this. > *S I X C A L I F O R N I A S*

[@kyledrake9208]

Legendary

[@noodles7193]

9:37 “Think of it like Virginia”. So would California be a basically a Democratic stronghold on the national level but be more competitive in the House and local governments?

[@illumaQ]

“Lines on a map are important” Britain and France: Yeah sure buddy

[@typicalperson6389]

Idea: What if Sun Yat Sen’s Dream China became a reality?

[@1vantheterrible814]

"...and communication was by horse" AHH: *Shows Gyro" Me: "Yeah, I don't think those letters got to their destination..."

[@The_Solar_Duck]

8:03 OK so as a California resident who lives in this area there are just oil rigs everywhere

[@tracerbullet8563]

I’ve been to places like Bakersfield and Paso Robles and oil rigs are literally everywhere. This really surprised me as a northerner, as even though I lived in California my whole life, I never knew we had oil rigs!

[@doxdoomsday4948]

Thanks for your hard work!!

[@medified4872]

It's hilarious how there's literally a guy named "Andres G. Pico" currently serving in the Colorado House of Representatives.

[@schlirf]

lets not forget the proposed state of "Jefferson" in 1941

[@lrdxgm]

You mean the one mentioned at 0:55.

[@schlirf]

@@lrdxgm le Opps...

[@lefu87williford55]

Colorado is still just Utah and Kansas, with Denver stuck in the middle.

[@mrpink8951]

To quote a Brit: "Colorado is the state that suddenly existed only after weed was legalized"

[@lefu87williford55]

@@mrpink8951 just ask someone from Kansas. They got so mad when Colorado legalized weed and kept running into a brick wall trying to change another state's laws.

[@ashkitt7719]

Wb Boulder?

[@ashkitt7719]

@@mrpink8951 South Park tho.

[@robinchesterfield42]

Fun fact: My own home state of Utah wanted to legalise weed quite shortly after Colorado did, and alMOST did, but it got voted down at the last second. Too bad--can you _imagine_ a whole state full of really chill Mormons...trying to hide the reason WHY they're so chill? :P (also apparently my Steam account consistently thinks I'm in Colorado anyway. What.)

[@skypentraico4322]

Two videos in Three weeks?!?! IT'S A MIRACLE!

[@yousefshahin2654]

Indeed it is

[@k-majik]

You read my mind, I was thinking about this exact idea the day before you published this video! Spoopy

[@thejollygoodrodger8465]

Happy Independence Day Cody!🇺🇸🗽 Love the vids! Much love from Australia. EX LS Royal Australian Navy.

[@mrsammyg3125]

What if Ohio actually existed?

[@hammerhand9449]

As a Californian I will say one thing, dont lump us northern Californians into rural republicans, all the way from reno to the coast is solid blue and cuts through Sacramento and san fransico

[@britishmenace9565]

Much like how some of Southern California's Counties are solidly republican too - To me it seems like more of a coast/inland split than a North/South divide, politically speaking

[@carlredfield1693]

I think he’s implying way up north, especially near and around Shasta county

[@uss_04]

Had a talk with my family from New England about that. Last few years they believed the voting demographics were like SF/LA for the entire state.

[@MisterSpinalzo]

thats fascinating but California is still rightful clay of the Spanish Habsburgs

[@kenshin4113]

Well, I’m from Reno, and though it is true our two urban areas are rather blue, I’ve had seen plenty of yee yee conservatives inTahoe and the Sierras. Also there’s quite the tension between the more boondocks part of this city and the more cosmopolitan elements.

[@Honeybadger_525]

Great video! I grew up in SoCal but live in NorCal now. Having lived in both ends of the state, I have to admit that SoCal has way more people than it has any right to have. Had the state been split up, I agree the lack of access to NorCal's water resources definitely would have limited SoCal's growth and resulted in the region retaining a smaller more agrarian and petroleum-based economy. Whereas, NorCal would likely be much wealthier and more populous than SoCal due to not having to share their water with their southern neighbors. I also think that both states would politically become more purple and less blue as a result.

[@DougGlendower]

The line still exists. When they carved up Mariposa this line became the North border of San Luis Obispo, Kern, and San Bernardino Counties

[@isopodgwad1811]

I’ve had a bad couple months, these videos open my imagination and makes me feel normal for once. Thank you for bringing some sort of relief. Thank you Cody.

[@nelhuiliztli2926]

Personally, I would’ve name them differently. To match with their sisters south of the border, they would be called Alta California & Alta California Norte. But this is just me wanting a little balance.

[@dkitzef8955]

Es un genio

[@ErikNilsen1337]

"Sodom of San Francisco" Some things never change.

[@nathaniellindner313]

Back then "The Sodom of San Francisco" was less "I fear gay people" and more "The city's filling up with ruffians looking to strike it rich, gangs of Australians are fighting armies of vigilantes in the streets, and people are crashing ships onto the land and having sex in them" though

[@ErikNilsen1337]

@@nathaniellindner313 Oh yes, I know. Even then, the rule of law in present-day San Francisco is teetering.

[@kumquatsmangoes5354]

Wdym?

[@ErikNilsen1337]

@@kumquatsmangoes5354 High violent crime rate, streets filled with human feces, garbage, and discarded needles, etc.

[@kumquatsmangoes5354]

@@ErikNilsen1337 I c

[@Wraithfighter]

I think you're overselling the political impact of splitting the state in two between LA and SF. Honestly, it'd likely be Southern California that'd be more of a swing state. Sure, the stuff north of San Francisco is pretty conservative, but it's also very sparsely populated. Meanwhile, its Orange County and San Diego that have historically been some of the strongest conservative areas in the state, at least when it comes to moderately populated areas. NorCal would likely stay the heavily liberal state with a contentious northern segment that shouts a lot but doesn't have enough votes to get anything done, while SoCal would be more like, well, Arizona and New Mexico, heavier in the swing state quotient.

[@Dafwog2013]

Agreed, as a native San Diegan, I consider this county more purple than blue. It's very mixed, ethnically and politically.

[@jonnunn4196]

Los Angeles county has 10 Million people vs the entire San Francisco metro of 4.7 Million. San Diego and Orange get hopelessly outvoted - to the point that if Southern California were a state there'd be proposals to forceably kick Los Angeles County out and into its own state similar to the proposals of Downstate IL to kick Chicago out.

[@Wraithfighter]

@@jonnunn4196 Orange County has a population of 3.2 Million, and San Diego has a population of 3.3 Million. They're outvoted by Los Angeles, but not by an insurmountable margin, particularly if conservatives could make inroads into San Bernadino or Riverside counties (2.2 and 2.5 million, respectively).

[@ireallycantthinkofaname4726]

Great video

[@thorogood473]

I am a longtime fan and have got to say that I love the quality of your vids, and that you like your new state

[@RAS_Squints]

All I want is a flag with a 2 Headed Bear

[@peterkershaw11]

The real question is: what impact does this have on the events of Fallout?

[@superdoglogan]

We have the NCR, but it’s the New Colorado Republic

[@ratboyoftheratrealm5844]

Man, I just want a video about boats. Please, my man, please, do a video about how the existence of boats in history. I know it's ridiculous and niche, but it's such a cool idea.

[@michaelgjrjvebs]

It's worth noting Virginia is considered to be moderately blue now, not a swing state

[@MattNeufy]

Great video and REALLY great music!

[@number6338]

I'm a Northern Californian, much different than Southern California. I see confederate flags on a normal basis.

[@charliepotatoes6332]

Omg? Wtf? Really?

[@number6338]

@@charliepotatoes6332 Yeah but it isn't as bad as the south. People think the flag means republican when that's not what it stands for.

[@sheldondinkleberg6525]

@@number6338 To be fair the *dixie flag* means many different things depending on who is flying it.

[@kumquatsmangoes5354]

@@sheldondinkleberg6525 Not really? What other meanings are you alluding to?

[@number6338]

@@sheldondinkleberg6525 To be fair what does the confederate flag have to do with that? The confederate flag is just that. A flag that represents the confederacy.

[@gavros9636]

The Texas constitution lets the state split itself into 5 pieces... this is not a get out of the union free card like some politicians like to claim it is, all it does is quintuple texas power in the senate.

[@kyledrake9208]

Yea then we would demonstrate just how cancer the libs beloved democracy can be

[@MisterSpinalzo]

@@kyledrake9208 Texas should split off and become an absolute monarchy just to flex on the rest of the US

[@kyledrake9208]

@@MisterSpinalzo I nominate Emperor Diocletian. Just remember not to do price controls this time.

[@fatrooster4632]

@@kyledrake9208 Cringe monarchist, Cringe Authoritarian, or Cringe fascist? Which one are you?

[@charleshawkins7337]

I’m a cringe Anarcho-Monarchist (Joke)

[@wouldyouliketomeetkenbamba9495]

"What if California split in two?" *Looks at Baja California Err...

[@darken2417]

No, incorrect. Baja California was not unified with the California that was annexed. The California was Alta California and it was separate from Baja California.

[@Sly88Frye]

So much of Northern California is liberal too though. I'm from wine Country and it's very liberal here and just an hour South is San Francisco which is even more liberal. Even hours North in Humboldt County where Eureka and Arcata are is in fact liberal. When it comes to California the only place is I could really think of that are very strongly conservative or Anaheim which is actually in Southern California and would be in that new state's territory mentioned on this video and Bakersfield which is also down there in Southern California and then I think I've heard that the Central Valley where Modesto and Stockton are is apparently more conservative and that's up in Northern California or actually what is central California but nevertheless where the line divides is Northern California. Lake County which is about an hour Northeast of me I think is a little more conservative but not by whole lot. More like a swing area. So honestly I'm really not too sure if this new Northern California would actually be considered a swing state because a lot of it's territory is definitely still quite liberal. I mean the way way way up North near the Oregon border maybe conservative but it's not very highly populated except maybe Redding which actually technically is considered huge at its 96,000 population. My hometown of Santa Rosa which is the largest city in the North Bay and the fifth largest city in the San Francisco Bay area and easily the largest city in wine country has a population of 175,000 people and for so much of my life living here I actually honestly thought this place was small but then learned it isn't.

[@UnknownTuber450]

8:20 the part I been waiting for after hearing the state was named Colorado is what would the now known state of Colorado be called

[@alexl9012]

With the power of freedom I split California in two.

[@michaeljf6472]

*Splitting California into two Lex Luthor: "well this looks like a job for me"

[@thefork3525]

I still see oil wells every other day living in Southern California

[@SuperMaanas]

LA is like 50% oil wells and 50% homeless

[@egret4393]

Interesting you bring in the southerner stuff too, my city of El Monte, about 13 miles East of DTLA, was a confederate base for a while.

[@johnrandolph1989]

Love the Man with no Name character you used, now you need to use Tuco and Angel Eyes for the next video.

[@cax1175]

The "Jefferson" of California would be puny, so the major of California wouldn't be affected.

[@jonnunn4196]

It would either be Four or Five Congressional districts following 2020 census if 1940s statehood doesn't change population patterns - but one or two of them would be from Southern Oregon.

[@kylerowsley]

They really just want to leave to escape the harmful policies passed by the larger, more Democrat cities which leaves them with little representation, much like the divide in west and eastern Washington.

[@als3022]

​@@kylerowsley That and the constant stealing of their water doesn't help. There are a few Northern Californian Towns that have simply ceased to exist because of the major cities just taking their water. I sympathize. Atlanta, Georgia has major water issues too (Not as bad as California, but still) and it keeps trying to tap into the Savannah River. Which feeds water to two major Georgia cities and dozens of towns on Georgia and South Carolina. So yeah big cities are sponges for water rights and don't normally care whose life they ruin to get it.

[@ashkitt7719]

@@kylerowsley Or the cities of the Southwest of Texas tbh

[@andyjay729]

@@ashkitt7719 Or Phoenix and Tucson in Arizona

[@Thee_Sinner]

The only thing I care about is whether or not in-n-out will still exist.

[@frankdecron1306]

Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter

[@tombkings6279]

We Can't expect god to do all the work.

[@dinodude6992]

Zach: yeah yeah, makes you wish for a nuclear winter, makes you wish for a nuclear winter, SHUT UP!

[@bruceloh7926]

Living in the Mojave makes you want water.

[@robinchesterfield42]

@@bruceloh7926 The only response here that makes literal sense. :P (Also God wouldn't do a nuclear winter, WE would! We're the ones who made the nuclear weapons, after all. If you mean a volcanic winter than sure, "God" could do THAT one. Just wait for Yellowstone to go off!)

[@ezio2altair]

Interesting thing is…before the 1990’s. Southern California kept California in the red column. It was the north coast (e.g. San Francisco) that was liberal.

[@kurtsteinert7569]

Funny how history cycles, the vote in Congress on the State of Jefferson (northern most part of California and southern Oregon) was scheduled December 8,1941. Events changed that.

[@ehdyh4hd524]

California splits "This is getting out of hand now there are two of them".

[@cobraglatiator]

four.

[@axellaurence722]

The question is what would our Colorado be called

[@or_gluzman561Peace_IL_PS]

it will be called south park!

[@fatrooster4632]

Probably Jefferson

[@egret4393]

Southerners in SoCal? That’s just called Kern County

[@nerdyman7190]

I haven’t watched a video of yours in a long time. I finally have again

[@withintheshyness]

You should do one on if Oregon had been split in half (which is something that also was seriously considered until the Umpqua River had a landslide that prevented it from being navigable)

[@braydenbriscoe_8763]

As a Southern Californian I can confirm it is a dystopia

[@fatrooster4632]

Its literally the same as everywhere else except the property values are insanely high. Blame the capitalists and corporate America, and their Democrat and Republican dick sucker's for all out country's problems

[@snintendog]

@@fatrooster4632 Nah i blame rich AF Democrats and their 3 real voters the rest are SLAVE VOTES

[@fatrooster4632]

@@snintendog You have fallen for corporate lies who want to divide the working class. The enemy is Corporate America and their Democrat and Republican politician slaves

[@confirmedbachelor4650]

Hearing, "Pro-Slavery Democratic Party" is hilarious xD

[@knection1986]

Yeah its jarring what politics looked like then.

[@kidtruck9157]

Well its actually a valid distinction as there were factions of the party that disagreed with slavery.

[@ShantyIrishman]

You are either not American or didn't pay attention in school.

[@dillonblair6491]

@@ShantyIrishman No???? Its because how different the party is now.... obviously

[@kyledrake9208]

@@dillonblair6491 Are they though?

[@robby9616]

Politicians in Illinois have more recently discussed splitting the state up, using the Illinois river as the new border. We are tired of being dominated by corrupt Chicago politics....

[@boazjamesmiller6387]

Even though your state capital is Springfield?

[@boazjamesmiller6387]

@Devon Fletcher I think I can understand your point, as to how a large area's population being largely concentrated in a smaller area within that area can create the illusion of most of that large area holding a perticular opinion. However, there are plenty of conservatives in Los Angeles and San Francisco, and a large number of liberals in rural parts of California, northern and southern alike. Chicago, Springfield and other parts of Illinois all have their mix of liberal and conservative opinions, it's the same with many areas. For instance, I live in the Australian state of Queensland, which has a reputation of being conservative and right-wing, but I and many other kids and teachers in the High School I went to were pretty socially liberal (not to be confused with the Australian Liberal Party, which contrary to the name is super right-wing). I guess Queensland in general is kind of mixed, because we generally tend to vote for the left-wing Labour party in State elections (worker's rights, health and education, infrastructure, etc) and for the more right-wing Liberals and Nationals in Federal elections (capitalism, low taxes, migrants taking our jerbs, etc). I'm sure you must have similar attitudes wherever you live in Illinois or California. I'm actually looking forward to reading what you have to say about this.

[@AbsolXGuardian]

Wild video, especially for someone who live in Souther California's red curtain

[@noturbusiness9736]

Saw that this was recently posted and instantly clicked. Never fails to entertain

[@ewanfawkes2708]

Idea: What if King Henry VIII never created the church of England (and never gets a divorce from his first wife)

[@Jkev24]

Wow, normally I know a lot about the topics you cover already, but this one I didn't know about... AND I LIVE IN CALIFORNIA! Honestly, really well done. Had to watch this twice because my brain started going in a million directions thinking how life would be different if SoCal were to be separate from NorCal.

[@Johnrich395]

Serious question: If the proposal was just "swept under the rug." Could it legally be adopted without further vote of Californians? I'm thinking that it could be a similar process as the 24th amendment.

[@I_am_somebody_1234]

After many months this has came, and oh boy did it was worth the wait

[@cnlbenmc]

1:07 Yep I live about 200 miles away from LA and it is astounding how far down the tubes it's gone at record speed.

[@crimsondynamo615]

So in an alternate timeline the song would have been Colorado Dreamin’

[@hankdaboi5249]

At this point, what state doesn't have a rural succession movement in it right now?

[@commisaryarreck3974]

Seems most people are tired of Gigantic cities overriding their vote Who knows...

[@britishmenace9565]

Considering that rural States have disproportionate amounts of political power relative to their economies and population, I can think of some different reasons than just that.

[@falsename226]

@@britishmenace9565 Only in the electoral college, and only if the whole state is dominated by it's rural region.

[@fatrooster4632]

@@commisaryarreck3974 Its almost as if.... Democracy is supposed to represent the will of the majority of people....

[@shiny_teddiursa]

@@commisaryarreck3974 Is it “overriding” or do just more people live in cities? What do you propose, limiting voting rights on urbanites, like what republicans are already doing?

[@TheElizondo88]

The water issue is a bit more important than what you describe. The California and Los Angeles aqueducts both get their water from central and norther California, which remains in California in this timeline. Building them and getting both states to coordinate would be harder than in our world. This means that as "Colorado" urbanizes a lot more water will be diverted from agriculture. "Colorado" might still be urban, but the agricultural industry in the area will take a big hit, which in turn will affect immigration patterns. Agricultural workers (whether from Oaklahoma/Arkansas in the depression, or the regular influx of Mexican migrants) might skip "Colorado" for "California" (which in turn has more water).

[@austinwallick8744]

This was really interesting and very well done (as always)

[@Camodiel]

I thought this was gonna be when this one guy tried making NorCal and SoCal different states in the early 2010's but this is also fascinating.