How can Pogba and Mourinho's feud be resolved? | The Debate | Bellamy & Murphy

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@jordykingstongrows3639
@jordykingstongrows3639 6 жыл бұрын
*Just because Pogba is saying what alot of the fans agree with doesn't give him the right to say it or reduce his effort* People overlook Pogba's blatent undermining of his boss because they agree with his points..🤦🏾‍♂️ If your manager at work has as plan that he believes will bring success but 4 or 5 members of the team are not following the plan with 100% commitment.. How will you ever be able to know without doubt whether that plan would of worked or not 🤷🏾‍♂️ If u disagree with the way your manager wants to you perform at work or have an idea that you think is better.. that doesn't give you an excuse to not put 100% effort into what he/she is asking you to do.. because regardless of his plan you should want success for the team you are in! This is my problem with Pogba and a few other players I haven't seen them put in 100% effort over a prolonged period of time. If this was the case you could say without any doubt your managers plan isn't good enough. *BUT RIGHT NOW YOU CAN ONLY ASSUME IT ISNT* Pep Guardiola who many believe has the best plan for his team to follow doesn't win every game but still expects 100% effort from his players in the next match irregardless of whether the previous match was won lost or draw. 90% or 95% effort isn't acceptable especially when their are often fine margins between success and failure.
@mrbennett
@mrbennett 6 жыл бұрын
You deserve a hi five and a beer. Very correct all round.
@kevinkevvin9733
@kevinkevvin9733 6 жыл бұрын
The best comment out of all of this. If only the rest of the world could see it this way. Everything there is true
@ricinho11
@ricinho11 6 жыл бұрын
yes yes, you can give 100% but if its not working you will not get results and performances cos you're conditioned?
@elvisng76204
@elvisng76204 6 жыл бұрын
Pogba problems seems to start after Sanchez joined and rumoured to be paid higher
@NoelleFrancisco
@NoelleFrancisco 6 жыл бұрын
Put them in a ring and let them battle it out. Fed up with them both!
@siddyfisher1765
@siddyfisher1765 6 жыл бұрын
If those two are Danny Murphy and Craig Bellamy then I completely agree
@_bakz_3682
@_bakz_3682 6 жыл бұрын
Mourinho : Your WC win was a fluke. You are lucky to be playing at United. Pogba : Yeah, you think so..you think so... Mourinho : Don't make me laugh, you cant even play decent football for 90 mins. Pogba : Oh yeah, we'll see...
@StephenButlerOne
@StephenButlerOne 6 жыл бұрын
@Hamzah Mahmood that was my first thought on reading the ops comment.
@danielorourke1304
@danielorourke1304 6 жыл бұрын
Wel said Noelle good woman.
@calbaffetimbi148
@calbaffetimbi148 6 жыл бұрын
@@siddyfisher1765 Underrated comment
@jordiboy6183
@jordiboy6183 6 жыл бұрын
They can criticise Pogba as much as they want, but as former footballers, how can they not recognise that the system Pogba’s in at the moment massively limits him and many of the other players. Lukaku at Everton wasnt a hold up striker, he was running into channels and running at players with power. Sanchez has been limited because theres so little movement. Martial struggles. Rashfords struggling. The thing in common with all these players is they play better for their countries in different systems with different managers, how are we all of a sudden blind to that. And saying Modric ran circles round Pogba in the final is literally scandalous. Sky Sports gave Pogba MotM saying he kept his discipline when so many in his team didnt and eventually outgunned Modric. Sky also gave Kante a 5 out of 10, lowest in the French team, so to say Kante makes Pogba in this French team is ridiculous. Just because you used to play the game doesnt make you a good pundit, this hype round Modric atm has clearly gone to Bellamy’s head. Please employ someone with intellect Sky.
@TheWallethead
@TheWallethead 6 жыл бұрын
Jordi boy absolutely spot on
@traesongs1
@traesongs1 6 жыл бұрын
This comment should be at the top. spot on.
@onuchukwuo.7470
@onuchukwuo.7470 6 жыл бұрын
see they should hire you. you’re a thinker
@oghaze9318
@oghaze9318 6 жыл бұрын
Pogba was surrounded by top players, he isn't in United that's the truth. Mourinho just can't replace the entire squad at once
@Theotan1191
@Theotan1191 6 жыл бұрын
Look at Hazards numbers the same year this happened at Chelsea. The players were ready to organize a walk-out in the locker room. The decrease in form from these players is a direct result in Mourniho's mental state. Hes unhealthy, controlling, and trying to gaslight his players, rather than build them up. He makes little sense in press conferences and is uncomfortable. Transmitting terrible energy onto his players and at least Pogba is bringing light to it. Best comment in this video comes at 13:37.
@InternetTrafficCop
@InternetTrafficCop 6 жыл бұрын
This is just a repetition of Jose's final season at Chelsea. This dude blamed some physio for a loss. He's a complete joke who refuses to take responsibility. The idea that this is Pogba's fault completely ignores the fact that this doesn't happen with Pogba anywhere else, and the fact that this happens EVERYWHERE Jose goes. The common denominator is Jose always.
@scratchthesurface3138
@scratchthesurface3138 6 жыл бұрын
So whats Pogba done to prove himself, I can think of many times Jose has proven himself. Dont get me wrong Joses tactics are to stagnate teams and I abhor that, but the guys systems work. Pogbas' performances dont and that isn't because of tactics, he is poor on the ball and inconsistent with it.
@InternetTrafficCop
@InternetTrafficCop 6 жыл бұрын
@@scratchthesurface3138 um, he won the world cup? Admittedly he hasn't been brilliant with United, but then, nobody has under Jose
@scratchthesurface3138
@scratchthesurface3138 6 жыл бұрын
The world cup? Seriously? The champions league is more of a difficult competition. Plus its easy when you have other great players round you. Look at Modric with Croatia that's a world class player, getting them to the final. Its easy to be a sheep in a team.
@daveerwin6981
@daveerwin6981 6 жыл бұрын
Jack MallamChampion's league isn't tougher. Pressure is less cos it's less prestigious and has less value. And Pogba wiped his arse with Modric in the final. Pogba was man of the match
@scratchthesurface3138
@scratchthesurface3138 6 жыл бұрын
You have got to be joking? Pogba dominated that final? So Modric was just given the FIFA player award for nothing then? Pogba had great players around him, I didnt see Croatia with a Griezman, an Mbappe, a Matuidi and Kante to back him up, didnt see a Varane or Umtiti at the back to allow Modric to push on, but he did, he did all those things and covered every area of the pitch with quality. Pogba just picked up the pieces, dont get me wrong he threaded a good ball here and there, but he never dominated anything.
@uralwong799
@uralwong799 6 жыл бұрын
Alex Ferguson would never do something like this......He would at least have hit Pogba round the head with a boot
@Mad_Intellect
@Mad_Intellect 6 жыл бұрын
LMAO smh
@imo098765
@imo098765 6 жыл бұрын
How many times has Jose publicly insulted Pogba with Pogba keeping quiet? Pogba now speaks up and says exactly what the fans want from their club, that they keep going, its a problem? With every single attacking player underperforming since Jose arrived at the club and the two young talents regressing, its unacceptable. Either all the players are bad or they dont want to play for Jose. Didnt the same players at Chelsea win the league after Jose got sacked?
@MrGts92
@MrGts92 6 жыл бұрын
He's saying it at a time when Barca are interested and he can engineer a move without getting blame because Jose is around. Funny that.
@WILLis678
@WILLis678 6 жыл бұрын
Jose has never insulted Pogba before. Stop being a lying fuckwit.
@Only1koji
@Only1koji 6 жыл бұрын
It’s almost like a black man can’t stand up to the Man
@mrsanchez3036
@mrsanchez3036 6 жыл бұрын
The players are bad. Mourinho made Chelsea. Stop
@mrsanchez3036
@mrsanchez3036 6 жыл бұрын
Cogie Butler you trolling?
@_bakz_3682
@_bakz_3682 6 жыл бұрын
Pogba- "I think we should play attacking football when we're at home, in front of our fans" The fans- "How dare he criticise Jose. He's disrespectful to the club. Overrated donkey. Sell him. No one is bigger than the club. This is the problem with modern footballers" Comedy club lmao😂😭😭
@jamesharrywaters
@jamesharrywaters 6 жыл бұрын
_BAKZ_ How many times are you gonna post this? Sad
@therambler3713
@therambler3713 6 жыл бұрын
GO AWAY TROLL
@jacktunes018
@jacktunes018 6 жыл бұрын
WILL why? Because he’s speaking the truth? You lot are actually pathetic. Pogba is a FANTASTIC player he showed that at the WC and at Juve yet because he’s not performing just like every other player on the pitch, it’s pogba that needs to go? If you’re gonna get rid of pogba, at the very LEAST wait for Jose to get sacked/leaves and then see how he performs under a new manager
@hamanrohbani5563
@hamanrohbani5563 6 жыл бұрын
Im a ManU Fan and im one the pogba side. He was right so say that
@_bakz_3682
@_bakz_3682 6 жыл бұрын
@@jacktunes018 you're using too much sense for these KZbin commenters
@versastyledio
@versastyledio 6 жыл бұрын
8:50-9:14 This guy is sooooo wrong. Mourinho talked about cheap eggs and good eggs back in 2007, talking about his own Chelsea players. Then at Real Madrid he publicly slated at least Pepe and Casillas. Ignorance or denial??
@charlierobertson8910
@charlierobertson8910 6 жыл бұрын
Mourinho vs Pogba in the UFC Octagon. Make it happen Dana
@sanjayd7
@sanjayd7 6 жыл бұрын
Pogba played badly in 2 games, he has been great the rest of the games and has been Uniteds best player.. How can u expect so much from him when the whole team is under performing
@tomriddle3871
@tomriddle3871 6 жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t say he’s been great. Pretty average with some sparks.
@berbasilk5906
@berbasilk5906 6 жыл бұрын
Pogba has been sick this season, his main issue is not having good outlets for when he looks up for option
@jay5353
@jay5353 6 жыл бұрын
Sanjay Demali Luke Shaw and de gea then Pogba
@jamesharrywaters
@jamesharrywaters 6 жыл бұрын
Tom Riddle You're mad lol
@jamesharrywaters
@jamesharrywaters 6 жыл бұрын
Jay Nope, Pogba then Shaw then De Gea
@jb1635
@jb1635 6 жыл бұрын
How do they keep having pundits who have no idea what social media really is have such strong opinions... saying he shouldn't be on his phone? Is he 10 years old?
@imo098765
@imo098765 6 жыл бұрын
The best part of the entire Instagram post, was the players enjoying themselves when their teammates are in a winning position. That shows support and respect to them on the field, including the fans who see it. It gets people and excited to cheer
@_bakz_3682
@_bakz_3682 6 жыл бұрын
Pogba- "I think we should play attacking football when we're at home, in front of our fans" The fans- "How dare he criticise Jose. He's disrespectful to the club. Overrated donkey. Sell him. No one is bigger than the club. This is the problem with modern footballers" Comedy club lmao😂😭😭
@MrGts92
@MrGts92 6 жыл бұрын
Then he should stop acting like 10yr old.
@MrWhitmen1981
@MrWhitmen1981 6 жыл бұрын
Should be watching the game in front watching and learning. Do you get your phone out when you cross the road?
@pepesmoov
@pepesmoov 6 жыл бұрын
Only the children, or people with the mental age of a child, will agree that spouting off on social media is a good thing. Keep your head down, perfect your talent, and help the team.
@closeencounter-cultureclos4200
@closeencounter-cultureclos4200 6 жыл бұрын
Mourinho uses the dirty tactic of slagging off his players publicly. Pogba is just fighting fire with fire.
@whospetcov9650
@whospetcov9650 6 жыл бұрын
It’s funny how people keep bringing up Pogba’s performances while the entire team is playing badly! If lukaku takes some of his chances things could be so different!
@jamesharrywaters
@jamesharrywaters 6 жыл бұрын
Who’s Petcov Pogba has been so good so far this season, 4 goals 2 assists and 4 MOTM awards in 7 games
@_bakz_3682
@_bakz_3682 6 жыл бұрын
Pogba has been your best player. Your fans still criticise him because you support a comedy club🤣😭😭
@TheEPtv
@TheEPtv 6 жыл бұрын
EXACTLY the whole team is playing crap!!!!!!! Thats on Jose!!! Pogba getting grief because he’s talking the TRUTH!!!! Tactics are garbage
@ijuwan17
@ijuwan17 6 жыл бұрын
Who’s Petcov well when you are the PLAY MAKER in the center of the team, the team suffers when you don't control the game!
@jacktunes018
@jacktunes018 6 жыл бұрын
The Machine I’m an Arsenal fan but so what if he is? Realistically he was never going to match his £90 million price tag, it was a stupid price to pay and I bet even pogba himself would lower it if he could so i don’t think it’s fair to expect the world from him. He’s been their best player so far this season, the negative results are not because of him, that’s the manager...
@KeeperCharlie
@KeeperCharlie 6 жыл бұрын
Both toxic af. Just look at other clubs and ask: why the drama? Pogba has attitude problem for very long and mourinho's ego cant back down and club is suffering from it. Sack both
@emmanuelshaspppamoah7323
@emmanuelshaspppamoah7323 6 жыл бұрын
Must be nuts. Pogba is right. If pogba goes the style of play won’t change and Jose will have to go. Pogba is one of the best players in the prem. if zidane came in I guarantee you that pogba will want to stay because the manager is attacking and updated. I would be fed up myself. Jose Out.
@pcbradley841
@pcbradley841 6 жыл бұрын
Emmanuel’s has ppp Amoah no where near one of the best in the prem, he’s just one of the most popular
@jay5353
@jay5353 6 жыл бұрын
Jose says what he has to say in the public why should pogba be an exception He has criticized almost half the squad in public why can't someone criticize him in public?
@nicholastaylor9375
@nicholastaylor9375 6 жыл бұрын
I think Mourinho should be given the boot. I don't agree with Pogba criticising his tactics in public, but it's clear that Mourinho is failing to get the best out of most of the United squad. In fact, I struggle to think of a United player who has actually improved in Mourinho's time as manager. As far as I'm concerned United have gone as far as they can under Jose, he won't ever get us to the point where we can genuinely challenge City and it appears that we've fallen behind the likes of Liverpool, Chelsea and Spurs at the moment as well.
@Norris1st
@Norris1st 6 жыл бұрын
How many players lose the ball at the half way line and get blamed for a goal... People don't like Pogba so they blame him for everything but did he play against Derby, No so explain why the talk is all about Pogba and not Mourinho's poor tactics
@thebiasedreview5432
@thebiasedreview5432 6 жыл бұрын
He did lose the ball against wolves and brighton. And he gets blamed because he is a CM. If a winger loses the ball in the halfway line, it's different. If a CM loses it, you have only 3 or 4 players, out of which you have chris smalling and phil jones.
@Norris1st
@Norris1st 6 жыл бұрын
@@thebiasedreview5432 so are you saying that 3 or 4 players isn't enough cover from the half way line? It doesn't matter who's behind him those are the players Mourinho chose so when does it become a Mourinho problem instead of using Pogba as a scapegoat?
@thebiasedreview5432
@thebiasedreview5432 6 жыл бұрын
@@Norris1st It is a problem if you don't have good enough defenders. Everyone thinks mourinho signed all these players. No. It was all Woodward's signings. Sanchez, lukaku, bailly, lindelof. He wanted aldeweireld last year, but they signed lindelof. Mou wanted perisic, instead they signed sanchez this winter. If he doesn't have his type of players the team is gonna fail.
@thebiasedreview5432
@thebiasedreview5432 6 жыл бұрын
@@Norris1st Go and see Woodward's press conference after this window. See Mourinho's response. He said I had no involvement in the signing of players. That's the problem. I am not saying mou is the best, but if you take him as a manager for your club and want to succeed, you need to sign his type of players.
@vistagifted7519
@vistagifted7519 6 жыл бұрын
I agree with Craig; pogba hasn’t played to the best of his ability; if he was playing like de Bruyne i would back him over jose.
@deadlydimitarr
@deadlydimitarr 6 жыл бұрын
Pogba is ahead of KdB though
@jamesharrywaters
@jamesharrywaters 6 жыл бұрын
Vista Gifted Pogba has started this season on fire and had a better goal per game and assist per game ratio than KDB last season
@_bakz_3682
@_bakz_3682 6 жыл бұрын
Pogba 4 goals, 2 assists in 7 matches. 4 MOTM awards and he hasn't been good? You're a clown🤣😭😭
@sachinchauhan2700
@sachinchauhan2700 6 жыл бұрын
@@_bakz_3682 out of 4 goals 3 are penalties big Pogba fan but last season kdb was amazing
@_bakz_3682
@_bakz_3682 6 жыл бұрын
@@sachinchauhan2700 who cares, he's a midfielder and 4 MOTM awards show that he's been your best player
@sullemanismaelghanty5006
@sullemanismaelghanty5006 6 жыл бұрын
Despite knowing that both Bellamy and Murphy were Liverpool players, the analysis they made is comprehensible! I agree 100% with Bellamy who said that private matters should be kept in house and that a professional football player should concentrate more on his football rather than the social media!!!! As a UNITED fan, I sincerely hope this situation get resolved quickly whether concerning Mourinho or Pogba.
@timmytime3448
@timmytime3448 6 жыл бұрын
Bellamy is a Newcastle player. He filled a gap and Liverpool filled a gap in his wallet at the end of his career. Stop being so ignorant 🤣
@HonestFootballPodcast
@HonestFootballPodcast 6 жыл бұрын
This is getting dull now, there's been another night of fantastic football at many levels since and this is still the only story that gets talked about!
@progressivelife841
@progressivelife841 6 жыл бұрын
@Suraj's Opinion is Better no
@berbasilk5906
@berbasilk5906 6 жыл бұрын
@@progressivelife841 Yes he is
@gokulbalakrishnan7982
@gokulbalakrishnan7982 6 жыл бұрын
@Suraj's Opinion is Better Chelsea planet. He is the most onform player at the moment. Lets judge him after the season
@lusciouslou250272159
@lusciouslou250272159 6 жыл бұрын
It's kind of a big deal. Pogba is the most expensive player bought by an English club, Mou is one of the best managers in the history of British football, and it's happening at Man U. This relationship could torpedo the whole season.
@TyroOBT
@TyroOBT 6 жыл бұрын
The Honest Football Podcast why did you even click on the video?
@KabzieMusic
@KabzieMusic 6 жыл бұрын
Mourinho is poison. Never leaves clubs on good terms.
@AdryanFick
@AdryanFick 6 жыл бұрын
Inter Milan, Porto?.. not a Jose fan, just saying.
@rayist1520
@rayist1520 6 жыл бұрын
@@AdryanFick yeah but Madrid Chelsea I'm not a Mourinho hater just saying
@UFRLF1Viva
@UFRLF1Viva 5 жыл бұрын
Sure lmfao. Pogba 🐍🐍🐍
@awfan221
@awfan221 6 жыл бұрын
I agree about the world cup comments. Pogba was good, but he wasn't what many United and French Frances were describing him as. France themselves were efficient, but they weren't dominant that much, and in the moments they were, it was usually due to Mbappe and Kante.
@user-pd6lv3km9t
@user-pd6lv3km9t 6 жыл бұрын
U didnt even talk about the stripping of vice captaincy
@WILLis678
@WILLis678 6 жыл бұрын
Deserved
@AffirmationHUB23
@AffirmationHUB23 6 жыл бұрын
Wait is Bellamy actually questioning Pogba’s ability. Bellamy you’re a good analyst mate but questioning is ability is a no no ☝🏾
@MrGts92
@MrGts92 6 жыл бұрын
Why? What makes Pogba do good that you criticise his ability? Seeing that Bellamy is right and Modric was the best midfielder in teh tournament.
@Sports-Made
@Sports-Made 6 жыл бұрын
Gunners Millennial I know right.... hahah. Wat a joke.
@pepesmoov
@pepesmoov 6 жыл бұрын
_Millennial_ This says it all really, but yes his ability can be questioned, he isn’t the best midfielder in the league, so why act like it.
@Sports-Made
@Sports-Made 6 жыл бұрын
Vince Ritchie he's not far off though.... People need to give Pogba credit where it is due and stop searching for the little negatives to bring him down.. Lukaku is playing 90 minutes almost every game, why isn't he getting blame for his underperformance every single game???
@debarchan123
@debarchan123 6 жыл бұрын
Exactly, I am a Juventus fan and have seen how Pogba played in that team. I don't know what Bellamy has seen in him that he's saying Pogba is not world class. He can score goals, create goals, good in the air, can carry the ball forward, can tackle better than most people give him credit for and still the epl does not know his value. The Juventus players have stated that they were surprised that ManU allowed him to go on a free after watching him in their 1st training session. That says a lot when players like Buffon and Pirlo say that.
@aquilarossa5191
@aquilarossa5191 6 жыл бұрын
Fergie let him go for a reason. The Kid was playing up and he is doing it again. I also think the biggest problem with MUFC is not Jose or Pogba etc, because the football has been flat since Moyes. I think Fergie retiring ripped the heart out of the club, because he was so influential there. Filling a void like that is very different to replacing managers at struggling clubs etc. Liverpool are a good example of that. They still have not recovered their dominance of the 70s and early 80s. MUFC also went through that after Matt Busby, but we were lucky the club found Fergie and had another era of dominance. All I want from Jose is for him to steady the ship, develop players, and keep us competitive. I want him to hold the fort. I do not expect him to be the next great.
@ronakkanabar1668
@ronakkanabar1668 6 жыл бұрын
Aquila Rossa well said. Fully agree. Finally some decent comments………
@denverthugget1
@denverthugget1 6 жыл бұрын
Can we please just get rid of Mourinho? Nobody wants to play for him.. And the players that do, their club will never sell to him. Especially to us without charging arm and leg for 30 year olds.. Smh.
@deadlydimitarr
@deadlydimitarr 6 жыл бұрын
Only cretins don't want to play for Mourinho. It's just a shame players don't want to progress their game and want titled handed to them
@Casanova966
@Casanova966 6 жыл бұрын
@@deadlydimitarr Stupid comment. He's miserable, plays awful defensive-minded football, and has terrible man-management. Dickhead.
@tombariz8260
@tombariz8260 6 жыл бұрын
Mourhino can run his mouth talking about his players while they are in the world cup but Pogba is wrong for speaking up. Now Pogba is not good, Mourinho tactics are trash, is Pogba good ? are you asking the same of Alexis who hasn't scored a goal in over 6 months but is a starter making 400 000 a week, Defensive football won't win you the title, you need a well-balanced team. Criticizing all your players from doesn't make any sense who wants to play for a coach like that, We seen this movie in Chelsea like 3 years ago they went from not playing for Mourhino to winning the PL under Conte
@duncanblade
@duncanblade 6 жыл бұрын
I live outside England now - but this makes me miss a good conversation with the lads. Such a good combo of logic, sense, camaraderie, even humour and it never gets out of hand
@breuntphiri4654
@breuntphiri4654 6 жыл бұрын
Hearing old men talking about Instagram made me roll my eyes so much
@edwardjones2202
@edwardjones2202 6 жыл бұрын
Hearing kids talk about rolling their eyes makes me grateful for social media. How else could we stay informed about such important developments?
@KAI-jl1ph
@KAI-jl1ph 6 жыл бұрын
Man Utd players played exceptionally well for their countries in the WC eg Pogba, Lukaku, Fellaini but came back to underperform for Utd...Meaning Mourinho is the problem not players
@jamesharrywaters
@jamesharrywaters 6 жыл бұрын
Easy - Sack Mourinho Created a negative atmosphere in the squad, picking on Pogba despite the fact he's been United's best player so far this season!
@jamesharrywaters
@jamesharrywaters 6 жыл бұрын
TxmLeung18 Lmao yes he has. 4 goals 2 assists in 7 games, 4 MOTM awards Which United player has been better then? None
@machinereds1621
@machinereds1621 6 жыл бұрын
'José Hater' I will never get sacked
@TheOblake2
@TheOblake2 6 жыл бұрын
And u say that like we're half way through the season, not even out of September yet, players need to respect the manager, as i recall even sir alex had problems with players *bootgate
@skobird2732
@skobird2732 6 жыл бұрын
He did the same to Hazard... he hates players bigger than him
@skn6070
@skn6070 6 жыл бұрын
@@jamesharrywaters You were literally saying that you'll back him after the Tottenham game lol.
@seun0125
@seun0125 6 жыл бұрын
Lmao Sky Sports insist on having former Liverpool players comment on a Man Utd situation. Call me crazy, but maybe they could ask pundits who WANT Man Utd to be successful to comment on the situation.
@gdes4063
@gdes4063 6 жыл бұрын
'Why are they not feeding me the propaganda I want?'
@tamim3463
@tamim3463 6 жыл бұрын
Agree but in general I would only accept Jamie carager, Ian Wright and Danny Higginbotham
@Jim90117
@Jim90117 6 жыл бұрын
People are capable of being professional and critical despite any bias they may have, you know that right?
@DanceySteveYNWA
@DanceySteveYNWA 6 жыл бұрын
Crazy 😜
@paulie-g
@paulie-g 6 жыл бұрын
They book guests well ahead of filming. They can try to get appropriate pundits on when they know what the bulk of the discussion is going to be about, but with such agenda items that arise because of happenings that day or the day before, it's simply not possible. I happen to rate both Bellamy and Murphy as pundits. I also rate GNev as a pundit despite his ManU affiliation and am always interested in hearing his views on Liverpool, especially lately ;)
@jdogg5771
@jdogg5771 6 жыл бұрын
I agree with Craig. What does Pogba offer besides strength? What makes him special? Pogba is nowhere near Milner, Fernandinho, Casemiro, Kroos, Thiago, Hazard, De Bruyne, Isco, Modric, Silva. What are his skills?
@Kingforhim988
@Kingforhim988 6 жыл бұрын
As if you’ve added onto the list Milner and Fernandinho and people are taking you seriously. He has more natural ability than almost half of the people on that list and the only thing stopping him from being seen as the worlds greatest is a manager who doesn’t belittle his achievements to boost his ego. I admit he hasn’t helped in self sometimes but tbf no united player has performed to the highest level apart from the goalkeeper
@1jourdi
@1jourdi 6 жыл бұрын
ThisIsGrayFox the fact that u said Milner,Fernandinho and casemiro.....means that u don’t warrant an answer, u know ntn about football if u make a comment like that
@j.3o21
@j.3o21 6 жыл бұрын
Jose ran out of deflections. Refs, Eva, opposition, refs again, opposition manager, fixtures.... Now his digging the players out.
@slickswings
@slickswings 6 жыл бұрын
Mourinho not only to blame for dragging United down, he will also be fully at fault when United lose all their best young talent like Pogba, Martial, and Rashford when they leave because of him. 2 full seasons and a 3rd summer transfer window yet he still can’t get the team to function properly. He no longer has a valid excuse for underperformance.
@kevin90210uk
@kevin90210uk 6 жыл бұрын
Bellamy was a great player
@jeffreynanatakyicollins101
@jeffreynanatakyicollins101 6 жыл бұрын
Social media has ruined football
@augh9736
@augh9736 6 жыл бұрын
Bellamy is right; Kante > Pogba, and made pogbust look good in russia
@kingxoriginal9376
@kingxoriginal9376 6 жыл бұрын
Thats what you're DMs are supposed to do? The DMs are suposed to cover for Pogba's inadequacy's as a CM.Thats how every good team works essentially; everyone builds of eachothers strengths and covers their respective weaknesses. Simple football fundamentals which you can't comprehend.
@madzangels
@madzangels 6 жыл бұрын
pogbust..........................really
@mukuzChannel
@mukuzChannel 6 жыл бұрын
Except in the Final (when it mattered most), Kante fell ill and Pogba's form actually went up. But hey, lets ignore facts and reality to the sake of agendas.
@augh9736
@augh9736 6 жыл бұрын
KingXoriginal Oh i get it, when he looks around at man united and doesnt see a kante covering for him, hes got to put in a shift and track back
@augh9736
@augh9736 6 жыл бұрын
madzangels but pogdabs were cool?
@jessejames9149
@jessejames9149 6 жыл бұрын
Manchester better sign Zidane before someone else does!
@sljones9103
@sljones9103 6 жыл бұрын
Zidane is not the answer laurent blanc is
@seaneoin6648
@seaneoin6648 6 жыл бұрын
Don't think that will happen somehow don't think he would have the slightest interest in managing a big club again maybe the French team why would he walk away otherwise
@jessejames9149
@jessejames9149 6 жыл бұрын
@@sljones9103 I'm not going to disagree with you on that BUT Zidane is a coach for the players! If he goes just think about the people that would want to play for him! Also I don't think Laurent Blanc will be a good fit. He had a bad ass team all the years he was their. PSG always lost in the quarter or semis! PSG champions of league 1 lost to a strughling Man City in 4th place in champions league! Again my opinion I'm no expert!
@Ray-gz5wh
@Ray-gz5wh 6 жыл бұрын
I can really see Zidane jumping for joy at the thought of managing Fellaini, Lukaku, Shaw & Jones 😂
@dannyd96
@dannyd96 6 жыл бұрын
Jesse Hernandez Roy Keane. Simple as that.
@gavlatennis2824
@gavlatennis2824 6 жыл бұрын
Great debate by both, really well prompted by Jeff. 10/10
@goncaloferreira6429
@goncaloferreira6429 6 жыл бұрын
people are freaking out. pogba went too far? punish him indoors. the squad is not good enough. the coach is not good enough but i dont think sacking hm mid season is right. the board should have given the coach the money/players he needed. at the moment united should cool down and focus on playing football, improving what can be improved and pehaps putting the chips on a good champions league.
@mrjones29
@mrjones29 6 жыл бұрын
Yep, I agree with you Danny. Mourinho knew of these cameras on them at the training ground. Definitely deliberate. I'd like both of them to piss off by season's end. Of all the major professional world sports, football is really up there being so incredibly childish. Along with the man-babies of Formula One, they are the top two.
@eldio2124
@eldio2124 6 жыл бұрын
Mourinho has lost his balls. Can’t believe he’s letting Pogba disrespect him like this. Pogba must be dropped
@jamesharrywaters
@jamesharrywaters 6 жыл бұрын
JD 1 Pogba hasn't disrespected Mourinho at all, he said we should attack, and as a player in the team he's damn right to say it Mourinho would be mad to drop Pogba when he's been our best player this season
@rob8311
@rob8311 6 жыл бұрын
James Waters no he doesnt, I would drop him in an instant because it undermines the club
@SameerAhmed-bh2wn
@SameerAhmed-bh2wn 6 жыл бұрын
Pogba done nothing wat did he so post an ig pic and now he’s getting screwed at jus because Jose butthurt that he lost
@_bakz_3682
@_bakz_3682 6 жыл бұрын
Pogba- "I think we should play attacking football when we're at home, in front of our fans" The fans- "How dare he criticise Jose. He's disrespectful to the club. Overrated donkey. Sell him. No one is bigger than the club. This is the problem with modern footballers" Comedy club lmao😂😭😭
@_bakz_3682
@_bakz_3682 6 жыл бұрын
@@jamesharrywaters United fans are retarded
@jimmyleo7786
@jimmyleo7786 6 жыл бұрын
pogba is still a world class player he didn't get the love he desve from this manager and now for man u it's like chose a player or a manager situation . in my opinoin if zezu come to united and pogba will become a same world cup player again .
@boyanhristov9933
@boyanhristov9933 6 жыл бұрын
I don't know how Mourinho manages to split the team in groups and creates a ton of drama in every big club he has been to (no disrespect to Porto, but you get my point). He done it in Real M with the Spanish players, Inter with Thiago Motta. Maicon and Eto'o, Chelsea and the whole team including the medical stuff... I wonder how long will people back him up, isn't clear enough already, he must be sacked ASAP. I don't agree with Pogba commenting left and right in the media, but I believe a lot of players are also disappointed from the playing style and their tactical instructions. If Mourinho stays and Pogba leaves, he won't be the only one, Martial,Sanchez,Rashford,Smalling,Jones,Bailly and probably Luke Shaw will departure by the end of the season as well, which will lead to another 400-500 millions on transfers. Mourinho will always find someone to take the blame about his results and that is clear as day. I still don't understand how the board and some of the fans let Jose walk away very easy after his comments after the game with Sevilla. I really hope Jose will understand that he is not the man for this club and resigns very soon.
@Mad_Intellect
@Mad_Intellect 6 жыл бұрын
Bruh Porto is a big club smh
@kaffraraffin3574
@kaffraraffin3574 6 жыл бұрын
Some very frank insights into both Bellamy and Murphy's careers. Both speak fairly and honestly.
@razer0072073
@razer0072073 6 жыл бұрын
Pogba is 25 now are Man united going to win or challenge for the league any time soon? no, that team needs major reconstruction and will take at least a five years to fix Pogba will be 29 by the time they're ready to challenge.
@eliascfc4369
@eliascfc4369 6 жыл бұрын
The_Best_ever_Episode_of_ The Debate | Bellamy & Murphy_Are_Amazing.
@Jim90117
@Jim90117 6 жыл бұрын
Murphy and Bellamy really good duo, really insightful into the football world
@sibusisogift1934
@sibusisogift1934 6 жыл бұрын
The one thing En gland people are good at is talking, no wonder we haven't seen the best player from them for so long. Pogba is good too good for playing what Mourinho wants that's why he is frustrated people blame him for not scoring and assisting much but yet when he tells them that is because of the defensive mind of mourinho by saying attack attack you still cannot get the message he is sending that he is not free enough,
@machinereds1621
@machinereds1621 6 жыл бұрын
I'm glad everyone has saw backstabber face when I told him truth in front of cameras. No one mess with José Why Always Me!
@M-O-H-A-Y
@M-O-H-A-Y 6 жыл бұрын
José Why Always Me! No one except Hazard, Fabregas and co. It can only go the same way for Maureen again
@machinereds1621
@machinereds1621 6 жыл бұрын
@@M-O-H-A-Y Sorry but Hazard is overrated his goal came from Alberto Moreno worst Lb in league. So don't get carried away you silly plastic man.
@M-O-H-A-Y
@M-O-H-A-Y 6 жыл бұрын
José Why Always Me! So an overrated Hazard managed to get Maureen out of Chelsea. What does that say? What about Ronaldo and Sergio Ramos vs Maureen in Real Madrid?? I think you are Deluded if you think Maureen will be here after this season or if United will sell Pogba for cheap because Maureen’s ego has been hurt.
@YT_MADFUTpacks
@YT_MADFUTpacks 6 жыл бұрын
"Didn't have the courage? I didn't have the luxury!" - classic Geoff!
@Junior-zf7yy
@Junior-zf7yy 6 жыл бұрын
Let’s just imagine Pogba was playing in Man City or Barcelona or even Chelsea. Where they play positive possession football Pogba would be bagging 10 goals and 15 assists a season. Let’s also not forget that Pogba has been Man Utd’s best player winning 4MOTM scoring 4 goals an 2 assists in 7 games. And this fool wants to doubt pogbas ability. I’m so sleep. This guy asked ‘is he really that good’ if I kick him in the throat he will know.
@thebiasedreview5432
@thebiasedreview5432 6 жыл бұрын
3 penalties out of 4. And he missed a penalty, gave away the ball against brighton and wolves that led to goals, and dropped points.
@oghaze9318
@oghaze9318 6 жыл бұрын
Modric was world class under Redknapp, don't blame the manager for Pogba's inability to produce the goods
@MaxCooperJones
@MaxCooperJones 6 жыл бұрын
the difference? Mou may be a failure. But Pogba is a traitor. he sold us out making those public statements time and again. he mocked Mou which is the equivalent of mocking us fans and the club. he made us into a laughing stock amongst rival clubs' fans. Pogba is a rat. Never work with a rat.
@sanietj7626
@sanietj7626 6 жыл бұрын
Is he prepared to run back for that ball, stay in position and press high? If not pep wouldn’t have him in the team
@francisfuhy
@francisfuhy 6 жыл бұрын
Bellami is right in that if you play with Kante you're probably gonna look good. People also need to take into account Pogba's group stage games when judging his world cup performances (he was a non-factor the first 2 games, if I remember correctly). Was he the most influential in that France team? No by miles. Kante, Mbappe, Griezmann, Matuidi, Varane, Umtiti, even Giroud was very underrated and played his part well. Maybe Bellami is right, maybe Pogba is not that good..?
@callumbrown8970
@callumbrown8970 6 жыл бұрын
as a liverpool fan, i’m shocked how you can even criticise Pogbas talent. He is world class and you can’t deny that, do you think De Bruyne would flourish in that system? I don’t think most players would
@JayP-vh9wc
@JayP-vh9wc 6 жыл бұрын
I love how Carrick just left the second Pogba came by. Jm was planning some fireworks or at least the guy with the pony tail was
@jhm.9997
@jhm.9997 6 жыл бұрын
Mourinho knew the cameras was there and said the comment on purpose Pogba spoke out and Mourinho did not like it. Pogba does not want to leave. Mourinho is looking for someone to blame for his rubbish tactics because next he will go for Lukaku then Sanchez etc. He never takes the blame for his actions
@Theotan1191
@Theotan1191 6 жыл бұрын
Look at Hazards numbers the same year this happened at Chelsea. The players were ready to organize a walk-out in the locker room. The decrease in form from these players is a direct result in Mourniho's mental state. Hes unhealthy, controlling, and trying to gaslight his players, rather than build them up. He makes little sense in press conferences and is uncomfortable. Transmitting terrible energy onto his players and at least Pogba is bringing light to it. Best comment in this video comes at 13:37.
@Vermilion2049
@Vermilion2049 6 жыл бұрын
I think Pogba has every right to send out a tweet like that, like any fan would. Mourinho should get his act together and make United play the right way
@Mayancinnamon
@Mayancinnamon 6 жыл бұрын
I’m sick of hearing about this.
@mikeheap7978
@mikeheap7978 6 жыл бұрын
City fans been telling their United m8's for years this was going to happen....United are 300-500 million + new manager away from competing, over 8 first team players out of contract this year. This is gonna take some years to catch up and zero progress has been made since Fergie left 6 years ago.
@realtalk3154
@realtalk3154 6 жыл бұрын
say Craig who was not exactly a polite good boy during his playing days...people already forgot?
@Apollyon-sz9sn
@Apollyon-sz9sn 6 жыл бұрын
Huge respect for Bellamy for not wanting social media.
@KeithHiew
@KeithHiew 6 жыл бұрын
I never thought I'd enjoy listening to Craig Bellamy..... but I did.
@cefballer101
@cefballer101 6 жыл бұрын
Since Mourinho and Pogba have been at the club, Mou has defended Pogba repeatedly in the press and spoken about how happy he is with his performances. Pogba has created this situation with the help of Pimenta and Raiola to get his move to Barcelona/Real Madrid. It's really that simple.
@eltonappie7125
@eltonappie7125 6 жыл бұрын
If this was Mouinho's first problem with a player i would understand but he did this at every club - Ronaldo, Hazard, Costa and now Pogba (not sure about his time in Italy) But the evidence are there - I always think Mourinho should go!
@falaflani4831
@falaflani4831 6 жыл бұрын
i remember bellamy was saying the same thing about hazard during mourinho's fiasco at chelsea
@markoglazersout611
@markoglazersout611 6 жыл бұрын
Forget Pogba, José is the source of this all. His football is terrible! Out!
@arrmahn3442
@arrmahn3442 2 жыл бұрын
If you said straightforward powerplay, there should be only one winner which is the manager But they keep losing it They keep losing it, of course! Looking it back today, those downfall banter times were gold but felt sad for Jose how it got ended! But impressed by my boy Bellers wow, entering management years, have hugely grown maturity and professionalism
@kofiamo2138
@kofiamo2138 6 жыл бұрын
Mourhino is not playing pogba right. Pogba is a talented player but mourhino style of play has kept pogba of the pitch.. Mourhino should understand his players and play them which position they feel confident...
@Vermilion2049
@Vermilion2049 6 жыл бұрын
Why can't players speak up to the manager about playing style? The players are on the pitch to do the job, if they are not happy with the playing style think it is not working, you should always make the manager know. How can a club do good if players keep being unhappy with the manager? It is a game of 11 players on the pitch and players have to be on the same wavelength. That is the problem with United at the moment.
@SofaKingSuite10
@SofaKingSuite10 6 жыл бұрын
Jose lost his touch. Chelsea was right to let him go.
@Muistimetalli
@Muistimetalli 6 жыл бұрын
I agree that Chelsea was right to let him go, being in a relegation battle around Christmas, and the stuff with the physio made him deserve the sacking. However, I believe that Mourinho can still do it with the right club and the right players. He'd be good at club like Juventus or Atletico Madrid that are used to playing defensive football, and actually have good defenders. United have bad defenders (except arguably Valencia) and their tradition is to attack, so it's not a good fit.
@Chance007
@Chance007 6 жыл бұрын
Chelsea let everyone go.
@Muistimetalli
@Muistimetalli 6 жыл бұрын
You'd let Pep go too if he made the physio of Man city quit and had you at 17th in December with the whole squad against him. Also who is to blame for Chelsea letting go of Mo Salah, De Bruyne and Lukaku? Indeed, it's Mourinho.
@zayedwarsama2817
@zayedwarsama2817 6 жыл бұрын
Muistimetalli Muistimetalli but at Chelsea the decision to sign and sell a player ultimately relies on the board even mourinho in his first spell at Chelsea didn't want to buy shevchenko but the board wanted him mourinho in most of the games didn't play him because he didn't fit in his tactics and knew he will flop at Chelsea but the board didn't agree with him and sacked him and Conte had a similar situation as well when he sold Costa ( which was actually conte's fault) Conte gave the board a list of strikers to replace costa. the board went out and signed morata when he wasn't even a 3rd choice signing (Lukaku being 1st choice at that time)
@Muistimetalli
@Muistimetalli 6 жыл бұрын
fair enough, but Mourinho didn't give a chance to De Bruyne, Salah or Lukaku. So it's because of him that the players wanted to leave. so I agree with the signing part, but not completely on the selling.
@wengkaitham4872
@wengkaitham4872 6 жыл бұрын
As a Utd fan, first to admit we're missing leader-type players like Murphy & Bellamy...
@tylermorton5910
@tylermorton5910 6 жыл бұрын
Pogba has the two most energy filled midfielders in France... kante and matudi, his discipline attention is no where near the level it needs to be in man utd.
@mayorityz
@mayorityz 6 жыл бұрын
there is no way the other players don't have issues with Mou. Martial, Mata, Rashford, Valencia, all the defender, Luke, maybe Lukaku... He has been beaten them down, not used them well, not used some in there preferred positions, had to work with some players he sent away from his former club. Honestly, Pogba may just be the most vocal of the group. Mou's style is old, and he has a history of clashing with the biggest players in the teams he has managed. Pogba might proved be too much to handle. Both of them myt leave.
@Danny-sv4xu
@Danny-sv4xu 6 жыл бұрын
Pogba thinks he’s better than he is. Bellamy is right.
@pg3762
@pg3762 6 жыл бұрын
Danny 906 Bellamy should know, the same could have been said about himself
@carbon9357
@carbon9357 6 жыл бұрын
Bellamy thought he was 10 times better than he was
@WILLis678
@WILLis678 6 жыл бұрын
Pogba is a top 3 midfielder mate. He has every right to think he's better than he is.
@abstractphase3037
@abstractphase3037 6 жыл бұрын
WILL nah.
@Danny-sv4xu
@Danny-sv4xu 6 жыл бұрын
WILL disagree. Kroos, Modric, Verratti and Kante are all better
@qTions
@qTions 6 жыл бұрын
Here an opinion that I share. There are plenty of troubles in Man Udt that are in the shadows. Jose was always a great coach, I followed him when he managed Leiria (Portugal) then he could bring that team to almost top place. Then Porto.... He really did something with teams with very lack starts... Actually he was the responsible for the rise of many of them. Man Utd is not as well the same team that Sir. Alex Fergunson left, and the structure also not. Do you think that all coaches that passed in Manchester in the recent years are bad and the only source of problems of the club? Something is wrong . Somebody that knows Mourinho knows that if he gots what he needs he delivers. If there are problems in the shadows, like happend for example in Chelsea, then do not expect that he is the savior.
@no9scrum
@no9scrum 6 жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more with the sentiment that Pogba wasn't amazing in the world cup... he didn't drag France to a world cup victory like Ronaldo did in the Euro's for Portugal. He was part of a very very good team!
@Ep1cure
@Ep1cure 6 жыл бұрын
Wasn't there a similar situation a couple of decades ago between Alex Ferguson and Roy Keane. Similar position in the table at this stage, and they win nearly everything by the end of the season. Sometimes the player/manager relationship is to light each other's fire. I'm not a Man Utd fan, it's just an observation...
@Ep1cure
@Ep1cure 6 жыл бұрын
Though, of course, a difference is that Roy Keane was very committed to Utd.(?)
@DecourceyOrED
@DecourceyOrED 6 жыл бұрын
Why can't they question him in public? Why? Because it moh or because "youre playing for utd" nah drop all that bullshit. Moh is getting everything he deserves, any of those players should feel right to speak up about that negative cess pit of arrogance they have as a manager especially after how he has PUBLICLY dug holes for how many of those utd players how many times?
@PauloCesar-mo7mx
@PauloCesar-mo7mx 6 жыл бұрын
The buck stops at the top -Woodward. He gave Jose extension last January 2018, then you have to back manager. Woodward then didn't in the summer when United clearly needed better players in problem positions to challenge City, Liverpool and even Spurs and Chelsea. Dumping Mourinho will, overall, not make United better than those 4 clubs. Ditching Pogba will not make United better than those 4 clubs. Woodward (and Glazers) priority is money and marketing, and this disfunction will not change with choosing either Mourinho or Pogba. It's a systemic malaise at Old Trafford, and the media doesn't help because a dumpster fire sells more papers and content and hits than talking about underdog smaller clubs or the cash infused top 4 clubs.
@mpenduloemmanuelcibi2602
@mpenduloemmanuelcibi2602 6 жыл бұрын
Pogba's comments were out of line, but Mou is no longer not what he was. United need to make plans for the future!
@TheMeloman79
@TheMeloman79 6 жыл бұрын
Pogba was very good at the World Cup and inside the dressing room he was so important in impacting that belief to his teammates to go and win it. Let’s not belittle what he did because of what is happening at Man Utd
@mikatteba225
@mikatteba225 6 жыл бұрын
Mourinho had clash with Ramos, Modric Casillas and Ronaldo when he was in Real, I mean who can question their work ethic???
@pcbradley841
@pcbradley841 6 жыл бұрын
Mourinho instigated the situation, he could easily have waited for the cameras to stop recording
@rohitr9400
@rohitr9400 6 жыл бұрын
Every player with an ego will say the same thing Pogba said. Last season, when Hazard was underperforming while Conte was in charge, he said that he prefers an attacking style of football. This season, he is shining at Chelsea because of the Sarriball. Jose's football just doesn't suit Pogba and his frequent public bashing isn't helping him either..
@rish2289
@rish2289 6 жыл бұрын
Craig nailed it on Pogkid world cup
@stivoboss7723
@stivoboss7723 6 жыл бұрын
Jose Mourinho is a big and good manager we all knows that he has managed many big players whom they won big trophy c7 eto'o etc we never hed all this kind of problems so if a young player like pogba doesn't wants to play pls time to sale him. Manchester United is bigger than any player or manager. One thing I know about pogba he talks to much he carry himself up to much and the world cup is helping him thinks his more than Manchester United
@87jamaine
@87jamaine 6 жыл бұрын
Jose said he was going to build the team around pogba if that’s the case he should know his weakness and strengths let pogba play pass and score lukaku is left footed benjani
@RenNStimpy80
@RenNStimpy80 6 жыл бұрын
Don’t agree. Bypassing your manager happens in every job. In a company you have HR there to settle differences between you and your direct boss. If players have no outlet it is a broken system.
@stuartbashford3352
@stuartbashford3352 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you! He’s been hidden in too many teams and needs to pull his figure out and start having meaningful performances on the field not on IG.
@A_Pt_9298
@A_Pt_9298 6 жыл бұрын
I get the feeling that players are now just playing like the manager tells them to play, and nothing outside of that, if it doesn't work its the manager's fault, rather than the don't have the heart for club, the players and the fans. That's what i understand from watching certain players from our club, it just doesn't look right, something just doesn't look right, and given JM's track record of the way he plays, i wouldn't put it past him... And by the way, would Juventus take Pogba on, even without Pirlo behind him? I'm not so sure... I think they just want a bargain for him and that's why they were in for him, they've done it with numerous players, all they care about is making money, not always trophies, Ronaldo was really a bargain, considering how much he brings to the club, social media etc..,
@ChimaChindaDev
@ChimaChindaDev 6 жыл бұрын
I'm really surprised that Mourinho's taking this from Pogba. He needs to relegate him to the bench full-time for at least the next 5 - 10 games.
@Resonance971
@Resonance971 6 жыл бұрын
Wow, to think players with their experience are actually blaming pogba for that goal on wolves, like how can someone see all that time the defenders had to retrieve the ball back and block the cross and then blame it on pogba
@SANTOSHGC1990
@SANTOSHGC1990 6 жыл бұрын
Showing the football field,periera ,Shaw and then laughing.Thats a clear sign language used by Pogba to mock his own team mates.Why no one sees this way is a problem that I don’t understand.
@mosespelican3507
@mosespelican3507 6 жыл бұрын
How come no one is saying “Maybe Pogba has tried talking to Mou behind the scenes and didn’t succeed...not like it’s the first season of this...this is the 3rd season, Maybe this is the last resort Pogba is using!
@ssforlifem6637
@ssforlifem6637 6 жыл бұрын
Danny murphy a true intellect and Craig Bellamy is logical and makes points that are good morally... Jose's knows exactly what he's doing he is far from naive and in this instance whats in the dark will come to light but it might be after Pogba or Jose has left Man Utd
@IceCoolMrSanz
@IceCoolMrSanz 6 жыл бұрын
It doesn’t really matter who goes first i mean even if Pogba leaves, it won’t be long before Mourinho is out the door. Pogba will leave for Barcelona and Mourinho will get sacked.
@darkstrider1270
@darkstrider1270 6 жыл бұрын
why cant the players go out and say that, the fans would want to know whats going on, its not like the manager tells the truth so.
@timmytime3448
@timmytime3448 6 жыл бұрын
What about Antonio Valencia, the senior captain, liking a post calling for mourinho to be sacked? Pogba isn't bigger than man united, but his close personal relationship with the players is bigger, the marketing and merchandise he brings is bigger than mourinho, mourinho bitter, he showed that with his snidey comments at every single press conference since last February, with his snidey comments directed at pogba on the training ground. Murphy is right, mourinho needs to grow a pair and sit down and talk to pogba instead of continuing this pathetic "the media is always against me" stance when publicly humiliating his own players... "He's gonna be the best player in the world and im gonna make it happen" he said the same about hazard, months before it fell apart at Chelsea. Mourinho is driven by ego, he's the selfish one in all this not pogba, he was unfairly treated and sold by man united and he was overjoyed to return, mourinho needs to respect that, he is an idol to some of the younger players and along with Zlatan he built a brilliant relationship with them on and off the pitch, mourinho hasn't got it in him to understand or utilitise this power, instead he takes it as a threat and lashes out... Whats happening at man united is embarrassing, and if they sell pogba it will only continue... How many times has he publicly insulted Shaw saying he isn't good enough etc, only to then rely on him due to injury and see him put in MotM performances? Of course that's embarrassing for him, and he stays bitter till the end. Just like at real Madrid, just like at Chelsea.2... He can only work with submissive players that don't have a high profile, that's why he was so successful at Porto and his first spell at Chelsea, a bunch of yes men just happy to be there, as soon as you question his boring style of football and negative tactics, he acts like a school girl... Im a Liverpool fan but a football fan first, mourinho needs to leave, Mino Raola needs to leave, for the sake of english football. Man city's billions and klopps humble genius can't carry the weight of a nation, Chelsea and arsenal are rebuilding, Tottenham are a deer in traffic lights, wheres the other "big team"? Noone knows cuz mourinho is too busy picking wars with people who question his poor decisions... On paper they have the second best squad in the league, add the manager and his philosophy, they're gonna struggle to keep up with Watford and Wolves... It isnt a question of mourinho or pogba who should go, its a question of mourinho, when will he go. Whether pogba goes or not... He sold lukaku for kissing a penalty, he arrived in England and said Mata (most assists over two seasons at that time) wasn't good enough and sold him. Now lukaku is his only striker and Mata is his only creative midfielder, sat on the bench? It's ridiculous, he's ridiculous... And the narrative of complaining he hasn't got defenders is pathetic. You took the managers job with smalling Jones and rojo - you thought they were good enough, then you bought bailey and lindlelof - if out of those five you haven't got two defenders good enough, it is solely the fault of Jose mourinho... Look what klopp achieved with lovren, skrtel and klavan... We've barely conceded any goals in 2018 and most of that time was wit calamitous Karius between the posts. Blaming other people for your lack of competency is a joke and man united is a mockery atm, i pity loyal supporters who actually side with mourinho because they're blinded by their own passion and fail to see... If a bus driver crashes a bus it isn't the passengers fault. Pogba is a passenger who doesn't want to stay seated, he's also a celebrity with a big following and respect within the other passengers, a smart man would speak to pogba and get the players on board his sinking ship, a bitter manager will try to play 1920s style propaganda games with the media and pick fights with ed Woodward before taking any responsibility for the mess he has created by himself... Lucky for real Madrid they had bigger players and less on the line to lose when they sacked him or this would of happened at real too, just as it did at Chelsea... If mourinho was manager of Bournemouth or Burnley he'd be smiling in the media, playing decent football and pushing for a place in Europe. He's not a top manager, he's a tactician who had a good season then got lucky riding the wave... Game over
@othisa1811
@othisa1811 6 жыл бұрын
If players can't question tactics publicly, what gives the manager the right to question players publicly?
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