"How can this happen to me?" | Captain Ahab: The Story of Dave Stieb, Part 2 | Dorktown

[@SummoningSalt]

This is how you tell a story, folks.

[@paulsletten8985]

Big fan, SS.

[@KiloOne]

Great minds often run in the same circles. Here, they’ve collided head on like two freight trains that got shunted onto the same track by a tired night watchman

[@bell.with.one.e]

Praise from Caesar.

[@MrKDOG96]

Big fan SS thanks for all the videos.

[@bananacat3109]

these are big words coming for you

[@somenobodyaspresident]

Gotta hand it to Jon, a movie about Lonnie Smith would be Pretty Good

[@thesophisticatedlobster6954]

Shoutout to one of the greatest videos of all time

[@robertjamesmcleod]

I don’t think I’ve read a better comment than this one

[@OmnipotentSpud]

Gosh I love that video. The music alone was enough but pair that with Lonnies crazy story and embrace of Schuerholz...inspiring.

[@blinkyxx7789]

No lie, an expanded version incorporating all of the advancements in production this series has seen would be so cool.

[@tim.noonan]

Idk if it’s my favorite Jon Bois video, but it definitely is the most important to me. Showed me exactly what Jon is capable of in terms of storytelling, and it introduced me to Tame Impala. Just a masterpiece.

[@skalocaust]

"what are the odds?" is never a rhetorical question in Dorktown

[@serraramayfield9230]

Literally less likely then flipping a coin and having it land on the same side down. 27 TIMES IN A ROW.

[@nickscope27]

27 in a row 2018 rockets

[@nexus882]

imagine being Dave Stieb, long retired baseball player and someone just goes ahead and makes a 3-4 hour youtube doc about you.

[@JWex-jy7sk]

That’s what I’m thinking! I’m hoping somewhere there’s somebody who’s told Dave Stieb about this documentary and he’s watching it just like the rest of us.

[@muddro420]

and it's incredible. if i were steib, i would be honored as hell that someone was out here losing their minds over my back to back robbed no hitters. probably hurts to watch tho

[@dustinpeterson6511]

@@muddro420 just wait. It gets worse if I remember correctly.

[@haroldb6773]

I’d be gassed

[@SLaird22]

@@dustinpeterson6511 but then it gets better.

[@bossniper15]

“If a team has the best pitcher in baseball… it’s anyone’s guess” The Mariners with King Felix and the Mets with deGrom both agree

[@tylerbrantner4026]

To be fair, having the best QB isn’t necessarily a winning recipe either because there are 21 other starters that can sell out at any time… but compared to baseball it’s still a lock. I think that chaos is a big part of baseball’s appeal

[@Roscododger]

@Tyler Brantner No no if your Quarterback is the best in the league it's a disappointment if you're not making a deep playoff run. If your top pitcher is the best in the league, who cares? Trade them if your team is bad because not even they have the strength to drag your sorry carcass out of the rut. Like mr bossniper15 here said, ask the Mariners.

[@nickmontalbano9573]

Don’t forget the Big Unit

[@pangobara8182]

They've done plenty of losing with those pitchers on the team, what do you mean?

[@TheUntakenUsername]

Mostly, but the Mets did haul Jake into a World Series, and he showed out in that 2015 division series

[@Boyiaka97]

Only Jon Bois can make a chart the most terrifying object in a piece of media

[@bonethugg]

got me stressing

[@SleepyGrapes]

The “ he still doesn’t” line at the end of this just has me in tears like how can it get worse for this man Dave Stieb

[@Hummabubba]

Yeah that line my face fall. I don't want to contemplate those horrors

[@ApronStudios]

I audibly said "OH NO" when that line dropped lmao

[@SleepyGrapes]

@@Hummabubba I’m actively not looking up his career because I want to experience it all in real time

[@Hummabubba]

@@SleepyGrapes Oh same

[@rhys3822]

it can always get worse... dave stieb knows this to be true

[@steelerfaninperu]

I like how the Cleveland Browns managed to work their way in here, seems fitting that the factory of sadness would impose its calamities on others.

[@ramnsesallen4375]

Cleveland is not the sports city you want to be in

[@waffled1090]

As a Browns fan coming from a long line of Browns fans, ouch..

[@jacoblebold8462]

The factory of sadness is so powerful it can cause complete misery in other sports.

[@ramnsesallen4375]

@@waffled1090 I am in it with you brother, things are looking up for the moment tho

[@jonathancarlson6127]

*cue shot of FirstEnergy Field with evil laugh echoing in the background*

[@MichaelMartin-qe5ye]

Dave Stieb is taking this documentary to the Blue Jays and he's going to WIN retroactive arbitration.

[@joebaker2311]

I think we are all rooting for this

[@leonardlumbers]

I’d like him to take the finished doc to the org and see if he can get his damn number retired. Jays have given it out every year since he left in ‘93 except for 2014-15. #Retire37

[@88porpoise]

I am sure it will come up soon, but the Jays actually agreed to renegotiate his salary upwards when there was no requirement to do so. So they kind of made up for some of the screwing him over years earlier.

[@bmac4]

Maybe that will get him his well deserved Cooperstown plaque. I mean Jack Morris got one off VC votes, why not Stieb?

[@88porpoise]

@@bmac4 I doubt it. Morris had sub par stats, but he had two huge playoff runs. He had two wins in the 1984 Series, two wins to knock out the Jays in 1991 and three excellent starts in the 1991 World Series (he was pulled with a 2-1 lead for a pinch hitter in the game he didn't win), including a 10 inning shutout in Game 7, to take the MVP. Then he played key role in getting the Jays over the top the next season, even if his stats (other than Wins) weren't spectacular and he was disappointing in the playoffs, he was widely recognized as a key part to getting the team thete. And he still got a fourth ring in 1993 even if he wasn't a significant contributor. And Morris had his reputation (regardless of whether it is deserved) that "he didn't necessarily make it pretty, but he just won". Neither Stieb nor Morris really have the raw stats to get in (Stieb needed a longer career to do it). But Morris has the much better story to get him over the top. That doesn't mean Stieb can't get in, but he doesn't have nearly as compelling of a case as Morris did outside of stats.

[@lucifermorning-star9310]

Even after everything that Secret Base has put out, the sheer cosmic horror of this episode floored me. Vast, incomprehensible misery allotted to just a single pitcher. Nightmarish.

[@redskullz1249]

Yup, I haven't felt cosmic horror on this scale since I watched a metaball studios video on time measurements.

[@randylevy]

lol...no spoilers but it sort of gets worse :/

[@bubba200874426]

@@randylevy is it really a spoiler when the video ends with a cliffhanger that implies that?

[@maxjohansen9475]

I watched episode 1 and 2 in order and then went back to watch episodes 1 and let me tell you, watching that ball on a mission not only to ruin Halladays no no but to wish a fond farewell to Stieb is like looking into the face of god.

[@insanusmaximus2857]

That was literally one of the most terrifying things I've ever seen. It's a cyclopean monument that will loom over all of Dorktown forever.

[@jackmanley1473]

That Julio Franco interview is incredible. I don't think I've even seen anyone other than the ump for the Galarraga game apologize for breaking up a no-hitter

[@sethtate2079]

Julio is one of the best most genuine people ever in baseball.

[@SuperStrik9]

@@35mm21 He also had one of the coolest batting stances of all time.

[@justinmartin1831]

Julio Franco the oldest major leaguer in history or so we think

[@Trumpisscum-420]

@@justinmartin1831 Jamie Moyer was older

[@tsurdyk]

@@justinmartin1831 Satchel Paige.

[@copskeleton8874]

For those who don't know him, Royals reliever Dan Quisenberry, who has a cameo in this video, was also one of baseball's great characters. He was hardly scouted and signed with the Royals for 500 bucks and a bag of tobacco. He pitched subamrine-style and his fastball was 80 mph on a good day. He didn't throw curveballs. Despite this, he lead the AL in saves five times in six years. Over those six years he had 2.39 ERA as well. He might have made fewer mistakes than any pitcher ever, only walking 92 batters in over 1,000 innings over his career. His ERA+ is one of the highest among all modern pitchers. He was a published poet, a jokester, a hot-head, and a family man. He died in 1998 of brain cancer. He was only 45 years old. He was a damn good player and, by all accounts, an even better guy. It's a shame he's mostly forgotten outside of Kansas City now. He'll never have a plaque in Cooperstown, but he's definitely worthy of a spot in Dorktown.

[@teen_laqueefa]

Thank you. Never heard of him, now I NEED to know more🤯

[@tomaspabon2484]

Quisenberry penned some of my favourite sports quotes of all time. I'm especially fond of "I became a better pitcher when I found a delivery in my flaw"

[@jasonwalker4003]

​@@tomaspabon2484 damn that's fire

[@AndreIguodalaFan55]

Yeah there’s a lot of b-ball players worthy of a Stieb like dorktown doc

[@insanusmaximus2857]

I remember his name, but I didn't follow baseball closely enough to know that much about him. Thank you for sharing a bit of his story. Guys like that should be remembered fondly.

[@da4an1qu1]

Deliberately not googling Dave Stieb to avoid spoilers, because this is so good. Kudos

[@SirChris314]

20:47 “train conductor in search of a steering wheel” is such an incredible line lmao

[@LegendMkr7]

I prefer, None of that egghead stuff, lol.

[@robsharktest]

I think the best line is still from the Mariners doc: "you're an astronaut who brought his wallet."

[@christianlawrence2714]

It turns out it is, in fact, not possible to wait and binge this series. The excitement is too papable too ignore.

[@adamcoe]

I've watched both episodes twice now, it's unreal

[@WaddickLawnCare]

@@adamcoe oh geez can’t imagine lacking a life as much as yourself

[@Ostbuggen]

"He still doesn't" as the line to end the video is as out of a horror movie. I'm genuinely scared of part 3

[@mattkemper8485]

I've never heard of this guy and can't wait.

[@deathmetal11111]

Well, spoiler alert...there's a good reason why they had to mention the no-hitters broken up with two outs in the ninth NOT belonging to Dave Stieb. Like he needs his own category :)

[@fudgets1]

I met Julio Franco when I was a kid and I gotta say he was one of the nicest, most generous people I’ve ever met. Spent nearly 30 minutes with me after practice to talk with me about baseball and then ended it by giving me his bat, batting gloves, and a signed ball. Julio Franco can do no wrong. A true gentleman.

[@panner11]

Even though his interview in the video was only a few seconds, you could tell he's an honest and class guy

[@YoungATUM]

Yeah I immediately looked up everything on him after seeing this the first time, seems like an absolute baseball legend.

[@callofdutyman1001]

The fact that the camera panning downwards towards the red box at 56:55 inadvertently(?) causes a graphical glitch to make it seem like it’s trembling really embodies the chaos of the whole situation; Another amazing video from the SB crew

[@Kyoslilmonster]

As someone who deals with odds on a regular basis, the sheer physical appearance of 241,000,000:1 like that is just staggering. Our poor mans Dave Stieb.

[@jonathanspears3484]

With 2430 regular season games and 32-53 in the post season, we should expect this to happen once every 95,000 years or so?

[@serraramayfield9230]

@@jonathanspears3484 140,000 iirc

[@jonathanspears3484]

@@serraramayfield9230 Could well be... definitely true that an event with probability 1/x is not at all guaranteed to happen after x times, but I don't actually know the math and none of the online calculators were friendly. Is the 140k where probability goes above 50%?

[@serraramayfield9230]

@@jonathanspears3484 need to think for a bit

[@doppelplusungutmensch1141]

You know mathematics (and especially statistics) are extremely interesting and downright staggering. And people love sports. The concept of talking about sports statistics that dramatically with charts, visualizations and comparisons is simply... so easy, but so genious. Nothing will ever astonish a common man as an unlikely sports statistic, displayed in a fashion that the man actually understands how unlikely it is.

[@barryswigart1432]

"6 days later" took my heart out of my chest. Like, I almost cried out.

[@bubba200874426]

I knew it was going to be a very short time by them making a special point of how rare losing a no hitter on the the last strike was, but I didn't expect it to be consecutive starts.

[@MKPiatkowski]

Imagine watching it in real time. I cried so much for him.

[@seanomatopoeia]

I walked out of the room.

[@sbunting080]

I care way too much about this man I had never heard of two weeks ago.

[@coyoteflavouring]

Big 📠

[@TheTicktockman321]

Yeah! I remember in the early 80's, every stinking pack of cards that I got had a Dave Stieb card in it. "Who the heck is this Stieb guy?!?!?!" I'm finally finding out. Boy, am I finding out.

[@pdotjdott]

I just wanna appreciate the setup for the game card. The stacking as the runners advance around the base is brilliant.

[@bubba200874426]

I'm glad I'm not the only one that noticed that. Perfect use of 3D space without making the graphic too dense.

[@SpruceOaks]

As someone who designs data graphics, I admit the way they did that here really worked. Simple, easy to understand, yet communicates important information.

[@pewpewpandas9203]

"He still doesn't" Is probably the most threatening thing I've ever heard Jon Bois say

[@JacobStJohn-rh8gl]

Unreal how Jon and Alex have the consistent ability to give you goosebumps by showing you charts

[@kyokyo718]

some damn good charts

[@Carbine64]

@@kyokyo718 *pretty good charts

[@doppelplusungutmensch1141]

You know mathematics (and especially statistics) are extremely interesting and downright staggering. And people love sports. The concept of talking about sports statistics that dramatically with charts, visualizations and comparisons is simply... so easy, but so genious. Nothing will ever astonish a common man as an unlikely sports statistic, displayed in a fashion that the man actually understands how unlikely it is.

[@ericmillettcon]

"And sails somewhere into Guelph..." Wow thank you. You can just mention small city names outside of Toronto and thousands of Canadians will get excited every time.

[@stefslon]

The Matt Devlin Approach

[@sellinganja]

The fact that he used to mention that Guelph is where all cursed things go

[@jtsholtod.79]

Technically, given Exhibition Stadium's layout and trajectory of the throw, I'd say he sailed it closer to Brampton, or Kincardine if he had that much of an arm.

[@shorv]

It's the details that really show they care

[@Guelph35]

Yeah, loved that call out.

[@Narokkurai]

Jimy Williams pulling Stieb after Ricky Henderson steals on him makes perfect sense if you assume that Williams had never heard of baseball before and has no idea what it even means to be good at the sport.

[@Marcus_Aurelius42]

The man doesn't even know how to spell his own name how can he possible understand baseball

[@teen_laqueefa]

@@Marcus_Aurelius42 ©️™️⚾️🆒️

[@kylespencer7756]

as a Red Sox fan, I feel like this comment is a recycled cliche type comment that I have never heard before. but I like it, and will be using it, and will forever credit "some random dude on a Dave Steib youtube video" if ever asked where I got it from

[@teen_laqueefa]

@@Marcus_Aurelius42 he just likes to be different with his one "M" ass

[@DanStrayer]

“Manager’s decision.”

[@Zionicle]

That is actually the worst hop I’ve ever seen in baseball. My heart stopped

[@scrub_jay]

If that happened in a video game it would be reported as a glitch

[@JWex-jy7sk]

I knew about Stieb’s back to back lost no hitters before this documentary, and knew it was Julio Franco who broke it up but had never seen footage of how it happened. When they paused it when it was in the infield grass I thought to myself…”Wait how is this going to possibly be a hit, it’s out #3 with ease?”

[@scullystie4389]

Indeed. The baseball gods had different plans for Dave.

[@bubba200874426]

@@scrub_jay either that or one of those times the game decides its time for an error.

[@paysonfox88]

Darvish of the Texas rangers is the only other player to suffer the pain that Dave did. Darvish in 2013 to 14 came with them one batter of a perfect game, and a no-hitter consecutive years. He lost his perfect game to a blooper from marwin Gonzalez of the Astros. He lost his no-hitter to David Ortiz hitting a grounder through the shift. Texas rangers fans have something in common with Toronto. We both had our Ace hurlers suffered double devastation.

[@frogmafiaofficial]

Love the Lonnie Smith cameo, another star in the Jon Bois Cinematic Universe

[@ralphismyname4940]

honestly a lonnie smith dorktown remake would be so awesome. Jon's storytelling has evolved so much since that video, imagine how hed tell that story now

[@joshuapatrick682]

Jack Morris was the last real beneficiary of the outdated thinking of the past. Who else if a career 5% better than league average would get the kind of money he got and a HOF plaque despite only 43 rWAR over 18 seasons The dude is 100% a villain and deserves to be remembered as such.

[@mcj88]

11:35 - To really illustrate just how close the Jays were to the '85 pennant: in March of 2020, literally a week before the pandemic shut everything down, I was at a flea market here in Calgary, on the other side of Canada some 2,050 miles (4,000 km) away from Toronto; and at one booth amongst a bunch of other vintage baseball memorabilia like Philadelphia Athletics and New York Giants pennants (the latter of which I bought) I saw a button for sale that read: "TORONTO BLUE JAYS, 1985 AMERICAN LEAGUE CHAMPIONS". Some poor sap was so sure it was a done deal that he actually went out and had these things made in the 24-48 hours before the series' tide turned; and now 35+ years later some of them, depicting an outcome from an alternate universe, are still in circulation.

[@LordTeaboBaggins]

Those could have been official merch as well. During playoffs, merch companies will print memorabilia depicting both teams winning the championship game or series so that when the game or series is over, they can immediately begin rolling out sales on the merchandise. The merch showing the team that lost is usually donated to charity organizations as a tax write off, and from there that merch is shipped off to third world countries. So, if you've seen a picture of some random dude in some godforsaken land wearing a 1991 Atlanta Braves World Series Champions shirt, that's why. I'm guessing the buttons are similar :)

[@teen_laqueefa]

@@LordTeaboBaggins little starving kids and those BUFFALO BILLS SUPER BOWL SHIRTS

[@Justin3Santiago]

@@teen_laqueefa there's a generation of folks in some other country that believes the Bills were a dynasty who won 4 straight Super Bowls

[@adamcoe]

How much did you pay the guy for it? Please don't tell us you didn't buy it

[@badger6728]

Oh God, we’re gonna see Bengals paraphernalia on Ugandans in five years…

[@keenfrizzle]

SB really have a talent in capturing uninhibited human suffering in sports. I thought they had captured it well enough with Super Bowl 51. I couldn't even imagine exactly what I just watched.

[@serraramayfield9230]

*watches Stieb fail the first no-hitter* "Okay, okay...that was bad. Yeah that was bad." *Stieb fails again* "What. In. The. Fuck" *odds are given* I would have just ran out of the stadium crying my eyes out at that point

[@ianalex9062]

And before Super Bowl 51, you’d think he captured it in the 2001 Mariners. Then this happened, and it blows both of those out of the water.

[@utryping]

have you watched pretty good s2e1? one of jons finest works in the suffering department

[@bernier42]

Blue Jays fans know exactly what “this” is, and look forward to an even more agonizing review of those back-to-back heartbreakers.

[@bmac4]

Well on the plus side, surely he won't take any more no-hitters into the 9th again and the Blue Jays will win a World Series before he retires...right?

[@brucedillon8358]

@@bmac4 the ladder happened (1993)

[@brucedillon8358]

I thought it was 1998 when the career ended? Did he unretire?

[@SuperStrik9]

@@brucedillon8358 Also 1992.

[@brucedillon8358]

@@CyberchaoX ah

[@salmonformula4377]

This is one of Jon's best videos. I feel legitimately sad now. Thanks Jon.

[@beckobert]

You shouldn't feel sad. Feel happy because Lonnie Smith won the World Series.

[@maclanewestbrook4176]

A Jon Bois video about Lonnie Smith would be so good he should make one

[@fries5849]

It truly would be pretty good

[@paulsletten8985]

Wait til I tell you about this guy named Rickey Henderson.

[@mattkemper8485]

It would show he's serious about success.

[@112steinway]

A video about how Lonnie Smith seizes the means of production would certainly be pretty good too.

[@defeatstatistics7413]

Y'know, everyone focuses on American baseball, how about Jon covers a Korean player, maybe someone like Koo Dae-Sung?

[@Jeemo88]

That Julio Franco bloodbath hopper single hurt my soul. I can't even begin to fathom how Stieb felt... Sheesh... Edit: because I just got to the next game... WHAT. THE. HECK!!! 😶

[@1missing]

I feel sick to my stomach

[@catmint9]

Out of every special and episode that Jon and Alex have put out, 57:08 is somehow the moment that filled me with the purest and utmost sense of dread. A LITERAL NUMBER!!!

[@rickastley8214]

In some alternate universe this video is titled Dave Steibs back to back No Hitters in the later 80s need a deep rewind.

[@Narokkurai]

The Jim Traber anecdote forgets to mention that he charge the mound a second time in that same game, but was tripped by the catcher and eventually ended up getting kicked in the face by the other team's manager. A Google search of the man's name quickly returns the article title "Jim Traber Apologizes For N-Word Controversy". Who'd a thunk?

[@joebaker2311]

Jack Morris was enough of a villain for this video

[@Narokkurai]

@Je Ne Parle Pas Francais Is there a difference in the way black people have historically used the word among themselves compared to how white people have used it towards them?

[@Narokkurai]

@Je Ne Parle Pas Francais So?

[@brickwallblitz]

One of my favorite Dorktown moments is the atmosphere created at 1:15 when Overland kicks into the main riff and the screen zooms all the way to the ALCS screen. Dorktown is an amazing series that would not be what it is without its music selection and timing.

[@chickenwing3821]

Just for further reference, the odds at 54:56 are equivalent to that of guessing heads or tails correctly just under 28 times in a row

[@manwalrus]

I don't know if Parts 3 and 4 will go into it but it is amazing how Jack Morris was heralded by sportswriters for years as Mr. Baseball because he had 20 opening day starts or whatever while I grew up in Southern Illinois and had never heard of Dave Stieb until the first episode of this.

[@leonardlumbers]

Just wait until Morris signs with the Jays in ‘92 and immediately becomes their first 20-game winner, despite an ERA over 4 and a 2.8 WAR. Stieb had to watch THAT in his own backyard. (I was at school with the nephew of his biographer: Stieb was, to put it mildly, unnerved by all the 15-11 and 16-7 wins where Jack gave up sixes and sevens.)

[@michaelfrazia4569]

stieb was very well known in the 80s...I was a kid in New york and aware how great he was

[@MKPiatkowski]

@@leonardlumbers That was the worst. And then he does squat in the playoffs.

[@Hazztech]

Sports writers are morons

[@Trumpisscum-420]

I got into baseball in the late 80's, it was no secret that Stieb was one of the best pitchers in the game.

[@Thyyyyyyyyme]

The emotional whiplash of Stieb coming within one, impossible bat for a no-hitter, then doing it again in LITERALLY HIS NEXT GAME ONLY TO BE CRUSHED IN ANOTHER IMPOSSIBLY UNLIKELY HIT, is insane. The sheer cosmic horror of the odds of that happening, impossible to even truly understand, is devastating. AND IT GETS WORSE? HOW CAN IT GET WORSE? WHAT DOES THE UNIVERSE HAVE AGAINST THIS MAN?

[@jbreaks4743]

I have been a huge fan of Jon Bois for a while now and I’m pretty sure I’ve seen everything he’s ever produced that’s online. THIS series is a complete and total masterpiece. Growing up in Ontario, the Jays were always a big deal in my youth but CHRIST none of us had any idea of who Dave Stein was, how brilliant his arm was, or just how devastating his road to a no hitter really was. Thank you for this. It’s sports storytelling at its absolute finest, without exception. Just wow.

[@teen_laqueefa]

Steib, you mean? 🇨🇦

[@jbreaks4743]

@@teen_laqueefa I’m referring to the guy who’s producing this thing. Jon Bois. Oh wait, I see how “Steib” was autocorrected to “Stein.” Lol. Good catch.

[@teen_laqueefa]

@@jbreaks4743 yeah, I was trying to be helpful, hope you didn't think I was trying to critique you

[@MKPiatkowski]

Yeah, it's a shame how he's not been fetted by the club the way he should be. Every Jays fan should know his story.

[@austinreed5805]

Dear God, that ending was pure pain. 1 in 241,190,218 His luck came from the depths of Hell, and that’s an understatement. Again, OMFG!!!

[@thepizzagod420]

141,190,218 sided die

[@brackendouglas3433]

The Dorktown series are in my opinion some of the greatest videos ever made and the production is of the highest quality. This rivals anything on any platform to include prime time TV. Amazing work keep it up.

[@MrRico2xy]

Man, those two no-hitter attempts really broke my heart. At the same time, I find them inspiring. There is something so genuine about Stieb going after his goal, taking the failure on the chin, and getting back up.

[@xiaoxiaostickguy]

One, I let out a loud "WHOOOOOAAAAA" when I saw Pat Mahomes Sr. I didn't expect him to be involved in this story, and am glad he gets to put out some quotes about Morris since his son is not only a Super Bowl winning QB, but also possibly one of the most gifted players we've ever seen in that sport. Two, it was **painful** seeing that first 9th inning, 2 out, 2 strike no-hitter go away, especially on such an erratic and unlikely bounce. I know SB's brand of foreshadowing from the way you two kept emphasizing just how bad the last hitter was, and was preparing for the inevitable and it still hit me like a train... only to continue to be rolled over by that emotional pain train continuously until that bar finally stopped, seeing how obscenely unlikely it was. It hurts even more just typing this out realizing that, despite these heartbreaking denies, technically these are still amazing showing in which he showed clear dominance, but knowing he's not well regarded by sports writers and so he will never get the credit for these accomplishments and near-perfect feats.

[@Mr4one6]

Sang the national anthem. Cartoonishly chased a pitcher all across the diamond. Broke up a no hitter in the 9th with 2 outs and 2 strikes in the midst of a slump. That Traber guy needs a movie.

[@영차영차-i1z]

They already made Eastbound and Down. Also, imagine growing up listening to this man do radio.

[@Mr4one6]

@@영차영차-i1z ah true

[@daifeichu]

Holy crap. This has to be the best "The Story of..." yet. I laughed. I cried. Great job Jon and friends.

[@ThomasBaxter]

The storytelling in this is amazing. The pacing and control of the subject matter is masterful. I find myself continually amazed at the quality of these SB docs... and I shouldn't be that surprised. Just wow.

[@KeegoTheWise]

as a Chiefs fan, i will never *not* appreciate Jon bringing Mahomes up in tangentially related sports stories

[@abridge2]

Jon is also a chiefs fan

[@Lambda3141]

I have never had the end of a Jon Bois video leave me with this sort of awful, strange feeling in my stomach. Damn, dude.

[@alexwei2573]

You should watch his “222-0” Pretty Good episode. Also has a horror-esque ending

[@kdfsjljklgjfg]

@@alexwei2573 That, we can chalk up to an isolated incident just working out to end ruinously. This is a long story of a man being tortured.

[@theladyhrae]

NO!!!!!! and the DeVry videos have that uneasy sense to them. Tension and awe and a touch of brokenness.

[@DukeTheRebel]

LONNIE HAHAH, man I hope that y’all tell his story again, Jon made him one of my favorite players, and now I just hope he’ll be immortalized once and for all

[@thisis27characters]

"somewhere into Guelph"!! I knew you guys did your homework but this little southern Ontario geography piece really shows you're putting in ALL THE EFFORT. Love it

[@fenzelian]

The inning-by-inning visualization technique in this video is brilliant and should be used for all baseball games.

[@BigBrezzy]

1:31 Yeah, someone definitely should have done a short-form, Google Earth-based documentary about Lonnie Smith.

[@minsub417]

It'd be probably be pretty good if they did

[@ORob555]

Holy hell 57:10 It’s two in the morning here and I’m watching this before going to sleep and I’m probably staying up after this one. That’s a horrifying statistic if there ever was one.

[@Roscododger]

I didn't hear the name Dave Stieb until now. I am desperately trying to convince myself not to google whether he pitches a no hitter or not. Because that tiny, irrelevant article will surely not pick up a speck of what doing it or not meant to this man.

[@leonardlumbers]

Yeah, don’t do it, brother. See it through. There’s so much to this guy’s insane career to come. There’s a reason Jon and Alex need four parts.

[@bubba200874426]

This video did end on a cliffhanger implying it gets worse.

[@shreknskrubgaming7248]

As someone who has never cared about baseball in my entire life, I'm right there with you. We gotta see it through, this series has been far too good to spoil it early.

[@ianalex9062]

@@leonardlumbers I did look it up. I don’t know how to word this to not give a hint to it. I can’t say words like wonderful, or heartbreaking, sorrowful, or amazing. But ultimately, regardless of whether he pitches a no-hitter or not, he should be a HoFer.

[@stevedoredandyfunk3032]

The blocks turning red are beginning to cause physical pain for me. I started getting obsessed with baseball in the mid 80s when I was in 4th grade, and I always remembered Stieb as good but not great. This series is showing me how wrong I was.

[@fluffkomix]

"If you need innings, badly, but your manager can end your day whenever he feels like it, what do you do? What's the one way you can seize control? What's the one game you could pitch that would render you so completely invincible for a day, that no manager would be brave enough to interfere?" This is honestly a hella inspiring sentiment. I'm going to be thinking about this one a lot lately.

[@Cliffwalkerrockhounding]

Poor Dave. Wow. This man had a hard road and travelled it well. I can't believe I am excited to go three hours deep into Stieb. Waiting on part 3. Great horror music to represent the 1 in a 1/4 B of despair.

[@Michaelonyoutub]

After explaining how unlikely it was for Dave Stieb to lose the no-hitter in the 9th with 2 outs and 2 strikes, I knew this had to happen again. Then there was the overly long pause and I was like "wait is it happening now? Is it going to happen at the start of next season, or maybe just before the end of this season? Is it going to happen in the last 10min of this video?", then Jon said "six days later" and a new spot was made on the graphic for the game and I finally understood just how much of a wild ride this story is really going to be.

[@calvinsmith6389]

Secret Base consistently produces the smartest and most entertaining content on KZbin. I keep trying to get my friends on board. It'll just be my secret I guess! Keep up the great work.

[@calvinsmith6389]

Also as a lifelong Braves fan it was great to see the Julio Franco clip. One of my favorite Braves ever!

[@mattgreek1066]

The first two parts of this have been ruddy bloody brilliant. I salute your beautiful channel. Cheers 🍻

[@martinsanz3017]

Don't mind me, just commenting to help this absolute masterpiece of a video do well in the algorithm.

[@endlessmountain]

Born 1975 and going to many dozens of games at exhibition stadium from '95 to close it was great to watch him play. I can remember where I was for these games and the feelings I had for the almost could have while the team fails to regain the glory from '85. My first game was Tor 10-6 Kc in the Summer of 1985 and then Sept85 on a Friday night vs Yankees with over an hour rain delay and the failure to attempt to win division. I watched it on TV next day to clinch. Got to see Gruber hit a cycle in one of my games there and tickets were cheap at $4 for LF seats which were nice enough for me and free with groceries at the local grocery store. Thanks for the series, and Stieb as you read these comments and I know you will, thanks for the great memories.

[@ThomasOnTape]

57:08 - I thought I had already learned what "too big to comprehend" meant when Troy State and DeVry built the tower of babel 253 miles high on a foundation 141 miles wide. _I was wrong._ The tower had been built 4 years earlier: Something so unlikely it collapsed into a sporting singularity, detectable only by echoes of its chaotic energy spreading into the future. I applaud the brave sports cosmologists of Secret Base for staring into the unblinking eye of the universe that is sports and revealing its secrets to us. Seriously though, these videos are like Sagan for statistics.

[@RandomAssist]

The fucking music with the 241 million illustrated is some of the best cosmic dread I've felt watching any kind of media. Never would've expected that from a video about a baseball player who previous to series I had no idea who he was.

[@brentresler5342]

When the dissonant music came near the end, I could only marvel at the sheer magnitude of how unfortunate Dave Stieb really was. Goosebumps.

[@anthonyjozefek7666]

Watching your series on Capt. Ahab for the 2nd time. It's truly an amazing piece. As others have said "That's how you tell a story". This is a masterpiece. Bravo.

[@1missing]

That bounce made my jaw drop to the floor. Edit: No...not again...why are you doing this to us Edit2: This is the most tragic sports story I've ever heard.

[@nabii5951]

"He still doesn't." Oh, you've gotta be kidding me.

[@gregjones5627]

Having grew up in Toronto, I really appreciate these videos. I can't wait for 1990 and 1992! Keep up the incredible work!

[@KardiFan2000]

The visual of Stieb running on the field and falling on his ass in celebration in '92 was a classic moment!

[@Disastromatic]

You see the first point of impact and think, "ooh, that'll add a little mustard to it. Still, a major league fielder should be able to-" and then your brain derails when you see the second impact, you fall out of your chair onto the ceiling, the window flies open and your room fills with tomato soup. What I mean is that physics ceases to be man's greatest tool for understanding the universe and instead does the baseball equivalent of dividing by zero while strangling a kitten.

[@serraramayfield9230]

And then the 2nd failed no-hitter happens and causes the entire house to explode. Dividing by zero to the zeroth power.

[@selenamertvykh6481]

@@serraramayfield9230 0^0 as a fixed expression is agreed to equal 1 by convention. 0^0 as in lim x->0 y->0 x^y is the one that's undefined.

[@msolec2000]

@@selenamertvykh6481 Wrong. 0^0 is undefined. Not 1, not 0, anything.

[@selenamertvykh6481]

@@msolec2000 I was trained as a mathematician, and most mathematicians back me up. There are several perfectly good arguments for why it should be 1 in the context I mentioned; it's an empty product, it represents the unique endomorphism on the empty set. You also need to define it as 1 for Taylor series to work.

[@msolec2000]

@@selenamertvykh6481 Sorry, but you're not the only one that was trained in mathematician. By the properties of powers, and the fact that 1-1 is 0, 0^0 is equivalent to 0/0, and therefore undefined.

[@Jame5man]

Can’t wait for future Dork Town videos so that they can zoom out and you can see that monolith off to the side

[@AlgernonCSwinburne]

Every time there’s a zoom out, we will all remember this pain.

[@ScootsMcPoot]

I never thought a dave stieb documentary would keep me glued to the computer. this is fucking amazing. you guys deserve so much more. I hope we get to see a secret base tv show. one day. all you guys deserve the success

[@MKISports]

That one in 241+ million chances of shattering a possible no hitter in back to back games is like winning the Mega millions or Powerball for Dave Stieb in a worst possible way. Man, his story of not getting a no-hitter in back to back games feels a lot more sadder now than the 28-3 Falcons collapse.

[@serraramayfield9230]

Yeah it's so much worse, at least you can blame the entire team for 28-3

[@aporcelaingirl]

A brilliant story of a good man who had so many things not quite go his way, told by these masterful storytellers... Your video essays can make anything feel like it's the only thing that matters in the world at that moment, or just casually read a profound line with a flippant style that makes me feel it just popped into your head at that very moment. I've wanted to get into making videos like this, but it would take me awhile to master the software and such to be technically good, but then you have to know how to do the *story* and to get the empathy across, but without losing your audience's attention. It's such a careful line to tow, but, when done well, it is a special kind of beautiful, wistful and emotional even when it's funny. :) Thank you for giving us such great video series like this. I loved all the Fumble Dimension videos, even when they made me laugh so hard it made my stomach hurt, and I was having a bad day with my ulcerative colitis. I still watched it lol. I'm also a Patriots fan so I enjoyed the one on the Atalnta Falcons as well. Keep making them and I can't wait till the next episode in this series comes out. Meanwhile, I have to go friend you on all your accounts. I'm some variant of "porcelaingirl" or "aporcelaingirl" on most of them. I'll be waiting lol! :)

[@jaydubaic21]

My uncle past away about 10 years ago and he talked about Steib as the best pitcher of the 80s. As far as I know this is the first hardcore look into that career so I appreciate that and I know he would have too.

[@TomChillstrom]

This is my favorite series on any platform, network, streaming, or anything! I’m beyond invested on what happens to Dave Stieb and my only regret is not waiting until all videos were uploaded to binge watch all four parts.

[@mcbaby]

I always read about the '85 ALCS and Stieb's back to back no hitters broken up in the 9th. Having a full breakdown explained in proper SB manner is greatly appreciated, long overdue and heartbreakingly frustrating.

[@heikothedwarf]

I want to see more pitchers with Stieb's energy. Sprinting off the mound like he just scored a goal after a clutch strikeout, spiking the ball over his shoulder after the inning-ending groundout. That gets me excited!

[@Doctor_Sawbones]

“They don't really know Dave Steib. They will.” has such a force to it. Incredibly well written, boys.

[@bubbabear244]

Secret base gives Toronto sports more credit than ESPN ever will.

[@MrOctober44]

The detail and intricacy of this is amazing. I remember him being a good pitcher but didn't realize how good. This series is incredible.

[@fredflux2738]

Just brilliant… unbelievable good story telling. Thank you both for bringing these baseball stories. As a lifelong baseball fan, it really feels good to see my favorite era (80s-90s) told with the creativity and passion you two have.

[@nlands6279]

Odds of losing 2 no hitters in that fashion using proper math: 1 in 241190218 Odds of losing 2 no hitters in that fashion using Stieb’s math: about 1 in 15. Moral of the story: if you use stats wrong, it might just come back to bite you

[@andydudas2376]

these videos just get better and better. SB has such a fantastic presentation of graphics and numbers...numbers that often stagger plausibility but deliver EVERY. TIME. Love, love, love this channel.

[@Sludgehammer138]

Rewatching this series. This is the best sports documentary I have ever seen... by a good margin The end of part 2 is as good as any horror movie lol

[@McDuffin]

The way you guys put a story together has always been great. This one is so awesome. Dave Stieb. I had no idea how interesting this story was. I can’t wait til part 3. I hope everyone in the baseball world sees this.

[@KJ-ATexan]

Until this series, I had no idea who Dave Stieb is. Now I want to know more about Dave Stieb. Well done on this series thus far, looking forward to Parts 3 and 4. Also, Mind Horizons is a banger of a track. While the story line commentary is highly compelling, the music is what sells it.

[@EJD339]

I can’t imagine how many hours it takes to make one of these episodes with researching, writing and graphics. Kudos to you guys. You can tell everyone working on this is passionate with their job.

[@griffinbatcheller8659]

Jon always makes amazing videos and for maybe only the second time this one made me tear up. The pain of having two consecutive no-hitters broken up like that is absolutely heartbreaking. Thank you for telling this story, can’t wait for the rest

[@AlgernonCSwinburne]

After watching this part, I feel as though I have gazed into a horrifying abyss. See you for Part 3!

[@rantingrodent416]

Visualizing those odds in a way that induces vertigo is a brilliant way to give everyone the *gut feeling* of how tremendously unlikely this situation was.

[@morganchilds9054]

You guys have to understand what this means to Jays fans. The time that this stuff was happening... I was like 10 years old in 1990 when he finally got it. Baseball was like MAGIC. Like literal fucking magic. Thank you for this... this is so special.

[@loganmatelan7860]

I allowed myself to hope which is always dangerous on part 2/4, but honestly gutted about the back to back heartbreak. Insanity.

[@jasonmain6398]

Oh sweet summer child....... it gets worse.

[@ynsimha7663]

@@jasonmain6398 Three in a row?

[@cypher50]

I grew up watching Columbia Fox NBA recordings, NFL films, MLB shows.... Your production is right up there with the classics.

[@nahx6205]

I seriously hope in future Dorktowns the one in 241,190,218 odds is just in the corner and in the future when someone watches their first Dorktown they can just look in the corner and think "what the fuck happened there?"

[@evanoster9481]

Seeing this upload was the fastest click of my life. Thank you, Secret Base!