How Canada is transforming assisted death safeguards

[@OofusTwillip]

My father's medically assisted death (due to mesothelioma) was the most incredibly humane, gentle death imaginable. As he drifted into the deepest sleep of all, we physically felt a peacefulness wrap itself around the whole house. Why do animals deserve the mercy of a peaceful, quick, assisted death to release them from their suffering, but humans don't?

[@SOULRELIEF22]

SOULS LIVE FOREVER! Animals have spirits but not souls. Nor did JESUS die and rise again to save animals from the lake of fire. ONLY mankind! "And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment." Hebrews 9:27! If the murdered person had no say in the execution, that's another matter. We can NEVER be more compassionate than GOD who created us. MANY times we suffer to find JESUS for deliverance, and ETERNAL LIFE in PARADISE! 🙏🏼❤️

[@derks0]

because they want to do it for the mentally ill, and drug addicts as well

[@Kashyap_Trivedi2]

​@@derks0A person is depressed because a family member has died and the person also wants to die. Is this fair? If a 25-year-old person is mentally and physically fit and has no health issues but feels like they have completed life and want to end it, is it okay them to do so? what about homeless poor people and people who is disabled? They want live but they don't have money to access medical or care they should have maid option? If a family don't want to take care a disabled person or a person who is suffering mental health issues or any health problem or just want to inherit his or her money they should have this option? Family members can give some percentage of money to Healthcare professionals and employees/officer.

[@derks0]

@@Kashyap_Trivedi2 dude none of these are a valid argument to suicide. executing ppl simply because our social structures are crumbling is grossly immoral

[@Kashyap_Trivedi2]

@@derks0 Fair to who, and using what standard of fairness? Is there literally any reason other than "they have potential" and "others would feel bad" that that you can use to justify "they shouldn't be allowed to die"? Or is that reason enough for you? It's not for me. You may have a problem with it, but you are not that person (or me. Going on 42 years and my thoughts on wanting to die have not changed in the slightest, and I've seen psychologist, taken meds, ect. am), and you are 100% not going to give that person what they need, if they can or want to helped. You've got your own life to live. You probably don't even see when the people around you START to have issues, which when you should be helping so that it doesn't get worse. You've got your own life and your own problems. It's not your responsibilities. that's slipping your mind when you share your feelings on the subject. You can't just say "you shouldn't die because it's not fair to someone else or you potential responsibility" this issue and let someone else deal with the responsibility. You can't "personal responsibility" this issue and put it on the family alone. They may be part of the problem. They may be too busy to deal with problem. They may not have the money to deal with problem. They may not have been taught HOW to deal with problem. They may see the problem as something to be ashamed of, and taught the one suffering to feel the same. Any or all of those things more are LIKELY in the United States. Not just "possible", but LIKELY. it may seem unfair to you that people might act on wanting to die, but you can completely disagreed their feelings of fairness in order to prioritize your own, you may feel strongly, but so what? That doesn't help anyone. Why are your feelings are more important? What will you personally do about it, not not as a hypothetical for if someone you know has problems, but for the broader reality that person actually live in? Will you constantly push your "representatives" (I use that term loosely because they represent monyed interests, and communicating with public to even find out what their interests or demands are is not something most do) to work towards social solutions? Will you donate your time or money to help others you don't know? Or will you just moralize and leave the responsibility up to "someone else" who can't afford it, probably doesn't even know there's a problem, ect? How is what you are doing fair? How is what you argue fair? Fair for who? According to what standard of fairness? Your feelings or something more concert? I'm all for improving healthcare to include public mental health care (and every other type of health care). The people who can and want to be helpd deserve it. This not something that should be left up to individuals to deal with because the resources, time and energy it takes to deal with it are not things most people can afford. The social stigmas also need to be gotten around, which won't happen "because personal/ family responsibility." But even with all of that, some people do not want to be helped, and some require so much help that it becomes a burden to those around them from hating the fact that they are considered "leeches" by society (mostly right Wingers) for not being able to keep going without a lot of support. Some people like me, don't want to do the equivalent of "thoughts and prayers" in the hope that life will become worth living. Not all of us want to go for another 10, 20, 30 years to find out that, just like the previous 10, 20, 30, 40 years, it was a waste of time, energy and just wasn't worth the suffering. You may not like it, but so what? What are you going to do about it? CAN you do anything about it? That's hyperbolic. You can't help me and neither anyone else, relative, professional or otherwise. Even if they could, i wouldn't want it. I don't see the point, and I actually looked for one; the point is something very individual must find for themselves, but not everyone does, and not everyone wants to distract themselves for their whole lives.

[@elsieoneill6181]

Giving the government this much control over who can live and die is never a good idea. That is about and simple as it can be put.

[@OhBoy-zy5bc]

Maybe you don’t know how much power the government actually has.

[@phoenixtoash2396]

It's not the government asking you to live or die, it's the people asking to die themselves.

[@justapear3007]

you’re ignorant

[@RythymJunky]

This is less about control from the government and more about control in the hands of the person seeking assistance in dying. The government has forced people to live in deplorable conditions with lessening aid.How does anyone see this as more government control? Do you realize just how much of your daily life and choice options are controlled by government?

[@greg0050]

Make a point or be quiet.​@@OhBoy-zy5bc

[@zahisunohr]

I‘ve seen so many people in my life that wanted to pass but couldn’t (thus having to painfully do it themselves) because it would be illegal to safely assist them which is just sad in my opinion. I really hope this becomes available in my country one day

[@jennybardoville5455]

You may have since discovered that MAID deaths are similar to drowning while paralysed, far from painless or compassionate

[@dialogical513]

Exactly

[@jglazemoney]

​@jennybardoville5455 what's your source for this?

[@aplcc323]

That is pure evil... You don't even realize it, do you? Lord have mercy...

[@JTheMan1]

​@@jglazemoneythey won't give one...

[@tombakersfield742]

Should be legal for consenting adults to

[@HunterB738]

Yup! For any reason they want. Bye.

[@aplcc323]

It should not.

[@aplcc323]

There are more important things that your individual autonomy.

[@HunterB738]

@@aplcc323 What??

[@logiciskey3886]

@@aplcc323you’re very mentally ill

[@Nayukhuut]

I get that I am apparently a minority in my own country, but I am not sure I like MAID being extended to those with mental health issues. I am on disability for mental health issues right now, and with the constant rise of essentials such as rent, food, etc, it really feels like the government is happier to help us die than to help us live (and I really would rather live). If your only choices are die painlessly, or live freezing out on the streets... well, it isn't much of a choice. :( I am all for letting people choose, but that means providing the supports to choose life as well, and not just the supports to choose death.

[@jennybardoville5455]

You may have since discovered that MAID deaths are similar to drowning while paralysed, far from painless or compassionate

[@mace41canuck]

@@jennybardoville5455ya sounds horrid.

[@HunterB738]

@@jennybardoville5455Not true

[@tokemeout]

Look at the trauma that living with mental illness causes,I can no longer deal with the pain in living,my pain could be removed but it won’t be because the person that is causing it is heartless

[@shellbacksclub]

My uncle who i love more than anything is currently battling the debilitating results of CJD. Nobody should have to live thru this if there's another way.

[@aplcc323]

Everyone goes through their own death. I pray that he finds a way to make the remainder of his life to be an encouraging, dignified and beautiful story of endurance of suffering without ever giving up. "No one should go through it" is not an option, here we are and we can get though it.

[@liannevallabh7855]

The problem is where do we draw the line? Who said all doctors are ethical? This is a noble idea, but people aren't all noble, including doctors.

[@fragjijreiosgeriota7509]

National Post protect the CPSO and the Liberal-NDP lying pervert coalition

[@aplcc323]

It's not even a noble idea... It's just a distorted sense of compassion enabling the worst of human nature to thrive from the suffering if others... It is a red flag the size of a country...

[@sandragalati6281]

Great presentation. I am proud to be an Oregonian whose state recognizes a person sovereign right to choose life on one’s own terms.

[@annettemoolman6504]

Very well said 💙🤗

[@BigPhallus4u]

Look at Canada's system now, people are being bullied into accepting euthanasia and being told they're selfish if they refuse.... Pre WWII Germany started much like this and we know where that all led...THINK🤔

[@annettemoolman6504]

Compassion is key 💙☑️

[@aplcc323]

But the lock was picked by financial interests and tyrannical control, and now that the door to death is open they want you to think they used the key.

[@maryhauser6523]

The only ones that should be using MAID is the Canadian Federal Liberal Government , starting with Trudeau.

[@Tobytobers1]

he needs to go!!!!!!!!!!! this is eugenics

[@phoenixtoash2396]

I sure wish I could be allowed to go first.

[@AngelaAdams-Prosser]

How very true

[@baileysummere.8017]

💀💀💀

[@phoenixtoash2396]

No, I believe it should be a human option to choose life or not. No matter what is true or not. Healthy or not. Doesn't matter. I should have a choice over my own life. If I choose not to be here it is a choice I make regardless of what anyone else may want, which would not matter to me as an individual knowing humanity is the cruelest of beings in existence. Opting out is a relief in my opinion.

[@vegetableautopsy3551]

As a species we struggle with even this pathetic amount of decency. If someone doesn't want to live (considering what some are reconciled to call, "the new normal") don't enforce it. People die, but we always have to enforce and inflict suffering on the way there for some perverse 🐎 💩 reason or another. Considering that on an individual level you're constantly in danger(from the moment of birth), No one should be standing in the way of the Exit.

[@aplcc323]

I don't know what you mean, but I think euthanasia is a perverse way of implementing eugenics control over the populous.

[@informationtransmitter599]

This is one of best things to ever happen to Canada. We've got along way to do to ensure access on request for everyone without requirement for terminal illness. Eventually we will succeed.

[@aplcc323]

That is demonic of you to say. I hope, someday, you can see that you are basically defending eugenics, like some of the worst regimes in the history of man kind. You are not so different from those who perpetrated those atrocities, and you are now defending the beginning of it.

[@invisible123-l9d]

So it's 'the best thing' to see people with mental illness, disability, non-terminal illness, 'persuaded' to die, or made to feel a burden, to influence them to 'choose' to die, so relatives can grab assets, or doctors save money, and free up beds? Sickening.

[@xivinrah]

Death is not dark. Death is as beautiful as birth. Life is the only aspect of existence we have the capacity to influence… sometimes even shape, though that comes with great power and good fortune. Death is what allows many of us to truly separate from a body bruised, battered, and cluttered with memory… both traumatic and euphoric. Regardless of which end of the spectrum you experience life through, it is very very intense. Even more so for those who are highly sensitive. The notion that death is dark is a misnomer. Life is continuous. The body isn’t and the body is the only aspect of our present existence that experiences death. But separation from this body and all of its ailments… to be one with the universe again, there is no greater fulfillment. Ask anyone who had a near death experience.

[@latrinemarine826]

Proof?

[@ReCoIL171]

I had a spiritual awakening at 26. And I remember crystal clear hearing You have always been here.

[@Kashyap_Trivedi2]

A person is depressed because a family member has died and the person also wants to die. Is this fair? If a 25-year-old person is mentally and physically fit and has no health issues but feels like they have completed life and want to end it, is it okay them to do so? what about homeless poor people and people who is disabled? They want live but they don't have money to access medical or care they should have maid option? If a family don't want to take care a disabled person or a person who is suffering mental health issues or any health problem or just want to inherit his or her money they should have this option? Family members can give some percentage of money to Healthcare professionals and employees/officer.

[@samnass]

There is no separation! There is an End!

[@detroitbaby161]

The process of death may not be dark, but where you end up afterwards maybe beyond dark indeed

[@shellbacksclub]

How can u be of sound mind to want this if ur mentally ill?

[@MuricaTurkey]

You can't. But Canada obviously doesn't care about common sense or basic ethics. They just want to be able to off people who are inconvenient. Absolutely demonically evil.

[@phoenixtoash2396]

Lol. Death is nature, part of birth and living is only an excuse to be wasting time.

[@fragjijreiosgeriota7509]

Depressed people with trauma such as myself are not crazy. We are highly intelligent and we suffer a lot. Just like someone in physical pain, ppl in emotional and psychic pain should have a safe compassionate way out.

[@phoenixtoash2396]

How can you claim to know a mind is sound unless it's your own.

[@phoenixtoash2396]

Untrue. You don't need to be insane or deranged... To want death. That is not right to even say. People die every day. You shouldn't think immortality is real. It's not. Science confirms this. It's called decay. People rightly request to leave this earth. It's not their choice to be born, they should at least have a basic human right to chose to opt out. Human being make living so impossible and suffering and pain so easy, that it is no longer deniable that it's forced life... And unfair. Who would want to stay on this earth? Really... Not a single moment has passed in my lifetime that wasn't filled with pain hurt and disappointment caused by others. Oppression, slavery, loss of everyone around you... No love.. no hope... Who wants to endure war after war, blood filled streets? Who opts for that is just in my opinion insane.

[@carsonchan5102]

This option is pragmatic. The government is broke and have been relying on money printing to run its deficit welfare program for the past 20 years now. I can't imagine there being free healthcare forever; especially so by the time I am old enough to need it. A clean painless death in old age seems like a very good option. Don't even have to worry about retirement funds.

[@Kashyap_Trivedi2]

A person is depressed because a family member has died and the person also wants to die. Is this fair? If a 25-year-old person is mentally and physically fit and has no health issues but feels like they have completed life and want to end it, is it okay them to do so? what about homeless poor people and people who is disabled? They want live but they don't have money to access medical or care they should have maid option? If a family don't want to take care a disabled person or a person who is suffering mental health issues or any health problem or just want to inherit his or her money they should have this option? Family members can give some percentage of money to Healthcare professionals and employees/officer

[@jennybardoville5455]

You may have since discovered that MAID deaths are similar to drowning while paralysed, far from painless or compassionate

[@WorldGoneKrazy]

What are they going to do next, fill the food banks with Soylent Green? 😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫🤮

[@edwardpamintuan]

"Compassion" "Healthcare" they really try to normalize this

[@aplcc323]

Thank you for your sanity

[@anastrixnoodles]

It's weird doctors helping in taking away someone's life that isn't terminally ill. Maybe sooner than they think a cure will be in clinical trials for them and they won't be there to try it. Wouldn't a doctor rather not do it? When does the "do not do harm" line end? isn't taking a life that has any glimpse of hope harmful?

[@fragjijreiosgeriota7509]

They are lying about chronic suffering that doesn’t end not being a terminal illness

[@painbrain1380]

​@@fragjijreiosgeriota7509so you're saying any physical suffering that's of chronic nature is by definition a terminal illness? I'm pro maid myself just didn't quite catch ur comment 👍

[@Kashyap_Trivedi2]

​@@painbrain1380A person is depressed because a family member has died and the person also wants to die. Is this fair? If a 25-year-old person is mentally and physically fit and has no health issues but feels like they have completed life and want to end it, is it okay them to do so? what about homeless poor people and people who is disabled? They want live but they don't have money to access medical or care they should have maid option? If a family don't want to take care a disabled person or a person who is suffering mental health issues or any health problem or just want to inherit his or her money they should have this option? Family members can give some percentage of money to Healthcare professionals and employees/officer

[@phoenixtoash2396]

@@Kashyap_Trivedi2 You know, I would then ask why would you look them in the eye and say some lame things like it'll get better. Or don't talk about it. Or what not. It isnt up to you. That is the point. It's the person who is asking for it. That is who feels it's the right time. No one else.

[@firstchoiceautonb5400]

Won’t prescribe anything like opioids but will let ya die makes no sense

[@Atreyufolife]

my meds sto working and I struggle making doctor's appointments let me go out how I want.

[@Greyman-x6d]

I appreciate the presenter being fairly impartial. I support freedom of choice for adults.

[@aplcc323]

Think deep about what you're saying... Really, think about it. It's a terrible blank check to give a state authority.

[@shokingu6963]

I was searching for material to write a important essay about euthanasia and this video really helped me a lot! Although I would love to explore a little deeper into the poverty thing since it is a very important point when talking about euthanasia. Other videos show cases of people with disabilities who don't really want to die, but opts for MAID because they cannot see any future at all because of poverty and, of course, their disabilities...

[@derks0]

bro... this is f'd

[@jennybardoville5455]

You may have since discovered that MAID deaths are similar to drowning while paralysed, far from painless or compassionate

[@aplcc323]

This will be known as a dark era for humanity...

[@GreatBigBore]

Anyone who stands by the mantra "my body, my choice" yet opposes self-termination in ANY context is a stinking hypocrite.

[@robinlindberg6339]

Sociopath!

[@corystarkiller]

I hope you're fighting for the people who don't want to take the covid vax then.

[@iMonsieurAnthony]

wb the pro-forced vaccine people?

[@Jennyzhou-x1t]

as a chinese , today I make an appointment for a doctor, and tomorrow i get to see the speacialist. I do not unserstand why in Canada, need to wait for so long time. But the bad thing in China is that the sickness like cancer treatment is not free, it can lead to bankcrupcy😂.so many poor people choose to die instead of getting treatment

[@aplcc323]

May God have mercy on them...

[@edwardpamintuan]

Moving away from what is being done currently isn't always "progress"

[@aplcc323]

Yeah... Moving away from the land and closer to the abyss sounds like what they mean by progress... If they don't revolt, this will only get worse...

[@lizbecker1677]

I think this is ok as described here, but I have concerns that over time MAID will evolve into causing these decisions to be made not by the person who is suffering, but by insurance companies or medical institutions that determine the patient can't pay for life-saving resources. I know there's a big gap in these two things right now, but I can't help but worry that this is opening the door for future abuse.

[@Consequence]

Canada is ALSO looking to lower the age of consent for assisted suicide to 12. Your worry is legitimate.

[@90skpoplover]

​@@ConsequenceI seriously doubt that they're considering lowering the age requirement to 12 or that low of a age. may I ask where you got your source from? pls don't tell me catholic news agency lol.

[@Consequence]

@@90skpoplover my responses to you are being deleted. Google it

[@latrinemarine826]

@@90skpoploverWhat’s wrong with Catholic News Agency? I’d show some more love to one of the only news agencies that doesn’t view your life through a cost-benefit analysis.

[@catherinewilson1079]

@@ConsequenceWhaaat?!?! Outrageous!!!

[@TheSilverlady1980]

Wasn’t long ago a doctor took an oath to “do no harm”. Many seeking assisted dying are doing so because there is no help. If I am denied my post cancer pain control after radiation melted massive nerves in my left ganglion area causing “electrocutions” every day! The stigma and the prejudice when a cancer patient in agony is treated like a drug addict is evil. Perfect,y good effective medications available to control this pain. I had to sell my paid in full humble home in the town I was born in (finally home) and move 800 km north to a Nurse Practitioner who doesn’t label patients and treat case by case as it should be. My cancer related radiation induced nerve damage is so well documented. But the doctors down in Chatham and Sarnia refused to take my urgent need for continued pain control after my doctor retired. Cancer patient forced to sell and move is wrong!! I miss my big yard, my apple trees, the friends I had made etc etc. Narcotics do have a proper place in medical care of severe pain. Nerves melted and will never stop misfiring. 18 months of horrible nerve block needles into my head, 4 surgeries to cut ablate external nerves, a wire stim implant couldn’t stop the tazzering. Even brain surgery could not stop the electrocutions surgeon said the ganglion was a melted mess like chewed bubblegum he could not identify which nerve was which. No options left but medication. My condition is called “suicide disease” because the level of pain is unbearable but my cause is not typical it was radiation melting burning the nerves and my teeth were turned to putty and all removed. I was only 47 years old. Well the oncologist who assured me radiation was harmless was wrong he needs to go back to school! Oncology was supposed to be his specialty and I trusted him. My life was destroyed teeth gone, massive nerves in my brain destroyed, and I am legally blind. Radiation is not harmless. If my meds are ever denied someone better be ready to “put me out of my misery”. If my pain go 9/10 or 10/10 I will be screaming crying begging to die. Our animals get better merciful end of life.

[@fragjijreiosgeriota7509]

I’m sorry you have suffered so much. I’m very fortunate I’m not that deep in my physical suffering and most OTC painkillers do something for me. I would like you to get compassionate health care. You have every right to be angry at the Trudeau-Singh government.

[@JackDavies-jk7ls]

So sorry to hear about that. You're a beautiful woman. Can we get to know more about each other?

[@aplcc323]

I pray that you get through it and that your life becomes an example of endurance. Resist, brother! No matter your pain, your life is worth living!

[@NotSoNormal1987]

When I am in a depressive episode, I am not of sound mind. I am afraid that during an epsode I would be given the green light to die instead of the treatment that I need. What safeguards are in place to save me when unwell instead of just letting me die? What if our health insurance offers assisted death, but not medications or other treatment options? Because for profit health care benefits if a patient dies instead of having to provide continued treatment.

[@Victorg-dr3sd]

They might asked for you to die funeral home are making big money from MAID.

[@mysterycomment1553]

Lies. Doctors have been caught asking patients about maid.

[@fragjijreiosgeriota7509]

I believe this happens but can you show me any news stories or just talk about personal experience?

[@mysterycomment1553]

@@fragjijreiosgeriota7509 well can’t really rely on news/media about this.

[@JRlafr]

This is just another option at the end of life. Some people do not know about it. What is wrong by informing them about it?

[@mysterycomment1553]

@@JRlafr it’s not near end of life when it’s just a depressed 20 year old. Give your head a shake.

[@kharikhy-ree2242]

​@@mysterycomment1553I see your point but if a 20 year old wishes to die and a 70 year old person wishes to die, why deny? Because you feel they have more to live for. No people who wish to end their lives know why.

[@Dan-kx4lp]

Anyone promoting MAID should first have to go through the program entirely before pushing it on others....there problem solved

[@flamingdelta9853]

This should be legal, if someone doesnt want to live they dont have to, im signing up for this once legal

[@phoenixtoash2396]

If legal at any point in any particular place that doesn't make you wait... I'd sign up for it so fast the furious wouldn't even get mad about it!

[@jennybardoville5455]

You may have since discovered that MAID deaths are similar to drowning while paralysed, far from painless or compassionate

[@Victorg-dr3sd]

​@@phoenixtoash2396I want maid so I can pass away fast.

[@laurendamos6651]

As a Canadian who has suffered with mental illness for the majority of my life, I can see both sides of the argument. However I agree that there must be a decent record of various treatments to combat the illness, that have failed before MAID is even an option. I'm not dismissing the ability of someone with mental illness being able to make a decision, but I know from experience that there can be a lot of factors that can quickly change the decision. I also fear that in more cases you would have vulnerable portions of society at a greater risk, and what I mean is individuals who don't have family support, financial means, access to proper care will be more likely to want MAID and that would be a failure of society to properly support and combat mental health as there are still many barriers. I do think it is important for MAID to be an option but the criteria must be more extensive in cases where mental illness is the issue, and I also don't believe that all illnesses that fall under mental illness should be an option or at least have a different set of criterias. Lastly I would add that in cases of mental illness there should be a standard of more than one provider agreeing to it, that to me would help with the validity and to stop someone from "shopping around". I have no concerns regarding the current use or situations with it in Canada.

[@mr.j410]

Why do we have to through s bunch of labs and tests. That's thr opposite of grace

[@Zuzu-f6e]

I agree that MAID is an option, I am closer to 60 years old no family, no friends, no job, no income I cannot have friends because I do not have anything to offer. I am tired. No treatment helps. MAID is an option I hope I do not reach 60 years, what options are for me none. The only help I need is love and support or barbaric treatment

[@Kashyap_Trivedi2]

A person is depressed because a family member has died and the person also wants to die. Is this fair? If a 25-year-old person is mentally and physically fit and has no health issues but feels like they have completed life and want to end it, is it okay them to do so? what about homeless poor people and people who is disabled? They want live but they don't have money to access medical or care they should have maid option? If a family don't want to take care a disabled person or a person who is suffering mental health issues or any health problem or just want to inherit his or her money they should have this option? Family members can give some percentage of money to Healthcare professionals and employees/officer.

[@jennybardoville5455]

You may have since discovered that MAID deaths are similar to drowning while paralysed, far from painless or compassionate

[@sea302]

​@@jennybardoville5455 Bingo. First they administrator a paralytic agent. Then comes the drugs that cause you to literally drown while trapped inside the body. The worst part is it takes two to twenty-four hours. If someone wants to end their life theyd be better off going under water and inhaling. This comes in the form of compassion but rather its torture and inhuman for the weak.

[@annettemoolman6504]

Viva Canada! This is a long overdue law in so many countries. Hope the others governments will follow.

[@jennybardoville5455]

You may have since discovered that MAID deaths are similar to drowning while paralysed, far from painless or compassionate

[@aplcc323]

I will no longer be a countryman of my nation if it decides to do this. Wake up, you are being manipulated into killing the disabled, the infants, the poor and the mentally ill... You are defending eugenics. WAKE UP!

[@niningsetia4213]

Thansk for ur share video God BLESS everyone Barakallah fiikum 😂😂❤❤❤

[@dalya1702]

?? Muslim supporting suicide??

[@LapinDebogues]

Health care in Canada is so bad that I can see people wanting to choose death if they can’t get help living life. There was a case of a disabled person offered MAID rather help her with getting them assistance hey needed to live.

[@fragjijreiosgeriota7509]

I advocate MAID but I believe situations like you described are not only highly inappropriate but it should qualify the doctor for disbarment and jail time.

[@Theaddora]

That guy seems just a little bit too happy about the whole thing. And Canada, I no longer consider a God fearing country.

[@solomonrivers5639]

Warning signs start going off in my head whenever I start to see cute abbreviations (MAiD) and “stigmatized” words getting replaced by sanitized “medical” terms happening in discussions about life and (literal) death issues.

[@aplcc323]

Right? But don't worry, no state in the world has ever abused his powers to manipulate the population into killing a large portion of itself, it's all good... Hey, look over there, it's Trump! Let's change the subject! *Hides your money in his drawer* Anyways, I heard you were broke. Have you ever heard of MAID?

[@sovcitwatch]

The 2024 deadline is now 2027. Because politics is more important that alleviating suffering

[@fragjijreiosgeriota7509]

Devastating

[@jennybardoville5455]

You may have since discovered that MAID deaths are similar to drowning while paralysed, far from painless or compassionate. Perhaps this is being properly debated and decisions about whether to tell people what they're signing up for

[@HeatherHopfinger]

What is dignified about euthanasia nothing you are not so above the law you can be prosecuted truth

[@romanianisraeli]

I am hoping to qualify for maid in April based on my mental disability.

[@tcaDNAp]

That must be a hard choice to make, and I can understand the feeling of wanting to die, but I wonder if MAiD would be seen the same way if everyone had some mental disability... Do you think a society with more access and equal treatment would make it easier for people to live with mental disabilities, or is there another cause that you wish would change?

[@pandapooh1668]

Please do evaluate your decision thoroughly, do what you want but try to see some good in your life, realize you do have value, no matter what your circumstances may be. Even if you don’t want to continue, please please try to have some good experiences before you make up your mind. I understand the feeling but do continue trying and at least try to experience some good so you can be at peace. I wish you the best, no matter what your decision may be. ❤️

[@antinatalistwitch111]

I hope all your dreams come true and it's peaceful

[@TreayoniaStokes]

Lmk if you’re still alive after April.

[@phoenixtoash2396]

​@@pandapooh1668If there had ever been one good thing in this life. .. ever... Then yeah sure .. but so far ain't seen any good at all. Humans are the most vial evil creatures. And I am completely ashamed to be one.

[@BeateFrdrkzn]

♥️💯👍❤️‍🔥

[@elliemariesal]

What about dementia

[@Jay.B.2046]

👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

[@Sumtingwongbruh123]

Just fking legalize it and speed up the country

[@aplcc323]

Speed up the country? Dude, you're saying the quiet part out loud! Shuush

[@Art-talk]

And then there is this video which puts different light on the thing..."The Horrifying Truth Behind MAID They Aren't Telling You"...honestly ...who knows.

[@KarenLee-m4o]

Coming to the united states soon here..maybe for some terminal illness..when there is no quality of life..your going to suffer with horrible pain..then I say yes I wouldn't want to live with a terminal illness..I'd want to get it over with quickly..I've been hearing rumors that there are other people on the list..people that they don't tell you..when I was in the library using the computer..I ran into an article that spoke about getting rid of people..handicapped people anybody with a disability..they don't care how small the disability is..they want these people dead or into state-owned institutions..elderly people over sixty..they don't care if these people still work..they are old considered useless worthless to society..homeless people are already coming up missing permanently..no one cares because they are homeless..they have been taking children away from people on welfare for years now..the library printed this article out.. before the site was taken down..yes I've been called crazy.. a conspiracy theorist that I should be locked into a mental institution..people with a mental illness is also on the list..I want to slap people awake..each state has its own laws..I'm in Arkansas and they already have been taking people away..I've seen state of Arkansas car's on my dead end Street..department of social services.. well over half of the people on my street ..are either elderly handicap or unfortunately on welfare.. I get Social Security disability and windows pension myself..

[@aplcc323]

God bless you and your family, I hope you get better and, if you don't, I know you have the strength to resist anything that life throws at you

[@KarenLee-m4o]

@@aplcc323 what part of they want people dead don't you get

[@HunterB738]

Hurry up and let me go already. I’m no good! I’m a burden to the world. I was ready this year. Now I have to wait 3 more.

[@cesarpena8609]

Why though, what are you going through?

[@whos1st]

This is the road to Aktion T-4 and it won’t end well.

[@goldentiger1841]

Canada is done !

[@goldnr4cc00n7]

The internet might hack you into maid.. like coverup death certificate issues. I’m non mental health eligibility pro. Like mental health is not completely terminal, when also acquired, and technology advances.

[@goldnr4cc00n7]

Being depressed seems a way to remove useless citizens, for ableist movements coverups international certificate bases and us can relations or some pop control issues if mental health is involved.

[@goldnr4cc00n7]

Externally from foreign influence. Like some religious checkers? Online for safe guards?

[@goldnr4cc00n7]

Let’s not overlook eco-pollution effects on healthcare.

[@goldnr4cc00n7]

Nah I think some of this mental health is from their mistreatment of others if aquired as a diagnosis later in life. And then kinda letting them exit as if it’s an expendable ethic.

[@Kristina.Butterfly]

Help me

[@PatriciaPeterson-rg5mp]

16 is not 18 or older. Sick country

[@quryshna]

when the catholic church controls palliative care AND a lack of hope could get a person labelled as mentally unfit, the compassion gets tossed out of the window. the catholic church is playing gatekeeper and that's not okay. a family member had to pay to be moved from hospice to the hospital to get MAID just because the facility, being owned and operated by the catholic church, wouldn't allow the procedure to take place there. let me stress this point: my family member had to pay to be moved from hospice to the hospital the catholic church should not be forcing people to abide by the religion and they shouldn't be able to give diagnoses based on their religion's criteria. that's not compassionate. that's not ethical.

[@OofusTwillip]

Funny how the Church considers medically assisted death to be "interfering with God's power over life and death", but it insists that doing everything possible to prolong life, isn't.

[@quryshna]

that whole 'god decides when people die' rhetoric is extremely dangerous and has no place in health care. to believe in such rhetoric is fine. forcing it on everyone is immoral and, yet, par for course with the church

[@fragjijreiosgeriota7509]

I wanted to work in a hospice in my 20s. I was very compassionate. I would love to be a friendly safe presence for a lonely suffering person who wanted to die but didn’t have anyone in their lives (family) to die with. I would have been great for the job.

[@aplcc323]

Nonononono... The government is not at liberty to decide what a catholic church owned building offered as services. It is clear that euthanasia is a terrible moral sin, an abomination against the creator, and the catholic church is under no obligation to feed your delusional support for eugenics. Wake up buddy, you're being lied to...

[@7ElevenTruther]

​@@OofusTwillipLmao yeah, if the catholic church diddlers truly feel that way, then maybe they should sell off all their hospitals and be content with nature running it's course when people get sick or injured.

[@meganhoward8820]

As someone who is chronically depressed, life feels like the longest shift at the worst job ever. Its exhausting. My body hurts, my mind hurts, life hurts with everything and nothing all at the same time. Its frustrating and complicated. Today i wish this was available. Tomorrow though who knows... But today it seems like the kindest thing anyone could do for me. I would do it myself if it wasnt for the ones left behind to clean up and thats not fair. So im stuck wishing today i could use maid.

[@edwardpamintuan]

Is this truly the only answer for you? Nothing else helps? Just trying to understand what I can

[@Victorg-dr3sd]

You can go to Canada to sign up for maid.

[@aplcc323]

Look up, you are not alone. You're sick and you need to completely change your life! What do you have to loose? If you want to, why not live as long as you can? Sell your belongings, go do something useful for the world, place yourself in the most horrifying places in the world in other to help those who need you, and if you die in the process, you would die serving humanity. That is better than killing yourself, think about it. Offer your life to something higher!

[@meganhoward8820]

@edwardpamintuan I've done at least 15 years of medicine and therapy and nothing really changes. So I would say yes this might be the only answer in the end. But as I said I know rationally it's not the right one. Ethically it's not the right one either. I feel like I'm stuck. Just spinning in place because I have to be here. Like it's some kind of job I'm not allowed to quit. I will be here to usher the other bits where they need to be until one day they no longer need me to function. I don't per say want to remove myself from the machine but I wish sometimes that maybe I could fall out of place or maybe plucked out.

[@meganhoward8820]

@Victorg-dr3sd I live in Canada and no you can't until March 2027 but it will be pushed back again because it's not ethically appropriate to provide this service to mental health or poor people.

[@MNP208]

Hmmm, this seems like a very grey area. I'm all for MAID when a patient has incurable cancer, heart failure, etc. Currently, I have a relative in the US who is going to suffer from air hunger before passing. In my opinion, this is cruel. In some states, we treat our pets better than our humans here. I hope that mental health patients are *required* to seek counseling, medications, etc before this is allowed. Many patients are successfully treated for mental health disorders.

[@rachelmarkham6286]

Of COURSE they will require counseling and medications. Just like chemo and radiation are treatment for cancer, therapy and counseling are treatment for someone with a mental health disorder. They won't even need counseling about assisted suicide it because they have been going through counseling the whole time.

[@SilentRunningRedux]

Please see my reply to “echo foxtrot…” above. I wish I could edit it. Rough patch for me, so this may be disorganized or repetitive, with typos. On a good day I can do my former best - today is not that day. People often are ignorant of how difficult the situation is, how persistent, etc. Typically they react from their own fear or state for you the platitudes they believe make them into heroes for sharing what you’ve heard time and time again. I am NOT saying you should take the step under discussion [I would have no idea, only you ultimately with any deity of you have religious beliefs]. It’s only with a great deal of humility, that I might begin to imagine your pain [or someone else’s, or the person whom I know best, myself]. REPLYING to your concise summary of your own situation, I will likely write more length, having a very long rough time of my own. I am glad you spoke up, despite being sad at what you report/contributed here. I issue this reply to say two things: (1) I CARE about you. (2) Good for you for speaking up, as I tried to reply to a comment on October 15, to someone maintaining all depressed people are incapable of being rational [see above]. That’s not accurate factually and it may lead one to potentially greater suffering, or exhaustion. Some are logical/rational, some not… as with many people with other “diagnoses” or no diagnosis. Some of us are dealt multiple “bad hands” for no apparent reason. Above I referred in answer to the Oct. 15 comment by “echofoxtrot…” with reference to the reasoning of the Swiss Supreme Court [best read in the original, not my paraphrase]. It’s a jump online to the German; auto-translation [free] yields a good result; the last few pages deal with “mental illnesses” with particular attention to longstanding severe depression. The court from my reading considers it factually correct that many depressed people are “logical.” Sadly, while some of the organizations in that country may consider such a legally authorized application, it is not easy. But I can see why it should not be. They recognize that finances may dwindle precisely due to being unwell. And depending on whether that’s happened, it can be costly. They charge fees that make sense, given what they apparently actually do AND also they are legally prohibited from “profiting” financially in any way from assisting. The Swiss take safeguards seriously and need reams of supporting material, plus meetings with the actual human beforehand; this is a profound process and they know it. They require lots of documentation, evidence of rationality/logic, longstanding suffering, etc, and yet to avoid people being pushed or without actual consent to having their lives taken to please or convenience others, that makes sense. Further, it should be obvious but many people make the mistake of thinking these are “on demand” services “for a reasonable fee and some documentation”; but nothing could be further from how it works in countries in Europe [except maybe one of them, and then only for its own citizens; that nation, Belgium, allows euthanasia, including for mental agony/mental illness]. Switzerland does not allow euthanasia AT ALL, for anyone, and its federal Supreme Court states depressed people CAN be rational yet for many reasons these cases are the ones they insist be extremely strong and highly documented. No one who has “legal authority” to assist in a suicide in Switzerland is ever obliged to grant the request, either. They have to feel satisfied with documents and meetings with an applicant that this profound step [though we all die] is justified on humanitarian grounds. Some countries listed in *this video* [on MAID in Canada for mental illness] allow euthanasia but I believe none allows it to a foreign national; further, to be clear as I mentioned the country, euthanasia is NOT legal in Switzerland for anyone *regardless of nationality*. In Switzerland one may get a provisional application completed but from *the start and to the end* one must be rational, logical, not feel pressured. If a person is without any supportive family [or has lost all family members or never knew them], friends can come, or if none, volunteer witnesses. The organizations - 5, I think - provide witnesses. While it’s legal in the countries they’ve listed, AND in Switzerland [and a few other countries listed] those assisting in this work are numerous on anyone’s particular case. The Swiss organizations in particular appear to be profoundly serious and will turn away people, sometimes allowing one to apply again later I think… And a significant percentage of those who get approved for assistance decide not to go through with it. No one pressures anyone, including at the last step. It is filmed in part or wholly, I suppose to prove it is voluntary and rational. These medical/pharmacy professionals are not “Lucy Letby” killers. [An accused ‘serial killer,’ a UK nurse who now has been convicted in connection with deaths of infant[s]. Afterward, your embassy [and local law enforcement] are informed for legal purposes. Some can manage cremation if acceptable, unless you want your body returned for some reason to your home country. 🌠 I find this is realism, and as such it is or can be kind, gentle, without the risk of failing in the attempt. The Swiss example - just one - entails many required steps that CANADA’s MAID LAW DOES NOT REQUIRE (creating a real danger of people feeling Canadanian society is now forcing them to die, which I most surely hope you do not experience now or ever, with what sounds like inordinate pain of long duration). PS, *I am not a troll *; * I am NOT encouraging you to leave earlier than your body will carry you forward. I TRY NOT TO BE JUDGMENTAL MYSELF, yet do think “reprehensible” the WORDS AND ACTS OF AN AMERICAN TEENAGE WOMAN [ 17 yr old ] who in the period 2010-2020 urged a teenaged boy to “get back” into his truck (with exhaust running into it) so he would die (and he did), *deserved strong punishment*. Such cruelty [shown in her case, fairly uncontrovertibly] is up there with the dismissive judgment meted out against people who like you, I imagine (do not know) would prefer their lives to be good again but cannot just flip a switch or “work harder”or “have a better attitude” or “find religion.” *Many of those with severe depression have during their lives already made themselves quite useful to others, and enjoyed life. They often have tried to stay there, or return there [or get there], with no luck*. Nor have they always had enough help, or competent help [whatever that means], even if they themselves did help others earlier in their own lives (and/or continue to try). *Life is not fair*. That said, *I wish to emphasize that I hope you do not continue to feel as you do now*.* I would not wish that on you, and probably not on anyone else. I think I might know some of what you feel… (humbly). Epistemologically what I can know is limited, which is why I believe in “safeguards” but not disrespect for others’ autonomy and humanity. I wish you peace. I don’t know why I care about others, only that I do. Nearly all that I have stated here already is on KZbin, posted as “content.” [That penultimate point is for the censors, “ if any’ including in algorithms.] I HOPE YOU UNDERSTAND I RELATE TO YOU (epistemological problems aside), WHICH MEANS I HOPE YOU STAY, as long as your body allows. I TRY TO IMAGINE YOUR PAIN… NOT A STRANGER TO WHAT YOU SAY, nor to bizarre challenges, harm, “losses.” My making any of this about myself is selfish or self-involved; I own up to that. I HAVE KNOWN MANY DECENT PEOPLE WHO EXPRESS WORDS LIKE YOURS. Some remain. I am grateful you are in the world to give voice so much more concisely, to how difficult life can be - and to challenge others politely as you have. @@Tubinado

[@Kashyap_Trivedi2]

​@@rachelmarkham6286A person is depressed because a family member has died and the person also wants to die. Is this fair? If a 25-year-old person is mentally and physically fit and has no health issues but feels like they have completed life and want to end it, is it okay them to do so? what about homeless poor people and people who is disabled? They want live but they don't have money to access medical or care they should have maid option? If a family don't want to take care a disabled person or a person who is suffering mental health issues or any health problem or just want to inherit his or her money they should have this option? Family members can give some percentage of money to Healthcare professionals and employees/officer.

[@bipolargamechanger]

You sound way too excited talking about this. If this were legal when I was diagnosed, I'd be dead. This is not a good thing for neurodiverse people. They suggest it to people in the psych ward (before it was paused).

[@sreid4313]

I like that you took two perspectives but MAID directly contradicts the Hippocratic oath to do no harm. Perpetual physical suffering is different than reversable mental anguish, and still questionable, but with a rising level of mental health issues in Canada, if someone is depressed, they will certainly be considering this this form of suicide. Supporting suicide in such a case in entirely unethical. How far we have fallen...

[@OhBoy-zy5bc]

You don’t know if mental illness is reversible.

[@sreid4313]

@@OhBoy-zy5bc Many "mental illnesses" are not biological afflictions. Depression has no deterministic basis in biology. Medication can help in some instances with the symptoms, but not the crux of the issue. When people are depressed, they are in a vulnerable state where they do not have full access to their amygdala and prefrontal cortex, responsible for regulating mood and decision-making, respectively. This is entirely reversible. Do some research before supporting tax payer-funded eugenics.

[@fragjijreiosgeriota7509]

Doctors violate Hippocratic oath all the time. So many doctors close to me took bribes to not give proper health care when ordered to from bureaucrats who are Freemasons

[@aplcc323]

Thank you for your sanity... God have mercy on us all...

[@nancygharib938]

I am certainly pro MAID, a human being life’s is their life and no one should judge if they should live or die. To live with dignity or die with dignity is an individual’s own choice. I think if we should have a debate then debate those who are dying because if wars when they truly wanted to live. This is the debate to stand up for and defend.

[@Tobytobers1]

wait till you stop paying taxes are considered a burden to the health system...and then see what you are offered;.

[@latrinemarine826]

What about the terminally ill infants or those infants that are thought to only have a short time to live. Do they get to decide if they want to die, or are you for post birth abortion now?

[@Kashyap_Trivedi2]

A person is depressed because a family member has died and the person also wants to die. Is this fair? If a 25-year-old person is mentally and physically fit and has no health issues but feels like they have completed life and want to end it, is it okay them to do so? what about homeless poor people and people who is disabled? They want live but they don't have money to access medical or care they should have maid option? If a family don't want to take care a disabled person or a person who is suffering mental health issues or any health problem or just want to inherit his or her money they should have this option? Family members can give some percentage of money to Healthcare professionals and employees/officer

[@LillianStrong-x1b]

Stop having children!!!

[@lw1zfog]

Eugenics in Chinada

[@bobross6593]

Compassion? 2 shots... first is a paralytic.... so you are paralyzed when the 2nd shot is administered. The lungs fill with fluid... you basically drown to death, you can't fight it, can't yell. Does not seem compassionate to me

[@echofoxtrot2.051]

Absolutely insane. A depressed person can't think clearly. Since when do we pay doctors to stop saving patients. Of course it's for "the good of the patient". Really? Then do it at no cost.

[@SilentRunningRedux]

Most depressed people CAN think clearly, logically. The Swiss Supreme Court - federal not one canon alone but speaking for all - has explicitly allowed this based on FACTS about depression [and other mental conditions]. They are not wrong. They do address mental illnesses at the end of the decision, which you can find on Wikipedia in German and if you don’t read that language then BOTH GOOGLE & Apple have good auto-translation for free. The court DOES state there should be a particularly strong case made in cases of “mental illness.” They have safeguards while Canadians with mental illness may be as the presenters here say “looking to escape poverty,” bc disability benefits for mentally ill non-suicidal people are insufficient for most to survive on without supports from others, and not all have well-off supporters [family with money or friends willing to take them in].

[@bigfookingun]

When you spend more than a decade without control over your own body, in constant pain, and with nothing to look forward to except a long, drawn out death, come back and tell me this is insane. Oh you don't need to be six months terminal to know I'm going to have a horrible death. Please stop blocking people's only way to end their suffering. Your opinions and votes change policy.

[@devonmackify]

"Since when do we pay doctors to stop saving patients"...this happens every day when doctors tell families that it is best to let their loved ones go. The practice has always existed...just under regular hospital care.

[@90skpoplover]

Not as insane as you pro-lifers along with the typical religious fanatics trying to prolong people's suffering while also not trying AT ALL to improve or fix the social circumstances/economic circumstances that make people opt for euthanasia. maybe we wouldn't be where we are now but yeah it's "absolutely insane" that people who have suffer for how long for not wanting to suffer anymore and deciding when they want to die on their own terms

[@micgooflander95]

That's just completely untrue and prejudicial. If it were true, there would be no functioning societies any more, considering how high the prevalence of so-called 'depression' is, as everyone would either need to be tended to in a nursing home for the rest of their life, or staffing the nursing homes. We call the suicidal "depressed" to invalidate their beliefs and their will. Just as homosexuality was in the DSM as a mental illness to justify opposition of gay rights on the same kind of paternalistic grounds on which the right to die is opposed. In both cases, oppression against an individual's fundamental civil liberties is disguised as protection of vulnerable people who lack the capacity for discernment. Not surprising that someone with a picture of an eagle in their avatar would fall for that.

[@AnitaKozlowski]

This is another genocidal measure

[@guillermoelnino]

Sure, it's free, until y ou r life is the cost.

[@pushingbroom]

WE need to make MaiD easier to access. We need walk-in MaiD clinics or same easy process as abortion. Stop blocking access to this.

[@HeatherHopfinger]

Anyone who assist in euthanasia has no heart

[@TreayoniaStokes]

Oh please!

[@phoenixtoash2396]

Anyone who assists has a soul!

[@fragjijreiosgeriota7509]

That’s not true. We need doctors who help us compassionately. I would live euthanasia. I have suffered for over 30 years, without a single birthday greeting since childhood from anyone other than my abusive mom.

[@Victorg-dr3sd]

@@fragjijreiosgeriota7509 I want maid how do I sign up for it to not suffer no more.

[@Victorg-dr3sd]

@@phoenixtoash2396 I want maid also.

[@shellbacksclub]

I don't agree with the practice for patients not suffering from an incurable disease! Too far!

[@phoenixtoash2396]

Why not? If I know my life is not worthy of this earth. That is my right. Not a right that belongs to anyone else. Trying to keep me on this dumb planet is like holding me hostage. Are you a keeper of people like a zoo keeper?

[@Kashyap_Trivedi2]

@@phoenixtoash2396 A person is depressed because a family member has died and the person also wants to die. Is this fair? If a 25-year-old person is mentally and physically fit and has no health issues but feels like they have completed life and want to end it, is it okay them to do so? what about homeless poor people and people who is disabled? They want live but they don't have money to access medical or care they should have maid option? If a family don't want to take care a disabled person or a person who is suffering mental health issues or any health problem or just want to inherit his or her money they should have this option? Family members can give some percentage of money to Healthcare professionals and employees/officer.

[@skyrimwarrior]

Doctors and practitioners will always let them back out at the last min. %90 of all Maid applications are always turned in the other direction before inception and approval.

[@jennybardoville5455]

You may have since discovered that MAID deaths are similar to drowning while paralysed, far from painless or compassionate. This means MAID would have to become transparent so that people can make informed decisions

[@loumcboy]

Do homeless people or drug junkies qualify for this?

[@Noname-bs3uv]

I heard somewhere that they wanted to include drug addicts

[@capeverdeanprincess4444]

@@Noname-bs3uvFake news.

[@lahair5751]

Yes. See a non governmental documentary on this. Canada offered MAID to a Canadian soldier with PTSD who called a suicide line for help. True story.

[@fragjijreiosgeriota7509]

Regarding the homeless thing: I believe you can in theory only get MAID when it’s available in hospital or hospice. The hospital or hospice would be the new ‘home’ for the homeless person so lack of address should not be an issue. For drug addicts I truly believe we can help them and they do not need to turn to MAID to end their suffering.

[@phoenixtoash2396]

@@fragjijreiosgeriota7509 some I know are only doing those things to die legally in the first place.