How Car Dealerships Rip You Off (The Truth)

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Marko - WhiteBoard Finance

Marko - WhiteBoard Finance

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@whatsyourdealbruh
@whatsyourdealbruh 5 жыл бұрын
I walked into a dealership and told the sales guy that I was "going to buy a car today". When we couldn't reach a deal and I started to leave he said "I thought you said you were buying a car today." My reply was "I didn't say I was going to buy it here."
@robreeto
@robreeto 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@TranslatedAssumption
@TranslatedAssumption 5 жыл бұрын
Ooooo big bad car buyer, why waste your time at that dealership then? Sounds like something a total db would do.
@rich17279
@rich17279 5 жыл бұрын
What music was playing in your head when you dreamt that scenario
@epiksar
@epiksar 5 жыл бұрын
Ben Chesterman what does that have to do with this conversation?
@TheMagache
@TheMagache 5 жыл бұрын
The key is to waste as as much of the salesman's time as possible. Drag the sale on for a month or 2.
@jseden
@jseden 4 жыл бұрын
My grandfather always said "no one is doing you a favor by taking your money"
@buddyfennell4402
@buddyfennell4402 4 жыл бұрын
Love this
@jseden
@jseden 4 жыл бұрын
Buddy Fennell thanks. definitely miss him.. he was also find of saying "and if a frog had wings, it wouldn't bump it's ass on the ground".. also "horsecock!" In place of bullshit. Retired army Colonel.. had a bunch of colorful sayings
@42lookc
@42lookc 4 жыл бұрын
I've always said, "You can break even watching TV", meaning you won't get ripped off if you don't enter into any kind of agreement. I like your Grampa's version more.
@jseden
@jseden 4 жыл бұрын
42lookc thanks! He was a smart guy and I'm grateful to have known him
@Quantum3691
@Quantum3691 4 жыл бұрын
@@jseden Yeah, I remember the "frog" phrase from the movie Raising Arizona with Nicholas Cage. "If a frog had wings, he wouldn't bump his ass-a-hoppin". 😂 Your grandpa was a classic old timer.
@sfbrown69
@sfbrown69 5 жыл бұрын
The more you shop for a car, the more you like what you're already driving.
@ruinunes8251
@ruinunes8251 5 жыл бұрын
Steve Brown agree with you unless what you are already driving is a piece of junk. 😃
@mr.f4832
@mr.f4832 5 жыл бұрын
@@ruinunes8251 brother you know how true this is !!!!
@ruinunes8251
@ruinunes8251 5 жыл бұрын
Mr.F I know man. I’m looking for a car to replace my old tired civic, but the more I read about new cars the more I want to keep my old one.
@mr.f4832
@mr.f4832 5 жыл бұрын
@@ruinunes8251 im in a 2012 GTI but looking for a 2000 civic EK lol
@ruinunes8251
@ruinunes8251 5 жыл бұрын
Mr.F Nice. Go for it.
@lonewanderer3603
@lonewanderer3603 3 жыл бұрын
When I bought my last car, I negotiated the price of the car first. I said I wasn't sure if I wanted to trade in or have 2 cars. I also had my own financing through a credit union. When it came to my trade, I had already decided I needed $6500. I asked for $8000. They told me they couldn't pay $8000 because they'd never sell it for $10,000. I stood up and said if I couldn't get $8000 I couldn't afford the vehicle and I might as well leave. He played the whole, "let me talk to the manager" schtick. He came back and I got $7200 for my trade. A week later, I got on their website and my car was listed at $11,500. These guys are snakes but it is possible to get a decent deal. I'd say the number one thing is, don't get emotional and don't let your excitement for a new car turn you into a sucker. Be prepared to leave. That paper isn't a contract so it means fuck all even if you initial it.
@michaelgarro1668
@michaelgarro1668 2 жыл бұрын
I went around to all the dealers around here collecting trade in offers for my truck. One dealer had the car I wanted, checked the VIN on KBB and saw it was priced 4k under market value (it's been on their lot for over 100 days), and when time came for trade in appraisal I told them 44k or Im outta here. They finally came back and said they could do 43k. Took the deal. The truck is listed for 45.5 and has been sitting on their lot for awhile now.
@shady9295
@shady9295 Жыл бұрын
You think their not going to make a profit on a trade in? Do you not know how a business is ran? Plus if they had to do any work, routine maintenance, detail. Pay their workers , commission for the sales guy, pay the electric bill to keep all the lights on… and still make profit from that??
@trizzysmeez3698
@trizzysmeez3698 Жыл бұрын
​@Shady thank you brother. Somebody understands
@Itslewcario
@Itslewcario Жыл бұрын
Bitches want shit for free 😭
@TriggaPapi24
@TriggaPapi24 Жыл бұрын
It's not a snake deal. If you knew more about ACV value and clean trade retail fair market etc.... every dealership knows someone is gonna come in and negotiate price you set it for a fair price that way while it's being taxed on the lot you have aome room for error. Stop complaining about a profit the US moves on profits. There is a difference between getting ripped off and coming to an agreement.
@cranehead48
@cranehead48 4 жыл бұрын
As soon as a salesman says,"I'm gonna be honest with you", RED FLAG!!!
@peterking2651
@peterking2651 4 жыл бұрын
Said every guy ”I won’t come in your mouth” (yeah I know about the spelling)
@ryanw.975
@ryanw.975 4 жыл бұрын
the signal salesman start lying
@keithjohnson4420
@keithjohnson4420 4 жыл бұрын
I always say that though and I don’t lie to my customers so should I change my whole vocabulary cause someone else screwed over a guy?
@cahivx
@cahivx 4 жыл бұрын
Haha that implies you're not always honest?
@keithjohnson4420
@keithjohnson4420 4 жыл бұрын
Charles Hummer I am ? Like I really do try to help my customers out. I drive an hour to get to my job and love working there. It’s way better than being a factory supervisor like I was before. I think it depends whether your going to a big dealership or an independent dealership.
@jashton8710
@jashton8710 5 жыл бұрын
None of the dealerships I dealt with used the 4 square method....they used the all-the-numbers-mixed-up-in-a-single-column-so-I-couldn't-tell-what-was-going-on method. Equally effective.
@WhiteBoardFinance
@WhiteBoardFinance 5 жыл бұрын
LOL!
@deus555
@deus555 5 жыл бұрын
LMAO
@terra___photo
@terra___photo 5 жыл бұрын
J Ashton 😂😂😂
@AnnetteLynnG
@AnnetteLynnG 5 жыл бұрын
Same.
@andygarcia3585
@andygarcia3585 5 жыл бұрын
J Ashton 😂💀
@deathwrenchcustom
@deathwrenchcustom 5 жыл бұрын
I went to a dealership a few years ago and told the salesman that I was just looking for a new toy. He asked what my budget was, and I said $30k max. I didn't mind doing that, because I know what cars are worth, and I've been around the block enough times that I'm not going to get suckered in. We ended up test-driving a 500hp supercharged Shelby Mustang that I KNEW was well over $30k, but I just wanted to see where this would go. Lol... so we sit down in his cube, and he tells me that he can get me into the car for $41k. He tried to pull all kinds of tricks to make me think that it wasn't that much different than $30k (you know, because numbers don't really MEAN anything...). I ended up walking out. He called me for like two weeks after that, and I finally told him, "Look, dude. I was ready to spend 30 grand on something I don't even need. You could have made an easy sale, but instead you got greedy. So now you don't get shit. And stop calling me." 😆
@WhiteBoardFinance
@WhiteBoardFinance 5 жыл бұрын
LOL
@johnlyn1
@johnlyn1 5 жыл бұрын
That's biggest problem with dealerships. Inexperienced sales people that never get proper training. You told him your budget and he's wasting time showing a car way above your budget. A good sales person would have never let you test drive a vehicle that was over your budget.
@IamBlackMagic03
@IamBlackMagic03 5 жыл бұрын
Had a similar experience. Saw a 2015 mustang gt with only 700 miles on it. I setup an appointment to test drive. I get there and they immediately have me test drive a brand new 2019 gt and a 2019 roush. I told him I wasn't here for that and he responds well we just want you to see what else was available. So I test drove them and when I was done he asked "so what do you think? Want to talk numbers?"... I said "yeah, on the 2015 i originally came to test drive! I can afford the other 2 but i dont want to pay that. So either give me numbers on the 2015gt or I'm out!". He realized their little try to up sale game wasnt working and threw away the numbers he had the finance guy work up while I was test driving the other two. I think he realized I was on the verge of getting pissed off so tightened up and finally let me test drive the 2015 and gave me numbers on it.
@johnlyn1
@johnlyn1 5 жыл бұрын
@@IamBlackMagic03 The funny thing is he was actually down selling you as far it effects the dealership because there is more profit on used than new. They may have had the Roush marked up but the new 2019 GT would have made them nothing since those are a dime a dozen and have little mark up. Used is where they make the money. On average dealers lose between $100 to $200 per new car. They can make an average of $2,000 to $3,000 on used cars. By having you drive new over the used one you were interested in, the salesman was costing himself money where had you bought the new he would have only made his mini deal which ranges between $75 to $150 commission depending on dealership vs an average of 25% commission on $2,000 to $3,000 on used where he could make $500 to $750 commission selling the used vs a mini deal making between $75 to $150 selling the used. Just another case on an inexperienced sales person that was never properly trained.
@algallego
@algallego 5 жыл бұрын
@@johnlyn1 Realtors do the exact same thing to homebuyers. Their goal is to drain you of every last penny they can squeeze from your pre-approved lender amount. If you can afford $500K, don't tell them that, if you want a house for $300K; tell them that $300K is your absolute ceiling. Just because you are lender pre-approved for a certain amount, don't max it out, that's just as dumb as maxing out your credit cards for the next 15-30 years and only making monthly payments! Every deal is designed to enslave you for the longest term possible to milk you for everything you're worth to the dealer during that negotiation.
@joethebar1
@joethebar1 3 жыл бұрын
My daughter learned the hard way a few weeks ago. I went with her and was not nice to anyone at the dealership, I knew she wasn’t getting a great deal but she didn’t care- she was happy enough. Fast forward a week- we were waxing her car and she popped the trunk, only to find some lug nuts in a package. She asked” what are these?” “ they’re the factory lug nuts; the dealer took them off and replaced them with locking ones.” I said “ remember those fees I was bitching about? The ones you said I was being unreasonable about? The dealer charged you $495 dollars for those... you could have bought them for $30 and did it yourself.” Point made. Mic drop. Suddenly, I’m a genius
@kookiemonsta6409
@kookiemonsta6409 Жыл бұрын
Bro what was her reaction when you told her 🤣
@ThatsJustEric
@ThatsJustEric Жыл бұрын
​@@kookiemonsta6409 everybody clapped
@trizzysmeez3698
@trizzysmeez3698 Жыл бұрын
🤔
@TriggaPapi24
@TriggaPapi24 Жыл бұрын
I don't think you know what you just said 😂😂😂
@trizzysmeez3698
@trizzysmeez3698 Жыл бұрын
You a jackass. Figured I'd come back here and tell you this. You have no clue what you are talking buddy
@daviddubinsky868
@daviddubinsky868 4 жыл бұрын
Went to a dealer last week. The finance guy offered me a loan at $350/mo. I asked what the interest rate was. As if it didn't matter he said the rate was 5 or 6%. I told him my credit union already approved me at 3.25%. He said "oh, I can do that".
@alvinsimba734
@alvinsimba734 4 жыл бұрын
@Simon I think the dude above meant a year older than the new one for example 2020.instead of.2021.
@triplegt6
@triplegt6 3 жыл бұрын
Never Ever finance through the dealership. They will get deals with banks, and then add points on the interest rate. Always get pre approval from your bank or credit union before going to buy , then finance through them !
@dianatamayo5089
@dianatamayo5089 3 жыл бұрын
I did the same and I was like lower a car from 18 to 15
@eXGaming4u
@eXGaming4u 5 жыл бұрын
I've bought cars for many ppl in my family and I truly believe I got better deals than most folks can. Never trade-in a car at the dealership. Sell the car privately, take that money and use that towards down payment. You're somewhat right on most of these Marko. But I'll give some more pointers: 1. Do thorough research on the car you want to buy. Compare prices between dealers and private sale price for that car. By this time, you should get a ballpark idea of overpriced and good priced deals. 2. I'm going to argue with Marko about "bring your own financing". That doesn't work anymore as most dealership can beat your own finance and use that against you. Ex: You bring your pre-approval that's 4.5% APR. Dealers probably would have given you 2.9% but now since they saw your 4.5%, they'll offer you 4% and say we can give you a better interest rate than your bank! 3. However, do get pre-approved to see if you qualify but keep that to yourself. (carry the pre-approval with you and use it in the END if dealers won't give you better APR) 4. Go to dealership END of the month... maybe last 2-3 days of the month because they are desperate to meet their sales goal. 5. Do not go on WEEKENDS, go on a rainy weekday where there won't be much customers. Which means they need the sale. 6. Like Marko said, never negotiate "monthly payment", negotiate the price of the car. if you done your research, you should already know how much your monthly cost would be. 7. Haggle them in every situation. Offer low price, offer Drive-out price (out-the-door). 8. If they don't give you the car for the price you are asking and you want to agree to what they offered, say "OK, I'll accept that ONLY if you include.. XXXX. That means you can ask for extended warranty, 1-year maintenance, accessories..etc..whatever you want, try to get them with the included price. 9. Never be afraid to WALK-OUT of the deal if they don't accept your price. Either they'll call you back or you'll lose the deal. You'll find same or better deal elsewhere. 10. You control them, they do NOT control you. remember that. You're the one with the power. One last thing, dealership does LOSE money sometimes. They'll sell some cars on negative to meet sales goal and quotas. So yes, you can get an amazing deal!
@Newzchspy
@Newzchspy 5 жыл бұрын
eX.Gaming I agree, but at times, trading in can save substantially on taxes since you'll save that $$ off the new car purchase. Do the math before hand. This is particularly true if you're in a high tax state where taxes on new purchase can be 7% or higher. But the key is to discuss and disclose trade , if you go this route , well after you've locked in price of new car.
@pierrelarocque3214
@pierrelarocque3214 5 жыл бұрын
You should publish a KZbin video, it would be better than the one above
@band586
@band586 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, for advice. I’m thinking about going to buy a car next month!
@bluecollartrader1791
@bluecollartrader1791 5 жыл бұрын
That's true on used cars. on new cars, the dealer is paying interest to the manufacturer as if they own that vehicle on their lot. As the interest costs climb, they have to get back that money they've paid in interest to the car company by way of a higher sales price, giving them less room to make a great deal. It's a double edged sword.@MissBttrsctch
@TommyT_
@TommyT_ 5 жыл бұрын
Buddy, every deal is important whether it's the busiest day of the year or the quietest
@JohnWick-yk3eg
@JohnWick-yk3eg 2 жыл бұрын
I've been an auto mechanic for over 20 years. Many of the problems I see daily could have easily been avoided by simply following the vehicles maintenance schedule. I use a program on my computer called Automotive Wolf car care software to keep track of all the maintenance for my 3 cars, a truck and even a generator. It automatically can send you text message reminders when any type of service is due. Two of my vehicles have over 200,000 miles and have never needed any repairs. Want to save money? Follow your maintenance schedule!
@robtk3
@robtk3 3 жыл бұрын
I love how it's all wine and roses with the salesman then, waterboarding and red hot pokers in the financing office. "You really need to seriously consider getting the extended warranty." "Why?! Are you selling me a piece of shit?!" The number one tip in a dealership; never hesitate to simply get up and walk out.
@dennismusgrove3824
@dennismusgrove3824 2 жыл бұрын
I've done exactly That, and the salesman call me on my cell phone min later when I was on the freeway and try to get me to come back to the dealership.
@benda777nba
@benda777nba 2 жыл бұрын
I've only owned 2 vehicles in my driving years and have never bought them at a dealership; my Mexican dad says those are for suckers....I see now he was right all along....he didn't go to school but those street smarts win out in the end!
@erichanson3356
@erichanson3356 Ай бұрын
I'd have to agree. Over the years we've bought 2 vehicles from dealerships. In both situations the sales people were actually reasonable to deal with, i.e. willing to negotiate price as well as trade in value and they weren't overly pushy about adding one or anything either. But man it was a completely different story with the financial officers. One of them literally yelled at us because we refused to buy an extended warranty they were trying to to push on us for thousands of dollars. Thankfully I had the experience of knowing my dad once got an extended warranty from a dealership, and it literally never covered anything that broke on that car so I knew they were a waste of money and kept saying no no matter what this person said or did.
@robinkhaira1
@robinkhaira1 5 жыл бұрын
and one golden rule, if something doesn't feel right, dont be afraid to walk away. Remember, they need you more than you need them. you as a customer have the power.
@WhiteBoardFinance
@WhiteBoardFinance 5 жыл бұрын
agreed
@robinkhaira1
@robinkhaira1 5 жыл бұрын
@@iamnormal8648 as long as you know their tricks, you can beat this game. here are few tips: 1. Never tell them that you want a specific car. always make it look like you don't care what you buy as long as you have reliable car. even if you are a car enthusiast. that keeps them on the edge because they are thinking that you can change your mind. 2. Always tell them you are only here for quote because you are going to check out another couple of cars from a different manufacturer and you ll make you decision based on that. Then they know you will walk away to look at the car and once you are outta that door they have no control over the situation, so they ll bend backwards to keep you in their store. ( this is the best one because i have used it many times when i went to negotiate with my friends). 3.always arrange your own finance before you go in, but don't tell them that you already have it sorted. because otherwise they ll start to adjust to that straight away. listen to their offer and if you feel like you are ok with the vehicle price, then just tell them you have your own finance. 4. Be friendly, but keep some barrier between the salesman, because they ll try to act like they are your friends, make them work hard for your "trust" question anything if you need to. remember they need "You" to spend your money so they can get their Fat paycheck.
@robinkhaira1
@robinkhaira1 5 жыл бұрын
@@iamnormal8648 Also try to see if you can get a good 2nd hand car privately, because a new car is always going to lose money. i have been changing and upgrading my cars almost every year. its my 9th car in 11 years and i always get a 2nd hand car below market value form someone wanting to sell it quickly. it could be that they are moving away or they have other various reasons. so if you can get a car lower than the average price privately, you can potentially upgrade your car every couple of years and still sell yours on a good price since you brought is cheaper to start it. it is a bit of work and requires hunting. but with time and patience it works. just cut dealers out of equation all together
@Jasonk1979
@Jasonk1979 5 жыл бұрын
It never feels right at a car dealership.
@michaelbuffington4047
@michaelbuffington4047 5 жыл бұрын
Just be upfront and honest about what you want done. Don’t let the salesman shoot in the dark.
@jabber8217
@jabber8217 5 жыл бұрын
Been in the business for 26 years. While the 4 square is old style of selling, it still happens. And it is designed to beat the 5% of customers not educated enough to see through the crap. As soon as the salesperson or manager presents anything that looks like this, get up and leave. Go home and visit 3 dealers via internet and get your pricing that way. Beware if one guy is thousands lower than the other two guys, he is probably just trying to get you in the door. Then use an online calculator to figure payments. This is not a difficult process. I also see a bunch of comments telling people to sell their car on their own. This is generally a smart way to do it. But there are two things to watch out for. If you car is junk, just trade it in. You don't want or need strangers calling you at all hours of the night and day. Think of your safety. Too dangerous in this world now. Besides, let the dealer take the responsibility for anything that is wrong. If you sell a car that "unknowingly" has a bad trans and someone just shelled out their last $2,500 to buy it, you can bet you will be getting a call from that person. No dealership in the world is going to call you after the fact and want money from you because the used car manager missed the bad transmission. Second, if you decide to sell private party, make sure you get enough over the dealership offer to cover the loss of taxes. When you trade in (in most states), you will also get a tax credit for that amount. $10k car traded in is worth $10,700 private party if you have a tax rate of 7%. I saw someone get $30,000 for their car from me only to sell it private party for $31,000 and think they won. At 7% tax, they just lost $1,100 (tax savings on $30k is $2,100). 85% of all salespeople out there are decent guys and gals. If they are transparent with their dealings, and are willing to answer questions and back up their statements with solid math, there is no reason to not trust them. The really smart ones will be honest. I can sell one person, rip them off, and make a bunch for myself. Or I can take very good care of them, make a little, but then sell the wife, the children, the neighbor, the boss, and even their vet and make a lot more doing it the honest way. And now I have 5 more people passing along my name instead of one going on facebook and bashing me.
@ivetg.420
@ivetg.420 5 жыл бұрын
Honest sales men are rare! What a gem you are! Hahaha
@MyBodyWash
@MyBodyWash 5 жыл бұрын
Jabber 82 you should come out to Dallas and preach this. Here all car salesman are pretty much.. well.. just salesman
@jonothandoeser
@jonothandoeser 5 жыл бұрын
It's GOTTA be more than 5%
@gmb858
@gmb858 5 жыл бұрын
Good advice. I graduated in 1973 with a bachelors in Finance, spent 26 years in commercial leasing and lending, then went into subprime auto finance for one of the largest banks in the world for 12 years working with Finance Managers at Dealerships. I'd buy their sales contracts, administer the loan and collect the money, repo it if necessary. I've been retired 10 years and the market has changed because both the manufacturers and dealers have more difficulty moving cars. AlMOST EVERY CAR PHYSICALLY IS BEAT TO DEATH AND HAS NO VALUE AT 84 MONTHS (except for granddad's) It was a stretch at 72 months but the only way to get a payment the customer can afford has been to extend the term of the loan. That means the customer is paying the same rate of interest for 7 years. Auto Finance dealers will accept the trade in as the "down" unless the total of the customer's payments on the trade in car's financing are greater than the Kelly Blue Book Wholesale Value. If that occurs, the customer is "upside down" and he is severely limited in the "amount of car " he can buy. If the trade is used for down, then lenders look at 15-20% of the "if sold" price of the car to be purchased. If you go on Kelly Blue Book dot com and plug in your car's information, they will ask you questions about the condition of your car. They rate it from Excellent down to poor. You'll have a better idea of what the dealer will offer based on the Kelly number. If you have a "beater" car, good luck. When a customer drives into the dealership he may see 1000 cars on the lot. The salesman will qualify him on monthly payment. Let's say it's $400. That means the customer will have a selection of maybe 10-20 cars on the lot that the salesman will try to sell him. if the car lot has 7 used Ford Escorts and 2 used Toyota Corollas, the salesman is going to push him to the Ford Escort. Another factor that determines which car the customer sees is the length of time it has been on the lot. If its been there 60 days the sales manager is breathing down the necks of his people. If the car has been there 30 days, not so much. Based on the credit and payment history of the borrower, an auto finance company will pay from 100% to 120% of the "if sold price" to the dealer. This will cover tax, title and license for the car. The Auto Finance guy will try to sell a Guaranteed Asset Protection Contract or GAP which will pay off the car if you are hit by an uninsured motorist and/or don't have adequate coverage from your insurance company. In some instances, this is not a bad idea if you have a large sales price on a big SUV or a large payment. Some insurance won't pay sufficient amounts to pay off the loan and you're left with the remainder. The Finance Guy will also try to sell a service warranty that will cover certain expensive repair items. The older the car, the closer the attention to making a decision on it should be made. Don't buy "premium lug nuts," "competition floor mats" or "chrome muffler bearings." These are add-on aftermarket profit centers for the dealership. The finance company won't finance them. Read your contract before you sign. Ask questions if you don't understand. The Finance guy will be pissed off but he's making money on you so be ready to walk if you don't like anything. DON'T GIVE THEM THE KEYS TO YOUR TRADE IN UNTIL YOU'VE SIGNED THE NEW CONTRACT AND HAVE KEYS TO THE NEW CAR. If the dealer has possession of your car it puts them in the position to put max pressure on you to close the deal regardless of how bad it is for you. They are adept at ripping arms and legs off of customers. Your credit score will drive your interest rate. The auto finance companies send out "programs" with rate sheets and terms and conditions, advance % and other things that could determine where the auto finance manager sends your deal for pre approval. No matter what the call back is, the finance manager is trained to call the auto finance company to "rehash" the deal. Finance manager training courses spend an entire morning on the rehash call. So, those guys are loaded for bear when they call back. The auto finance manager might put your pre-approval out to 4 or 5 different lenders, depending on program fit and the lender's appetite. Sometimes if a dealer has sold too many deals to a lender that go bad and the car is repossessed, then the finance companies get skittish. Lending company reps are in and out of dealers several times a week structuring deals with them. The dealer says in placing deals, "I'll give you these 5 premium deals but you have to take these 2 dogs along with them." There is a lot of give and take that is always changing. Bottom line, be happy with the deal you buy along with the car you buy. You will have them for at least 3 years (average time between trades) and if either one of them is bad for you, it will grind on you every time you turn the ignition.
@goneflying140
@goneflying140 5 жыл бұрын
You mentioned that a dealership would never call you back on your trade and say something about the condition after the deal. I had one do just that. I traded in a Camaro that had cat claw scratches all over the hood, roof, and decklid. It looked really bad, except when it was wet. You couldn't even see them if it was raining. I had my eye on a Trans Am, and the salesman was calling me daily and bugging me to come in and do a deal. I waited until it was raining, and they gave me what I thought was fair on the trade, so I made the deal and drove away in my new (used) Trans Am. The next day when it had quit raining, that jerk actually called me and told me "hey, this car is all scratched up. You need to come back in so we can re-negotiate the deal because I am going to lose on this trade... I told him I was having buyers remorse, (really wasnt.. I loved my Trans Am...) and if I came back in, I would likely give him the Trans Am back. He said I couldn't do that because I signed the contract. So I told him to go "F" himself. It felt good to get one over on them for once, even though I am sure they still made a bunch of money even with a loss on the trade.
@samg5543
@samg5543 4 жыл бұрын
You forgot to tell everyone to never trade-in a car. Sell it yourself and make a lot more money.
@jeremybuchanan289
@jeremybuchanan289 4 жыл бұрын
Not always possible when people are upside down.
@samg5543
@samg5543 4 жыл бұрын
@@jeremybuchanan289 if you're upside down in a car, you shouldn't be buying a new one.
@jeremybuchanan289
@jeremybuchanan289 4 жыл бұрын
@@samg5543 if only people lived that way, but they don't. Hell, moat people don't have cash to put down, trade, then are even worse off.
@lievaleo5746
@lievaleo5746 4 жыл бұрын
But if you trade in, you don't get hit with sales tax.
@samg5543
@samg5543 4 жыл бұрын
@@lievaleo5746 you will pay sales tax on the car you purchase.
@pouryarezaeian2706
@pouryarezaeian2706 3 жыл бұрын
Easy ways to fix this. Always sell your own vehicle. If you can get your own financing And never look at montly payments, ALWAYS LOOK AT THE end price of the vehicle they are trying to sell you. Just today I went into a dealer and they literally refused to sell me a car when they knew they couldn’t scam me out.
@brianm.4243
@brianm.4243 Жыл бұрын
I'm running into this now. Looking for a bigger vehicle to accommodate a bigger family and I go right past the monthly payments into price, or I figure out what the monthly payments add up to and adjust it down to whatever price I wanted plus reasonable interest. They dont budge and I just walk away. Used car prices are nuts right now.
@TheEllaTB
@TheEllaTB Жыл бұрын
That's crazy! I noticed for a few years now that I have to really push to get a price for the vehicle and not a monthly payment number! So insulting and annoying
@flossbee
@flossbee 5 жыл бұрын
Nothing beats the relief and sense of empowerment when you have a well functioning vehicle with no car payment!
@ZeiGgy
@ZeiGgy 5 жыл бұрын
Thoroughly agreed!
@isaacleedrums
@isaacleedrums 5 жыл бұрын
I would say a paid for home would rival that.
@tayloranderson456
@tayloranderson456 5 жыл бұрын
I'd take good health over that any day!
@helamana
@helamana 5 жыл бұрын
Walked in in September, test drive 2017 Beamer...1 hour later drove out ... paid in full. The guy who dealt with us tried his very best to push tire maintenance, while car service for 2 years etc etc etc...altogether would have added $3 Grand to the price we bought the car...with taxes and everything, we walked out $1,400 more with taxes and registration and whatever else!!!! They were mad
@HeyItsAvi90
@HeyItsAvi90 5 жыл бұрын
I was sooooo happy i got declined buying a 2019 Honda accord for 26k because i just moved to the US and had 640 credit score with 6 months credit history. Now im driving a 2014 fully functional toyota corolla LE i bought and haggled for 6.5k from this guy with clean title and single owner.
@simonbramwell4074
@simonbramwell4074 5 жыл бұрын
Just remember these dealership guys do this several times a day, but you probably only do it once every few years. They get a lot more practice than you do. Beware.
@WhiteBoardFinance
@WhiteBoardFinance 5 жыл бұрын
true
@jasonwenzel3386
@jasonwenzel3386 5 жыл бұрын
Kinda like a Vegas casino...
@sammyfromsydney
@sammyfromsydney 5 жыл бұрын
Don't let them pressure you into signing same day. They'll be just as willing to sell you a car tomorrow and if they aren't you can go elsewhere.
@abdulrennane9876
@abdulrennane9876 5 жыл бұрын
I am nasty in math
@JoeyGFPV
@JoeyGFPV 5 жыл бұрын
Alot more practice. And beleive they are better at it than you.
@a3300000
@a3300000 5 жыл бұрын
Never walk into a dealership unless you’re willing to walk out.
@6string327
@6string327 5 жыл бұрын
there instantly on you like sharks
@MeOhMyOh2324
@MeOhMyOh2324 5 жыл бұрын
We walk out every time and rarely trade a vehicle
@a3300000
@a3300000 5 жыл бұрын
Max Power you know your shit!
@Pfsif
@Pfsif 5 жыл бұрын
Never buy unless the salesman and manager are screaming at you.
@a3300000
@a3300000 5 жыл бұрын
M Detlef , pure genius. Bet you paid sticker price.
@krunkjuice2069
@krunkjuice2069 2 жыл бұрын
As a former salesman, If you do decide to finance a car, don’t focus on the payments. They will distract you with what you want your payments to be but never drop the actual sticker price down.
@Jodyjo99
@Jodyjo99 2 жыл бұрын
So you already made all your money and trying to fuck over everybody else getting into the car business by telling people they’re all trying to scam you, ect. Maybe a small amount of salesman are pos but majority are just trying to feed their family like everybody else. Salesman also need to make money.
@romanshevy257
@romanshevy257 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jodyjo99 they need to go do something that’s actually beneficial to society then.
@Jodyjo99
@Jodyjo99 2 жыл бұрын
@@romanshevy257 lmfaoo the stupidity in that comment is comedy🤦🏽‍♂️😂 giving people something they’ve dreamed of for a good price while also helping the salesmen out isn’t beneficial for both parties? Dude you probably work at a grocery store or some shit stop acting like you’re saving the world with your job
@cpad007
@cpad007 5 жыл бұрын
Negotiate the cost of the car only. Sell a trade-in outside the dealership. Finance outside the dealership.
@y_rb4080
@y_rb4080 5 жыл бұрын
Yup never trade in.
@2010drive
@2010drive 5 жыл бұрын
​@@y_rb4080 I've traded many vehicles for more than I could have sold privately. People need financing and dealers don't verify income like credit unions so they have a much larger buyer pool than any private seller.
@y_rb4080
@y_rb4080 5 жыл бұрын
@@2010drive Totally makes sense and I agree. Im just saying you could most probably sell a vehicle at a higher price point compared to the one offered by a dealership by a trade in if you have the patience to wait it out.
@bookshelffury
@bookshelffury 5 жыл бұрын
Id feel bad selling a lemon to a private party. But trading in a lemon to a dealership no regrets fuk em
@Dosudro
@Dosudro 5 жыл бұрын
@@2001chevycamaross Solid points mate. Cannot stress enough the importance of having the value of your car nailed down and a pre-qualification in your pocket.
@tyleryoung9638
@tyleryoung9638 5 жыл бұрын
Step 1: don't mention that you are trading in a vehicle until you agree on a price of the car you are buying. Step 2: determine your trade value ahead of time and don't budge. Step 3. Get preapproved credit for the amount you want to finance at a fixed rate and tell them that after you agree on the trade and purchase. Step 4: offer to get up and walk out if they find any of this disagreeable. Chances are if its the last week of the month and they have spent several hours negotiating and test driving, you can get your price. I have walked out of dealerships after 4 hours and taken all the numbers to a different dealership and had the second dealership agree immediately to what I am offering.
@jeffruck7757
@jeffruck7757 5 жыл бұрын
Most people who "determine" the value of their car have no idea what they are doing - you think it's in "excellent" condition when it fact it isn't -
@tyleryoung9638
@tyleryoung9638 5 жыл бұрын
@@jeffruck7757 Most of the time its "fair" condition when you look at how the assessment system works. The problem is that car dealers try and create a large margin on used vehicle sales by offering such low value on trade ins.
@rasmuth63
@rasmuth63 5 жыл бұрын
as far as trade value is concerned, be intelligent enough to understand you can't trade for a retail value, that is a number you can expect if you sell the vehicle yourself and the vehicle is in top notch condition. Trade or wholesale value is a more realistic number.
@mms8393
@mms8393 5 жыл бұрын
The first question the salesperson asks is: "Do you have a trade?"
@twelveeighteenofficial7487
@twelveeighteenofficial7487 5 жыл бұрын
@@mms8393 - salespeople deflect questions all the time. Do likewise. Push past the question and talk about what car you want.
@reedrobb
@reedrobb 5 жыл бұрын
Marko, I agree with everything you say here- I spent a year at a dealership and saw this too. However, I studied Advertising in my business degree and learned this process is all about EMOTION. If you go to buy a car and you are emotionally invested, all these tricks from the dealer will work on you. My #1 rule in buying cars is to be ready to WALK no matter what they do. EMOTIONS= EASY SALE
@DedeontheGo
@DedeontheGo 5 жыл бұрын
I was definitely able to walk when my price wasn't right even with the boss coming in lol I was like well if its meant for me It will be here and I drove off
@jeremypenn1
@jeremypenn1 2 жыл бұрын
Tried to walk one time, but then my car wouldn't start in the dealer's parking lot...
@michaelmclain7049
@michaelmclain7049 Жыл бұрын
@@jeremypenn1 😂😂😂
@floridawoman25
@floridawoman25 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Every young person should watch this. I filed a lawsuit against a car dealer, he threatened me and had me followed. I posted it online, 9 other women came forward. A nightmare.
@manuelcastro6975
@manuelcastro6975 4 жыл бұрын
I remember buying my car 2 years ago, out the door price 32,290. Come signing papers, it was 35,000. I asked the dealer what happened, he said " oh the taxes and fees blah blah", and I did the math right in front of him and showed him it didn't add up and he left and returned with the correct amount.
@DiamondEdwards
@DiamondEdwards 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you didn't fall for it! Good for you but I bet they get a lot of people with that one. SMH
@Threedaysextension
@Threedaysextension 4 жыл бұрын
Same happened to me. That's why you always check what you are signing, because they get tricky with price
@Lodeenie
@Lodeenie 4 жыл бұрын
Yes I got screwed too. I've been looking over my paperwork on my current car and it has the wrong interest rate and the base price was higher than what I saw online. I had no idea they would screw me like that. Lesson learned.
@cfoster6804
@cfoster6804 4 жыл бұрын
Wow!
@dr1flush
@dr1flush 4 жыл бұрын
A car I like 26500 on sticker . Then they want 30020 after all is done and less then half on KBB on trade in . That's why Mercedes dealer make 100k plus a year. Biggest waste of money
@JackBlack-yo1vs
@JackBlack-yo1vs 5 жыл бұрын
Bought an Accord and maintain it = 200,000+ miles looks and drives like brand new and no car payment since 2008. Best decision I ever made.
@kckunkun
@kckunkun 5 жыл бұрын
What if you bought the car in 1988?
@BeaverMonkey
@BeaverMonkey 5 жыл бұрын
2005 Accord, 108k miles, no payments since 2010. I agree with you, best decision I ever made!
@andrymashka1757
@andrymashka1757 5 жыл бұрын
Bought wrecked 2012 Audi with 25k miles , fixed, took it to a dealer, got extended warranty up to 100k miles. Drove s@it out of it until warranty expired and sold it to private rental company for over $1k more I bought it for. Reason it was BLACK just like they need it. Cheers
@JackBlack-yo1vs
@JackBlack-yo1vs 5 жыл бұрын
@@kckunkun - No no no. Bought the car in 2006 brand new. Paid it off early. The Accord looks and drives like the day I bought it. Radio button is worn down but that is so minor I forget about my horrible channel surfing affliction.
@kyleallen1858
@kyleallen1858 5 жыл бұрын
@@BeaverMonkey accords and camrys and subarus are unbelievable machines.
@bahopik
@bahopik 5 жыл бұрын
Never met this guy, but he just called me an idiot
@Billy_Silva
@Billy_Silva 5 жыл бұрын
bahopik me too, and he is just right.
@flowergirlicart3949
@flowergirlicart3949 5 жыл бұрын
Haha!
@edwin0607ama
@edwin0607ama 5 жыл бұрын
and i feel like he’s right
@MrOner07
@MrOner07 5 жыл бұрын
you very funny guy
@j.albertofuentes2874
@j.albertofuentes2874 4 жыл бұрын
Jajajajaja. That was a good one.
@GratefulPrimate
@GratefulPrimate 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this, it was helpful. But I REALLY hate these stupid negotiating games we have to endure just to get a vehicle, mainly just to go back and forth to our jobs.
@---cr8nw
@---cr8nw 5 жыл бұрын
Separate your transactions. You're doing 3 things, not one. You're selling a car, borrowing money, and buying a car. If you do all three things at the same time, you give the dealership the power to leverage one aspect of the deal against another. 1. Do your prep work. Know what your car is worth. Get printouts of the Carfax and Edmonds and Kelley Blue Book values for it. Figure out which car you want to buy (including trim level). Find out the MSRP, the book value, and the actual selling price in the area. Also call a few dealerships to ask what the extended warranty costs. Decide before you ever leave your house whether or not you're getting an extended warranty. Shop for rates on a loan with several banks and credit unions. 2. Go to a bank or credit union and get pre approved for a loan under terms that you're comfortable with. 3. Go to the dealership and haggle down the price of the car to what you're comfortable with. Close the deal and fill out the paperwork. 4. After you have the keys in hand, tell the dealer: "On second thought, maybe I do need to sell my old car. I can't drive them both home. Here's the Carfax on it and the Edmonds and Kelley Blue Book Values on it. I know you need to have a margin in there, but what'll you give me for it?" Be comfortable with walking away and selling the car on your own if they lowball you too much. It's also helpful to mess with them to show them that you're on equal ground. "That's a really nice brochure you've had printed. I bet a lot of people think those extended warranty prices are fixed because they're printed in a brochure. I'll give you $750 for the extended warranty." Whether you end up buying the warranty or not, it shows that you're not fooled by simple mind games.
@indo3052
@indo3052 5 жыл бұрын
What do u mean by extended warrantys not being fixed?
@---cr8nw
@---cr8nw 5 жыл бұрын
@@indo3052, when you buy a car at the dealership, they take you back to the "finance office" to shoe you brochures of what the extended warranties are and what they cover. They often have the prices printed in them. Sometimes, the look up the prices based on the year and model of the car. None of that matters. The price of the warranty is more flexible than they want you to believe. Sure, there's a bottom limit that they can't sell a warranty below without losing money. But that bottom limit is much lower than the brochure price.
@indo3052
@indo3052 5 жыл бұрын
- - ahh. Thx...good thing u can usually get a prorated refund on them after the fact. I just did on one vehicle
@deliber8cre8tor
@deliber8cre8tor 5 жыл бұрын
Hey 3 weeks ago !! Thank you so much for taking the time to post this incredibly valuable information.. Very kind of you.... :)
@RickActual
@RickActual 5 жыл бұрын
- - I agree with your recommendations with one alteration. If you wait until you have the keys in your hand you are missing out on possible sales tax reduction from a trade-in. So, as you said, do you homework on the new vehicle, know what you can get from others for your old vehicle, have a great financing option already figured out before you walk in the dealership, negotiate the price of the new car/truck without any other distractions (I prefer to do over the phone with the dealership’s Internet salesperson), *then* talk trade-in. If you wait until you have the keys in your hand you are missing out on possible sales tax reduction from a trade-in. Hypothetical example: if your trade-in is a 4 year old platinum F-150 FX4 and worth $35K a trade-in might reduce the sales tax by $2,500. Other offers would need to be that much better than what the dealership is offering.
@HatedJared
@HatedJared 5 жыл бұрын
I worked as a banker for 9 months and we had a similar sales approach to our loans and credit cards. I hated it so much. Guess I didnt have the fortitude to knowingly rip old or broke people off. I quit.
@stoneyj1a1
@stoneyj1a1 5 жыл бұрын
gosh, my banker is trying to sell us a line of credit and company credit card now. they're relentless.
@romeg9893
@romeg9893 5 жыл бұрын
They're all brokers aka sales agents and the only lender is you because it's your signature on the promissory note, the Banksters never sign to be liable for anything. The dealer is going to transfer aka sell/assign your documents and promissory note aka bond over to the Banksters who are really brokerage insurance/assurance companies calling themselves investors. It's all fraud!!!
@TheChrismaster619
@TheChrismaster619 5 жыл бұрын
Good ,your integrity as a person is more important than any money on the world
@roseadams563
@roseadams563 5 жыл бұрын
@@romeg9893 gtfkdfggdgmfshi
@rjayp5843
@rjayp5843 5 жыл бұрын
You earn my respect man!
@davidpetrelle3294
@davidpetrelle3294 4 жыл бұрын
Marco, Wanted to leave a comment to thank you for this video! My wife and I were first time car buyers and we used the advice from this video to get a deal that we were very happy with. We really didn’t know exactly what we were getting into, being first time car buyers, but after watching your videos we were not surprised by any of the tactics the sales people gave us. We ended up walking out of the dealership because they were not at the number we wanted and as soon as we got down the road they gave us a call offering the OTD price we wanted. So I just wanted to leave a comment saying thank you for the video, it really helped!!
@WhiteBoardFinance
@WhiteBoardFinance 4 жыл бұрын
My pleasure please share 🙏
@brandenjohnson2980
@brandenjohnson2980 2 жыл бұрын
@@WhiteBoardFinance So is It a good idea to drop a 40% down payment?
@petepyeatt6909
@petepyeatt6909 3 жыл бұрын
This dude is dropping all the secrets in the car selling trade.
@myherpesitch7763
@myherpesitch7763 Жыл бұрын
Good.
@joejoemenme
@joejoemenme 5 жыл бұрын
I use to work at a dealership for 11 years. He is telling you the truth
@WhiteBoardFinance
@WhiteBoardFinance 5 жыл бұрын
100%
@bryson3401
@bryson3401 5 жыл бұрын
Just pay cash 😂
@Andrewkc1969
@Andrewkc1969 5 жыл бұрын
The truth? About what, how dealerships make money? What's his next video about, how the grocery store "rips" you off by making money? He didn't explain how the dealership rips you off, he only explained how they make their money. I can't believe people expect a business to sell them something and NOT make a profit.
@Sig721Tau
@Sig721Tau 5 жыл бұрын
@@WhiteBoardFinance Change your channel's name to just 'Whiteboard Finance' and drop your birth name at the front of it.
@algallego
@algallego 5 жыл бұрын
@@Andrewkc1969 It's the difference between buying a $200 dollar mattress for $400 instead of $999. It's not that people don't expect others to make a living from profit, but noone likes being taken to the cleaners for unethical price tags! It's the whole matter of intrinsic value vs. perceived value. Actual value vs perceived value In layman's terms, the real (or actual) value is what the product is actually worth, without any outside expectations from the consumer or seller. Perceived (or intangible) value is what consumers think the product is actually worth. Marketers create intangible value to make up (greedily profit) for real value.
@WA-ge3vz
@WA-ge3vz 4 жыл бұрын
I just payed off my Honda Accord that only has 50k miles on it. Looking forward to many years with no car payments.
@victorsanchez9927
@victorsanchez9927 4 жыл бұрын
u got 450k miles left before engine needs oil change and 200k left on tranny lol
@u13erfitz
@u13erfitz 4 жыл бұрын
Victor Sanchez If it’s a manual make that 800k
@JesusIsLord7773
@JesusIsLord7773 4 жыл бұрын
@@u13erfitz never seen a honda with 800k yet.... are you sure thats not toyota?
@dhatchbernier
@dhatchbernier 4 жыл бұрын
Too bad it’s such a boring car.
@cfoster6804
@cfoster6804 4 жыл бұрын
I did that with my Saturn Ion many years ago. It's a 2006. Paid it off in 4 years and still driving it today. Has 165k miles now. The day I paid it off was a great feeling!
@drstevenklayman
@drstevenklayman 5 жыл бұрын
Great job. I just went into a dealership last week. He did exactly what you said. He really lowballed my trade-in and he tried to get me to sign a worthless piece of paper. I told him I’m not signing anything. He said “but I need to have something I can take back to the manager. “I told him I’m not signing anything . now take it back to your manager. “I ended up walking out. Of course within a week he called us back and said “what do I need to do to earn your business?. “There’s nothing this guy can do to earn my business
@clintjoungaye3139
@clintjoungaye3139 5 жыл бұрын
Steven this video advice is talk trade in after you negotiate that way a big minus will happen listen to almost at the end of video.
@artdogg50
@artdogg50 5 жыл бұрын
These same guys keep emailing me too months after I walked out. 🤣
@dmayer50
@dmayer50 2 жыл бұрын
Just told a dealer that our bank was going to finance with us and their faces said it all. They went so far as to say that they’d have to keep the vehicle for 10 days for the check to clear and they still have the option to sell it during that time. Told this to our bank and they never heard such a thing
@googiegress
@googiegress Жыл бұрын
I had to read that second sentence twice because I couldn't understand it. That's wild. If I buy the car and sign on the dotted line, it's a sealed deal and neither of us can get out of it.
@insidmal
@insidmal 5 жыл бұрын
It always amazed me how people will argue over $1,000 on the listed price of a car but just accept whatever interest rate is given to them.
@KidGloves2112
@KidGloves2112 5 жыл бұрын
If you have the cash to buy the car today, sometimes it worth getting a loan at the dealership with a higher interest rate but with added incentives to bring the price of the car down and just pay the loan off the following month.
@shgsr71
@shgsr71 5 жыл бұрын
I’ve worked in dealerships for over 20 years. The finance department is the absolute bottom of the barrel. This video is accurate
@vambo13257
@vambo13257 5 жыл бұрын
then you are a turd, probably never made it to management!
@vambo13257
@vambo13257 5 жыл бұрын
@Terry Melvin sure because if you finance directly from a bank or credit union they will not repo you???
@firstnamefirst3200
@firstnamefirst3200 5 жыл бұрын
Credit unions pay a "flat" to a store for selli g them a deal, zero rate markup allowed, warranties come with a markup of course. Does Best Buy sell warranties out of the goodness of their heart? For those who end up needing them theyre well worth it. The car business is not always this guys take. I will show you carfax and autocheck. I will show you an independent aim report to condition of vehicle. I will show you all available service history including our recon bill, and the checklist for inspection, brakes, tires etc. My cars are worth more than the cheap outliers because i don't have to hide anything. How is that ripping you off?
@jrsteffes4
@jrsteffes4 5 жыл бұрын
This guy is just another joke. Failed car guy broke off his @$$. I’ve been in the car industry for 20 years.... seeing this is another financial advisor with bad credit spinning BS. Most dealerships/manufacturers have 0% financing so banks can’t do better. Catch is for all u people saying “the big bad car guys” pay ur bills so u can qualify! Now the 20 year guy saying finance is the bottom of the barrel..... get out of the industry please. Your the reason we have a bad name. Hang up your gold nugget ring and white shoes. Lot lizards are dead just like the “for square” go be a Walmart greater where you belong. As for this youtuber your about 5 years behind! Go back to school. No one uses for squares anymore.
@jrsteffes4
@jrsteffes4 5 жыл бұрын
D .G please get out of the car industry! The industry doesn’t need deadbeat lot lizards dragging us down!
@Diosa468
@Diosa468 3 жыл бұрын
"My manager is in a good mood, he's a great guy" HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA YES!!! THEY DO SAY THAT!!! thanks for the honesty!
@MrMbc2013
@MrMbc2013 3 жыл бұрын
When they say my managers in a good mood, we as the customer should interrupt and say does that mean I’ll be getting the car for free.
@Jessicatorres_768
@Jessicatorres_768 Жыл бұрын
Managing money is different from accumulating wealth, and the lack of investment education in schools may explain why people struggle to maintain their financial gains. The examples you provided are relevant, and I personally benefited from the market crisis, as I embrace challenging times while others tend to avoid them. Well, at least my advisor does too, jokingly.
@alicebenard5713
@alicebenard5713 Жыл бұрын
Investors should exercise caution with their exposure and exercise caution when considering new investments, particularly during periods of inflation. It is advisable to seek guidance from a professional or trusted advisor in order to navigate this recession and achieve potential high yields.
@JamesAnderson-ox2ep
@JamesAnderson-ox2ep Жыл бұрын
I subscribed for a few trading courses but it didn't help much, been getting suggestions to use a proper financial advisor, how did you go about touching base with your adviser
@Jessicatorres_768
@Jessicatorres_768 Жыл бұрын
Through closely monitoring the performance of my portfolio, I have witnessed a remarkable growth of $485k in just the past two quarters. This experience has shed light on why experienced traders are able to generate substantial returns even in lesser-known markets. It is safe to say that this bold decision has been one of the most impactful choices I have made recently.
@KatherineAnderson-lm8bw
@KatherineAnderson-lm8bw Жыл бұрын
Wow, that’s stirring! Do you mind connecting me to your advisor please. I desperately need one to diversified my portfolio.
@SophiaBint-wj8wn
@SophiaBint-wj8wn Жыл бұрын
I’ve actually been looking into advisors lately, the news I’ve been seeing in the market hasn’t been so encouraging. who’s the person guiding you?
@luke6350
@luke6350 4 жыл бұрын
Tim Tebow sure is knowledgeable about cars
@TheHoriginal
@TheHoriginal 4 жыл бұрын
HILARIOUS!!
@nsant
@nsant 3 жыл бұрын
Pat Maroon
@furmanparton6740
@furmanparton6740 3 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@shamirsarraff8952
@shamirsarraff8952 3 жыл бұрын
I KNEW I HAVE SEEN THIS GUY BEFORE! HAHAHAHA
@handleyobusiness
@handleyobusiness 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, especially Jaguars. 😅
@saxopio6280
@saxopio6280 5 жыл бұрын
In 2015 for the first time I went directly through my credit union to purchased a used car. Called them up, gave them the car details, and within 10 minutes I was approved with the lowest interest rate I'd ever had on a car note. I went to pick up the check the next business day. Handed it to the dealership finance manager and only had to wait around to fill out paperwork for tags/title and get my car detailed. The most hassle-free and worry-free car-buying experience I ever had, and this was my 8th car.
@thattannerguy856
@thattannerguy856 5 жыл бұрын
I recently bought a new car. They went straight for monthly payment talk. I said I don’t care what the payment is, I’m not worried about that. Let’s talk about the price of the car first, then I’ll worry about my payment. Take control of the convo!
@zeeromus9574
@zeeromus9574 5 жыл бұрын
The price of the car is directly related to your monthly payment. If you want to finance a car that cost roughly 25k, after TTL and a good apr, your payments can only be so high or low. People want to buy a 50k vehicle with no money down and 300 a month. It is insane.
@zeeromus9574
@zeeromus9574 5 жыл бұрын
@Terry Melvin If you go into the dealership expecting to get every single incentive offered then that is on you. Buying a car is a two way negotiation. At the end of the day, the dealership wants to sell you a car, profit is profit, no matter how small the margin. If they have to bend to make only 500$, they know they can make it up on a trade with someone else. Just have to know how to play the game and what to leverage.
@taz288828
@taz288828 5 жыл бұрын
@Terry Melvin I dont think you have a clue what your saying. Do you do ANY research before you go to buy? If you did then you wouldnt be bending over at all. Most dealerships these days dont bother with additional mark up on cars because of the internet. They arent stupid...they know people have all they need at their fingertips.
@markzachenberg2797
@markzachenberg2797 2 жыл бұрын
Traded in a hard driven, cracked windshield, missing trim stained carpet, bald tires, missed services basically very poorly maintained car and the dealer gave me a remarkable trade-in deal on the same vehicle but a newer model. The new vehicle was a one-price with a 5-day lowest price guarantee. They put numbers down on paper, I asked for a specific APR, they worked in a number within 0.5% of my request, then off to financing. I said no in advance to everything except for gap insurance. Bought the car for a smaller down and monthly payment than my calculations before visiting the dealership. I'm still in denial that I might have gotten an outstanding deal, lots of credit to this video for helping me prepare.
@robertosmith1
@robertosmith1 5 жыл бұрын
Dealer told me they'd give $2K for my 14 year old Tacoma on a trade in . I advertised it on Craigslist instead and got $9K. Yeah I can see why used cars are more profitable for them.
@bakgammon
@bakgammon 5 жыл бұрын
They bother you a few months after you buy one
@Rimzley
@Rimzley 5 жыл бұрын
thats because that car would not be something sold on a lot and go to auction where theres the risk of not even getting 2k for it. when you have older trades its always better to sell on your own cause youll get more for it.
@markm0000
@markm0000 5 жыл бұрын
I got $2k for my truck with a very small leak in the head gasket. They can make all the profit they want I got a deal.
@madjwills9045
@madjwills9045 5 жыл бұрын
Roberto Smith wow good for you Roberto!
@jhooton75
@jhooton75 5 жыл бұрын
I traded in a car once and they started out wanting to give me 2,500 for my trade. I get them up to $5,000. They had the car on their used car lot a week later asking $9,995.
@Intentionally-4u
@Intentionally-4u 4 жыл бұрын
You just described every car buying experience I ever had. "My manager is in a good mood today." 😂
@livinginparadise74
@livinginparadise74 5 жыл бұрын
As a Finance Manager for over 10 years. This is entirely accurate. The trade is quite accurate. The trade is alot of time being pinched. Best way of explaining this is your trade vs actual cash value. Alot of time the ACV is higher than what's shown. That's used in what's known as front end profit. The other part of front end profit is Price minus Invoice. Dont believe in invoice is what we payed for it. Dealership have what's called holdback. That's profit built into the invoice. Within the 4 square they also built in what's called reserve. Easiest way to explain that is the bank says your a certain tier. A, B, C, or D. So at A tier they are allowed 3 points. So your banks buy rate is say 4.9 but they get you to sign at 6.9. The profit is called reserve. Hope this helps as well.
@romeoj30
@romeoj30 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the info! All of this 4 square stuff is nonsense though. I know why it's done, but on the buyer side, the best thing they can do is to come in already knowing more about the car they want than the actual dealership and running the negotiation from their side of the table. No need to be rude or anything, basically just come in prepared. When you guys see someone on the lot wondering around like a lost puppy, that's when you guys smell MONEY..lol
@materialclassified
@materialclassified 5 жыл бұрын
@@romeoj30 ..Doing your own homework is essential.
@kennethm.380
@kennethm.380 5 жыл бұрын
If a salesman pulled that 4 square on me I'd laugh in his face. Just talk price of the car dude.
@remiem-iw7uk
@remiem-iw7uk 5 жыл бұрын
Hi.. What exactly is ACV? I'm guessing the V means Value?
@materialclassified
@materialclassified 5 жыл бұрын
@@remiem-iw7uk ..lol..read the comment, Sherlock!
@cdsilvermoon9140
@cdsilvermoon9140 2 жыл бұрын
I love how he called me an idiot and I smiled.
@mauriceclark290
@mauriceclark290 5 жыл бұрын
9.7K dislikes are from dealership agents or people that just bought new cars Thx for the likes
@eyeofhoruswadjet4236
@eyeofhoruswadjet4236 5 жыл бұрын
Or people who got "took"
@aboadeko805
@aboadeko805 5 жыл бұрын
Yes bcus this guy is piece of shit bcus he also was doing it before!!! His such an idiot for this video..
@IndianaJoe0321
@IndianaJoe0321 5 жыл бұрын
Tell us how you really feel, @@aboadeko805
@aeksinsang932
@aeksinsang932 5 жыл бұрын
Maurice Clark true that
@aeksinsang932
@aeksinsang932 5 жыл бұрын
Abo Adeko he’s not black, so he doesn’t steal cars like you.
@depmodealex
@depmodealex 5 жыл бұрын
Never trade in a car. Sell it yourself. A dealership tried to give me $1,200 for a car I had as a trade-in, I declined and sold it myself for $4,300.
@Craig805
@Craig805 5 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. Get a quote from Carmax and use that as a base. Sell it yourself for more.
@NathouExcel
@NathouExcel 5 жыл бұрын
You are absolutely right. People worry about that...and I did myself. But it's not that difficult. Sold my car myself. Was the first time doing it and it was realy easy. The dealership was giving me 4 800$ on a trade...sold the car myself for 9 000$!!!
@depmodealex
@depmodealex 5 жыл бұрын
Terry Melvin wow
@brade6765
@brade6765 5 жыл бұрын
@@Craig805 better than CARMAX, just get on auto trader or a similar site and see what similar cars to yours are priced at.
@reecetbobby5347
@reecetbobby5347 5 жыл бұрын
Good job genius. It’s called wholesale vs retail. The dealer needs to sell your car at a profit. Dealers are good at what they do. No one is stupid enough to pay you retail value for your car and then turn around and sell it at no profit.
@dmitrysmolyanitsky1166
@dmitrysmolyanitsky1166 5 жыл бұрын
Never negotiate the payments. Always negotiate the price of the car. If the payments come out to be too high then you probably cannot afford it. Sell you old car yourself. I learned it the hard way.
@alexknight1687
@alexknight1687 5 жыл бұрын
I disagree completely. You got to DEMAND they years of the loan. If you want $300 a month for 4 year and they say $300 a month on 60 months. You just say well 4 years or you get no car sale period. You tell them they HAVE to increase the trade in value(if you got one) or lower the price of the car. They say they can't you say well I'm just gonna take my money to another dealership. This is only possible if you have it pre planed on how much you want to pay for the car. If you want ot pay $14,400 for it and they got a sticker price of $15,500. That's how you do it.
@billfitzmaurice3837
@billfitzmaurice3837 5 жыл бұрын
Correct. Dealers try to sell you with the payment amount, not the actual full cost.
@Darion350
@Darion350 5 жыл бұрын
@@alexknight1687 You sound like an entitled prick, if I'm honest. You don't need to demand anything. There's no reason you can't have a reasonable discussion with the salesperson and manager to get the deal you want. In fact they often give better deals to people with a good attitude instead of self-righteous assholes who think they're going to get one over on the dealership.
@laynecombs6500
@laynecombs6500 5 жыл бұрын
@@Darion350 taking up for the dealerships? Lol. So you're tryin to say they go by attitude and not numbers. Lol.
@Darion350
@Darion350 5 жыл бұрын
@@laynecombs6500 I didn't say that. I worked for Mercedes Benz for many years (2 years as sales after I was injured as a tech) and I can tell you that we worked to sell cars to people who were genuinely nice over people who were assholes during the negotiation process. I'm not saying we weren't trying to make money (what business doesnt?) but when push came to shove we tried to make the deal work for people who treated us nicely over people who were assholes. All I'm saying is that going in with a plan is smart but you don't accomplish anything by being a jerk.
@GanNiPiYan
@GanNiPiYan 2 жыл бұрын
I was a car salesman before I had my own Bubble Tea business, I have to say this video is the most accurate realization of what I did everyday as a salesman. I can see how my customers' brains struggle and overcome the emotions when they buy cars. I will only be buying cars with cash from now on.
@nineseven5252
@nineseven5252 5 жыл бұрын
Keep negotiating until you get the car for free plus the candy bowl they have on their desks
@theroddimus
@theroddimus 5 жыл бұрын
I dare you to go into business and sell everything for free and see how long you are in business. Good luck!!
@val13c59
@val13c59 5 жыл бұрын
Magic Banana Gamer the candy comes with the price of a toothache.
@hippiechick3210
@hippiechick3210 5 жыл бұрын
Lmfao 😂🤣😭 that would be nice... haha
@RealEstateClub-
@RealEstateClub- 5 жыл бұрын
@@theroddimus Ninesven is just kidding. You simply walk out if you don't get the deal you want. No biggie
@ShakespeareCafe
@ShakespeareCafe 5 жыл бұрын
H.I.L.L.A.R.I.O.U.S.!
@midnightsynergy7846
@midnightsynergy7846 5 жыл бұрын
I live in the far north. The dealers automatically add paint sealant (minimum wage employee that waxes your car) for $350, scotchguard ($7.50) for $300, rustproofing (they do nothing; the galvanized body last longer than guarantee) for $1500 and free lifetime oil changes. The $2150 added to the sticker price is how they lower the price (even though they have maybe $15 into it), plus the "fake" repairs they find to be done with oil changes adds thousands. I know.....I used to work in one. Their favorite things to "add" during oil changes are transmission lines ($600-700$) and water pumps ($700-$1000). Almost every car that comes through ends up "needing" these within the first 3 years and they always find them during the "free" oil changes.
@mrbeekers6747
@mrbeekers6747 5 жыл бұрын
Midnight Synergzs
@mrbeekers6747
@mrbeekers6747 5 жыл бұрын
Midnight Synergy tygghgttyccgcvcc
@viviandarkbloom100
@viviandarkbloom100 5 жыл бұрын
These guys......these guys......
@BreezyGamer92
@BreezyGamer92 4 жыл бұрын
My experience at dealerships being scammed they have convinced me it is less expensive to just repair older vehicles than give a dealership a third of my monthly income.
@charlesbryant5917
@charlesbryant5917 5 ай бұрын
If you have a good private mechanic, you can trust it is
@jg7286
@jg7286 3 жыл бұрын
There should be a one semester course in high school 1 hour per school day about basics like this. Thanks for sharing the truth
@justinkanicki2761
@justinkanicki2761 3 жыл бұрын
Ummm..we have the internet so....
@republicunited2183
@republicunited2183 8 ай бұрын
Schools are too busy pushing propaganda!
@Balakay-gh9lk
@Balakay-gh9lk 5 жыл бұрын
I’ve sold cars at 5 different dealers and all played these games causing me to fail because of my honesty and transparency. I left the business but was blessed with finding a single spot, family owned dealership that presents all information upfront, no 4 square B.S and full transparency. It is the ideal place to work with, because of our honest ways unfortunately customers still follow the low low prices most dealers (that play these games) advertise to drag you in. But i can sleep at night with where I work. But yes, you see a 4 square worksheet presented to you, get ready to play their games!
@leespeyrer8424
@leespeyrer8424 5 жыл бұрын
thats honest and with morals and values. You were raised well.
@Balakay-gh9lk
@Balakay-gh9lk 5 жыл бұрын
Lee Speyrer thanks unfortunately I wasn’t raised well really. Had to figure a lot out on my own. Now I walk with the Lord.
@Balakay-gh9lk
@Balakay-gh9lk 5 жыл бұрын
C Conner thanks 🙏 hard part is when customers leave and fall trap to other dealerships misleading online prices. I just hope that I can make a living doing this job. I do enjoy it but it’s rough.
@HighSpeedNoDrag
@HighSpeedNoDrag 5 жыл бұрын
I "purchased" a 1995, Accord EX (used) back in the day. I was abused deliberately regarding their Financing which was outrageous. I advised the Sales/Finance Dept. that would I acquire a loan through my bank which was significantly lower than the Nazi Dealership P.O.S.(s). This aforementioned scenario was disturbing and insulting. Never will I purchase any vehicle from a Dealership again.
@treyquest60s
@treyquest60s 5 жыл бұрын
I have been in the car business for 12 years and did leave a dealership that I couldn't work for because of their practices. Now I have found a home at an honest dealership and have been there for 7 years. It's unfortunate what shady dealerships have done to the car industry because I do love what I do and helping people. The problem I run into now is the stereotypes associated with our profession and the general public's perception that if we make any money selling them a car then they didn't get a good deal. More and more people come in wanting to know what our bottom dollar price is and seem to get offended when we may not be able to discount our vehicles thousands of dollars. I guess I could be more understanding if we could walk into furniture stores, clothing stores, grocery stores, etc. and pay their invoice pricing. I have a family to take care of and pay taxes like the next person, so I think it's perfectly ok for us to make a money selling cars.
@BlackJambaPlaysDota
@BlackJambaPlaysDota 4 жыл бұрын
Well this man just insulted me several times in this video. I think I'm going to give him a like.
@WhiteBoardFinance
@WhiteBoardFinance 4 жыл бұрын
I have your best interest in mind. Tough love
@melindago6576
@melindago6576 4 жыл бұрын
Lol 😂
@TeslaBoy123
@TeslaBoy123 4 жыл бұрын
Lol I smell u a car sales man 🤣🤣🤣
@nickycox9296
@nickycox9296 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a salesman and can tell you this buying a car is no different than going to Wal mart and buying food or clothes. They just like any store are open to make money. The car world is not what it was 20 years ago before internet.
@johnnygeejr500
@johnnygeejr500 3 жыл бұрын
@@nickycox9296 .........nick want to buy a bridge ? your pants on fire !
@brianrakestraw7163
@brianrakestraw7163 4 жыл бұрын
I told this guy who was selling me the payment, and not the price. He was very Adamant. I told him that I’m not buying a payment. and that’s all they would discuss. So, i went and got my own financing from my bank, and boy did that make them mad! I bought that Jeep well below it’s value! Know the basics!!!
@EarlyBirdCraft
@EarlyBirdCraft 4 жыл бұрын
@Brian Rakestraw, Same! They DO get so mad! I didn’t realize that until today I bought a Chevy Malibu. Got pre-approved by a bank and all I needed from the dealer was a purchase order. F&I manager guy tried to act super important but couldn’t. Because I had done his job😂😂😂 he treated me like a piece of shit but I didn’t care. I didn’t try to find friends. I found a good car. Lol
@dpar44
@dpar44 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, and accurate for "old school" dealers that still use a 4-square. I worked at a Chevy dealer that used them, but at Toyota and at Cadillac we just printed a DMS-generated deal sheet with all numbers, and a section for payment selection which you'd get the buyer to focus on and "select" which payment they wanted. You would then know if it was a "lay down" or someone that wanted to negotiate. In this seller's market though, there is little to no negotiation - the "deal" is if the unit you want is even in stock. My buddy at Land Rover tells people that all the time - merely having it is your deal because many desirable models are selling way above sticker this year, and allocation is razor thin to replenish what they sell.
@JoeTakagi00
@JoeTakagi00 2 жыл бұрын
Currently looking at new cars. Are you saying we should just accept their numbers because of the market?
@justinsnook1932
@justinsnook1932 2 жыл бұрын
I can agree with this. I am being pressured to do a non-refundable $500 deposit on the 2022 Hyundai Accents because 2/3 in-transit have already sold before even hitting the floor. I'm taking my time though, not gonna have a deposit hook me in my jaw.
@TheKwakBrothers
@TheKwakBrothers 5 жыл бұрын
The best actors aren't in Hollywood... They work in Car Dealerships! Great insight Marko! Thanks for the video!
@WhiteBoardFinance
@WhiteBoardFinance 5 жыл бұрын
Lol thanks for watching :)
@fadyzied2836
@fadyzied2836 5 жыл бұрын
@The fastest milkman in the West Well as much as I hate it. Everyone does and should have a fair trial because sometimes those "rapists" are actually innocent and just women lying and even happens with some alleged murderers too.
@bejakabyle
@bejakabyle 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for what ? It’s not true what he was saying
@JiZz2Xtreme
@JiZz2Xtreme 5 жыл бұрын
best actors are those around you calling themselves 'friends'
@andanteparker2782
@andanteparker2782 5 жыл бұрын
You should make a video giving an example of how you should negotiate with the finance manager. Like a full walkthrough of buying a new/used car.
@wiggy8912
@wiggy8912 5 жыл бұрын
You don’t. Get your own financing, then present that information once you’ve negotiated the price, NOT the monthly payments.
@rhinogear
@rhinogear 4 жыл бұрын
If you're negotiating with the finance manager, you've already done it all wrong. See my post above.
@mikemarti2073
@mikemarti2073 5 жыл бұрын
This needs to go viral !!! I’m 60 yrs old now, and i was laughing at this video because it reminded me of my younger self many years ago getting ripped off on car deals.
@s3ntin3l60
@s3ntin3l60 5 жыл бұрын
This is now me. Getting ripped off.
@twitchydom8689
@twitchydom8689 3 жыл бұрын
This is wild, because the manager at a Honda dealer in Vancouver, just explained this to me; he said how other dealers will bs you like this. Then he said “who knew that being honest and transparent was a better sales tactic “. This dude literally put everything right in the table and I was impressed
@newtonmenlo
@newtonmenlo 5 жыл бұрын
Worked at a dealership for about 10 months. I paid attention to the training and really applied myself. I actually led the dealership in sales 2 out of the 10 months I worked there. I was honest with my customers and tried to deal fairly with everyone I came in contact with. I came to the realization that I was working for a bunch of crooks. From the owner and managers to the finance guys and the service department. I took my abilities elsewhere and will never buy a car from a dealership again.
@TheNegrodamus89
@TheNegrodamus89 5 жыл бұрын
Where else would you consider shopping for cars
@JackKincaid..
@JackKincaid.. 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheNegrodamus89 Online from a private individual. You can find the right car at the right price. You have so many to choose from.
@CaptainDawg02
@CaptainDawg02 5 жыл бұрын
I had almost the same experience as well...didn't wait around for 10 months though, just 4. Learned a TON on what not to do in sales. Now I sell IT solutions to hospitals that help save lives.
@thinair8132
@thinair8132 5 жыл бұрын
Dennis Smock you have left the herd..Congrats.
@newtonmenlo
@newtonmenlo 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheNegrodamus89 Like other commenters, I buy exclusively from on-line sources and private sales.
@dushyantparkhi
@dushyantparkhi 5 жыл бұрын
Reflective white board, sqeeky old sketch pens, heiroglyphic handwriting , what saves the day ? GREAT HONEST CONTENT 👍
@WhiteBoardFinance
@WhiteBoardFinance 5 жыл бұрын
LOL! Thanks
@tahir9591
@tahir9591 5 жыл бұрын
Dealership valued my used car for 900. Sold it for 4000 privately.
@huskyvacs
@huskyvacs 5 жыл бұрын
Of course they would. If they gave everyone market value for their car, they would be out of business pretty quickly.
@recklesswhisper
@recklesswhisper 5 жыл бұрын
Yep! There ya' go! ^..^~~
@PainBlame
@PainBlame 5 жыл бұрын
So you ripped someone else off
@tahir9591
@tahir9591 5 жыл бұрын
@@PainBlame sold it for like 600 below autotrader suggested price. If anything, helped the purchaser out.
@sidewinder4718
@sidewinder4718 5 жыл бұрын
Tahir S and they are probably still looking for you👤
@kingmennaa
@kingmennaa 3 жыл бұрын
As someone who works at a dealership, yes all of this used to be true. Some things are still true, but a lot of dealerships have switched to non commissioned sales. This means they no longer care about profit rather than units put out. The most profit I’ve seen now on a deal (I’m in finance) was max 2000 on new cars. Also our finance department does not allow us to mark up our coverages like crazy. Most of what he’s saying is true but does not apply to every dealership. Do your research on who you plan to buy from then go from there.
@joonlee30
@joonlee30 2 жыл бұрын
I respectfully disagree. Recently between my family members and friends, 4 cars were purchased in the last 2 yrs. All 4 times, the dealers talked our ears off for hours on trying to get us to buy additional warranties and products. For example, they offered my friend a $3000 dollar car care package. My friend said no for 45 minutes and they eventually lowered price of that deal to 700$. Car dealers are scums who prey on the weak minded people. Car dealers are one of those professions that should be eliminated
@angeloalarcon2823
@angeloalarcon2823 2 жыл бұрын
"Buyer Beware" still stands
@Ab0x
@Ab0x 2 жыл бұрын
@@joonlee30 It's a "business" that only exists because of lobbying. Seeing all these former car salesman in here is funny, you had a million other jobs to fill and you chose the least respectable one, if there's a hell, hope ya rot is what I say to them.
@joonlee30
@joonlee30 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ab0x i whole heartedly agree. My friend recently bought a car and I heard a new trickery that these car salesman are offering! They offer helium to fill the tires up for 300$! They are scums!
@coffeebeardtv
@coffeebeardtv 4 жыл бұрын
When car dealerships can’t screw over the customer, they screw over the sales rep.
@Mastercorey001
@Mastercorey001 4 жыл бұрын
Could not have been said better.
@King_Marzz
@King_Marzz 4 жыл бұрын
True. They meaning sales manager
@budweiserbundy1525
@budweiserbundy1525 4 жыл бұрын
Freditasium YES FUCKING SIR. FUCK WORKING IN THE CAR TRADE.
@antoniokeck
@antoniokeck 4 жыл бұрын
True....but not the customers problem...
@williambrown3388
@williambrown3388 4 жыл бұрын
They signed up for the whole tour. No tears for them. They take the commissions without any qualms they can take the screwing equally.
@joeycornejo3612
@joeycornejo3612 5 жыл бұрын
Mark that was one od the best video info I have seen about selling cars. I used to be in the car business but I got sick entirely watching these people ripping off poor people cause they were just VAMPIRES . Once I had a customer who I really was trying to help and she promised me to vome back in 6 months( Young mother with 2 children) and she couldn't pay more than $250 a month back in 2011 and I was just getting a flat commission so My sales manager bumped this lady from 250 to 325 on the same terms just because she trusted me. I told my manager I wasn't going to do it so he told me $325 or your fired.I told my manager Go F.. yourself I am out of here and took the lady across the street to a Honda Dealer and she got her car for$225 for 60 months. I am Catholic and I have a Mother,wife and daughters .You understand why I rather lost my job than ripping off that lady
@josephfriedling9190
@josephfriedling9190 5 жыл бұрын
Very nice! Thanks for being one of the only honest people in the auto business.
@briandeleon3379
@briandeleon3379 5 жыл бұрын
you must have not cared for YOUR family to support them.....
@briandeleon3379
@briandeleon3379 5 жыл бұрын
@Kevin Counihan there are no victims just volunteers. No one pushed the lady to buy the car. Again person must have not cared for his family to support them
@TheDonYG
@TheDonYG 5 жыл бұрын
GOD BLESS YOU TO THE FUCKING END
@aleks0001
@aleks0001 5 жыл бұрын
@@briandeleon3379 This must be what you tell yourself to help you sleep at night when you rip of people you piece crap.
@georgioe8553
@georgioe8553 5 жыл бұрын
Why can’t we just buy a car at the factory where they’re made?
@WhiteBoardFinance
@WhiteBoardFinance 5 жыл бұрын
lobbyists
@zayyoungfaced5034
@zayyoungfaced5034 5 жыл бұрын
Its all about money money money
@PainBlame
@PainBlame 5 жыл бұрын
Sure just need a Visa and a passport, and drive down to Mexico and Canada, or drive 1500 miles to Detroit. Didn't think that one out huh
@PatrickBoening
@PatrickBoening 5 жыл бұрын
You did not understand how capitalism works, it seems!
@DeeRandhawa
@DeeRandhawa 5 жыл бұрын
You can but you’ll have to pay shipping handling and other fees.
@johnhudson3095
@johnhudson3095 4 жыл бұрын
in 2017 i bought a 2016 corolla. i already had my own financing lined up through my bank. it was golden to see the finance guy.. he turned nearly every shade of red when i said i have my own financing. :) it was wonderful. i loved every moment of it.
@HughTexJudd
@HughTexJudd 4 жыл бұрын
haha, worked as a mechanic for several dealerships in my 20s.. this is so flipping true. I have tried to train my family and friends on these angles... only a few have ever listened to me.
@reesedaniel5835
@reesedaniel5835 4 жыл бұрын
If there weren't so many stupid people who fall for their scams, they wouldn't get away with it. I'm having to do without a car because I refuse to be SCAMMED.
@reesedaniel5835
@reesedaniel5835 4 жыл бұрын
So they just wait until a cud chewing dumb ass comes along. No problem for them.
@T-roccBABY
@T-roccBABY 3 жыл бұрын
So if I'm looking at a used car from a Toyota dealership what should I do? I haven't banked with a credit union since 2014, can I get them to finance something for me even if I don't bank with them?
@sabrinae5576
@sabrinae5576 4 жыл бұрын
I went to look at a car this weekend by myself ( I'm a 24 year old girl ) and let me tell u these salesmen are aggressive 🤣 I was saying how I loved the car but not the total price and he kept saying well u can put a bigger down payment down and it'll lessen the monthky payments. I was like NO . I want the TOTAL price down lol then he wanted to run my credit sooo bad to get a "deal' with his manager but he did not put that total price down AT ALL. I'm currently trying to watch videos in how to negotiate 🤣
@dutchcanuck3102
@dutchcanuck3102 4 жыл бұрын
Don't let them know you are in love with the car, they'll use that to their advantage. Good luck.
@martincorreapaniagua9910
@martincorreapaniagua9910 4 жыл бұрын
Corey That’s so true! Always run your numbers & negotiate. Don’t let them play you on your emotion.
@greyhound9960
@greyhound9960 4 жыл бұрын
Did you ever get a car?
@sabrinae5576
@sabrinae5576 4 жыл бұрын
@@greyhound9960 that one definitely not. I found one and got a great price though thanks to all the KZbin videos I've watched lol trying to purchase but corona virus is interfering 🤣
@edrossbeats916
@edrossbeats916 4 жыл бұрын
Just tell them no no no until they say yes. You're the customer, remember!
@jakemarsee7864
@jakemarsee7864 2 жыл бұрын
I’ll never understand why anyone would buy from a dealership just buy from private sellers.
@Morenitto89
@Morenitto89 5 жыл бұрын
When you walk into a car dealership, the only thing you should be negotiating is the price of the car and nothing else. Best bet is to go to a credit union(not a bank) to get a lower APR and a monthly payment price you can afford
@logdon17
@logdon17 5 жыл бұрын
So I went to a dealer and found used Camry off lease with service records and clean title and had my mechanic green light it. They said the internet price was essentially cash in hand or financed through their bank even though I said I had my own credit union financing. I ended up buying the car with their financing at a great price and immediately had my credit union refinance a short term loan at 2.5%. Pain in the behind for sure but the numbers in the end were stellar.
@giggityeffyou
@giggityeffyou 4 жыл бұрын
I don't understand why people don't ski basic math. If you're telling me I'm getting the car for X amount but I'm crunching the numbers and things aren't adding up.. I need lower numbers or I'm leaving!
@PapaGoody
@PapaGoody 5 жыл бұрын
My favorite part is when they send you to the finance department, make you wait 45 min to an hour so that you are so anxious to get the hell out of there that you wont read any of the details on all the paperwork they "throw" at you.
@Aikidoman06
@Aikidoman06 5 жыл бұрын
Go to dealership on Sunday, take a picture of the VIN and car. Go to your credit union and secure a loan. Sale your car based on the book value and use that value as your down payment. Then pay off the loan in under 30 months, closer to 24. Best bet is to find the car you want that's four year old and get that. Save up and pay cash. Cars are such a rip off.
@ProjectXJ
@ProjectXJ 5 жыл бұрын
Or just pay cash... if you can't afford the car don't buy it. You will save money buying an old junker and putting money into it, over buying a new car and not spending a dime on it. Just compare insurance rates and registration. My vehicle is a 97 and my wife's is an 07. I paid $85 for one year registration for my wife's car and $65 for 5 years for mine! Insurance is only $98/year. Compare that to the $300 per month for a new car plus $600/year registration and $1,000/year insurance. My yearly cost is cheaper than your monthly cost. I can take the extra $420/month I am saving and fix up my old car!
@martinicaUSA
@martinicaUSA 5 жыл бұрын
The next day the car might be gone or sold to another client.
@TheTurbinator
@TheTurbinator 5 жыл бұрын
Cars aren't a rip-off if you buy used, buy smart, and buy something you love, and you maintain it yourself.
@KagemushaRonin
@KagemushaRonin 5 жыл бұрын
@@ProjectXJ I pay $97 a month to insure my 2018 Civic Hatchback Turbo. You must have a lot of speeding tickets or something. AND im in my 20's Edit: Also my registrations is less than $300 AND I don't have to worry about repairs or "fixing it up" for the next 6+ years, only maintenance. What freakin new cars were you looking at? $60,000 BMWs???!!!
@ProjectXJ
@ProjectXJ 5 жыл бұрын
@@KagemushaRonin $100 per month for 12 months is $1200. That is more than the $1000 per year I suggested. My 2017 silverado work truck is over $700 per year for registration. I tried to be somewhat conservative in my numbers. One speeding ticket in 2007. :(
@ryank1191
@ryank1191 2 жыл бұрын
It’s just so frustrating because you never know how much more the dealer can come down in price. Every time I’ve ever settled on a price on a monthly payment, I’ve always wondered how much more I really could’ve saved if I haggled more.
@googiegress
@googiegress Жыл бұрын
If they just barely refuse, you can still go down about 10% more and they still make money on the deal.
@kellykeefe3610
@kellykeefe3610 4 жыл бұрын
My Brother has been in the car business forever. His advice: "always pay cash for a good used vehicle" if you always do this you will be able to retire at 60. His advice for a good used car,any Toyota Carolla. My last car was purchased from a dealership, NEVER again will I buy from these thieves!
@josephdiaz7019
@josephdiaz7019 4 жыл бұрын
Kelly Keefe Is your brother named Scotty Kilmer?
@kellykeefe3610
@kellykeefe3610 4 жыл бұрын
@@josephdiaz7019 No- but he is a lot like Scotty-he does not take anyone's bullshit!
@Saivailed
@Saivailed 4 жыл бұрын
@Gus Goose I'm glad somebody said it.
@WhiteBoardFinance
@WhiteBoardFinance 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I buy german luxury cars at peak depreciation, drive them, enjoy then, and sell them
@bobsimcox1194
@bobsimcox1194 4 жыл бұрын
@Gus Goose in your case that would be true but a lot of folks look at a car as getting from point A to point B
@zjgvergara
@zjgvergara 5 жыл бұрын
Last time I bought my truck the salesman kept asking me what monthly price I can afford, I kept telling him that I already had a pre-approved loan from my bank and don’t want to negotiate payments with him. I wanted to negotiate price. Every trick in the book happened as you said. In the end I was able to negotiate price to where I was comfortable and they were able to beat my banks percentage rate.
@WhiteBoardFinance
@WhiteBoardFinance 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your story and for watching! I speak from experience lol.
@joexiong13
@joexiong13 5 жыл бұрын
Good news. They still won. 1. Sold you a vehicle. 2. Get Incentive from financing with then. 3. Earn a customer. As long as you’re happy.
@k3iler05
@k3iler05 5 жыл бұрын
@Im_Tired_Too if you do please comment back. In the market for a truck as well.
@cmiller6352
@cmiller6352 5 жыл бұрын
I actually convinced the Honda sales consultant to offer a price FIRST. The “internet sales price” was $33795. His reply to my email was $33000. I replied and offered $32000. We agreed on $32500. For someone who has purchased just three cars since 2000, i was pretty happy with the outcome.
@huhhahuh
@huhhahuh 5 жыл бұрын
I don’t have a problem with dealerships. I understand they’re just trying to maximize profits. It’s dishonest salesmen I have an issue with
@Ethzega
@Ethzega 5 жыл бұрын
Funny story I went to dealer and they gave me 8% of interest and I left them and go to my bank they gave 1.74%.
@gorgewashingtonful
@gorgewashingtonful 5 жыл бұрын
Wow such a badass
@Sergiotransmite
@Sergiotransmite 5 жыл бұрын
That means the dealership doesn't work with your bank.
@martyblue7126
@martyblue7126 5 жыл бұрын
sergio gentili o
@martyblue7126
@martyblue7126 5 жыл бұрын
sergio gentili ooo
@tyrehester5550
@tyrehester5550 5 жыл бұрын
Surroundrive Show Car manufacturers have their own banks: GM finance, Toyota finance....the dealership finances through them, not a local bank.
@mrspeeddemon727
@mrspeeddemon727 2 жыл бұрын
This video is 2 years old now but I can not express enough his advise to go get pre-approval at a good bank or credit union FIRST before going to a car dealership. It works.
@michaelmclain7049
@michaelmclain7049 Жыл бұрын
Do you get pre approval for a specific amount first? Or do you find the car you want and then approach the credit union?
@Equismaximus
@Equismaximus 5 жыл бұрын
I love this guy and his comments like "if you go for this, your an idiot". Killer and truthful. Sad fact is this guy knows what he is talking about. Keep up the good work Marko! Maximus
@WhiteBoardFinance
@WhiteBoardFinance 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@Y_hass
@Y_hass 5 жыл бұрын
*you're.
@jeffflowers5489
@jeffflowers5489 5 жыл бұрын
You have 6.7K dislikes. That’s how many car dealers have watched the video.
@WhiteBoardFinance
@WhiteBoardFinance 5 жыл бұрын
100%
@freddyj1728
@freddyj1728 5 жыл бұрын
Haha
@stefanbabic4450
@stefanbabic4450 5 жыл бұрын
no, that is how many people common sense
@jeffflowers5489
@jeffflowers5489 5 жыл бұрын
stefan babic which dealership do you work for?
@jeffflowers5489
@jeffflowers5489 5 жыл бұрын
Scott Southpark Canada we can argue whether he’s a moral guy that wanted out or a crook that was forced out. I’ve heard his and similar stories through the years.
@CryptoNard
@CryptoNard 5 жыл бұрын
The key to buying a car is get a used car that is 2 to 3 years old. New cars drop in value a lot after the first few years. Next, put down a down payment or do a trade in. The less you finance the less you pay back in the long run. Now if you're really being smart keep your old car that is paid off and put aside $250 to $300 a month (imaginary car note) and sit on that for 12 to 24 months and go by a used car straight up. No debt or no monthly payments.
@chad1755
@chad1755 5 жыл бұрын
Never do a trade-in. Sell it privately. Dealerships will offer you $500 for a car that you can sell privately for $2-3 grand. You might as well give it away. Everything else you said is bang on the money. I start saving for my next car the day after I drive home my new one.
@WCPFISH
@WCPFISH 5 жыл бұрын
@Terry Melvin agreed.. another tip: buy a car that maintains value, that will take some research but there are some that sink like a rock and you're upside down at almost any time in the car's lifecycle. I buy only Subarus now and my WRX is worth far more than what I owe on it.
@Jaylyons1
@Jaylyons1 5 жыл бұрын
Unless you get the new car for a used car price. I've been pretty successful at that, but it takes patience and ya gotta be willing to travel a bit to do it. Last one I bought was over 800 miles away. But paying $12k for a car with an MSRP of $23k isn't too shabby.
@NevanRead
@NevanRead 2 жыл бұрын
I bought a Tesla and I completely avoided all of this Bs. Best purchasing experience ever!
@chaderic27
@chaderic27 4 жыл бұрын
Had a huge dealership pull this 4-Square game. The guy said he would go talk to sales manager...leaves me waiting 10 minutes, comes back and never talked to manager. They want to keep you waiting until you lose patience and cave in. No Way! Walk right out the door! Use a finance calculator for payments and look at the difference in amount of interest you'll pay on a 60 month vs 48 month loan. I would never do a 72 or 84 month loan, some cars don't last that long and then you're stuck with payments on a car you can't drive. Also had a salesman give me a quote no trade, then a few days later got a quote with the trade in and the numbers were exactly the same! They weren't giving me anything for my trade in. Don't be afraid to walk away, Dave Ramsey had some pretty good financial lessons about car buying.
@mafs13
@mafs13 4 жыл бұрын
If your car doesn't last 6/7 years you bought the wrong car lol...
@andytwentyman9573
@andytwentyman9573 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry man, but your level of understand on this is lacking
@heerojillo9663
@heerojillo9663 4 жыл бұрын
I think the concept of this video is some wisdom that everyone should know or knew yet never use it from their own. "Pay attention of details" perhaps ring a bell here?
@stckyjoey1
@stckyjoey1 5 жыл бұрын
My brother n law works at a dealership and when I bring this up he gets mad 😡. Lol. I luv it
@stckyjoey1
@stckyjoey1 5 жыл бұрын
Sorry, he is married to my wife's sister. 😅
@bennybop5387
@bennybop5387 5 жыл бұрын
💀
@OneSelfActualized
@OneSelfActualized 5 жыл бұрын
Jc Cuban oye Chico ya para de comer tanta pinga lol 🇨🇺
@jccuban1
@jccuban1 5 жыл бұрын
No hay mas na jajaja@@OneSelfActualized
@trevorphillips2868
@trevorphillips2868 5 жыл бұрын
Bring up Dave Ramsey car buying method.
@chadtellevik5479
@chadtellevik5479 5 жыл бұрын
I once worked at a dealership as a lot attendant. One day one of the sales guys pointed at a guy walking the lot. He says I’m gonna sell a car to this guy. I say how. He says cause I can tell he doesn’t have the balls to say no. Just say no. You don’t have to explain yourself.
@ADDwithJTC
@ADDwithJTC 5 жыл бұрын
I went to 7 dealerships before I found what I was looking for deal wise. Oh I made so many people mad lol the price difference and bullshit tactics between them all were unbelievable. The last dealer who finally made the sale almost 2 hours away was more straight up than anyone I've ever gone to like ever. Couldn't believe the difference. Everyone is out to make money, sure. But these guys were very reasonable. This was my first and last brand new car purchase, off my bucket list. Private and cash only from here on out. Good luck to you all. Stand your ground.
@artob
@artob 5 жыл бұрын
@@ADDwithJTC maybe say who the good dealer was?
@ADDwithJTC
@ADDwithJTC 5 жыл бұрын
@@artob Downs Ford Toms River. Ron was my salesman. When I get my Mustang in a couple years that's where I'll be going.
@01IveR01
@01IveR01 5 жыл бұрын
@Chad Tellevik true. I went prepared as I had already researched and compared pricing online and at dealerships. Mine you this was my 1st new car purchase from a dealership. When I went I knew how much I wanted to pay for the car and the interest rate I wanted a d the down payment I was willing to give. They gave me that desperate sales tactic line "someone already interested in the car are you willing to pay a couple thousand more for down payment" 😏. I said "no thanks, I said already what I'm able to pay & the down payment I'm willing to give. Here's my number call me when your ready to finalize a deal, good day". Walked out less than 30 minutes later I get the call "Miss the car is yours."😁. Don't play with them the more you let them talk the more they lie & add on to the the price. Like rust protection they'll charge you average $2000 at least 5yrs ago. But if you go directly to the rust protection business it's about at least in my area $300+ $600 depending on car size and if you also want the inside of your cars floors and trunk done.
@PrussianZwei
@PrussianZwei 5 жыл бұрын
I wish I saw your comment months ago. Think that small edge would have stopped me from being pressured into some bullshit vehicle I didn't want.
@tonycamisi4821
@tonycamisi4821 2 жыл бұрын
This was amazing. I am in the process of buying a car and this gives me way more confidence about understanding my decision. Thank you, Marko.
@alanocana1970
@alanocana1970 2 жыл бұрын
Marko changed skin color 💀
@MattGarcyaDC
@MattGarcyaDC Жыл бұрын
how did it go
@NickFrom1228
@NickFrom1228 5 жыл бұрын
3 Thousand downvotes. Probably every auto dealer in the country.
@georgetaylor1063
@georgetaylor1063 5 жыл бұрын
Nick Knight No, I’m a financial person, this video is waste of time.
@darrelltowles4099
@darrelltowles4099 5 жыл бұрын
You took the words right out of my mouth
@darrelltowles4099
@darrelltowles4099 5 жыл бұрын
@@georgetaylor1063 I'm curious why do you disagree?
@NickFrom1228
@NickFrom1228 5 жыл бұрын
@@georgetaylor1063 Cool. I always like to hear counter arguments. Can you give us details as to why?
@gilbertgarcialaffitte4288
@gilbertgarcialaffitte4288 5 жыл бұрын
Nick Knight I just did for George, when ever you can read my comments and you’ll see
@KuduBal
@KuduBal 5 жыл бұрын
Damn! I literally got suckered like this today! BTW, you can also add “fear of losing the deal due to bad credit score” to their bag of tricks !!
@lievaleo5746
@lievaleo5746 4 жыл бұрын
Yup, but if you can get family member with good credit to co-sign, you're golden.
@jasoncortellesso4245
@jasoncortellesso4245 4 жыл бұрын
ain't no trick to paying ya bills
@justacinnamonbun8658
@justacinnamonbun8658 4 жыл бұрын
You need to understand that FICO does not determine anything. Leave FICO alone, stick to buying good used cars, with cash. Never buy new, new cars are a poor value proposition. Don't follow the Joneses, if you do, you'll be right behind them in bankruptcy court. If you're not a car guy or mechanically inclined, develop a good relationship with a trusted neighborhood mechanic, they usually charge a small fee to inspect a car before you buy it, paying $50-$100 for a thorough inspection can save you thousands of dollars in expensive repairs down the road.
@Theegoaat
@Theegoaat 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve got great credit so I always get 0% or like 0.9% max I like to lease as well. I bring my wife she haggles the fuck out of the dealer. Haha I don’t like to but I think she enjoys it.
@ajwernert21
@ajwernert21 5 жыл бұрын
How to buy a car: 1. Pay cash or 2. If financing any amount is necessary go through a credit union for low rate
@studentthe1560
@studentthe1560 5 жыл бұрын
But do not tell them up front that you are paying cash. Otherwise, you will alert them that they cannot screw you in finances. Bottom line, the more transactions you give them, the more chances you are giving them to screw you over.
@123hotdog111
@123hotdog111 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Marko for this video. I don't buy trucks often but I have this video saved and every single time one of my friends talks about buying a car, I send them this video.
@prettylady6013
@prettylady6013 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve never financed a car in my life and never will. I buy it in cash, if not I’m on the bus 🤷🏾‍♀️
@blacksilverchair3315
@blacksilverchair3315 4 жыл бұрын
That's how I roll too. 😊
@blacksilverchair3315
@blacksilverchair3315 4 жыл бұрын
@Coolride17 ok Boomer.
@sherifhassan9791
@sherifhassan9791 4 жыл бұрын
@Reginald N looooool
@cfoster6804
@cfoster6804 4 жыл бұрын
@Reginald N 🤣🤣
@mirandam5746
@mirandam5746 4 жыл бұрын
I’m 30 yrs old, have never financed a car. Now I can afford it But the more I research the more I’m fine with my 06 corolla.
@guendoff2400
@guendoff2400 5 жыл бұрын
Everytime I walk into a dealership... I head straight to the soda pop and popcorn machine, grab what I can and walk straight out.
@mysteryof7
@mysteryof7 5 жыл бұрын
😂😂
@TheMagache
@TheMagache 5 жыл бұрын
Gold
@bicboss4486
@bicboss4486 5 жыл бұрын
u made me laugh soo hard... LOL
@GarlandRentalsllc
@GarlandRentalsllc 5 жыл бұрын
too funny!!!
@studioedin5288
@studioedin5288 5 жыл бұрын
What IF you buy car with cash? And they lower the car price?
@CB-nr2nk
@CB-nr2nk 5 жыл бұрын
If you are buying a car, you should care about one thing. The amount you are paying. If you are concerned with the other three, you are not in a financial position to buy a car, or you are in a position to be taken advantage of. Sell your car yourself, get financing from your bank at a low rate, walk in and eliminate this silly 4 square nonsense.
@firstlast-cs6eg
@firstlast-cs6eg 5 жыл бұрын
You could even buy the car from a individual and not a dealership. Buy and sell outside of any dealership unless you want and can afford a new car. There is also the possibility of simply using public transit, car pooling, and/or a bicycle combined with finding work closer to home or moving closer to work. Also make sure grocery store is close enough. Cars are money sink holes no matter what, (insurance, gas, maintenance, tabs etc) finding ways of going without one is always worth looking into.
@theenchilada1525
@theenchilada1525 5 жыл бұрын
@@firstlast-cs6eg Pretty much. A car is not an investment. But a petrol head like me will enjoy then.
@firstlast-cs6eg
@firstlast-cs6eg 5 жыл бұрын
@@theenchilada1525 What is a "petrol head"? And the end of that second sentence ... I didn't understand it at all.
@WrapperOfflineFan204
@WrapperOfflineFan204 5 жыл бұрын
6% is lower than 16%. Price isn't the only factor
@insidmal
@insidmal 5 жыл бұрын
@@WrapperOfflineFan204 exactly... one dealership gave me 34% interest, I didn't care because I was paying mostly cash and would have the rest paid off within 3 months.. but a year later another lender gave me 1.9% ..people will argue all day over $1,000 off the sticker price but not bat an eye at paying triple that when the dealership marks up their interest by 1.5%
@oneofthepeopleintheback5645
@oneofthepeopleintheback5645 2 жыл бұрын
Not only that... simply multiply the monthly payment by the term length to see how much in interest you are forking over.... It will open your eyes as you will see you've pretty much bought a compact car with the interest alone!
@jettrink7510
@jettrink7510 4 жыл бұрын
I got ganged up on by the salesman, floor manager, sales manager, and finance Honcho. What a bad trip baby...
@carmentall1166
@carmentall1166 4 жыл бұрын
so what happened?
@fabiannino4106
@fabiannino4106 3 жыл бұрын
Same thing happened to me today but I already knew how they work so I argued with them a little bit just for fun then walked off.
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