How Carthage Explored the World in Antiquity DOCUMENTARY

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@InvictaHistory
@InvictaHistory 4 жыл бұрын
I am super exited to be talking about the overlooked explorers of antiquity! You can check out the actual records of the Periplus of Hanno here: www.livius.org/articles/person/hanno-1-the-navigator/hanno-1-the-navigator-2/
@brokenbridge6316
@brokenbridge6316 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder. Have you made a video on the Medjay. Probably not. Your probably really busy.
@Fred_L.
@Fred_L. 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the link. The English translation of the text is given with parallel annotations which are super interesting.
@jaded1442
@jaded1442 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Very interesting topic, keep up the great content!
@InvictaHistory
@InvictaHistory 4 жыл бұрын
@@brokenbridge6316 I have actually given that a thought as a "Unit of History" episode
@brokenbridge6316
@brokenbridge6316 4 жыл бұрын
@@InvictaHistory---Okay. Sounds good. Hope the video is up soon.
@pumpkin2477
@pumpkin2477 4 жыл бұрын
Carthage is so massively underrated in the field of history
@octo1894
@octo1894 4 жыл бұрын
@Ironclaw XII Rome's society was not tough as nails. For centuries afterwards Romans remained frightened of the very name Hannibal, almost like a boogeyman. The reality is, Rome simply outmatched Carthage in one thing and one thing only. Manpower. Sure, Carthage had a better framework for conducting warfare, literally inventing the combined arms model of war. With Mago's reforms, Carthage invented the Pilum equipped heavy infantry as checkboard positioned units that rendered the Phalanx obsolete. The so called 'Phalanx with joints' designed to break up turtling Greeks in Sicily and then the Falcata goes to do its bloody work. The Romans copied this and it's now called a Legion. Romans copied the Carthaginians mass production capabilities for ships by reverse engineer a captured vessel. Copied Carthage's governing systems as well. Carthage was the first republic and had a much more complex civic system than Rome. Non of this mattered. Rome could afford to raise army after army and bludgeon Carthage to death with sheer numbers alone.
@octo1894
@octo1894 4 жыл бұрын
@Ironclaw XII That was a sad and pathetic attempt at internet smacktalk. They weren't "tough as nails", whatever the frak that means. They were normal human beings with the knowledge that they could re-enter the war with a decade when their next round of able bodied men reached puberty but their enemy could not. You can beat your chest as much as you like, call a stranger on the internet names and try desperately to prove some ancient people, who's character outside of imagination is unknown to anyone, are somehow "tough". But that's weird and childish and wrong.
@octo1894
@octo1894 4 жыл бұрын
@Ironclaw XII LMAO take your meds
@Crafty_Spirit
@Crafty_Spirit 4 жыл бұрын
We are here to correct that 👌🏾
@Crafty_Spirit
@Crafty_Spirit 4 жыл бұрын
@Ironclaw XII You can call them tough for not giving up, but mind that Hannibal's forces also didn't give up - and stayed for over a decade in hostile territories, short of reinforcements, while the Romans were stationed on home ground.
@EloiFL
@EloiFL 4 жыл бұрын
Carthaginians: * find gorillas * Gorillas: uhuhuhuaaaaaaHHHHHHREEEEE Carthaginians: Wanna do bussiness?
@marrqi7wini54
@marrqi7wini54 4 жыл бұрын
As the old saying goes, "Apes together strong"
@AlexIncarnate911
@AlexIncarnate911 4 жыл бұрын
@@marrqi7wini54 Did you just call Carthaginians apes?? :O
@miguelmontenegro3520
@miguelmontenegro3520 4 жыл бұрын
Carthagineans had a Trading fever for sure. Even harder than Venice's
@ribbitgoesthedoglastnamehe4681
@ribbitgoesthedoglastnamehe4681 4 жыл бұрын
Carthaginians *find eskimos* Also carthaginians: Wanna buy some ice? A snowcone?
@aBerlin1945
@aBerlin1945 4 жыл бұрын
And that's how Carthage first imported bananas.
@coffee5981
@coffee5981 4 жыл бұрын
It's so nice to learn about Carthage outside of the Punic Wars. Excellent video!
@phillipgathright8001
@phillipgathright8001 4 жыл бұрын
"The darkness can be frightening, but it is also an invitation to those with torches." That's deep, man.
@jammy7915
@jammy7915 4 жыл бұрын
Greeks: oooo past the Pillars of Hercules is nothing but sure death spooky Punics: sounds like i could trade there
@ΓΕΡΑΣΙΜΟΣΔΡΑΚΑΤΟΣ-π9θ
@ΓΕΡΑΣΙΜΟΣΔΡΑΚΑΤΟΣ-π9θ 4 жыл бұрын
I suspect sea monsters tales were used to conceal profitable trade routes.
@zeus0710
@zeus0710 4 жыл бұрын
@HanselManCan the Phonecians from the Levant already had an established trade route all the way to the Tin islands in modern southern England since the Bronze age. but it was a secret route they only knew about. I believe the Carthaginians wanted to take over that trade route after all they were Phonecians too.
@jammy7915
@jammy7915 4 жыл бұрын
@HanselManCan of course, was just writing from the common dichotomy we see of the Greek and Punic trade, exploration, and colonization, how the Punic peoples seemed to rove more widely and dynamically for the purposes of international trade primarily, whereas the Greeks did it more for finding land for colonies to feed the homeland (hence finding no use in colonies so far away from Greece until the later periods, when they started more dynamic and opportunistic trading in earnest)
@hannibalbarca8411
@hannibalbarca8411 4 жыл бұрын
@@jammy7915 *carthaginians
@jammy7915
@jammy7915 4 жыл бұрын
@@hannibalbarca8411 en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punics Often the terms are used interchangeably, and i prefer Punic as there had to have been explorers from other cities both before and during Carthage's hegemony, and describing pre-Carthaginian explorers as Carthaginian seems misleading on the achievements of those cities and their peoples. It would be misleading to call the achievements of Latins and Etruscans as Roman even tho they were soon eclipsed by the Roman peoples, even as Latin and Roman can be used interchangeably also. Purely intellectual of a differentiation tho so to each their own
@lucisferre6361
@lucisferre6361 4 жыл бұрын
Got to learn a new word, "periplus" as well as an intriguing story to accompany it. Much appreciated.
@mdstanton1813
@mdstanton1813 4 жыл бұрын
Check out the periplus of the erythraen sea
@yannickbaroue
@yannickbaroue 4 жыл бұрын
In French we have the word périple that means to navigate around. It also means a long trip with a lot of obstacles.
@mwanikimwaniki6801
@mwanikimwaniki6801 4 жыл бұрын
@@mdstanton1813 By Ptolemy... Right?
@mdstanton1813
@mdstanton1813 4 жыл бұрын
@@mwanikimwaniki6801 yup!
@Anglomachian
@Anglomachian 4 жыл бұрын
Athens: back up, noobs, OG right here.
@Paris-xv9sj
@Paris-xv9sj 4 жыл бұрын
Herodotus : * creates History * Also Herodotus : *THERE IS GIANT ANTS THE SIZE OF FOXES IN INDIA*
@Isleep-walking
@Isleep-walking 4 жыл бұрын
There still is. They are just hiding...
@Paris-xv9sj
@Paris-xv9sj 4 жыл бұрын
@@Isleep-walking I know it, this is a plot against the dwelling people who shrieked like bats in Libya...
@moriskurth628
@moriskurth628 4 жыл бұрын
Apparently those were some sort of Himalayan Marmot, iirc. They are, very roughly, the size of foxes, and have their dens mostly underground.
@molybdaen11
@molybdaen11 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe they went home?
@obobobobobi
@obobobobobi 4 жыл бұрын
They made all those voyages up just sleeping by olive tree but they did have a written language. Meanwhile the Vikings did all the exploring but did not have a written language so we don't know.
@katiecat9353
@katiecat9353 4 жыл бұрын
Ancient Carthaginians: *sees gorillas* "Gee those sure are some hairy people."
@MrRedberd
@MrRedberd 4 жыл бұрын
So...we filleted a couple of their women and brought their skins home with us.
@lobstered_blue-lobster
@lobstered_blue-lobster 3 жыл бұрын
I am surprised they didn't note how fat they were as it was one obvious trait Gurrelilas have....I gues Political Correctness existed back then as well!
@shawnkanevsky9799
@shawnkanevsky9799 4 жыл бұрын
Remember when this was a total war channel? This is one of my favorite history channels, but it's strange knowing this was once a gaming channel.
@lordaragorn001
@lordaragorn001 4 жыл бұрын
i remember oakley doing those rome 2 vlogs and weekly online battles.good days.
@derekbradshaw9040
@derekbradshaw9040 4 жыл бұрын
Dude I first found this channel when I was black out drunk, I sat near my toilet all night and watched the total war videos because I was too drunk/sick to sleep. Both the channel and I have come a long way since then and we’ve been friends since that night❤️
@lite4998
@lite4998 4 жыл бұрын
I remember! It used to be called Oakley Total War right? He made Rome II videos about using real historical tactics in multiplayer battles.
@ياالله-ج9م
@ياالله-ج9م 4 жыл бұрын
@@lite4998 The Phoenicians were cowards and the army of Carthage were Berbers
@lite4998
@lite4998 4 жыл бұрын
Eᑎᗩᔕ lol what compelled you to tell me this exactly? xD
@cengiztaner4754
@cengiztaner4754 4 жыл бұрын
I can never hear enough of Carthage. Amazing video.
@frommy725
@frommy725 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Invicta! I would love to know or see one of your videos on how armies communicated during battles? :) how they carried out tactics etc. huge fan :)
@InvictaHistory
@InvictaHistory 4 жыл бұрын
That's a pretty good idea. I'll see if we can cook something up for that.
@frommy725
@frommy725 4 жыл бұрын
Invicta legend! Look forward to it :)
@odd-ysseusdoesstuff6347
@odd-ysseusdoesstuff6347 4 жыл бұрын
Invicta Awesome! Will be waiting for it!
@ribbitgoesthedoglastnamehe4681
@ribbitgoesthedoglastnamehe4681 4 жыл бұрын
How Napoleon did it: "Advance towards the sound of gunfire."
@joshuakevinserdan9331
@joshuakevinserdan9331 4 жыл бұрын
@@frommy725 Damn man, great suggestion Dave! Hope Invicta does it... I'm kinda excited on how communication of armies changed between generals, armies, and time.
@benjamino.7475
@benjamino.7475 4 жыл бұрын
Hairy people, known as gorillas.. fascinating
@cortexavery1324
@cortexavery1324 4 жыл бұрын
Who said know as gorillas ? You're interpreting the images he's showing as the truth but even he, I'm sure, would not say it is gorillas for sure.
@goosequillian
@goosequillian 4 жыл бұрын
@@cortexavery1324 'I am sure for sure?' Is this Carthaginian language?
@buchan448
@buchan448 4 жыл бұрын
LOL it was true though
@hedgehog3180
@hedgehog3180 4 жыл бұрын
@@cortexavery1324 But he literally did say Gorillae like did you watch the video? I'm sure that's a Greek translation but like it's still what the text said.
@lpcanilla92
@lpcanilla92 4 жыл бұрын
@@cortexavery1324 In fact, the word "gorilla" comes from this account from Hanno. When the animal was classified, they referenced Hanno's travels to name it.
@raphlvlogs271
@raphlvlogs271 4 жыл бұрын
Carthage is so underrated by modern pop culture( film, books and video games)
@aymendaadaa8685
@aymendaadaa8685 4 жыл бұрын
im tunisian and i live in modern day carthage and sadly little tunisian know about the full carthagian history
@lordaragorn001
@lordaragorn001 4 жыл бұрын
Good, lets keep it that way. don't want to see black hannibals.
@xenotypos
@xenotypos 4 жыл бұрын
@@lordaragorn001 Lol.
@xenotypos
@xenotypos 4 жыл бұрын
Weren't Carthaginans simply from the Phoenician civilization ? I think the underrated ones are juste the Phoenicians in general, often ignored despite their positive influence on the Greeks.
@Number1Irishlad
@Number1Irishlad 4 жыл бұрын
@@xenotypos carthaginians were phoenician, but i think after tyre collapsed/fell from prominence, Carthage grew more than tyre ever did
@cristianvillanueva8782
@cristianvillanueva8782 4 жыл бұрын
I for one would love to see an animated series of Hanno exploring the ancient world.
@chaun9521
@chaun9521 4 жыл бұрын
What about an open world game
@igorignaz5319
@igorignaz5319 Жыл бұрын
@@chaun9521 haha that would be a huuge open world to cover :D
@HighlightArtCenter
@HighlightArtCenter Жыл бұрын
@chaun9521 That would be really entertaining!
@agora5230
@agora5230 Жыл бұрын
I was thinking the exact same thing
@connorgolden4
@connorgolden4 4 жыл бұрын
Last time I was this early bronze was still the best.
@AbrahamLincoln4
@AbrahamLincoln4 4 жыл бұрын
I was a little late. I was still running for President in 1860. Few thousand years off sadly.
@danielchequer5842
@danielchequer5842 4 жыл бұрын
I'm a bit late, now iron is trending
@termeownator
@termeownator 4 жыл бұрын
While bronze may be terribly clever, stone was all my old dad needed to feed a family of as many hands as I have and then more than that
@ياالله-ج9م
@ياالله-ج9م 4 жыл бұрын
@@termeownator The Phoenicians were cowards and the army of Carthage were Berbers
@termeownator
@termeownator 4 жыл бұрын
@@ياالله-ج9م okay
@SirWilliamKidney
@SirWilliamKidney 4 жыл бұрын
"And even related generas, like science and true crime, which are historical in nature." Huh, I've heard like six different youtubers repeat this phrase. Let people put in in their own words, Magellan!
@ياالله-ج9م
@ياالله-ج9م 4 жыл бұрын
The Phoenicians were cowards and the army of Carthage were Berbers
@Mikeztarp
@Mikeztarp 4 жыл бұрын
7:18 100 km = 54 nautical miles (in case anyone was wondering like me) As for the Tin Islands, Brittany and Cornwall were indeed big sources of tin in Antiquity (Brittany isn't an island, but it contains islands).
@2bingtim
@2bingtim 2 жыл бұрын
c64 miles, not 54.
@HungryLoki
@HungryLoki Жыл бұрын
@@2bingtim You're confusing nautical miles and regular miles.
@2bingtim
@2bingtim Жыл бұрын
@@HungryLoki Ah, quite right thanks.
@Verteidiger99
@Verteidiger99 4 жыл бұрын
dat Runescape tin ore rock at 11:25 LMAO I love you
@blakemathis2694
@blakemathis2694 4 жыл бұрын
I love this series on Carthage! Please continue onward; you guys are awesome!
@spinakker14
@spinakker14 4 жыл бұрын
I've learned so much about Carthage from you. All I had known from history lessons and age of empires that it was an enemy of Rome and that they had war elephants It's a fascinating civilization, I wish to learn more about it
@HebaruSan
@HebaruSan 4 жыл бұрын
Well if Himilco made it to Cornwall, then I suppose his mission to find the Tin Isles was a success.
@MegaBarnacle
@MegaBarnacle 3 жыл бұрын
Why
@elcidsnare07
@elcidsnare07 3 жыл бұрын
@@MegaBarnacle Because historically there was a lot of tin in Cornwall.
@jonbaxter2254
@jonbaxter2254 2 жыл бұрын
He was after cider
@condor237
@condor237 2 жыл бұрын
Well yeah, they didn’t know Cornwall was a peninsula. They thought it was an island: the tin islands
@neathizar9743
@neathizar9743 4 жыл бұрын
Just imagine being the translator for Hanno, hardly leaving your village, then these people on boats talk to you who then take you so far away neither of you know the language and look very different from you
@cerridianempire1653
@cerridianempire1653 4 жыл бұрын
Hanno: first day on the job and your doing shit The translator: * sad translator noises *
@hyperion3145
@hyperion3145 3 жыл бұрын
You don't need to imagine, you can just go to a random country and find out
@johntitor1256
@johntitor1256 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine being a translator for Hanno, and your expedition leader says you have to ask a bunch of gorillas if they're interested in trade with Carthage.
@2bingtim
@2bingtim 2 жыл бұрын
For the Celtic world languages would've been fairly close, so from Britain, down the French Atlantic & Mediterranean coast plus parts of Spain the structure & many words would be reasonably decipherable.
@neathizar9743
@neathizar9743 2 жыл бұрын
@@johntitor1256 lmfao Greetings, we have elegant pearls from our country, could you take us to your king? Harambe's 15th great grandfather "Grunt, *sniff, hoo hoo huh"
@generalRAAM95
@generalRAAM95 4 жыл бұрын
I like very much these Carthaginian videos. It's an underrated culture. If it wasn't Rome, I'm sure a world under Carthage wouldn't be bad at all either.
@mrlovemaker5715
@mrlovemaker5715 4 жыл бұрын
I feel the same way! The fact that these guys were settling/colonizing distant far off lands is just so cool.
@joshuakevinserdan9331
@joshuakevinserdan9331 4 жыл бұрын
Carthage would have to change if it was to eat the mediterranean up for lunch. I really can't imagine Carthaginians would even do it when being a good general didn't mean advancement of political life. Roman generals did it because they accidentally created a cycle. A cycle of soldiers needing land for their retirement -> needing soldiers to have more land.
@alphagamer9505
@alphagamer9505 4 жыл бұрын
The Punic Wars may be one of the most important wars in history for that reason,it changed the face of the western Mediterranean and of Europe,if Carthage won,Europe would be celtic instead of latin and more german than today
@RobinTheBot
@RobinTheBot 4 жыл бұрын
@@alphagamer9505 There would also be a lot more people without all that genocide.
@alphagamer9505
@alphagamer9505 4 жыл бұрын
@@RobinTheBot we cant know that
@Szmonk13
@Szmonk13 4 жыл бұрын
5:09 okay but when the mixtape dropping fam?
@blackbreakfast1256
@blackbreakfast1256 4 жыл бұрын
MC Victa
@ياالله-ج9م
@ياالله-ج9م 4 жыл бұрын
@@blackbreakfast1256 The Phoenicians were cowards and the army of Carthage were Berbers
@gameboyhotline3712
@gameboyhotline3712 4 жыл бұрын
They mistaken gorillas for people im dead 💀
@billparker244
@billparker244 4 жыл бұрын
But did they? "Hairy people" could be people with long hair and men with beards. Why mention their sex? Gorillas don't have prominent sex features. They all look the same. Makes me wonder if it wasn't just an extremely savage and feral group they encountered.
@jawharz9759
@jawharz9759 4 жыл бұрын
@@billparker244 but the interpreters called them gorillas
@prestongarvey7745
@prestongarvey7745 4 жыл бұрын
Bill Parker It also says they flayed and skinned them. If they where actually people that may have been a bigger deal.
@sciencefliestothemoon2305
@sciencefliestothemoon2305 4 жыл бұрын
Well in antiquity people were aware of the similarities of apes and men. Also, could have been chimps as they describe many males. And even a single silverback protecting his harem is a bit of problem even with a spear in hand.
@patricianoftheplebs6015
@patricianoftheplebs6015 4 жыл бұрын
Bill Parker perhaps you are right. After we do have feral people and a few tribes we have not had contact with. Migration is a thing. They could have just moved away after Rome showed up.
@aaronlippincott7385
@aaronlippincott7385 4 жыл бұрын
I forgot how underrated this channel is, thanks for the hard work!
@skizzik121
@skizzik121 4 жыл бұрын
is it though? it has around 830,000 subs. Thats quite a bit in the history community
@aaronlippincott7385
@aaronlippincott7385 4 жыл бұрын
@@skizzik121 lol "the history community" isn't so much of a thing on YT. People are interested in history, many people, in and outside of academia. Documentary channels are testament to that. This channel does good documentaries, yes on history, so well that I would consider this to be underrated on KZbin.
@beatthecrowd001
@beatthecrowd001 4 жыл бұрын
First time I've actually heard the accounts of this voyage in detail, thank you 🙏🏻
@wrex509
@wrex509 4 жыл бұрын
Just the information Ive been wondering about!
@TexasViking_INFP-t_5w4
@TexasViking_INFP-t_5w4 4 жыл бұрын
Beautiful story. I love learning new things because of yall. Thank you
@largavidaalosdodosn6931
@largavidaalosdodosn6931 4 жыл бұрын
If the depiction of the Gorilli is the one we think it's funny to think that people from that era thought they were other kind of hairy people 🤔
@gabrielinostroza4989
@gabrielinostroza4989 4 жыл бұрын
Well they had met Greeks before
@jason4275
@jason4275 4 жыл бұрын
@@gabrielinostroza4989 until the Turks and Armenians came along.
@belstar1128
@belstar1128 4 жыл бұрын
They probably thought humans could have very different appearances in far away regions back then now we know the only differences are skin color and eye shape but back then they assumed that there where people far away that looked like a completely different species.
@jason4275
@jason4275 4 жыл бұрын
@@belstar1128 They we lucky they did not sail to Sudan and meet the tribe where almost everyone is over 6ft tall.
@cheekybum1513
@cheekybum1513 4 жыл бұрын
Another commenter made a good point in that we’re reading a abridged translation of a translation etc, so they might not have necessarily thought the gorillas were human, just the language they used to describe them makes it seem that way.
@profileprofile7028
@profileprofile7028 2 жыл бұрын
I live in Rhode Island in the Northeast USA. There is a wildlife refuge here (Parker Woodland Audubon Society in Coventry, Rhode Island) which contains hundreds of large stone cairns. It is not known who built them, European settlers and local Indians both did not build in this way. It is speculated that the ancient Celts or Phoenicians may have built them.
@Celtokee
@Celtokee 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent subject. Two observations: (1) the fact that each of Hanno's ships would have held 500 persons is sort of glossed over. That is a monumental accomplishment, if true. If true, then this mission was indeed colonial just as much as expeditionary. They really did drop large numbers of Carthaginians in these various settlements they established along the African coast. This may have been one of the largest focused colonial ventures in history. (2) Re: the "gorillas," it's unlikely that Carthaginians, who were familiar with macaques, would have called apes humans. It's possible that the beings that they encountered were a lost species of hominid, hairy yet far more human than apes. They are still today finding new species in certain vast expanses of the Congo, still one of the largest unexplored regions on earth. As Pliny the Elder said, "There is always something new out of Africa."
@planetkc
@planetkc 4 жыл бұрын
I need more reactions from Hanno when encountering gorillas, they must have thought they were part human
@johngarcia1340
@johngarcia1340 2 жыл бұрын
i think they were bonobos
@1traphistory
@1traphistory Жыл бұрын
@@johngarcia1340 You might be right. Kind of hard to believe they chased Gorillas into trees captured a few females and all they did was bite their arms. Even true chimps would have done more damage let alone Gorillas. Either way to think they were human is wild to my modern thought process
@edaxsachorwzky8898
@edaxsachorwzky8898 4 жыл бұрын
Carthage was on Alexander’s “next to do” list
@octo1894
@octo1894 4 жыл бұрын
Then he remembered Carthage was boss and didn't want to get spanked like the Spartans in Libya and did a 180 at Egypt LMAO
@hyperion3145
@hyperion3145 3 жыл бұрын
@@octo1894 To be fair, the Spartans didn't want those guys anyway. A real boss is Syracuse. Those are some tough bastards.
@octo1894
@octo1894 3 жыл бұрын
@@hyperion3145 What makes Syracuse special? They were just Ionians before the Dorian genocide twisted the demographics. By the time Carthage had colonized the Island, in the words of the Malchus "the sons of Tyre have conquered all of Sicily" Syracuse under Hiero was an ally/client city of Carthage. Besides, among all the Greek tribes, the Thebans had the most refined martial prowess.
@octo1894
@octo1894 3 жыл бұрын
imo of course. Thebes is highly underrated
@arawn1061
@arawn1061 3 жыл бұрын
@@octo1894 bruh didnt you see how much resistance Syracuse gave to both rome and Carthage?
@allonzehe9135
@allonzehe9135 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing! More episodes about ancient expeditions please! This is such an interesting topic.
@peterroberts7684
@peterroberts7684 3 жыл бұрын
I once talked to a girl from Tunisia online,we had a good discussion on History,the people of Tunisia are very much aware of their history,like how ancient Carthage gave the Greeks their alphabet,and that “,Hannibal Barca “is a important figure in the history of their country,and indeed is a important figure of their identity ..The people of Tunisia and as well as Lebanon know the achievements of the great Phoenician civilisation..They are a Very proud and great people..
@matiusbond6052
@matiusbond6052 2 жыл бұрын
Peter Roberts..Thre inhabitants of Tunisia today have no history or relation to ancient Carthagenians who were mainly native black and brown Africans of their lands.There is plenty info on ancient Africa today,but not on whitewashed videos.The videos of( Black Carthage) and ANCIENT INHABITANTS OF CARTHAGE are only a small amount of evidence on this subject.
@elbarto7908
@elbarto7908 2 жыл бұрын
@@matiusbond6052 modern Tunisinians have nothing to do with Phoenicians and chartage, but they were absolutely not blacks 🤣🤣🤣 we have tons of descriptions and affrescos of Phoenicians by Romans, celts and Greeks, and they were similar to whites/Arabs/jews, they had an "European-middle eastearn" phenotype, just like sumerians, assyrians and other people of middle east and Mesopotamia
@Jon-yy9qs
@Jon-yy9qs 4 жыл бұрын
Just brilliant content, more Carthage please!
@6thsavage
@6thsavage 4 жыл бұрын
This is how I feel explaining MapQuest to young folk.
@googiegress
@googiegress 4 жыл бұрын
"We set out for the Starbucks, but there were many hairy people, who threw rocks at us and bit us, and we fled, and ended up eating at Sbarro"
@fleetfoot9897
@fleetfoot9897 4 жыл бұрын
This guy's presentation voice has much improved - very well done diction.
@brokenbridge6316
@brokenbridge6316 4 жыл бұрын
This was an awesome video. I loved it. One thing the Roman's will never have over the Carthaginians is exploration. Hey has anyone ever heard of any great Roman explorers?
@nnelg8139
@nnelg8139 4 жыл бұрын
Caesar explored Gaul and the coast of Britain; even wrote a book about it.
@jason4275
@jason4275 4 жыл бұрын
Romans were only interested in Plunder and as for exploring like trading in spices from India they rely on the local population to sail the dangerous seas.
@dayros2023
@dayros2023 4 жыл бұрын
Roman merchants reached the baltic sea several time, not to mention the fleet that sailed all around Great Britain. There were regular voyages to India for trade and some roman merchants allegedly reached China. The Romans were fully capable of building big ocean capable ships.
@brokenbridge6316
@brokenbridge6316 4 жыл бұрын
@@dayros2023---I know the Roman's were capable of building great ships. But did any great explorers arise from this civilization. And please don't mention Caesar. He wasn't really interested in exploration.
@dtice69
@dtice69 4 жыл бұрын
@@brokenbridge6316 he wasn't interested in it but he still did it lmfao
@hurryhussar
@hurryhussar Жыл бұрын
I don't sure why but I have a special interest in learning about civilizations who had strong determination and senses of oversea exploration and colonization. Fascinating! Keep up your works
@MemoryPallace
@MemoryPallace 4 жыл бұрын
I think of all the secret explorers that found trade routes to places unknown. Even a king doesn't know how many people leave his shore much less does he even know what's going on in his own home.
@adamtomasovic4995
@adamtomasovic4995 4 жыл бұрын
Love your documentaries about antic explorers, military and way of life! I can hear your voice in the next video: "Today we will discuss about Pytheas of Massalia and his voyages to the North." Thank you for your content
@marianconstantindumitriu6062
@marianconstantindumitriu6062 4 жыл бұрын
Invicta: "Almost a fourth of the diameter of the Earth!" Polinesians: "Lol, newbs..."
@robertcullins4636
@robertcullins4636 4 жыл бұрын
Truth
@aryowisnuwardhana6666
@aryowisnuwardhana6666 4 жыл бұрын
One of the very best episode! Thanks a lot for the informative subjects you put up here!
@galloe8933
@galloe8933 4 жыл бұрын
I like how he took the gorilla's woman like they were just other humans with lots of hair, it's kind of cute in a horrifying they kidnapped the female gorillas sort of way...
@ribbitgoesthedoglastnamehe4681
@ribbitgoesthedoglastnamehe4681 4 жыл бұрын
Kidnapping was a normal way of first contact back then. Columbus did it. How are you going to teach and learn a language if you are not talking? How are you going to talk if they run from you?
@cortexavery1324
@cortexavery1324 4 жыл бұрын
@@ribbitgoesthedoglastnamehe4681 colombus and carthage are not really the same time period, and there was man expeditions made by the greeks, the phoenicians and the chinese which although going in unknown territory did not involve kidnaping. Even Hannos made several first contacts without kidnapping. It is not to be rationalised, accepted yes, but rationalised to the point of saying it's "normal way of first contact"... My oh my...
@trla6505
@trla6505 4 жыл бұрын
@@ribbitgoesthedoglastnamehe4681 peopel only star running away when you start killing them...
@ribbitgoesthedoglastnamehe4681
@ribbitgoesthedoglastnamehe4681 4 жыл бұрын
@@trla6505 People have been killing others since times immemorial, and strangers are to be assumed to be dangerous, especially if they are armed and in large numbers. But of course you are talking about modern people in London, Paris or New York, protected by hundreds of ships, thousands of police and million soldiers and knowing no unknown threats on the entire planet, which is mapped from space by satellites good enough to read a license plate. In that you are right.
@sztallone415
@sztallone415 4 жыл бұрын
and then they skinned them and took them back as trophies. ancient people didn't fuck around, i think we can all agree on that.
@agora5230
@agora5230 Жыл бұрын
This documentary is wonderful, thank you so much for all your effort
@MerkhVision
@MerkhVision 4 жыл бұрын
I had previously read that same story of Hanno’s journey down the coast of Africa and found it very interesting and a little bizarre, but had forgotten the author and his civilization, besides thinking it somewhat Greco-Roman-ish (altar to Neptune, Greek-sounding place names) but I realize those are probably due to whoever translated the abridged version and I’ll never make the mistake of overlooking Carthage again.
@gfresh513
@gfresh513 4 жыл бұрын
Really interesting! Big thank you for making this video!
@miguelmontenegro3520
@miguelmontenegro3520 4 жыл бұрын
Hanno: Just... one... more... mile... But seriously, I wonder If George Martin based Corlys Velaryon on Hanno or that Chinese captain..
@reinhardtscheepers6317
@reinhardtscheepers6317 4 жыл бұрын
Miguel Montenegro I thought the exact same while watching the video. Maybe GRR made Corliss the archetypal representation of all the great explorers from antiquity to late medieval times.
@ineshvaladolenc6559
@ineshvaladolenc6559 3 жыл бұрын
Zheng He is the name you're looking for. But yes, Hanno, Zheng He, Columbus, Magellan, Cook, and many more that came before or after them. These are just some of the more known explorers that could all be represented by Corlys Velaryon.
@mingelcoac
@mingelcoac 4 жыл бұрын
The details on the journey to the western coast if Africa are mind-blowing. What an incredible adventure. It is fascinating to hear about what peoples thought upon discovering thing we are very familiar with now. Great video, thanks you for your work!
@200131240
@200131240 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine seeing a gorilla and not having any idea what it is. “Why is this hairy person biting me?!”
@billparker244
@billparker244 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe something's lost in translation and they WERE people.
@nvmtt
@nvmtt 4 жыл бұрын
@@billparker244 bruh.........that means they flayed people...........
@JimmyMcGillsg
@JimmyMcGillsg 4 жыл бұрын
Actual gorillas don't defend them selfs with stones people do
@billparker244
@billparker244 4 жыл бұрын
@@nvmtt Yeah, it sounds terrible, but I've heard of other people getting flayed in antiquity too. The more "civilized" people back then would dehumanize what they would consider lesser civilized humans. The Romans for example looked down their snobby noses at the Celts. There was also no such thing as the UN like we have today for shaming countries that violate human rights. Although, it's currently broken when it comes to China lol I'm not saying I 100% believe it, but it's interesting to ponder.
@ياالله-ج9م
@ياالله-ج9م 4 жыл бұрын
@@billparker244 The Phoenicians were cowards and the army of Carthage were Berbers
@artkoenig9434
@artkoenig9434 4 жыл бұрын
This was fascinating! Thank you!
@pabloamadomontero664
@pabloamadomontero664 4 жыл бұрын
I noticed that you used a geographical maps with the ancient coastline. For example there is a gulf in the SW of Spain where now is the Doñana national park. Congrats!
@manuscriptsdontburn
@manuscriptsdontburn 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for all the videos about Carthage!
@AlphaCrucis
@AlphaCrucis 4 жыл бұрын
This is wonderful! I was wondering about early Mediterranean dwellers going off to explore beyond the pillars. So many questions! How long did Hanno's expedition take? Were there further expeditions that followed? What was the fate of all of the colonies they established?
@Shpongle64
@Shpongle64 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Invicta, I really like these "How they did it." I just watched the growing up as a child in rome.
@twitchlite398
@twitchlite398 4 жыл бұрын
Come on Herodotus i'm from the famous moroccan atlas mountains and i eat living things and i dream
@largavidaalosdodosn6931
@largavidaalosdodosn6931 4 жыл бұрын
Are you the Chinese guy whom eat things?
@twitchlite398
@twitchlite398 4 жыл бұрын
@@largavidaalosdodosn6931 Dude what are you talking about, I'm a proud mediterenean berber from the western side of north africa aka Moorish or Moroccan, what's china had to do with me?? lol, Herodotus said that the inhabitans of the atlas mountains don't eat living thing meaning they only eat plants, so i said that we do eat living things of course not when they are alive like you said lol
@twitchlite398
@twitchlite398 4 жыл бұрын
@@largavidaalosdodosn6931 I'm from the country that colonized for 800 years the country that colonized you lol
@largavidaalosdodosn6931
@largavidaalosdodosn6931 4 жыл бұрын
@@twitchlite398 dude was a joke, you're taking this too much serious 🤦🏿‍♂️ facebook.com/RizwanUllahOfficial001/videos/217797065948133/
@AleronWolf
@AleronWolf 4 жыл бұрын
Are you sure you dream? Nobody else can see your dreams, so how can we know? All Europians and North Africans have one connected consciousness, so we can see each others dreams, but not Moroccan. You see, everything is scientific. Big brain.
@guldorak
@guldorak 4 жыл бұрын
This was EXCELLENT! Thank you
@mamboking0134
@mamboking0134 4 жыл бұрын
It's so troll to bring up the northern expedition than find out it's classified, lol. Now I'm more curious than ever...
@kirschakos
@kirschakos 4 жыл бұрын
This was mind-blowing! Awesome stuff really! If you have more data of ancient explorations please make a video about it!
@andrewdock7288
@andrewdock7288 4 жыл бұрын
What happened to the cities they created after Carthage fall because the Romans never went down that far on the Atlantic cost? Did they survive and if so what became of them?
@lorefort
@lorefort 4 жыл бұрын
This was brilliant to watch, it would have been such an incredible time to part of.
@doubledouble4g379
@doubledouble4g379 4 жыл бұрын
I just woke-up with a horrible realization - I forgot to like this video!
@jamesporter628
@jamesporter628 4 жыл бұрын
Really loved this. I would love more expeditions. Infact this would make a great KZbin channel by itself
@Luredreier
@Luredreier 4 жыл бұрын
There's rock art in the nordic countries that suggests that a mediterranean civilization came as far north as at least the area around Southern Norway and Sweden and Denmark. Basically, whoever carved them must have seen such ships themselves at some point with their own eyes. That *could* be the expedition from Carthage...
@abbba2007
@abbba2007 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for sharing, this one was absolutely astonishing to watch.
@DavidSaintloth
@DavidSaintloth 4 жыл бұрын
Why haven't we seen movies of Hanno's adventures! There needs to be material for dozens in the Carthaginians contributions to the ancient and modern world.
@collintrytsman3353
@collintrytsman3353 4 жыл бұрын
great to see rarely the credited efforts of these masterful sailors commented on, many more please
@EchoPandaGaming
@EchoPandaGaming 4 жыл бұрын
If I had a nickel for every time Magellan was mentioned in this video, i would have one more than expected.
@JesusRocksTryPrayin
@JesusRocksTryPrayin 4 жыл бұрын
this video was perfect. i feel less troubled and learned something in the process
@gabrielinostroza4989
@gabrielinostroza4989 4 жыл бұрын
It's a Good day, For going to sea Hanno the navigator said to me
@gabrielinostroza4989
@gabrielinostroza4989 4 жыл бұрын
@Il Bugiardo dell'Umbria it's because it's a song by Al Stewart, a very catchy one kzbin.info/www/bejne/aKS8en2vrpqLZ5Y
@adamwelch4336
@adamwelch4336 4 жыл бұрын
I love your diagrams and cartoons! Your history is always on par!
@trla6505
@trla6505 4 жыл бұрын
The gorilla thing made me realice that humans will not see elves or dwarve like diferent races rather more like "humans with pointy ears" and small humans
@MDD77777
@MDD77777 3 жыл бұрын
Making it to Guinea Coast seems very optimistic when it took 15th century people decades of naval instrument innovation, new sailing techniques and new types of vessels for it to be achieved.
@cyrilchui2811
@cyrilchui2811 4 жыл бұрын
At around 100BC, in a Trieme, how far can you go with sea shore out of sight? Could anyone go straight from Cathage to Marseilles without stopping at Sicily etc.? 24 hour without land was probably called exploration.
@loecorristo555
@loecorristo555 4 жыл бұрын
Anything related to Carthage, im here to watch :)
@hannibalbarca8411
@hannibalbarca8411 4 жыл бұрын
so underrated unfortunately
@avinfor
@avinfor 4 жыл бұрын
When encountered for the first time by ancient explorers, apes where initially mistaken for people. Which is rather telling.
@MrTotalAhole
@MrTotalAhole 4 жыл бұрын
Never knew this thank you. I wish you could have covered just briefly, at the end, the places hypothesized that they stopped at as compared to the modern locations.
@angryyoungman66
@angryyoungman66 4 жыл бұрын
So Spain ,Portugal ,Morocco were the countries in edge of the world back then .
@sergior.
@sergior. 4 жыл бұрын
Non plus ultra
@angryyoungman66
@angryyoungman66 4 жыл бұрын
@ruben champollion I thought that was the vikings
@maicrowsoft8867
@maicrowsoft8867 4 жыл бұрын
Hanno's expedition should become a film!
@nyar2352
@nyar2352 4 жыл бұрын
As a cuneiformist and historian of Mesopotamia I always cringe when I hear the name Herodotus. That man wrote speculative fiction about foreign lands, spicing it up for the audience at home - so I really appreciate it that you are taking a stab at this idol!
@Slayer119988
@Slayer119988 4 жыл бұрын
Not all of it is so rubbish - just strangely described. “Hole dwelling people who made bat shrieks” could be an uncivilized tribe that made dugouts and did animals calls/war cries and they do. “Men who don’t eat or dream” is probably just monks who fast (maybe often, maybe only during day, maybe certain weeks) and don’t dream (mediation, natural medical remedy for deeper sleep?). Many accounts were taken from other people, so yes he’s not accurate and likely embellished some stories, but there’s truth to some weird bits.
@Slayer119988
@Slayer119988 4 жыл бұрын
Eᑎᗩᔕ Not even entirely accurate and you’re telling me this why??
@immortaljanus
@immortaljanus 4 жыл бұрын
I love that the Carthaginians saw gorillas as another, more primitive type of people. It makes perfect sense though. Back then, anyone who didn't speak your language was considered as not-entirely-human. Human psychology was oriented around family/kin/tribe for a long time. This is why people could commit acts of utter barbarity to one another -- they didn't view each other as an equal and could not sympathize. Only in the last few hundred years, humans have learned to give another human being an inherent value just for being human and to generate empathy. Makes you appreciate those ancient explorers even more...
@арефнар
@арефнар 4 жыл бұрын
When you're so good at doing it that even ancient aliens theorists just sit and buy your goods.))
@qigongkylar944
@qigongkylar944 4 жыл бұрын
Channels growing quick bro. Congrats.
@Angelimir
@Angelimir 4 жыл бұрын
As the British Isles were one of the primary source of tin in Europe since the early bronze age, so Himilco was right to search for certain islands of tin :)
@SquirrelGrrl
@SquirrelGrrl 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic! What an amazing life to live.
@PrincessTS01
@PrincessTS01 4 жыл бұрын
are there colonies of Carthage that have survived in population?
@DarkValorWolf
@DarkValorWolf 4 жыл бұрын
I had a test about antiquity yesterday and Carthago was a prime subject, if only this video has been released a day or 2 sooner haha
@sushanalone
@sushanalone 4 жыл бұрын
I feel sad for the two poor Gorilli women.
@kanyekubrick5391
@kanyekubrick5391 4 жыл бұрын
Crazy. Literally heard of these two today in the History of Ancient Greece podcast EP 29
@CatastrophicDisease
@CatastrophicDisease 4 жыл бұрын
Can we talk about the fact that they skinned gorillas - even worse, they skinned gorillas even despite thinking that they were skinning humans? That's quite grimy.
@teamcastro9187
@teamcastro9187 3 жыл бұрын
Everyone in the mediterranean sacrificed children for religious purposes so yeah it’s already metal
@christophersnedeker2065
@christophersnedeker2065 3 жыл бұрын
@@teamcastro9187 not everyone but Carthage did
@tmamba1
@tmamba1 4 жыл бұрын
The drawing from 14:08 depicts a royal procession in the Benin empire (in modern day Nigeria). 15:09 depicts art of Shaka Zulu from the Zulu kingdom in South Africa and the last picture also depicts southern African people in case anyone was wondering. Also none of these drawings are even contemporary with the 6th century B.C Great video but these drawings were oddly out of place for this topic.
@onsholo
@onsholo Жыл бұрын
Thinking about Carthage makes me break out in tears
@ISawABear
@ISawABear 4 жыл бұрын
well if we're talking about explorers i think Pytheas needs a mention
@dannybrown2099
@dannybrown2099 3 жыл бұрын
Is that the Massilian who discovered the Arctic circle?
@ISawABear
@ISawABear 3 жыл бұрын
@@dannybrown2099 yes!
@dansmith4077
@dansmith4077 9 ай бұрын
Excellent video
@Blalack77
@Blalack77 4 жыл бұрын
That's crazy they thought/considered the gorillas to be "people"... That kind of makes my mind race.
@johncross5339
@johncross5339 4 жыл бұрын
The images for this video are wonderful!
@albertobarbosa9437
@albertobarbosa9437 4 жыл бұрын
A small correction, it's Vasco da Gama, not de Gama
@arzentvm
@arzentvm 4 жыл бұрын
just a single letter
@alexandrejosedacostaneto381
@alexandrejosedacostaneto381 4 жыл бұрын
@@arzentvm It means completely different things in Portuguese
@skizzik121
@skizzik121 4 жыл бұрын
@@arzentvm I tend to agree with small errors but this single letter is pretty important lol.
@InvictaHistory
@InvictaHistory 4 жыл бұрын
oh wow I totally overlooked that thanks
@casparvoncampenhausen5249
@casparvoncampenhausen5249 4 жыл бұрын
@@arzentvm That's why he said "small correction"
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