The Bronze Age Collapse (approximately 1200 B.C.E.)

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Historia Civilis

Historia Civilis

4 жыл бұрын

Just casually thinkin bout the end of the world. No, no reason, why?
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Eric H. Cline, "1177 B.C.: The Year Civilization Collapsed" | amzn.to/2ClWgpO
Robert Drews, "The End of the Bronze Age: Changes in Warfare and the Catastrophe ca. 1200 B.C." | amzn.to/2CkJ7NC
Paul Kriwaczek, "Babylon: Mesopotamia and the Birth of Civilization" | amzn.to/2Wra8G4
Oliver Dickinson, "The Aegean From Bronze Age to Iron Age: Continuity and Change Between the Twelfth and Eighth Centuries B.C." | amzn.to/3h8ar0r
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@ThePointlessBox_
@ThePointlessBox_ Жыл бұрын
>''History is written by the victors'' >be sea peoples >arrive and cause the fall of the bronze age >dont write anything down >leave
@dan5974
@dan5974 Жыл бұрын
Sea peoples: “there are no pictures in these written records!”
@Dos_Caffeine
@Dos_Caffeine 4 ай бұрын
Early civilization mad lads smh
@ifyourmarriedyourasimpanda7440
@ifyourmarriedyourasimpanda7440 3 ай бұрын
History is written by literate people lol
@robertmiles1603
@robertmiles1603 2 ай бұрын
>refuse to elaborate
@rvhiii76
@rvhiii76 2 ай бұрын
Good point! Perhaps the "sea peoples" were not invaders: but refugees. The shear amount of extra mouths to feed...was the straw that caused the chariot to collapse!? This would of course result in more migration and more collapse.
@bmar2513
@bmar2513 4 жыл бұрын
I am now ending all messages with "May you know it." May you know it.
@Prasutas
@Prasutas 4 жыл бұрын
i love you.
@fionafiona1146
@fionafiona1146 4 жыл бұрын
Ceterum autem censeo Carthaginem esse delendam
@admontblanc
@admontblanc 4 жыл бұрын
start all of them with: "Carthago delenda est"
@zakattack8624
@zakattack8624 4 жыл бұрын
@@fionafiona1146 Let us all be Cato the Elder.
@paleposter
@paleposter 4 жыл бұрын
I may know it
@Svorkar
@Svorkar 9 ай бұрын
A lot of people have pointed out that it is unlikely that a composite bow could shoot through 3 inches of metal but I didn't see anyone dig into the sources so I'll comment on what I've found. I'm guessing that particular part of the video was sources from "The end of the Bronze Age : changes in warfare and the catastrophe ca. 1200 B.C." (mentioned in description, I found a copy on Internet archive) pg. 120-121. The exact passage reads as follows: "The pharaohs themselves took pride in their skill as chariot archers. Amenhotep II boasted of the rapidity, range, and accuracy of his shooting, claiming that from a speeding chariot he had hit four targets, set thirty-four feet apart with such force that the arrows went clean through each target's three inches of copper." This passage is apparently from a stele (Ancient Near Eastern Texts (ANET) pg. 244), and the thickness given in this translation is "of one palm in their thickness", which the annotation says is "a litde [little?] less than 3 inches". Regardless, it seems that this is a boast from a specific pharaoh, rather than some sort of historical fact or mixing up units, so probably not an accurate account of a bronze age era's composite bow's potential.
@samuelbudai4979
@samuelbudai4979 5 ай бұрын
Interesting... Thank you!
@Laucron
@Laucron 5 ай бұрын
The real MvP
@iMajoraGaming
@iMajoraGaming 3 ай бұрын
Wallace MacLeod's Egyptian Bows in New York offers more information.
@iMajoraGaming
@iMajoraGaming 3 ай бұрын
To elaborate, they found one of the bows buried with a prince, which makes it, to me, seem like a closed-case. I see little reason why they wouldn't be able to verify that, or why they didn't cast aspersions on its capabilities, given that they found it and it was verifiable that it was the exact bow Egyptian sources had spoken about. A modern bow, can penetrate sheet-metal steel, and it can do it easily. Composite bows were an absolute gamechanger. They were unrivaled. They were the dreadnought of bows. I don't find it a stretch that it could shoot through some copper ingots. It *certainly* could shoot through armour, and I don't think there were tin-men covered in 3 inches of armour, which is a naval vessel level of armour, during the Bronze Age. So I figure it really doesn't matter if it's a boast, they could do exactly what was needed, and with proficiency.
@Svorkar
@Svorkar 3 ай бұрын
@@iMajoraGaming Thanks for the info (for anyone looking its McLeod, W. E. (1962). Egyptian Composite Bows in New York. American Journal of Archaeology, 66(1), 13. doi:10.2307/501476, I found it on sci-hub). The estimate they give is that it could penetrate a metal (brass) plate 0.002 to 0.003 m thick from a distance of 30-40 m.
@IndorilTheGreat
@IndorilTheGreat Жыл бұрын
"Human civilization did an oopsie" is the perfect summary for a lot of human history, to be honest.
@Demonslayer20111
@Demonslayer20111 Жыл бұрын
Well in this case their only real mistake was an over reliance on chariots in their military. Everything else, assuming this theory is correct, was outside their control.
@karlscher5170
@karlscher5170 11 ай бұрын
IAmFourteenAndThisIsDeep
@pixpusha
@pixpusha 7 ай бұрын
I wish we would stop doing them.
@iananderson3799
@iananderson3799 6 ай бұрын
....and a perfect summary of the dumbing down of history teaching.
@kryts27
@kryts27 Ай бұрын
It took a dump and the strink caused everyone to leave
@marsoz_
@marsoz_ 4 жыл бұрын
1200BCE: Sea people make me anxious 2020CE: Seeing people makes me anxious
@chezkelhui1010
@chezkelhui1010 4 жыл бұрын
Severely underrated
@-Zevin-
@-Zevin- 4 жыл бұрын
2050CE: Rising sea making people anxious
@SIStefanov
@SIStefanov 4 жыл бұрын
Lampedusa, Italy 2020 See people still make me anxious
@lc9245
@lc9245 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder if we were to collapse from this not quite pandemic, combine with instability of the financial system and tension between major economies, would historian call our period the Plastic Age collapse? The Chinese Collapse? The Epidemic Collapse? The 2nd Pax Americana Collapse? The Western Civilisation Collapse? I wouldn't imagine if I were a Hittite or Mycenaean, I would have thought of the destruction of my world to be called "Bronze Age".
@SIStefanov
@SIStefanov 4 жыл бұрын
@@lc9245 nervous laughter intensifies
@procionemannaro2030
@procionemannaro2030 4 жыл бұрын
"we need to talk about bronze age warfare" * battle music starts *
@brunopereira6789
@brunopereira6789 4 жыл бұрын
Age of Mythology battle theme immediately comes to mind
@jesseberg3271
@jesseberg3271 4 жыл бұрын
I was listening to a Wendover Productions video the other day (he covers logistics and transport) and suddenly the music transitioned and I thought, "The battle of Munda?"
@elbmw
@elbmw Жыл бұрын
Good factual presentation, well done. Just to explain something, the King of Ugarit referred to the King of Cyprus (Alashiya) as "Father" which means he was considered less than equal and the King of Ugarit had to prostrate himself in front of superior Kings, such as Cyprus and Egypt. In contrast, the Kings of Cyprus referred to the Kings of Egypt as 'brother', which meant they were equals and did not need to prostrate themselves nor pay tribute.
@xxmattopsxx3931
@xxmattopsxx3931 3 ай бұрын
So Kinda like calling a priest father/pater? Edit: Linguisticly not Culturally. Just genuinely curious.
@vorynrosethorn903
@vorynrosethorn903 2 ай бұрын
Ancient societies were patriarchal, and in that is the origin of their political and social systems. Clan and family systems were applied to the conception of what states were and how they should operate.
@elbmw
@elbmw 2 ай бұрын
​@@vorynrosethorn903 What you suggest is quite correct as well as the socio-economic system, local and foreign resources, language, farming (from the Neolithic onwards), the weather and the environment in general that played a huge part in the cultural development of a society. However, there's no getting away from the fact that kings (and queens) imposed themselves on a culture to varying degrees. There was of course the fear of invasion from outside as well as usurpation from within.
@michaeleldridge5640
@michaeleldridge5640 2 ай бұрын
i wonder if that is the original introduction as god in the bible. they call god lord or father alot. is this possible to the king of egypt that allowed the jews to settle in isreal?
@elbmw
@elbmw Ай бұрын
@@michaeleldridge5640 "The Jews" were not 'jewish' at that time. According to Manetho, the Hyksos came out of the East with all and sundry and entered the Pharaohs palace and took over. When they were eventually deposed several centuries later, the ones that lived in their capital called Avaris, barricaded themselves in and were eventually led out by an Egyptian priest that believed in monotheism. Many believe that this equates to the exodus in the bible.
@johnjdevlin2610
@johnjdevlin2610 Жыл бұрын
Clear and concise yet thorough examination of one of history's most troubling ages. Excellent narration and illustrations. Glad I discovered this channel. Well done!
@gauntlettcf5669
@gauntlettcf5669 3 жыл бұрын
When you're Sardinian, and the last time your people were relevant in any meaningful way was when they were part of the sea people coalition which kinda caused a halt in the advancing of human civilizations
@basedkaiser5352
@basedkaiser5352 3 жыл бұрын
They were based af
@blanetamez532
@blanetamez532 3 жыл бұрын
What about that time Sardinia sailors sailed with Spain and Venice to stop the Ottomans invasion of the Mediterranean and basically ended the ottomans as a naval power?
@krankarvolund7771
@krankarvolund7771 3 жыл бұрын
In the XIXth century, the major power in Italy was Sardinia, and it's them that pushed for Italy unification, so... not that irrelevant :p Well, of course it was actually Savoy, but still, it counts ^^
@jensjensen9035
@jensjensen9035 3 жыл бұрын
Feels bad man
@dillank3240
@dillank3240 3 жыл бұрын
Napoleon Bonaparte notwithstanding, I suppose that you are correct.
@112048112048
@112048112048 4 жыл бұрын
Greece. Hittites. Egypt. Cyprus. Long ago, the four empires lived together in harmony. Then, everything changed when the Sea Peoples attacked.
@12coudak000
@12coudak000 4 жыл бұрын
Hardly in harmony.
@s.b6615
@s.b6615 4 жыл бұрын
@@12coudak000 I don't think you got the reference pal
@simonrobillard
@simonrobillard 4 жыл бұрын
Only tin, the metal essential to all of our crafts, could stop them. But when the world needed it most, it vanished. A generation has passed and my brother and I have discovered the new Pharao, a bronzebender named Ramesses. And altough his chariots are great, he has a lot to learn before he's ready to defeat anyone. But I believe Ramesses can save the world... Pharao, the last bronzebender
@simonrobillard
@simonrobillard 4 жыл бұрын
@Lovecraft Nope... It's from the only western animation cartoon that is worth watching: Avatar, the last airbender
@breaden4381
@breaden4381 4 жыл бұрын
Lovecraft Is spongebob anime then?
@mktwatcher
@mktwatcher Жыл бұрын
Excellent comprehensive summary of the "Collapse of Bronze Age". You covered many more possible reasons other than just Sea Peoples even though they were probable the main reason. Your summary is the only one I've seen thus far that mentions the 5 decade flurry of earthquakes. Plus you did all of this with a very economical use of time. Thank you for your quality video.
@End-Result
@End-Result Жыл бұрын
I've watched loads of history content on youtube, this has to be one of the best summaries of the topic - and of ancient history in general - I've ever seen.
@MaSiPro
@MaSiPro 4 жыл бұрын
Me : *waiting for Augustus story* HC : ever heard about the bronze age? Me : well.. No but.. Go on
@evershumor1302
@evershumor1302 4 жыл бұрын
Cicero is dead, there is nothing more to find there for HC.
@ivanmaracic4207
@ivanmaracic4207 4 жыл бұрын
@iRue399 he allready named a playlist for octavian and it will be a pretty long one as well. dont worry friend
@dannybeads3672
@dannybeads3672 4 жыл бұрын
Same lol I’ve been checking daily for the next video... I mean we are right about to see the history civilis video/videos about Octavius and Antony vs Brutus and Cassius, and then Octavius and Agrippa vs a Pompey son, and then (GOT himself- Gaius Octavius Thurinus) Gaius Julius Caesar Octavianus and Agrippa vs Mark Antony and Cleopatra, and then Octavius become Augustus, the first citizen and all his great changes to Rome, and then somehow he outlives everyone he meant to give power to so he could sorta retire in peace, and he loved Livia too much to stop her evil scheme to kill the good people Augustus would have given power to, just so Livia could give power to friggin Tiberius... which set a terrible precedent and so she caused a few evil emperors... which also began the crazy awesome storyline of Roman rulers, some great and some horrible. If Augustus would have stopped her before she got started, then Augustus very well might have left a different system in place with good people and the senate with the power.. but Livia killed all the good people Augustus knew so all the power instead went to Tiberius like she planned and that’s how we got the history we have lol anyway I am so excited for these next few videos of Octavius - my doppelgänger.
@MisterTidster
@MisterTidster 4 жыл бұрын
Your videos never disappoint... thank you for producing them! Mostly just kicking in a couple thoughts that always bugged me about the Bronze Age Collapse - I always get a little agitated that I rarely get a glimpse into what was going on in the Black Sea region during that time. There’s plenty of archeological evidence that there was plenty of interaction and trade between the Black Sea region and the major powers of the time and they had seafaring technology to be active traders. Given migrations from Northern Europe to the Black Sea region during Roman times, it seems perfectly plausible for people living in that area to have been displaced by Northern Europeans and/or migrating tribes from the steppes who might have had their own environmental pressures due to climate change. I’m not a historian, but I am extremely curious about what was going on there at the time and what issues they might have been facing that would affect their interactions with their more civilized neighbors.
@thanesgames9685
@thanesgames9685 4 жыл бұрын
I really want to hear more about how, having destroyed their tyrant, they still failed to save their republic. No reason, why?
@shunyat9023
@shunyat9023 4 жыл бұрын
"Help is on the way." "jk" This sums up a lot of alliances in the past.
@marcospatricio8283
@marcospatricio8283 4 жыл бұрын
I mean, if they can't retaliate your backstabbing, why bother?
@drretard0343
@drretard0343 4 жыл бұрын
Poland:Hey Hey I've seen this before. Its a classical one
@user-jap84tlv24sq
@user-jap84tlv24sq 4 жыл бұрын
@@drretard0343 *Czechoslovakia
@TileBitan
@TileBitan 4 жыл бұрын
sums up league soloq
@MrMarsh263
@MrMarsh263 4 жыл бұрын
Even when they do send help Help has drowned in a river along the way
@trevorrogers95
@trevorrogers95 Жыл бұрын
Watching this in light of recent events doesn’t make me feel so warm and fuzzy inside.
@dp6003
@dp6003 Жыл бұрын
You are correct , but we still have a little time
@stevehurl298
@stevehurl298 Жыл бұрын
I recommend Eric Cline's 2021 book "1177 B.C." It has some updated research & analysis of the time period in question, and lays out a number of possible factors that influenced the "collapse."
@hyperion3145
@hyperion3145 4 жыл бұрын
"We have a drought, an earthquake and we still have to pay extra! What next? We get invaded?"- Some Bronze Age dude, probably
@skilllearning2256
@skilllearning2256 4 жыл бұрын
I thought u were talking about 2020 Oh wait......
@darrylbaber6329
@darrylbaber6329 24 күн бұрын
We may get to see the collapse of our own age. Just think in 5000 years some archaeologists will find my hause and other than a few silver coins the only thing that will survive that long will be a couple of arrowhead that l have. One I bought and another one that was made for me by a friend. The archaeologists will find that and the stones from the courthouse and determine that we were primitive people who were religious and had a temple
@medexmewada
@medexmewada 4 жыл бұрын
When Bill Wurtz said about tin: "idk, my dealer won't tell me where he gets it..." I didn't know he was being serious.
@volcryndarkstar
@volcryndarkstar 4 жыл бұрын
Everything he said in his history of the world video was in reference to some aspect if history, there were no throw-away lines.
@midshipman8654
@midshipman8654 4 жыл бұрын
Volcryn Darkstar i could think of one or two that might be arguable. but it’s generally good.
@goldenfiberwheat238
@goldenfiberwheat238 4 жыл бұрын
Volcryn Darkstar how about “this is stupid” and then black screens for 10 seconds
@matthewd7638
@matthewd7638 4 жыл бұрын
Cornwall apparently I just found out tin was rare but honestly I thought it was common
@TheSilael
@TheSilael 4 жыл бұрын
I read the title and said "now the Phoenicians can get down to business."
@zennor
@zennor 11 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for making wonderful, easy to understand and entertaining videos. I have been watching lots of them and will continue to do so. Awesome.
@rickmcdonald1557
@rickmcdonald1557 Жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this History Lesson and The Narrator was one of the best I have ever heard~! I was glad to be a new subscriber and look forward to watching all the other lessons.
@rageraptor7127
@rageraptor7127 3 жыл бұрын
“The sea peoples” sounds like such a vague and terrifying name for peoples that don’t even have much history to them.
@FwendlyMushwoom
@FwendlyMushwoom 3 жыл бұрын
It's exactly the kind of name you would give to people we know nothing about who came suddenly from the sea
@a.a.1245
@a.a.1245 3 жыл бұрын
They are also know as Sea Men
@thefilthycasual8863
@thefilthycasual8863 3 жыл бұрын
If northern Europe was in such bad shape and they became sea people early scandinavian vikings perhaps? I mean the drive for resources were similar as the later scandinavians wanted to spread out due to resource issues. However this situation seems more serious.
@orions2908
@orions2908 3 жыл бұрын
@@DudeWatIsThis you're making their case bruh they might not have been there from the very beginning, but 3000 years is a long ass time
@DudeWatIsThis
@DudeWatIsThis 3 жыл бұрын
@@orions2908 Yes of course. The Jews themselves were not native to that land either (they had settled it a few hundred years before). In general, Canaan/the Eastern Levant has always been one of those "in-between-empires" areas which get trampled and stomped on every few centuries.
@James_Wisniewski
@James_Wisniewski 4 жыл бұрын
The Bronze Age civilizations can't collapse until someone asks if it's okay with Tribune Aquila.
@tsepzz4742
@tsepzz4742 4 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@IrTehDrOddball
@IrTehDrOddball 4 жыл бұрын
Hahahahaha
@lamegliogioventu
@lamegliogioventu 4 жыл бұрын
ROFL
@danielmccully706
@danielmccully706 4 жыл бұрын
The sea people waited 1200 years to ask the tribune to sack a bunch of cities.
@csours
@csours 4 жыл бұрын
And for that reason, I'm out.
@davidcunningham2074
@davidcunningham2074 4 ай бұрын
the range of this channel is awesome.
@yosilevin
@yosilevin Жыл бұрын
I had to listen twice. A bow, and it doesn't matter which one, won't penetrate 3 inches of metal. Certainly not of bronze.
@MrEggsauce
@MrEggsauce 4 жыл бұрын
"....what brought them here is a question we'll get into later" *slams fist on table* Bibilus is involved in this somehow! I know it!
@merrittanimation7721
@merrittanimation7721 4 жыл бұрын
Not being born over 1000 years is no excuse! He must have found a way!
@randomcarbonaccumulation6478
@randomcarbonaccumulation6478 4 жыл бұрын
Domitius Ahenobarbus has travelled back in time to eradicate Caesar's ancestors, thousands of years before he was born!
@warlordofbritannia
@warlordofbritannia 4 жыл бұрын
Which leads to a causal loop/butterfly effect, where murdering Caesar’s ancestors only ensues Caesar is born and even more successful!
@Fangtorn
@Fangtorn 4 жыл бұрын
History memes are best memes.
@88fibonaccisequence
@88fibonaccisequence 4 жыл бұрын
I, Marcus Porcius Cato, being an incorruptible man of impeccable virtue, will now derail this entire discussion by writing an absurdly long, confusingly phrased comment for no reason other than that I derive _eudaimonia_ from the act of filibustering. I swear to the gods that if any of you were to block me, or if the noble Historia Civilis should deem it wise to remove my comment, I would commit glorious suicide (twice) in an unreasonably painful and gruesome manner.
@thomaswalsh4552
@thomaswalsh4552 4 жыл бұрын
“Cyprus in Cyprus” A history teacher AND a geography teacher
@user-qm2wl9ry9n
@user-qm2wl9ry9n 5 ай бұрын
This was a very clear explanation of a hugely important historical event I did not know about , until I watched a very good and long video on the subject , about two years ago .
@NorthernXY
@NorthernXY Жыл бұрын
I always thought, for the last decade or so, that the Sea Peoples were mercenaries hired by Greeks to attack Troy. Once they sacked the city the mercs wanted to go after another. I thought this explained why so many Sea Peoples were from all over the Mediterranean. Once they sacked Cyprus, which had the purest copper, trade died.
@andrasbeke3012
@andrasbeke3012 4 жыл бұрын
Easily the most shocking part of this video is how much bigger the Bronze Age world was than I thought. I think the regular belief is that it centers mostly around the Near East and Eastern Mediterranean. But now you're telling me they were trading from Britain to Afghanistan? That is just mind blowing.
@madshagen5849
@madshagen5849 4 жыл бұрын
Glass beads from Egypt have been found in Denmark (presumably paid for with amber)
@andrasbeke3012
@andrasbeke3012 4 жыл бұрын
@Alex Gully I mean, we've found evidence of complex civilization dating back to 10,000 b.c. with Göbekli Tepe, so I shouldn't be as surprised as I was. I guess I always thought of the Bronze Age as a few hotspots of cilivization surrounded by untamed wilderness. Looks like that wasn't the case.
@BeastinlosersHD
@BeastinlosersHD 4 жыл бұрын
@Alex Gully Sounds like the same thing that happened after the fall of the Roman empire. People started loving inside old stadiums fallout style because no one played sports anymore and places needed walls.
@MrAaaaazzzzz00009999
@MrAaaaazzzzz00009999 4 жыл бұрын
@@andrasbeke3012 gobekli tepe is not evidence of complex civilization. its evidence that religion had a much more important role in developing civilization as these megaliths presumed to be places of congregations may have been the seeds of fully fledged settlements.
@hedgehog3180
@hedgehog3180 4 жыл бұрын
It's an example of the limitations of history, history by definition is about the times and areas we have written sources from but people settled down and started building complex societies long before writing was invented or spread to them. This has for a lot of the history of history left us in the dark about what life in those areas and times was like but modern archeology is helping to uncover a lot of this and fill in our gaps, still it's not quite the same as written sources and it's just a lot easier to imagine what a place was like when we actually have the words written by those people. But yeah global trade is actually a lot older than you might think and areas outside of what we tend to think of as the "civilized world" were actually a lot more like that world than we imagine. For example a few thousand years after the Bronze Age you might think that beyond the borders of the Roman Empire were just endless forests with small villages and people walking around with helmets that had horns on them but actually it would be more or less impossible to tell these areas apart from the Roman Empire as they looked very similar. The differences between these areas was more like the difference between the the current superpowers like the US and China and their smaller allied states in Europe, Africa and Asia. But if your only source for learning about our world was Hollywood you might think that everywhere outside of the US was backwards and untamed and that's basically the situation we're in when trying to learn about the past.
@avalle4493
@avalle4493 3 жыл бұрын
That final battle in the Nile was probably one of the most epic battles in history. An apocaliptic clash for survival of their world.
@drycleanernick7603
@drycleanernick7603 3 жыл бұрын
Right... I want a good idea of who these invaders were too
@yousefshahin2654
@yousefshahin2654 3 жыл бұрын
As an Egyptian, I am proud that we have such a glorious and great history
@avalle4493
@avalle4493 3 жыл бұрын
@@yousefshahin2654 Be proud ! Egypt history is amazing.
@yousefshahin2654
@yousefshahin2654 3 жыл бұрын
@@avalle4493 Thank you 😀😊
@yousefshahin2654
@yousefshahin2654 3 жыл бұрын
@Seaworth Look, it's kind of yes nad no at the same time. Traditions and society are completely different. But we still kind of embrace them, and we are proud of our ancestors.
@jeremyhorne5252
@jeremyhorne5252 Жыл бұрын
This is the first comprehensive explanation I have seen for the Bronze Age collapse and its relation to the Sea peoples. Thanks for sharing!
@Cyrath89
@Cyrath89 2 ай бұрын
Very informative video. Thank you!
@sw4ahl
@sw4ahl 4 жыл бұрын
I got Sea People Return in the December slot of my 2020 Apocalypse bingo card.
@Magplar
@Magplar 4 жыл бұрын
Lmaooo
@plebisMaximus
@plebisMaximus 4 жыл бұрын
I put all my eggs in the Jesus basket, so he better come first.
@gaiusjuliuscaesar2309
@gaiusjuliuscaesar2309 4 жыл бұрын
@@MagplarImposter
@Comando96
@Comando96 4 жыл бұрын
Funny I've got them pegged for October.
@justinokraski3796
@justinokraski3796 4 жыл бұрын
I've got Third Impact scheduled for December and Sea People in October
@larrybrennan1463
@larrybrennan1463 3 жыл бұрын
Just as a note: The Cyprus was so closely identified with copper that the metal derived its name from it. The Latin for copper is cuprum, shortened from an older word cyprium, meaning of Cyprus.
@omegacardboard5834
@omegacardboard5834 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, I believe also that the y to Greeks and Romans was more like an u sound at the time
@pintorpi333
@pintorpi333 2 жыл бұрын
@@omegacardboard5834; Don't know about Greek, but Latin (Roman) 'V' was the original 'U' before the 'U' letter was introduced in the 16th century. A dead giveaway is that the letter 'W', to this day, is still pronounced "double-u", and not "double-v".
@omegacardboard5834
@omegacardboard5834 2 жыл бұрын
@@pintorpi333 yes that it correct. But the Romans also adopted the Greek y for Greek names/ words they borrowed from Greek. It’s not quite the same V/u sound in Latin, it’s like a u but with tighter lips and you sort of lift them up a bit and it’s a bit more aspirated I believe
@aaronleverton4221
@aaronleverton4221 Жыл бұрын
@@pintorpi333 Depends on language. In French it's "doobla-veh". Double V. I think the more obvious pointer would be that in Greek Cyprus is Kypros. A hard K sound and not a soft S sound. Although some prominent etymologists say that's just some popular, lazy bs.
@QuiteWellAdjusted
@QuiteWellAdjusted Жыл бұрын
@@aaronleverton4221 well you can always look it up. There is no letter C in greek. There is kappa K and there is sigma S Cyprus is spelled Κύπρος and is pronounced Kupros or Kipros.
@4bangerkovaaks
@4bangerkovaaks Жыл бұрын
I love this content! Really informative.
@SinjoroMoseo
@SinjoroMoseo 2 ай бұрын
This video made me watch the entirety of your chronological order playlist, and now I wish there were more of your videos, now I'm looking forward for any future video you will make whatever the topic it will be
@Lighthammer18
@Lighthammer18 2 ай бұрын
Just be aware that his video on Work is not the best sourced. I dare say every other video is excellent, but that one is not so great.
@u.s.navy_pete4111
@u.s.navy_pete4111 2 жыл бұрын
A severe drought in the Mediterranean may also explain why Egypt was less affected and survived the Bronze Age Collapse as the only major power in the region. Egypt's agriculture is totally dependent on the yearly flooding of the Nile which is caused by heavy rainfalls in distant Ethiopia and therefore unaffected by changes in local climate systems.
@BenState
@BenState Жыл бұрын
climate is not local
@fenrirrising131
@fenrirrising131 Жыл бұрын
@@BenState "its raining outside my house so it must be raining in tehran and beijing too" U wot m8?
@DR-54
@DR-54 Жыл бұрын
@@BenState typically when one area is extremely hot and dry, another area is extremely wet and temperate. We see this especially with just our yearly climate patterns, like with the el niño/la niña events. Most especially significant, is that most the world is unaffected.
@dwightehowell8179
@dwightehowell8179 Жыл бұрын
@@BenState This planet is divided up into many climatic zones. You have heard of Artic, tundra, boral, temperate and tropical, right?
@mrbaab5932
@mrbaab5932 Жыл бұрын
He is correct. Nile water comes from Ethiopia and the Rift Valley of Africa, thousands of miles from Mediterranean sea.
@Phoenix_254
@Phoenix_254 4 жыл бұрын
"A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one."
@solarsl7942
@solarsl7942 4 жыл бұрын
Not as clumsy or random as a blaster...
@xii-e-04-chengmichaelgaret72
@xii-e-04-chengmichaelgaret72 4 жыл бұрын
"this does put a smile on my face"
@TheAustronaut03
@TheAustronaut03 4 жыл бұрын
I see Rainbow H, I click.
@Eamonshort1
@Eamonshort1 4 жыл бұрын
Goddamn Civ. You do all those vids on my favourite period in histiry that I know the most about and then to mix up the content then you do the period I know the most about relative to average person. Like i know more about the late republuc but its also so famous every average person knows a little about it but with the Late Bronze Age Collapse they cant name like 3 of the main powers from the end of the month .not a knock against them at all im saying it's a societal thing. I mean when i started grtting into it, 3 of the first 4 books i was recomended to read each had an explict separate section purely for promoting the argument that this was more significant historically than the fall of Rome and likely had more of an impacton modern socitu. Also he's always arguing that this event should simply be called "the dark age" and post Rome should be called "The Roman/Western European dark age" like he's real fucking invested in it. Anyway point is thanks for some reason deciding to pick you video topics based purely on what will make one random Sub in Australia Happiest I should have done it a while ago but you legit have a new patreon when i get next paid
@judebreheny3925
@judebreheny3925 4 жыл бұрын
Eamon isn’t the average person, he’s a step above.
@tomislavpetrov1179
@tomislavpetrov1179 Ай бұрын
Mycenaean Greece (1350 BC - 1200 BC), Hittite Empire with capital Hattusa on Kızılırmak River (1,355 km) (1650 BC - 1180 BC), New Kingdom of Egypt with capital Memphis on Nile River (6,650 km) (1213 BC - 1069 BC), Middle Assyrian Empire with capital Ashur on Tigris River (1,950 km) (1207 BC -912 BC), and Babylonia with the capital Babylon on the lower Euphrates River (3,596 km) (1894 BC-539 BC).
@microchiroptera4520
@microchiroptera4520 Жыл бұрын
Insane video, thanks
@DragonEmperorMycen
@DragonEmperorMycen 4 жыл бұрын
"Oopsie." I guess that's one way to describe a collapse of civilization so complete that we had to rediscover stuff like writing and so on.
@hotkulen2196
@hotkulen2196 4 жыл бұрын
Writing? Is that true?
@MBM1117727
@MBM1117727 3 жыл бұрын
@@hotkulen2196 I don't know if it's completely true, but I think during the time after the bronze age collapse there is a lack of any written sources from all the places mentioned in this video except Egypt, which I think is how the theory of the bronze age collapse initially began
@twojacksandanace3847
@twojacksandanace3847 3 жыл бұрын
@@hotkulen2196 During the bronze age collapse literacy went extinct in Greece and had to basically be reinvented over time.
@Daniel-dd1bn
@Daniel-dd1bn 3 жыл бұрын
Haha that annoyed me too.
@insertcognomen
@insertcognomen 3 жыл бұрын
it kinda makes sense. trade and abundant agriculture is what lets people specialize. If everyone isn't farming then they can take the time to write down history. Once civilization collapsed there is no one with free time to write things. Not saying writing went away...not that it didn't
@garrettfuhrman2549
@garrettfuhrman2549 4 жыл бұрын
9:24 “Not as clumsy or random as a regular bow” A more elegant weapon from a more civilized age then?
@Arashmickey
@Arashmickey 4 жыл бұрын
Before the dark times... before the Sea Peoples.
@TheRambunctious
@TheRambunctious 4 жыл бұрын
Hello there
@ericdickison7995
@ericdickison7995 4 жыл бұрын
Garrett Fuhrman ah, you beat me to it!!
@duckheadgaming
@duckheadgaming 4 жыл бұрын
@@Arashmickey Sea Peoples itself sounds scary af for me but that quote just made them even more terrifying.
@matthiasnagorski8411
@matthiasnagorski8411 Жыл бұрын
They used composite bows. Not as clumsy or as random as a blaster rifle. An elegant weapon. For a more civilized time.
@mouthofspaghetti7817
@mouthofspaghetti7817 Жыл бұрын
😆 🤣
@NickZoran
@NickZoran Жыл бұрын
Loved your video. Thanks!
@awesome24712
@awesome24712 4 жыл бұрын
When the king of Ugarit said that the invaders had 'seven ships' I think it was understood at the time that he meant more than seven. 'Seven and seven' is an idiom (meaning many) seen in the Epic of Gilgamesh, and it's possible that its meaning was persisted through time. Just as 'one' to us can mean 'a united people', seven probably isn't literal. Not to mention that I couldn't see seven ships as all that threatening, what with the navies these civilizations had.
@johnnysasakithethird1209
@johnnysasakithethird1209 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like 7 ships would've been a lot in 1200bc.
@celdur4635
@celdur4635 4 жыл бұрын
@@johnnysasakithethird1209 Actually 7 warships has been "a lot" since the XIX century forwards, because it can carry so many cannons.
@johnnysasakithethird1209
@johnnysasakithethird1209 4 жыл бұрын
I don't think they had cannons in 1200bc
@celdur4635
@celdur4635 4 жыл бұрын
@@johnnysasakithethird1209 Use your brain to analyze things that you are told. *Because they didn't have cannons, 7 ships was very little, you needed a lot of ships because fighting was done man to man
@Eric-ng2ed
@Eric-ng2ed 4 жыл бұрын
@@johnnysasakithethird1209 the ships were much smaller, 7 ships couldn't carry anything worth batting an eye at.
@saidtoshimaru1832
@saidtoshimaru1832 4 жыл бұрын
"Human civilzation did an oopsie". Now, that's worthy of a thesis.
@Jaml321
@Jaml321 4 жыл бұрын
The human civilization is the oopsie. The current state is a result of thousands of years of human stupidity and greed.
@katiaquirino6020
@katiaquirino6020 4 жыл бұрын
@@Jaml321 Why have human societies made stupid decisions? Why has greed been such a strong factor? You seem to radically reduce something so complex and interesting as humanity's development, to such a boring, overly simple conclusion, without even asking some very impirtant questions. If humans were naturally stupid, our cavemen ancestors would've all died from poor decisions. If humans were naturally greedy, our early ancestors wouldn't have shared food or shelter during hard times with those who need it, losing future allies either through their death or worsening relations. They'd be ostracised from their tribes, and have no one to turn to when they were in trouble. Humanity is not the oopsie; nothing is absolutely bad or good, even if they do approach one end or the other; a wrench can be used to build or to sabotage, power by itself is neutral, and humanity is very powerful; the difference, is that a wrench has no mind of its own, but humanity can choose to do bad or good. Please, do yourself a favor, leave this misanthropic pessimism behind, and ask questions, with the end goal of how to make sure humanity can do more good than harm. Giving up on something is sure to bring defeat, whatever the goal may be, and humans are all we got, so give ourselves a shot.
@_BirdOfGoodOmen
@_BirdOfGoodOmen 4 жыл бұрын
They didn't subscribe to Pewdiepie. Now look what happened
@Jaml321
@Jaml321 4 жыл бұрын
@@katiaquirino6020 Humans kill each other and destroy nature and the planet from the moment they took it over to make a quick buck. Its like we are shitting the bed we are sleeping in. We are a scourge on the planet and there is no doubt it would be better off the moment we die out from whatever stupid war or other contraption we are going to create that speeds up our demise. Humans pose only problems for the earths ecosystem, they are the oopsie of evolution.
@watchingvideosalot3960
@watchingvideosalot3960 4 жыл бұрын
@@Jaml321 @Jaml321 Ah yes, I sure am glad my corporate and stately overlords didn't sign an agreement designed to heal what damage we wrought on the planet. God forbid the stockholders lose their money. And don't get me started on the progress of ww3 so far! Look, humanity has its many faults, but the attempts at making the world a better place are not unfelt. Organizations like the Red Cross, Habitat for Humanity and the many USA organizations dedicated to preservation of nature would be impossible in the world you just described. And excuse my crassness, but people like you are a part of the collection of problems that plague us. You sound defeated by things you do not even understand. You sound as if you willfully remain ignorant in an attempt to appeal to blind pessimism. If humanity were to listen to people like you who condemn them to shame in spite of their great achievements, then we would lose all motivation to progress. We would be driven to such complete stagnation that we would seek to die in our own shit. You seem to want humanity to fall, to not do everything in its power to try and reverse the damage it sows. You are your own evil.
@timtravasos2742
@timtravasos2742 Жыл бұрын
Great analysis and explanation.
@drazenvalentin1348
@drazenvalentin1348 21 күн бұрын
Exelent video. Thank you.
@justinh6651
@justinh6651 3 жыл бұрын
It's sort of terrifying and amazing how we literally have our own "Lost civilization" mystery like you see in fantasy and sci fi games.
@DLimit
@DLimit 3 жыл бұрын
We have many, Atlantis being another.
@dayangmarikit6860
@dayangmarikit6860 3 жыл бұрын
Games are based on history.
@sebjornsprauten1406
@sebjornsprauten1406 3 жыл бұрын
In a sense, all tropes come from history, not the other way around :)
@jorenvanderark3567
@jorenvanderark3567 3 жыл бұрын
@@DLimit Actually no, Atlantis straight up never existed. It was little more than a blueprint for Plato to describe his Ideas.
@TVaz7777
@TVaz7777 3 жыл бұрын
@@jorenvanderark3567 wrong. The city most likely existed and they even have a location for it. But people exaggerated a lot about the city based on Plato's book.
@rotciv1492
@rotciv1492 4 жыл бұрын
How was the Bronze Age warfare: -Chariots. -Chariots. -Chariots. -People protecting chariots. Accurate as hell.
@Brahmdagh
@Brahmdagh 4 жыл бұрын
Even vedic traditions are always talking about chariots.
@DrRevane
@DrRevane 4 жыл бұрын
"Chariots Chariots! Cave here...Prime. Look in this next test I need you to go to Cyprus in the bronze age for a chariot...For Science!"
@JR-White
@JR-White 4 жыл бұрын
8:35
@lordulberthellblaze6509
@lordulberthellblaze6509 4 жыл бұрын
Even the Art of War by sun tzu mentions chariots
@Arashmickey
@Arashmickey 4 жыл бұрын
And composite bows. Not as clumsy or random as a regular bow, but an elegant weapon for a more civilized age... before the dark times, before the Sea Peoples.
@AncientStoriesVideos
@AncientStoriesVideos 25 күн бұрын
This video has inspired me to learn more about it. Keep up the great work!
@brixcosmo6849
@brixcosmo6849 Жыл бұрын
Great InfoVideo! Best Regards from Portugal! ❤🇵🇹
@billiondollardan
@billiondollardan 4 жыл бұрын
300 year long drought? Wow. Can you imagine every generation knowing hunger over and over again? It must have been a very low point in human history
@PRubin-rh4sr
@PRubin-rh4sr 4 жыл бұрын
yeah I imagined a Great Depression (I knew it was economic not agricultural) but for 300 years. Sounds like a bad time
@dr.sleaseball441
@dr.sleaseball441 4 жыл бұрын
imagine africa
@Starkiller3481
@Starkiller3481 4 жыл бұрын
Oof
@Riku-zv5dk
@Riku-zv5dk 4 жыл бұрын
From what we know, what followed this collapse was one of the darkest periods in human history fro centuries, we're limited in what we know because across most of the old world written languages died out almost completely. Almost every major city outside Egypt was gone and every remnant of the old empires eventually collapsed over the centuries, never even being close in scale to the pre-collapse civilizations. Edit: Even China's Shang Dynasty saw apparent decline in this time and a few centuries later (1000BC) were eventually overthrown by the Zhou dynasty.
@daveslyker4431
@daveslyker4431 4 жыл бұрын
Global warming man. Started 3000 years ago
@Taskandpurpose
@Taskandpurpose 3 жыл бұрын
I could watch history civilis all day every day and not get enough. this is the most addictive content love it.
@ChuckleTee
@ChuckleTee 3 жыл бұрын
Hey man! As a fellow vet I love your content
@Maazitung
@Maazitung 3 жыл бұрын
I personally prefer Invicta slightly over this channel but this is solid as well :)
@Alexanderrayman
@Alexanderrayman 3 жыл бұрын
That's more or less what I did when stumbled upon the channel 18 months ago. 😅
@sambarrett871
@sambarrett871 3 жыл бұрын
Have you heard of the younger dryus??
@injectilio
@injectilio 3 жыл бұрын
@@Maazitung Luckily there is room enough to LOVE both and yet still not have enough content.
@ryhol5417
@ryhol5417 Жыл бұрын
Such a great video!
@mysticproduce705
@mysticproduce705 Жыл бұрын
Good job. Thanks 🙏
@537monster
@537monster 3 жыл бұрын
It’s amazing to read these ancient letters and see a literal apocalypse be recorded, but still have no answer as to what the hell was causing it.
@mattjk5299
@mattjk5299 3 жыл бұрын
It's possible that even at the time, many may have disagreed as to the "true" causes of their crisis. Famine? Droughts? Earthquakes? Sea people? Bad politicians? Punishment from the gods? It might be difficult to see even the cause, let alone solutions, especially through the haze of fear, despair and anger which would likely have been present in discourse. That's a lot of speculation though.
@TheNord06
@TheNord06 2 жыл бұрын
Also because they were kinda similar to us, most people give too much of a credit to these nations. Famines were commonplace in anatolia back then, so a few crises at the same time can absolutely destroy hitites. Once the central authority gone, cities are easy picking for raiders of any kind.
@douglasparise3986
@douglasparise3986 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like today
@natestakely1478
@natestakely1478 2 жыл бұрын
cmon guy, you know, your living it.
@White_Recluse
@White_Recluse 2 жыл бұрын
To be fair information was very limited back then. The average person on the ground was obviously aware of bad things happening, but not exactly why.
@qnteban
@qnteban 4 жыл бұрын
me: alright Ceasar is dead, now we're moving on to the Roman Empire. HC: this is my time machine
@rodneylagrone7180
@rodneylagrone7180 4 жыл бұрын
I think he likes variety. It took him several years to complete the Ceaser playlist. He might get burned out if those are the only videos he worked on.
@qnteban
@qnteban 4 жыл бұрын
@@rodneylagrone7180 I mean I'm not complaining. All his videos are great
@rodneylagrone7180
@rodneylagrone7180 4 жыл бұрын
@@qnteban True. I was avoiding the "Can animals commit crimes", video. But after I went through all of his other videos I finally watched it and throughly enjoyed it aswell.
@Macbrother
@Macbrother 4 жыл бұрын
@@rodneylagrone7180 me too. The dude is tip top.
@a.h.s.3006
@a.h.s.3006 4 жыл бұрын
@@rodneylagrone7180 He had also been working on Macedon, Philip and Alexander series, I thought that now all the players he talked about in Ceasar are dead (Cicero, Kato, Ceasar), that his next video would be about Alexander. My best guess is that he is taking a time out from serial videos and making one offs until he finishes a better script for Alexander or Augustus. I think he is even thinking about moving a bit into the English Civil war. But I can see his style, he loves to build up the culture and system of the civilizations before moving on to the main series, if my hopes aren't too high, he could be preparing a post bronze age collapse series in the next two years or so.
@albertoortiz3574
@albertoortiz3574 Жыл бұрын
A great approach for a "non easy to resume" moment in man kind history history. Great job, thanks!!!!
@marshmelows
@marshmelows Күн бұрын
Amazing video, learned a lot, thanks|
@samiamrg7
@samiamrg7 3 жыл бұрын
With regard to environmental changes, that could again explain why Egypt survived. Agricultrue in Egypt is driven by the waters of the Nile, and the Nile is fed by far-flung lakes and tributaries in regions that may not have been as effected by an environmental change. Thus, Egypt could maintain enough agricultural output to survive even as it’s neighbors dried up.
@billheineman472
@billheineman472 2 жыл бұрын
yep, exactly Egypt Everything that led to the bronze age demise can be tied to there being a Grand Solar Minimum ... as well as a concurent 2000+/- conjunction of the gas giant planets. The climate changes and seismic up-ticks were relentless the "sea people" were. forced to migrate due to major drought that began in western Europe first ~ desperate people exasperated desperate events
@Warmaker01
@Warmaker01 2 жыл бұрын
Egypt suffered heavy droughts also during this period. The drought was believed to have been caused by the "Hekla 3 volcanic eruption" causing a "volcanic winter" in Ramesses III's reign. The disruption of sunlight was so bad that worldwide tree growth was stymied for 20 years. On top of all this, Ramesses III had to deal with lots of wars. Constant war; Dealing with the Sea Peoples. Draining of the treasury. Drought -> Famine -> Instability It left Egypt terribly weakened and divided. From what I understand, of the various Bronze Age major powers, 2 survived: Egypt and Assyria. The Assyrians had it real bad and they basically withdrew into only their home territory. However, Assyria recovered and carved a powerful empire in the wake of the Bronze Age collapse while Egypt never really did. It got to the point that the Assyrian Empire subjugated Egypt.
@vitriolicAmaranth
@vitriolicAmaranth 2 жыл бұрын
@@billheineman472 There are a lot of things I could correct here but I'll settle for saying you mean "exacerbated." "Exasperated" would only make sense the other way around (desperate events exasperated desperate people).
@Iannnus
@Iannnus 2 жыл бұрын
The aftermath of a volcano that blocks the sun is terifing such as in 536, or that time in 70k bc that humans almost went extinct due to one.
@failtolawl
@failtolawl Жыл бұрын
@@Warmaker01 of the various Bronze Age major powers in western asia* fixed that for you
@usersays8599
@usersays8599 3 жыл бұрын
History Channel in the 90s and 2000s: The Collapse of the Bronze Age and their ancient civilizations remains one of human civilizations' greatest mysteries History Channel today: "Aliens"
@dontchastop
@dontchastop 3 жыл бұрын
Ancient astronaut theorists say, yes.
@Alexanderrayman
@Alexanderrayman 3 жыл бұрын
Aliens ate my homework.
@BoleDaPole
@BoleDaPole 3 жыл бұрын
the aliens invaded northern Europe causing the mass migration and the heat was because the aliens needed a warmer Temperature to survive but then they ehree finally beat back but then time traveling scientists from the year 3031ish used thier time traveling machine to go back and clean up any trace of alien life.
@kevinshort3943
@kevinshort3943 3 жыл бұрын
What you meant to say was " I'm not saying it was aliens, but........". :)
@PierroCh5
@PierroCh5 3 жыл бұрын
I'm an Alien and I agree, we really outdid ourselves on this one 💫👽
@joshuagrahm3607
@joshuagrahm3607 2 ай бұрын
Time to rewatch this entire channel
@elijahbachrach6579
@elijahbachrach6579 Жыл бұрын
Describing the Stone Age as “oppressive” raises more questions than it answers, annoyingly. In what ways was it more oppressive than other ages?
@SuperCatacata
@SuperCatacata Жыл бұрын
This isn't a vid about the stone age.
@vorynrosethorn903
@vorynrosethorn903 2 ай бұрын
It didn't have cities so modern intellectuals are not big on it. Additionally it disproves the noble savage myth which is important to certain utopian ideologies. Beyond that most of these societies were fundamentally patriarchal, and tended to be led by priest-kings, based on the ancestor cults of the tribes (clan might be more accurate) they came from. However much of this was just as true of the bronze age, and much later. The old clan system was broken but the Church in western Europe in the middle ages, and patriarchal based government and civil structures as well as a divine hierarchy continued well into the enlightenment. They are effectively gone now, but will likely come back with a vengeance as they are disproportionate in communities who reproduce.
@fromthebackseat4865
@fromthebackseat4865 Ай бұрын
@@vorynrosethorn903lol. I love how confidently people spew their paranoid delusions. And just wrong ones at that. Tell me? What evidence do you have of “fundamentally patriarchal” tendencies in the Stone Age? If anything we have evidence for the opposite. That women held a lot of power in prehistorical communities as they were the ones who controlled reproduction.
@dominickdibart12
@dominickdibart12 4 жыл бұрын
I know I just watched a video explaining that the "sea people" likely came from areas in Italy and around the Mediterranean... But I can't get the image out of my head of Rameses defeating an unstoppable horde of Lovecraftian fish people in hand to hand combat for the glory of Egypt
@origami83
@origami83 4 жыл бұрын
I would love a movie of Rameses defeating a lovecraftian army of fish people!
@cageybee7221
@cageybee7221 4 жыл бұрын
i would watch the shit out of that movie
@dominickdibart12
@dominickdibart12 4 жыл бұрын
@@origami83 be better than 300 that's 4 sure
@origami83
@origami83 4 жыл бұрын
@@dominickdibart12 It totally would be! i mean, ancient egpyt and fish people! How could anything top that? :D
@discordthingy6796
@discordthingy6796 2 жыл бұрын
sort of like doom, but at the bottom of the ocean
@GabrielEddy
@GabrielEddy 4 жыл бұрын
“The peoples made a conspiracy in their islands. All at once, the lands were removed and scattered in the fray. No land could stand before their arms: from Hatti, Qode, Carchemish, Arzawa and Alashiya onward, being cut off at once. A camp was set up in Amurru. They desolated its people, and its land was like that which has never come into being. They were coming forward toward Egypt, the flame going before them. Their confederation was the Peleset, Tjeker, Shekelesh, Denyen and Weshesh, lands united. They laid their hands upon the land as far as the circuit of the earth, their hearts confident and trusting, ‘Our plans will succeed!’” -Pharaoh Ramesses III, 12th c. BCE
@legion999
@legion999 4 жыл бұрын
you watched the video too?
@leopruessner
@leopruessner 4 жыл бұрын
@@legion999 he actually just ripped off the full quote from the Sea Peoples wikipedia article, I can tell because he included "their confederation was the peleset, tejeker" etc, which is not included in the video. but if you look up "Peleset, Tjeker, Shekelesh, Denyen and Weshesh" on google the first result is the Sea Peoples wikipedia page.
@dylan__dog
@dylan__dog 4 жыл бұрын
"Shekelesh" OK so the sea peoples were Jewish
@dohnjoe4100
@dohnjoe4100 4 жыл бұрын
you can just feel the anger radiating from the full inscription.
@rasterbate87
@rasterbate87 4 жыл бұрын
We should remember that this inscription is hagiographic propaganda meant to aggrandize Ramesses III after his death. The more fearsome the enemy, the more glorious his victory.
@tg1982
@tg1982 Жыл бұрын
I had to rewatch this video, it is really an interesting topic.
@cauwama
@cauwama Жыл бұрын
The Bronze Jade
@boobtoob2507
@boobtoob2507 Жыл бұрын
The bombay
@eamartig
@eamartig 4 жыл бұрын
Everything changed when the sea people attacked...
@joshmosh4190
@joshmosh4190 4 жыл бұрын
Everything changed *then* the sea people attacked
@peternystrom921
@peternystrom921 4 жыл бұрын
Damn you SeeMen...
@korkhik6297
@korkhik6297 4 жыл бұрын
@V R thats not a woosh bruh
@AndrewJohnson-yp2zt
@AndrewJohnson-yp2zt 4 жыл бұрын
@V R buddy he corrected the quote there's no woosh here
@Alusnovalotus
@Alusnovalotus 4 жыл бұрын
Beat me to the punch
@angelomerte7006
@angelomerte7006 2 жыл бұрын
There's an important bit left unsaid: Rulers of the time relied on the favor of the gods. Famine, no rain, earthquakes, even sending an enemy are typical actions of an angry god. People turn against rulers that apparently make the gods angry and thus have lost legitimacy.
@goranpersson7726
@goranpersson7726 2 жыл бұрын
ye kinda feel like that aspect of it all would have been quite an important factor tbh, what I found funny though was him showin western and central europe as " northern europe"
@kingt0295
@kingt0295 2 жыл бұрын
@@goranpersson7726 well it’s northern in relation to the greeks and the other civilisations that were destroyed lol
@Koupip
@Koupip 2 жыл бұрын
well to be fair their countries got hit by famin, no rain, instability and invasion and the earth itself going "nah bruh" and shaking their building until they colapsed all at once, maybe they really did anger the gods lmao
@dreamer2260
@dreamer2260 Жыл бұрын
Yes. Like the Mandate of Heaven in China.
@arzhvr9259
@arzhvr9259 Жыл бұрын
That sort of Mandate of Heaven philosophy is not native to the near east or Europe.
@AlacrityTW
@AlacrityTW Жыл бұрын
Composite bow punching through 3" of metal? That is impossible.
@QWEStudios
@QWEStudios Жыл бұрын
“Not as clumsy or random as a bow” I see what you did there.
@TheSecondVersion
@TheSecondVersion 4 жыл бұрын
"Arrows could penetrate three INCHES of metal" What the hell were they using to shoot them, RAIL GUNS??
@ThatCamel104
@ThatCamel104 4 жыл бұрын
Well, aliens *did* build the Pyramids, after all. :^)
@Mitaka.Kotsuka
@Mitaka.Kotsuka 4 жыл бұрын
is not steel... not even Iron, is bronze.... and of course not the quality we made bronze nowadays... by today standars was pretty rubbish
@Doctor_Mantis
@Doctor_Mantis 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah the majority of claims about arrows effectiveness on armor are greatly exaggerated by modern historians. I'm pretty sure they're just using linear equations starting with a very thing material control to accomplish this. Either way these metrics are demonstrably wrong.
@calebr908
@calebr908 3 жыл бұрын
@@Doctor_Mantis what kind of armour would people need to have 76.2mm thick of armour lol.. they are a tank obviously.
@theashenfox
@theashenfox 3 жыл бұрын
I reckon this was supposed to be 3 millimeters or MAYBE 3 eighths of an inch, but even that would be quite a stretch. There is no fecking way, an arrow went through 3 inches of solid metal at room temperature. not even lead.
@smilodnfatalis55
@smilodnfatalis55 3 жыл бұрын
11:55 "Sire! The enemy can destroy our chariots! We're done for!" "How!? Do they have their own chariots? Elephants? The gods themselves on their side???" "No sire. They know how to R U N." "....Dear gods, we are doomed"
@hyperion3145
@hyperion3145 3 жыл бұрын
Back when running wasn't invented
@DonMeaker
@DonMeaker 3 жыл бұрын
The Zulus, with shields and assegai defeated the British at Isandlwana (with Martini Henry rifles 7 pounder field guns, and bayonets) with their ability to run (to the flanks and rear of the British).
@pavel9652
@pavel9652 3 жыл бұрын
Usually it is mobility versus fire power in the military. Spearmen and chariots are different class of unit, but I believe when armoured, trained spearmen in decent formation could beat the chariots.
@gavind351
@gavind351 3 жыл бұрын
@@pavel9652 I mean, you don't hear much about chariots going against a phalanx. So it's safe to say that.
@abitoftheuniverse2
@abitoftheuniverse2 11 ай бұрын
You're an epic teacher. Thanks. ❤
@Melker63
@Melker63 2 жыл бұрын
I just watched a 2+ hour documentary on this subject, but I think this 20+ minute clip explains it better and more to the point. The lengthy documentary was obsessed with "who dun it?", while this clip was more focused on system-level causes. Good job!
@mageovoid9145
@mageovoid9145 2 жыл бұрын
was it a BBC documentary?
@aaronleverton4221
@aaronleverton4221 Жыл бұрын
@@mageovoid9145 It was likely the channel History Time and the reason for focusing on whodunit is that we don't actually know and therefore exploring the possibilities of who, exactly, the Sea Peoples were and where they came from is useful for expanding our knowledge of history. That would be "knowing our own story".
@ahwabanmukherjee5065
@ahwabanmukherjee5065 Жыл бұрын
But I'm still very interested in the whodunnit because that would shed a lot of light on the expanse, nature and scale, and thereby, a verification of the environmental and socio-political disasters. Are there any genetic evidences of the sea people?
@hollylucianta6711
@hollylucianta6711 Жыл бұрын
@@ahwabanmukherjee5065 There's a little bit. Testing shows that in the very early Iron Age there was a large but brief influx of European blood in the heritage of the people of Ashkelon, which belonged to Egypt at the time. This would suggest a migration event in between the Bronze Age and Iron Age. But it's hard to be very certain.
@Xanctus
@Xanctus Жыл бұрын
ikr
@TheSecondVersion
@TheSecondVersion 4 жыл бұрын
13:37 - Egypt prevailed because Ramses could transform into a Titan
@robertjarman3703
@robertjarman3703 4 жыл бұрын
Oh boy have you not been keeping up to date with the manga if you think that Rameses was the biggest thing here. Wait until you see in the manga actual giants 50 meters tall, millions of them, marching out of the ocean with a 500 meter tall Eren walking skeleton leading it, stomping out entire cities
@MrAaaaazzzzz00009999
@MrAaaaazzzzz00009999 4 жыл бұрын
@@robertjarman3703 ok spoilers man
@ShinSuperSaiyajin
@ShinSuperSaiyajin 4 жыл бұрын
Egypt is apparently Paradis then LOL
@merrittanimation7721
@merrittanimation7721 4 жыл бұрын
Given other Bronze Age artwork throughout the region this seemed to be a common strategy.
@hazzmati
@hazzmati 4 жыл бұрын
@@MrAaaaazzzzz00009999 out of all the places I hoped to avoid Aot spoilers lol
@etiennenobel5028
@etiennenobel5028 Ай бұрын
Great stuff
@grahamfindlay5251
@grahamfindlay5251 9 күн бұрын
Thanks!
@networknomad5600
@networknomad5600 2 жыл бұрын
It's wild to think that the amount of human history we know is a drop in the bucket compared to the entirety of the unknown, lost history of human civilization.
@masseg6713
@masseg6713 Жыл бұрын
And the history we have is still mostly written as "great man" history instead of looking at systemic and socioeconomic dynamics. I feel like we are in a very exciting age of scholarly debate over how we view our history and I hope especially now with climate change and the coming collapse of old power dynamics we also focus and learn more about our own history with the environment and how it affected civilizations in the past.
@RandomVidsforthought
@RandomVidsforthought Жыл бұрын
@Akhand Bharat The bronze age collapse didn't affect human civilizations apparently to this ultranationalist
@RandomVidsforthought
@RandomVidsforthought Жыл бұрын
@Akhand Bharat You misunderstood his comment which meant a part of history was lost in these places Zindabad
@jonbongjovi1869
@jonbongjovi1869 Жыл бұрын
I disagree. we know EVERYTHING humans have done thruout history, because the HUman Being is a very consistent ROBOT. Violence? CHECK! War? CHECK! RACISM or Corruption? CHECK! plus environmental crises? CHECK!
@philipsalama8083
@philipsalama8083 Жыл бұрын
It reminds me of Xenephon's Anabasis, where the Ten Thousand Greeks find ancient ruined Mesopotamian cities that were older to them than Xenephon is to modern people.
@connarcomstock161
@connarcomstock161 3 жыл бұрын
"...a composite bow, not as clumsy and random as a regular bow..." Ah, an elegant weapon from a more civilized age.
@PandemoniumMeltDown
@PandemoniumMeltDown 3 жыл бұрын
Killing hasn't been as stylish and refined in Ages, wink
@terry7907
@terry7907 3 жыл бұрын
The Jedi Sea Peoples
@minoreror9961
@minoreror9961 3 жыл бұрын
Well, times have changed.
@s_for_short2400
@s_for_short2400 3 жыл бұрын
Im really curious in what way was a composite bow an improovement over a normal bow during the bronze age?
@alibouk227
@alibouk227 3 жыл бұрын
@@s_for_short2400 I believe the material was able to store more energy while being flexed back, making arrows being launched faster/stronger, it also was smaller and less cumbersome, but I haven't read about it in ages so I might be missing details.
@angelicaalmeida604
@angelicaalmeida604 Жыл бұрын
Great video!!
@ginnyhogan6386
@ginnyhogan6386 Жыл бұрын
Wonderful!
@lecygnenoir4313
@lecygnenoir4313 4 жыл бұрын
"They were runners." I need a Bronze Age zombie movie NOW DAMMIT.
@ezraclark7904
@ezraclark7904 4 жыл бұрын
Taking bronze in the 30 year dash
@goldenrebel25
@goldenrebel25 2 жыл бұрын
@Violet Mia shut up boy
@krazo4Christ
@krazo4Christ 3 жыл бұрын
Me: So what ended the Bronze Age? War? Famine? Cataclysm? Innumerable catastrophes? Historians: Yes.
@markgarin6355
@markgarin6355 3 жыл бұрын
No....iron
@Great_Olaf5
@Great_Olaf5 3 жыл бұрын
Too many moderate-to-severe problems hitting all at once.
@CarlosRios1
@CarlosRios1 3 жыл бұрын
It was actually war, famine, pestilence, and death
@markgarin6355
@markgarin6355 3 жыл бұрын
@@CarlosRios1 nope....the iron age....ha
@ThiagoSilveira1
@ThiagoSilveira1 3 жыл бұрын
@@Great_Olaf5 This can be put into perspective with our world today: global warming, income inequality, pandemic, migrations, rogue states. A lot of crisis a once.
@jenshappel2209
@jenshappel2209 Ай бұрын
Great video. Thx
@pvito8570
@pvito8570 15 күн бұрын
1. In southern Greece near Thebes, there is the Mycenaean citadel of Glas (= Γλας), dominating the dried-up lake of Kopaida. During the Mycenaean era, they built a 20 km long draining channel for the lake, turning it into arable land. On the acropolis were built a huge commercial and industrial complex of buildings (not housing) (some buildings are two-story, 70 m long) and a double palace on top of the hill. The citadel was fortified with a 2.5 km long walls, 3 meters thick. According to archaeological evidences, it was completely abandoned 50 years after it was erected without any fight, despite some evidence of fire.
@zanzabaarr
@zanzabaarr 4 жыл бұрын
"the chariots were handcrafted..." well they should have ordered up some cheep manufactured chariots from Asia or something
@avatarkeano
@avatarkeano 4 жыл бұрын
Lol
@jabloko992
@jabloko992 4 жыл бұрын
*cheap
@josephnarvaez9507
@josephnarvaez9507 3 жыл бұрын
I thought it's sheep manufactured chariots.
@Waffles9255
@Waffles9255 3 жыл бұрын
Buying isn’t “CHEAP”
@spicymilk7311
@spicymilk7311 3 жыл бұрын
Why are people so terrible at spelling words like “cheap” and “tough” now? I see people writing “cheep” and “tuff” now more than I did a few years ago.
@dragonmouse3985
@dragonmouse3985 3 жыл бұрын
They always ask, "where did the sea peoples come from?" I always ask, "Where did the sea peoples go?"
@Ilikeavocados123
@Ilikeavocados123 3 жыл бұрын
Prob were assimilated like vikings were or the greeks did later on ?
@GTAandApplechannel
@GTAandApplechannel 3 жыл бұрын
@@Ilikeavocados123 the Greek is still exist
@jewsco
@jewsco 3 жыл бұрын
Most scholars think they became the phoecians of the Bible who went on to found Carthage
@happyslapsgiving5421
@happyslapsgiving5421 3 жыл бұрын
If it hadn't been for the Sea Peoples, I'd have been married long time ago.
@krel7160
@krel7160 2 жыл бұрын
@@happyslapsgiving5421 where did you come from, where did you go? where did you come from sea foam jones?
@user-cx2bk6pm2f
@user-cx2bk6pm2f Жыл бұрын
Very good summary
@sofiajacobsson1861
@sofiajacobsson1861 Жыл бұрын
great video!
@VeilingSun
@VeilingSun 2 жыл бұрын
Another explanation for why the sea peoples were so effective against the chariots was maybe because the chariot's main advantage was that it was a morale busting weapon. Fighting someone you can hardly catch, but during the entire chase is needling you to death is very demoralizing. Most disorganized armies and raiders probably went home rather than press on. The sea people might not have done anything significantly different than the other raiders, the only difference might have only been their utter desperation. They pressed on against incredible casualties that would have convinced others in normal circumstances to go home simply because there was no home for these sea peoples to go back to. Where else could they go when the environmental disaster at the time meant that the only place with food was probably behind where ever the chariots were defending. They had chariots after all, they probably had food.
@SudrianTales
@SudrianTales 2 жыл бұрын
That's a terrifying irony if you're right, it may explain why some cities were spared or avoided the Sea Peoples. They didn't have chariots and thus the Sea People ignored them.
@hagamapama
@hagamapama 2 жыл бұрын
@@SudrianTales Or maybe simply those were the cities that had something to share with the tribes that came their way.
@C00kiesAplenty
@C00kiesAplenty 2 жыл бұрын
If they had chariots they definitely had food. The horses could be eaten by whoever survived the battle.
@speed65752
@speed65752 2 жыл бұрын
@@C00kiesAplenty Nothing goes wasted.
@ItsBrendo
@ItsBrendo 2 жыл бұрын
@@C00kiesAplenty Sea peoples are the French confirmed?
@johnvilyer4340
@johnvilyer4340 3 жыл бұрын
Chariots: I'm the result of hundreds of years of technological and military research, I terrify battlefields. Sea peoples: I'm fast as f*ck boi
@satriaputrapratama4703
@satriaputrapratama4703 3 жыл бұрын
Bruh you could switch them with Battleship and plane respectively, and it would still make sense haha
@Momusinterra
@Momusinterra 3 жыл бұрын
You: I'm not amusing.
@Nefylym
@Nefylym 3 жыл бұрын
LOL well put, thanks fer the laff
@HolyKhaaaaan
@HolyKhaaaaan 3 жыл бұрын
3000 years later: Germans: we have state of the art tank warfare Finland: *stuffs rag in a bottle of gas and lights it on fire* LIGHT EM UP!
@foxymetroid
@foxymetroid 3 жыл бұрын
@@HolyKhaaaaan Makes sense to replace Germans with Soviets, seeing as Finland allied with the former and fought the latter.
@CSGhostAnimation
@CSGhostAnimation Жыл бұрын
Now the Phoenicians can get down to business!
@annabaker8137
@annabaker8137 Жыл бұрын
The interesting thing about the Assyrian collapse was that a lot of modern scholars and a lot of ancient scholars surmise that partially the reason why they collapsed was because they were extraordinary cruel and barbaric even by ancient world standards and they were extraordinarily oppressive to the people around them and the ones that they controlled.
@elvastan
@elvastan 9 ай бұрын
I disagree with that, Assyria was a very powerful state, yes, but it wasn't "exceptionally cruel". Its evictions and movement of peoples were done with care in order to preserve the valuable artisans they needed. In fact, Assyria arguably emerged from the Bronze Age Collapse better than Egypt did.
@talk-supersix-seven6021
@talk-supersix-seven6021 5 ай бұрын
I still remember as a kid seeing the inscriptions of rebels being flayed alive in Assyria.
@sekroz896
@sekroz896 3 жыл бұрын
What is there to be learned from the collapse of all major bronze aged civilizations? Never skip leg day.
@orlaoto5794
@orlaoto5794 3 жыл бұрын
All except China.
@lcmiracle
@lcmiracle 3 жыл бұрын
@@orlaoto5794 What can I say? The sea people weren't exactly known for being long distance runners...
@Klanosek
@Klanosek 2 жыл бұрын
@@orlaoto5794 China was killing itself so many times it really doesn't matter
@kaustubhlunawat7827
@kaustubhlunawat7827 2 жыл бұрын
@@orlaoto5794 Umm Indian here.
@orlaoto5794
@orlaoto5794 2 жыл бұрын
@@kaustubhlunawat7827 Ah. Apologies.
@taylorhancock5834
@taylorhancock5834 4 жыл бұрын
“Chariots. Chariots chariots chariots.” I’m glad to see that you’re the real Historia Civilis and not one from another timeline
@csxfan_
@csxfan_ 4 жыл бұрын
But what if this is a an alternate Historia Civilis that just likes saying chariots a lot?
@thejimmydanly
@thejimmydanly 2 ай бұрын
It's upsetting to see so many historians trying to rewrite history to minimize the sea peoples. My uncle was killed by the sea peoples, but now everyone's trying to carry water for them.
@statelinesenthusiast7793
@statelinesenthusiast7793 Ай бұрын
😂
@harrietcanary2470
@harrietcanary2470 Ай бұрын
Both you and your uncle were born before the year before 1200BC?
@letssuperfuntime
@letssuperfuntime Ай бұрын
I sea what you did there
@thejimmydanly
@thejimmydanly Ай бұрын
@@harrietcanary2470 yes
@DomaScholes
@DomaScholes Жыл бұрын
What a great video, the bronze age collapse and the sea peoples were always a bit of a mystery for me.. Egyptian here :)
@nairamy8181
@nairamy8181 4 жыл бұрын
Glorious Egyptian bow, sinewed over a thousand times, pierce through three inches of bronze, filthy sea people go home - Original guy who wrote the source for that claim, probably
@WozWozEre
@WozWozEre 4 жыл бұрын
Three inches of bronze is total bullshit.
@FrikInCasualMode
@FrikInCasualMode 4 жыл бұрын
@@WozWozEre Yeah. It's a tank level armor. Totally useless for a human that needs to actually move.
@Praiokles
@Praiokles 4 жыл бұрын
There must be a mistake, no bow can punch through 3 inches of metal (I guess he means bronze)
@Ratchet4647
@Ratchet4647 4 жыл бұрын
Clearly untrue, unless it means that it penetrates 3 inches of flesh upon piercing through Bronze or Copper armor?
@Zmok
@Zmok 4 жыл бұрын
Egyptian bow can cut through tank armor. Egyptian officers used their herediary bows in Yom Kippur War with great effect.
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