How Cartier Failed Us.

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[@MarketingGuy]

I'm a bit disappointed that you rarely show a big picture of a watch while talking about it. The pictures in your ranking are far to small to enjoy them.

[@Jayfinnie]

I wish you showed more close ups of the watches when rating for us non Cartier experts

[@stonec2166]

You called the gold Panthere a Pasha 😂😂😂. That Yellow gold Cintree needs to be on the top tier, and the Santos and Tank Francaise are Cartier’s best sellers, they really shouldn’t be on the C tier. The precious metal Tank isn’t a Must line, it is the Tank Louis line. The Rose Gold Tank LC is a manual movement, as are the other releases from the current and past few years. Good show guys, entertaining as always.

[@joyLoveC]

Funny thing is both of them mis-named the Panthere as Pasha repeatedly, until I started to doubt my own eyes as the images were small and blurry to begin with 😆

[@stonec2166]

@@joyLoveC 🤣

[@binasur5560]

Yup, that was an error on their part. It's a small 22mm yellow gold Panthere not a Pasha.

[@appleman29]

not sure how they confused the panthere with the pasha... that's very embarrassing

[@TheRacerRich]

Unlike all other watch youtubers, Mike and Theodopolis Harris never get old, not because of their watch content but because they are humorous guys who have a good energy off each other.

[@daramda892]

Think you guys meant Panthere and not Pasha for the second “Pasha”

[@tomascastella3998]

Do you know the difference between a Pasha and a Panther?

[@kimchiwasabee]

A Pasha would never eat a Panther. Or do you mean 'Panthère'?

[@UltraDoug]

@@kimchiwasabee 💥🔥😂

[@stonec2166]

😂 I caught that as well 🤦‍♂️

[@nightwristwatchman3129]

Lol it was like “when are they gonna realise??? And they didn’t!!”

[@ozza4496]

one is a human being and the other is an animal

[@sylversyrfer6894]

Good episode but larger pictures of the watches being discussed please!!!

[@joyLoveC]

Isn’t 24:12 the Panthere, instead of Pasha?

[@BobLorrimer]

The 'Santos de Cartier' (medium -there is no small as far as I know ) looks fantastic with a Cartier deployment croc strap. Mine is in blue and the 'bolster' at the lugs is contoured seamlessly into the case. This brilliant solution gives the watch a very refined look at the table....I love it.

[@moritzgerlach7533]

Aren´t those the panthere? not the pasha? starting at 24:00

[@joyLoveC]

Yeah. How did both of them get it wrong?

[@dujayoutube7597]

Someone slap the video editor. Where are the big shots of the watches you’re talking about?

[@nwilkerson2365]

Thought I wanted a large Santos but went with 42 Ballon Bleu with steel bracelet and black alligator strap. Insanely versatile with gorgeous layered dial compared to their other offerings. And not a scratch magnet. Couldn’t be happier.

[@user-sq6hu2fo8g]

My dream watch, it's so cool and sporty but also extremely elegant, especially the all stainless steel version

[@joshuakaplan5726]

the only SS tank must that is automatic is the XL and it's massive. I have the Large Quarts Tank Must and absolutely love it. I don't mind that it's quartz because it is insanely accurate for its 6-8 year battery life and doesn't have a ticking seconds hand or date either. The XL has a running seconds hand a date at 6 that breaks up the symmetry. It would be cool to have a manual movement in the small and large tank must, but that would move the price well beyond the 3K they are currently going for. You get the most iconic cartier look while on a budget with the best accuracy possible. Definitely think that should be high B or even Low A considering the insane value for money.

[@aaronclarke919]

Do you have a decent size wrist? I’m looking to get one. I have a fairly decent size wrist , and don’t know if it’ll look good in a large . I do prefer large

[@joshuakaplan5726]

@@aaronclarke919 my wrist is between 6.25 to 6.5 circumference and about 44mm across

[@tyarnold4088]

​@@aaronclarke919i have a tank solo large. They work even on larger wrist because of the design.

[@Rosavieiraferreira]

I’m relieved that you guys ranked Dumont as good as you did 😂 bc I’ve just bought one as my first real watch in life ❤ and I LOVE IT! 😛

[@khairuljalil3498]

Hi Guys, please correct me if I'm wrong, at 23.45, is that a Pasha or a Panthere?

[@joyLoveC]

😄👍🏻

[@davidc5191]

I bought a Tank Americaine since, while evaluating several Tank models, I thought the Americaine is the only one clearly identifiable on the wrist from across a room.

[@neilgoswami142]

Every morning I wake up and hope there’s a theo and Harris video. I make my coffee and sit and watch it. I remember the longer the video that more excited Id get. Especially after a rough time in my life, I remember the only joy I’d feel was watching yalls videos so thank you for making my life so much better.

[@notenoughtime7274]

Great video and (as ever) brand knowledge. Respect. Personally, I love Cartier design, but I don’t love (most) Cartier watches. That’s mainly because the dials (mostly) don’t have enough texture, variation, and interest for me. Timeless, classic understated design sure, but love to see (more) natural stone and/or texture and colour gradation that plays with the light. A few exceptions I know… I bought a Cartier Drive rose gold Moonphase a few years back, mainly as the dial was (for my personal taste) more interesting I agree the Cartier Normale Skeleton is beautiful. Love it. I appreciate the Santos, and against all expectations after trying on in steel, two-tone and full gold - I found the ADLC Chronograph my favourite. More interesting including the more textured dial.

[@deggifatimos4997]

Cartier Drive Moonphase was a beautiful watch.

[@norbert_engel]

Interesting video!🤓 Would have loved to have seen every watch you were talking about in detail large on screen (while you're talking about it). I'm not a Cartier connoisseur, so need the visuals😬👀

[@albertomoro86]

“I hate in good restaurants “😅. That’s THE line today. ❤

[@josephgrigsby4394]

Great video! Great podcast! Thank you!

[@nukie404]

I do want to point out Cartier did make a new collection that has recently been discontinued, the Cle (Pictured in my profile pic). It's based on the key of a pocket watch, and a perfect circle. The guilloche on the dial resembles a key hole, the crown manipulation resembles turning the key on old pocket watches. It was also the debut model for the 1847MC movement... shame it never caught traction. - Han

[@XxXHardcoreshredderxXXxxxxxxxx]

How much did they go for? They are beautiful. I want a pebble but it's just..not good on my wrist and I'm too poor for one hahaha

[@Armoer]

I would have liked to see more original designs discussed like the baignoire, tortue, cloche, chinoise

[@kimchiwasabee]

Do our buddies know,the Pasha was designed by Gerald Genta?

[@cathycastella7327]

As a Pasha lover if you know you know👍🏻

[@jshwck4210]

They don't, but i think they wouldn't care. It's a bit like the Bulgari designs, not a Nautilus, Oak or Engineer.

[@kimchiwasabee]

@@jshwck4210 Right. The octo finissimo is hideous, but Bvlgari's latest releases are hottt. Some skeletons and rounder shape. Very minimalistic and stylish.

[@soulboxphoto]

The head is great says Christian 😂 I saw that reaction Michael

[@Alex7er78]

Thinking about getting a Basculante 2390, what are your thoughts

[@michaelpaulos420]

A cabochon is flat on the bottom and NOT faceted. The Cartier looks cool. I have to try one on immediately!

[@chuckandary7115]

I always look forward to your videos, hey guys I thought you where going to get into more fashion stuff along with watches to see how the correlate Any way much love from Canada

[@CokeWithIceAndLemon]

“Its not like I’m at the market yelling at the skipper!” 😂 i don’t care you gotta love Christian.

[@soulboxphoto]

What are your guys’ opinion on the Cartier Santos Ronde. I think its a much better executed round Cartier watch than the standard Ronde, Pasha or Balon Bleu. I think its the way the bracelet is designed with half moon shaped links. It pairs well with the case unlike the bracelets of the other watches. The other round watches Cartier is trying to pair straight, blocky more aggressive bracelet with a soft round watch case.

[@_juju_5]

As a female owner (new Santos, Panthere and Tank Must) and lover of Cartier watches , really enjoyed your review and ranking.

[@Surfkid16]

The tank louise is available in a pink gold manual wind version. Cartier also released the watch in yellow gold with color dials and a manual wind movement this year at W&W. Do your research.

[@shukhor3010]

The fact these 2 didn’t know that the Tank LC rose gold was a manual wind movement shows that the quality of this channel new is in question. They need to do another video the clear this.

[@Sojourner88]

@@shukhor3010 They are aware. At 35:30 Christian talks about the rose gold being offered in manual wind but it not being offered in standard yellow gold as being ridiculous, and I agree.

[@tubezaspiak]

You Ronde haters. It's like saying 'I have Ronde friends.' Own up to your prejudice against a classic dress watch made by Cartier. It is so underrated. The old Ronde Solo not so much, but they've cleaned up the dial and it is simply Cartier's most elegant looking watch.

[@tristanvanger1498]

Is it me or did you guys put a roadster on the thumbnail image and then leave it out of the ranking? Where does it go.. E? 😂

[@patriciaquintela899]

Pasha? The pasha is the round one. The women you want to Dara ware Panthers 🐆

[@paulcusentino4917]

I like that the Ronde is inconspicuous.

[@bjoernaltmann4844]

The old Francaise is my favourite (the gent's version had a date at 6 which was nicely integrated. The bracelet is inspired by the tracks of a tank. I find that the Tank case stands out better on the old one as the bracelet is not as integrated as on the new one.

[@pudgeotamus4387]

Christian, nice sweater! 👍

[@1dcubed]

Louis large comes mechanical in rose gold - 33mm x 25mm

[@1dcubed]

33mm x 25mm

[@Miaugma]

Breaks my heart you mistake a Panthere with a pasha. Still good video

[@joyLoveC]

😢 The iconic Panthere de Cartier.

[@daneconnelly]

I would have like to see some discussion about the Cloche and the Chinoise.

[@omar10213245]

No!

[@golfinguru11]

The chinoise is underrated. Probably the most masculine tank, though perhaps also the least refined tank. The Normale is still my favorite, especially on the beads of rice bracelet. Too bad they’re unobtanium.

[@michaelchoi7849]

Cartier does offer the Tank Louis in manual. Wgta0011

[@HK-cp8tm]

Thanks for the video, please consider using timestamps.

[@timclifton5951]

Hi, I’m a man and looking at the Ronde Must 40 mm (quarts) on the black strap. Is the Ronde a woman’s watch? I.e., even though they have a men’s version, is the style actually a women’s design?

[@jmcarella1]

where would you guys rank the new americane?

[@Arc1517]

If it ain’t broke don’t fix it. Rolex and Cartier in one sentence.

[@SearchingTheArchives]

Which watch is Christian wearing in this video? Timestamp 9:25

[@BWV478]

timestamps would help the video

[@tonycappuccino7897]

Mikey says, “ I’d go top of D” lol that made me giggle

[@recaanharb]

"The head is great..." Hahaha I saw you Michael...

[@thecaptainnoah]

Mornin boys from San Diego !

[@omar10213245]

Hey there, fella

[@jamiedamaral4011]

I could not agree more about the tank not having an automatic or manual wind option. It infuriates me.

[@stonec2166]

The Tank LC rose gold does have a manual movement and it has been in regular production since 2017 I believe. The yellow gold Quartz was introduced last year, also Cartier has been releasing different dial Tank LC’s for the past couple of years and all with manual movements.

[@tiffer67]

The Santos has always been my favourite watch over the last 30 years. It's just a beautiful design. In recent years I feel that Cartier have ruined it. The interchangeable bracelet/straps is a great improvement but the increase in size is not to my taste. The Dumont is more true to the original design & something that I now find a lot more appealing.

[@christianellopm]

I dont think the must are manual? New or old.

[@metrof100]

No Tank Anglaise comments?!😮

[@horologicallypromiscuous]

“The head is great….” 🤭🤭🤭I see ya’ll are still in 3rd grade with me. 😂

[@joeysanchez6777]

No tank Reverso?

[@luisdelaroca6314]

I don’t know if is just me, but skeleton Cartier is like putting oversized boob job to a beautiful and elegant lady

[@golfinguru11]

Depends on the watch. The plane rotor on the new santos dumonts is pretty cool

[@BollocksThreeofThem]

No love for the Mass Astromystereuse?

[@Amir-ot2cm]

Where is the Crash?

[@Bleppity]

The images you used were way too small and it was very hard to identify which watch you were discussing if you didn’t already know.

[@Michael-ie9lt]

Its a panthere not a pasha!

[@joyLoveC]

🙌🏻

[@leolawisch]

I do understand you guys being annoyed that Cartier doesn’t offer the Tank Must (steel) black dial with a mechanical movement, however you said they should offer it in yellow gold and they do, I actually have one myself. The Tank Louis Gold with black dial (ref WGTA0091)… maybe I miss understood you guys, but credit where credit is due. Anyways, I’m a big fan, keep up the amazing work!

[@nta25021]

Christian: “The head is great” Michael held it in!

[@bjoernaltmann4844]

The Tank Must is £2940 as of 2023. If it was mechanical (auto), it would be £4400 probably, like the Francaise used to be. It is still a good deal as you are now getting exactly the same size and proportions as the Tank Louis -unlike with the Tank Solo before. - The Tank Louis is of course mechanical, manual wind, and 18ct gold. It is also available in quartz. It also costs £12k.

[@DW-py4up]

Where is the Must being sold for £2940? Watches of Switzerland and even Cartier boutiques are listing it at £3300

[@bjoernaltmann]

@@DW-py4upthey increased the price in the meantime, apparently have done so several times this year. Get it pre-owned, definitely cheaper then

[@UltraDoug]

Cue the Cartier owners who think their watch should be ranked higher 😂 “Mine should be B not C!!”😭😡

[@GregoryIngle]

No roadster? Shameful.

[@clark2275]

Can I get the word, “Florida” one more time, please?

[@Conversus]

You are the best.

[@chapmannelson2556]

Christian is the king of hot takes

[@123ClassicRock]

What’s with the title change lol

[@danCK1990]

Pasha is ugly...😮.... It was commisioned by Cartier most famous client the pasha of marakesh and it designer credited this watch to be the inspiration for many other famous watches he created for other famous brands... And u too say it's the ugly duckling...right.....🙄

[@extremejoy]

22:03 - Grow up, Mike! Grow up! 😂

[@Dr_Demographics_IE]

Do they change the titles just to piss us off

[@THE.RATGOD]

Totally bs ranking

[@JoeyJiggles]

Francaise is an A all day!

[@357mview2]

“Norma”

[@kristopherrobin7069]

Interestingly, this video is brought to you by TRESemme

[@talarnaadams4010]

Hey just seen this thing rusty tortoise or something and I was like hey I recognize that guy so I clicked on it and this guy on the left, dunno if he’s Theo or Harris 🤷🏼 starts talking about things he likes and fashion making jackets and what not, so anyway I’m like what the heck, didn’t even think this guy with what he wears on this channel even owns a mirror! Had to come here and say if that guy on the right (maybe Theo cause Harris doesn’t sound like a beater)whom mostly dresses nicely is abusing you,, you too can join the me to people, don’t let that guy Theo hamper your dress sense!!

[@akcoop]

Need close ups fellas

[@orangebelly1029]

hey guys, long time fan. One of my fav channels in general. With that said, the intro song; in my opinion, is awful. It's a remix of the remix of an eminem song which sucks. No hate, just voicing it in hopes of it being changed one day lol

[@saphna2095]

53 minutes!😍

[@kojiattwood]

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[@kevinhan721]

Are these two guys gay couple? Not being kffensive, im just curious

[@throwingdartsandbreakinghearts]

The gayest none gay couple

[@markb.265]

Cabachons are not exclusively faceted on their exterior, Christian. The exterior can be any texture. Only the back need be flat.

[@markb.265]

So tomorrow will be a Rolex video then. Yawn. Any predictable excuse to fluff Cartier.

[@Blackpanthersrevenge]

I cant do an hour of these soy lads try to force meme a fashion watch brand into “high horology”. Cartier is last centuries mvmt. Lol

[@joeysanchez6777]

No tank Reverso?