How Could God Intervene in the Universe? | Episode 1506 | Closer To Truth

For God to be God, God could not do nothing. If God exists, God must do things. Assuming God created the universe, then God should do things with the universe. But what? And how? Featuring interviews with Niels Henrik Gregersen, Dirk Evers, Christopher Southgate, David Shatz, and Edward Wierenga.
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[@waltmoyo3700]

Dr Kuhn asks some thought-provoking questions! Such a smart and well-read man.

[@007Earth1]

Amazing and informative episodes for deep questions about life, existence and meaning.

[@dennistucker1153]

I absolutely love discussions like this. Another excellent video. I love CTT.

[@tomrhodes1629]

Mental masturbation can be fun, but speculations take you nowhere. On the other hand, listening to the Mind that is All will take you EVERYWHERE. "God" is the Mind that is ALL. And the Uni-Verse (literally One-Word) is a single empowered THOUGHT of that Mind. (For that's what a WORD is - an empowered thought.) My book explains fully, and my KZbin channel has a lot of insights....including the answer to the coronavirus - just a "click" away. And if you wonder how I know all this, Elijah has returned and the Tribulations have begun....

[@colinjava8447]

@@tomrhodes1629 how do you know god exists? Seems like you're just assuming he exists and acts as you say he does

[@JoshuaMSOG7]

@@colinjava8447 We know a God exist. We call it Aliens. You hate the term “ God “ cause it implies religion or maybe a judgmental being that will hold you accountable .

[@colinjava8447]

@@JoshuaMSOG7 What are you on about? God is an alien? Huh?

[@JoshuaMSOG7]

@@colinjava8447 you believe in aliens?

[@Erik0914]

I believe we are all made of the same mass components as the standard model may describe that God established through the initiation of energy, "Let there be light." The universe unfolded in order for God to have relationship with his creation. To love and to be loved back. Is it perfect? How would we know perfect unless something was imperfect? Is it good? How would we know good if something was not good? Do we have choice? How would we know choice unless there was the opportunity for choice? God can use quantum fields of energy or vacuum or other medium to discern our prayers or intentions, to receive praise or to intervene as God sees fit. To have a grander plan knowing he will ultimately take care of us, his intermediary creations. To keep us striving for our own development and interest while having boundaries we cannot penetrate. What a wonderful experiment for God and we, who have consciousness, get to participate.

[@jedi4049]

What a wonderful comment. I am privileged to have read it.

[@edvardj]

Your KZbin series and website are always interesting and timely. I especially liked your take on How could God intervene in the Universe. I would love to hear you talk to two US scholars who have strong and beautifully reasoned opinions on this very subject, Mr. Nader Saiedi, a professor at the University of California and Adib Masumian, Manager of Global Learning Technologies at AMD.

[@BobHamiltonnewradio]

This is such a perfect series for me at this time of my life that I feel somewhere back there...somewhere that I can't remember...God and I created this series...only to come into recognition at the right time of need...thank you Father for such perfection in a seemingly imperfect world...Divine Love has always has met and always will meet..every human need.

[@philippemartin6081]

Thank you, please be part of firts contac phone and may have to see each otters the offert it's on your side. Email me I give you my number [e-mail]

[@2msvalkyrie529]

" God and you ?!......did he need your help..?

[@2msvalkyrie529]

" God and you ?!......did he need your help..?

[@jamesruscheinski8602]

Conscious awareness discovering God fullness through language and perhaps other.

[@r.davidyoung7242]

Love it. The KZbin medium and your website really bring out your treasure trove of interviews. I spend lots of time on both. Appreciate your way of always sharpening your questions, your constant wrestling with those you ask, others who are also deep obsessive thinkers in their own way. U highlight the nuanced differences that I find necessary if one wants to get CTT 🙂🌞😺🙉👻👽!

[@arvinabramspics]

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[@uremove]

One possibility that wasn’t mentioned is that God intervenes through awareness, not through physical causation. As humans have become more aware, we recognised slavery as wrong, and abolished it, we see animals as sentient, and the environment as fragile and precious - and we act accordingly. We develop compassion. The universe shows no such compassion, so though it can not be separate from God, such a God must have relinquished control for a universe so dispassionate to the pain & suffering of its creatures. Maybe it’s only by relinquishing control, that free will can exist, as sentient beings become responsible as co-creators of the world - for better of for worse.

[@georgesolomon9505]

I agree with this... We the humans, see our selves like something special... Our existing mean nothing for the Universe... When we realize that, probably our behavior will change to better, for us and for our blue planet, wich is our only and real Creator

[@charleebecker8774]

There is more slavery in the world today than ever before.

[@ezbody]

Not "we", just some of us. The rest is paying a lip service to their illusory God, just in case He is real. Doing good, though, is worth it for the sake of goodness itself.

[@georgesolomon9505]

Of course not all of us.... But the majority of the people who want to be a part of the crowd, than their own selves...

[@anthonycraig274]

OK, Let’s get real. England abolished slavery and serfdom after the peasant revolt in 1380s. Slavery in the USA was abolished because the slave states lost the war to continue to use men as slaves. it definitely wasn’t because your god gave anyone awareness. The queen of England at the time along with the ruling class read the book uncle toms a cabin who helped propelled the abolishment of international slavery. So no what you said about god giving man awareness about slavery is just poppycock.

[@charlesrothauser1328]

When we peer out into the Universe with our instruments, we see a violent but structured Universe. From each event, there are infinite possibilities and hence an infinite number of Universes. The uncaused first cause for all these Universes is God and so God does not have to intervene in any of them.

[@melgross]

Charles Rothauser eh, that’s your belief. It’s not a truth.

[@georgesolomon9505]

God.... Fairy tail based on the ignorance and stupidity....

[@charlesrothauser1328]

@@georgesolomon9505 The more scientists study and learn about the Universe, a structure emerges that points to a plan. We are in the Universe and the Universe is in us. Cause and effect leads back to the uncaused first cause, God.

[@wamatar7596]

God is exist . It is not our job to know where he comes from because it is impossible..Our job is to worship him and thank him for creating us.

[@NaturalFuture]

In this day and age of relativism, it's only fair to ask: Who's rationalizing---the believer, or the nonbeliever?

[@owencampbell4947]

This, your channel, is a wonderful way to reveal more and more to me, the theory, that each individual is the product of his influenced informations, education, experiences, and biological evolution. What does it has to do with God? A lot, God is religion, the word God is related with religion. The Creator has nothing to do with religion, in a sense that religion was make believe and written down by men. It's legitimate to believe if someone wants to believe as long as there is no true knowledge what is true. And it's also legitimate to doubt and search for the truth about God or a Creator. Most religious people lose their faith, when they lost someone they loved so much and they needed God to help and they were badly disappointed. That's the moment you doubt the existence of a taught God of love and kindness. I think the teachings, all kinds of teachings, have manipulated us to a worse way of life, but there's no evidence of a better contrary, unless we realize and learn new ways how to see our world with the true vision and not a told vision from a wrong perspective. We could then, come closer to the truth about the purpose of our being and maybe answer the question why our universe was created. The only one evidence that we have, is that everything has to be the way it is. For what reason, is an open question. We can observe an automation of everything, although within can changes happen, it's still the automation. Thankyou for your contribution.

[@bradleymosman8325]

The most loving thing God could give us would be..............our freedom. In order to do this God had to hide. Because if God revealed himself as he really is, even instantaneously, we'd be so stunned, shocked, awed, and terrified we might forget we exist. We would have No Choice but to acknowledge him. And our freedom would be gone. So God hides and our freedom is preserved. But God had to hide. Otherwise there would be nothing BUT God. Maybe that's why God allows the cosmos to look like it doesn't need him.

[@StallionFernando]

Indeed, in his return just his mere visual presence alone will cause every one to fall to their knees and cry out in fear. Moses just catching a mere glimpse of his aura or glory left his face shinning.

[@jedi4049]

@@StallionFernando Amen

[@skatetoexplorevideos2477]

love the intro and ending music.

[@thisaccountisold9258]

I swear to god get it hahaha

[@crakhaed]

This is closer to truth

[@africanandproud6792]

The ultimate question is not whether aliens exist or not, but whether God exists or not. God is the ultimate being, and confirmation of his existence would be the game changer.

[@Star-Lord79]

I think God intervenes in my life a lot of times. You know it, some things suppose to happen but it didn't because some great force just cloaked you. You know it to yourself. There is no doubt because You can't lie to yourself that it is not what suppose to happen but it seems you have something to do yet so you are still here. I try to find answer myself. That is why I'm listening here. But no doubt there is great force "Personal God" that intervenes in my life.

[@duaneholcomb8408]

I also believe in god. Your not alone in that. I think he resides out side of. Our World. Yet he still can. Has power. Over it. ,,

[@Joe-lb8qn]

I wonder why this god intervened in your life but, for example, not in the life of a baby with cancer? Were your needs greater? Did they not deserve it but you did? Or why he cures some children with cancer or other illness (but not all children, just some) yet never, literally never, cures an amputee. Is god unable or has a bias against them?

[@neffetSnnamremmiZ]

These two different perspectives "god created it perfect and does not need to intervene, comes before all sin" (1) vs. "god created it but needs to intervene and wants to teach his creation, to refine it" (2) - reminds me in quantum physics. There we can not decide whether the state of the system is generated by a direct signal from the subject (in an antirealistic way, like a creator)(2), or if the signal comes from the beginning of all causal chains (in a realistic way, like a creation)(1). Quantum formulism forbids this decision, says it is both, both different approaches with the same empirical results. 🤔

[@anikettripathi7991]

To be infinite and omnipotent God has to be present inside and outside everything. So scientifically God has to be everything without any exception.

[@StallionFernando]

No,

[@anikettripathi7991]

@@StallionFernando to be more precise energy and consciousness is everything. Energy also is product of absolute consciousness so consciousness is whole perceptible universe consciousness is component of absolute nothingness. We call that God, nirgun nirakar. Everything originated from that and disappears in that only in cyclic manners.

[@Pipo1987]

Hello, congratulations for your extraordinary work. I wanna ask you.. Are you an agnostic really? Thank you

[@SecretEyeSpot]

I like how he said "it must be general in scope" 3:00 Can you imagine if "blessings" were individually tailor made? Divine Classism.. Im sure some actually believe this..

[@rl7012]

They are both tailor made and general in scope. God can do specifics and tailor made and general all at the same time. Humans cannot do this so we don't think god can either, but God can.

[@MrRamon2004]

How I love for humanity seen what I see, same of those places I don’t even know what I see. I know the reason we are here, the universe is like human process, we are in are on, the creator (light) plans life deep in darkness. In this life and the next one stay in the light.

[@kencusick6311]

I’ve noticed the idea of God usually starts from the a priori assumption that nothing is the normal state and requires an outside entity to create something. But the opposite seems as valid. That something is the natural state of the universe and nothing requires an outside force.

[@thebullybuffalo]

"Something is the natural state of the universe" Lol how would it be otherwise? It's just a tautological statement. Nothing is the natural state of the universe? Something (the universe) that has a state of *being* that is *nothing* just doesn't exist... You're like "well it seems that something always existed which was the universe because uhh... clearly the universe exists and is something" What?

[@kencusick6311]

@@thebullybuffalo The arguments for God always start from an a priori assumption that the existence of the universe needs to be explained. That without this explanation, nothingness would prevail. Why should that be so? That the universe has always existed, strikes me as equally valid as the statement, God has always existed.

[@tomrhodes1629]

Actually, Ken, as my book explains, the ancient Greek philosopher Parmenides - the father of modern logic - correctly explained how NOTHINGNESS is absolutely impossible. And, as it turns, here's what's going on: God is the Mind that is ALL. And the Uni-Verse (literally One-Word) is a single empowered THOUGHT of that Mind. (For that's what a WORD is - an empowered thought.) The Universe of our perceptions - and our experiential world of LIMITATION - is just a virtual-reality dream-type experience that shall vanish when it's purpose is served. (Which has already occurred, because TIME is an illusion.) We will then return to our LIMITLESS state of Being, where we want nothing to do with such limited dreams. My book explains fully and gives the reason for this experience, and my KZbin channel has a lot of insights....including the answer to the coronavirus - just a "click" away. And if you wonder how I know all this, Elijah has returned. And the Tribulations have begun....But there's some very good news that hasn't yet been understood by most people, and I'm here to deliver it once again....

[@thebullybuffalo]

@@kencusick6311 the universe eternally existing is an entirely logically possible. It's just that science has shown that the universe began. That's why it needs an explanation - empirically it needs to be explained but there's no logical necessity. The underlying principle is that everything that begins has a cause. If they universe began then it must have a cause. That is the age old argument.

[@LastBastian]

@@thebullybuffalo What you describe as: "science has shown the universe began" ....only means the universe began *in it's current state.* This does *not* eliminate the possibility of existence in other states or forms.

[@bhangrafan4480]

This is almost a self-contradictory question. The word 'God' is usually taken to mean the creator of the universe, so if there is a 'God' to talk about in the first place they probably created the universe. Why then if some thinks 'God' can create a universe they can't modify it where and when they choose? The question really is "Do you think there is a God who created the universe or not?"

[@mrmetaphysics9457]

Knowledge of the Devine calls for mystical experience!

[@chrisyoung5929]

And how do you know the difference between "mystical experience" and a psychotic episode? If you have no evidence then it is not "Knowledge" but a fuzzy feeling you like.

[@mrmetaphysics9457]

@@chrisyoung5929 do you know if you are being rational right now?

[@anthonycraig274]

@@mrmetaphysics9457 Asking for evidence is probably the most rational thing to do.

[@arthurwieczorek4894]

Up to 7:29 the Herr Professor describes a deistic God. Then it's "God relates to" the world. I ask you, can that 'relates to' have any meaning at all if it doesn't mean some kind of intervention? Can God intervene in the world without contradicting what we think of as the natural world? I think not.

[@philippugsley1045]

In the absolute beginning I guess the original matter of the universe must have come from somewhere.

[@tomrhodes1629]

All is Thought in a Great Mind, Philip. Like a computer simulation, except NOT in a lifeless computer: in the SOURCE of Life Itself. If you want to know more, including the answer to the coronavirus - it's just a "click" away. And if you wonder how I know all this, Elijah has returned. And the Tribulations have begun....

[@sanathansatya1667]

When we assume the Beginning as ABSOLUTE we have to understand it as beyond Time , Space and From. It is neither matter nor non matter. It is beyond existence of the Universal laws. Everything appeared after that . That Absolute Nothingness which includes Everything is beyond our mental perception but not beyond Spiritual experience.

[@stefanolacchin4963]

The fact that our mind can't grasp a concept, doesn't mean something MUST have happened in a way we understand. As long as the fundamental randomness of some quantum effects is not disproved, and if spacetime and matter are emergent like some recent studies seem to suggest, causality can't be assumed blindly.

[@sanathansatya1667]

There can't a beginning for the Universe . If there is a beginingit should have started from Something .

[@joeyburrell3207]

I love closer to truth and it’s host Robert, but I can’t help but think this question of how can God intervene in the universe he created. It’s kinda silly if you believe he exist and is the creator of it. Then of course he can at will. I mean if you created something, wouldn’t you be able to interact or affect it at will in some way or fashion? 😳

[@tedgrant2]

Crocodiles don't need to brush their teeth ! They don't need any maintenance. God must love crocodiles. Perfect design.

[@rl7012]

Yes but atheists claim that crocodiles are the closest reptile relatives to birds believe it or not.

[@tedgrant2]

@@rl7012 I seen a dragon fly. I even seen a house fly. But I've been done seen about everything when I see a crocodile fly.

[@rl7012]

@@tedgrant2 🎶When I see a crocodile fly 🎵

[@stinkertoy4310]

Was telepathy covered? I missed it.

[@markberman6708]

Yes, any time the creator of creation wishes. But what would such an intervention look like, I think, is a better question. Have we thought through the real nature of our existence, does it look like we have a purpose, or a mission and would intervention be limited enough to try to help us along our path without jacking around too much with free will... would breaking the free will paradigm break the whole thing? We are not here and sentient for no reason.

[@jaylinn416]

These Lutheran theologians are really, really great. ( The first one was the best.) I think Dr. Kuhn has finally found the right answer to his lengthy investigation. The answer to his spiritual search is obvious. Dr. Kuhn should join the Lutheran denomination!!!

[@StallionFernando]

Lol no.

[@alemartinezrojas5285]

Southgate is right in saying that a "creature" as the universe, needs to be contingent on God, in order to be a creation. Otherwise, something that needs nothing to be and exists by nature of its own essence, it is God and not a creature. Everything that comes to exist, it is contingent or dependent by definition in its coming to be and function by something else.

[@khaledsarwar8130]

Ale Martinez Rojas Yeah i’m pretty sure this is similar to Leibniz’s contingency argument

[@tomrhodes1629]

Are you ready to go beyond mere intellectual speculation? God is the Mind that is ALL. And the Uni-Verse (literally One-Word) is a single empowered THOUGHT of that Mind. (For that's what a WORD is - an empowered thought.) My book explains fully, and my KZbin channel has a lot of insights....including the answer to the coronavirus . And if you wonder how I know all this, Elijah has returned. And the Tribulations have begun....

[@tzm6910]

Were not you guys said we found God particle and we split it?

[@Star-Lord79]

I ask God what is his plan. If I don't let him lead me, something happens but in time, I have to go to this process of his plan again. I have to follow so I won't go in the same process. I try to understand his plan in my life so I won't be going through things again and again and learn what he wants.

[@philrobson4287]

If there were no humans on earth would god still exist?

[@mrmetaphysics9457]

Phil Robson, the answer to your question is mentioned in this video that is if you can get it understand!

[@JAYDUBYAH29]

Phil Robson nope

[@triggerme2818]

Your question presupposes the deity's existence.

[@skatetoexplorevideos2477]

yes to your answer. to me, god is the universe. that's how i roll. you can believe whatever you want.

[@neffetSnnamremmiZ]

While we have to go, God comes..

[@johannpopper1493]

The traditional Judaic/orthodox Christian/Platonic/Western answer to this question is that the act of creation itself is perpetually total interaction with the universe at all times, since God transcends the universe and time. So, the way the question is formulated, presupposing a superbeing that stands in relation to the universe in such a way that both are subject to a higher order of nature as the medium of interaction, is logically clearly not the traditional definition of the monotheistic creative God.

[@lucianmaximus4741]

Kudos -- 444 Gematria -- 🗽

[@anirudhadhote]

❤ Very good 👍🏼

[@arthurwieczorek4894]

18:26. "God is really doing everything." I find that tantamount to saying ' There is really no nature, no things happening because that is the way they have to happen by their nature. So the world really is a stage. God is the stage and prop manager. No, not even that solid. More like a mirage. If it is a mirage at least God doesn't have to personally hoid up every refrigerator magnet in the universe.

[@metalkokorea]

How could a bit try to understand the computer engineer?

[@charleebecker8774]

There's nothing wrong here and God is fulfilling every moment in the universe. Nothing to intervene about. Peace be with you always.

[@garychartrand7378]

As any Spiritual Master would say " Everything is in a mess, but ALL is well".

[@sven888]

The question "how could God intervene in the Universe" denotes a belief in separation. When one studies physics, biology or even theology (comparative religions) it is obvious that any separation is ultimately illusory. All is one. My suggestion is to read the Pratyabhijnahrdayam coupled to the teachings of Jesus or the Gospel of Thomas.

[@danielalexander799]

The question itself presupposes that it is a necessity that God needs to intervene in the physical universe. If you accept that God's purpose is for us to love him, then God need not necessarily intervene in the physical universe. He could simply sit back and soak up the love we send him in our prayers.

[@StallionFernando]

He intervenes constantly in order to have a proper personal relationship. Love is not a one way street.

[@surendrakverma555]

Good

[@jamesruscheinski8602]

Humanity require God intervention to remove sin through God nature as divine being.

[@51elephantchang]

If God is timeless and action is necessarily temporal how can God act?

[@neffetSnnamremmiZ]

Timeless means not to be not in time. God is already, is looking from future back on us, in the other side God will come, so it is both. It already is and will come..

[@51elephantchang]

@@neffetSnnamremmiZ Looking is temporal.

[@neffetSnnamremmiZ]

@@51elephantchang Yes, and God is temporal and not, because it can pull itself out of the nothing..

[@arthurwieczorek4894]

3:17 Is a blessing from God an intervention?

[@mykrahmaan3408]

Dear Mr. Kuhn, There is no meaning in all these concepts I analyse, viz. "Free will, consciousness, Truth, ... ", so long as I haven't defined "I" as a particular sequence of particles and specify a definite criterion of proof related to satisfaction of my needs to verify the accuracy of the theory I assume as to the origin of those particles.

[@joe-bloggs.]

There is a plan. Just because our perspective is tiny and we don’t understand the seemingly nasty atrocities committed daily, we should not conclude that our father has rejected his creation. We should remember that the enemy adulterated his creation at the beginning. Intelligent design from our father is beyond the puny claims from science and their convoluted evolution fantasy.

[@ericellquist7007]

Well, from my perspective, if He has, it hasn't been for the better.

[@cmhiekses]

The music is so so bad. Who made that decision? Ugh.

[@myothersoul1953]

God does it with radio waves, he has an RC unit similar to what RC cars have but much more godly and the batteries are always full charged.

[@anthonycraig274]

😂 after reading that I almost choked on my soup.

[@doriesse824]

How could He not?

[@blackbearbear9313]

Because everything is his there is no one or thing higher

[@DyingToLive12]

Alla willing!

[@tedgrant2]

It seems to me that we decide what God does. We want a God who loves us, therefore God loves us. We want a God who gives us nice things, therefore God gives us nice things. We want sinners to be punished for ever, therefore God punishes sinners for ever.

[@rl7012]

Not really. It depends on how any person or religion see's God. People view God differently and project things onto Him. But do not mistake human projections for actual facts. God exists but not necessarily in the way that humans and religions have projected Him to be.

[@arthurwieczorek4894]

To believe in God is to believe in sentiment. To take the anti-theistic stance is to believe in meaning, ie, the meaning of words. My definition of sentiment is, what should be true is true.

[@kimsahl8555]

How God intervene - he must as everyone comply the laws of Nature.

[@kuroryudairyu4567]

💘

[@BrianThomas]

Forgive me if I'm wrong. I"m no expert here, but as men of faith. How can any of them answer questions without reverting to scripture? Without doing so makes it 100% their take on the question. Granted, scripture doesn't answer everything, but it has some answers about what God does.

[@skiptalbot]

It would still be 100% their take, since interpretations of scripture are entirely subjective. That's because scripture is often ambiguous, contradictory even, and one has no choice but to see it through the lens of their own language, context, and understanding of the world, all of which are completely different than the original authors'.

[@messenjah71]

God intervenes by lending us His Voice to guide us out of it. And to ensure that this would ultimately happen, He placed His Voice in our minds. There it patiently waits for us to listen and follow.

[@duaneholcomb8408]

Is creation real. Yes we create.

[@jameelhassan3112]

We would love if u someday discuss God with some islamic scholar...n shaikh hamza yusuf from usa may b one

[@arthurwieczorek4894]

0:25 A God who does nothing is not a God. Arthur, the atheist, says that is a very profound insight.

[@brydonjesse]

Like physical matter, energy evolves. Consciousness arose and it began to create itself through matter.

[@StallionFernando]

Neither of those statements are true.

[@brydonjesse]

@@StallionFernando you are a thing of phisical matter, "you" evolved. Consiousness evolved by creating you.

[@StallionFernando]

@@brydonjesse ok, explain to me how life began or got to earth?

[@brydonjesse]

@@StallionFernando okay. Consiousness was thinking about what it was for a very long time, until it thought about something else. It thought about that thing alot moving it and multiplying it creating the fabric of the universe, space and time. As it thought about the thing it combined that special stuff in stars and blew them up (light is a portal or conduit of consiousness) creating the first few elements we see. As time passed and masses climped together stars formed again and exploded again creating the rest of the elements. Our sun and the stuff around had just the right mix or temp, magnetic sphear, and volcanic activity. Many elements mixed in layer upon layer of sediment small chains of molecules collected and assembled in the salt, water, and muck. From there forward thinking drove our precursor forms further and further looking toward the future more and more. Now we think we have individuality, our own consiousness, and that we are separate. Every now and again one gets a glimpse of the true nature of reality ✨ every now and again

[@Anju28959]

🌿🌿🌿 GOD IS A BODILESS MIND AND GOD IS DREAMING THE UNIVERSE 🌿🌿🌿

[@NaturalFuture]

Robert, "God" isn't necessarily less powerful because He chose to make the universe so that it doesn't run on its own. It's not a matter of power, Robert, but of choice. If, as some say, God (hardly a name) grants freedom to the "Creation," that itself is a way of letting it run on its own. In the course of running on its own, however, the universe might tend to meander off course from the overall "plan" He might have had for it---a sort-of "destiny" toward which it's overall advancing. Thus, God would need to intervene by readjusting it. What if humans try to create a Dyson Sphere or Swarm---destroying planets in the process? Since the "God" entity apparently created stars to shine and planets to circle around them, it's obvious that He would interfere with such human undertakings. Or, when it comes to the LGBTQIA. If the "God" entity created us, as all other mammals, to be male and female, don't you think "God" would interfere with any attempt by humans to alter the male-female sexual arrangement? The purpose? It alone enables us to reproduce naturally---without scientific equipment? What about the ongoing projects to establish a new world of cybernetic humans under the control of artificial Superintelligence---a mechanical creation in control, for that matter, of nuclear weapons---it's obvious God would stop such a world from coming to fruition. In the case of the ongoing threat to billions of innocents of being destroyed by nuclear weapons, many would agree that the case of glowing lights hovering over the silos at Malmstrom AFB in the 1980s is a case of God demonstrating He has the power to shut down such powerful human weapons at will. Yes, if the universe was created by a God-Being, it will intervene to the extent to protect that which it spent billions of years creating.

[@rl7012]

It didn't take God billions of years to create all this, He did it instantly. God is not time bound. Also please don't call God 'it'.

[@arthurwieczorek4894]

What is the difference between nature and our conception of nature? However that is, God intervening in the universe destroys nature, or our conception of nature. So, what would a non-natural universe have to be, in the broadest sense?

[@TheTroofSayer]

Fussing about the god question is of limited utility. It would be more productive to ask how (and why) anything at all can come from nothing. The reason that this question should take precedence is because God himself can only be possible if the void allows it. What is it that compels virtual particles to precipitate from the void? What characteristics must virtual particles acquire, before they become the atoms and molecules that manifest, across time, as matter? Once we satisfy ourselves about the nature of the void, the god question becomes almost incidental. If God exists, then he is beyond our comprehension anyways. To believe or not to believe should be of zero concern, as it was for the Buddha.

[@tomrhodes1629]

You're correct about the uselessness of speculation, Troof. And here's some information that comes from BEYOND the realm of speculation, because it didn't arise from a mere human mind: God is the Mind that is ALL. And the Uni-Verse (literally One-Word) is a single empowered THOUGHT of that Mind. (For that's what a WORD is - an empowered thought.) My book explains fully, and my KZbin channel has a lot of insights....including the answer to the coronavirus - just a "click" away. And if you wonder how I know all this, Elijah has returned. And the Tribulations have begun....

[@Ndo01]

If there was a god, it could very well be the case that he would intervene with reality in the same way we intervene with a movie. He could've made it, watched it, and now we're just sitting in his closet blu-ray collection while he's out watching and making other, seperate movies.

[@tomrhodes1629]

You're on the right track, Nando. God is the Mind that is ALL. And the Uni-Verse (literally One-Word) is a single empowered THOUGHT of that Mind. (For that's what a WORD is - an empowered thought.) The Universe of our perceptions - and our experiential world of LIMITATION - is just a virtual-reality dream-type experience (or "movie") that shall vanish when it's purpose is served. (Which has already occurred, because TIME is an illusion.) We will then return to our LIMITLESS state of Being, where we want nothing to do with such limited dreams (movies). My book explains fully and gives the reason for this experience, and my KZbin channel has a lot of insights....including the answer to the coronavirus - just a "click" away. And if you wonder how I know all this, Elijah has returned. And the Tribulations have begun....

[@Ndo01]

@@tomrhodes1629 Wow thanks. I actually recently derived that same cosmological view independently.

[@neffetSnnamremmiZ]

For example, the zoonosis of the corona virus is the logical consequence of our (unworthy) behavior (towards the living), and this is the same as the (direct or indirect) "will of God". "God" is the life itself ("I am the life!") which can pull itself even out of the nothing, and it organizes itself, for which we are something like building bricks. It "speaks" even in a bush to us and says: 'Do u know, who I am? I am the eternal life!' And it said what it is going to do. So, how Newton warned: be careful with your judgment and conclusions about the future abilities of the living! In science the real living is already subtracted from the calculation! ☝️

[@tomrhodes1629]

On the right track, Neffets. God is the Mind that is ALL. And the Uni-Verse (literally One-Word) is a single empowered THOUGHT of that Mind. (For that's what a WORD is - an empowered thought.) The Universe of our perceptions - and our experiential world of LIMITATION - is just a virtual-reality dream-type experience that shall vanish when it's purpose is served. (Which has already occurred, because TIME is an illusion.) We will then return to our LIMITLESS state of Being, where we want nothing to do with such limited dreams. My book explains fully and gives the reason for this experience, and my KZbin channel has a lot of insights....including the answer to the coronavirus - just a "click" away. And if you wonder how I know all this, Elijah has returned. And the Tribulations have begun....

[@kenanderson7769]

Problem when people talk about God. People do not define what God is. Then make assertions about God as they understand God. It is not rational.

[@jamesruscheinski8602]

God free will create the universe through which it has independent existence.

[@ikaeksen]

What if we are gods thoughts now, and this is how he thinks, this universe.

[@richardmooney383]

If you make a creation that only continues to exist while you sustain it - it's not much of a creation.

[@rl7012]

Not really. God could make a self sustaining one, or he could make one that needs Him to sustain it. We don't know which one this is.

[@deanwilson8955]

Is God simply the great observer allowing creation to flourish or sink as it will? Humans may mistakenly believe God cares what we do and how we act.

[@mikeq5807]

Or perhaps people have a misconception about God.

[@Aluminata]

If God exists these guys are full of it - If God does not exist - these guys are still full of it.

[@tomwitness8780]

The earth has been rotating regularly and revolving around the sun, I don't think gravity alone can solve it, maybe this is what God is doing

[@mateusmacedoquintano5693]

"Berakhah"

[@fsmm95]

Humans initially had relied on their imaginations to explain the world and its phenomena as they had no other tools. They have done a great job. We, believers and the non-believers who live in third millennium, are still dealing with their legendary work in different ways and methods. Is it bad that we still attached to the childhood of human mind? it depends on how and why!

[@jlmer616]

Fatin Noor I agree. I would add that all religions want and have written into their texts a God what provides results, that is, a God that will free them from bondage, will be on their side when enemies lurk, will bless them with prosperity, will be faithful to them as long as they praise and believe in him and most importantly a God who promises another chance at life. What if God didn’t do any of those things? What would people feel about such a God? We have basically conjured up a God that is tailored to satisfy our needs.

[@goldentwilight1944]

Except the peculiar thing is that we still find a deeper meaning in child-like imagination and legends than the modern tools can provide. They have created a new legend and we are still like children.

[@duaneholcomb8408]

@@jlmer616 it'd sounds like you are trying hard to disprove a thing. Rather than just look at what might be.

[@TheUltimateSeeds]

It's always entertaining to watch the metaphorical equivalent of amoebas trying to figure out what exists above and outside of their petri dish.

[@tomrhodes1629]

Good analogy, Seeds. And here's some information that I received, not by trying to figure things out, but by simply DESIRING TRUTH. And it was given to me: "God" is the Mind that is ALL. And the Uni-Verse (literally One-Word) is a single empowered THOUGHT of that Mind. (For that's what a WORD is - an empowered thought.) The Universe of our perceptions - and our experiential world of LIMITATION - is just a virtual-reality dream-type experience that shall vanish when it's purpose is served. (Which has already occurred, because TIME is an illusion.) We will then return to our LIMITLESS state of Being, where we want nothing to do with such limited dreams. My book explains fully and gives the reason for this experience, and my KZbin channel has a lot of insights....including the answer to the coronavirus - just a "click" away. And if you wonder how I know all this, Elijah has returned. And the Tribulations have begun....But there's some very good news that hasn't yet been understood by most people, and I'm here to deliver it once again....

[@stefanolacchin4963]

@@tomrhodes1629 All behold the sheer arrogance of this particular amoeba.

[@xtaticsr2041]

It’s a little bit more I think. If you take infinite stack of turtles analogy, figuring out if we are in a petri dish is just one turtle below but what we really want to know is where these turtles even exist, what/how they exist and if the stack is actually infinite. I could be wrong of course.

[@missusbarkdog]

Then He turned towards the heaven when it was ˹still like˺ smoke, saying to it and to the earth, ‘Submit, willingly or unwillingly.’ They both responded, ‘We submit willingly.’

[@williamburts5495]

God isn't related to the world the world is related to God.

[@anthonycraig274]

OK, between Issac Newton and that guy, if I had to chose, I would side with Isaac.

[@avival66]

Befor i watche this video..i belive that god and rekigion are human creation....human need to give an answer to his existans and by beliving in a super natural god he can explane his mortality..his univers...his reality. Every culture and in all human history god and the mitilogy about god was and still is a human topic that is in itself complex and mistyrios and all this is a resolt from human nature.

[@TimeGhost7]

God is one's connection to the universe. When the connection is formalised by religion, that to me is called god. Looking for god as a separate entity to put on top of science, I personally think is a misinterpretation. To me, science is our best interpretation of how God acts. The choice of using God as an entity to define ourselves, to me stems from how conscious, people feel that universe connection should be. The components of connection are conscious so it doesn't seem so outlandish an interpretation, to use god as a conscious definition of connection. But this interpretation does invalidate the question.

[@tomrhodes1629]

Yes, Chris, God is not something separate from anything or anybody. For God is the Mind that is ALL. And the Uni-Verse (literally One-Word) is a single empowered THOUGHT of that Mind. (For that's what a WORD is - an empowered thought.) The Universe of our perceptions - and our experiential world of LIMITATION - is just a virtual-reality dream-type experience that shall vanish when it's purpose is served. (Which has already occurred, because TIME is an illusion.) We will then return to our LIMITLESS state of Being, where we want nothing to do with such limited dreams. My book explains fully and gives the reason for this experience, and my KZbin channel has a lot of insights....including the answer to the coronavirus - just a "click" away. And if you wonder how I know all this, Elijah has returned. And the Tribulations have begun....

[@TimeGhost7]

@@tomrhodes1629 The universe is in our minds, as how could we know of it any other way, but it would stand to reason our minds interpret something external. A duality of existence which needs both observer and world to be. As we talk in the world, we are connecting the references we have with each other. Time exists because we perceive it existing and make our definition. The limitless is a dream through hope. If it cannot be truly known or referenced as we are, how relevantly can we speak of it? Words sew the connections to common references between conversing people. They can illuminate, but we are bound by what we know always. There is much misunderstanding as our language fails us in connecting to others. I checked out your videos and found you a bit too certain for my tastes. I believe truth is distributed among the many. Different bits from different people shaping one's own internal world. I cannot distinguish your truth from what you proclaim is the deeper truth easily in your videos. For example, cancer prefers acidic environments, but to say baking soda is a cure for cancer, I feel makes an overreaching claim. We hold the partial truth in ourselves and we must connect with others in order to make it truer. Much to our frustration, we lose simplicity to be able to say clear things when we do this. But all knowledge helps and I thank you for your insight even as I choose to go my own way. I had not considered body pH levels before.

[@ronhatch4451]

Psychedelics may provide a viable empirical platform for this exploratory investigation.

[@tomrhodes1629]

Psychedelics do indeed help a person to see the illusory nature of perception. And they can give you insights, for example, to the fact that everything is alive - everything in this Universe is conscious. But psychedelics won't answer the most important question, the question of WHY; the question of MEANING. But as one who has found that answer I can tell you that "God" is the Mind that is ALL. And the Uni-Verse (literally One-Word) is a single empowered THOUGHT of that Mind. (For that's what a WORD is - an empowered thought.) My book explains fully, and my KZbin channel has a lot of insights....including the answer to the coronavirus - just a "click" away. And if you wonder how I know all this, Elijah has returned. And the Tribulations have begun....

[@bipolarbear9917]

@@tomrhodes1629 You are just another scammer, trying to seduce the gullible into buying your stupid book, or clicking on your stupid channel. The real truth is no-one knows the answers, and if they say they do they're no better than charlatan Benny Hinn, David Icke, Klee Irwin or any other con artist, even fraudster Donald Trump himself. You should be ashamed of yourself.

[@domcasmurro2417]

I'm agnostic but David Bentley Hart should be in those episodies.

[@andrebrown8969]

Agnostics? Take a side man.

[@domcasmurro2417]

@@andrebrown8969 🎵 I always pick my side. 🎵 Because i tend to be right.

[@tomrhodes1629]

Dom, you would probably enjoy my KZbin video "Why Agnostics Are Wise." I used to be agnostic. But now, check this out: "God" is the Mind that is ALL. And the Uni-Verse (literally One-Word) is a single empowered THOUGHT of that Mind. (For that's what a WORD is - an empowered thought.) The Universe of our perceptions - and our experiential world of LIMITATION - is just a virtual-reality dream-type experience that shall vanish when it's purpose is served. (Which has already occurred, because TIME is an illusion.) We will then return to our LIMITLESS state of Being, where we want nothing to do with such limited dreams. My book explains fully and gives the reason for this experience, and my KZbin channel has a lot of insights....including the answer to the coronavirus - just a "click" away. And if you wonder how I know all this, Elijah has returned. And the Tribulations have begun....But there's some very good news that hasn't yet been understood by most people, and I'm here to deliver it once again....

[@HeroWarsPhanatic]

So God is basically some kind of a Master Programmer & his code has some bugs, he is debugging as he goes along.. but the question is who created God & who created the creator of God & who created the creator of his creator & on & on..

[@jedi4049]

Nothing past God. Always is and was.

[@alphaomega1089]

We can't even understand self. How can we understand someone else (especially the author)? Do you like the part you are playing is the only question!? No? Then what can you do to land a better part?

[@ashoksalian3593]

Suppose there are 2 person A and B Now b wants money to get a important stuff so he prays and gets it as for A he thinks that B is rich and don't deserve that thing so he he prays that money be lost should it be granted why i ask is according to b he needs the money but A thinks the otherwise both are rightly asking what they want The thing is if god frequently did all the miracle while it may be good for the person it doesn't necessarily mean good for the person around him hell if god even granted everyone their wish they would still criticize over it

[@BIngeilski]

God = Universe

[@tomrhodes1629]

Yes, random. And God also TRANSCENDS the Universe. Because, God is the Mind that is ALL. And the Uni-Verse (literally One-Word) is a single empowered THOUGHT of that Mind. (For that's what a WORD is - an empowered thought.) The Universe of our perceptions - and our experiential world of LIMITATION - is just a virtual-reality dream-type experience that shall vanish when it's purpose is served. (Which has already occurred, because TIME is an illusion.) We will then return to our LIMITLESS state of Being, where we want nothing to do with such limited dreams. My book explains fully and gives the reason for this experience, and my KZbin channel has a lot of insights....including the answer to the coronavirus - just a "click" away. And if you wonder how I know all this, Elijah has returned. And the Tribulations have begun....But there's some very good news that hasn't yet been understood by most people, and I'm here to deliver it once again....

[@anthonycraig274]

@@tomrhodes1629 I have to say, I haven’t voluntarily read such nonsense for years.

[@arthurwieczorek4894]

1:05. To say that the universe has an independent existence is to say it is natural. Any Devine intervention in the universe makes it non-independent ---non-natural.

[@SandipChitale]

Finally, Robert is starting to realize(?) there is circular logic in the arguments we hear here. He even says so. Not sure what it will take for him to realize that they are IN FACT circular logic based arguments.

[@domcasmurro2417]

These are old videos i think. In fact he is more theist in the most recent videos.

[@dankuchar6821]

You really don't think that Robert understands all the circular reasoning? He's just interviewing and asking questions. I'm sure someone of his intellectual at the two can recognize circular reasoning.

[@SandipChitale]

@@dankuchar6821 I hope so too. I wish he pushed back on those circular arguments a little more if he wants get value out of them.

[@dankuchar6821]

@@SandipChitale I think their arguments are lame personally. But my understanding of God is probably just a lot different than there's.

[@tomrhodes1629]

Yep. Here's the real deal, Sandip: God is the Mind that is ALL. And the Uni-Verse (literally One-Word) is a single empowered THOUGHT of that Mind. (For that's what a WORD is - an empowered thought.) The Universe of our perceptions - and our experiential world of LIMITATION - is just a virtual-reality dream-type experience that shall vanish when it's purpose is served. (Which has already occurred, because TIME is an illusion.) We will then return to our LIMITLESS state of Being, where we want nothing to do with such limited dreams. My book explains fully and gives the reason for this experience, and my KZbin channel has a lot of insights....including the answer to the coronavirus - just a "click" away. And if you wonder how I know all this, Elijah has returned. And the Tribulations have begun....

[@richardmooney383]

This bloke, the second one I think (the one with the European accent) is just thrashing around in an effort to make his theology agree with obvious truth.

[@QuestionEverythingButWHY]

Does God exist or not? I think the better question would be "Why do people believe God exist?"

[@bazstrutt8247]

Books In Review Cognitive closure

[@JAYDUBYAH29]

Books In Review precisely

[@Lolux1701]

Too bad that this video isn't about wether god exists or not.

[@lordbunbury]

Because it’s a plausible answer to all kinds of existential reasoning and angst. People are religious because religiousness helped our ancestors be ‘more fit’ to survive and have offspring.

[@myothersoul1953]

@@Lolux1701 Think about this, the episode begins with the Host asking a question about god. Next he asks the question to myriad god believers and gets a bunch of different answers. It ends with the host saying he doesn't even know if god exists. He listened to what they had to say and was unconvinced... what's that about?

[@masterofwayshowerswayshowe5809]

Nobody is able to explain the who picture of creation .why? Because universe is vast and has space for every idea the mson source creators use to create ..idea...there are lot of gods in every levels eben God has God like infinite dimensions..every dimension has its own knowledge with the desire to reach higher dimensions therefore the main purpose of human souls is to reach higher dimensions via the school of earth...bit fortunately or unfortunately there are 2 sides in creation call whatever you want but both have their own way of thinking when it comes to creation and it reflects to our daily life through telepathic communication connecting the frequencies by thinking free will in taking sides ..it is very precision information with lot of subinformations ..

[@suatustel746]

Never ever indulge with the believer, all because they lacked leeway to manoeuvre their primal thoughts in their mind..

[@StallionFernando]

Exactly, you need to be reasonable and logical to believe in God, secularist lack reason.

[@downwinder3]

Ever noticed that of the dozens or hundreds of super smart theological believers that this guy has interviewed no two of them have the same opinions about what God is or what God can do or anything else not any of them are the same

[@Amar-bl5no]

I mean really?? I AM your biggest fan...I follow everything u publish...but I mean really did u have to fly all the way to Copenhagen to hear that reply??

[@xtaticsr2041]

I am not sure but I don’t think Mr Kuhn visits just one person on one trip, he visits multiple interesting people on multiple topics and his crew puts the different together the episodes according to the topic discussed.