How Counter Artillery Fire Works

Ever wondered how counter artillery fire works? In this short video, we break down the process in simple terms. #artillery #military #tactical #modernwarfare #fire

[@YOQUE2xgpxTRiu]

There are lot of people in the comment section confusing between 'Counter-artillery fire' and 'Artillery duel'. 'Counter-artillery fire' must include at least an aerial reconnaissance because the precondition is that the opposing artillery units are not within view of one another, hence the origin of the tactic is WW1. The firefight between artillery units in the 18~19th centuries is called 'Artillery duel' because in those ages there were no technologically sophiscated methods of reconnaissance that is comparable to the modern era like the aerial recon, or the satelite recon and more often than not artillery units had to b e within view of one another in order to exchange fire, hence the name 'artillery duel'.

[@user-wx8nq9xh1p]

That was what I was thinking and I am glad I am not the only thinking about it.😅

[@chikntaco141]

Counter battery artillery fire is just the modern term for artillery duel 🤦

[@vondantalingting]

​​@@chikntaco141 Not quite. The idea of a duel can only be defined by those coining it. In general duels are one on one fight, but what is the difference between a duel and a murder? When you murder someone you either do it by surprise or you face them and drag a fight? Not to mention, what about first blood duels where both sides only stop when their opponent draw first blood? In this case, what is the difference between a duel and a dogfight? A sniper picking off an entire squad of infantry? A battery of Cannons trying to outdo one another in a game of cat and mouse? Without the given parameters a war is no different than organized multiple homicides. But why is it called war?

[@hanneswiggenhorn2023]

I don't think airplanes are a complete necessity, because there are other methods like listening and triangulation that don't require airplanes, so all you need would be indirect artillery fire

[@thurbine2411]

Must include aerial recon? No. Maybe some kind of recon or intelligence gathering but not aerial. You could use sound and ground based obervers and more

[@samiamrg7]

“shoot-and-scoot” is still a pretty important part of avoiding couter-battery fire. There are weapon systems capable of firing and then getting on the move before their first shell even hits. This is important because it makes the traditional method of calculating the direction and distance the shells came from ineffective, since by the time the calculations are done and CB fire is initiatwd, the mobile artillery is no longer at the location they fired from.

[@pirig-gal]

There are systems, like specialized radar, that can detect and pinpoint artillery positions while the shell is still mid-flight. And with highly integrated artillery systems, the "shoot-and-scoot" needs to be even faster and faster, a different facet of the arms race.

[@SwedePlaysGames]

Counter Battery Tactics, or CBT if you like

[@sauceempty418]

CBT means cognitive behavioral therapy 😂

[@Felix-xw6du]

“Does he know?”

[@tripsaplenty1227]

Country artillery fire sounds like a banjo.

[@raydog0483]

Tchaikovsky would love to see that

[@tripsaplenty1227]

@@raydog0483 who is that?

[@thesovietduck2121]

​@@tripsaplenty1227 russian composer, people learn about him in high school

[@tripsaplenty1227]

@@thesovietduck2121 i might have known who he was 20 years ago. russian composer names? yeah that random info is long gone. If he was Austrian, German, Polish, Hungarian, or Italian I'd probably know him. I only know European composers.

[@nemesisurvivorleon]

​@@tripsaplenty1227Tchaikovsky and Chopin are the best classical composers.

[@MontyRL]

Radioactive Radars are a crucial piece of equipment that modern nations utilize

[@pufthedragonCCS]

Not to be that guy, but counter battery fire goes back to at least the Napoleonic wars.

[@Rynewulf]

its the modern academia problem: something only exists when someone important enough publishes a paper or book on it, regardless of how long a thing has existed in practice. So counter battery fire has likely existed as long as artillery batteries have (its an obvious reaction: shoot back at the guys shooting us), but some WWI desk office general coined the modern phrase so they get the credit for 'inventing it' (similar thing happened with WW2 general Guderian claiming to have invented most tank tactics himself)

[@KingsandGenerals]

The problem is definitional, I guess. Yes, cannons did fire and counter fire for centuries, probably even before Napoleon, but the modern iteration is different. It is about the radar systems and such which allow to pinpoint the location the fires are coming from.

[@CodeineRadick]

Radar detection was a thing?

[@taylormccauley860]

Basically once the guns got big enough we’re you can’t seem them firing true counter artillery methods were created

[@thurbine2411]

Or at least as far back as mid-late 1800s when guns got longer range and could fire at targets that weren’t in los(not only because of walls and such like old mortars but because of range)

[@michaelfoye1135]

Good explanation of counter battery fire. But what is country battery fire?

[@asylumlover]

KEEP THE BATTLE TACTICS COMING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@olusegunakintunde6297]

I love this page.

[@DV1287]

It can even date back to the civil war asw. Counter battery fire was present at gettysburg

[@ThePatrioticTurtle]

That’s where the tactic was born, from the chaos of a battlefield

[@user-wx8nq9xh1p]

Counter battery fire needs reconnaissance, if there is no reconnaissance methods then it is called an artillery duel.

[@TheDude50447]

Interesting story i heard is that during desert storm there were cases of the allied troops having counter fire in the air before the iraqis first salvo had even landed

[@jeroylenkins1745]

Indirect fire was first developed during the Boer war

[@josephsalinas5405]

I guess they forgot forward observers existed when they listed the reconnaissance planes.

[@burgerdan4936]

Sorry about this, but is that a typo on the banner? Country Artillery, or am I just pronouncing that wrong?

[@JohnnyRico118]

Country Artillery yee haw!

[@iamover9000yearsold]

I'm imagining Dolly Parton giving bombardment coordinates to the tune of 9 to 5

[@mr.skidmarks1034]

I really hope you do some more vids on mordern battles and tech❤❤

[@One4I5]

Now there's drones. Totally different battlefield.

[@herptek]

Both firing enemy artillery positions and any flying objects like drones get detected by radar. Some modern counter-battery radars can be integrated into the air defence network as well.

[@selectthedead]

Ah, but in the end you don't need any of that high tech stuff, just Microphone arrays to calculate trajectories.

[@lukefiggins6851]

COUNTRY ARTILLERY 😂

[@shadow2000]

And then you have the CAESAR who can shoot and go long before it ever being possible to know they have shoot

[@bigsarge2085]

💥

[@FIJIKILO0]

Hasn't "Indirect Fire" existed long before WW1. I'm sure mortars existed for centuries beforehand.

[@petergray2712]

Technically, indirect fire was invented with the Catapult in the early Iron Age.

[@ferwiner2]

@@petergray2712 bow and sling are both capable of indirect fire as well, especially when the target is large, like in case of infantry formations

[@khartog01]

Recon

[@unbearifiedbear1885]

Technology is moving fast.. the battlefield is quickly becoming a "digital only" domain Glad I'm not in a uniform anymore

[@motow3031]

Russian artillery alsha significant CB and EW artillery also no shells renders everything irrelevant. Russi acoustic system

[@davidarnold2456]

Country fire?

[@dbunik44]

I'll take drones for 500 Alex, the future is drones

[@darealbukchoyboi]

Who knew military men focused on CBT (counter battery tactics) ever since the First World War 🤣

[@505sa_7]

i see the autor never heard about 2K25 Krasnopol

[@monkeyman2074]

He's aware for sure, Russia has just been using massed artillery lots more than precision guided munitions which Ukraine has been seen using more, that's where the comparison comes from, it's not some anti Russian propaganda just because it's stating facts

[@mr-makko1026]

Please, next time pronounce B more clearly. As CP and CB are two completely different things as you know. (A slight more pressing on the B will clear it out) Thank you.

[@swiftmatic]

Counter-battery artillery fire goes farther back than WW1. There are numerous instances in the American Civil War, and I have no doubt that similar tactics and techniques were used as far back as the Thirty Years War.

[@user-wx8nq9xh1p]

Correction at those periods there was no way for artillery batteries to definitely spot one another and that is called an artillery duel, counter battery fire requires reconnaissance methods, thus increasing accuracy.

[@stubbornviking8548]

“How Country Artillery Fire Works”

[@jw8160]

World War I? They didn't have radar or UAVs. At least not in my timeline. 😋

[@biffbidderman8164]

They had planes for aerial recon

[@jw8160]

@@biffbidderman8164 Your point? I didn't say anything about planes. I said radar and UAVs.

[@herptek]

​@@biffbidderman8164Balloons and blimps can also be used for observation.

[@raydog0483]

​@jw8160 did you miss the "continues to evolve today" bit after he talks about WW1 CB?

[@jw8160]

@@raydog0483 for something to continue to evolve means that it existed before the evolution. So what did radar and UAVs evolve from? It would have been nice if they expanded on that.

[@ahnafahmed9545]

Uninformative video.

[@Gman909008]

Doesn’t really explain what it actually is/how it’s done

[@richiesmith223]

As a field artilleryman you missed alot of important information.

[@KingsandGenerals]

It is just 1 minute. Can't really jam in much more.

[@CA999]

​@@KingsandGeneralsyou got my attention! But I don't have 30 to 120 minutes for 'detail'. I am not going for an exam on it later! 😮

[@richiesmith223]

@@KingsandGenerals It's still a fantastic video.

[@richiesmith223]

@@KingsandGenerals Artillery is precision guess work done with unreliable data provided by people with questionable knowledge.

[@napoleonofthefrench]

Pin 📌

[@JamesJohnson-md6oh]

Warno edit...

[@HoneyLover64NthngHppnd89]

Ukrainian CB is so ineffective that Russia have to use older soviet, WW2 artillery pieces and artillery pieces made by russia smegkalka Russia is clearly winning guys 😂😂😂

[@raydog0483]

Did you see that one BMP turret slapped on a truck trailer? I got a kick out of that one, and probably a bigger kick than the gun itself can put out 😂