How Darth Sidious Became Such a Deadly & Powerful Lightsaber Duelist

[@Andrews__YT]

Sidious seems to me to actually enjoy lightsaber combat, too; smiling and cackling in joy, revelling in cutting loose a bit.

[@dickvandraevan1675]

He didn't he simply liked mocking Jedi for using it. He legit just didn't like sabers and preferred to use the force. He thought Jedi weak for having to rely on sabers

[@Andrews__YT]

@@dickvandraevan1675 That's fair. Certainly in character for him to enjoy beating Jedi at their own game, so to speak

[@Sandlund93]

@@Andrews__YT He had been hiding in plain sight for decades, waiting basically his entire life to cut loose. That´s why he was having the time of his life in the duel against Yoda. But he also respected his "little green friend", especially after that Force Push. That´s why he attempted to flee, it was simply the wiser decision. But when he was hindered he had no choice but to go all out. Might as well enjoy a fight to the death, it may very well be the last thing you ever enjoy lol

[@PinkyJujubean]

He was anticipating the moment he sliced them in two.

[@HCBailly]

I feel like Sidious detests lightsaber dueling so much that he learned how to master it, solely for the purpose of ending duels quickly, so he wouldn't have to spend more time on it.

[@Jedilord882]

People often forget that one’s innate force capability has a profound impact on their lightsaber performance. With Sidious’ obscenely high level of force sensitivity, this translates into an extremely potent form of force enhanced condition, which essentially means Sidious can move quicker, react faster, and hit harder than the vast majority of his opponents. He’s stated to be so quick that untrained eyes can only see the silhouette of his red lightsaber when he’s in combat.

[@dereklopez9060]

It would've been satisfying to see Palpatine kick Rey's ass with his lightsaber since he mastered all 7 forms. But you know Disney.

[@darylsdesigns6679]

I can see that, though knowing Sidious, I doubt he’d waste time dueling someone with little to no saber training, especially since he favored Force abilities over physical combat

[@nodatastored684]

That's what I expected all they did was X-Men stand around and use powers

[@nathanjones8475]

With push ups, sit ups and plenty of juice.

[@Arohan71]

@@alsimmonshellspawn6021 the whole franchise is generic regurgitating of the classic Joseph Campbell heroes journey and even the original Obi Wan hated it. Stop taking this so seriously

[@jakeh1199]

To be honest, by The Rise of Skywalker, most knowledge of Lighsaber Combat would have been lost due to Order 66 and Luke Jedi Acadamy being destroyed. Luke tried to recover what he could but after his exile, only Darth Sidious had any real knowledge of any/all Lightsaber Forms. Rey would not have lasted very long and even Luke at his Prime might have failed, as even in Legends during his first fight with the Lightsaber, Sidious won with Luke later relying on additional help. Rey only defeated Sidious with the Force because numerous Jedi Knights/Masters and the Chosen One (Anakin) helped.

[@Doctor_Bamias]

I think two important factors are the obvious: The years of intense training under Plaigues but he also had very favourable genetics, considering that he had a very high midichlorian count

[@WeirdOftheWhiteWolf25]

This is a excellent breakdown of what Sidious did with his knowledge of lightsaber combat. I find it a better explanation of his style than to simply say he just was a master of all forms of lightsaber combat. Instead, saying he understood them well enough plus utilizing a defensive form in a random sequence that was hard to discern for 99% of opponents and then being able to switch to a aggressive form that he used his vast Force potential to augment the form, makes more sense and less Mary Suelike...

[@chakotaymunsami7741]

Sidious must have done a lot sparring sessions with Darth Plagues

[@MattAlbie]

I was going to say. Usually to get good at a martial art you have to spar a LOT with people better than you. Not exactly a lot of options during Rule of 2. Unless Sith magic is just automatic or whatever and you're just magically good

[@pwn0nfire180]

He was a master of juyo, making him unpredictable is how he overcame the jedi masters so quick in his office

[@chawwnayala532]

It was the scream that dumb founded the Jedi

[@jakealter5504]

He mastered all seven forms

[@crazymulatto8981]

Form 7/Juyo is my absolute favorite out of all lightsaber styles just for the fact that it's an insanely aggressive form of fighting.

[@Jedilord882]

He used an assured strike on the first Jedi Master meaning he also had Mikashi mastery

[@pjjohnson7318]

Love all you analytical videos. Especially the ones that focus on Dooku and Sidious. I would push back on two points: 1) That he has not mastered all forms of lightsaber combat and that he’s dangerous due to his speed. Source material says he’s a master of all seven forms and I’d be inclined to believe that. There is a narrative amongst some in the fan base, especially since the force council podcast with the KZbin Star Wars versus series was released, that Sidious is not actually skilled but simply fast. The best rebuttal to this is his duel with Mace Windu. According to the novelization Sidious and Windu reached an impasse once Maxe sank into Vaapad. This implies that once their speed was equal they continue to fight with no real end in sight. This means that in terms of pure skill Sidious and Windu were dead even. While Sidious is faster than most duelist he’s also more skilled than they are.

[@thanghoang3198]

In the movie, Sidious clearly fell on back foot once the duel went to the large room.

[@pjjohnson7318]

@@thanghoang3198It is true that Windu definitely pressured Sidious. I will say, the movies also say that Sidious is a 9 while windu is an 8.

[@ZootedUchiha]

This is why I love the way he fights.

[@jeremyk.6456]

I honestly think Sidious uses precision and high levels of skill because he is able to literally toy with multiple opponents with the exception of Yoda. He was very precise in his strikes and movements in order to show his true power over his opponents in the force by being so old and able to be acrobatic, nimble, aggressive, defensive, and lethal at a split seconds notice. The only way an opponent would be able to actually fight him in a lightsaber duel would be to completely put themselves into the force and hope that they had enough will/power in the force that the force wills that persons victory against Sidious.

[@bencarignan2711]

I wish they didn't bring him back for Ep 9. If they had made Snoke to be Darth Plagueis, and had allowed him to remain the central antagonist, it would have tied things together soooooo much better.

[@efwewfwef1549]

ep 7-9 never happened.....

[@jonathanhampshire6856]

@@efwewfwef1549 from a certain point of view. 😁

[@bullravenproductions]

Plagueis died in episode one… Sidious always came back in a similar way to the movies in Legends.

[@efwewfwef1549]

@@bullravenproductions plagueis did NOT die in episode one!!! palpi just told anakin a "story". so who the hell knows what really happened. they could have easily brought him back!! but since disney butchered the sequels in every possible way i pretend the sequels never have happened. and the legends version of palpi surviving was stupid too and no reference for a genuine good written story!!

[@bullravenproductions]

@@efwewfwef1549 This channel has several videos that confirm he was. I believe he specifically quotes from the book Plageuis. Sounds like you’re just a whiner considering you are willing to change the history and deny any portrayal of Palpatine. Calling him Palpi is as dumb as your opinions.

[@pullo5518]

Nice video, I think your analysis is spot on. I read in an official book that darth maul learned and mastered niman and juyo. So it's safe to assume sidious favoured and mastered style 6 and 7.

[@TheShadow14150]

“You learned how to dance, sarcastically” -Will Farrell

[@DiegoTheRebel]

It's funny how Palpatine thinks dueling is stupid while being skilled at it. It's like how Terry in "The Other Guys" practiced ballet when he was young so he could make fun of people who take ballet.

[@amondodamole1473]

Also, with Windu, he found out really quickly that he could not toy with him like the other dualist...if Anakin wasn't there for the assist, Windu would have surely finished him off.

[@Eleolius]

Nah. Not a chance. Sidious would have just rolled to the right. And instantly have won the duel via casting 1,000 Clonetroopers. (Sidious, like Dooku, could use Force Fly and could have survived the drop just fine.)

[@carys3501]

I'm not saying Sidious is a better duelist than Windu, but I feel pretty strongly that Sidious threw the fight. He had to put Anakin on the spot to make an irrevocable choice between saving Sidious' life (and therefore Padme in his mind, and the sith) or saving Windu(and therefore the Jedi). I don't think that Anakin walking in on Sidious standing over a decapitated Windu would have had the same effect. It's already pretty clear that Sidious was holding back with his force lightning as he was prodding anakin to choose.

[@JL10007406]

Lucas said that Windu won the fight. Sidious was looking at Death Star schematics when the Jedi walked in. I think we can say he was not expecting guests and that he lost the fight.

[@alfredtineo3023]

Sidious threw the fight. He could have killed Windu in the beginning of the fight. Read the book. He was buying time so Anakin can arrived

[@BeHoly10]

@@JL10007406 Correction he said he won the duel the lightsaber duel stop saying he won the fight as a whole this is the same George Lucas who said he could have struck down mace windu whenever he wanted in a fight to the death aka (in the force)I swear to God fans use this man as a source not knowing he says a lot of things just to keep from having a debate.

[@Matt-pn1ce]

Plo Koon vs Sidious would be a very interesting duel , I think that electric judgement would be very difficult for palpatine to deal with . And it is doubtful he knew he had this ability, he was stunned when yoda absorbed his force Lightning so it is clear palpatine underestimated certain jedi . He even was arrogant against Jocasta seemingly because she was the Jedi librarian

[@Blazeyblazeyblaze]

It would be interesting but sidious would slaughter plo however I really like plo

[@benpezzot8805]

Plo is very powerful but he would have still lost to palpatine pretty easily

[@Blazeyblazeyblaze]

I think dooku vs plo would be a great fight near equal in my opinion

[@danieldavis6288]

I don't think electric judgement would make a difference. He might surprise him with it once, but that's all. Plo is strong, but I doubt he is fast enough to keep up. He can hit like a truck, but he is much too cerebral to pace a wiley devil like Sidious one on one.

[@hudinisnooop4637]

@@Blazeyblazeyblaze u guys don't know nothing🤣

[@Chavez510]

The hello fresh sponsorship got me. The way you said it

[@lorusvasnormandy3730]

never really was into Star Wars till I found this channel keep up the good work love the channel and have recommended it to a lot of my friends

[@Sandlund93]

Connection to the Force and rigorous training is one thing but what completely changed the game is when he became the senate.

[@MikkoAPenttila]

Oh yes what might the ewoks use for nutritious protein with so many soldiers of the empire, dead and alive, stranded on their moon? "Hello Fresh!"

[@JamesJones-mt9co]

I'm also going to explain to you the drill that Darth Sidious is used when learning form three called Falling rain. As a Sith Lord of the Bane lineage Darth Sidious would learn the drill falling rain after the years of developing his Force attunement and what this drill is : practice form three while tapping into the dark side and not one drop of rain is allowed to hit them once this form three is mastered this is when a sith Lord will go and learn the other six lightsaber styles. So what makes Darth Sidious an extremely powerful lightsaber duelist is really simply put it it is his Force attunement when the force attunement is high it is much easier to master lightsaber combat

[@a.d.clarke4990]

9:20 yes. I always thought that was pretty solid evidence he threw that fight, as he sensed Anakin was on his way. That should have been game over, but it didn’t serve Sidious’s purpose to kill Windu then.

[@MattAlbie]

George has said that Mace legit won the fight. Discussion over.

[@ericolsen5592]

When Samuel L. Jackson signed on to doing Star Wars, I believe he said something like "As long as I don't die like some sucker". So of course, Mace Windu got to face down Sidious himself. But it makes it really funny to hear the fight choreographer say "you're a sucker if you think you're gonna get the best of him"

[@bizmasterTheSlav]

In the end, Lucas kept his promise to Samuel. His character actually defeated Sidious in direct combat, but got killed because of treachery and betrayal, which is not "suckery". Sidious didn't get his sith name because of his combat power, but because of his talent to deceive.

[@TheMrWolf]

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[@amondodamole1473]

Thank ypu for pointing that put that Sidious lost that duel with Windu..some people think he did not but form 7 Vaapad was Windu's spealaty and it's a sith's or dark force user nigjtmare because he can?tap in the darkside and use it against them. Not many master this form

[@skarkshark152]

I fell asleep during this video and when that outro song came on i nearly shit my pants

[@andrewsowl8696]

While I agree with you about the style he uses… I’ll tell you just how he was so good… force enhancement. You can be sloppy with the blade if you are just so fast and strong that it doesn’t matter. He doesn’t need to be good enough with a blade… he just has to be fast and strong enough that it doesn’t matter

[@ojebol4774]

AYO nobody talking abt that sick outro?

[@matthewkalasky2891]

He did a lot of push-ups and sit ups, and he drank plenty of juice.

[@darkmatter6280]

That ad segway 🤣💯 they should pay you more bro

[@captainfach]

Is it just me or is this the quietest video anybody's ever heard in their life? I had to kick it up like 20 notches

[@rocker54_86]

As a young fan, watching the prequels for the first time, I always felt like Sidious was holding back against Windu. While I agree that Windu is one the BEST duelist amongst the jedi of his time, I believe that Sidious WAS in fact winning against him, only taking the dive when he felt Anakin's presence approaching (obviously to coerce Anakin to the Dark Side).

[@justaregularguy115]

Nah, he was losing against Mace (Mace was redirecting his dark force power back at him with his own added energy) and in a romantic stroke of fate (and possibly the will of The Force, Anakin shows up and provides an opening for Palp.

[@rocker54_86]

@@justaregularguy115 Fair point

[@ElKabong3345]

The Rule of Two Sith were ALL powerful at everything. This is because IF the Apprentice before them found them weak at any subject? That's where the Apprentice would strike them to kill them. Naturally, even Plagueis and his master were master duelists, because if they weren't? The Apprentice would have killed them that way a loooong time ago.

[@taranbaze1448]

Around 7:00 you say form 7 isn't comprised of memorized sequences but it is, or there would be no light side equivalent.

[@DarkKnight-tq5mr]

So essentially Sidious is a mixed lightsaber duelist like a real world mixed martial artist.

[@darylsdesigns6679]

Technically, Sidious also lost a duel with Luke Skywalker in Dark Empire, though Luke was empowered by Leia’s Force Harmony ability, which allowed the young Jedi to keep up with Sidious’ speed and power

[@DeathScepter]

keep in mind that Luke did defeat a Top Tiered Sith Lord within Darth Vader and There is a good reason why people feared Sith like Darth Vader. Also Luke has the same potential as Anakin and Leia is the same. I am not shitting on Darth Sidious because He is the main reason why Clone Wars reduced the Jedi Order was a success and Success of Clone War in the eyes of Sidious and thus in the fog of War made Order 66 work so well with Clone's Success against the Jedi Order. Even the best of Jedi can tired out and their defenses can drop and easier to kill

[@Canbilly2]

@@DeathScepter I'm going to have to partially disagree. Danger sense is a very basic/fundamental force power that ALL force users learn. It's not hard to keep it up. Having said that. I agree that SOME jedi would have fallen to order 66 easily. The younglings, the very beginner Padawans, and MAYBE some newly minted jedi knights. But all the rest of the jedi, the mid teir knights, the high level knights ready for their master trials, and full fledged masters would have and should have sensed the betrayal instantly and eliminated their immediate threat. Just like Yoda did on Kashyyk. Again, there are levels and the execution of that in the clone wars was lacking. Example: Plo Koon was arguably as good or the same at being a starfighter pilot as Anakin Skywalker. It was well known that he was one of the premier fighter pilots in the galaxy. There's no way in hell that he should have fallen to the clone fighters behind him. His danger sense would have alerted him way before the clones attacked. But no, Lucas had one of the most powerful Jedi Masters of his time go down like a chump. Just doesn't make sense. It doesn't jive mang.

[@DeathScepter]

@@Canbilly2 Jedi are still Mortal, extremely talented mortal. I do think Lucas's point that even the best of us can still fail and get hurt or die. Hk-47 and Atton from Legends did explain how to kill jedi

[@Canbilly2]

@@DeathScepter there are certain ways yes. And in the EU there were some ways too. But they were/are very contrived ways. I mean, they literally had to create a race that was immune to the force to present a challenge to the force users in the galaxy. And even then, quite a few jedi masters, like Luke and his family, Corran Horn, and others, were able to hew through them like melted butter. Sure they are mortal. But the most powerful of them could essentially become immortal by becoming one with the force. The could effect things in the living world from being a force ghost or sith spirit. But like I said. I only partially disagree with you. The Lower level force users makes sense. But force users like Palpatine, Yoda, Kenobi, Anakin, Kloon and a myriad of others would have sensed something is wrong like Yoda.

[@anthonymontgomery2727]

That's legends. Great story dark empire

[@AEROStrik3]

This was the most fanfic video you’ve made

[@piercelindenberg6842]

What do the Ewoks eat on Endor? Dead Imperials.

[@k-3402]

Vaapad is the bane of a Sith Lord's existence

[@DjBaapreB]

So sidious prepared for battle with hello fresh.

[@benpreece333]

Call for Papa Palpatine! Demolishes 4 jedi*

[@ejrodriguez2656]

Right in all points. Sidious wants to lord over his superior skills over the Jedi which is way toys with his opponent using Nyman, once he has had fill he finishes them with Juuyo. Sidious takes Nyman and Juuyo and takes them to they're most extreme levels then utilizes them in a way in which Nyman is the ultimate shield and Juuyo being the ultimate sword.

[@pullo5518]

Well said

[@bizmasterTheSlav]

It's ambiguous if he was toying with Windu (that time when he had his blade pointed at Windu's chest), because I believe he couldn't strike Mace in the chest because Mace would simply parry that and kill him, not because Palps was toying.

[@jakealter5504]

@@bizmasterTheSlavhe wasn’t toying with windu as far as lightsaber skills go, he might’ve been able to win with the force though

[@theperfectbotsteve4916]

1:14 the ewalks clearly ate the guards it has been shown they will cook and eat humans and there was an abundance of dead troopers easley avaliable

[@Gamerafighter76]

Leave it to Sidious to make his opponents feel helpless against him.

[@mkb4560]

What would make a good series I think would be about Darth plagues and him training sidous

[@venkelos6996]

I think I can agree with this. On the one hand, certain sources would imply that the Forms are a product of the Jedi, and so Sith who were nor trained by them would lack them, but I feel if you know you are going to battle someone, and you want to win, you need to understand how they will fight you, and how they expect to win. My usual tripping point is practice; how did Palpatine HONE his skills? I've seen videos where content creators discuss Sith using training droids, or even dueling rain, if you will, so I know somewhat how even Banite Sith can get dome practice in, but I seem to recall Plagueis preventing Sidious from even having a lightsaber for a number of years into his training, and the Sith Lord, himself, was somewhat dismissive of the weapon. Once Palpatine was doing important, or at least visible, stuff, it just seems like he would have found it hard to get a chance. Several of his lightsabers were very well hidden, in wats that showed they weren't intended for typical use, and even his main one wasn't always on his person. He obviously had properties, and off-book sites under his alias, so I guess he could have had training facilities elsewhere, but since we never see them, or hear, and since Darth Sidious rarely had to come to blows with foes, it just always amazes me that he's still so talented. He's dismissive of lightsabers, and knows that the Force is often weapon enough, since he us willing ti weaponize it, and while we see him pwn Maul, and Oppress, and he later beats Windu, these are all much later. He didn't train with Plagueis much, nor could he tussle with even middling Jedi, for fear of revealing the Sith, so it seems it would be tricky to find places to test his training against something actually threatening. He could go to Sith sport worlds, or have his own facilities, I know, but these just didn't seem like things he spent much time on, and since so many other "gifted" people, in other media, practice daily, the fact that he didn't sort of makes it seem forced. My opinion, of course.

[@jakealter5504]

One slight correction there, sidious actually lost the fight with windu

[@MrRich2u]

Let's face it, The big Sid was a Mary Jane. He was a 60- to 70-year-old human who could go head-to-head with a 800-year-old Yoda. A species known for their immense force abilities and uber high Miti chlorine count. Yoda had the highest ever recorded by the Jedi...The Plot armor was powerful in The SId...

[@marcusisgod2592]

Darth krayt or darth bane please. Cin drallig or luke skylwalker, you could do those to.

[@Blue-Blazes]

I would love to see Duncan McLeod from Highlander take on great grandpa palps.

[@Jive.]

Ah yes hello fresh, totally not dead stormtroopers 🍗

[@ariesstorm9577]

Darth Sidious, like all Sith Lords of the Rule of Two lineage, mastered Fast style, Strong style and Juyo. I would say he mastered Juyo to the same degree that Mace Windu mastered Vaapad. Of the other two styles I would say that Sidious has a clear preference for Fast style, relying more on speed, precision, footwork and acrobatics to overwhelm his opponents as opposed to the more static hack-and-slash moves if Strong style.

[@frankh.5942]

Not exactly germane to this video, but I want to note - Kenobi, too, bested Savage and Maul single-handedly in TCW…injuring Savage and causing Maul to have to force push Kenobi away so that they could flee. I bring this up to say: if we’re going to quote soloing the two of them as one of Sidious’ “most impressive dueling feats,” then I think it’s only fair that we point out Kenobi did it, too… Too many people sleep on Kenobi. Kenobi and Sidious are the only two lightsaber wielders ever to solo Maul and Savage and walk away unscathed.

[@frankh.5942]

I do appreciate Stupendous including a clip from this duel around 5:20. But as the defender of the master of trolling, I felt compelled to make a greater point out of it.

[@kalikiller1771]

Here I was expecting him to say the ewoks ate stormtroopers

[@WeirdOftheWhiteWolf25]

I thought for second you were going to say the Ewoks ate the stormtroopers they slaughtered, which in hindsight, I think they actually did...

[@b.msabol8551]

I would personally call shenanigans when saying Palpatine was a deadly duelist. Sure he's competent and capable of teaching any form, but his strength was in the force. And someone of that caliber could be considered to be under constant force augmentation such as speed, strength, and stamina. He was fully capable of becoming a serious lightsaber duelist but blade mastery was deemed beneath him. Maul almost outmatched him on Mandalor in swordsmanship until Palpatine ultimately fell back into force use

[@b.msabol8551]

@@damaskholdings9140 I don't hate Palpatine. I just think he's overrated and praised as the best. And I'm not referring to standard force enhancement like bursts of speed or jumping. He's basically the avatar of the darkside, and his enhancement would be constant whether he himself knew it or not. Think of battle meditation without being drained after or preparing for it, but it's always in effect. That's what I was implying. Blade to blade though, he's too arrogant & and full of himself. Vader, Maul, Grievous, and especially Yoda all could have wiped the floor with him if sorcerery didn't come into play

[@datboielijah1234]

@@b.msabol8551 lol

[@b.msabol8551]

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[@zincwing4475]

If you ask me, it is because Sidious is the most dark side character in Star Wars. (Read: most evil). That makes him stronger with the Force and more dangerous in every way. There is no nuance, no compassion, no mercy. More importantly, he actively seeks out ways to hurt others, and life around him. He doesn't just act in his own interest, he wants the suffering and harming of others. He is a sadist, and that might well be the purest evil. An hypothetical example: if some sort of Force genie-in-a-bottle offered him power, a dozen galaxies to rule however he wished, and all the darkside knowledge he wanted, in exchange for freeing them, he would not take it, at least not in good faith. Because he would still share the universe with this strange entity, and he would never grant a single being, especially one so powerful, their freedom.

[@tomcross3000]

i actually disagree with the "niman" claim. i think palpatine mastered most aggressive forms. ataru, djem so, juyo, makashi chiefly and probably niman too. and he fought every fight like he was fighting for his life, except ofcourse when he was throwing one. what else did he do? he turned his body into a weapon, practiced all martial acrobatics until he was unnaturally agile. so he was extra. on the twirling sabers, it says alot about his playful demeanor and how he loves his toys, it also is a useful tactic to keep his blades moving around his core target zone to react to any incoming swing. there's a cunning practicality to it.

[@jaredquinney204]

I was always curious about this

[@curtislangford3181]

Good analysis!

[@ggarzagarcia]

We need Sith lightsaber wars: Darth Bane vs. Exar Kun vs. Tulak Hord vs. Darth Revan vs. Darth Vader (Anakin) vs. Darth Sidious Who wins? Analysis? What’s our ranking?

[@Gum167]

Vader at every disadvantage here. He couldn't even move most of his body.

[@EAWanderer]

11:56 - Evil! 😈 Maybe cos of this figting style alone is why he can be deemed - Unpredictable and a very dangerous man, A true dark Lord of the Sith! 😁⚔ - If you like

[@williamlaw2963]

Storm Troopers. The Ewoks ate storm troopers. ("An entire legion of my best troops..") They weren't preparing Luke and Han for a spa day.

[@mkb4560]

Try to imagine a dark side Yoda fighting Sidous

[@treiwilson9445]

If I couldn't do that. I would go with Niman/Jar'kai and shien

[@a.d.clarke4990]

That guy was pretty clear. He concurred with Plagues, Sidious is a master of all seven forms. By definition he’s not just a master of forms 6 and 7 then, he just prefers them.

[@marcthompson2027]

I kind of disagree with this. If you go back to Darth Bane and when he was learning how to duel, Bane was taught not just master 1 style but many so he could switch sequences at any given point in the duel. Yes, he was made to master one style that best suited him, but was mad to learn and master the rest. He passed that knowledge down to his apprentice and so on and so forth. So I do believe Darth Sidious was a master of all 7 forms, Niman was the one that best suited him first.

[@hibs5516]

The Ewoks ate the storm troopers after the destruction of the second death star. Han, Luke and Leia were there when t he at was happening.

[@joeymassey9770]

He didn’t beat Yoda in lightsaber combat. In the novel it says Yoda won the lightsaber duel he just lost when it came down to using the force. So no he lost against Windu and Yoda

[@Jedilord882]

It really shouldn’t surprise anyone this is the case. Windu has a form intricately designed to counter dark side practitioners, and Yoda has nine centuries of experience.

[@Zippism]

Palps got the high ground, abuses Yoda with it. When Yoda finally got to him(by makijg the same move Anakin did jumping UP to the pod Sheev is on), Palps blasted him off the pod and onto the senate floor.

[@BJETNT]

Not that I am an expert but this makes sense!! I thought this myself but it was just a guess!

[@DynV]

It was mentioned that Sidious used lightsabers to insult rather than kill; I assume wearing down someone while showing one have the upper hand does just that.

[@jamesedillor6053]

Hey #thestupendouswave I just realized something about the clone wars since you brought up mail and his brother that scene took place during order or just before the republic came in to mandalor to kick out the death watch group

[@treiwilson9445]

I would add makashi, soresu and shien to round out form 6 and 7.

[@zerosystem2393]

Before watching the video I was like oh cool we get to hear about the hellish training sidiuous went through. After watching the video... it's Sidious is a prodigy. So essentially he's just good...😑. I guess that is an explanation,but it feels kind of hollow to me.

[@Just_Pele]

What did the Ewoks eat? Storm Trooper, medium rare.

[@jw1415]

The Jedi are unrelenting...We must hurry and vote to grant emergency governing powers to the Honorable Chancellor Palatine...He will end the war, and bring peace to the galaxy...

[@JoniukasVader]

Force Practice

[@Arohan71]

Niman would actually be perfectly fitting with Palpatine loving to insult the Jedi in subtle ways. Niman was the diplomats form. For the Jedi it let them get the combat skill they needed but focus on the force. Of course Sidious, a politician, would twist that philosophy.

[@SqueezeLift]

Makashi + soresu is OP af

[@teresworrell7973]

Technically he lost the lightsaber duel to Yoda

[@kiokiyuudoku4274]

Sideous threw the fight. He literally broke the window to get rid of the murder weapon. If he is so powerful in the force, you think he didn’t know anikin was coming. Nothing hardly surprises sideous.

[@BULLETPHIL99]

Sidious is powerful but he’s not some omnipotent god. That’s why he struggled against Windu and Yoda, who are champions of the Jedi order. Even though Sidious has more raw power than Windu, it was a bad match up because of Windus Vaapad, which excels against dark side users.

[@treiwilson9445]

I think Shi cho, makashi, djem so/ shien and Niman/ jarkai would be forms of choice.

[@reckszkingzactivitiesrkat.4134]

Darth Sidious 🔥🔥🔥

[@theguy4407]

Mace windu is goated

[@trevleisner]

Yo did Stupendous say "Jedis" at 6:55?

[@kibagundam]

Is it just me or is the audio on this channel epically quiet

[@srh2494]

The Ewoks ate the stormtroopers. I thought this was common knowledge.

[@chaosorder4011]

Btw he definitely lost in the light Saber duel with Yoda it's why he fell back on force powers

[@doneldinkins7413]

So, did the sidous “lose” to mace as a ploy to finally win Vader as an apprentice?

[@apank21]

more analysis and evidence/support for sidious' chest hold on windu ? windu seems to b in control is another explanation ? or some die hards may think ? ~9:30

[@chadarcher13]

Sidious didn't lose to Mace... he took a dive in order to turn Anakin... this has been confirmed

[@Strafuzz]

Not according to George Lucas

[@the1andonlytitch]

Why does a random Mace Windu pop up at 6:29?

[@mentallo1329]

All I remember about this video is the Hello Fresh 😐

[@TheStellarmanCo.]

Sidious lost in his duel with Sidious, Yoda actually disarmed him, they don't show that scene, then it was a Force battle which was a stalemate

[@abenice]

Facts I was wondering if anyone was gonna mention that

[@apollyonkatastrefia1586]

The ewoks obviously ate the captured stormtroopers.

[@dach829]

So drunken master style

[@Kezzy-nm1fc]

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[@jackstraw522]

U at the channel say he’s only a master of form 6 lore says all 7 forms. The lore wins

[@joshuahenderson3444]

This is why i think Palpatine lost to Mace Windu on purpose cuz he knew he was more powerful than Windu he was just toying with him prolonging the duel long enough for Anakin to arrive he couldn’t beat Yoda bc they were equal but i think he was powerful than Windu

[@jahaerystargaryen4527]

PLEASE, can someone tell me the name of music playing in the backround

[@matthewjones9237]

Did you just hit us w/ an AD? You truly have fallen to the dark side. 😕

[@aevenova9780]

We all know the ewoks ate any and all imperial survivors