How Defy Took Advantage Of Our Fans - SmoshCast #24

Ian, Joven, and Lasercorn take a break from their apocalyptic battle and chat about the worst Smosh Summer Games punishments of all time, that one time Ian was banned from meeting Barack Obama, and the awful business call Defy made that took advantage of our fans.
ALSO IN THIS EPISODE:
4:51 - Don’t Follow Joven If You’re Triggered by Typos
8:56 - Joven & Lasercorn On The Beginning of Smosh Games
17:21 - Suck-Dys-Toe-Pia and Other Awful Summer Games Punishments
35:22 - Ian Wasn't Allowed To Meet Obama
37:02 - Why Ian Shouldn’t Get Married
45:22 - Joven vs. Ian: Who Would Be The Better Dad?
48:25 - Where Do We See Smosh Games Going?
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[@ethancampbell5916]

I hate to be this guy but I wanna see Board AF come back. I love board games and I’ve bought/planning to buy many of the games that have been featured. I would love to see like Cryptid, Rising Sun, Evolve, Mice and Mystics, and so many other awesome games.

[@mechadoggy]

I just wanna see more Betrayal at House on the Hill, Batman: Gotham City Under Siege, and/or a long series or stream of Smosh going through a complete Dungeons and Dragons campaign with Damien as dungeon master

[@adamramos3217]

Ethan Campbell there's a Batman board game called Gotham City Chronicles that I would love to see them play. That or the Funkoverse game being released... just something... I would love to see Board AF come back

[@HelloItsMikkan]

Yes... I wanna see some more Peter Tacomotttoooo

[@maggiedavis8223]

would love to see them play Pandemic they would all have to work together

[@kamards]

Watch geek and sundry table top it's addictive and makes you want to buy board games.

[@SolderingIron7]

"Don't use my mortal name." - Lasercorn

[@beeplesneep]

David*

[@draisens]

DAMN!!!! This is the first time EVER in Smosh that Laser was referred to by his real name. GO DAVID MOSS!

[@MonkeBrain07]

@@draisens They called him David a few times before. Well, not really call him, just refer his real name in a conversation.

[@draisens]

@@MonkeBrain07 omg - really? Thanks for clarifying that for me.

[@MonkeBrain07]

@@draisens I can recall Mari saying his name was David twice. Once while explaining why his name is Lasercorn and the other when she told her friend about Lasercorn and accidentally calls him by Lasercorn which made her explain the tatoo thing.

[@YourInternetPandaFriend]

Ian's voice is perfect for podcasts/radio, it's calming, low without being rumbly, and just makes you feel welcome to a conversation that you're not even part of. We must protect him.

[@pamelah1220]

His voice is fluffy, if that makes sense.

[@YourInternetPandaFriend]

@@pamelah1220 YES.

[@ShyGreenBean]

I see defy shade, I click

[@lelag4049]

ShyGreenBean lmao, that’s what I did 😂

[@puthygrip656]

Are you on tik tok?

[@PaxIesus]

Mr. Rogers was a pacifist Presbyterian pastor. He never went to war. But Bob Ross WAS a master sergeant (Air Force), and after he left the military, he said he didn't want to yell ever again.

[@jasonorefice8122]

Pax Romana he was an MTI

[@timkinsley6203]

Mr Rogers was a Marine Corps Sniper. It was released in the 1993 Presidential Classified Documents Review.

[@ultrabigfella]

It sucks that Defy never actually cared about any accounts. They took over Smosh, Game Theory, and Warp Zone. All these accounts have second channels and other channels. They were just money hungry.

[@asdflkawj2165]

I don't think they ran Game theory, they just worked together.

[@alejandramejia483]

SmellyTheBluCow OwO yeah because game theory felt like it did have some amount of freedom

[@alejandramejia483]

Like un business like but not immature

[@asdflkawj2165]

@@alejandramejia483 no, like Game Theory (the channel) straight up wasn't a part of their MCN, but MatPat wtill worked with them.

[@TheeGrandmasBoy]

Defy is that ex boyfriend that smosh can't stop talking about

[@mechadoggy]

And I hope they keep talking about it

[@cwolf201]

@@mechadoggy same here

[@TGIZhivargo]

ikr lol

[@hrishiv27]

Defy is the psycho ex that shot Smosh in the shoulder, and walked out with their life savings. I think that earns a couple of anecdotes.

[@audri1273]

Does anyone actually want them to stop??

[@KBD1999]

I know they have a big cast, but bringing back Lasercorn, Mari, Sohinki, and Joven for cameos or permanently would be great

[@RouxAroo666]

Mr. Rogers was not in the military, he was a life long pacifist and Presbyterian minister. The rumors often say he's covered in tattoos covered by his sweaters, that is a lie, he took off his sweaters on multiple episodes of his show and had no tattoos.

[@kittikat4124]

Laser Samurai I don’t doubt that Mr. Rogers wasnt in the military, but my Grandfather is a pacifist and always has been, to the point when a guy punched him in the face in front of a cop he just said “do you feel better now?” And the cop asked if he wanted to press charges, my granddad said no. However he was a mechanic ona ship in the Korean war, I believe. Just putting this out there. My grandfather is and always has been a pacifist, but is also a veteran and anti war

[@gingycakes7608]

@@kittikat4124 mr Rodgers never served though. He worked for the TV company and that’s how he landed the gig for Mr Rodgers

[@cass12234]

I honestly thought SGA was just live streaming with Flitz and Fan INTERACTION with bonus content, not an actual MCN. Wow, yeah that did not go well

[@ChickenNug2964]

Dam Matthias from team edge just got called out by smosh

[@SaphireEblem]

Any 69 likes

[@skullytheskully]

I found smosh through board AF, and im still watching those old videos. I'd love to hear why that died!

[@deadpool1996]

SkullTitsGaming because of defy media most likely, but now that they’re apart of Mythical Entertainment I thought they’d bring “Board AF” back by now tho

[@idc5309]

Probably will at some point, maybe they are still trying to bring everything back up to speed, summer games was a huge step in getting things “back to normal”

[@mechadoggy]

Board AF died because it probably felt like an obligation to the Smosh gang to have to make a video every single week on it. I’d really like them to go do Betrayal at House on the Hill (with or without Peter Akimoto), Aye Dark Overlord (with Damien as Dark Overlord given his voices technique), Batman: Gotham Under Siege, or maybe even a video series covering a Dungeons and Dragons campaign

[@STALKER777LK]

Lasercorn is literally Regina George with the holes in his crop top where the nipples are hahah #trendy

[@imdad1284]

That is so fetch

[@STALKER777LK]

@@imdad1284 Omg, totally!

[@allie_maj0590]

The sad part is, Joven’s recent tweet even had a typo 😂

[@abbyc.904]

I saw the title and was like "what, how did defy take advantage of me?"

[@larrythelatypus]

the Game Bang intro was always the catchiest shit ever and yall should bring it back

[@cuetherain3699]

I LOVE board af, it’s what made me start watching smosh games

[@aurorawright4242]

Dyslexic people are usually smarter, and yet we still have Joven

[@STALKER777LK]

That's really relative. However the joven joke was funny

[@MonkeBrain07]

He came up with Board AF so there's that

[@iq0.589]

You should definetly bring board af back. That is still my favorite series from Smosh games

[@emilystorm8624]

*Petition to get Lazercorn a bra for the rest of Summer Games*

[@deadpool1996]

Emily Storm they’ve already filmed all of the episodes tho

[@jazzyclassics772]

Never let the Wes rap die! 😂

[@weenie263]

WOOT Literally didn't realize I was early until I saw all the comments were only done 1 minute ago XD

[@Pleaseleavemealoneooga]

Same

[@ashleyywongg]

Joven hasn't been on much of SG lately I like seeing him here on SSG, Lasercorn too

[@trinity9889]

Nobody: Literally no one: Lasercorn: *smacks butt* LaSaGnA

[@jazzprime2010]

36:42 "you mean future president Joe Biden?" Wow, well, i guess Joven borrowed Damien's powers

[@prettyshinyspaghetti8332]

And they declined the invite bc of the idea of meeting Biden. Hilarious

[@CactusJackIV]

I am a huge LazorCorn and Damien fans, but Tea is stacked!! The power of the streak will have to be strong this go round. Go SHROOMS!

[@rymemen]

"And now we have a predator in the white house" when i tell you i scrEAMED

[@mechadoggy]

There’s going to be lots of spicy tweets from fans about that part

[@willowkunkes2742]

I usually watch them but Im traveling today so I listened to it first and I felt so weird just listening 😂

[@quinnsebastian3487]

Ik this might be asking for a lot but can we please talk about flitz and what happened?

[@cattyghostly7414]

He's doing his own things now.

[@quinnsebastian3487]

@@cattyghostly7414 I know but he posts a lot less constant and I don't want him to come back but at least acknowledge him

[@TheQueenOfStupidity]

Quinn sebastian yeah, I think its private dude

[@ashley302]

Mr. Rogers in a blood stained sweater. This is the ultimate showdown, of ultimate destiny.

[@LavenousForever]

There is a little Cartman on one of the cliffs at Casa Bonita

[@paitynannwright6157]

Joven: Don't get over four dogs. Me: Oops, I have six

[@akiahara]

The Bob Ross thing is true, he wasn't into the attitude. But Mr. Rogers wasn't true, it was just a rumor. He always wanted to do kid's programming.

[@AprilOceanBlue]

I'm getting Ultimate Showdown flashbacks "Mr. Rogers in a blood-stained sweater"

[@deadpool1996]

April Miller I think that’s Thursday

[@notdylanspack]

I get jealous of these guys cuz they’ve developed a strong bond over the years and as more people have come in to smosh the more that bond begins to show and it’s rare to see that continue for such a long time and it really shows with Olivia always expressing her love for the smosh crew and Keith saying there’s no other place he’d rather be it just makes me happy to see that everything they went through with defy and everything they were able to stay together and I think now have gotten stronger than ever

[@rgazsy8366]

I am now glad that I ignored the typos that sometimes occurred when Joven replied to my comments on his channel. I just assumed that it was from trying to respond to as many comments as he could and I appreciated it. Heck I take my time and try to proofread my comments and still make a lot of mistakes without dyslexia. Have to appreciate their dedication.

[@laxku]

Dude I wish you had asked me to be your casa bonita tour guide when you were in town. Denver is a fun place and I would have loved to watch your reaction to our finest dining and entertainment experience.

[@peppa_jack]

I 100% agree with not having a wedding. I'm a woman who would rather spend that money on a home or something that lasts.

[@cavidnabili]

Matthias didn't create a channel called Doep or Nope he changed his channel name to Dope or Nope because it was the a thing they did pretty often

[@Manxsee]

I like how this whole podcasts is just crabing on defy.

[@zainanwar9281]

please bring board af back, i absolutely loved that show

[@blue_avocado4086]

Growing up with Casa Bonita, it is always hysterical listening to people talking about discovering it for the first time.

[@TomBydand]

sees title. puts on a long sleeved shirt specifically so he can roll up his sleaves and go fight defy.

[@cass12234]

Ian forgot the name Oven for Joven (when The Rock called him Oven on Twitter)

[@sarcasticbrit3492]

And Mr. Bronze, or, more controversially, Mr. Platinum

[@cass12234]

@@sarcasticbrit3492 Bronze Player or Mr. Platinum

[@sarcasticbrit3492]

@@cass12234 That's the one, been a while lmao

[@ann0b3lla15]

I've never agreed with Joven more. I loved my wedding but I don't really remember it. And now I think about what I could've done with that money.

[@ginjax5104]

the dope or nope thing is a whole evolution of terminology he used to theme his videos. i remember when he did his first few dollar store videos it was "worth it or turd it" which is used ironically bc it doesn't really rhyme but bc he wanted to give more of his employees screentime or smth he couldnt theme his channel around himself anymore so he changed it to dope or nope which bc its a proper rhyme and the word dope is topical it was used for the sake of marketing

[@TheSnakeboy11]

that cougar painting is sick

[@yyahnapineda9243]

Man I was eating and then Joven started to talk about sucking toes 🤮

[@k_Emptyhead]

Well? Joven is now officially a dad, ❤️

[@obibwan5630]

I haven’t watched it, but know this is about to be a spicy video.

[@_greathy]

Ooooo I can't wait to watch this!!!

[@kyreirving8534]

I see smosh, I click as fast as I can. I'm literally in love with you guys ❤️

[@ioo8093]

Wait, Lazercorn's name is David? How am I just finding this out

[@mechadoggy]

His full name is David Moss

[@HelloItsMikkan]

Do not use His Mortal Name!

[@BiLLz66614]

Mr Rogers was definitely never in the military. Just a normal happy fellow.

[@unicorns5673]

I dont think Mr.Rogers was ever in the army

[@ivyburns1329]

How are people feeling about Kimmy (be very genuine and honest)?

[@Blissful_Simp]

I like Kimmy, she seems cool

[@Paull2]

Too early.

[@marshymooo9312]

@@Paull2 Wdym by too early?

[@Paull2]

Too early for me to have an opinion. Jury's still out. Besides, even those I don't like at first I eventually warm up to.

[@missannar4854]

Ivy B. i don’t like her she kinda steals olivia’s shine and courtney’s personality and jokes (th evidence of them)

[@bernsbee184]

I finished watching Chernobyl a few weeks ago and I love how they talked about it in this episode!

[@DryBones271]

you guys forgot to mention Boze! Her first was a winter games though...

[@finalstride9756]

Jovan corn......what, you thought this was going to pg....that's on you.

[@medicorp5410]

when they were talking about the old shows I flashed back to hours upon hours of watching why were single

[@Paull2]

I always wondered how you all managed to dodge the bullet that the Fine Brothers ended up taking for that Alliance thing. Glad you didn't, though.

[@AlexYammes]

Watching this for the first time now, knowing Joven's going to be a dad-

[@artiechoker3672]

Ian looks so handsome here!

[@mechadoggy]

He’s always looked handsome

[@EpicDoggiez]

I love the Courtney and Ian host. Really great leaders

[@lawenforcer9864]

Saying Lasercorn’s actual mortal name is like saying the name of He-who-must-not-be-named. I.e. Voldemort

[@tchoate14]

Just a couple boys loving on each other. Respect.

[@pauldelay9738]

Joven has a good idea for a wedding no one thinks why spend a lot of money for 1 day when it can be spent making a lifetime a little easier

[@RavenclawsUnite]

Not only did we stay on budget for our wedding, I came in 4k under budget, so it IS possible! Mostly the savings came from getting to adjust down our catering numbers after rsvps were confirmed, but even if everyone had attended we still would have been right around 2k under.

[@DarkPhoenixEclipse]

I love the full on belly shot that happened like the whole video. Where you going LCorn? Sit at the the table properly, fam. xD You look like you were ready to run away at any moment.

[@davidh6284]

Casa Bonita is real? I thought that was a made up restaurant on South Park.

[@Blissful_Simp]

Lasercorn's been waxed twice in SSG now😂

[@pandezee]

Never forget when Joven though v*gina was lasagna

[@icelily1761]

They were talking about Joven's dogs, but I have had one question on my mind forever: does Ian still have Daisy????

[@Nemisionn]

He spoke about her in the 1st SmoshCast.

[@blazehaze233]

he still has her

[@isaknordlund7627]

Ian said breakdown and rebuild and mentioned Wiplash. But all i could think of was Fullmetal Alchemist

[@andresbelendez6008]

Dope and Nope... mmmmmmmm interesting...... I didn't knew that you started with the name you should ping mattias for an explaination haha

[@fa1ruz]

any boxman video is gem!

[@lex4302]

can we have board af back please!!

[@PepeSlake]

Anthony Padilla: Press a Like! Ian Hecox: Hit a Like!

[@rmannayr2129]

OOOOHHHH that Shade!

[@jacobcrumpton4643]

#bringbackSmoshBot! Make him happy and blame his former depression on Defy.

[@skullkid9923]

Joven and Mari win(?) the Worst Punishment Award in the whole Smosh series

[@ookamikazekun]

Mr. Rogers was never in the military. He was actually a minister before his show.

[@sisideblanc2959]

I volunteer as tribute as a girl to be in the Summer Games next year. Do I need to email a resume or a video introduction?

[@annehinged]

I agree so much with Joveb about the wedding! I wish I won't spend too much money in one night, I'd rather save up for buying house, etc etc

[@annehinged]

welp I misspelled Joen lol sorry

[@jollyrogers408]

'Summer Games isn't over. I could still scorpion.' Joven. It explains why he tried, and succeeded, in doing a kip up. He wanted to make sure he was crippled from Summer Games. Winter comes around, he's in a wheelchair. Maybe a crutch or he'll at least have a wrist brace or neck brace. Yeah

[@pr9334]

I love this Podcast.

[@JeskidoYT]

3:43 funny but weird ian. IAN WHYYY 7:08 IAN STOPP 20:30 joven this is why Ogsog left smosh 26:00 ian I'm done now 😬 29:43 lasercorn is right unfortunately 😢 36:36 Ian you missed out 46:55 funny cause joven is now a dad

[@saraa.7836]

Poor Bob Ross and Mister Rogers 😂♥️😭

[@djathcsgl]

Jovins false chord voice really grates on my insides

[@NoTime2Explain676]

I wouldn’t be surprised if Lasercorn actually did duel his wife

[@robstanley46]

I wonder how the defy people are reacting to cast members of smosh trash talking defy

[@akiahara]

I have four dogs... lol. Relationship unaffected. :P My biggest dog is also my best dog, but she's a Catahoula Leopard Dog at only about 70lbs.

[@kittikat4124]

Big dogs are best dogs imo

[@raijjiin]

Yay for free nachos lmao. Made me chuckle.

[@courtneyh7842]

I WILL have at least 4 dogs and they’ll be almost all 110+

[@yb6038]

Not even a minute in and they’re already talking about whipping out sausage

[@DanteBogdan]

I'm loving the Summer Games and I hope the Winter Games make a return this year too, they were great.

[@deadpool1996]

Dante it would be in the beginning of the year (February)

[@derekbarnard3065]

How did they miss: It's a Smosh-age fest!?!?!?!

[@johnnydoe5318]

Games were in Barstow, I was right. Beautiful area.

[@jsinmcc92]

Johnny Doe no it’s not what are you talking about this place stuff dude lol coming from someone born and raised out here lol

[@johnnydoe5318]

@@jsinmcc92 See i'm from back east, so the desert is dramatically beautiful to me, it's like an alien planet.

[@Ninja0666]

Kimmy should officially join Smosh