How Did Auto-Tune Revolutionize the Music Industry?

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@SoundFieldPBS
@SoundFieldPBS 3 жыл бұрын
We made a playlist with your favorite Auto-tune heavy tracks spoti.fi/3wyktRj This is a playlist made by Sound Field fans, thanks for your submissions.
@UnnTHPS
@UnnTHPS 3 жыл бұрын
DRAIN GANG
@ajax4887
@ajax4887 3 жыл бұрын
Apple Music?
@NPGLAMB
@NPGLAMB 3 жыл бұрын
bladee
@basic.line.music.records
@basic.line.music.records 2 жыл бұрын
Where can we apply to submit a track ?
@TheWavMan
@TheWavMan 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing, thanks for allowing me to be apart of this!!
@Yb_Jaya
@Yb_Jaya 3 жыл бұрын
The wav mannnnnnnnn
@Kuromzii
@Kuromzii 3 жыл бұрын
Wavyyy
@RENAGADEZTV
@RENAGADEZTV 3 жыл бұрын
Dope bro 👌🙌💯💪🔥
@HoodWil
@HoodWil 3 жыл бұрын
I thought u just comment on this cuz u watched it, but then u popped up in the video 😂
@djse
@djse 3 жыл бұрын
Future plugin idea : Outatune, you can sing really bad, it doesn't touch your voice, but change the tuning of all other instruments so the song is out of tune with your voice.
@djagofficial
@djagofficial 3 жыл бұрын
This is genius
@Rafael-jo9zi
@Rafael-jo9zi 2 жыл бұрын
It’s already been done kinda
@NahreSol
@NahreSol 3 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed the video - great topic!!!!
@flymypg
@flymypg 3 жыл бұрын
This episode ties in so well with the prior episode on editing classical music recordings. Why do all those takes? Is there no equivalent to Auto-Tune for use on classical music recordings? 🤨 C'mon, Nahre, tell us what you would think if such a tool entered your field, and were used on your performances!
@HomoFullyErectus
@HomoFullyErectus 3 жыл бұрын
People criticize auto-tune today just like how people criticized synths, drum machines and sampling in the 80s-90s and electric instruments in the 50s-70s. A bunch folk fans lost their minds in 1965 when Bob Dylan played an electric guitar on stage. Auto-tune can make things sound robotic and soulless. It can also be used creatively and as a way to express raw emotion.
@SoundFieldPBS
@SoundFieldPBS 3 жыл бұрын
exactly what we're trying to say. thank you!
@Metacognition88
@Metacognition88 3 жыл бұрын
Auto tune is fine when it’s used to enhance the vocals or overall song but it’s so overused. It’s gotten to the point in hip hop the entire song is auto tune and every song is auto tune. You don’t even need a actual person to provide the vocals .
@HomoFullyErectus
@HomoFullyErectus 3 жыл бұрын
@@Metacognition88 Yeah I agree. I love it when it's used to warp vocals and make artists sound weird, I find it can add a lot of flavor and personality to a track (ex: Best Friend by Thugger). I hate it when it's used to make vocalists sound like a robot (ex: Nav's entire career). That being said, the exact same thing happened with electric guitars in the classic rock era and with synths in the 80s. So this sound will fade out eventually. 20-30 years from now, it'll be some new technology/instrument that gets completely overused.
@NomSauce
@NomSauce 3 жыл бұрын
I also think the roboticness or "soullessnes" of it can be used as artistic expression as well, like it's a really versatile tool. If you only use it for one purpose only, that's when it might lose purpose and become lazy. But it has so many possibilities, using intentional robotic feeling to indicate staleness, rigidness or suffocation etc. Although not auto-tuned focus, Porter Robinson's "Fellow Feeling" is a good example of how to combine serenity with sudden, hard and robotic shaped notes to clearly indicate some sort of event ocurring (in this case its to describe traumatic experience, trapped without help etc). You can 100% do this using vocals as well, I think it's also a good way to blend the feeling of an instrument with a voice. In comparison to vocals, instruments are more often than not a lot more accurate on their notes than humans, especially when transitioning between notes. Auto-tune can also merry these two differences in order to stop a big contrast from occurring where you might not want it to exist, or the opposite, you want a really big contrast so you can use auto-tune to make that note pop out even harder or tune it to a real extreme. As much as I love singing, metal as well as Opera. Auto-tune when done well just hits different, I think japanese rock/metal/punk(and all their sub-genres) bands are extremely good at using auto-tune which was a genre I did not expect for it to work so insanely well in. Man with a Mission, SiM, Flow, Hello Sleepwalkers, KYONO, Suspended 4th, are good examples of these type of artists for anyone interested in those genres.
@Auto-Tune
@Auto-Tune 3 жыл бұрын
Spot on, Nick! Thanks!
@punkkid21
@punkkid21 3 жыл бұрын
In the 80's a lot of producers used pitch shift pedals meant for guitars among other effects to process vocals, aside from multiple takes. They also sped up tracks in order to hit the desired pitch.. Point is, the stuff haters of autotune think is true and credible, might have been heavily processed too
@CarlyonProduction
@CarlyonProduction 3 жыл бұрын
I see it all the time on live performances ‘This is what real singing sounds like’ I’m like ‘dude, there is auto tune all over that!!’
@punkkid21
@punkkid21 3 жыл бұрын
@@CarlyonProduction so true. Today, both with live with backing tracks that are studio stems and tuned live vox or the newer performances, that claims to be or strives to look live, but are really pre recorded music videos, it's sort of mandatory to have processed vocals. 😅
@CarlyonProduction
@CarlyonProduction 3 жыл бұрын
@@punkkid21 You're making me think of the recent SNL performance by Saweetie. She had super loud main vox and backing vox on playback and was SO OUT OF TIME and out of breath that the whole thing sounded like a big stew. What was insane....the comments. People are so used to trash now that they accept anything. People were saying 'at least she tried' or 'She's improving' This is supposed to be a professional performance. Yet people talked about her like she was an 8 year old girl at ballet classes. Can you imagine if professional firemen fucked up that bad? Would people say 'they are improving.....at least they tried' It is wild to me.
@TheSultan1470
@TheSultan1470 2 жыл бұрын
@@CarlyonProduction Well... shit, she isn't saving your kids, she's singing.
@kyleserafin9616
@kyleserafin9616 3 жыл бұрын
Clemony's Melodyne could easily be the topic of its own video. It requires a lot more effort from the producer but it's everywhere, tweaking and "correcting" vocal performances so subtly most folks don't even notice, Autotune critics included.
@DivinumX
@DivinumX 3 жыл бұрын
People who criticize Autotune are almost always non-producers. In my experience, Autotune doesn't make a bad singer magically sound good. It really can't be used as a crutch for the lack of skill without it being obvious. Autotune saves a lot of time and energy and reduces costs for both producers and musicians in the long run. You don't have to do 100 takes of the same line to get the perfect take. Just correct a good take with pitch-correction and move on. The outcome is exactly the same with far less work and cost.
@aaronclift
@aaronclift 3 жыл бұрын
You’re right that Autotune won’t make a bad singer sound magically better, but at the same time, modern production teams overuse Autotune to “fix” vocals - like a photo that’s too heavily edited. Whenever I hear songs like “Firework” by Katy Perry or “Fly Away” by Lenny Kravitz, I know that Autotune was used because everything sounds too perfect, too in tune. I hear a similar thing happening with drums that are run through quantization algorithms in order to get the beats to be more “in time,” and all that happens is that the performance ends up sounding stiff and loses its human feel.
@DivinumX
@DivinumX 3 жыл бұрын
@@aaronclift It's important to look at pitch-correction is 2 ways: a practical device to save time or a device for artistic expression. I think the conversation completely changes between the two. I was mainly referring to the more practical use. But, the respond to your point, I think that just depends on the type of music being made. I believe there's a strong correlation between heavy pitch-correction use and instrumentals with a lot of production or synthetic tonal elements. In these scenarios, it can feel like the vocals are a leading synth among the backing track which then calls for perfect pitch because the rest of the song is in perfect pitch. I find my own use of pitch-correction drastically decreases with music that's being driven by quieter acoustic elements. I'm not saying you're wrong in your opinion. I agree that a lot of music has much to gain with pitch-unaltered vocals like Adele's new single (Adam Neely and Beato did neat pieces on this) that's driven by an accompanying acoustic-like piano. I even love Kid Cudi probably because of how good his hooks are even while being largely out of tune. I just think that many people look at pop music as being easily digestible and easy to listen to. Perfect pitch-correction and quantization is pivotal to achieve that.
@calisongbird
@calisongbird 2 жыл бұрын
@@DivinumX I am a pop vocalist. Pop music was plenty easy to listen to and digestible for decades, pre-AutoTune - when performed by talented and often trained vocalists who could sing mostly in key. I agree with the above commenter that it’s way overused these days, to mask out of tune or flat out bad singing. I think there’s artful use of AutoTune when used selectively and with restraint. But when overused, it squeezes all the life out of the vocal performance.
@JogBird
@JogBird 2 жыл бұрын
i just hate how it sounds
@Drstrange3000
@Drstrange3000 2 жыл бұрын
That is the issue. It erases the imperfections and rawness of music. A little bit of adjustments are okay, but having a lot of songs being overly edited erases something for me. Heavy auto tune is also grating to my ears. It sounds like nails on a chalkboard to me.
@Rezyon
@Rezyon 3 жыл бұрын
3:56 ”Notice how Cher’s voice sounds inhuman; robotic-like.” *Shows the part where the effect isn’t being used*
@SoundFieldPBS
@SoundFieldPBS 3 жыл бұрын
You can’t hear it?
@popfortyfive
@popfortyfive 3 жыл бұрын
There’s some Autotune on the chorus they played but it’s on the verse that it’s used as an effect.
@unijaner
@unijaner 2 жыл бұрын
A friend if mine, who engineered my first album told me about his uncle, also an engineer, who recorded Cher's Believe. They were all so exhausted because after 120 some odd takes of her being out of tune, they finally just autotuned the whole thing. It was the worst! It was also what made overly autotuned vocals a trend. People liked it. I love Cher, but I cannot stand that song. Within one second of hearing an overly autotuned vocal in a song, I'm OUT. Have I used it? Yes because it IS a helpful tool eliminating the need for retakes IE; money, but only on a few notes here and there and doing our very best to make it undetectable. Now, if you're Daft Punk, fine. They're robots! Anyone else overusing it, regardless of skills ( even Beyonce has overused it. Like, WHY? Obviously she's got pipes) is just painful to listen to.
@atlpeach6852
@atlpeach6852 2 жыл бұрын
I still bump all of T-Pain's music. I didn't care about the autotune backlash. He was the best to ever to do it! Plus I listened to his albums and there were quite a few songs on them without autotune.
@ruelez
@ruelez 3 жыл бұрын
Give tpain his flowers now
@SoundFieldPBS
@SoundFieldPBS 3 жыл бұрын
exactly!
@bestproducerofalltime2363
@bestproducerofalltime2363 3 жыл бұрын
Its all about technology and evolution of sound . People gon hate on everything.
@alfisdrake
@alfisdrake 3 жыл бұрын
The way I see it, good artists use tools like autotune to enhance their art, bad artists rely on tools like autotune to make art.
@kionnakelly2918
@kionnakelly2918 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@_MemeMachine
@_MemeMachine 3 жыл бұрын
The problem for me is it's hard to tell which is which
@hakeemahmadjamal7403
@hakeemahmadjamal7403 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, but with most music in the charts at the moment, the latter applies a lot more
@MM-gp9mb
@MM-gp9mb 3 жыл бұрын
I mean in the end who cares? If u think someone is bad and relys on autotune then that artist just isnt for u. Listen to someone who u like. In the end we're all just listening to what we like, so if someone like autotune robotic music then that's what they like, they're not hurting anybody. And the artist isnt hurting anybody either, they're just making music for their fans
@cheesecakefox7106
@cheesecakefox7106 3 жыл бұрын
I disagree. I believe art is art and it’s how you chose to view that. Music is like painting a picture.
@sabrinagibby4167
@sabrinagibby4167 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad that this exists, so I can have better explain why some songs that "overuse" their autotune bug me, while still enjoy how is autotune is used elsewhere
@chestercastillo9612
@chestercastillo9612 3 жыл бұрын
First time in this channel. I love the content. I used to hate auto-tune before. But learning more about music production, I learn to appreciate it more as an instrument than just an enhancer.
@bf0189
@bf0189 3 жыл бұрын
I never got anger towards autotune even at it's peak in the mid to late 00s. It's just a studio effect like anything else and as you mentioned the spiritual successor to vocoders and talkboxes. Using the logic of anti autotune you better remove all studio effects like echo, guitar pedals etc since it's not natural! It's absurd and ignorant. Also I love the Fela shirt!
@MaxwellKozen
@MaxwellKozen 3 жыл бұрын
*spliced together parts of 100 takes* *subtractive EQ to remove unpleasant frequencies* *de-esser* *hi-pass EQ* *compressor to catch major peaks* *another compressor to smooth out the overall volume* *very subtle distortion effect* *another EQ for colour* *send to stereo delay channel* *send to reverb channel* *filter on reverb & delay channels* “I wish kids these days could appreciate a natural sounding vocal performance 🙄”
@ЕтанДрешковка
@ЕтанДрешковка 2 жыл бұрын
Didn't get your point
@MaxwellKozen
@MaxwellKozen 2 жыл бұрын
@@ЕтанДрешковка fair, it may not have been clear. The initial list is a bunch of mix and processing steps that are probably pretty common on most vocal recordings - even on some older ones that didn't ever use autotune. Compression, EQ, Reverb, and Echo are especially common and pretty much always have been. But people will point at autotune as if it's somehow the sole offender when it comes to creating "unnatural" vocal recordings. The reality is that in most cases, recorded vocals are processed in multiple ways. So there's a hypocrisy in claiming that vocal recordings in "the good old days" were "natural."
@brookesmith6998
@brookesmith6998 3 жыл бұрын
I was so happy to see that you guys uploaded today!
@bigbyallsmay8992
@bigbyallsmay8992 3 жыл бұрын
agreed with the message of this video! thank you for highlighting the history of using vocal effects in live performances - very enlightening as someone who's not familiar with how things got to where they are here now
@soaribb32
@soaribb32 2 жыл бұрын
In my opinion, it's stupid to hate on something cuz people use it in ways that you may find kinda sus.
@captainmaay
@captainmaay 3 жыл бұрын
Feels good to have you back !
@MonsteraMami
@MonsteraMami 2 жыл бұрын
I really like the personalities of both of these hosts. It's definitely kept me watching more episodes.
@zakrilege3428
@zakrilege3428 3 жыл бұрын
I tell everyone who listens about Tpains tiny desk performance. I personally don't like autotune when it's obvious, and I'd rather hear raw imperfections in the singers performance, instead of airbrushed, homogeneous sounds. That said, autotune is like any tool. A hammer can repair, a hammer can destroy. It all depends on how you use it.
@KaisTestKitchen1
@KaisTestKitchen1 3 жыл бұрын
If you feel this way, what's your opinion on people like Travis Scott and Kid Cudi?
@OdaKa
@OdaKa 3 жыл бұрын
I don't like autotune when it's attempting to not be obvious
@zakrilege3428
@zakrilege3428 3 жыл бұрын
@@KaisTestKitchen1 I don't enjoy either of those artists personally. I've always thought Travis Scott was super overrated.
@morbideddie
@morbideddie 3 жыл бұрын
@@OdaKa yeah, used in an obvious way I don’t see how it’s any different from other vocal effects.
@MM-gp9mb
@MM-gp9mb 3 жыл бұрын
@@zakrilege3428 Overrated isnt actually a thing. If someone is huge then they're huge because alot of people like them. And your perception of u not liking them or understanding why they're liked would lead u to think they're "overrated", when in reality that artist just isnt for u. People obviously enjoy their music and that's why they're in the position they're in. Its just not ur cup of tea, and theres nothing wrong with that. But it doesnt mean they're "overrated"
@ExtraSpecialTV
@ExtraSpecialTV 3 жыл бұрын
PLEASE!!! Uploaded the song you two made on sound cloud; it sounds so good. I need to hear the whole thing.
@SoundFieldPBS
@SoundFieldPBS 3 жыл бұрын
here you go: soundcloud.com/soundfieldpbs/summer-in-the-fall
@ExtraSpecialTV
@ExtraSpecialTV 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you...🔥🔥🔥
@wayward48
@wayward48 3 жыл бұрын
Great episode! I thought I could spot auto tuned sounds a mile away. Now, I learn that it almost always on, and that they adjust the calibrations so that I can’t tell unless they’re intentionally affecting a more robotic sound. 😂 Btw, Linda can sing!! I’m ready for the album. I was getting Amel Larrieux (Groove Theory) vibes.
@MM-gp9mb
@MM-gp9mb 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, no song in the past 15-20 years is released without autotune. Even when it's not cranked up to sound robotic it's still there to polish up the vocals and make everything sound presentable.
@ghtddkc
@ghtddkc 3 жыл бұрын
So glad to see you back !
@P.L.H.The2nd
@P.L.H.The2nd 3 жыл бұрын
This is amazing video. Amazing that I've learn more about Auto-Tune than Auto-Tune itself. Such a great tool and very fun getting used to it from multiple musician and people using it as a effect/tool to make everything sound interesting Also when was that song gonna released on Spotify? I need that!
@forrcaho
@forrcaho 3 жыл бұрын
Western music has been dominated the the equal-tempered twelve tone scale for over a hundred years now, even though it is a system of compromises that renders some harmonies pretty badly. Until recently, though, most musicians have been able to use nuances of pitch to increase expressiveness (e.g. bending strings, changing the way they blow, or singing). With digital synths and autotune, the default is to lock pitches down perfectly to this imperfect system, which has never been possible before. It's not that any one song is "bad" for using these technologies, but something is slowly but surely getting sucked out of the musical air we breathe.
@catarinabarbosa2247
@catarinabarbosa2247 3 жыл бұрын
i always heard people talk about autotune and melodyne like they did the same thing so it was nice to get an explanation! if i got it right autotune adjusts pitch automatically and can give you the "robot" effect, while melodyne tells you how the note was off and leaves it up to you if and how you wanna correct it
@SoundFieldPBS
@SoundFieldPBS 3 жыл бұрын
It does get a little bit more complicated with Auto-tune pro which has some Melodyne features
@katlegolewele9882
@katlegolewele9882 3 жыл бұрын
As always we do not lament/condemn the use of a tool/thing but the overuse of it , it's about the balance & harmony/balance is the soul(insert fav alternative) of music.
@Caterfree10
@Caterfree10 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like a lot of the people who use autotune to modify their voices in their music are genuinely amazing artists, but they use it for aesthetic reasons. Lady Gaga is an excellent example of this, imo, as are many of the examples used here.
@FatesCall
@FatesCall 3 жыл бұрын
It's just the artist making their art, and It takes talent to use autotune well. When talented people use it, it can be its own style. Having happened a bit before my time, it was interesting to hear about how T Pain was (presumably, one of) the first of the craft. Thanks for the video, using brushes at the end there was genius by the way.
@lavenderbee3611
@lavenderbee3611 3 жыл бұрын
It takes talent to be a great singer and consistently sing in tune. Sure you can use it as an effect in small doses, but it should never be used to compensate for sub-standard singers.
@FatesCall
@FatesCall 3 жыл бұрын
@@lavenderbee3611 I never said it didn't :)
@MM-gp9mb
@MM-gp9mb 3 жыл бұрын
Before your time? What were u born in 2010 or something?
@MM-gp9mb
@MM-gp9mb 3 жыл бұрын
@@lavenderbee3611 Maybe to u it shouldnt be used by sub standard singers but the reality is that people are gonna do what they want lol. Your rules dont apply in everyone's life.
@Daymon_Music
@Daymon_Music 3 жыл бұрын
10:52 the song is fire.
@andyrechenberg
@andyrechenberg 3 жыл бұрын
The first effect processor I bought (Boss SE-50) I bought to get a vocoder. I’ve always seen technology as a way to expand creativity and that’s how I see Autotune. Thanks for the great video.
@chmendez
@chmendez 2 жыл бұрын
Problem is the abuse of auto-tune and using it as part of manufacturing pop stars that can't sing. Some famous "singers" have been recorded without auto-tune and it's evident they don't have the skills, because they have not trained as much as real singers.
@Lyander25
@Lyander25 3 жыл бұрын
Right well time to get the chips cuz this is gonna be a treat.
@SoundFieldPBS
@SoundFieldPBS 3 жыл бұрын
what kind of chips?
@Lyander25
@Lyander25 3 жыл бұрын
@@SoundFieldPBS corn chips because extra crunch never goes amiss... unless you're drinking water I guess
@pastense
@pastense 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! Those brushes were a nice touch!
@sonicgoo1121
@sonicgoo1121 3 жыл бұрын
I think the problem is more that it's overused. If you turn to certain tv channels you're guaranteed to hear that specific sound within five minutes. It's a cliche.
@ovadoseod
@ovadoseod 3 жыл бұрын
In studios most engineers use some form of tuning but not in the sense of hard pitch correcting like auto tune. It’s just to fix a note here or there. They do it during the editing stage of the record using waves tune, meladyne autotune but in the graphical mode to massage notes, this helps it sound natural. Some producers who work with singers will set up auto tune as an aux during the recording and get the vocalist to sing through it to let the singer know when they missed a note and get it right on the next take
@klostrel
@klostrel 3 жыл бұрын
Yoo that track you guys made.. please release it as a full song! So good :D
@gvmorais
@gvmorais 2 жыл бұрын
keep up with the amazing content! love the track in the end (:
@AboveTheNoise
@AboveTheNoise 3 жыл бұрын
Another great episode, y'all, and your track at the end is 🔥🔥🔥
@TheNeonCaster
@TheNeonCaster 3 жыл бұрын
They back! Banger episode as always
@ReyMaccOfficial
@ReyMaccOfficial 2 жыл бұрын
I honestly prefer it for Pitch correction. Comes in handy in this day and age where people want to be perfect.
@DjNikGnashers
@DjNikGnashers Жыл бұрын
Perfection is subjective to the listener. A natural vocal with slight pitch irregularities is (IMO) a much more 'perfect', emotional, and creative sound.
@chaewonsglasses
@chaewonsglasses 3 жыл бұрын
oh my goodness, hey y'all! I missed you guys! 🔥🔥🔥
@prahladkini48
@prahladkini48 3 жыл бұрын
I think autotune has become a sort of instrument, and many people criticize it for being singers cheap way to fool everyone into thinking they sing well, but the artists aren't trying to do that, but apply it in their songs to give it the signature robotic distortion
@mahalisyarifuddin
@mahalisyarifuddin 3 жыл бұрын
"the mic automatically had autotune on it" Well this fact is, bizzare, at least for an Indonesian like me where the plugin almost never been used live, one of the cause is Dangdut, a prominent genre here, with its extreme pitchbendings, would essentially screw up any automatic pitch correction plugins.
@pookalobster3
@pookalobster3 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this!! Technology is evolving so fast ppl bring their pitchforks for reverb!!!
@KordTaylor
@KordTaylor 3 жыл бұрын
This is great! Thanks for doing this great video:
@dvdsarescary
@dvdsarescary 3 жыл бұрын
that fela kuti shirt is so cool
@melquibrito9104
@melquibrito9104 3 жыл бұрын
Ooh I love this channel ❤️
@ace.of.space.
@ace.of.space. 3 жыл бұрын
brushes! what a brilliant suggestion from Linda
@256threst8
@256threst8 3 жыл бұрын
Yess!! Been excited for a new video!
@ralr
@ralr 3 жыл бұрын
I so love this show.
@CrisIvan
@CrisIvan 2 жыл бұрын
Aahhh just as when i thought about Cher's Believe at the first few seconds and it appears later on
@richmrstonestone
@richmrstonestone 2 жыл бұрын
Auto tune makes me think of low rent hip hop which makes me think of being assaulted.
@brandonburton5928
@brandonburton5928 2 жыл бұрын
I just want to pause for a second and celebrate Linda's melanin because holy shit her skin range is amazing.
@OdaKa
@OdaKa 3 жыл бұрын
In my opinion, the defense doesn't make sense and doesn't really invalidate the arguments against autotune. I generally still enjoy the old hundred-takes method of artificial pitch correction. At least with that you're getting the result of a bunch of hard work and genuine effort and human vocalization, not artificially pitched vocals. And you can definitely tell the difference between the instant-pitched vocalists and the time-crafted pitched vocalists. That time in the studio honing their vocals to get that perfect pitch and inflection comes out in performances too.
@xXChaoticRavenXx
@xXChaoticRavenXx 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah u like that cuz u don’t work in a studio. Hard work isn’t always the best way to go
@OdaKa
@OdaKa 3 жыл бұрын
@@xXChaoticRavenXx I like it because I like the way it sounds, and appreciate the work and confidence that goes into not fixing a pitchy take with pitch correction, but instead singing it over again. It sounds good, it feels good. I know there are a ton of nuanced reasons why you'd use pitch correction or autotune. Maybe they got the perfect pitch on one take but delivery was lacking, then got perfect delivery on another take but pitch was a bit off, which do you use? Why spend time and energy doing it over to get both delivery and pitch perfect? Is it even possible after the 5th time around? Can you recapture the fresh magic of the first imperfect run-through? I understand having to throw in some pitch correction on a track when you've got to pump out the b$nger in a week and don't have time to have a singer craft their performance themself. Especially when everything else on the track is sequenced and aligned in perfect rhythm and pitch, it makes sense to align the vocals perfectly, get that smooth sound for the electronically produced aesthetic. But major respect to the singer singers who actually sang what we're hearing. As a fan of music, as someone who presumably works in the studio, you can't tell me it's not super cringey when they hit the crescendo climax note and the vocal suddenly goes from sugar to splenda because they couldn't actually manage to hit the note clean even once without pitch correction in the studio. I'm like, just rewrite the song if you're gonna phone it in and let the machine pick it up... It's not hitting if you're not actually hitting it, anyway. Easier said than done, yeah, but that's the whole point, isn't it? I'd rather hear a bit of a rough but natural attempt than a perfect run on crutches. But then again, there have been many times where I was listening to a song and thought "Maybe they could have used some autotune here..." so maybe I'm just fooling myself. Like I guess if autotune is the accepted standard, the status quo, then manualtune is just something special now. All I know is, I have major respect for the process of actually singing on pitch, even if it's multiple takes stitched together. At least I got to hear a singer actually sing it.
@ReyMaccOfficial
@ReyMaccOfficial 2 жыл бұрын
I have used Antares and Melodyne before, buh I dont know why I fall back in to the native Logic Pro "Pitch Corrector" 🏃🏿‍♂️
@rei.orozco
@rei.orozco 3 жыл бұрын
Learned a lot, thank you
@brianpbillingsley3687
@brianpbillingsley3687 3 жыл бұрын
Please tell me that song at the end is available somewhere!
@KordTaylor
@KordTaylor 3 жыл бұрын
The track is 🔥 and those BRUSHES!
@RemiCardona
@RemiCardona 3 жыл бұрын
Autotune as an effect is fine. *I* don't like it, but that's ok. To each their own. Melodyne OTOH is like photoshop: it can set unrealistic expectations for aspiring artists.
@mushfonemax407
@mushfonemax407 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Sound Field, do u still have a plan to make a new dubstep video? Cuz u said it before in community post if im not mistaken
@brendaboykin3281
@brendaboykin3281 3 жыл бұрын
Great, Creatives🌹🌹🌹
@124Musick
@124Musick 3 жыл бұрын
Whatever defense was made was completely undone by that last bit with the brushes
@ishd59
@ishd59 3 жыл бұрын
Your videos are so interesting!
@BloodwolfMusic
@BloodwolfMusic 3 жыл бұрын
I clicked on this so fast when I saw the notification from you guys
@punpunpunyama9271
@punpunpunyama9271 3 жыл бұрын
i'm a huge fan of auto-tune as a vocal effect, but i can't support the usage of pitch correction to seamlessly hide imperfections in vocals. not hitting a note perfectly is usually good for bringing out the emotion in a performance, easy on me by adele is a good example of that
@catarinabarbosa2247
@catarinabarbosa2247 3 жыл бұрын
would it be possible to apply tpain level autotune to a melody on some other instrument, say a guitar solo or a wind instrument? what would i sound like, is it ever done?
@SoundFieldPBS
@SoundFieldPBS 3 жыл бұрын
Yes you could auto tune a guitar solo and have the plugin automatically correct all the notes. This is more commonly done with autotune pro or melodyne where you can single out the individual note and slide it to exactly where you’d like it. That way let’s say a violinist in a quartet accidentally plays one wrong note. Instead of having the whole group start over this could be easily fixed.
@SchoolofRockNRoll
@SchoolofRockNRoll 3 жыл бұрын
Is Nahre no longer with yall? Linda killed it tho!
@JewmangiBK
@JewmangiBK 3 жыл бұрын
WAIT THIS SONG IS FIREEEE can we PLEASE get a download?!? Or a link to stream it?!?!
@SoundFieldPBS
@SoundFieldPBS 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I’ll put it on SoundCloud
@youngconservative96
@youngconservative96 2 жыл бұрын
Y’all need to do Roger Troutman
@mandobrownie
@mandobrownie 3 жыл бұрын
Hopefully this video gets a lot of TV plays on the PBS channel, because I sorta think that the crowd that watches this series on youtube already are over bashing autotune for reasons stated in the video. But TV PBS channel watchers may not be!
@kionnakelly2918
@kionnakelly2918 3 жыл бұрын
Good point
@KirklandWilliamsWorkout3000
@KirklandWilliamsWorkout3000 3 жыл бұрын
That track is 🔥🔥🔥
@BosseCory
@BosseCory 3 жыл бұрын
I love what you guys are doing here! One critique I'd like to offer is you might want to look for some guests that can do a better job of explanations. Maybe some audio software professionals instead of just average users. As a sound engineer, I found the descriptions of retune speed and what Melodyne does were lacking a lot.
@popfortyfive
@popfortyfive 3 жыл бұрын
Roger didn’t use a vocoder, he used a talkbox.
@crnkmnky
@crnkmnky 3 жыл бұрын
👆T-Pain giving Arsenio inaccurate facts… with a musician slowly nodding with a _talkbox_ tube next to his face. 😂
@deljean
@deljean 2 жыл бұрын
I never cared for auto tune, especially when it's overdone 😖. It's honestly why I didn't like TPain when he first came out, I hated the sound🥴. But over time I got used to him. Now everyone is using it even singers which is confusing. Rappers crying using it😭😭😭🤦🏾‍♀️
@jwaggonr
@jwaggonr 2 жыл бұрын
I want to hear the rest of the track
@ZeroAnalogy
@ZeroAnalogy 3 жыл бұрын
Shout out to pitch-correction tools!
@Cal3666
@Cal3666 3 жыл бұрын
Rodger and Zapp ? With the synthesizer......
@FMSnow
@FMSnow 3 жыл бұрын
bruh i went to middle school and oberlin w elijah fox holy shit
@hamsterbass123
@hamsterbass123 3 жыл бұрын
my fav channel
@hamsterbass123
@hamsterbass123 3 жыл бұрын
which means a lot because i cant afford netflix so i main this shit
@kaitlyn__L
@kaitlyn__L 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, I thought of T-pain too.
@cinnamontoastcrunch6395
@cinnamontoastcrunch6395 2 жыл бұрын
Autotune was around since spring of 97. Got used on the spice girls album that year
@ExperienceJacob
@ExperienceJacob 3 жыл бұрын
That song is so sick!
@chicha3250
@chicha3250 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think that people hate auto-tune at all. Most of the top 10 listened artist today use it heavily. I mean, they use it as a aesthetic element making it obvious to the listener (listen to Instant Crush by Daft Punk). As a producer, I assure you that 100% of pop artists today use autotune to fine-tune songs, even conceived singers like Mariah Carey.
@olivelime9493
@olivelime9493 3 жыл бұрын
this was very dope!!
@aaronclift
@aaronclift 3 жыл бұрын
Autotune is the uncanny valley of audio effects. I have yet to hear a piece of music where I think: "you know what would make this music sound better - Autotune."
@MaxwellKozen
@MaxwellKozen 3 жыл бұрын
Do you apply the same logic to EQ, compression, and distortion?
@aaronclift
@aaronclift 3 жыл бұрын
@@MaxwellKozen no because those effects don’t sound annoying to my ears.
@MaxwellKozen
@MaxwellKozen 3 жыл бұрын
@@aaronclift I suppose that's fair.
@kaitlyn__L
@kaitlyn__L 2 жыл бұрын
There was a moment I heard it wobbling back and forth while the guy was nodding. I thought the unprocessed version sounded better tbh. But oh well!
@jig5483
@jig5483 3 жыл бұрын
i need that song NOW
@jecoeur
@jecoeur 3 жыл бұрын
I think something that should be talked about is accessibility. Obviously, from a performance perspective, showcasing a lyricist's talent with dry vocals and natural reverb is powerful and intimate. However, not everyone has access to the time or training to be a professional singer. Most people don't even consider that an end goal. Still, they may want to use their own vocals in a bedroom production to express what they want (or need) to express. With pitch corrections software like Kerovee, while an incredibly colorful plugin, it opens up possibilities that some budding teenage artist might need to find their passion and forge their way forward. I think the discussion isn't about balance, and whether or not someone "should" use it. I don't believe we can have that discussion until we can empower artists and producers by giving them space to use these tools to express themselves.
@leaveitorsinkit242
@leaveitorsinkit242 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly… singers are so used to auto-tune they will quite literally sing like it. Drummers are so used to programmed drums they will quite literally play like it (you know… dynamics capped out at 127). 🤣 Technology really informs the way we play music.
@8teenOfficial
@8teenOfficial 3 жыл бұрын
Please make a video about EDM or about Death Grips
@XoTheMisfit
@XoTheMisfit 2 жыл бұрын
I can’t stand rappers sounding like Microsoft word. There nothing wrong with pitch correction. But auto tune take the soul out the vocals and song
@darthbee18
@darthbee18 3 жыл бұрын
Also the track is soooo chill 😎😎👌✨
@rosemulet
@rosemulet 3 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU FOR THIS!
@rapfreak7797
@rapfreak7797 3 жыл бұрын
You show a picture of an Akai MPC2000xl as an example of drum machines used in the 80s?!? Linn Drum anyone?
@zichenglong6992
@zichenglong6992 3 жыл бұрын
I definitely agree that auto tune can be used for distorting voices and such. That said, what's the difference then between that distorted vocal and an actual artificial vocal? That's part of why Vocaloids became a thing in Asia as well… In what case does human voices beat artificial? So in the end I think auto tune is still mostly useful for tuning a human voice while still preserving the humanity.
@_boof
@_boof 3 жыл бұрын
It's wavey under that rag, bruh.
@oleksandrbyelyenko435
@oleksandrbyelyenko435 3 жыл бұрын
Missed you so much
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