How did Kreia SAVE the Jedi Exile before KOTOR 2?

[@100StarWars]

I changed the title of this video in my head about 50 times over... But I think this one covers the mystery as a whole! Also don't forget to tell me your ideas and theories regarding this topic!

[@mikeor-]

I agree with everything you said, man, but I still think that if there will be a KotOR II remake (I mean, there should be if there is a KotOR Remake), they should explain it more extensively, and maybe even set the stage for KotOR III, if they make that after the remakes of the first two games.

[@rayspooner6538]

Thank

[@emperormilk_]

Kreia, one of if not the best written characters in all of Star Wars

[@Ktotwf]

The GOAT

[@EricVornoff]

And lots of people miss the point of her character sadly. (Thinking she's a nihilist, etc.)

[@Filthyserb262]

Agreed !

[@ingolf82]

this is true, Kreia is a brilliantly written charcter. If thanos was writtten as well as this, maybe Infinity war would have been a good movie, if Sylvanas, the jailor and all that was written as well as this, Shadowlands might not have been a failure

[@christophergardiner5351]

She is also the best evidence that Star Wars fans are not sexist at all.

[@erlkoenig505]

It is a proof of KOTOR II's narrative brilliance that even after more than one and a half decades, people pick up the scattered pieces of information the authors have deliberately left behind, and develop new theories that change how you look at the entire story of the game. This video certainly blew my mind. I really hope there is NO remake of KOTOR II unless it's by the very same team that wrote the original story and characters. Every attempt to replicate the game's narrative without knowing what was in Avallone's and his team's mind would just do Kreia, the Exile and Atris injustice, as TOR did before.

[@Phasma6969]

Nah mate we need a remake in a modern engine. A remake, not a rewrite. Keep everything, plus the stuff which was cut.

[@route77productions]

I love how deep and complex Kreia is.

[@75JUNAKI]

I just like Kreia

[@100StarWars]

Don't we all

[@devinallen4708]

Guess the deep part was thanks to all those crazed ord mantell farmers atton brought up

[@aenxiety]

The KOTOR remake NEEDS to have references and subtle nods to Meetra, Kreia, and the coming events of KOTOR II. I wanna see the setup for KOTOR II and Revan’s trek into the unknown regions to find the True Sith laid out like a hidden riddle or puzzle throughout the whole game. I feel like that would be so cool

[@4477superman]

They have a big opportunity with the new Kotor, I hope they don’t screw it up

[@100StarWars]

I believe that would be a wise call to action.

[@Hyusa1037]

I hope they try to bring back the team for kotor 2 to finish the game the way they wanted to, the original had so many things missing, even with the rcm it's not even fully complete.

[@faros6090]

I think KOTOR 3 might have been about the exile finding where Revan went.

[@aenxiety]

@@faros6090 that was one of the ideas for it yes. I personally would like to have played as Revan and Meetra and the story switches back and forth playing as them both

[@thestanleys3657]

"no longer do your whispers crawl within my skull. No longer do we suffer beneath teachings that weakened us and now you run in search of the jedi they are all dead save one and one broken jedi cannot stop the darkness that is to come"-Darth Sion You theory is reasonable kreia is a cunning character if one route for her plans doesn't work then she'd think of another path first with Atris then the exile

[@75JUNAKI]

Darth Sion: No longer will we have to endure your terrible cooking.

[@LJ-qq8lx]

We havent had a kreia video in a while *happiness noises*

[@100StarWars]

Oh, you want more Kreia content huh? hehe

[@izzyalistair]

Pretty on point with this theory, Kreia "training" the next Darth Treya makes a lot of sense from where Atris is standing.

[@davidjam3512]

I think T3-M4 found Kreia. At the end of the game Kreia tells the Exile that Revan talked to her on Malachor V before he left Republic Space. T3 probably saw Kreia's lightsaber or Revan said she was his master so T3 just assumed she was a Jedi. Bastila told T3 to look for other Jedi if he can't find her. When T3 couldn't find Bastila he returned to Malachor V and he and Kriea left together on the Ebon Hawk.

[@crazyquirrels]

I love this theory. I’m not entirely sure that Kreia suggested the Exile be exiled, based off Kreia’s desire to truly understand the Exile throughout the game. As well as the Exile altering and changing Kreia’s own plan.

[@starlighter93]

Well, Kreia says that she suggested it. But then again... should we believe anything Kreia said to anyone? :D

[@crazyquirrels]

@@starlighter93 Truth! I was referring more to her dialogue to herself when the Exile goes to meet with the Jedi Masters in the Dantooine Enclave. The way she talks to herself, and then confronts their lies (which is the most honest we see her in the entire game save for the ending), makes it sound like she’s finally figuring out the truth behind the Exile. Like finally solving an enigma that had been difficult for her to solve.

[@100StarWars]

Well to me, we know she says exactly that - that it was her who pushed for Meetra to be exiled. She then leaves the order, trys to USE force wounds as weapon, without understanding them fully to chaos havoc as a Sith. This backfires, so she has to use Meetra, but not in the same way. Because now she wants to understand them, and thus we get the entire 'you were afraid' dialogue. It's at this point that she doesn't want to use Meetra, because her being a wound is not special as she once thought, but her nature as a human-being was special. And her goal nearer to the end was to ensure that Meetra overcome her past, and became the best version of herself.

[@crazyquirrels]

@@100StarWars Thinking it over, if Kreia was involved with Meetra’s exile (which fits her as Darth Traya at the time), it does add more to her realizations after Meetra finds the masters. She thought Meetra was unique because of her wound in the Force, but really, it was her character as a person that ultimately saved her from that wound, ultimately letting herself heal. This is why I love these games: the philosophy of the second in particular. There’s always a new perspective to view it through.

[@Alpha_Draconis20]

@@100StarWars pretty sure that the line ‘I was the one who asked her to be exciled’ is actualy cut content, so it may have been cut because of a rewrite instead of the developers simply having run out of time. She does later in the the same conversation say ‘the one you exiled’

[@Artist19]

That is a really plausible theory and one that would make sense. My guess would be Kreia at the time of the start of KOTOR 2 was just exiled by her former Apprentices.

[@FishTheJim]

Interesting theory. The thing about Kreia is she weaves lies into truth, and she is really good at it. I would start with the assumption that she is lying first and see how it fits known data from other sources. Now was she following Sion? Was Sion after the Ebon Hawk? Seeing into the future is a force ability. I would want to look again at that great exchange between the Exile and Sion at the end of the Game before the Exile's final confrontation with Kreia. Also, one my favorite fights in the Game. She is being the great manipulator and she could have learned of the events of Kotor and set him on this task even prior to her betrayal by the other two of the Triumvirate. Now given this video I would also love to see an in depth look at G0T0 and the Exchange. Thanks for the Video.

[@100StarWars]

Anything is possible!

[@RealBSantiago]

‘It is all that is left unsaid upon which tragedies are built’ ~Kreia~

[@TheCynic]

Something I dont get (maybe i missed it), is how the exile doesnt die when kreia does at the end of the game. She used the threat of their mutual death to ensure the exile followed her to Malachor, but there is no reason (I can remember) given regarding why their bond is no longer a lethal one

[@brentthorman1318]

Keira bluffed about how powerful the connection is

[@bloodraven2o1o]

The bond being lethal was speculation from the very beginning. They had no way of testing it (safely), so they had to assume its lethal.

[@nothanks3590]

Kreia is manipulating, using and lying to you the entire game.

[@jeremysteinmark2845]

Actually it’s explained in the droid planet

[@DaveFu]

Kreia's Gray Jedi wisdom: only $4.99/minute.

[@crazyquirrels]

I’d make the argument that she’s more Gray Sith, but really, she defies the whole spectrum.

[@100StarWars]

She's not a grey jedi *stares menacingly*

[@swagmaster1437]

Kotor 2 is so convoluted and i love it

[@zoguenette]

First off, LOVE this content dude keep it up im a huge fan. Id love to see a deep dive on the Dantoonine jedi council, what happened to them after etc

[@100StarWars]

Thanks! I have a whole video on this, I'll link it for you -kzbin.info/www/bejne/p4TGlJmGhqtlgdU

[@GhostRider-un9gm]

She is at the Ebon Hawks at the beginning before the game begins. When you play the tutorial with the droid repairing the ship, she is there like she is dead. And then she is at the hospital and shit.

[@brentphillips9965]

But that tutorial happens *after* T3-M4 flees the Harbinger with the Exile aboard the Ebon Hawk. So by that point Kreia could have already slipped aboard the Ebon Hawk after Sion and the Ebon Hawk's battle.

[@Chefvonbreezy]

Hands down one of my top 3 characters in Star Wars and probably the best side character in a video game. The depth they went to create such a complicated and convoluted character is so genius. I still play KOTOR 2 to this day and she continues to intrigue me.

[@lordnihilus3198]

My theory: in this theory the Revan novel is scrapped for a second. Revan wants to find the true Sith, so he starts looking for them. Darth Sion and Darth Nihilus think that Revan is the key to finding the Jedi order, so they create a beacon to loore Revan to them. Revan believing that this beacon comes from the true Sith goes to find it with the ebon hawk. He duels with Darth Nihilus and he eventually barely loses to him. Darth Sion and Darth Nihilus hold Revan in chains, but at the same time they betray Darth Traya. When she awakens she goes looking for a way out and finds the ebon hawk, she then flies off Malachor V. Fast forward and I think your theory kicks in. I think my theory makes less sense, but I do like it.

[@michaelandreipalon359]

Hmm, flawed, but it beats the nonsense of that messed up novel and its MMO successor quite a lot.

[@lordnihilus3198]

@@michaelandreipalon359 exactly, if this theory is true it needs to be executed really well for it to pass.

[@lordnihilus3198]

@Herbert Meier because Nihilus wasn't trying to kill him. Normally Revan would instantly lose, but when Nihilus isn't using his drain, Revan definitly stands a chance.

[@Zeitgeist2000]

you cant just ignore canon for theories....

[@lordnihilus3198]

@@Zeitgeist2000 uh...yes you can

[@georgesuarez8325]

Fascinating and amazing video my friend. You already know how I first found out about Meetra Surik the Jedi Exile from watching Darthycey's videos before I saw your video documentary on her. Unfortunately Darthycey's videos didn't show how Kreia ended up Peragus in the first place, it showed Kreia speaking through the force to Meetra to awake while she was in the Bacta tank and go to the medical bay and encountered Kreia

[@xendlesseax]

T3 was the the only one aboard when he fixed it and returned. The ebon hawk was known by the sith bc they tracked it. It makes sense that Kreia knew this and boarded the ship. The officer said all were dead which we know Kreia can fake. When brought aboard she grabbed Meetra and made their escape. This triggered sion to attack but since the Harbinger was crippled it took longer for the assassins to get the ship in working order. This is why it took longer for them to show up at peragus

[@100StarWars]

How did they just... track it coming directly out of the unknown regions and heading straight for Coruscant?

[@xendlesseax]

@@100StarWars During this time the sith had an extended hand across the universe. It's not hard to think that bc of T3 programming he was taking the mist direct route back home. This could have easily passed through any number of sensors.

[@mdube391]

Thank you for this great content.😃 The timeline of Kotor and TSL are of great interest. I feel there is still room for a old school rpg in there.

[@kyojurorengoku6047]

I seem to remember that it’s hk47 in the cargo hold and hk50 walks out

[@ProjectRedfoot]

This was a great one!

[@manfrommontreal]

Great episode, well thought out.

[@ravensoath]

Great video as always man!

[@Praetorian_Rex]

It's a brilliant and plausible theory in my opinion. Great video, love your deep delving into Old Republi lore!

[@MrPeterpiper1969]

Years ago I read some fan fiction that suggested Revan GAVE the Ebon Hawk to Kreia along with T3. He was on the edge of known space and told her to seek out Exile if he failed to return. Then he took a different, one person ship and continued his own mission. Kreia initially went her own way but after she realised what the Exile truly was she followed Revan's orders. By then however Darth Sion had found Exile and Nihlus wa also close on the Exile's location. The rest was largely the game story for male light side Consular/Master.

[@joshstoffel9455]

I did have a phenomenal time. Bravo!

[@zandelscomicsandcards7543]

It makes total sense to me. Great Job.

[@marklee1194]

Man, I have been playing KOTOR II for YEARS and I never knew exactly what happened before the game began. At least this video helps a lot.

[@vikuswavy5785]

Best theory I've ever heard about any star wars matters.

[@gabemoein3494]

Do we know where in the timeline Kreia's exile from the Sith takes place? would it be safe to assume that she sought out Meetra after being left for dead by Sion and Nihilus? i was always under the impression that maybe T3 found Kreia as she was fleeing Sion or something

[@100StarWars]

We do not. As I said, things contradict other things so we have to try and piece is together using limited information!

[@peteristevski3681]

This is a great video - thanks for doing it! This is something I've often wondered as well and has never been fully fleshed out. I love the richness that Sara Kestelmann brought to Kreia.

[@Cailus3542]

Oh, what I would give for a story that involved Darth Traya and Darth Sidious having a long and detailed conversation. Traya is perhaps the only Sith whom Sidious might genuinely respect as an equal and peer. Their motivations are different, but their extraordinary wisdom (for lack of a better word) and similar methods are wonderful storytelling. To this theory: I tend to agree, except on one critical point. I don't believe that Kreia personally visited Telos before KOTOR II, or that she deliberately attempted to manipulate Atris in person. Kreia's gift for manipulation is formidable, but it has limits. She couldn't be sure that Atris would fall to the Dark Side, or that Atris would act as she did, inadvertently setting the stage for Nihilus to obliterate what was left of the Jedi Order. There are too many dominoes. More likely, to me: during her travels, Kreia discovers the Ebon Hawk and T3. Kreia convinces T3 that she is a Jedi, so T3 tells her everything: Revan has been captured by the True Sith, and the True Sith are stirring in the dark. Kreia proceeds to casually betray T3, cutting the little droid loose, but not before giving the droid the name of a real Jedi whom he might find: Meetra Surik, the woman whom Kreia is desperate to find and protect. T3 (because he's awesome) successfully locates Meetra, but while en route to the Harbinger, he's attacked by a small Sith warship. Before Sion can claim his prize, the Harbinger arrives. Outmatched by the more powerful Republic cruiser, the Sith decide to infiltrate the Harbinger instead. It is now that Kreia arrives, having been tracking the Ebon Hawk all along, hoping that T3 would find Meetra. During the escape, the Hawk is hit by the Harbinger's turbolasers, injuring both Meetra and Kreia. One additional note: because of Kreia's betrayal, T3 is less quick to trust. He helps Meetra, but he waits until he's absolutely certain that Meetra is a true Jedi before telling her everything. He sure as heck doesn't trust Kreia, which deepens her hatred and scorn of the droid. He's a continuing threat to her plans, and as a droid, Kreia can't manipulate him as she would an organic.

[@brentphillips9965]

Meetra Surik was a passenger aboard the Harbinger before it intercepted the Ebon Hawk. The Harbinger had picked up Meetra from the Outer Rim to meet with Carth Onasi on Telos. That was why the HK-50 droid had infiltrated the Harbinger in the first place - to collect on Meetra Surik. Right before you fight him, the first HK-50 you meet laments that the Harbinger running across the Ebon Hawk and the Sith Freighter screwed up his plans to take her in for the bounty. On the Harbinger you can find a room that was Meetra's quarters on the ship for the duration of the journey. It's the room where you find some of your belongings, including "*Player Name*'s Armband".

[@buek14]

Mind=blown. Okay, this was a well-thought out, amazingly put video. Such makes me love Kotor even more lol.

[@OldRepublicPodcastORP]

I am here for this episode!

[@jeremiahkivi4256]

I'm gonna have to buy this game again. It was just so good.

[@Johnbrownsmarch]

She likley snuck aboard the harbinger with Sion and the sith assassins then snuck aboard the Ebon Hawk when the exile fled. T3 was tasked with saving anyone useful to Revan's cause by Carth and got the Ebon Hawk to Peragus because he felt the exiles prowess and leadership was important.

[@raspas219]

Kreia is one of the best characters of star wars universe. I would say she is a perfect character.

[@darthshako]

Kreia is my second favorite character in the entire franchise. Right behind Qui-Gon Jinn

[@100StarWars]

Qui-Gon huh? nice

[@lakaja6565]

Man I loved this game but I I’ve how deep Some of you KZbinrs have dove in

[@Kyfas7]

Dude! Big brain moment!

[@100StarWars]

*mind explodes*

[@WryAun]

I have frequently wondered how everything was set up especially how Kreia ended up in the sickbay on peragus

[@fanana6193]

Personally I think that Kreia was on the Ebon Hawk before finding the Harbinger. T3 was explicitly looking for Jedi, and at that point Kreia had started to regain her connection with the force after being exiled. So T3 found her, thinking she was a Jedi, and joined her on her journey to find the Exile. This is how she knows the Ebon Hawk is Revan's ship and that T3 is his droid, since T3 had explained it to her before the start of the game.

[@hamsters7760]

I never even paused to consider Kreia wasn't aboard the Ebon Hawk when the Harbinger found it. It seems obvious she was, contextually.

[@tophholland]

KOTOR 2 does not deserve the hate that it gets.

[@IllevaSWTOR]

There always have to be a Betrayer.

[@brydon5721]

Kreia being the ultimate mastermind of galactic events makes complete sense.

[@Steel-101]

Your video is awesome man! However I still believe that KOTOR 2 has the most confusing intro that I’ve ever seen. And I understand that obsidian had a short amount of time but they could’ve organized this better within the time they had. In my opinion, It would’ve been better if the game started on the harbinger ship and it would’ve shown the harbinger finding the Ebon Hawk(Plus it would’ve shown how Kreia got on the ship in the first place). This would’ve made things less confusing.

[@brentphillips9965]

The end makes sense. T3 flies the ship solo at the beginning anyway, so it's plausible that he had taken the ship to intercept the Harbinger and find the Exile.

[@isaiahlomeli6454]

Hmm hard to say but maybe she did bored the harbinger and then to put herself in a force hibernation she must have had the force or some of it left. I think maybe she was using it to sense meetra surik along with the information she kept compiling throughout her journey. But this is what I love about kotor 2 the mystery. They need to bring it back. I would definitely love a game where it’s Kreias life or perspective that goes up until the day she dies.

[@EricVornoff]

Yes! More Kreia vids,

[@100StarWars]

Maybe I'll make another one ;)

[@brentphillips9965]

@2:18 Did she really want to restore the Jedi Order though? Kreia has some dialogue where if you suggest that Atris is trying to rebuild the order, she counters that none of Atris's handmaidens can sense the force, and that Atris had other plans. It seems more likely that Atris's goal was to preserve the *history* of the jedi at all costs, and sought to learn Kreia's teachings to defeat them. But in doing so she became pulled into the dark side without even being aware of it.

[@MrSlinky]

The fact that kreia knew how to make holocrons in the first place is kind of amazing considering just a few hundred years later it was considered a lost art

[@Chaz-Support]

I think if they are to eventually remake kotor 2 mysteries like this need to be solved and some things need to be made more clear. I love that there’s so much mystery surrounding this story but for people who aren’t kotor nerds I can see how it can be hard to get into and confusing which is why kotor 1 was more popular overall as a game.

[@Yannis1a]

The problem with this is that it doesn't explain why did Darth Sion was pursuing the Ebon Hawk before they were found by the Harbinger if Kreia wasn't there, remeber that before comic "The Old Republic: Revan", the only thing we knew was what Kreai said at the end of KOTOR 2, the Revan left the Ebon Hawk behind on Malachor V, so the original intended idea was that Kreia found the Ebon Hawk on Malachor left with it to find the exile and was pursued by Darth Sion But after the Revan comic we know that he didn't left the Ebon Hawk behind but was capture on Nathema, so we could assume that after T3-M4 repaired the ship and left looking for other Jedi to help, they went to Maalachor V looking for information about Surik, a former allied of Revan, but they were found by Kreia who took over the ship, and what she said about how she found the Harbinger drifting in space, is clearly a lie

[@CloneScavengerVulpin8389]

I'd say it's possible and krea is a fascinating character.

[@steveskianimated6655]

Thank god you uploaded this, the events prior to/leading up to Kotor 2 always confused me, this helped me even if it’s theoretical. Kreia is amazingly written

[@Melammu0]

Always felt bad for the Harbinger crew mates

[@100StarWars]

shit happens

[@zaggy_legion8133]

The question that I pose is not entirely HOW but more WHY when I deal with Kotor 2 lore.

[@robakav8564]

awesome! great content

[@robakav8564]

also could kriea have been on the sith warship?

[@100StarWars]

Thank you! I highly doubt it, she was being hunted by them at this point.

[@piratavorak]

Crazy theory: disconsidering the mmo( which im not a big fan of, because I think the true sith would be more focused on unnatural force powers like sith alchemy and massassi in their front lines as an exemple, the dread masters brought some of it but it's only them, also the way they treated Revan). So my theory is that kreia was in the ship with T3, Revan was working with kreia, and the only way of stopping the sith was destroying the force. While he bought her time by holding back the sith. The only thing I can think of to support this theory is how she says t3 betrayed Revan by shocking him, and she has repair as a skill, so she deleted memories from t3, not t3 deleted himself. Maybe this was going to be explained in the third real game

[@danielgatford7686]

I really love kotor 2 one of my fav star wars storys and kraia has to be the ultimate charecter shes so many layers and I adore her for it shes gripped me since it was released and littrely just started a new play through of kotor 2 days ago just at Atris now that's 1 charecter I cant stand shes so pathetic so blinded by her own mind but I think I agree kraia somehow got to the harbinger then got meetra and got onto the ebony hawk cuz she would have known this was revens ship and she wanted to find reven so badly as she says "as a jedi you know true coincidence is rare" wounder how the story would have played out against the emperor if they had had kraias brilliant mind instead of skurge defo think skurge would have been ripped apart mentally by kraia the minute she senced he would betray them cuz you know kraia is the lord of betrayal that wouldnt get passed her wounder how swotor would fair if meetra took kraia to find reven

[@reven0699]

The beginning of Kotor 2 always bugged me because it never gave you a clear answer. But i feel this is a good explanation.

[@100StarWars]

[@i_boole6639]

if this theory is correct, the Kreia was controlling the board the whole time. I suggest Make a video concerning kreia's reaction to events that happened throughout Kotor 2, and how she moved the pieces on the board to keep her plan intact.

[@Slayer24s]

Hehe the game theory reference 👍

[@100StarWars]

Hehehehe

[@shanenolan8252]

Cheers

[@craigamills7276]

I love the idea. Kotor 2 is an amazing game but id love to have a remake of it where it explains things more.

[@100StarWars]

me too :(

[@craigamills7276]

@@100StarWars I adore kreia and her view on the force Ive even gone back and played Kotor 1 and had to really think about my choices.

[@thegrandduke8968]

What’s the thumbnail art?

[@100StarWars]

The thumbnail I generally made - If you're asking about the Kreia image, I don't know :( I tried to look for whoever made it, but I couldn't find the source

[@Adenla_verd]

I like your theory, I theorised like the rest of the Sith Triumvirate she could sense the Exile and was drawn to her because she was a wound in the Force and wanted to protect her from the Danger Kreia knew she would face (I think that explains their Force Bond). I couldn't ascertain how she came a board the Harbinger, I just figured Kriea found the Exile the same way Sion did, only she found her first. It's good to hear another point of view.

[@Icehead2.0]

13:00 MatPat wants to know your location!

[@100StarWars]

*let him come*

[@twinodoom]

I think Kreia had already found the Exile before the Ebon Hawk was attacked. Kreia knows of an ability that can hide her very existence from others, and mentions that the Exile would have no way of knowing if Kreia had used it on them in the past. Her interactions with the Disciple reveals that she has been using it on some of the Exile's companions as well. If Kreia had already found the Exile, she may have been waiting for the opportunity to reveal herself after the Republic, Sith, and Exchange had also started searching for her. An opportunity which she could have planted seeds to eventually draw at least one of them towards the Exile to force the Exile into accepting her training under desperate conditions.

[@brentphillips9965]

Meetra Surik was a passenger aboard the Harbinger before it intercepted the Ebon Hawk. The Harbinger had picked up Meetra from the Outer Rim to meet with Carth Onasi on Telos. That was why the HK-50 droid had infiltrated the Harbinger in the first place - to collect on Meetra Surik. Right before you fight him, the first HK-50 you meet laments that the Harbinger running across the Ebon Hawk and the Sith Freighter screwed up his plans to take her in for the bounty. On the Harbinger you can find a room that was Meetra's quarters on the ship for the duration of the journey. It's the room where you find some of your belongings, including "*Player Name*'s Armband".

[@twinodoom]

@@brentphillips9965 But what was never revealed was how Kreia was able to find the Exile at the such convenient timing. The HK-50 was there because G0t0 had directed the HK-50 units to find the Exile. The Sith that attacked the Harbinger were previously attacking the Ebon Hawk, which Kreia was most likely aboard. Almost as if Kreia intended to lead the Sith towards the Exile, forcing them into an alliance when the Sith would eventually attack.

[@davidsharpe1611]

@@brentphillips9965 The first log of the Captain of the Harbinger states that they picked passengers, ie not just Meetra. Possibly the other passenger was Kreia?

[@lordofpain3476]

There must always be a Darth Traya .

[@DmcFan1214]

Can you discuss the theory that Kreia is the handmaidens mother

[@dreadrath]

The Harbinger and its crew really were doomed the moment the exile stepped aboard what with HK-50 AND The Sith both sabotaging and murdering its crew. I sometimes wonder if HK and The Sith were aware of oneanother's actions and just decided it'd be more efficient to just leave eachother alone to get on with their mutual goal. I feel like HK's assassination protocols probably would've given him an idea there were cloaked Sith aboard crippling the ship, and the Sith observing HK doing the same thing. Must've been an interesting yet horrific few days.

[@FandomEmpire]

You are a far better content creator than the guy you punned.

[@100StarWars]

Haha

[@michaelandreipalon359]

...Love this theory! Also love wayward chess games! 13:00: I'm gonna sock your neck for saying that.

[@100StarWars]

HAHAHAH

[@KaoticWhisper]

"You should try pazak"

[@cipherx6334]

I want more Kreia and the exile. But I don’t want Disney anywhere near it.

[@nospoon3822]

Say whatever you want about Matt Pat but he has kind of a legacy here on KZbin every time someone talks about some theory. 🙂

[@platypusguineapig]

As much as I love Kriea. I still don't understand what she wanted or her goals. I figured out that she wanted to kill the force and the jedi exile was key to it. But if she wanted to kill the exile in the end. Why save her and train the exile.

[@100StarWars]

Funny you say that about Kreia's goals! I have the video just for you! kzbin.info/www/bejne/d3m4mXt6er1jgJY

[@maleexile9053]

Yes she saved me so I can create the new Jedi order oh I'm space jesus

[@whiteelephant3673]

Like for KotOR theory

[@HickoryDickory1984]

Ayyy 5th

[@HickoryDickory1984]

Ahhhhhhhhh 100% star wars hearted me

[@selwrynn6702]

In my world the Exile remained on Malacor V and trained others in the hope to eventually kill the force.

[@warrenpruitt2984]

Anybody else think kreia is kinda hot

[@deiquimera9445]

I wont say kreia is the best character ever written in the saga, because i cannot feel but guilty if i said kreia is better written than iconic characters like revan, vader, luke, mara jade... I think people often say that about her because she is the character most philosophycally explored in all sw universe, and i do respect that, but not to the point to say shes the best character ever written. Nervertheless i loved her when saw her for the first time in my first kotor II playthrough and what i admit is that she deserves all the popularity shes got because it is not seen all days a character to be so deep and complex not being in a movie or tv show, to be in a videogame who not much people has played, and even so gain so much recognition... Well that is amzing

[@Kolonol1]

I wouldn't say not many played lol

[@ahenah4647]

The Writing is so good for kotor this far but the biggest thing I hate is after the games, Revan the mastermind decides to go head to head against the emperor who last time just waved a finger to imprison Revan. Why not use conventional means like raid a weapons storage for explosives and just blow up the stronghold where the Emperor was. Didn’t learn the lesson Malak gave him..

[@JesusistheonetrueGod]

Lol@ Hate-k 50

[@OldRepublicPodcastORP]

Did Kreia save the Jedi Exile in every way a person an be saved?

[@christophergardiner5351]

In my opinion, Kreia is the best evidence that Star Wars fans are both not sexist and like complex characters.

[@brentphillips9965]

Liking *a* female character doesn't make Star Wars fans "not sexist".

[@christophergardiner5351]

@@brentphillips9965 maybe, but it is evidence of it. Especially since she is liked not at all for esthetics nor sex appeal, but for her character.

[@tweektweak3274]

KOTOR 1 and 2 are better than all the movies and shows put together