How did Mongolia Survive Between Stalin's USSR and Mao's China? - Cold War

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@christianusariewisnuwijaya9096
@christianusariewisnuwijaya9096 9 ай бұрын
Love the slogan of Mongolian economic policy "Get Rich!" It's straight to the point.
@AirborneAnt
@AirborneAnt 8 ай бұрын
And that is the worst for the human species as a whole…all that leads to is screwing over your fellow man in order to fill your pockets…that’s how animals think… me me me… The slogan should be “hey, we are all we got”…
@beepboop204
@beepboop204 8 ай бұрын
sounds like familiar rap "Get Money" line
@alexhu5491
@alexhu5491 8 ай бұрын
Gdp Inner Mongolia is 23 times higher than that of Outer Mongolia 🤫
@QWERTY-gp8fd
@QWERTY-gp8fd 8 ай бұрын
@@alexhu5491 inner mongolia is majority han chinese and more populous. inner mongolian gdp per capita is only 3 times higher than mongolia.
@neilhillis9858
@neilhillis9858 Ай бұрын
​@@alexhu5491 Why are you spreading division like a stupid child?
@milkbaologist5610
@milkbaologist5610 9 ай бұрын
tbh, Mongolia is ironically one of the least hated/ talked about East Asian countries today, despite its history of grandeur
@dylanf3108
@dylanf3108 9 ай бұрын
It’s so far in the past that it’s become forgotten. Nobody has any ancestor stories of life under the Mongols or from a battle with a Khan. Things like the Cultural Revolution, Rape of Nanking, March of Bataan, etc are all very very recent in history. People have personal/familial stories passed down from those times.
@frenzalrhomb6919
@frenzalrhomb6919 9 ай бұрын
Are YOU going to be the one to tell me the Sons and Daughters of the "Mighty Khan" that they're roundly ignored by not merely the rest of East Asia, but most of the rest of the World? Because my lips are sealed, buddy!!
@joshuabonilla3491
@joshuabonilla3491 9 ай бұрын
It's also not nearly as powerful as it once was , if was a superpower with resources like the USSR did there would be a lot more attention put on its past and a lot more propaganda and all the usual geopolitical BS we hear on tv all the time.
@forsociopoliticalstuff2629
@forsociopoliticalstuff2629 9 ай бұрын
One benefit of rarely ever bringing attention to yourself and not being very powerful in the present era I’d say. Similarly, does anybody on the global stage gate San merino?
@hugoguzman4985
@hugoguzman4985 9 ай бұрын
They won at World Conquest, and dipped out of world history. Smart move!
@donallen8414
@donallen8414 9 ай бұрын
As a tourist, I went alone to Mongolia in 1983. Obtaining the visa in Beijing was easy, and the staff at the embassy was friendly and helpful, someting very rare in any similar country. Imagine communist officials smiling and welcoming you. They had their own policies as a seperate country, and wanted to welcome western visitors. Later, I also went to the Soviet Union and the PR Poland. Compared to them, Mongolia had less police, regulations and food shortages.
@abba-Flammenfresser
@abba-Flammenfresser 9 ай бұрын
Interesting….keep going “comrade”, what else did you do there?✍🏻👨🏼‍💻📑
@Samana-Recluse
@Samana-Recluse 9 ай бұрын
Wow.. how old are you? Very interesting story. I was 3 years old when you traveled Ulaanbaatar.❤😂
@donallen8414
@donallen8414 8 ай бұрын
@@Samana-Recluse Exactly 20 years older than you 😉
@donallen8414
@donallen8414 8 ай бұрын
@@abba-Flammenfresser Three years later, I got my visa to North Korea also in Beijing. But I never made it to communist Albania 😉And then I went there last year.
@alanpennie
@alanpennie 8 ай бұрын
​@@donallen8414 I don't suppose they got many Western tourists then, or even now.
@benhooper1956
@benhooper1956 9 ай бұрын
I am quite surprised you completely omitted the Battles of Khalkhin Gol from the video as that was quite a significant confrontation that involved Soviet-Mongolian cooperation to defeat the Japanese in 1939
@WilliamSun-ne5nd
@WilliamSun-ne5nd 9 ай бұрын
I believe this video is only part 1
@stephenmeier4658
@stephenmeier4658 8 ай бұрын
Also specifically focused on Post WW2 Mongolia
@whoeverest_the_whateverest
@whoeverest_the_whateverest 8 ай бұрын
​@@stephenmeier4658then why it says "PRE-WWII" on the thumbnail
@Pazzystar
@Pazzystar 8 ай бұрын
a mindless fkn meat grinder where Zhukov the butcher showed the height of military incompetence
@egertroos-qh7hw
@egertroos-qh7hw 7 ай бұрын
​@@Pazzystaryou from Mongolia?
@caseclosed9342
@caseclosed9342 9 ай бұрын
And now Mongolia is rated as more democratic than their northern and southern neighbors…
@Game_Hero
@Game_Hero 9 ай бұрын
it's not even a contest. It's really refreshing to see how alive their multiparty democracy, freedom of press, the freedom to protest that leads to change, is in spite of being landlocked in the place least favourable to it as of 2024.
@10aerkhembileg84
@10aerkhembileg84 9 ай бұрын
​​@@Game_Herothere was a pretty big scandal about billions of dollars worth of coal being illegally smuggled into china I dont think it really got addressed that much by the government because they werr probably bribed as one does. I just see Mongolias government as puppet controlled by Russian oligarchs and chinese whatever it is. It's miles away from being called a democracy imo
@Squirtle-xm6bi
@Squirtle-xm6bi 9 ай бұрын
So called Democracy = Internal Friction + Oligarchy + Corruption If I am a merchant, I also devoted to democracy.
@dylanf3108
@dylanf3108 9 ай бұрын
@@Game_HeroIt’s because they know the US will never dominate influence wise and they will never turn west as they are surrounded by Russia and China. I think it unironically gives them a lot more freedom in there governmental structure then say a non NATO Eastern European country has for instance.
@jonvro4022
@jonvro4022 8 ай бұрын
@@Game_Hero​​​⁠​⁠only if you view it from the outside it looks like that. But if you actually live within the country it’s different. No journalist is willing to investigate any politicians. It’s essentially a mafia up in the political scene. On the Corruption Index, we are more corrupt than China. Only recently the People’s Party is making strides in trying to beat corruption.
@ZZ-oc2eb
@ZZ-oc2eb 9 ай бұрын
Man I put off your videos for about 3-4 months now. Beforehand I use to wake up and watch your videos while making breakfast for a long time. Great to see you again!
@dotz7616
@dotz7616 9 ай бұрын
What kind of breakfast do you make?
@JoDusepo
@JoDusepo 9 ай бұрын
@@dotz7616Tsampa
@ZZ-oc2eb
@ZZ-oc2eb 8 ай бұрын
@@dotz7616 thanks for asking dotz. I usually like a breakfast with eggs. Whether it’s scrambled eggs with cheese and turkey slices or fried egg sandwiches or even a omelette. Fills me up the most where sometimes I don’t need a lunch before work. How about yourself?
@thebadstation8416
@thebadstation8416 8 күн бұрын
​@@dotz7616 you never answered his question
@elendal
@elendal 9 ай бұрын
Mongolia is such an interesting country. Looking forward to the next episode!
@alex4863
@alex4863 9 ай бұрын
Thank you Cold War, I’ve been asking this for the longest time. A legendary country that’s rarely thought of in modern history.
@alexhu5491
@alexhu5491 8 ай бұрын
Do you know the difference between the ethnic groups of the two Mongolias? Outer Mongolia is composed of Khalkha tribe, Genghis Khan's vassal tribe, Khalkha tribe have no blood relation with Genghis Khan. Inner Mongolia is composed of Altan Urugh tribe, the true descendants of Genghis Khan😏
@neilhillis9858
@neilhillis9858 Ай бұрын
​@@alexhu5491You feel the need to speak so much on every comment because your points are weak, mind is weak, and principles are weak.
@alexhu5491
@alexhu5491 Ай бұрын
​@@neilhillis9858 Do you live in a parallel world?
@alexhu5491
@alexhu5491 Ай бұрын
​@@neilhillis9858Why should you be ashamed? You should be proud to be Khalkha, you don't even have blood ties with Genghis, it's true 🤦
@alexhu5491
@alexhu5491 Ай бұрын
@@neilhillis9858 Child why are you sad? Isn't Inner Mongolia's GDP 23 times higher than Outer Mongolia's? Are you not Khalkha? Altan Urugh,Chachar, golden family, Genghis Khan tribe don't live in Inner Mongolia? 🤷
@jliller
@jliller 9 ай бұрын
I was literally decimated by David's statement that language evolves and meanings change, but I'm feeling 10% better now.
@Game_Hero
@Game_Hero 9 ай бұрын
"literally"
@jliller
@jliller 9 ай бұрын
@@Game_Hero That's the joke.
@kcnmsepognln
@kcnmsepognln 7 ай бұрын
I read your comment before I watched the vid, so when I heard "it", I did genu-lol.
@francis9469
@francis9469 9 ай бұрын
My living history group, Soviet Affairs, portrays the Mongolian Peoples Army, 1936-45. It was really great to research.
@1984isnotamanual
@1984isnotamanual 6 ай бұрын
What is a “living history group”? Sounds interesting.
@francis9469
@francis9469 6 ай бұрын
re-enactors, but with a stronger lean into political and cultural histories. were not really there to play with guns, but teach a period of history.
@1984isnotamanual
@1984isnotamanual 6 ай бұрын
@@francis9469 wow that’s cool! Do you guys have a website or something where I can check it out?
@Prororo
@Prororo 9 ай бұрын
Mongolian people’s revolution was very complex but I think baron ungern should have at least been mentioned
@gadaadyn8190
@gadaadyn8190 8 ай бұрын
It was about communist Mongolia and Baron Ungern was anti-communist plus he committed war crimes against refugees in Mongolia
@Cancoillotteman
@Cancoillotteman 8 ай бұрын
@@gadaadyn8190 The point is that he brought the mongolian civil strifes to the forefront of Soviet concern. But I get the scope of this video was mostly to focus on post WW2
@wolfgangallanalhazred802
@wolfgangallanalhazred802 9 ай бұрын
Glad to see an episode on the MPR!
@samkugatano1053
@samkugatano1053 9 ай бұрын
I am a little surprised that Tyva's case is not mentioned. It was also a more or less nominally independent state, but in 1944 it was incorporated into the USSR. Apparently, it was not supposed to generate so much friction with China (and Japan). I hope you can explain it in a future episode on Tyva.
@luckykentucky4039
@luckykentucky4039 9 ай бұрын
Amazing quality videos. Keep up the good work!
@peerpede-p.
@peerpede-p. 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for this oversight, much of it I did not know before.
@tahseen812
@tahseen812 8 ай бұрын
This video arrived at a perfect time as I'm planning a trip to Mongolia this summer. I think the USSR had an obsession with having some buffer states especially since the USSR and before that the Russian Empire were invaded multiple times in history and without having any natural barriers that protect the vast area of Russia which makes them vulnerable to any invasion. They were happy to keep Mongolia as a buffer and maybe a satellite state as a barrier between them and China. Also, this explains why today's Russia is fighting hard to push NATO away from its borders simply because it happened many times in history that they were invaded, this explains their paranoia about having a hostile power on their doorstep. Anyhow, I can't wait to see Ulaanbaatar for the first time! Thanks for the video!
@varana
@varana 8 ай бұрын
To be fair, the times Russia suffered major invasions, pales in comparison to the times that Russia invaded their neighbours. That we even talk about Russia in proximity of Mongolia, is the result of colonial expansion and imperialism; actual Russia is quite far away from Mongolia.
@tahseen812
@tahseen812 8 ай бұрын
@varana so what do you suggest here? To give away Siberia and the Russian far East to China or the USA to make you happy? I truly can't believe what you wrote. Would you say the same thing about Israel? Would you ask them to leave the land of Palestine that they stole from the Palestinian people? It's not only imperliasm but colonisation and occupation at its worst!
@Number1Irishlad
@Number1Irishlad 8 ай бұрын
Oh my gosh YES! Finally someone else talking about Mongolia's Cold War history! It's so damn fascinating, can't wait for more!!
@ZZ-oc2eb
@ZZ-oc2eb 9 ай бұрын
Plz make a podcast! I need to listen while driving or at work haha.
@Game_Hero
@Game_Hero 9 ай бұрын
I mean, you can listen to this without watching it. That kinda counts.
@ZZ-oc2eb
@ZZ-oc2eb 8 ай бұрын
@@Game_Hero yea that’s true but already knowing his edits are pretty good makes it feel like you’re missing out.
@AK_14564
@AK_14564 5 ай бұрын
They have also called the cold war. It is actually the blue leaflet in front of him
@ZZ-oc2eb
@ZZ-oc2eb 4 ай бұрын
@@AK_14564 on apple podcasts??
@ZZ-oc2eb
@ZZ-oc2eb 4 ай бұрын
@@AK_14564hi do you know if it’s on apple podcasts??
@patrickdegenaar9495
@patrickdegenaar9495 9 ай бұрын
How on earth do you collectivize nomadic herding??? Wheat production is pretty challenging in the Mongolian Steppe.
@stefanodadamo6809
@stefanodadamo6809 9 ай бұрын
In theory it should have been a mostly burocratic process by which production (of meat, milk, rugs etc) should have been organized into more or less "voluntary" cooperatives on a geographical district base, and thus better streamlined, and where possible, giverln some modern means... In practice it must have been a violent improvised mess, predictably meeting violent resistance.
@MetricImperialist
@MetricImperialist 9 ай бұрын
When has reality ever stopped communists from implementing their 5 year plan?
@bobbarista
@bobbarista 8 ай бұрын
It is easy. Most of the livestock was in the hands of few very rich people. So the government confiscated the herds and put them in negdels or collective farms. So the formerly poor people herded them but got paid. You obviously could not sell or slaughter the livestock. It was a job. Northern Mongolia close to Russia is very fertile and green. So the growing wheat is very possible.
@alexhu5491
@alexhu5491 8 ай бұрын
Problem is desertification, 1945/2024 72% of the grasslands have become desert, Outer Mongolia has no money to stop desertification. Agricultural production in Inner Mongolia is 768.06 billion kg of (wheat, rice, soybean, corn)
@patrickdegenaar9495
@patrickdegenaar9495 8 ай бұрын
@@alexhu5491768B tonnes of grain is a lot!! If it can produce so much, why didn't farming occur there in the medieval period? i.e. why did it remain nomadic?
@andyreznick
@andyreznick 9 ай бұрын
Thanks, David. I knew almost none of this. Schooled!
@thomasjaggers3576
@thomasjaggers3576 8 ай бұрын
Mongolia survived as it always had. On fermented horse milk.
@TheSipherArcher
@TheSipherArcher 8 ай бұрын
You guys are awesome. Amazing history teachers. Thank you.
@Norr42
@Norr42 8 ай бұрын
These are great, cycling though all your stuff well done appreciate the hard work
@albertarthurparsnips5141
@albertarthurparsnips5141 8 ай бұрын
I’ve taught quite a few Mongolian citizens. In demeanour, comportment, & sympathies they have proved to be invariably, & very comfortably, aligned with ‘all - things ‘ Russian ( previously Soviet, of course ). Alike to Zhovkov’s Bulgaria, they also shared the distinction of requesting formal admission to the USSR ( no less than twice, I believe ). Alike, too, to the immediate south - easterly neighbours of the PRC, ( Vietnam ) the animosity they very frequently harbour for the PRC is visceral.
@michaelowino228
@michaelowino228 9 ай бұрын
Good video.
@boilingwateronthestove
@boilingwateronthestove 9 ай бұрын
They didn't even try to fake it. They went straight for the 100%
@zelphx
@zelphx 9 ай бұрын
"WREAKED" havoc, not "wrecked".
@TheMagicLemur
@TheMagicLemur 8 ай бұрын
Surprised this video doesn’t mention the decisive battle of Khalkhin Gol in 1939. Fascinating history though.
@glif1360
@glif1360 8 ай бұрын
Finally, someone talking about Mongolian history! I couldn't find a word about it in either Russian or English.
@gantulgaganhuyag717
@gantulgaganhuyag717 9 ай бұрын
We paid a horrible price to keep the independence. My grand grandpa lost his life during the purge for being "intelligencia"
@IanArthur-fb4br
@IanArthur-fb4br 8 ай бұрын
Same here, even tho my great great grandpa was very wise man and the one who helped the country stand against the Qing dynasty, they stigmatized our blodline "pyodol" and started hunt everyone. Same with my grandpa's mother side, they were buddhist lams :/
@alanpennie
@alanpennie 8 ай бұрын
​@@IanArthur-fb4br It's a sad story.
@alexhu5491
@alexhu5491 8 ай бұрын
Gdp Inner Mongolia is 23 times higher than that of Outer Mongolia
@samwill7259
@samwill7259 9 ай бұрын
Nowadays they have a VERY strong democracy which I can only imagine they do while staying VERY still and quiet and hoping their neighbors don't notice it
@studio1c315
@studio1c315 8 ай бұрын
Great video! I do have abit of a odd question, what is the outro music you use
@xerpenta
@xerpenta 9 ай бұрын
"Decimate" on its own doesn't really bother me but it's something else to say "1/8 of something was decimated" and not mean 1/80 :P Either way a great, ifnormative video on a rather obscure topic. Thanks!
@XhumpersX
@XhumpersX 9 ай бұрын
Haha I knew someone would get a little semantic about the 1/3rd decimate usage as soon as you said it. It gave me a sensible chuckle to mention it like that at the end. Y'all know your audience too well.
@Numba003
@Numba003 8 ай бұрын
As I sit here and think about it, I realize that I know almost nothing about the modern history of Mongolia. Thank you for plugging yet another gap in my knowledge! I look forward to part two! God be with you out there, everybody. ✝️ :)
@simenonhonore
@simenonhonore 8 ай бұрын
Very interesting, thank you.
@AngloFrancoDane
@AngloFrancoDane 8 ай бұрын
You have a photo of Zhukov, but you don't mention the critical Battles of Khalkhin Gol in 1939 between Soviet and Mongol forces and intruding Japanese forces. It was the largest tank battle up to that time (preparing Zuukov for what was to come), and Japan's loss turned its ambitions away from Siberia and Mongolia as sources of oil and minerals and towards Southeast Asia.
@lordoftherats2387
@lordoftherats2387 9 ай бұрын
Mongolian peoples republic: PLEASE LET US IN TO THE USSR PLEASE!!! USSR: We gain nothing and mao would be even more mad, why tf would we do that?
@bobbarista
@bobbarista 8 ай бұрын
Nah. If it happened the Mongols were afraid to be like Manchuria to be incorporated into China after the war.
@ZolbooEnkhjargal-y9u
@ZolbooEnkhjargal-y9u 8 ай бұрын
Choibalsan sent that request behind the backs of the party members. It was one man’s wish. Mongolians were very much against it. Because of that action, Choibalsan faced many opposition, including some deaths in his family. And within 2.5 years. He himself had died.
@alanpennie
@alanpennie 8 ай бұрын
​@@ZolbooEnkhjargal-y9u I suppose even if Mongolia had joined The USSR it would have regained its independence in 1991. But it would have had to fight in WW2 so it would have been a bad bargain.
@lordoftherats2387
@lordoftherats2387 8 ай бұрын
@@ZolbooEnkhjargal-y9u i was under the presumption that even during the 70s this kept happening, but my mistake. Interesting stuff, my knowledge on the whole sino-soviet split, and the central asian dynamics during the cold war is lacking. Will have to read.
@alexhu5491
@alexhu5491 8 ай бұрын
In 2024 Russia has become (Chinese Canada) 70% of foreign currency reserves are in Chinese Yuan, in high schools they teach Chinese
@sethhanson6412
@sethhanson6412 9 ай бұрын
Why did not at least mention the battle of Khalkhin Gol in 1939?
@Ranting4Rent
@Ranting4Rent 9 ай бұрын
Loved the video. Very well-researched I don't even know how you got all this information.
@ligayamatira2293
@ligayamatira2293 9 ай бұрын
We Wish to have a feature episode about The Philippines under Ferdinand E. Marcos and under Martial Law from 1972 to 1981
@andyreznick
@andyreznick 9 ай бұрын
I, for one, would like to know the final shoe count Imelda ended up with.
@hanbyeol12
@hanbyeol12 9 ай бұрын
Ferdinand Marcos was just a puppet of Fabian Ver and Imelda
@peacefulamerican4994
@peacefulamerican4994 9 ай бұрын
The Beatles in P.I. is worth one episode alone.
@mohammedsaysrashid3587
@mohammedsaysrashid3587 9 ай бұрын
It was an informative and wonderful historical coverage video
@bigsarge2085
@bigsarge2085 9 ай бұрын
Interesting.
@stefanodadamo6809
@stefanodadamo6809 9 ай бұрын
Very interesting.
@tng2057
@tng2057 9 ай бұрын
I heard about the current Mongolian government’s hatred towards the Kim regime in N Korea resulting in her leniency towards N Korean escapees, allowing them to use Mongolian as a transit path to S Korea.
@B52Stratofortress1
@B52Stratofortress1 9 ай бұрын
They maintain cordial relations with both Koreas. But yes, they are enthusiastic about helping North Korean defectors.
@Samana-Recluse
@Samana-Recluse 9 ай бұрын
Mongolia has very good relationship with both North and South Koreans. We have north korean workers in Mongolia. If you are talking about that FAKE actress who claims escaped from N.Korea through Mongolia, i will tell you my friend: Its Simply impossible to cross Mongolian border and just wander through Mongolia on foot, for a woman or for a strong man. Even in summer time. In winter it's -50C. Even your pee gets frozen IN your body. That actress woman already caught lieing. She is S.Korean actress.
@gamelot12093
@gamelot12093 9 ай бұрын
Without defending the USSR, Mongolia would probably not have survived as a separate state if the USSR had not occupied it.
@BHuang92
@BHuang92 9 ай бұрын
Mongolia once asked to join the USSR but the Russians refused
@Prororo
@Prororo 9 ай бұрын
It probably would have survived but it would be stuck in the Middle Ages until technology develops more and china gets much more advanced weapons and absorbs Mongolia
@frenzalrhomb6919
@frenzalrhomb6919 9 ай бұрын
​@@BHuang92 .... I was about to say exactly that. Serves me right for turning up so late.
@samkugatano1053
@samkugatano1053 9 ай бұрын
@@BHuang92, according to the episode, this actually appened "at least six times" (14:25).
@USMCVETTE
@USMCVETTE 9 ай бұрын
Excuse good sir but can you make a video on khad of Afghanistan I don't see any videos on KZbin thanks👍👀
@dookiepost
@dookiepost 8 ай бұрын
Mongolia is fascinating. It's the country I most want to visit
@julies5469
@julies5469 9 ай бұрын
"Press the bell button anyway". Savage.
@WillMowass
@WillMowass 8 ай бұрын
Great episode. Is that a book on the desk, and if so, what's the whole title and the author?
@ronjohnson6916
@ronjohnson6916 9 ай бұрын
Interesting. The few times I thought about it I just assumed Mongolia was part of the USSR.
@yardslammer009kennedy2
@yardslammer009kennedy2 9 ай бұрын
It technically was, just not on paper. If Anything Mongolia was the Soviet Union's first Satellite State before the creation of the Eastern Bloc.
@gadaadyn8190
@gadaadyn8190 8 ай бұрын
There is a common joke that Mongolia was 16th Soviet Republic 😂
@yardslammer009kennedy2
@yardslammer009kennedy2 8 ай бұрын
​@@gadaadyn8190😅
@sourabhmayekar3354
@sourabhmayekar3354 Ай бұрын
Nice
@SeoulMan
@SeoulMan 9 ай бұрын
Early, precommunist Mongolia definitely had some moments. As the Qing downfall began, the spiritual leader of Mongolia's Buddhists was appointed by popular decision as the Bogde Khan. Nationalist China asserted influence over Inner AND Outer Mongolia, wanting to crush any notion of independence. Then an unexpected backer of the Bogde Khan came in the form of a White Russian general, Roman von Ungern-Sternberg, who plotted to revive the old Mongolian Empire. Needless to say, the struggle between nationalism and communism led Mongolia down its path.
@zeitgeistx5239
@zeitgeistx5239 9 ай бұрын
lol, the Soviets crushed Mongolian nationalism by killing Mongolian nationalists and installing pro Soviet puppets after they quietly invaded Mongolia with the NKVD. Mongolia literally had Soviet forces stationed in it pre WW2. This is how the Soviets imposed their written language upon Mongolia. You are repeating propaganda that the USSR somehow gave Mongolia independence when it was all about creating a puppet state to crush the Mongolian nationalism because 2 Soviet republics are ethnic Mongolians. This is why the leader of Mongolia called the Russian invasion of Ukraine a genocide against Mongols.
@Game_Hero
@Game_Hero 9 ай бұрын
Then the 1990 revolution happened and things start to finally get better.
@Game_Hero
@Game_Hero 8 ай бұрын
@@LIEFDESMORGEN Yes it did. Made by hunger strikes and mass protests by students on Genghis Khan Square. A bloodless transition to multiparty democracy and freedom of opposition and travel outerseas.
@clydecessna737
@clydecessna737 8 ай бұрын
You're right; that was interesting.
@joemoe1739
@joemoe1739 9 ай бұрын
please make a video about Tanu Tuva,
@bossman9758
@bossman9758 8 ай бұрын
Your right its miracle they still exist with just over 2 million population
@roto6500
@roto6500 5 ай бұрын
Wow, for a priest you really know your Mongolian history. Great video!
@ekmalsukarno2302
@ekmalsukarno2302 9 ай бұрын
To David and the entire Cold War crew, Please let me know once you've made videos on these following topics: - Argentina during the rule of Juan Peron (and how his political and economic legacies still affect Argentina to this day) - Thailand's on-and-off military governments and lese-majeste laws (which still occur even after the end of the Cold War) - Gastarbeiters (foreign migrant workers) in both West and East Germany - Bantustans (black homelands) in Apartheid-era South Africa - The history of Macau during the Cold War and how it contrasts with Hong Kong's Cold War history Thank you very much and please accept my requests.
@ext2a
@ext2a 2 ай бұрын
Mongolian here, so many things not really covered in our history lessons, wow
@gadaadyn8190
@gadaadyn8190 8 ай бұрын
Ulaanbaator means “Red Hero” in Mongolian
@alanpennie
@alanpennie 8 ай бұрын
It's a very Chapayev sort of name.
@Game_Hero
@Game_Hero 9 ай бұрын
Very excited for future episodes, including on the 1990 Mongolian revolution when the people rose up. Tsakhiagiin Elbegdorj along with the other student leaders is a legend of a guy.
@Okolzgono
@Okolzgono 9 ай бұрын
Elbegdorj is a shithead. He killed Zorig.
@10aerkhembileg84
@10aerkhembileg84 9 ай бұрын
We call Elbegdorj a UN bootlicker now because he's willing to do ANYTHING to get that position.
@Game_Hero
@Game_Hero 9 ай бұрын
​@@10aerkhembileg84 Why shouldn't he, it perfectly fits him and his ideals of international cooperation and progressivism. And who's "we"? More fitting is "I" (you).
@Samana-Recluse
@Samana-Recluse 9 ай бұрын
Elbegdorj is just a Western puppet like Zelensky. 😢😢😢
@Little-chilli
@Little-chilli 8 ай бұрын
Revolution? A revolution in which state-owned assets are sold legally and cheaply to these former red bureaucrats?😅
@jonathanwebster7091
@jonathanwebster7091 8 ай бұрын
Slight nitpick: the Mongolian People's Republic wasnt founded until 1924 (after the death of the Khan of Mongolia, the Bogd Khan), not 1920, and Sukhbaatar didnt actually live to see its proclamation. When Mongolia had been proclaimed independent in 1911/12, in a system similar to that in Tibet; it was with the head of Mongolian Lamaist Buddhism, (the Jebtsundamba Khutuktu) as Khan of Mongolia under the title of 'Bogd Khan'. When the revolution under Sukhbaatar happened in 1921, the Bogd Khan was allowed to stay on his throne, albeit as a figurehead. When the Bogd Khan died in 1924, the government declared that there were to be no further reincarnations of the Jebtsundamba Khutuktu, and Mongolia was declared a republic. Nonetheless, for those three years, Mongolia was one of the few rare examples of a (theocratic) monarchy with a communist government.
@KonradAdenauerJr
@KonradAdenauerJr 8 ай бұрын
I'm astonished you didn't mention Mongolia's fighting contribution during WW2: the battle of Khalhin Gol (1939) and its troops contributing to the Soviet offensive in Manchuria (1945).
@alexanderakh4955
@alexanderakh4955 9 ай бұрын
In 1939 the Soviet troops defended Mongolia from Japanese invasion (battle of Khalkhin Gol).
@DuBBleAgent
@DuBBleAgent 7 ай бұрын
So if one third of Mongolia's livestock was decimated then 97.67% survived, which doesn't seem that bad. Thanks for the history facts.
@ladondracorex7679
@ladondracorex7679 8 ай бұрын
Does anyone else notice how this video has like NO photos or videos of the events?
@gdhdi5339
@gdhdi5339 9 ай бұрын
I keep wondering what might have been if Mao's Long March had gone into existing red Mongolia instead of pushing on in China. Great research team, thanks!
@Lin-eo5xu
@Lin-eo5xu 8 ай бұрын
If Mao's Long March went into Outer Mongolia instead of staying in Shaanxi then the territory of China will include Outer Mongolia. Because the nationalist will chase the Communists into Outer Mongolia (the Nationalists does not recognise Mongolia as a independent nation, and there is no way Mao will not try to unite the whole China. So regardless of which side wins Outer Mongolia will be part of China, in the worst case it will be something similar to the relationship between Mainland China and Taiwan.
@gdhdi5339
@gdhdi5339 8 ай бұрын
@Lin-eo5xu I might have thought that it would be more like north and south Korea, especially since both the C. C. P. & R. O. K. were founded in Shanghai. The "get rich" policy also seems compatible to the reforms of Deng Xiaoping, if not the current "bling dynasty" policies.
@Lin-eo5xu
@Lin-eo5xu 8 ай бұрын
@@gdhdi5339 Yes, Deng Xiaoping do have a "get rich" policy but he is still a Chinese. The best way for a Chinese politician to be remembered centuries later is not his ability to make wealth instead his ability to unite the country. This is why Hongkong and Macau was returned during Deng's reign and there is behind the scene negotiation between CPC and KMT to form a third alliance and unite the country.
@QWERTY-gp8fd
@QWERTY-gp8fd 8 ай бұрын
@@Lin-eo5xu long march cannot enter mongolia as mongol leaders did not trust ccp.
@Lin-eo5xu
@Lin-eo5xu 8 ай бұрын
@@QWERTY-gp8fd Do you think Shaanxi want the communist to enter? No, they fight their way into it. At that neither CPC or KMT recognize the independence of Mongolia. So if the CPC needs to they will fight their way into outer Mongolia and replace the communist their. At the same time KMT will enter too to destroy the CPC.
@TheDavidlloydjones
@TheDavidlloydjones 8 ай бұрын
at 6:05, if "one third of the herds were decimated," are we to take it that 3.333% of the cattle were killed?
@rafazajaczkowski5598
@rafazajaczkowski5598 3 ай бұрын
funny issue, but also clever question? literally you should be right, it should be 3,333%, but... it is interesting when meaning of this word changed from decreasing by 1 out 10 to decreasing by large or even 9 out 10 amount. In Polish language which is my native there is similar issue with the word "zdziesiątkować" which has identical meaning and genesis 😀
@randomlyentertaining8287
@randomlyentertaining8287 3 ай бұрын
There's an even more interesting place in the same part of the world that even once shared a border with Mongolia. The mighty sleeping powerhouse of middle asia that enabled the Soviet Union to thrive for decades once an agreement was made to incorporate the two. Tannu Tuva Definitely worth a look if not done so already.
@Desmuu
@Desmuu 8 ай бұрын
It's always seemed strange to me that inner Mongolia isn't a part of Mongolia.
@calvinsuu1949
@calvinsuu1949 8 ай бұрын
Blame CCP and chinese people
@alanpennie
@alanpennie 8 ай бұрын
Inner Mongolia is mostly Han now. The Mongolians are quite a small minority, so it seems unlikely the two Mongolias will ever reunify.
@Desmuu
@Desmuu 8 ай бұрын
@@alanpennie That's kinda sad.
@calvinsuu1949
@calvinsuu1949 8 ай бұрын
@@alanpennie once CCP collapses the han chinese in inner mongolia cant survive without subsidies as most parts of inner mongolia is desert and has very thin upper layer in the soil
@alexhu5491
@alexhu5491 8 ай бұрын
Do you know the real Mongolian Orthodoxy is located in Inner Mongolia? Outer Mongolia is made up of Khalkha, vassal tribe of Genghis Khan, they have no blood relation to Genghis Khan. Altan Urugh tribe live in Inner Mongolia, the true descendants of Genghis Khan, Golden family, tribe of Genghis Khan🤦
@perrybonney9090
@perrybonney9090 8 ай бұрын
When Outer Mongolia broke away from the Soviet Union/ Russia during the collapse of the Soviet Union, I remember hearing in the news that Mongolia was the first Soviet satellite state. I had never known that.
@MeatyTF2Mercs
@MeatyTF2Mercs 8 ай бұрын
One small tidbit, the MPP was called the Mongolian People's Revolutionary Party originally, the MPP name only came around after the Communist Regime ended in 1992.
@sankarchaya
@sankarchaya 9 ай бұрын
funnily, in a letter Friedrich Engels argued against forceful expropriation of agricultural land. He thought it would just alienate the peasantry, a class which would anyways fade away as more advanced means of production would drive collectivization organically. I wonder how the revolutions in countries like Mongolia would have turned out if Stalin and Choilbasan had heeded Engels. Another funny note, the Republic of China in Taiwan still claims Mongolia as a part of China. Luckily, Taiwan seems uninterested in pursuing such revanchist claims, and would obviously be unable to do so anyhow. It's interesting that the Soviets never wanted to annex Mongolia considering the fate of little Tanu Tuva
@thethirdjegs
@thethirdjegs 9 ай бұрын
I never thought I would hear the term buddhist church, an oxymoronic phrase, in a "it seems right-ish" fashion.
@alanpennie
@alanpennie 8 ай бұрын
You missed Mongolia joining The UN in 1961, an important step on the road to independence. Sad that nothing could be done to reunite the Mongolian people. China was never likely to give up Inner Mongolia.
@petershen6924
@petershen6924 8 ай бұрын
It is good to mention that Yumjaagiin Tsedenbal had a Russian wife, Anastasia Filatova, who effectively ruled Mongolia on behalf of USSR and routinely report to the Soviet embassy.
@FF-le3ps
@FF-le3ps 9 ай бұрын
What did mongols get told to think about chengis khan during communist rule?
@Samana-Recluse
@Samana-Recluse 9 ай бұрын
Forbidden subject. Because Russians hate that sh***😂😂😂
@ranjava5550
@ranjava5550 8 ай бұрын
Nothing. People were afraid to even say his name let alone talk about the past history. That's the reason why after 90's many I mean MANY people named their boys Chinggis, Temuujin or Hasar 😂😂
@Barricade379
@Barricade379 9 ай бұрын
Yes! Finally some attention on Mongolia!^^ (hey why did this comment got deleted? There was nothing bad about it. I was merely being enthusiastic)
@SteveWray
@SteveWray 8 ай бұрын
Good video, and mentions things I didn't know about. However, I think its worth mentioning that Choibalsan was not Khalkh Mongol, but a Kalmyk and much hated by the majority Khalkh as there was very bad history between the groups. There are also a lot of suspicions among Mongols today that Choibalsan had Sukhbaatar poisoned.
@IanArthur-fb4br
@IanArthur-fb4br 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for the video. Nice to see people inform theirself by your videos. Im sick of russian goverment workers comming to Mongolia and complaining about language barrier. They say: Monglia was USSR's 16th Republic. Why there is no russian signs? But true is: 1st, no, it wasn't, Mongolia had it own way to progress, but it was just deeply influenced by USSR, 2nd USSR≠not Russia, 3rd Mongolian official language is Mongolian, second by popularity is English, third is Korean and only after it it's Russian, but Russian is popular just because the generation who was born during USSR know russian and because we are in neighborhood, 4th why there is no signs in Chinese in Russia or in Mongolian in Russia? They don't even have it on border. Even russian border pollice don't know neither Mongolian neither English, I know it because I'm as native russian speaker always the one who's translating Then answer me why we need to do russian signs in our CAPITAL? I hope after watching this video some people will educate theirself about the fact that Mongolia≠USSR, but it was deeply influenced. Also I hope people will search a lot of information about the second war and how Mongolia helped USSR during war and how we defeated Japanese on Khalha river. Also I would like some people learn about the fact that we wasn't need to do this and participate in war due to the CC German leader's ideology(of course it was whole world's problem but in Adolf's plan of genocide or slaving there were no mongolians, because he wanted leave us alone)
@ranjava5550
@ranjava5550 8 ай бұрын
Yes, this. Especially in Erdenet people automatically assume all of us speak Russian or when people hear I'm from Erdenet they think I can speak Russian and when I say I can't they act like I'm not normal 😂😂
@alanpennie
@alanpennie 8 ай бұрын
​@@ranjava5550 I'm afraid Russians are rather narrow - minded people.
@Т1000-м1и
@Т1000-м1и 9 ай бұрын
Within 7h when this has 12k
@SgtRocko
@SgtRocko 9 ай бұрын
One thing not mentioned: Mongolia was a guarantee'd vote in the UN for the USSR (back when the UN meant something)
@alanpennie
@alanpennie 8 ай бұрын
China did not allow it to join until 1961. Not surprisingly.
@Conrad496
@Conrad496 8 ай бұрын
Pls,make a video about Kazakh SSR
@JakeHunter2010
@JakeHunter2010 9 ай бұрын
Mongolia 🇲🇳 standing strong
@Mrgunsngear
@Mrgunsngear 9 ай бұрын
🇺🇸
@Lee.Hsien-Yung
@Lee.Hsien-Yung 9 ай бұрын
Mongolia once asked to join the Soviet Union but Moscow refused
@bobbarista
@bobbarista 8 ай бұрын
You once asked me to joined me and I refused you. What is your proof?
@slimtig3r755
@slimtig3r755 5 ай бұрын
8:23 A very Machiavellian move
@LOBricksAndSecrets
@LOBricksAndSecrets 8 ай бұрын
I don't know if it's correct, but I use "Decimate" to mean "reduce by one tenth" and "DecAmate" for the more generic and modern definition
@cpt_bill366
@cpt_bill366 9 ай бұрын
What are you doing step-warrior?
@trr94001
@trr94001 8 ай бұрын
I'll admit modern usage of Decimate bothers me but not nearly as much as how people mix up Ancestor and Descendant.
@alanpennie
@alanpennie 8 ай бұрын
That's very confusing.
@Seouldrift7
@Seouldrift7 8 ай бұрын
Mongolia Revolution (1990)
@williamhoney9509
@williamhoney9509 9 ай бұрын
place part 2 and 3
@channeljan8529
@channeljan8529 7 ай бұрын
In the 20th century I don't think any two countries shared greater solidarity than the Soviet Union and Mongolia did.
@hannibalbarca4372
@hannibalbarca4372 2 ай бұрын
Mongolia was the most loyal allies to the Soviet Union : The Soviet intervention was decisive to contain the Japanese expansionism in Mongolia (Battles of Khalkhin Gol). During WWII, Mongolia provided lot of food (meat), Winter clothes and hats to the Soviet military, Mongolian horses (to the Soviet cavalry)... till now, Mongolia and Russia have "warm" pragmatic neighboring relationship...
@ivan55599
@ivan55599 8 ай бұрын
How can there be "a state" and "communism" in same sentence?
@robracer97
@robracer97 9 ай бұрын
What's wrong with your mic that makes all your "S" sounds echo and hiss? No other youtube channels have this
@alexwinfield9540
@alexwinfield9540 8 ай бұрын
What's wrong with you that you moan about something so massively unimportant?
@robracer97
@robracer97 8 ай бұрын
@@alexwinfield9540 Because it's distracting and makes the video unwatchable? How is that unimportant? Also who are you to say what I can and cannot complain about? If you didn't edit the video your input literally doesn't matter
@HWDragonborn
@HWDragonborn 8 ай бұрын
Mongolia is basically the Eldian Empire of the past, but its just Paradis today. But instead of facing against Marley across the sea, it had to face two Marleys in the north(Russia) and the south(China).
@francoluissotomayor5521
@francoluissotomayor5521 9 ай бұрын
How about Kazak?
@Game_Hero
@Game_Hero 9 ай бұрын
Colony of Russia at the time
@francoluissotomayor5521
@francoluissotomayor5521 9 ай бұрын
@@Game_Hero sorry. What i meant was why wasn’t Kazak included within Russia SSR?
@francoluissotomayor5521
@francoluissotomayor5521 9 ай бұрын
@@Game_Hero i dont want to sound russian imperialist, but it is their view of security to expand as much as possible and they are losing that rn.
@Game_Hero
@Game_Hero 9 ай бұрын
@@francoluissotomayor5521 because it's the Kazakhstan SSR, it wasn't part of the Russian SSR. Also, yeah, their view, an archaic 19th century one that means nowadays nothing when one has the world largest stock of nuclear weapons.
@jonathandidley5262
@jonathandidley5262 9 ай бұрын
I wonder if the MPR had tote bags?
@jonformella7973
@jonformella7973 9 ай бұрын
Cold War Mongolia is fascinating!
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