My Grandpa told me stories about Lithuanian SSR times in the mid 50-60's, when Kruschev was in power, he was in charge of a local collective farm near our village. One story he recalled will always stick with me. When Nikita found about corn he became obsesed about growing it in the USSR, and since Lithuania was primarily exporting food directly to Moscow they quickly received orders to produce and grow insane ammounts of corn. Given the fact that he had no clue what corn is (not really a stable crop for the region back then), they did not really know how to grow it and the seeds they were provided with were not a good fit for the soil and climate, the harvest were horrid. Food started to became a problem in the region, so to not have everyone starve or get shot by the newly renamed KGB for calling the decision by the supreme secretary stupid they began to plan 1-3 meter perimeters of corn around the totally not rye or wheat fields so when inspections happened they could not see that far back.
@诚达8 ай бұрын
Arbitrary decision making is a commonly phenomena in communism countries.
@vbrotherita8 ай бұрын
What a testimony, thanks for sharing.
@black108728 ай бұрын
It's crazy how they could order something to be done with little to no knowledge of what it takes to get a specific crop grown in massive numbers without considering the cost of growing that specific crop in massive numbers.
@black108728 ай бұрын
The US can almost grow any crop on Earth. What lack in abundance is rice fields. Other than that, we have abundance in everything. Especially when it comes to corn. The entire Midwest is an endless cornfield. Fruits, nuts, vegetables, all are grown in California because of its perfect agricultural environment. Oranges, peaches, and other fruits are grown in Florida, New Jersey, and Georgia. So we can get everything all year round. The Soviet Union had that potential. However, the Soviet system was never sufficient enough to be on par with the US. A free market capitalist economy is the best way forward. A command economy is efficient to do just one thing at the cost of another thing.
@d3nza4828 ай бұрын
@@black10872 That's ignorant nonsense. You're comparing 21st century technology and techniques (with their own set of ecological problems) with post-WW2 Soviet states - where just seeing a tractor was the equivalent of an automated robotic farm today. Further, for the US escapades from technologically similar periods look up the dust bowl, rampant alcoholism, prohibition, even the Great Depression... and that's all just before WW2 and the idea of ecology and the realization of what pesticides were doing to the biosphere. All provided by the "free market capitalist economy". In the modern era the same system has led to destruction of individual producers in favor of corporations, further ecological devastation and continuous boom-bust cycles of the global economy. FFS, modern corn is not even edible - it has to be industrially processed into starch and high fructose corn syrup before it can be consumed. Leading to a growing pandemic of a whole range of diseases - all a product of pursuit of profit. Just the other day, there was another Nestle scandal around them adding sugar into baby formula and infant food - but only in the poor countries where regulations are not as precise. But that's nothing compared to billions who will die before we manage to fix the effects of global warming alone. Also, free market my ass. There's no such thing as a deregulated or free market. Even completely illegal "products and services" are strictly regulated. There's only regulations favoring either the producers and consumers OR the middlemen and stock market parasites. "Freeing" the economy has inevitably always resulted in huge profits for the latter, the capitalists, while impoverishing or outright destroying the working class. And even if there were... look no further than the state of US economic and other conditions BEFORE there were modern regulations. From bank crises to adulterated and outright poisonous food and "medicines".
@travisinthetrunk8 ай бұрын
“Corruption Scandal That Shook the USSR” Do you have the slightest idea how little that narrows it down?
@carkawalakhatulistiwa7 ай бұрын
Lobby congras with money is normal 😂
@gaymer420697 ай бұрын
Tru.
@nvelsen19757 ай бұрын
"Corruption Scandal That Shook the USSR [10 hours, part 1/387]"
@Cs137626 ай бұрын
What are a few other notable examples?
@FrithonaHrududu021275 ай бұрын
@@Cs13762I know, not wrong, but please elaborate
@dmitriybozhanov26368 ай бұрын
Before Uzbek cotton was Fish "Ocean" network scandal, before that was a Leningrad vegetable and fruit scandal, before that was Ryazan cattle scandal... the list goes on.
@carkawalakhatulistiwa7 ай бұрын
Turkmenistan oil scandal now 2024
@robertortiz-wilson15884 ай бұрын
I’d like a video on that!
@CelloPerspective7 ай бұрын
I am from Uzbekistan, and to this day in Uzbekistan no one really talks about these events. Thank you for the informative video.
@carkawalakhatulistiwa7 ай бұрын
So Soviet central government sen 4 billion To buy cotton that doesn't exist 😂
@befeleme8 ай бұрын
Another such affair worth mentioning is that of the Czechoslovak army general Jan Sejna, who was involved in a similar corruption scandal involving agricultural products. He defected to the US in order to avoid prosecution, the highest ranking official to escape from Cold War Czechoslovakia.
@stefanodadamo68098 ай бұрын
Obviously a hero of freedom™️ who escaped the clutches of Godless Communism™️😉
@Stakan798 ай бұрын
My father, as a KGB officer with a degree in economics, took part in the investigation of this corruption case.
@janchovanec86248 ай бұрын
Hate to brake it to you, your father was the corrupt person. You cannot be a good person and be member of the most evil regime of all time.
@adamromanak76058 ай бұрын
i read that they used Satellites to spy on the cotton fields to see if the paper worked matched the output.
@youthoughtaboutit69468 ай бұрын
Out of curiosity, what did an economics degree in the USSR generally entail to earn?
@PatrickBaptist7 ай бұрын
Your father must have been terrible to have lived with, always wondering if you were being used against him, must have been a very paranoid lunatic, sorry you were raised up by such evil.
@ФёдорМартыненко-ш1з7 ай бұрын
@@youthoughtaboutit6946 Плановая экономика это тоже экономика. В ней есть свои законы, они не похожи на рыночные, но в плановой экономике тоже не бесконечные ресурсы.
@John-vp2jq8 ай бұрын
"Stabbed himself seven times in the chest" Is this the origin of the common Russian meme "Suicide. Two shots to the back of the head."
@youthoughtaboutit69468 ай бұрын
That one’s a global meme/joke.
@Masaham8 ай бұрын
Russian wikipedia says 17 times... Edit: Might be all together though
@erc94687 ай бұрын
Those could be quotes from Hillary Clinton
@militaristicsoldier8566 ай бұрын
That’s a joke about the journalist Gary Webb, who after reporting on the drug trades relations to the CIA was found with two gun shots to the back of the head and it was ruled a suicide
@anthonymartucci42085 ай бұрын
@@erc9468 they call that arkanside
@creatoruser7368 ай бұрын
Just think how far this would have to go. Hundreds of thousands of tons of cotton were put on the books which didn't exist. But those amounts had to go somewhere, and industries which used that cotton knew that a good chunk was non-existent. So they were in on the ruse and had to lie about their outputs, too.
@smalltime08 ай бұрын
I think there was plenty of cotton, the DDR made their cars out of cotton, it was just of shitty quality. Luckily all they did was drain the Aral sea in the process, and made the world's youngest desert!
@300guy8 ай бұрын
There was plenty of roubles to throw up and down the line to not rock the boat, you saw that table just piled with them.
@300guy8 ай бұрын
@smalltime0 They, Russian and later Soviet scientists said the Aral sea was just a waste because the water just evaporated, so why not divert it for extremely water intensive agriculture. And why line the ditches with clay or concrete, just a waste of resources, so what if 90% of the water diverted was sucked into the ground or evaporated.
@smalltime08 ай бұрын
@@300guy Ironically the salt being blown across the fields means the irrigated fields use even more water, why the hell anyone would go 'lets divert water flows and make a salt lake' is beyond me
@300guy8 ай бұрын
@smalltime0 Short term Gains, within a 5 year plan were much more important than long-term consequences. Look at Krustchev's virgin lands initiative, definitely increased crop yields for a couple of years but without any infrastructure to support the new production a lot of it just went to waste.
@michaelsinger46388 ай бұрын
Boris Yeltsin criticizing corruption is, ironic.
@minhng72088 ай бұрын
Boris is the most corrupted leader, to the point of being a traitor.
@senpainoticeme96758 ай бұрын
Everyone is young once and full of idealism.
@konstantinriumin26578 ай бұрын
"It should have been me! Not them!"
@videonofan8 ай бұрын
Maybe he took inspiration from what he saw in Uzbekistan
@lansvale287 ай бұрын
Of course, he’s Russia. ‘Do as I say, not as I do’.
@SasBald8 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@TheColdWarTV8 ай бұрын
Thank YOU!
@rrai19998 ай бұрын
Even as an American born in '99, I heard about this one. Probably the only thing out of Uzbekistan that anyone outside of it even knows about
@макслюлюкин8 ай бұрын
actually, this is an ancient land of civilizations, some cities there are several thousand years old
@greatwolf53728 ай бұрын
@user-dl3nc4jx7k Every region in the Eurasian landmass has ancient civilizations and old cities. Nothing exceptional about Uzbekistan in that regards.
@daltongalloway7 ай бұрын
@@макслюлюкинsure but the nation state known as Uzbekistan, is relatively new
@andrewdgw67796 ай бұрын
Borat's most hated country
@ralfgroh27198 ай бұрын
I am a devoted student of Cold War history and would like to thank you for your competent coverage of that most interesting era. Thanks, and keep it up!
@shlomomarkman63748 ай бұрын
The "Uzbek affair" was indeed a big scandal but scandals of this type were common in the years 1978-1983. Things were on the books but not in reality and things in reality "went left" and disappeared somewhere. 20%-50% of every item disappeared before it went on the shelf and everyone stood in line for hours despite their city, town or Kolhoz being "supplied according to plan". Nobody gave a damn unless it involved military production.
8 ай бұрын
The most amazing thing in this video for me is the "upt to 90% Water loss" in the canal. What a waste :(
@carkawalakhatulistiwa7 ай бұрын
The mistake was using a canal instead of a pipe
@MystMagusАй бұрын
Short term gains above sustainability, an all to common story
@trizvanov8 ай бұрын
"Cotton picking" in Central Asian republics, just like potato picking in more temperate climate, was a mandatory thing that ALL high-school and university students participated in.
@DavidGonzalez-jh6eh8 ай бұрын
Corruption? That's a paddlin
@Cookholster8 ай бұрын
Ah another Jingles man
@TheColdWarTV8 ай бұрын
You better believe that's a paddlin'...
@skeetrix55778 ай бұрын
@@TheColdWarTV didn't anyone who watches johnny Harris if they saw a video this week about uzebeckisan? I could have swore he put out a video on that country and especially about it's corrupt government, specifically the presidents daughter who was taking tens of millions in bribes and literally torturing those who didn't pay up. crazy story
@johndoe54328 ай бұрын
Stabbin*
@СахерСалама8 ай бұрын
great episode like always
@FelipeGarcia-ch3iw8 ай бұрын
Let’s not forget how Uzbek government got the cotton in the first place. According to some investigations the Uzbek authorities went to schools and got people out of their jobs in some days just to go and harvest cotton with zero pay, in other words , forced labor, so even when the Uzbek government was having good quotas we must bear in mind that those come up with force labor in cotton fields and yes I know how uncanny that sounds. To this day the Uzbek government exploits cotton using very weird methods. And although the Uzbek government claims they have stopped doing that practice…who’s to say that regional elites are not still forcing their citizens for that
@ФёдорМартыненко-ш1з7 ай бұрын
Независимость республик СССР это не свобода народов. Это независимость местных элит, которые могут управлять своими народами без вмешательства Москвы.
@jesseberg32718 ай бұрын
So Stalin personally just sat down and drew lines on a map to decide the borders of Muslim nations he knew nothing about, but tell me more about how the Soviet Union wasn't a colonial power.
@babayaga63768 ай бұрын
You need to understand Russian mentality. They are a colonial power since the times of Ivan the Terrible and they started expanding eastward. And just because they had a revolution in 1917, it doesn't mean they got rid of their mentality. They were and still are a colonial power. The magnitude of that "power" is up to debate, but the will was and still is there.
@theotherohlourdespadua11318 ай бұрын
In Douglas Porch's book "Wars of Empire", Russian imperialism is unique because it is intrinsically tied to national security. Them being the largest country on earth was not because they saw potential for riches in those places but rather saw potential for security in those places...
@jesseberg32718 ай бұрын
@@theotherohlourdespadua1131 it's an argument, I think at best it tells half the story. Every empire descended from Rome has justified its imperial actions through claims of self defense because that was what Rome did. Empires that weren't descended from Rome generally found other ways to justify their actions, like the Chinese and their "Mandate of Heaven". Brits sometimes argued that their empire was necessary to keep the Royal Navy preeminent, so that it could always defend the English Channel, which was the only way to keep the massive armies of Europe at bay. The US likewise defends its current informal empire as a means of "National Security". Even the Crusades were pitched as "Defensive" actions. So again, I'm not saying that Russia didn't face a unique set of circumstances, but I question if it was truly as unique as that, when other empires made similar claims.
@Stone8age8 ай бұрын
He did, he also set up an extremely privileged regime for Georgian SSR while deporting ethnic "minorities" from it's borders.
@ChristopherFodor8 ай бұрын
They weren't "nations" how you think they were
@BTScriviner8 ай бұрын
Love these in-depth looks into the workings of the Soviet Union. 👍
@mediawarrior59577 ай бұрын
You realize the entire operation was a soup sandwich.
@randomchannel-px6ho8 ай бұрын
"As seemingly harmless as cotton" I think the script writers forgot about something there lmfao
@anzaca18 ай бұрын
Cotton IS harmless.
@stefanodadamo68098 ай бұрын
Something like "you can totally enslave people even without communism, and indeed in a capitalist economy"
@it.snowig8 ай бұрын
@@anzaca1the cotton industry however, not so much
@Chungus5818 ай бұрын
Believe it or not, responsible for 53% of violent crime in America
@youthoughtaboutit69468 ай бұрын
This kind of goes into the whole object/tool vs potential uses debate.
@Gaben388 ай бұрын
I wish more people knew how truly evil Brezhnev really was.
@daveacbickford8 ай бұрын
Just another spectacular video guys, absolutely love your work - this story is just a textbook example of what makes this channel special, intriguing, rarely explored elsewhere, and delivered brilliantly. Keep up the brilliant work guys 😊😊😊
@sittinandthinkin8 ай бұрын
Another reason not to allow big government to operate without checks.
@anjetto17 ай бұрын
Yes. Privatize everything. No government. Corporate control of everything
@davidfuller5815 ай бұрын
_Nothing_ should operate without checks. Not businesses, not governments, nothing.
@GLASSMOSCOWANDBEIJING3 ай бұрын
@@anjetto1 do you even know why corporations exist? Because of the state. I mean, you seriously believe that Pepsi Co, Amazon, Microsoft, Apple and Raytheon became so big solely because of better business plans and capitalism? But then again statists will always glaze the state with their entire existence before realising too late how much damage the state does to an average person
@deltaplan9968 ай бұрын
(1:03) The very first from left is Heydar Aliyev, the current Azeri president's father. Great video as always! Please make another about Azerbaijani SSR: - The only profitable Soviet republic, except Russian Federation. - Muslim, was tolerant towards Christians and Jews. Influenced by both Turkic and Persian ties. - Reach of natural resources, its oilfields were the Hitler's major objective in Caucasus.
@ptitepompe46921 күн бұрын
"Tolerant" Baku pogroms ?
@hrvojejurak51878 ай бұрын
Another fine episode, sir. Love these saturday mornings
@Jesse_Dawg8 ай бұрын
Please more videos on soviet corruption
@DT-wp4hk8 ай бұрын
Green politics in western countries
@trizvanov8 ай бұрын
Pick any country and you'll see a similar picture. In some, it involves invasion of other countries.
@carkawalakhatulistiwa7 ай бұрын
Lobbying in usa Aso
@danlowe86848 ай бұрын
Well, I don't know how much governing Brezhnev was actually doing in his last several years. He wanted to give the title Hero of the Soviet Union to a TV actor that portrayed a fictional WW2 spy.
@randomhuman55257 ай бұрын
Votka overdose :)
@samkugatano10538 ай бұрын
Great episode!
@joshuaryan19467 ай бұрын
You're pretty naive if you think that Soviet people didn't know the scale of this while it was going on. They were simply powerless to discuss it.
@williamlloyd37698 ай бұрын
BTW, currently the Taliban is building the new, river sized Qosh Tepa Canal to irrigate northern Afghanistan. The canal is unlined and diverts water from the Amu Darya river. PS -Amu river waters four ex-USSR republics: Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan that are downstream of Afghanistan. Water stress will cause future issues.
@trizvanov8 ай бұрын
I'd no idea this was happening and really hope that the leaders of those countries are having serious discussions regarding this.
@sekhyhybrid67018 ай бұрын
All the more reason for Kazakhstan to dam the western half of the Aral Sea as well.
@carkawalakhatulistiwa7 ай бұрын
@@trizvanov just use war
@kalomboC8 ай бұрын
We shall pretend to work, so they can pretend to pay us...
@toudi_p5 ай бұрын
Yep. One of the only plus of communism. My mentaly impaired uncle worked over 30 years and got a retirement pension with benefits etc. They used to task him with - " guard that hammer " and he did for a whole shift and full pay
@kalomboC5 ай бұрын
@@toudi_p did he literally guard a hammer 🤨😳
@toudi_p5 ай бұрын
@@kalomboC yeah , they made fun of him. Of course not the whole month's pay. I think he worked a warehouse , nothing complicated. Today he would probably on disability. Dont know if this was a + for communism or not if you look at productivity of such a person , but he got a normal pay probably. But would you hire him in private buisness ? No way
@panzerfaust50467 ай бұрын
"how could a crop as seemingly harmless as cotton inflict so much damage" man where have I seen this one
@williamsoergel28916 ай бұрын
The Derek Peterson you cited is not Derek Peterson the professor from the University of Michigan. The 2013 Master’s thesis you cite belongs to a different person, as Professor Derek Peterson has a PhD from the University of Minnesota from 2000.
@sandervr107 ай бұрын
So basically nothing has changed in the former USSR countries until this day .... corruption is the name of the game...
@bendafyddgillard8 ай бұрын
A fascinating and sad (for an armchair communist) episode. The destruction of the Aral Sea is a disaster by itself. It's worth noting that such unrealistic agriculture is not limited to communist countries. Almonds and even rice(!) are still grown in California, USA (for now), and Texas, USA has just been obliged to end its 20+ year experiment growing thirsty sugar cane despite having only half the required rainfall and trying to make up the difference from the Rio Grande. I suppose that's what happens whenever the primary concern is numbers on paper, and ecology is ignored.
@Newbobdole6 ай бұрын
It’s really cool to learn something new about the Cold War era, the further away we get from those years the wilder it seems
@aasemahsan7 ай бұрын
2:01 Early history & Uzebek contribution to USSR economy (Cotton) 5:00 Post-Stalin -Increased emphasis & subsequent reliance on cotton under Khrushchev & Sharaf Rashidov -'Stability of cadres' under Brezhnev 17:47 Andropov'sccrackdown on corruption & aftermath
@bioLarzen6 ай бұрын
As a Hungarian I've lived my young life behind the iron curtain - I've never heard of this thing...
@mhick33338 ай бұрын
I had a czech friend who managed a cold storage warehouse for imported fruit and vegetables Because of mandatory quotas they ended up with Dumped inferior products that filled up thier space with stuff like light bulbs that just fell out of the socket or shoes that the soles just fell off within a couple steps , and they had to account all this stuff every month on penalty of being charged for theft of state property , he escaped eventually (whole nuther story)
@NickJohnCoop8 ай бұрын
When you put all of this on top of the costs of Chernobyl and Afghanistan it amazes me that the USSR lasted as long as it did.
@shauncameron83908 ай бұрын
Tyranny to compensate for the economic limitations exposed by the US's military budget.
@carkawalakhatulistiwa7 ай бұрын
USA Afganistan 2.0 baby
@Numba0038 ай бұрын
Thank you for another educational episode. I did know Uzbekistan became the cotton mill of the USSR before its collapse, but I don't think I knew much, if anything, about this specific incident. I look forward to future videos on the central Asian republics! God be with you out there, everybody. ✝️ :)
@carkawalakhatulistiwa7 ай бұрын
Because the Soviet Union's economy was sanctioned by the United States, it was difficult to import.
@philipbrening4338 ай бұрын
Corruption had been a key issue in the Soviet Union dating back to the Russian Civil War and in many instances back to WWI
@robertortiz-wilson15884 ай бұрын
Thank you for this.
@jeffreykalb97528 ай бұрын
"Uzbeks have been drinking my battery fluid!" "Uzbeks... the weak link in the great chain of socialism."
@chairpersonofthecharlotteh56467 ай бұрын
Reminds me of 2 phrases my grandma told me (she lived 50 years under soviet occupation) "We have everything, but not for everyone." "Everyone is equal, but some are more equal."
@carkawalakhatulistiwa7 ай бұрын
So Russia Empire Doesn't count
@carkawalakhatulistiwa7 ай бұрын
Is sosialis you have money but don't have Product In capitalis you have many tipe of Product But don't have money
@zacharydavid4038 ай бұрын
Hell yeah, ColdWar Saturday morning . These are like my cartoons.
@thewaterbearer168 ай бұрын
Sounds like 21st CCP China’s various provinces but with land sales and real estate, with “forever growing”GDP growth targets.
@qjtvaddict8 ай бұрын
USA: Hold my beer
@httm2418 ай бұрын
as bad as the USSR corruption was it is not nearly the absolute scale of modern China
@carkawalakhatulistiwa7 ай бұрын
USA more debt
@nvelsen19757 ай бұрын
Completely uncomparable: Some bubbles are counted yes, but they are counted consistently and corruption itself is in fact being rooted out. All that does is a set inflation that has side effects and can be contained locally. Also it provides some economic activity even if the intent is corrupt to begin with. The 'real estate bubble' for example has ensured people can actually afford to live in and near cities. It eliminates the risk from the property development market. I've sat in on a pretty corrupt land deal in China and I own an appartment block in a small village. Wait Velsen, didn't you just say corruption in China isn't comparable? That's pretty corrupt! Well yes, the building is mostly derelict. It's worth 1 rmb and can't ever be rented out again. It's economically done but who wants to shell out for demolion? Aint even builders left to knock it down: half the village is a ruin, everybody moved to the city. But we needed my grandmother-in-law to sell it to someone so she could free a slot in the maximum amount of property she can legally own; She's reliable and you can inherit above your legal limit. Reliable, unlike a drunken uncle they previously used as a strawman who simply seized their 'his' appartment. We basically explained that nobody would buy it and surely he would help lovely grandma? Plus do you mind if we store these bottles of excellent liquor in your office fridge while we go shopping? By the by, if anything is wrong, just seize the property off me, I don't mind and you'll look good for getting free assets for the local government. With his ass covered and knowing there'd be no trace of the payment, clerk happily signed off on it. That's how I bought a 1 RMB building off an old lady for 190K RMB (that I then write off as a foreign investment loss on my taxes AND I can prove it bought something and was a loss, so that's fully legal) and the same week my grandmother in law bought property for 190K rmb in a place which I know for a fact would become Guangzhou's new expansion. Fast forward six years to now, and it is the next big thing, they'll talk your ears off at the Museum of Urban Planning. The family made a pile of money and pay us back at a rate of € 1500 per family visit so it stays within cash allowance and reporting ranges. Corrupt? Totally. Harmful to society? Naah. It basically ensured a significant private investment into a government project that otherwise wouldn't be done.
@thewaterbearer167 ай бұрын
@@nvelsen1975 corruption doesn’t only mean bribery and acceptance of bribes which distort fair trade and assessment of quality, it also meant corruption of system, including government administration, which leads to diminishing returns for society and ultimatums leading to need for more corruption such as bribery, in order to keep the leapfrog the broken system.
@JohnRawlins216 ай бұрын
1) Love your channel. You have some amazing topics covered. 2) This is an especially fantastic and in-depth topic. The obscurity of this to Western audiences goes without saying. I’m sure former USSR citizens would also find it obscure, though unfortunately familiar under the rubric of pervasive corruption. Keep up the great work!
@daltonalbertin1378 ай бұрын
Appreciate this learning!!
@yux.tn.36418 ай бұрын
I would love to visit Tashkent, fergana valley and see the silk road
@DanUZB_Ай бұрын
Im from Uzbekistan. And thanks for that content
@exocet15 ай бұрын
My dad worked in the gold mining industry in Uzbekistan. I visited and traveled all around in 2004 and there were so many huge Karimov billboards everywhere. There was so much corruption , but saw so many cool towns. But, remember walking around Zarafshan and people stopping me and talking to me because they knew my Dad ran the gold mine. But the officials where so corrupt and my Dad had so many issues with government officials.
@Velazquez4life-xf7ts4 ай бұрын
In the u.s. we call corruption lobbying
@cv990a48 ай бұрын
There's a great book - Berezovsky Time by Petr Aven. I can't read Russian, but I got an electronic copy and ran it through Google translate and it worked pretty well. If you want an idea of how corrupt the USSR was, man, this book is extremely revealing. Berezovksy and Aven were part of an academic institute, and Berezovsky sold academic theses to industry executives who thereby got to add academic achievements to their CV. Their biggest client was AvtoVAZ - they'd get free autoparts which they would sell. All this happening in the last decade or so of the USSR. Just corrupt as hell.
@ФёдорМартыненко-ш1з7 ай бұрын
СССР разрушили не идеалисты ради свободы. Его разрушили преступники, ради бесконтрольного воровства, ради возможности легализации преступных доходов под видом бизнеса, ради возможности не скрывать иностранные предметы роскоши, ради возможности уехать с украденным за границу.
@cv990a47 ай бұрын
@@ФёдорМартыненко-ш1з No one said they were idealists. But the idealism of the Soviet Union lasted only through the first generation and those who had direct experience with WWII. The trouble with communism as a system is that it's not incentive-compatible. It needs almost everyone to be somewhat idealistic to work because it goes against human nature and human weaknesses. By the time you get to the 1970s, large numbers of people were either covertly or openly corrupt and it went all the way to the top - like Brezhnev tolerating the open corruption of the Muslim SSRs. Well designed economic systems must be robust to human nature, the fact people are largely self-interested, at least on the scale of national economies.
@ФёдорМартыненко-ш1з7 ай бұрын
@@cv990a4 Есть большая разница между тем, чтобы дать людям возможность обогащаться с помощью труда и обогащаться с помощью воровства. Примером для молодого поколения должны быть честные, трудолюбивые, изобретательные люди, а не бандиты и мошенники. В 90-е годы каждый школьный хулиган хвалился своими связями с настоящими бандитами. Они держали в страхе каждый город, им завидовали, стремились подражать (уголовный жаргон, татуировки, спортивная одежда, в которой удобно драться и бегать). С горькой усмешкой люди вспоминали слова про частную инициативу, собственность, бизнес, права человека - самыми богатыми людьми стали преступники. Честность стала уделом слабых, неудачников. Каждый бизнесмен либо становился жертвой преступников либо сам становился преступником. Либо ты убьешь конкурентов (и компаньонов) либо тебя убьют конкуренты (и компаньоны). Крах СССР был выгоден не тем, кто хочет честно трудиться, а тем, кто украл миллиарды.
@igoraraujo2458 ай бұрын
What is the name of the songs you use in the background in your videos? I find them very interesting and add a little tension to the topics covered.
@caseclosed93428 ай бұрын
I thought the Aral Sea lost water because Badlandschugs drank the water to spread freedom and democracy in the region. The history KZbinr DocuDubery told me that.
@RickRobinCagnaan8 ай бұрын
Borat was right about Uzbekistan but... this was more nuanced than ever thought.
@rooneytutoring8 ай бұрын
I thought Borat was from Kazakhstan?
@RickRobinCagnaan8 ай бұрын
@@rooneytutoring Yeah he was.
@ftwcrazyman8 ай бұрын
Yes, and one of the Borat jokes is always to denigrate Uzbekistan
@rooneytutoring8 ай бұрын
@@ftwcrazyman thx for the clarification.
@stevenobrien5578 ай бұрын
@@rooneytutoring we all know what Kazakhstan's number one problem is however the lesser known number two is Uzbekistan.
@ScienceReasonLove7 ай бұрын
8:16 The background music for this part sounds like someone left a key in the ignition of a car from the 1970s and left the door open over night
@CarterSimon7778 ай бұрын
Can you do a video on the soviet cybernetics program? 🤞🤞🤞
@flthmr632 ай бұрын
Did some forget to switch off the piano loop after the intro ? What sort of emotional response are they seeking from me - you must remember in the Soviet Union emotion was forbidden ;)
@krzysztofkolodziejczyk43358 ай бұрын
i doubt things were worse in Usbek SSR then in others. In fact it seems that they do indeed delivered most of the claimed cotton production. Saddest in all this is that all middle asian soviet republics turned into dictatorships that are simoultanously horrible and ridiculous, Borat style.
@MouaiziaYounes8 ай бұрын
The central Asian republics were dictatorships since their establishment during the soviet era and their situation now is just a consequence of what happened back then, in a way central Asia never really changed.
@trizvanov8 ай бұрын
"Middle Asian" was the term established during the colonialism and should really be abandoned
@krzysztofkolodziejczyk43358 ай бұрын
@@trizvanov why? it's accurate enough description of position.
@trizvanov8 ай бұрын
@@krzysztofkolodziejczyk4335 No, not really. "Middle Asia" is a term that was invented during the colonial expansion by Russia. It is best not to be used to avoid ambiguity and colonial connotations.
@krzysztofkolodziejczyk43358 ай бұрын
@@trizvanov "not really"? it is LITERALLY description of position. as such not really an "invention".
@FrithonaHrududu021275 ай бұрын
Really great channel. I kinda miss the USSR. Thats a really stupid statement i realize but as a kid there was this feeling of being like the galactic republic vs. the empire. It was scary but cool as a kid.
@ngsamuel7478 ай бұрын
great video
@dwshank7 ай бұрын
Uzbek cotton was crucial to the USSR for more than just clothes and trade. They used it to make nitrocellulose, aka, gun cotton. It's used to fire artillery shells, among other military uses. They made MASSIVE amounts of it to align with their military doctrine, which called for large massed artillery. A shortage could have been a real disaster for them.
@WillN2Go18 ай бұрын
Once again comrade you have over produced the goals of the 5 year plan.
@oliverstianhugaas74937 ай бұрын
Proud to announce that not only have i subscribed three times, i have also pressed the bell buttons five times!
@patrickjeffers78648 ай бұрын
Stabbed himself 7x in the heart...I was like wtf😮, then he said yeah the kgb did it😅
@Dev_Six8 ай бұрын
Corruption in a Socialist state? Never heard that one before.
@kaibotski49398 ай бұрын
Time to report yourself to the closest reeducation center. Everyone knows the imperialist west promotes the lie of Soviet corruption.
@BTScriviner8 ай бұрын
Yeah, it's almost like it was a capitalist society.
@DrVictorVasconcelos8 ай бұрын
"Corruption" is what they called stealing from the poor in communist states. In capitalist states they simply called it "lobbying", "electoral contribution", "consumption tax", or simply "law".
@Tupadre978 ай бұрын
@@BTScriviner not real commulism?
@CarterSimon7778 ай бұрын
@@Tupadre97 Freedom to be American with worsening standard of living?
@LeishaMorrison-tt4qo8 ай бұрын
Liked my first watch!
@friendlylaser6 ай бұрын
More accurate translation of druzjba narodov will be "friendship of nationalities", in Russia "narod" means people yes, but in this context it implies "friendship of peoples (of particular nations)".
@bigsarge20858 ай бұрын
Intriguing.
@galvanic.warlock6 ай бұрын
My college civil law lecturer took part in this investigation back then
@sourabhmayekar335428 күн бұрын
Nice
@komerczka7 ай бұрын
No way that communists could be corrupted ...
@deathstinger138 ай бұрын
isn't "the Great Patriotic War' the russian name for WWII? Is there a reason you used that name instead of World War II, the more widely known term outside of the former soviet states?
@xandervk23718 ай бұрын
Yes, they renamed it to hide the fact that the USSR originally entered the war as an aggressor in 1939 alongside the Nazis.
@StandaBlabol8 ай бұрын
The reason is simple. The WW2 has been started by nacional socialistic Germany together with international socialistic Russia + colonies known as USSR. Hitler.and Stalin attacked Poland together and later wehrmacht and red army have common victory parade in Brest. The Great patriotic war begins in 1941, when former nazi ally attacked russia and everybody pretend, that there is no history before 1941. This is the reason.
@rockmusicman218 ай бұрын
Because the video is about the Soviet Union so it makes sense in that context? And i don't think only Russians called it that but all or most of the Soviet Union did as well.
@xandervk23718 ай бұрын
Indeed, "Great Patriotic War" was invented in order to conceal the aggressive and occupying nature of the Soviet involvement in 1939-41.
@krle79708 ай бұрын
@@xandervk2371they were demons dealing with the devil
@volodyadykun64907 ай бұрын
Ryazan miracle would be on the lies about numbers topic
@celebrityrog8 ай бұрын
Corruption and Soviet Union have the same definition but are just two different ways of saying the same thing. Holds true today with nearly all former USSR nations.
@briangasser9738 ай бұрын
The corruption of Uzbekistan seems similar to Putin's Russia, where the president and defense minister have wealth way beyond their salary.
@benjaminrichey2788 ай бұрын
5:23 is that star lord?
@iDeathMaximuMII8 ай бұрын
Corruption in a Communist State??? Color me shocked!
@Velazquez4life-xf7ts4 ай бұрын
In the u.s. law enforcement investigates itself and finds no wrongdoing.
@GeorgeSemel8 ай бұрын
Cotten is a terrible fabric for people who live as far north as they do in that part of the world. It gets wet, and you run the risk of hypothermia. Never mind that farming is very, very labor-intensive and input-intensive. The corruption part of this little bit of Soviet History is minor Compared to the destruction of the Arial and a few rivers. As usual, what sounds good on paper or in Theory is more damaging than some guys just scamming a few rubles off the top; it's pretty much what the mafia does. The whole thing from the start was a criminal and murderous enterprise, Yet people to this day think it was a wonderful thing the Soviet Union- It was hell on earth, and the stealing here with cotton was really pretty tame by Soviet Communist standards. It also shows how really stupid they all were; they could have traded for cotton, got a better product, and had more economic benefits, too. Oh wait if the did that then gee's they would not be pure in their own minds. Nope they just screwed themselves right into the collapse, no matter the same bunch is doing it again in the present day. The Russians and the other people in that part of the world can't catch a break.
@varana8 ай бұрын
Uzbekistan is rather dry (except in the mountainous areas) and has a sufficiently warm climate. Being north, or growing the plant in general, was never the problem. The need for irrigation in and due to the arid environment, was. And while life in the Soviet Union was certainly not "wonderful", "hell on earth" is really just unnecessarily overblown and unrealistic.
@legionofyuri8 ай бұрын
Interesting to hear about. What causes this type of corruption to prop up in Russia/USSR anyway? The USSR and modern Russian state have two different systems of government and economics but there seems to be many parallels between the corruption of the regional communist parties then and the corruption of the oligarches today.
@omnidroid708 ай бұрын
Hi, this is an absolutely huge topic but I can try to give a reasonably concise answer (for context I'm the writer of this video and of the Soviet-themed videos on this channel). In effect, when Soviet states became independent during/after the collapse of the USSR they tried to transition from state-controlled, socialist economies to free market ones through various types of privatisation processes. However, there were broadly two issues with this. First, most ordinary Soviet citizens had never grown up in a free market economy, so were not really familiar with the concept of private property or ownership and therefore the potential benefits of them. Two, there was an assumption that creating a class of individuals with private property would encourage the development of institutions to protect property rights, for example the rule of law and a more representative political system. In reality though, these problems meant that well-connected and knowledgeable officials who controlled state-owned assets basically took advantage of the privatisation process and hoarded massive wealth for themselves (hence the oligarchs). Thus, political institutions in these countries have largely ended up protecting these individuals as they have the wealth and therefore the power, excluding those who own very little. Ukraine is a really good example of this - with the exception of Zelensky's party, pretty much every political party in the Ukrainian system remains funded or led by an oligarch and serves to advance their interests. Now, why is this corruption so difficult to get rid of? Well, in part its because of what I mentioned above (wealth = power), but its also because of how the Soviet economy operated. Basically, corruption and informality were commonplace as people sought access to goods that the inefficient Soviet economy could not provide. As such, these informal methods of economics have become pretty normalised in most post-Soviet countries and are just the standard way of doing business (with some exceptions). It is also worth noting the divergent paths of post-communist countries in Eastern Europe who were NOT in the USSR (for example, the Czech Republic, Slovakia, Bulgaria etc.). Their political systems were largely based on parliamentary systems due to the legacy of the interwar period, and as such their privatisation processes ended up being much more representative of the population as a whole compared to post-Soviet countries where their systems were largely presidential and thus more prone to power concentration. In Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania - which were in the USSR but managed to successfully get rid of these legacies - their success was basically because they were so desperate to get rid of any and all legacies of Soviet rule that the entire population was far more unified in doing whatever it took to do so. In Russia, Ukraine, etc., there was significant opposition to the economic transition amid the short-term suffering caused by privatisation and price liberalisation, which played into the oligarchs' hands to help them seize control of the political system. Sorry, I said this answer would be concise but its really quite hard to summarise...hope this helped though!
@legionofyuri8 ай бұрын
@@omnidroid70 Thank you very much. I really appreciate the detailed response. That's some interesting development throughout the decades. Are there any books you would recommend for some deep diving into the failures and successes of Russian/Soviet economics? Cheers.
@omnidroid708 ай бұрын
@@legionofyuri the most accessible/non-academic book I could recommend would be Chris Miller's Putinomics: Power and Money in Resurgent Russia, but if you're looking for something a bit more theoretical Henry Hale's Patronal Politics: Eurasian Regime Dynamics in Comparative Perspective is an excellent look at the post-Soviet space more broadly
@legionofyuri8 ай бұрын
@omnidroid70 thanks! I'll check them out.
@frikkiethirion8053Ай бұрын
We're all equal (but some are more equal than others)
@WalterReimer8 ай бұрын
Good grief.
@Grisu198408 ай бұрын
Ok, I have to ask: why is there a vault boy on the desk?
@anzaca18 ай бұрын
Why not?
@alexanderyacht64838 ай бұрын
Another big Soviet scandal of the early 80s was the Boris the Gypsy scandal, which involved Brezhnev's daughter Galina and a diamond smuggling ring. This scandal rocked the Kremlin to its foundations and may have caused the death of Mikhail Suslov. You should do a video on that.
@josedorsaith52617 ай бұрын
Candace Owens revealed some interesting things about the soviet union on her twitter
@EndingSimple8 ай бұрын
I remember what one Soviet citizen said of this time: "They pretended to pay us, so we pretended to work."
@EcclesiastesLiker-py5ts8 ай бұрын
I miss the Aral sea 😢
@firouzUZBEK2 ай бұрын
It is not only scandal. Before cotton scandal USSR forced uzbek nation to harvest millions tons of fish in Aral Sea impulsively. That is what caused aral sea dry out
@MrVanioko7 ай бұрын
My dad led the investigation of this, resulting in jailing lots of top leaders.
@cea908 ай бұрын
Wtf is this background music in KZbin videos these days
@janwitts26886 ай бұрын
I'm surprised they didn't import workers from africa
@alexanderivkin70864 ай бұрын
Central Asia and Caucasus was the Soviet Union´s Africa. Atleast they learned reading and writing.
@ReubenASternАй бұрын
Sounds a lot like what China is going through.
@stefanodadamo68098 ай бұрын
Soviet society sank into corruption, indeed mafia-like economy, once communism as a goal was discredited after Khrushchev.
@xandervk23718 ай бұрын
It was always a fairy tale. Nomenclatura was the ruling class, and it wasn't going anywhere. As a matter of fact, they reinvented themselves as the masters of the new Russia.
@oliverstianhugaas74937 ай бұрын
I literally can't understand how someone can lie about production numbers! 😢
@qjtvaddict8 ай бұрын
Cool
@godfreecharlie8 ай бұрын
Please do a presentation about all the different medals handed out by the Soviet Union. Rashidov seems to have collected a few but I have seen "Heros" festooned with enough medals to keep them at the bottom of Lake Baikal forever. Just how many reasons for medals do they have? Patriotic Leaves Raker to the Great Motherland? Patriotic Consumer and Tester of Russian Vodka and Vomiting While Driving....
@volodyadykun64907 ай бұрын
Why you have showed old division with Uzbekistan not in modern borders and then said nothing of change?
@volodyadykun64907 ай бұрын
Btw you should make video on delimitation of Soviet Central Asia, if you haven't already