How did South Africa get this bad at batting? |

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Jarrod looks at South Africa's Test batting and how Temba Bavuma is not the problem.
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[@satyathota9546]

I think people blame Temba Bavuma less in test match cricket. People have known for years that he is a gritty, patient #5 that played holding innings in test match cricket. He absolutely commands his place in the test team, and should be test captain automatically when Elgar steps down. The problem with Bavuma for a lot of people is his White Ball top order batting, where he is slower than most every White ball batter they have tried in the last 5 years. Reed Hendricks, Rickelton and Janneman Malan have better numbers and just look better, not to mention that Roussouw and Brevis can open as well. It seems to defy (non-quota) logic to keep him in the team, let alone make him captain. This also extends to his ODI #3, where he averages 30 striking at 80 post-pandemic, after being given captaincy as Du Plessis played less, and (no offense to him) seemed to be a downgrade from Du Plessis, Amla, and Roussow

[@joshuacupido4907]

hes a good ODI player, literally only people hate him because of T20

[@seanlooney7061]

Most fair minded SA fans have no issue with Bavuma in Test cricket and recognise he's the best of a bad bunch. He'd certainly score more hundreds (in current form) if his job wasn't to consistently fight fires. The issue with Bavuma is his place in the white ball teams and the fact that he captains SA in T20's and ODI's. He's not good enough for SA in white ball cricket and, whilst you are right to point out the lack of decent batsmen in our red ball side, there's plenty of talent and depth in white ball batters in SA and he is 100% taking a spot that would go to a more deserving player, such as Reeza Hendricks last year.

[@AmanKumar-de1kc]

Reeza Hendricks is better than Temba is T20s but hardly in ODIs. In fact, he's far worse.

[@kriketprayme]

Aiden Markram should be your captain not this guy.

[@AmanKumar-de1kc]

@@kriketprayme Aiden Markram averages 28 in ODIs and has been left out of the Test team coz of an extended run of bad form. Aiden Markram should first cement his place in the squad before being made a captain of anything

[@savgy17]

Temba averages 46 in ODI after his ton against England in the second game. He was already averaging over 40 before that so I don't have a problem with him in the odi team, but he should definitely not be in the t20 team with so many better players than him

[@rugbywindow]

T20 yes, but not ODI. He's a pretty decent opener in 50 overs.

[@udayteja4946]

SA in this period lost guys like Conway, Leus Du Plooy and maybe few others as well. Rilee Rossouw wasn't available for sometime . Now, QDK has retired from red ball game at a prime age. These 4 essentially could have been the core of their contemporary batting lineup had things been better.

[@rugbywindow]

The best players for SA fans are always those who aren't playing. You can't have a low average if you never bat. We need to takke off our rose tinted glasses and say yes, those are good players, but they were never guaranteed to get runs. E.g. Rossouw hasn't scored the big runs we've expeted of him since being back in limited overs cricky.

[@udayteja4946]

@@rugbywindow QDK and Conway have got good redball numbers. Rossouw hasn't even played a Test match.

[@faruquekhan3353]

This had aged so badly. Since this video came out SA has beaten England in the ODI series and had completed the 3rd highest ODI chase in their history.

[@RR_theproahole]

And this video was all about tests wasn't it? They have been horrible in tests continuously.

[@gkirkbride5565]

An odi series where England played around 4 or 5 of their best 11? And this video is about test cricket.

[@ghuiakhaiye3397]

Missing the time when they had great batters like Graeme Smith,Amla, Devilliers,Du Plessis,Jacques Kallis... They also had a lethal bowling lineup which helped them rule test cricket...

[@siddharthtrivedi320]

True Steyn, Pollock, Ntini, Morkel, Kallis being the legendary all rounder

[@nithilanamudhan6260]

Also need to include Herchelle Gibbs. Those South Africa teams were just pure vibes. Just straight up cursed in world cups

[@tirumalad2479]

@@siddharthtrivedi320 vernon philander too

[@jasoneade7978]

steyn makes my all time test 11

[@hendrikdevos551]

@@siddharthtrivedi320 those where great days. Dont forget Fanie, Klusener and Donald.

[@joebob2311productions]

Janneman Malan is one but dont forget Pieter Malan also. Fully agree with you on Markram, I was so happy when he had that breakout season against India and Australia in 2018 and it was so sad to see the decline thereafter.

[@SeeASquaRE]

Jordan Hermann has impressed me the most, he didn't seem hasty and can play the long game looking at him in SA20. He just needs more game time

[@arindamsaha7062]

Hey man, I just want to say that you're doing a great job making these videos. You're choosing the right statistics and also a wide variety of them, which is commendable. Being a Statistics buff myself, i am very happy seeing what you're producing. Keep it up

[@khanyisanimthethwa9330]

Awesome video Thank you Jarrod

[@Uzair_Of_Babylon465]

Fantastic video keep it up your doing amazing job

[@AndoManando]

Great analysis. I couldnt agree more with the amount of talent available in SA that don't get selected. Just one point of order, the criticism by most fans is of the selections, the same applies to Temba, no one is really blaming the individual players, just the selections which dont make much sense really

[@sanjayshetty1533]

Its the problem with their quota, most of their talented batsman r white n they cant get into the team due to quota

[@rupertnikolson2729]

I like this style of video - great job! One small suggestion: as it is difficult to read the exact values from the y-axis could you display the values in the graphs, please? Should be fairly easy in case you are using excel for these charts Keep it up! (:

[@johnnywilson3071]

South Africa have a lot of good young batsmen but they're never getting picked Lions opener Josuha Richards: Average 49 and Lions middle order bat Ryan Rickleton: Average 55 come to mind). Heck they have a genuine allrounder averaging 22 with the ball and 36 with the bat in 4-day cricket and is never getting picked. I know Delano Potgieter's bowling isn't the quickest but Boland proved that you don't need out and out pace to get wickets regularly. The other problem is that South Africa only plays 8 FC games over the whole season, and while the SA20 might allow for more rounds in October rather than another T20 comp its no guarantee that they will provide more FC games in future seasons.

[@nooneknows19]

Tbh 8 fc games is the common fc across the world. Even ranji and the sheffield only play 7 or 8 fc games. Only the county players play a lot.

[@sagarhirani4559]

Great video Jarrod! Was looking forward to this one. Finally I can throw this one in the face of all those who comment rubbish about Temba constantly! I have been the one to do so as well on a couple of occasions, but only when Temba plays T20 cricket for SA.

[@unathimessi8126]

Let's hope Shukri Conrad will have more say in terms of selection of players

[@francissreckofabian01]

If you look at the FC averages SA is 2nd only to India with batsmen who average 50+ However, most of these guys don't get a go in Tests.

[@aemeromedia]

engaging info! 💪

[@tevakibarker8063]

I was wondering this during the test series against Australia.. SAF are one of my favourite teams to watch but this summer was very disappointing

[@rugbywindow]

Thank you for this. A great dissection of the problem. Can you next video please be the solution? I'll forward to Shukri.

[@sjjdjdiejxndjiddjndj]

Mate,Are you from sa?

[@kenoliver8913]

As an Australian, Bavuma reminds me a bit of Steve Smith (though of course not as all-round good). Great in Tests, a very good 50 over guy (though no finisher) and a mediocre T20 player. Just not big and belligerent enough (things which used to be SA strengths, just like on the rugby field). But I agree you can't blame Bavuma for SA's batting woes. Nor can you blame the quota system because your pace attack seriously rivals ours and it is subject to the same system. I watched pretty well all the recent Aussie Test series, either live or on TV. Honestly, your batters were riddled with technical errors (which Ricky Ponting - a famous batting technician - really enjoyed pointing out in the commentary box). So it is not a matter of talent but of coaching. You need a new coaching team.

[@dagfinissocool]

Nice win against England today good batting and beautuful bowling a delight to watch :)

[@sidsathya5]

I feel like me personally Ive never had a problem with Bavuma in tests Ive just always been confused as to why do you have a player like him as a T20 player? ODIs maybe and Tests probably but what was the thought process behind appointing someone who doesnt have a clear place in a T20 team as Captain?

[@rogerjonkers2850]

As far as Temba goes it was mostly for the T20i's for me. He wasn't scoring and was scoring way too slow.

[@TIGERZY2K]

Problem with South African Cricket Team is that their legends retired at very odd times which prevented them from coming close to even winning a World Champion title.Retirements of batsmen like Graeme Smith,AB De Villiers, Hashim Amla & Jean Paul Duminy followed by sidelining of their former captain Faf Du Plessis has completely crippled the mighty batting lineup of South African Cricket Team with captaincy of Temba Bavuma being a huge joke.

[@udayteja4946]

The way Hermann bats in SA20, it is clear that he is someone who puts price on his wicket.

[@theena]

I am with you on Aiden Markam. When I saw him bat a few years ago, he passed my eye test quite easily. And, like you, I had big hopes for him. The fact that he has done nothing to justify the talent and the trust placed in him is a little disappointing. I am hoping he has a Damien Martyn like resurgence towards the latter point in his career. As for Bavuma, gee I wonder why he gets all the shit thrown at him. A mystery.

[@areebsiddiqui758]

Bavuma is criticised for his his performances in white ball cricket, particularly T20s where he is useless. Nobody has a problem with him when it comes to test cricket.

[@RR_theproahole]

I have been thinking that for so long about Markram, when I first saw him, I was pretty sure that this guy's going to be next in the list of great South African batters but he's not lived upto that expectation till this day.

[@Aesyrbane]

Temba's had never been up to test standards statistically when he was selected, however, his mental fortitude is phenomenal and this shows in his test average being so high for someone who probably would never have gotten a look in if he was in another top tier nation. and hes a phenomenal fielder.

[@unathimessi8126]

We should pick Markram in only home tests as he's generally good at home

[@saoirsedeltufo7436]

Looks like Petersen is the immediate option at 3 when he's fit which should shore things up a bit. I don't get why they don't use Markram at home if he can only bat at home and the South Africans are struggling so much at home...

[@sphamandlambambo9990]

He is also struggling there too. The average is inflated by the beginning of his career when he was hot. He has batted everywhere and struggled

[@johnnywilson3071]

Markram I feel has been surpassed by folks like Rickleton and Van Tonder currently. This time last year I'd have him as the first name on the team sheet.

[@nickwhite571]

This aged well

[@AmanKumar-de1kc]

The best case scenario for South Africa would be for the national team to turn their fortunes around by getting in better batsmen and start winning more; for SA20 to be a massive hit and make cricket reach a far bigger audience than it currently does; for quota players to perform on a consistent basis for substantial participation of coloured cricketers at the domestic level for a revision of the quota system; and for the economy of South Africa to grow all this while at a good enough rate to make its cricket market as lucrative as either Austalia or England and CSA to have a far greater say in ICC matters breaking the hegemony of the Big 3. That's the only way to save and advance the project of cricket's globalisation.

[@dannyarcher6370]

You obviously know nothing about South Africa or are smoking some of the good stuff.

[@AmanKumar-de1kc]

@@dannyarcher6370 Both haha. Just here for reactions 😅

[@yookcoote]

Would be great to see some game play footage in these videos just to change it up from the graphs.

[@dogaredeemer2711]

The purple haze had high THC today. i also added some brown gooey material on top

[@vinaykumar-dn5ep]

great video

[@tpjpower]

Great analysis, Jarrod, but are you perhaps overstating the hate for Bavuma in Tests? I’m Australian, so observing from afar, but he is clearly RSA’s best Test batsman right now and was the only one besides Verreynne to finish the recent series with any credit. It’s hard to imagine South African fans could possibly blame Bavuma for their Test team’s fortunes to the extent you suggest.

[@themessiah126]

I miss Captain Smith and Jacques Kallis. They were the core of our test team and we took them for granted alongside Steyn, De Villiers and Amla. We need Justin Langer to come save us in test cricket

[@samuelhonywill8326]

A few people who know South African cricket better than I do have suggested that the first class game is much softer than it used to be and there's a lot of easy runs on offer, which is perhaps why so many have struggled to make the step up to Test cricket. Maybe we're perhaps seeing the endgame of the Kolpak years. Certainly, an SA side with Conway, du Plooy and possibly even van Buuren would be a bit more consistent.

[@untossableboi131]

The answer to fix the proteas is to give Ryan rickleton his chance, his domestic one day scores are amazing, he got 4 centuries in 5 games. And his first class scores are similar aswell, Ryan rickleton has thr ability to score centuries if placed correctly in the order of the team

[@danielharrington3605]

I still think Markram is class (the series against aus and India proved that) but for some reason hasn’t gone on. Maybe he should get more chances at the right place in the order. You’re harsh on Petersen. He has made important runs and looked good doing it. Would’ve been interesting to see him over here. The weird thing is though that the main guys who seem to be next in line are guys who would be outside quota requirements. You would assume that a Rickleton or Stubbs could easily replace de Bruyn, Erwee or van der Dussen, without hurting quotas. I think everyone forgets how badly they’ve been hit by losses due to kolpak etc. Imagine Abbott, Rossouw, Olivier etc with a transition period from their gun side and multiple tests to their name. They lose talent, experience and star power (which equals revenue) based on money and opportunity. Until world cricket get their heads together and stop CA, BCCI and ECB deciding revenues etc. we will continue to have sub par nations outside of that. The SA t20 tournament has been created down the barrel of a gun and it’s destined to fail. It can’t compete with big bash or make a dent in the consciousness of fans in other countries. In every country, fans will still care more about performances in tests and internationals than in domestic hit and giggles (despite the coin the players may get). Every Aussie fan will remember Smith’s tons in the ashes than his sixes ones. Likewise, I imagine everyone in SA will remember de Villiers ton in 17, or Kallis’ first double ton, over Brevis’ ton off nothing in a meaningless t20. Ultimately, it all comes down to cash and opportunity. Countries may shoot themselves in the foot at times, but in order for the international game to prosper it’ll come down to whether the “big 3” decide if it is worth allowing others into their cabal for long term health or if short term revenue wins out (which is the corporate model that most execs take). It’s sickening to see how far SA have fallen from the side that beat us over here in 08/09, 12/13, 16. They didn’t lose an away series for years and they should get more kudos for being the best side between the great Aussie sides and the current Aussie one (or maybe the current Indian one) despite the difficulties they have with money and (understandable) politics. Maybe a greater look into the travails of the domestic and international game in SA would help. There’s more to it then just “they can’t bat and they select the wrong ones”.

[@sanjayshetty1533]

Sa20 is doing pretty good

[@jeremyangelo9852]

Just reminds me of Australia's Test Team After the 06-07 Ashes, Losing McGrath & Warne (A Combined 1271 Test Wickets) Along with Justin Langer & Damien Martyn, Losing over 1/3rd of the Legendary line-up of Australia's Golden age in one year, Losing Adam Gilchrist & Brad Hogg after India in 2008, Matthew Hayden, Andrew Symonds & Brett Lee after South Africa in 2008/09, Within a space of 2 years Australia was a completely different line-up, Instead of McGrath, Lee, Gillespie & Warne... There was Mitchell Johnson, Peter Siddle, Ben Hilfenhaus & Nathan Hauritz..., There were others like Harris, Bollinger, McKay, Doherty, Copeland, Pattinson etc... But within that time Australia Lost a test series to South Africa for the first time at home (and wouldn't win a Home Test series against South Africa till 2022/23), Australia Lost the next 3 Ashes Series, 2009, 2010/2011 & 2013...

[@deanthechamp5669]

Politics and sports don't mix.

[@ayushsinha1813]

Number of test matches is also becoming a small sample size.

[@sanjayshetty1533]

Marco Jansen will solve their all rounder problem

[@PodcastCentral333]

he's a beast

[@ayushsinha1813]

Markram didn't have the support of de Villiers after his first season and he had a fading Amla for support.

[@jamesw5713]

SA fan, been watching them since 1992. The last 5 years or so, when SA go past 300 in a test innings, its like they have scored 600, one of those rarities. As for Bavuma, the guy used to bat too slow down the order for years and I never appreciated him, but since he went up the order in white ball cricket he became a lot more aggressive and deserves to be in the team.

[@MayankSharma01]

The team South Africa fielded in Australia series is so bad that if they were playing in Ahmedabad, Pune or Chennai they would have been obliterated and the world have turned its head on how spin friendly the pitches are in india.

[@barbenheimer736]

Even the SA20 alot of the young SA batsman have great raw hitting power but lack some of the smarts of building proper innings. Hence I'm really not sold on guys like Brevis or Stubbs playing ODIs or Tests until they learn to properly construct an innings. No idea how Rickleton isn't in the Test side though.

[@fahadalam8322]

DeWalt is doing ok for mi Cape

[@craighatto]

@@fahadalam8322 hes really drilling it

[@frednel4326]

Yeah it's sad, like everything else in South Africa cricket is also falling 👎👀, we wer world top cricketers not so long ago

[@twrampage]

A weird thing I noticed about Bavuma. His average against Australia is notably higher than his overall. From memory I think it was something like 9 runs more per innings. Excluding single series flukes, how many batsmen can make that claim?

[@twrampage]

@@HkFinn83 Maybe. I just thought it was odd.

[@ritankarroy4789]

After this generation bows out, SA will have terrible bowling attack as well having numbers as bad as these batters. The reason why the FC average has boomed in the last few years (e.g. Erwee, Petersen, van der Dussen, Verreyenne, de Byune, etc.) is because the crop of good bowlers have moved out of SA plying their trade in other countries (mostly England). The fall between FC and test averages is so steep is because they are really playing club level bowling at FC level and are getting found out at test level. The only guys whose average don't drop much are Elgar and Bavuma - that's because they played fair amount of FC cricket before 2017. These 2 and Zondo are the only ones whose FC average shows their true quality. Every generation in SA have provided 2-3 top quality batters (Kirsten-Cullinan, Smith-Kallis, Amla-de Villiers). None of these guys (except Elgar) will make the bench in SA teams of the last 30 years.

[@chicklechives]

How important is the fact that everyone is comfortable batting in SA? The pitches are as comfortable for visiting batters as anywhere.

[@tristangrant6054]

Who's here after SA chased 350 against England?

[@JohnnyJailBait]

Exception not the rule, I see your “they chased 350” with the test series in Australia

[@tristangrant6054]

@dankem fair enough, I'm just excited the Proteas had a good batting performance

[@blessedslave]

How is wi on top of % pace bowled? They have this roston chase and others bowling spin for long?

[@JarrodKimberYT]

Roston is a part timer. He bowls 22 overs per game and doesn’t play that often. Since dukes have come to West Indies they have leaned towards that.

[@ayushsinha1813]

Raynard van Tonder, Matthew Breetzke, Sinethemba Qeshile are other names.

[@dsw1998]

There is a big culture problem in the Proteas team when a player like Markram cannot score runs. He has all the ability yet he is struggling to score runs. When he came onto the scene he was amazing. Same with QDK a guy with his ability should have been averaging in the 40s. The problem isnt a lack of talent or skill, the problems run much deeper such a shame. Quite interesting stats, seems like every player becomes worse after being picked for the Proteas. I think it's a clear indication that something is wrong within the test team's culture.

[@cdn4767]

Bowling also a problem, on flat wickets they still struggled to bat and couldn’t get wickets, their recent tour to India and Australia exposed that.

[@sphamandlambambo9990]

Bowling ain't a problem you can't expect the bowling to carry you through 3 series against the big 3 game in game out. Besides which teams can bowl well when they always dragging the team from a losing position. Even when they give us a chance by the 2nd innings we ar behind again. The same bowlers are also getting the runs. The same Rabada who was criticized toward the end of the tour was pure sh*t. Flat pitches should mean long spell for both bowlers not for one team. Score 300 once give them the chance to rest and some advantage.

[@cdn4767]

@@sphamandlambambo9990 I think it does, here SA tried to bowl some nuts, which doesn’t work very well on flat pitches. And for some reason the best bowler, Rabada were disappointingly down on pace in this series.

[@anweshpradhan1842]

@@sphamandlambambo9990 bowling is definitely not a big problem rn, but it hasn't been top notch in terms of discipline. Now i know that historically south African fast bowlers do not think too much about being disciplined in thier lengths, but with this weak SA batting lineup they need to be more proactive. They can't afford to give away quick easy runs right now.

[@anweshpradhan1842]

@@cdn4767 Rabada is playing too much cricket which is affecting his speeds. I guess he doesn't want to to get injured and thereby is bowling with lower speeds than usual. Your fast premium bowlers need ample rest as well. SA board isn't doing that.

[@suryar7184]

If they wanted to rest their quicks worth rotating them than play 5 a game. Many games ngidi is almost invisible. Don't think they have sorted out what to do with him. Probably play someone like de bruyn who can bowl some medium pace batting at top 6

[@u-tea7734]

what about this series with england.

[@mountainman9145]

Markram is technically the best batsman in SA. You have no option but to stick with this type of player in test cricket and just hope they play themselves into some form. The other option is what the selectors have done at the moment - which is pick guys who seemingly look the part at first class level but are never going to make it in the cauldron of test cricket as their techniques or temperament are not at the required standard.

[@user-uc1xr2fc9z]

1:26 Best bowling team ? I'd doubt that considering their poor performance in Australia I'd doubt that. I only felt their average was low was cause of their difficult wickets in South Africa, which in many ways exposes the bowlers to flat wickets.

[@ludgang5]

SA batting seems to be following the downward path of the West Indies - plus a number of SA born players have regularly done well for England and New Zealand, if you were to add Conway and Dawid Malan to the side, the batting unit would be much stronger

[@saoirsedeltufo7436]

Malan was born in England...

[@Tbuy1]

Marnus Labuschagne is another big loss to South African batting too. Quite a top order they could have had, although they have lost players to Australia, England, and New Zealand for longer than I can remember, so it's not exactly new. Perhaps the SA20 will keep this generation in South Africa more.

[@saoirsedeltufo7436]

@@Tbuy1 In fairness Marnus moved when he was 10, it's not like he moved for cricketing reasons

[@Tbuy1]

@@saoirsedeltufo7436 You're absolutely right, and I'm definitely not criticising. I really dislike it when people use a player's place of birth as a stick to beat opposition teams with, so that certainly wasn't my intention. People emigrate all the time, for all kinds of reasons, including for work, and I have no objection to them representing whatever nation that they qualify for. Trying to draw any distinction between different emigrations almost always becomes arbitrary. For me it's just a fun way of imagining hypothetical teams, or an alternate reality in which Hilton Cartwright and Gary Ballance are racing to surpass Graeme Hick's imaginary record for most test runs for Zimbabwe.

[@saoirsedeltufo7436]

@@Tbuy1 Yup, fair enough! Totally agree with you there

[@sugarnads]

Bring faf back to fuck around with the ball.

[@n-tertainmentx-tended4760]

Their best talent doesn't want to play test cricket for SAF. De Kok used a lame excuse for quitting because he despised the politics. De Villiers and Du Plessis did the same. Rilee Rossouw would rather play counties cricket, which pretty much tells the full story. At this point they may as well throw David Miller into the test squad.

[@JohnnyJailBait]

The politics is true, it is not a bs excuse, they want to play a sport not be hamstrung by Marxism in fking sport. So let SA cricket die with its quota system which in itself is discriminatory. SA did the same thing with it’s public servants and engineers, and now they are going down fast. Ask Zimbabwe how that went when they pushed the white farmers out, the 1% of farmers who fed 90% of the population.... yeah Zimbabwe went through a famine as needed foreign aid to feed their people, the iron being most of the aid come from predominantly white countries, the joke writes itself, oh and then Zimbabwe begged for those farmers to come back. What double digit iq scoring person thought it was a good idea kicking out the very people who had the skill set to farm a land that was never farmable in its entire history.... oh Marxism you beautiful thing

[@lemtoalemwalling8773]

CSA MUST select Players based on Talent not colour. Be it all White, be it all coloured, be it all blacks, if they play good cricket and if they are talented, no problem.

[@monitor-mindtheover-void6712]

I truly hope this is not West Indies 2.0

[@bayek1802]

Im always stunned as to how poor Markram’s returns are. He’s obviously out of his depth, look at his test and odi averages and lack of 100’s… yet no one questions his place in the team!?!? South Africa aint no cricketing powerhouse if someone as average as Aiden Markram is a consistent member of the side.

[@larrygerry985]

It is selection policy. The amount of good first class players who left to play in England, Netherlands, New Zealand etc is significant. It diminishes standards across the board. You can't afford to lose a Wagner etc

[@saoirsedeltufo7436]

In fairness the Wagner thing was an inevitability and Jarrod talks about him in the Wagner video he did way back when

[@sphamandlambambo9990]

Wagner over Steyn? Morkel? Vern? Rabada,Norjte? 😅🤣🤣. Clearly you ain't watching he can't get game for NZ too, neither did he until he started bowling short. Ngidi our default 4th seamer averages 22 something Wagner would dream of. He Couldn't buy a wicket this season. Players have always left for more money nothing new. Players leaving doesn't suddenly make them great. Wagner wouldn't be first choice in a domestic team here bruv. Jokes aside.

[@dannyarcher6370]

@@sphamandlambambo9990 Ah, you must vote ANC and can't see the parallels with how all the intellectual capital of white people from the country has gutted the economy. Or is it ZANU-PF?

[@sphamandlambambo9990]

@@dannyarcher6370 okay

[@occularpatdown]

Oh, so now we appreciate kallis. Also our batting is terrible. All of them, including temba.

[@DanishSatkut]

I still can't believe India's bowling has been the best in the last 5 years. Especially if you compare with what Australia has to offer. Just shows how far we have come.

[@royalewithcheese5639]

This is literally a video about south africa...no one asked for your opinion

[@gauravpatel8379]

India's middle lower order and bowlers have been winning them matches in last 3 4 years.

[@krodh9946]

What bothers me is that we lost to this SA team 2-1 in the test series. Never did I see our bowlers look so impotent as they did in this series and the one-off England test.

[@Uzair_Of_Babylon465]

Not as bad as Pakistan

[@saoirsedeltufo7436]

It would be interesting to look at home vs. away (or even subcontinent vs. fully away)

[@akshayganesh4144]

Most ppl blame bavuma because he is the beneficiary of quota system.

[@mrdaman99]

Ntini,Gibbs,ashwell prince,rabada,langveldt,ngidi,duminy,reeza,keegan peterson,philander etc.., are also beneficiary of quota system. Rise above hate. First imagine yourself in shoes of the backwards, who were deprived of literally each and every privilege which whites have enjoyed for centuries.

[@mrdaman99]

And their white players are the ones who have choked at the top, the great Donald being the biggest example

[@speed0383]

SA sticking to Bevuma as their T20 captain when their own franchises (driven purely by money and hence logic ) won’t even pick him as a player , clearly shows that SA will never learn and will continue to be illogical in team selection. They deserve to lose until they figure out how to strike the right balance in societal issues and cricket skills.

[@FlyingBoer]

Lot of players left Kolpak Contract for England that's why South Africa is bad

[@farazalam5772]

SA only good Format they’re a genuine threat is in T20s

[@rahulsrinivas3224]

Umesh Yadav is that good?

[@mrdaman99]

He was a better bowler than ishant but unfortunately was subjected to politics or favoritism from management/captain

[@arijitsinha6485]

I think south africa is still good enough to have beaten Holland and easily reach semifinals of the world cup

[@youtubeonly7271]

What happened to Zubayr Hamza??

[@AneesMohamed]

​@SA Cricket Talent his dad's heart medication

[@RatelHBadger]

South Africa can bat... how about ask Gary Stead how the hell NZ got bundled for 108?

[@dcbbot]

Perhaps we can ask how the hell India got bundled out for 38 against Australia. It’s a lot more relevant as this is about test match batting. If SA could bat, they’d be a top 3 team with their bowling line up. The numbers clearly show them to be the 2nd worst batting side and the worst away from home. Isolated one offs are exceptions that prove the opposite.

[@RatelHBadger]

@@dcbbot good point. Still, much like India I guess, how the heck does a team that makes it to successive "world cup" finals in recent times, get bungled out so easily. When up until recently being almost unstoppable.

[@dcbbot]

@@RatelHBadger nz’s ODI side is in transition and without Williamson and the mystifying selection of Nicholls they’re going to be inconsistent. Especially with Latham’s form deserting him. I also think they went too hard as they knew their current bowling line up (missing 5 of their top 7 bowlers, only 3rd and 5th available) means they have to score above par. NZ, like Pakistan, are typically a bowling team. Restricting teams to par totals and consistently knocking them off. Playing against this new India, in India, with this bowling lineup was always going to be extremely challenging.

[@RatelHBadger]

@@dcbbot I'm all for blooding new talent, especially because we know there aren't many years left in the top blokes that have ridden the wave for the last say 10 years since the 2011 World Cup final. But, that team to India played like a 3rd 11. I fear we are staring down the Barrell of the 90's bits n pieces team of dibbly dibbly mediums bowlers and batsman who string 50's together but never dominate.

[@dcbbot]

@@RatelHBadger It wasn't pace that was the problem, it was accuracy and the abiltiy to consistently move the ball. Shipley can but sprayed it all around due to nerves. The injuries to Matt Henry and Ish Sodhi came at the wrong time. i imagine they wanted to blood ONE new bowelr a game. But with so many top bowlers out... India in India is not the ebst tiem to do so.

[@5kizashi]

South Africa lost many of its next generation cricketers to political correctness and Kolpack deals. Leus Du Plooy, Jacques Rudolph, Marchant De Lange, Duane Olivier, Dane Vilas, Colin Ingram are just a few who couldn't play for South Africa much. Add some of these in the present setup and then analyse the team. A few years back there was this name which cropped up many times, Rudy Seconds. Where is he today? South Africa have themselves to blame for the state of their cricket.

[@BabadookJesus]

Aged like milk

[@6uiti]

It's politics , it like the anc is batting out there and the players forced to knee for blm

[@echochamber8350]

It's just brilliant bowling.

[@remembertochangename3557]

jarrod, i too have been trying to adopt the lesbian appearance/style

[@razilH]

A Like here for 1st Comment plZ ...

[@palamj2]

So it’s global warmings fault? 😂

[@palamj2]

So it’s global warmings fault? 😂