How Do Christians View Noah's Flood?

[@jackjones3657]

God bless Dr. Ross. I don't doubt he is a genuine Christ follower. Where he is off here is placing the focus on scientific process first. The creation itself is inexplicable to us humans since we, as Christians, acknowledge it has come from The omnipotent, omnipresent, omniscient Creator. "Science" will never explain it to the satisfaction of man, and as Scripture says the unbelieving heart of most people would simply not accept it anyhow. We must take the Words of Scripture on faith to be what to us seems impossible or most improbable. It's why we call them miracles.

[@paulbriggs3072]

I agree. Actually Hugh Ross is off on other things as well. He believes the universe is billions of years old, and other things that he twists scriptures to accept.

[@nolanmckain2061]

If Siri was a man he would be talking like Dr. H. Ross he got a sharp and clear voice.

[@amaizingworld880]

Once the boat was at sea in deep water, the movement of the earth and tsunamis wouldnt effect the boat as much. Not to mention, God was caring for the boat and passangers. Dont limit God to your own inability to comprehend Him and His work.

[@williamniland761]

Hugh Really goes into lala land with his attempt to fit his evolution world view into the Bible.

[@joshisachildoflight]

He didn’t even give us his view on the flood, he literally gave us common views on the flood and gave us advice on how to use scripture to pick the right flood model.

[@SOULRELIEF22]

JESUS IS RETURNING SOON! ST JOHN 3:16! ❤️ HALLELUJAH! ❤️✝️❤️

[@waynelawson1235]

What nonbelievers lack: thinking like God not man.

[@davewilliams5102]

what believers lack is a brain! Checkmate!

[@Bimbo-Balls]

@@davewilliams5102 Lol

[@carbon273]

Christianity is an evidence based religion though.

[@gameboy2539]

@@carbon273 How?

[@Lazarus-p8l]

@@carbon273 lol 😂

[@jeffspearman5678]

Regardless of the tectonic activity in the Flood, if God ordained that the ark would survive, it certainly would have.

[@KD-hi6hh]

If you want to believe this, go for it. God is a god of miracles, after all, and with God nothing is impossible (so they say). But, please, I wish people would stop trying to come up with rational-sounding and pseudo-scientific explanations for how it was all possible or how the story could possibly make any sort of sense. Just admit it was impossible and say that God can do impossible things, end of story. Stop trying to prove that your illogical and irrational beliefs are based in science and just own your beliefs for what they are

[@jessebryant9233]

@@KD-hi6hh So they say? ... As for your other claims... Illogical and irrational? How so? How did you come to that conclusion? Hey, you too can believe whatever you like, doesn't make what you believe true or what the Bible says false. And if you want to follow a false teacher like Hugh Ross with his 'wresting' from the scriptures and pseudo-intellectual nonsense that he spouts so authoritatively and matter-of-factually, then don't act like you are also a Bible believer at the same time. The two are incompatible. (Yeah, I can do what you do too! Is the discussion progressing... or are we at an impasse?)

[@jeannetteparry5587]

@@KD-hi6hh "Stop trying to prove that your illogical and irrational beliefs are based in science and just own your beliefs for what they are" With all due respect, I could say exactly the same to you! ;-) The thing is we all make assumptions. Sometimes they seem reasonable to other people and sometimes they don't. But the wrong starting assumption results in the wrong conclusion, however logical the reasoning seems. You assumption is that there are no grounds for believing a worldwide flood ever happened because "Science" disproves it. But have you ever, honestly examined the evidence for the opposite assumption, that the Bible though not a science or a history book as such contains true historical accounts that do not conflict with science? If not, your beliefs are also "Illogical and irrational". Two questions to begin. 1. What does the Bible actually say happened? 2. How consistent is it with the evidence we have? #1. God told Noah to build a wooden boat about the size and shape of a modern tanker or container ship. When all was ready, God sent pairs of different kinds of land animals and birds (NOT species as we know them, the original word means something wider than that, such as the horse kind, the cat kind, the rodent kind, the sheep/goat kind (they can still interbreed), the parrot kind, or the dinosaur kind(s) - there were a number of dinosaurs with very different body plans. Estimates have been made that maybe a few thousand pairs maximum would be needed, of average size no bigger than a cow, with plenty of room for them and food stores. The flood began with what seems to have been a violent breaking up of the whole surface of the earth and massive release of water from inside earth's crust as well as rain (it seems there are still huge amounts of water trapped inside the rocks - more than in the present oceans). Water eventually rose to 15 cubits above the highest mountains (about 22ft or so) before draining off again. the Ark was about twice that high, but of course its lower part would have been under water. This would NOT have affected air pressure or oxygen concentration (though there could have been changes to the composition of gases, such as lowered CO2?) because the atmosphere would rise with the water level. Psalm 104 contains a possible suggestion how this might have happened "5 He set the earth on its foundations, so that it should never be moved. 6 You covered it with the deep as with a garment; the waters stood above the mountains. 7 At your rebuke they fled; at the sound of your thunder they took to flight. 8 The mountains rose, the valleys sank down to the place that you appointed for them. 9 You set a boundary that they may not pass, so that they might not again cover the earth." In other words, mountains rose and the sea floor dropped down, allowing massive run off. #2. This post is already far too long but if you bother to look, ALL the scientific evidence (geology, palaeontology, anthropology etc is 100% consistent with a massive and sudden worldwide Flood. Consistent with does not = proof, but does mean that anyone - however many letters he has after his name - who scoffs at at least the possibility the Biblical account is historic is a fool. The Bible says so (eg Psalm 14)!

[@KD-hi6hh]

@@jeannetteparry5587 Wow, that was a long response, lol - Thank you...I'll try and keep it short: If you study basic Science the overwhelming consensus is that; Zoology disproves Noah's Flood, Geology disproves Noah's Flood, Archaeology disproves Noah's Flood, Anthropology disproves Noah's Flood, Meteorology disproves Noah's Flood, Dendrochronology disproves Noah's flood, Paleontology disproves Noah's Flood and it's the ignorance and incredulity of blind faith Christians that refuse to accept "REAL" evidence by "REAL" Scientists - who do study this for a living. You guys indignantly follow and believe pseudoscience Young Earth Creationists (AIG et al) who are the laughing stock of the legitimate Science industry.....Cheers 🍻

[@KD-hi6hh]

Further, if you one reads what you posted carefully, you can see that you prove my original point - YOU NEED GOD TO PERFORM MIRACLES TO MAKE YOUR "STORY" WORK !!! lol lol ......"When all was ready, God sent pairs of different kinds of land animals and birds"......You have to first prove God exists (which you can't) before you insert him as performing tasks - and - this is what you guys do; you need God's "miracles" to solve what you cannot. Unlike legitimate Science that uses evidence that can be tested.

[@kl.johnny2232]

FORGET!!! about The Great Flood of Prophet Noah's time! The GREATEST WORRY for the human race in the 21st Century is HOW BEST To survive the Second Great Flood in human history!

[@VBrinkV]

God promised He wiuld never flood the earth with water again, and He gave the rainbow as a sign of peace. You are right, the second flood will be with Fire.

[@bighutto7875]

VBrinkV God didn’t give us the rainbow, he juts showed one, it’s a common misconception. Rainbows were sprung before Noah’s ark

[@samthegreekboy6812]

I find it just as hard to believe the local flood that Dr. Ross describes as I do the world wide flood, even in the local flood scenerio the flood waters were above the high hills for months, how can that be? also, the area from the Persian gulf to the mountains of Ararat, from Mesopotamia to the south Arabian Peninsula would have to be a basin surrounded by hills or mountains like a valley to hold that water in. is the area a basin? How can water rise many feet for months without barrier walls?

[@progodspeed2311]

Samthegreek Boy- Well it’s simple... land throughout the Earth (or specifically the Eurasian & African continent for the local-flood parameters) are NOT all 0 feet above seawater. There are varying elevations and altitudes of land varying from 0-22,000 feet above sea level (the Aconcagua). Note: humans can’t survive above 26,000 ft, with no mammals recorded to living past 16,400ft So, these “barriers” are the inclined slopes of the landmass- not basins. In simplest terms, a flood originating from the Atlantic won’t get too far inland because they can’t continually climb varying altitudes. They will also eventually recede because as they go up the inclined altitudes, they will fall back through decline. Remember that there are gaps that exist between mountain ranges to allow them to fall back so as not to get trapped as a they would in a basin.

[@progodspeed2311]

Even if there was flood to cover the entire planet, then it would have to exceed 30,000 ft, which is Mt. Everest (29,035 ft above sea level). And if you’ll note again, humans cannot live above 26,000 ft without special modernized equipment.

[@progodspeed2311]

And finally... I say that a global flood theory is still not far-fetched still, for all you’ll have to do is prove that the life in Noah’s ark could still survive at high altitudes from the oxygen that the 30,000ft high oceans could provide. Blessings

[@progodspeed2311]

Valpurgis Tachyon true... but they grow 0.15 inches per year today. So unless Noah’s ark happened like 100,000 years ago, then the animals would’ve still face the same problems

[@Godisgood173]

@Tomas Krukas I agree with you in respect of God’s capability to go ANYTHING, Only God could get all those animals to turn up at the ark, walk calmly in to it and live in a confined space for an extended period. I’ve heard Huw Ross preach on this topic and he stated that Noah would of taken enough meat for carnivores. But I don’t agree with that. It’s within Gods capability to stop the animals needing food or to eat hay/straw because I’m sure it says in the Bible that humans and animal’s didn’t eat meat until after the flood. I should make it clear that I don’t mean the humans ate hay/straw, just the animals!

[@JonathanGrandt]

So basically…. Let’s talk about the flood as if God doesn’t exist and there was nothing miraculous about it…

[@backinaflash2107]

Genesis7:17-24

[@jessebryant9233]

Yeah, he doesn't seem to be actually reading the Bible, does he?

[@Canelo77]

If the flood was not world wide then why would Noah build an arkk??? If it was a local flood then he just would have walked to safety..and why bring animals into an ark to preserve each kind?? This guy makes no sense!

[@thoughtsurferzone5012]

Larger question. Why not just kill all the bad people with a heart attack?

[@cosminbryant1243]

@@thoughtsurferzone5012 if he did that that would mean every one would die including you and me because he would have done it even today Romans say that we are sinned and come short of the glory of god

[@kathleenhendrix6280]

World wide not global

[@maxbauerhour]

It's pretty funny to watch people wriggle their way out of what the book says. Oh, and Hugh Ross is wrong. If this was a local flood, God would have told Noah to move... He gave him like 100 years heads up. Doh.. there I go with logic again.

[@sethcanoy7727]

The reason God didn't tell noah to move, was so that Noah could preach rightouness to his neighbors

[@LJVCovers]

I'm not so sure people are "wriggling out of what the book says". It's all about semantics. There's ancient language scholars who take different sides of the argument. I personally don't believe it is a salvation issue whether or not you believe in local or global flood models. Also, something I've learned, you cannot speak for God. That's outrageous and absurd. You said if Noah had 100 years, God would have just said to move. But please realize that that is what YOU would have told Noah. God does as He wills and we are not capable of making judgment-call statements like that.

[@maxbauerhour]

LJVCovers _There's ancient language scholars who take different sides of the argument._ BullSh*t Produce one scholar who reads, speaks, and writes Aramaic, Hebrew and Greek. 55 Scholars who could do just that, translated the KJV. _I personally don't believe it is a salvation issue whether or not you believe in local or global flood models._ No, but what can you base your theology on if you don't believe the Bible? How do you know what is true and what is a lie? We aren't talking about words that have any sort of metaphoric meaning either.. Genesis 6:13King James Version (KJV) 13 And God said unto Noah, The end of *all flesh* is come before me; for *the earth* is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth. Genesis 7:19King James Version (KJV) 19 And the waters *prevailed exceedingly upon the earth*; and *all* the high hills, that were *under the whole heaven*, were *covered*. --------------------------------------- If you think this scripture doesn't mean the whole Earth was covered, you cannot read. _Also, something I've learned, you cannot speak for God._ Really? Who are all those people in the Bible speaking God's Word? Oh, and I am not speaking for God, I am simply pointing out what He already said. _God does as He wills and we are not capable of making judgment-call statements like that._ Begging the question.. The Bible commands us to do, point out doctrine that is contrary to the scriptures. (Things that do not conform to the mind of God) Over in Bible believing Christianity we call that apologetics. I suggest you get yourself a KJV bible and start to read it, or get the free firefighters audio bible mp3's off the internet,

[@LJVCovers]

If you're going to use language like that and make biased statements, then I know that going back and forth will change no ones mind. I'm not here to tote around and showcase my knowledge.

[@maxbauerhour]

LJVCovers I'd like to add that I am not trying to be an ass, even though it comes off that way. I am pointing out there is a proper way to make biblical arguments, and just running off the opinions of men is not one of them. I apologize for if you took offense to my original remarks.

[@ingvaraberge7037]

This video ends with no clear and well-reasoned conclusion and that confuses me. The question of this video is something that has interested me since I learned the basics of geology many years ago. I loved geology and the tool it provided to better understand the world around me. On the other hand, I had no problems seeing the conflict with the first chapters of Genesis, and not only with Genesis, but also with several passages in the New Testament that require a literal understanding of the flood story in particular. As far as I can see, there are no simple solutions to this dilemma. The notion that all or most fossil bearing rocks on earth were formed during the Great Flood has gained much popularity and has even attracted a number of real scientists. I think, however, it is quite clear that something like this would not be possible within the frames of the laws of nature that we know of. Nor does it have to be, we could very well view the entire flood as a miracle. But that, on the other hand, excludes it from the scope of scientific investigation and hence renders meaningless the scientific flood geology that these groups try to establish. One could also take another approach, that of the apparent age, that the earth is actually only 6000 years old but appears to be seveal billions. That solves every problem exept for that of the flood. If the fossil bearing rocks were there from creation, where are then the marks of the global flood? Did a major event like this pass by without leaving any visible traces? That makes the nature of the flood just as miraculous as the first approach. If we, on the other hand, go for a version of old earth creationism, that also creates a number of problems. First of all, it basically requires a symbolic reading of the first chapters of Genesis. Secondly, geology and evolution are so tightly interwoven that this view almost inevitably will lead into theistic evolution. Which again has a number of problems to it, espessially that of God using suffering and death as a tool to create the world we see around us. And the flood story in this frame would most likely be about some local flood, which does not really fit with the picture of the flood drawn in the Bible.

[@RH-vl2wy]

If you can’t believe in the beginning, then you can’t believe in the fact that God’s son came in the flesh and rose from the dead!!! It’s that simple…. But that’s your choice!!! It’s all true, or it’s all false!!!

[@MrHowdeedodee]

Noah's flood is preposterous. If you get up above the high mountains, the water freezes, and the Ark and all of its inhabitants freeze also. If the plants and trees are all under water, there isn't anything to produce oxygen for any animals or people to breathe. Just once have the courage to face the truth without running away.

[@ciscodealmeida8541]

God was not patient with his creation to destroy most life just after a short period..we dont know anything Pre Flood.

[@andrewtannenbaum1]

It all comess to a head with Romans 10:9&10. The church says I can only have faith and belief in Christ if I believe in the implausible account of the flood, I say, because I believe, the flood is a sufficient narrative for doctrine and reproof. End of the story. The church is being both surreptitious and downright manipulative with regard to inerrancy.

[@oliverjamito9902]

How did the flood happen? My brothers and sisters, do you think the earth tilted during the flood?

[@jessebryant9233]

1. It isn't implausible. 2. The church says? No it doesn't. 3. Which parts of Genesis do you accept as historical narrative and which parts to you believe are just stories for "doctrine and reproof"? Where and why do you draw such a line?

[@jeannetteparry5587]

Only implausible because you have either been brainwashed or chosen the opposite belief, without any evidence except that which charlatans like Dr Ross has cooked up out of his ignorance. However well qualified in other matters, he is VERY ignorant on this subject.

[@jeannetteparry5587]

@@oliverjamito9902 We can only speculate, but from the evidence (biblical and scientific) it seems the earth's surface violently cracked open releasing water that had been stored under pressure within rocks deep in the crust, producing huge earthquakes and volcanic activity. The cracks must have spread catastrophically. One process is called runaway subduction, which has been demonstrated scientifically could happen if the forces were great enough. The present tectonic plates (gigantic slabs or rock on which the continents ride) are evidence of some such process.

[@oliverjamito9902]

@@jeannetteparry5587 luv ya truly! Make more beautiful sisters like you. Is like what is the true meaning of utterance?

[@gregjones2217]

Without common sense or logic.

[@WalterRMattfeld]

In 1966 Professor Nahum Sarna noted there was no geologic evidence for Noah's Flood: "...the science of geology offers no evidence in support of the notion that the earth's surface was at any time after the appearance of homo sapiens on earth submerged, wholly or in large part...excavations at the site of ancient Jericho...revealed a walled town dating back nine thousand years. Examination of the ruins of the various levels of more-or-less continuous occupation throughout this period shows no accumulation of clay deposits, the tell-tale evidence of extensive flooding." (pp. 38-39, "The Flood." Nahum Sarna. Understanding Genesis, The Heritage of Biblical Israel. Schoken Books. New York. 1966). Professor Avi-Yonah noted Jericho had been founded circa 9,687 BC in the pre-pottery neolithic period. At no point in time until the site's abandoment circa 587 BC after being destroyed by the Babylonians, was there found evidence of a worldwide universal Flood. Some scholars date Noah's Flood to circa 2340 BC, subtract that date from Jericho's founding circa 9,687 BC and we have the city being in existence for 7,347 years before Noah's Flood allegedly occurred. Yet there is no flood silt evidence for the 3rd millennium BC nor any other date at Jericho. Conclusions: Moses, Jesus and Mohammed erred in claiming Noah's Flood was areal event that destroyed the earth and covered its mountains. For had such been true the flood silt would have been found in Jericho, but none were found. See p. 553 for the date of Jericho's founding in "Jericho," Micael Avi-Yonah, editor. Encyclopedia of Archaeological Excavations in the Holy Land. Vol. 2, Prentice Hall, New Jersey, 1976. The findings suggest Moses, Jesus, and Mohammed the Prophet are pious frauds, for they claimed a flood that never happened. The Torah, Bible and Quran are not divine revelations for all erred in claiming Noah's Flood was a real event.

[@webbloggold]

THIS GUY IS A FRAUD OF CHRISTIAN NOW FOR THIS . THIS PROVES THE BIBLICAL FLOOD BECAUSE ENOUGH WATER BELOW EARTH TO FLOOD THE WHOLE WORLD www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3960442/An-ocean-water-620-miles-Earth-s-surface-dries-life-planet-END.html

[@zixzysm]

webbloggold you missed the quote "If there was no water in the Earth's interior, mantle convection would be inefficient and would eventually cease. 'The surface expression of the mantle convection is plate motion (the process by which volcanoes are created)." No water in those deep places - plate motion stops and mantle convection slows down. You have actually provided an argument against a global flood, since if mantle convection slows down too much, this will erase all life. Not just wicked humans. Without it, we not only lose plate tectonics but also we lose our magnetic field. This was obviously not what God wanted.

[@jeannetteparry5587]

@@zixzysm I don't follow your reasoning. Of course things are slowing down or degenerating, including earth's magnetic field and tectonic plate movement. Which shows that the Solar System can't be millions of years old as some imagine. There are still very geologically active moons of some planets, that puzzle the experts (Enceladus for example), and the magnetic fields of many are far stronger than they "Should" be and decaying too fast to support more than several thousand years of such degeneration.

[@zixzysm]

wow. A four year old comment. I guess I should be impressed and honoured that someone dug it up. How come you can’t follow my reasoning? It is not even mine. Just look at the video and then read about how mantle convection works. Yes, things slow down. They slow down differently depending on their mass, their material and the external forces working on them. It is basic physics. A rubber ball rolls for longer over a wood floor than a rubber block glides over it, when pushing both with the same force. But an ice block glides longer over wet ice than the rubber block glides over the wooden floor. A big, heavy block of ice is harder to stop than a big, light block of styrofoam.

[@jackwrightsman5146]

Have you ever felt guilty about anything at all? That's GOD talking to us. He chose YOU. Think about that. You wouldn't exist unless he wanted you to exist. The only way to bridge the gap between us and God is Jesus. That's why he died for us. If you believe that even one excerpt in the Bible is wrong, than surely the entire Bible is wrong. The difference between right and wrong has been imprinted within us, that is God's built in moral compass. A supernatural God that created everything, including us, must have an intelligent purpose for what we call reality. We do not have the capacity to understand, nor should we. Faith is relative, as we have faith in our parents, are teachers, and are peers. We have faith in them because even if they are not in plain view of us, we still believe that they will continue to help and support and love us. Stop over thinking everything. When you feel bad about seeing a disabled person laboring to walk and then looks you in the eye, what do you do. THAT is the bridge between you and God, thanks to Jesus. It's free will. And your choice.

[@StanWilhite]

@Jack Wrightsman I totally agree.....if you believe 1 thing in the Bible is wrong, then you shouldn't take it as the truth. That should be enough info for any educated person to know what to believe, since there's a mountain of discrepancies and inaccuracies in the book......which is all it is......sorry.

[@johnchapman9487]

Nah. The big G man is either not real, an evil narcissist, or doesn’t give two shits about humans

[@nadinegomez8858]

how do you reconcile the flood though?

[@patldennis]

Why so many sperm involved in a fertilization event then? Why not just one?

[@cosminbryant1243]

If that’s right than god is breaking his promise to never again flood the earth but we see and have floods like this today that he is talking about so there’s is a error here I hate to say it

[@THUTH-ix3tt]

So know we know were Noah's Flood story came from, the Black Sea flood.

[@gerryquinn5578]

Science doesn't say anything. Scientists do.

[@Stan6468]

Wow, Hugh Ross is not a believer in God's Word but he puts his own opinion above that of God's. By the way, there is extraordinary amount of evidence of a World Wide Flood.

[@Gamefan86]

+Stan lk "there is extraordinary amount of evidence of a World Wide Flood" lol good joke.

[@captainbryce1]

You are not a true believer. You fail to test everything that is said as the bible commands. You substitute your own opinion above that of God's. Hugh Ross believes in a "world wide flood". He does not support a "global flood" because there is ZERO evidence to support that, and indeed it defies known physics.

[@Stan6468]

21 And all flesh died that moved on the earth: birds and cattle and beasts and every creeping thing that creeps on the earth, and every man. 22 All in whose nostrils was the breath of the spirit of life, all that was on the dry land, died. 23 So He destroyed all living things which were on the face of the ground: both man and cattle, creeping thing and bird of the air. They were destroyed from the earth. Gen 7:21-23 (NKJV)Do you believe God's Word or no? Clearly, it says Earth, all living things that has breath on EARTH!!!!!!!!Yes, there is plenty of evidence but you need to look if you are sincere about truth. Mike Riddle I think has this on his videos, you may enjoy.

[@captainbryce1]

The bible is not scientific "evidence" of anything. All known scientific evidence and the overwhelming majority of reputable geologists, physicists, biologists, and astronomers believe that science points to an old earth, where there was no global flood, and one were all species evolved naturally. I believe in God's word - not a 16th century Englishman's forced interpretation of it. Your problem is that you are bound to the King James Bible, and therefore his authorized translators interpretation of scripture (which is incorrect). Scripture must be interpreted as the authors intended it to be understood by the original audience they preached to would have understood it in biblical Hebrew. Not by your own understanding. Earth, ground, land, country, and region are all synonymous words in the original language, and nearly always refers to a local region as related to the men the story is speaking about. In this case, the entire story takes place in Mesopotamia, not in other parts of the world. There were no people in Australia or South America, so why would those places need to be flooded in order to destroy all man? So the idea that it could have mean "globe" makes no sense.

[@ralph4lyf]

Wow evidence. That's a huge claim for a story that's still considered mythological and has not been acepted by modern day scientist. Due to the fact of common sense, let's see just a few of the many of 1,000 failures of this, ants, millions of species of insects, all the shit of every animal, Carnívoros not eating the herbivores, what about penguins, polar bears, oh yeah Kola, kangaroos, birds, flees tics, also it took 1,000 of slaves to build the pyramids how did an elderly man did this