How do Tamriel's Mixed Species & Race Couples Work? - The Elder Scrolls Lore

[@dragonberrymead9525]

Imagine if Altmer had dating apps like we do? Their profiles would be like "Sorry, I only date Mer with REALLY pointed ears." "No round ears please." "If your cheekbones can't poke my eye out, don't bother."

[@wild180]

Peak comment

[@Cryin.r.n]

You made me choke on my milk on that second line. 😂

[@Deinareia]

And they'd still get looked down by the traditionalist, because their horoscopes (observed by a learned 3rd party over 20 years) do not seem auspicious enough.

[@Deatheater4444]

"No mer under 8"1'."

[@KDB349]

That's sad but true lol. The fact that people like that exist in our time is wild. Not shaming or hating on people for liking what they like but still. It's the condescending nature of it.

[@espurr3496]

Altmer calling sex with Bosmer bestiality is crazy

[@CommanderM117]

they also practice Eugenics so marying relatives is not uncommon.

[@KDB349]

Wouldn't expect anything else from high elves. It's crazy how they pretty much hate everybody unanimously lol

[@DrEgonCholakian]

Bosmer in lore specifically the ones in Valenwood are monstrous little freaks

[@malekiththeeternityking5433]

Based Altmer

[@pedrohenriquedecarvalhogon1453]

im not racist, BUT i swear to god when i see a high elf i just can't control myself

[@saluteadezio7893]

Never ask a Stormcloak what race is his GF

[@Geeler]

The strongest Nord warriors arriving home to their beautiful Khajiit wife

[@ricardoribeiroprudencio7871]

​​@@Geeler And having a argonian maid too

[@smivan.]

(she's khajiit)

[@mattseman5682]

I wonder why there's so many Dunmer in Windhelm...

[@mrsauceman5721]

@@Geeler after blockading the thalmor embassy

[@eyesack6845]

For Khajiit, I think it's totally accepted. There's one book (I forget the name) written by Khajiit, for Khajiit, and halfway through it tells you to stop reading and have sex with someone immediately. So they probably have a very casual culture around that sort of stuff.

[@just_addd_water_to_your_ramen]

Or maybe that one khajiit is essentially just saying stop reading a book and go get some

[@aardappelsalade5586]

Ahzirr Traajijazeri. "Life is short. If you have not made love recently, please, put down this book, and take care of that with all haste. Find a wanton lass or a frisky lad, or several, in whatever combination your wise loins direct, and do not under any circumstances play hard to get. Our struggle against the colossal forces of oppression can wait."

[@eyesack6845]

@@aardappelsalade5586 Thank you serjo. Swift hunting!

[@MoaRider]

I wonder how hard it is to get citizenship in Elysweyr.

[@eyesack6845]

@@MoaRider Depends on the era. Currently Anequina and Pelletine are client states of the Aldmeri Dominion, so probably extremely difficult unless you are an Altmer.

[@JGCO115]

In Skyrim the Word Walls where the Dragonborn gets his shouts are actually poems dedicated to fallen warriors or people written in the dragon language. One of the walls where you get the second part of the frost Breath shout "Krah" has this translation: "Here lies (the) beautiful Khajiit Anurassa whose warmth cannot be extinguished even by cold death." This shows Multiracial Relations have been a thing since way back when dragons were still around.

[@simbachvazo6530]

That's actually so sweet.

[@tomthestone1470]

@@simbachvazo6530Yeah, especially in those times.

[@spiritwildfiregaming1975]

It is quite *heartwarming* to read.

[@InitialPC]

wouldnt that also imply necrophilia?

[@JGCO115]

@@InitialPC What the fuck are you talking about my man ☠️

[@andrewsypniewski3403]

"That being said, now let's talk about the Argonians." *Lifts-Her-Tail* has entered the chat

[@MidnightDrake]

"Lifts-His-Cloth"

[@andrewsypniewski3403]

@@MidnightDrake Got-me-cracking up!

[@XSilver_WaterX]

Wait, who be in charge of the eggs because I have a small butt so I can't keep them warm?

[@andrewsypniewski3403]

@@XSilver_WaterX ...wat...

[@bluntlyhonest6803]

I like the idea that Orcs dont really care, as long as the partner in question is strong. Makes perfect sense from a cultural standpoint.

[@ShroudedEnigma]

Orcs: Can you take the 🍆 or naw

[@isaac_aren]

I'd imagine if an Argonian were to ask the Hist to be allowed to have offspring in the human/elf way, there is a decent change it will oblige. The Hist is known to change the biology of the Argonians for practical and personal purposes

[@excaliberdg1178]

It makes sense, Argonians were given their form because the Hist thought that the man/mer form was most useful.

[@Titanic_Tuna]

​@@excaliberdg1178 Opposable thumbs are just built different.

[@AnonymousAnonposter]

Is canon, Dunmer women love the human males. And Bosmer boys also love human males. Is so over, Merbros.

[@georgecostanza712]

Humans catching all the Ws

[@SpazzMaticu3]

True in oblivion a darkelf (dunmer) lusts after an imperial male.

[@jonathanwells223]

@@georgecostanza712 *imperial pelvic-thrusting intensifies*

[@One9999-rf6rq]

I just saw a cute Dunmer girl walk around with a filthy Imperial the other day… It’s over. Morrowind has fallen.

[@AthenisOculi]

not the Bosmussy

[@gobbo1917]

Also a side note I was under the impression, from the official canon, that any race can breed with any other race, they just have differing fertility rates, and usually the race is taken after the mother. But with some characteristics of the race the father was. So like if a breton woman beds a orcish man and has a kid, their kid will most likely be breton, but he also may have a fiery temper or be of particularly robust physical stock compared to the average Breton. 🤔

[@Recoil1808]

*So THAT'S why Bretons have the third highest upper limit on height in ESO...*

[@Umbra_Ursus]

There is a book in Skyrim that brings that up. If memory serves: It states that the mother births her race regardless of father, and they're unaware if crossbreeding with orcs or argonians is possible due to cultural issues. Likewise, it's unclear if daedra can successfully reproduce with other races. It's a bizarrely fuzzy subject in-universe.

[@Recoil1808]

@@Umbra_Ursus Well we know orcs can, firstly because of Oblivion having a major questline partially revolving around the bastard of an orc and a vampire. Argonians are the only instance where we're left genuinely thinking it's impossible, and with daedra it probably really, REALLY varies. Like I don't doubt for a second that a Daedric prince (either one of the 16 known ones, or one of the apparently countless minor princes who generally just mind their own business) could poof one into existence with a mortal, but I am skeptical of the logistics of a fire atronach and a nord... *Though in hindsight, that might explain why the Dragonknight class in ESO has an ability which explicitly states they have molten magma in their veins and that it can be hardened.*

[@Matryoshkandroid]

its a common misconception that the kid "takes the race of the mother," the book states that the kid will *usually* just look more like the mother than the father, though the author had a pretty small sample size to base his statistics off of, not to mention the biases shown in the book

[@giovannicervantes2053]

A bosmer that loves great swords and mead and is near 6ft from his nord father

[@dragonberrymead9525]

In the Elder Scrolls IV Oblivion, there is a interracial married couple living in Anvil. A Nord Heinrich Oaken-Hull and his Bosmer wife Hasathil. For some reason, the town is very disapproving of the couple, specifically with Hasathil being a Bosmer. They will say things like "Marrying a Bosmer is just wrong." "I would rather sleep with my horse.", and so on.

[@deadseven3474]

I remember that. My best guess is it's because Bosmer are commented on a lot in Oblivion as being weird short people with crazy cultural practices. It feels like some of the uppercrust view them as little more than zany tamed animals.

[@louissteyn6871]

Could also be due to that pact they are known for, or a misunderstanding of it, wouldn't be surprised if people assumed that all bosmer are weirdo cannibals

[@johnsmith361]

A lot of Bosmers are cannibals in the Elder Scrolls lore and are seen as savages, so it might not be because they are an interracial couple but more specifically because she is a Bosmer.

[@dirkbsilver9260]

They are across the border and there has been "dinner raids" from the Bosmers. Same for the Elswyr border with the Bosmers.

[@S3npeye]

In dawnstar there is a nord man married and has a child with a red gaurd woman

[@GT-legendary]

in ESO there is a female khajiit who is in love with a dunmer woman in coldhabour. and she leaves dead rats at her doorstep in the mornings trying to win her over. the Dunmer was weirded out at 1st and thought the khajjiti hated her, but when she realise she was being courted she warmed up to her seeing her like a big fluffy kitten.

[@robertliggett3870]

Where is this? I don’t remember

[@GT-legendary]

@@robertliggett3870 it's in coldharbour it's been a while i don't fully remember how it plays out. the dunmer's name was davila ralas or davilia ralas there was also a dunmer lady in the thieves guild that loved a khajiit who was now old her name was...velsa sorry if the names are wrong it's been literal years since i played

[@dannydacheedo1592]

I just saw an Imperial holding hands with a Bosmer The Empire has fallen Billions must redownload Skyrim

[@GrrumpyPants]

I am the DM for a DnD campaign set in tamriel at the end of the 3rd era and your channel has been invaluable to me, I've learned a tonne about the lore which I can bring into the game to make the world feel more fleshed out to my players, who are not as versed in elder scrolls lore.

[@ImperialKnowledge]

That's awesome! I wish I knew D&D well enough to play it with friends hah

[@Mastattak]

Daaaamn I was just thinking about starting one, maybe a very brief campaign to introduce my players to the world A question, how are you handling magic? Did you just keep it as it is in the dnd rules or did you try to adapt it to TES schools?

[@GrrumpyPants]

@Mastattak I just stuck with dnd spells and mechanics to keep it simple. My players are already familiar with 5e so i didn't want to shake things up too much.

[@SergioRCambra]

I would recommend changing the system from D&d 5e to the Unnoficial Elder Scrolls RPG. It's a fan project that created a tabletop game specifically for Elder Scrolls. While learning a new system can be daunting, it is ultimately a lot easier than most people believe, and it can be very rewarding. UESRPG is built to support the Elder Scrolls lore. Also, from a purely mechanical view, it is superior to 5e. It is also completely free. You can simply Google it and find links to the Discord and the Drive page containing all of the books. It is currently in it's 3rd edition, with the 4th in production.

[@ava4689]

@@ImperialKnowledgemy problem is I know how to play, but dont have enough friends lol. Plus DnD is a game that requires a lot of time and “homework” to put it simply. Even if I got all my friends together its hard to explain it and get them to have the interest and put in the work for character sheets and stat creations etc etc.

[@RNS_Aurelius]

In Morrowind the dark elves say they respect high elves mastery of magic and they are civilised but are arrogant and uncultured presumably because they don't worship the tribunal or the "good" daedra. I would assume high elves feel similarly towards dark elves because let's be real both of them are arrogant

[@huaiguzhu]

In ESO there's this letter written by some Altmer scholar which claims the Dunmer are double apostates(betrayed both Aedra&Daedra) and have been duely punished(azura's curse) but they still are cousins and their toughness is a commendable trait.

[@chdh6556]

to be fair, dark elves did use to have a whole gang of neloths lmaoo

[@DrEgonCholakian]

Typical N'wah take

[@Daniel-nf1gq]

Altmers and Kimers were basically a sibling races before the curse. Kinda like Bosmers were similar to Ayleids apparently... and now that I think about it, weren't Dwemers kinda similar to Falmers as well? Huh, that's a pattern I've never noticed before.

[@Titanic_Tuna]

​@@DrEgonCholakian🤣

[@st.anselmsfire3547]

Oblivion seemed to be experimenting with mixed-race people with a few of the NPCs. There were Bosmer with blue undertones to their skin in the Shivering Isles and Imperials with really clear Redguard features in Anvil. With other games, it's not as clear. And then you have the lore, where the Septim Dynasty is all Imperials by the present but Tiber Septim was apparently a Nord.

[@CommanderM117]

some redguards are in fact just intergrading way to much that they no longer count as Redguard, Baurus being one and Neville completly following Imperial culture.

[@blueberryslushee2277]

The Grey Prince from the Arena questline in Oblivion is also only half orc! I can't remember what human race he's mixed with, but if you do his quest for him you find this out and (spoiler alert) that he's also technically half vampire. Bc his mom is an orc, who fell in love with a man who she finds out is a vampire. The quest is all very sad tbh.

[@beverlykikinom156]

@@blueberryslushee2277 his father (Lord Lovidicus) is an imperial :)

[@johnprager662]

Some of the residents in Anvil would make fun of the Nord sailor Heinrich Oaken-Hull for having a Bosmer wife

[@crowverra5343]

As a Breton I would love the risk of death by snu snu with Orsimer waifu

[@Recoil1808]

Well, that's probably why despite the average Breton being notably short in the mainline series, they are in the third highest height bracket in ESO (the only three races that are physically capable of being taller than them are Orcs, Nords, and High Elves) along with Redguards and Imperials.

[@ellie-za-bif]

go outside and touch grass

[@crowverra5343]

@@ellie-za-bif only if I can get pounded into it by an orc waifu grinding on top of me.

[@88cryingwolf]

My main character in Skyrim is a black haired high elf, in my own head cannon his dad was a Breton.

[@preyasmanthedemopan2854]

My main character is a bosmer who ended up marrying Gorbash the Iron Hand, the Orc veteran you find in one of the strongholds. They fell in love after doing the imperial Civil War together c:

[@SkywarpG1X]

One of my chars she was a very tall wood elf. In my roleplay lore her father was a Nord with giant ancestry. Her mother was a Bosmer that was half imperial.

[@just_addd_water_to_your_ramen]

​@SkywarpG1X female woodelves are normally pretty tall. It's only the males that are shorter, so they can hunt more effectively by running along tree branches

[@SkywarpG1X]

@@just_addd_water_to_your_ramen True but my Bosmer was slightly taller than some Nords. Soo, she was a giant. XD

[@just_addd_water_to_your_ramen]

@@SkywarpG1X female wood elves are similar in height to altmer so not really giant

[@noahtylerpritchett2682]

Adrianne from warmaidens is implied to be mix race of Redguard and imperial parentage as her mother is a redguard because she is but her father is obviously a Imperial. Even her hair color is outside her racial traits of red guard purity.

[@Tururu669]

Argonian cloaca got me disowning my ancestors

[@gobbo1917]

And yet you won't submit to an orc chieftain war Mommy, pathetic 😂

[@just_addd_water_to_your_ramen]

Ok what the actual fuck

[@Paiitt]

💀

[@boopuchannel]

My brother in Talos you are infertile

[@mnk9073]

Oh hi there Uncle Crassius. Looking forward to the sequel. xoxo your dumpling

[@mnk9073]

If the Bretons can marry their sisters than you, CHAD Imperial that you are can marry that grey Azura-look alike.

[@Titanic_Tuna]

Why stop there? Just go straight for Azura.

[@CreatorofSecks]

I’m guessing a certain Crassius Curio was the one who suggested this video

[@Kazillion-Jillionaire]

Lol

[@bellagothz]

My dovahkiin is a dunmer with a nord father and I always loved that little mix for the game! Only trait she got from her dad is that she’s quite tall for a dunmer. It makes sense that she’s got nord roots, being the dragonborn and all.

[@KrasseOdaVonBayern]

There is a Dragonwall in Skyrim from an ancient Nord in dedication to his beloved Khajiit wife. It’s the second wall for Frost Breath, “Here lies (the) beautiful Khajiit Anurassa whose warmth cannot be extinguished even by cold death.” Seeing as how Wulfharth rode the Khajiit Senche battlecat Dro’Zira in the battle of Red Mountain, and Topal met Khajiit along lake Rumare, I like to think the Khajiit used to stretch across Tamriel and were allies of the ancient Nords.

[@WooShell]

Wasn't there even a book in Skyrim written by a human woman speculating on the specific features of the Khajiiti.. melee interaction equipment.. ?

[@wild180]

Yeah like You don't wanna simswoohoo.mp4 with a male khajiit if you're not one yourself, because they're like cats... barbed... It lives in my mind yo...

[@louissteyn6871]

There are prostitutes in morrowind who will effectively tell a male khajit they will have to wait because she is still hurting from the last khajit she was with

[@mjtechnoviking44]

This is referenced directly in the real barenziah volume 3 in the redacted portion as it exists uncensored in tes daggerfall iirc

[@TheBayzent]

Queen Barenziah didn't speculate, but outright stated it has barbs.

[@wild180]

@@TheBayzent I remember the first time I read that book, without prior knowledge on barenziah at the time, like "dang girl okay go there I guess" Of course, I am not surprised in the least nowadays. What a classic move of hers

[@heavykyio]

Me an imperial player: "Fucking high elves" Also me whenever I'm alone with my high elf Thalmor Justicar: "It's ok pooky boo don't listen to the mean nrods your ears are cute"

[@adamsosna7263]

TrueSTL will have a field day with this one

[@anderporascu5026]

By the divines, who is that?

[@Matryoshkandroid]

trueSTL can have field days with anything tbf

[@deltahunter4810]

@@anderporascu5026an incredible community of Elder Scrolls fans

[@debbiegilmour6171]

Tbh, I'd suspect that no union between any of the beast races and any other race would work. Unless either of the parties had achieved CHIM and could do whatever.

[@TheBayzent]

I can see Khajiit working since they are weird type of Bosmer (like the Orcs), Argonians on the other hand...but I still don't understand how Argonians are able to reproduce sexually since I thought their sexual characteristics were more in imitation of the other races in the continent but non functional (being bred exclusively through Hisst saplings)

[@debbiegilmour6171]

@@TheBayzent In that sense, argonians remind me of WH40k orcs. But it's like, how does a mammal even breed with that??? I don't think they can. That said, the Hist works in mysterious ways and if the Hist wills it, it probably could turn a human into an argonian.

[@michaelcampbell1170]

There are two types of Orcs. City orcs and Stronghold Orcs. Mixed race couples with orcs will always be city orcs. Stronghold female Orcs are not allowed to be romantic or have kids with anyone outside of the stronghold chief as Female Orcs are used as bargaining chips to form alliances with other strongholds and only the Chief of a stronghold is allowed to marry and have kids. If any stronghold Orc wants to marry, have children, etc, they must either kill their father and take their place as chief (male only) or be banished/abandon the stronghold (male&female).

[@Deatheater4444]

I'm aware of at least one Argonian-Dremora couple. Apparently love transcends species, cultures, and liminal barriers.

[@preyasmanthedemopan2854]

Given the rules on how mix children work on tamriel and half-races generally dont happen, it'd be a good followup to do the origins and ancestors of the Bretons

[@ImperialKnowledge]

Yeah, Ill prob do that at some point tbh because its pretty interesting. Tbh. ly should have mentioned this, but the Bretons as a race are a bit weird. So their explanation in lore is that "centuries of intense interbreeding between Direnni elves and human Nedes" led to a human race which has some elvish racial traits. While I was talking purely about 1:1 relationships (so just two persons) I kinda assumed long term genetic effects should not be mentioned here. Buuutttt.... it confused some people in the comments. So I probably should have. So just to clarify, over centuries of intense intermingling there will be some racial stuff that slowly merges leading to a new race of sorts. So hypothetically perhaps if we did the same thing with nords and dark elves, we would end up with red eyed humans, or grey skinned humans. But that would require multiple generations going at it continually. Not something that results out of one relationship. Sorry, should have clarified it in the video!

[@preyasmanthedemopan2854]

@@ImperialKnowledge weird, I remember it being between Aylieds who migrated north with the Nede population, I could be wrong about that. I knew the general layout but not the details, either way, it's a fascinating topic for sure! especially the reactions of the Nords who first found early Bretons, mistook them for Mer, went on a killing spree, only to stop when they begged in the Nord's own language.

[@GrrumpyPants]

@@ImperialKnowledge Personally I'm thinking of it like a race of humans who bread with so many elves that the entire race now has pointy ears, but instead of pointy ears it's magical blood. I look forward to a video on the topic so that I can finally have the answers.

[@just_addd_water_to_your_ramen]

Breton comes from a mixing of Direnni elves (dirreni is just the name of a clan they are high elves) with bretons. Bretons were commonly taken as concubines and such

[@virvewirllos]

​@@preyasmanthedemopan2854It's confusing because the ayleids did settle High Rock, but by most accounts they didn't really contribute to the intermixing that led to the bretons, probably because they were far too brutal to the nedes enslaved under for any mixed population of a significant size to appear and survive past a footnote. The Direnni on the other hand are aldmer who migrated from Summerset to High Rock independently of the ayleids, and while their treatment of the nedes was still one of subjugation, they didn't technically enslave them and they were far less prone to the same atrocities as the ayleids were, so it would be easier to for a significant amount of mixed people to appear, and more importantly to stay alive, allowing it to go on for enough generations for them to form a shared cultural identity. The ayleids might have been there for longer, but the Direnni's attitude towards the nedes and their unconsolidated power despite their low numbers also made them uniquely prone to take human lovers amongst the mer.

[@neasper]

Do we have any information about how Nords view a relationship with giants as you can meet a couple people who have giant ancestry?

[@vanarloc2632]

I think there is a half sea giant in ESO? Didn't play that.

[@just_addd_water_to_your_ramen]

It's been a long time since giants were considered a more intelligent species

[@neasper]

@@vanarloc2632 Yes there where half sea giants in ESO.

[@dominuslogik484]

only works if a male nord boinks a female giant, the way its viewed is explored a bit in ESO. Basically its never a long standing relationship just a bit of a toss about in the hay probably done on a dare. as for the offspring it can result in negative consequences, one of the primary companions of the vestige in ESO killed her mother during childbirth because she was a quarter giant and the strain of an abnormally large child needing to be born. this female character was much taller than even the tallest nords and was considered a freak as a child but later respected as a warrior. it seems her father on the otherhand was considered a bit of a town strongman and well respected because it makes sense that a 7'4" man in a society like the nords would be considered a strong and thus respectable man.

[@MoaRider]

Considering you can become the "special friend" of a Khajiit woman in Morrowind, Im surprised this sort of thing hasn't shown up more often.

[@sw33g3r3]

So, my character is almost always an Argonian that is a werewolf, like everyone I used mods to marry Serana, a Nordic vampire…what on earth would their kid be like if she got pregnant? Argonian, Nord, Vampire, Werewolf, AND Dragon blood? That sounds like a Mary Sue waiting to happen “hi, my name is Ebony Darkness Dementia Raven Way, I’m perfect at using weapons and magic, also my father is the dragon born and my mother is one of the most powerful vampires of her day, I’m also a werewolf and a vampire lord…and I can breathe under water”

[@NovoCognition]

Such relationships are indeed full of interesting dynamics. Aside from noble politics, it is generally laissez faire.

[@ErilTheBarrel]

You mentioned that offspring are the race of their mother, but can inherit their father's traits. I wonder if that extends to more race specific features. Can a Nord offspring inherit their Dark Elf father's greyish skin? Can an Elf offspring get fur from their Khajiit father? 🤔

[@ImperialKnowledge]

Very interesting question. If I had to guess, no. Because if I had to guess (and I am guessing here) then I think traits can be put into two baskets "race" and "looks" (for lack of better biology knowledge on my part). So grey skin is definitely in the "cant inherit race" basket, just like red eyes and innate racial traits such as resistance to fire. While I think hair color for example can be passed on. Although that explanation is not without its flaws, as why else would high elves with human genes have more rounded ears..... so honestly I have no clue. So maybe the answer is yes, I just dont think they thought that far ahead.

[@dominuslogik484]

Imagine if someone was born from a nord/dark elf relation that resulted in a kid resistant to the frost and fire, sounds kind OP.

[@sebastianlucas704]

​@@dominuslogik484Don't forget Morrowind, Nord resist shock too.

[@dominuslogik484]

@@sebastianlucas704 oh yeah I nearly forgot that they had that effect in morrowind

[@chrismills2439]

so if a female nord gets on with a breton male do we get Tiber Septim? anyway cannon said child took after the mother with traits from the father

[@steakinbacon8593]

Only if one of them has dragon blood

[@TheBayzent]

Ghost of Hroldan made Breton Tiber Septim canon, so the other way around (Breton mother, Nord father)

[@CxnstantineII]

Fake news, heresy, Tiber Septim was born in Skyrim

[@germanasem2426]

Hey, man. I have an interesting topic for you, if you want to investigate and do a video, of course: playable races living outside of tamriel. Not only living on daedric realms, but pocket dimensions too, like the many isles that are isolated from reality that appear in ESO lore (examples like clockwork city, eyevea, the psijiq order island or the island created by the wilder queen of valenwood). How different are those cultures compared to Tamrielic cultures

[@just_addd_water_to_your_ramen]

He could also do a video on the Quey. Both the man and mer quey people

[@gobbo1917]

Dude, if the humans of tamriel are anything like the humans of our earth, they love blue chicks 😅

[@skytheprimaldragon7689]

Asari and Turians aren't apart of the Elder Scrolls universe sadly

[@giannihenk]

Twi’leks oh yeah

[@berilsevvalbekret772]

​@@skytheprimaldragon7689dumner has bluish gray skin or straight up blue. Argonians can have blue scales. Just sayinh 😏

[@tzinchdisciple]

Don't count out cat waifus too, speaking of that.

[@CommanderM117]

@@skytheprimaldragon7689 Dunmer are blue is gray when their younger teenage 20 30s so their that.

[@rileywilliams9799]

I spent some time scribbling notes for a fanfiction idea surrounding my Oblivion character. He's a Khajiit who in the story married an Imperial woman with the story revolving around their life as Lord and Lady of Battlehorn Castle. They had three children who were Imperial like their mother but they had blondish hair and were sometimes said to be rather nimble in their movements.

[@arthurmorgan9224]

This is a great vid man, it helped me refine a bit of my Altmer's backstory as he canonically married a Khajiit. Kinda helped me realize that he is actually a bit of a political pariah because of his matrimony.

[@Stejers]

Speaking of procreation marriage etc i have some questions 1- are there different visions if you have a relationship with different kind of kahjiit? (Exemple being the quadrupeds types having a relationship with a human would it be seen as bestiality or something?) Note im not talking about reproduction only of how the relationship is seen 2- if a line of female nords have a lot of mixed blood with redguards to the point that they look exactly like a redguard but because of their mother side of the lineage they are nords how is it seen? (For exemple if a nord has so much more redguard ancestry than nord maybe they just start becoming redguards? As some type of assimilation or those rare cases of children being born as the fathers race become much higher?) 3- are deseases like lycanthropy and vampirism genetical? If one or both of the parents are werewolves will the child be a werewolf or would they need to pass through the ritual? (I imagine that vampirism is not genetical since serana was born of vampire parents but still had to pass through the ritual of becoming a daughter of cold harbor) (also there is the case of the grey prince in oblivion) 4- does religion/pantheons play a role in how relationships are seen? For exemple dunmers that worship the daedric princes are seen bad in human eyes or those who worship/ed the tribunal are seen as stupid? Since most of the pantheons of the races are the same gods with diferent names, roles and/or relevance and most races recognise everybodys gods are real (except the thalmor) are there problems? 5- are there preferences between the types of kahjiit? (For exemple will couples try to time when they have sex so their child will be born as a certain type of kahjiit?) Also for the quadruped kahjiit, is it seen as acceptable for them to use little to no clothing since they cant really put clothes on their own? Because tecnically they would be with their privates showing around all the time and i imagine that such a thing wouldnt be seen as apropriate to a bipedal kahjiit to walk around pretty much naked. How do the small kahjiit mothers give birth to the bigger types? Are they born smaller than if a larger were to have given birth? How do kahjiit see actual felines? Do they have some cultural/simbolic meaning? Do kahjiit keep cats as pets? Do kahjiit sometimes mistake a normal cat for one of their own? Do kahjiit give birth to litters like most felines or do they give birth to only one child (sometimes twins etc) like humans? 6- how is adoption of a completely unrelated race seen (and elf and human couple adopting an argonian child for exemple? Is it seen as being eccentric or the like?) 7- how are the different marital practices of certain cultures seen by each other, like polygamy or closely related/incestuous relations 8- how common is for someone to remarry or get divorced? (An elf that lost their partner from old age after 50 years finds a new partner for exemple) (is there any religious problems with divorce? Since in the ceremony we see them promisse in maras name) 9- how is age gap seen in relationships? Of course i imagine for humans to be similar to our standards but for exemple and elf can have over 70 years but still look in their 20s, so is it based on appearence, actual age, simply personality/compatiability or what? 10- ignoring any type of problem related to fertility, live span, religion and prejudices. Do different races prefer similar looking races in terms of appearence and/or atteactiveness? (For exemple do they find their own races more attractive in general, do races like high elves think bosmer more attractive than dunmer since they look way more alike? Do nords prefer bretons instead of redguards due to their lighter skin? Do kahjiit have preferences of the types in their own species? Etc) in this case im only talking on how they see each other based on being able to have sexual relations/attraction not specificaly romantic relations nor possibility of off spring Hope you read this and try to answer this comment love your videos

[@AdonanS]

As I understand it, the Hist can change the biological and anatomical traits of the Argonians. Wouldn't that mean, if the Hist wants to, it could make an Argonian more compatible with the other races?

[@excaliberdg1178]

Yes, theoretically speaking. The hist gave proto-argonians a man/mer like form cause it thought that form would be the most practical.

[@therethan-family1234]

At least about Altmer-Dunmer relationships, Barenziah's daugher (a Dunmer-Breton mix) married the King of Firsthold, so at least during the third Era, Dunmer weren't unattractive enough to stop a political marriage with a princess from a minor provincei in Highrock.

[@bootyspoon4675]

Morgiah is not half breton. Barenziah had her with Symmachus long before she joined the court of Wayrest and married Eadwyre. Actually it's speculated Symmachus was partially nordic, so potentially Morgiah would be 3/4 Dunmer and 1/4 Nord.

[@TheBayzent]

It provoked the Firsthold revolt which had to be put down with a ton of bloodshed...also that particular political marriage had some extra caveats thanks to Mannimarco.

[@aceclover758]

In elder scrolls online, there is a Nord male with a dunmer woman living on a farm to the northwest of Stonefalls

[@huaiguzhu]

Dunmeri women (with the exception of House nobles)have a tendency to hook up with males of other races.

[@SkywarpG1X]

Never ask a Direnni elf the race of his wife.

[@enderman_666]

you think they married the Nedes?

[@kylewilliams3031]

Well….Elves. Never ask what race his consort is.

[@pacosalvs13]

The race of his girlfriends

[@Deatheater4444]

Most assuredly Altmer, and likely his cousin. Now, his *concubine*, on the other hand.

[@SkywarpG1X]

@@enderman_666 They did marry nedic humans. How do you think the bretons came to be? Bretons are called Menmery for a reason.

[@Dumb_Gaming05]

"Hello fellow Nord.: "Hey." "Who's the High Elf?: "My wife." "My man."

[@avathememelegends1293]

I wonder if Imperial Knowledge would ever do a video on race mods (like mods that allows you to be a snow elf, dwarf, etc.) this is a thought that I had for awhile now.

[@noahtylerpritchett2682]

I often like to role-play my character as paternally Nordic with more Nordic inherited traits (so I select Nord in my race) but with darker hair, eyes, and skin and shorter stature to have imperial racial traits Indisputably Nordic to the common racial eye but scratch at a closer look up close and I often make my character have Imperial characteristics mixed in with my character's Nordic features.

[@Larzang]

"An Orc that falls in love with a Khajiit"... Damn. Not even a full minute into the video, and I already feel called out. 😂

[@BarbieGaming-g4d]

My character is a redguard with Redguard, Breton {with heavy eleven add mixture} and Reachmen descent on her mother's side.

[@dannydacheedo1592]

12:15 is that Dunmer Lenin?

[@noahtylerpritchett2682]

With the existence of Colovians and Reachmen I don't believe inheritance isn't a matrilineal factor. Human biological features inherit like the real world. Colovians are Nedes mixed with Nords. Nords are Nedes mixed with Atmorans, Reachmen are descendants of Proto Nedes, Proto Atmorans, Later evolved Nibenese, later evolved Nords, later evolved Colovians, and various human classifications seperate from Nede like Keptu. And of course Bretons. Who Bretons are varying percentage combination of Nord, Nede, Atmoran and what have you stages. And Bretons were are generally maternally human it seems with patrilineal elven features so are Humans but with elven features albeit from a multigenerational practice so the elven features more prominent. A first generation half elf half human probably isn't a Breton. A Breton is likely multigenerational procreation. Maybe 8 generations.

[@smuggrog9821]

Yeah, at least when it comes to the races of man procreating with each other it seems that their is more of an equal split of the mothers and the fathers genetics that are inherited by thier children. For example we got Aeliah in ESO who had a Redguard mother and a Imperial father but looks like a irl person of European and African ancestry and then you have Tobias in Redguard who had a Nord father and a Imperial mother but straight up just looked like a Nord. Which makes sense due to the fact that Tobias mother was a Colovian Imperial who have a lot of nordic ancestry already, so it makes sense that he would look more nordic in appearance.

[@goodenoughright5433]

I've always been curious about high elf, dark elf relations. Like like what opinions do they have of each other

[@huaiguzhu]

From the ingame sources (morrowind+eso) they consider each other cousins, the Altmer think the Dunmer heretical but appreciate their toughness and strong will. The Dunmer think the Altmeri culture out-dated and stagnant but acknowledge their achievements in magic and arts.

[@blakebailey22]

Deeja and Ocheeva got me actin' up

[@artemisarrow179]

I really hope marriage and romance is expanded on in Elder Scrolls VI because I think it’s a lot of fun

[@multipurposepaperbox]

best part of the thumbnail is that the imperial should probably worry more than the dunmer. Because of cultural differences

[@nozuchan]

also if i'm not mistaken, bretons are result of atmoran and mer when atmoran first travel west and settle there along with elves, they eventually interbred and resulting in bretons. men with elves qualities, that's why breton makes really good mages

[@andyvaldivia6110]

The Bretons are descendants of Biracial couplings. They get their Magicka affinity form their Direnni Elf ancestry, and you can sharpen their ears in character creation to reflect that ancestry.

[@patricialavery8270]

Books I have read seem to suggest Khajiit see Mer as relatives,cats who came out of the chaos and settled in that form rather than actual Khajiit.

[@greed0599]

There's a book in, I think skyrim, that implies any race can interbreed but fertility rates are lowered. They specifically mention hearing of cases of khajit and argonians having children with races of men, but the stories are far and few between. I believe the book is something like "Phenology of Races". I vaguely even remember it covering that argonians may give live birth in colder climates instead of laying an egg

[@Dieu_Moqueur]

I remember that Breton was Metis between Human and ancestor of hight Elf thats why they are powerful mage.

[@velzanna2281]

Bretons are the example of long-time man-mer hybridisation. They are not quite men, not quite mer, having traits and culture of both. Even the gods they worship and their outlook on life falls somewhere in the middle. Wouldn’t surprise me if they have a decent fertility with either side.

[@just_addd_water_to_your_ramen]

Like any true Nord, i search out my lovers by battle or hostage taking

[@CommanderM117]

that pretty much how reachmen got made raids on Highrocks Reach region.

[@SkywarpG1X]

Correct me if I'm wrong but is Jargar Tharn half Altmer-Dunmer?

[@just_addd_water_to_your_ramen]

No I'm pretty sure he's bosmer

[@SkywarpG1X]

@@just_addd_water_to_your_ramen I checked and Jagar Tharn is half imperial. And half Altmer,Dunmer and Bosmer. So he has the blood of every playable elven race plus imperials in he's vines.

[@just_addd_water_to_your_ramen]

@@SkywarpG1X that is 3 of 4 of all playable elven races. But also I think in eso lore the tharn family initially hails from valenwood but I might be thinking of the camorans in which case the tharn family is initially nibenese.

[@just_addd_water_to_your_ramen]

@SkywarpG1X but there really isn't "half" races. it's only through continuous intermarriage that something like bretons or reachman happens.

[@SkywarpG1X]

@@just_addd_water_to_your_ramen You mean there are half races? But only though multiple generations of breeding. Like the Bretons.

[@sebastianprimomija8375]

High Elf: Mixed-race couple? Cringe!

[@vanarloc2632]

Mixed-Family couple? Cringe!

[@viciousyeen6644]

So you’re telling me the Argonian Maid never needed to protect her jewelry box? 👀

[@OpenFireBug]

"The race of the child is determined by the mother, but has a chance to inherit traits from the father" So Pokemon breeding rules. Got it.

[@giannihenk]

Me a roleplayer, clicked as fast as I could

[@t2av159]

I was just asking my wife about this the other day

[@senatuspopulusqueromanus2082]

What about nord/giant hybrid? There's an instance of that in lore. Damn, her mom was quite stretchy it seems...

[@sebastianrosenheim6196]

Demora gf when?

[@preyasmanthedemopan2854]

As funny as that'd be, given the nature of their existence (and especially the prince they serve in this instance) I don't think the Daedra are capable of love in that way

[@SkywarpG1X]

And even if they are they would rather die. Than mate with a mortal.

[@sebastianrosenheim6196]

@@SkywarpG1X thats No Problem i have a soulstone and very much time at Hand 😐

[@ImperialKnowledge]

F*****************************ck. I just realized, there IS a dremora/mortal couple *SOMEWHERE* in eso. I dont remember the exact nature of it (I believe it was more the mortal being attached to the daedra and daedra not understanding it fully or smtn like that. Memory bad). I should have included that, my bad!

[@sebastianrosenheim6196]

@@ImperialKnowledgealso isn't umaril some wierd half elf half dremora ? I know that the gods even the daedra can have children with mortals but dremora ?

[@johnprager662]

There are two Nord blacksmiths in Skyrim with Redguard wives. One would be unusual enough considering how rare Redguards are, two suggests a pattern.

[@bodybrest2644]

Have you found one precedent or example of a Khajiit having had an offspring with another race? Can you point to it? A reference in a dialogue or a book?

[@burrito8443]

I’m not too sure about this but if a orc man in a stronghold is not permitted to marry unless he’s a chief, that’s why the player only sees a few sons of a chief or a couple middle aged orc men in the strongholds in Skyrim. Most orc men go off alone to seek love through joining the legion as warriors or blacksmiths or moving into a city to become smithies or merchants. Khajiit have many different forms and the moons cycle at birth determine the physical and magical attributes they posses. Some look like house cats, some are massive, some have itty-bitty cat features and mostly humanoid looking. The speculations of that race is that there are very big restrictions for them to properly create life with other races and may not have any chances of having children with elves or humans. Though they might have been descended by the ehlnofey (the ascendants of the elven races). I really liked your commentary on some ESO dialogue and characters. I usually don’t pay enough mind for that stuff.

[@colemclean1676]

Ware is my khajiit wifu? Pspspsps

[@88cryingwolf]

You're racist Parents try to lure her away with some skooma, she's busy cussing them out right now.

[@thebanished87]

Stardenburdenhardenbart

[@Ironmaidenportugal]

The grey prince, son of a vampire

[@hunterngames6643]

I thought i read somewhere that Argonians can be impregnated by other races but by the Hist decree its always coming out as an Argonian instead a halfbreed or elf/human.

[@FlintSparkedStudios]

I legit thought the thumbnail was a mobile game ad at first glance.

[@zionkaauwai8904]

“Here lies (the) beautiful Khajiit Anurassa whose warmth cannot be extinguished even by cold death.”

[@mcbeaty3971]

It was in reference to an Alfiq

[@PowerfulRift]

So what happens when the lizard and the cat gets together?

[@Titanic_Tuna]

When it comes to doing the deed, the Bosmer are *wild*

[@noahtylerpritchett2682]

The Bretons cause a dilemma but not really. They're like 8 generations Nede with altmer paternal parentage Hell with longevity who's to say the Altmer doesn't breed with Bretons as well not just the Nedes. Or even breed with his great great granddaughter.

[@turtleofpride4572]

~Elf Odopius screams in reflection ~

[@TheBayzent]

I mean, we know incest is not exactly a taboo in their society.

[@samflood5631]

In Skyrim, My Wood Elven thief married Ysolda, a Nord Merchant. And my Orcish Fighter married Aela, a Nord Companion/Werewolf. And yet this game doesn’t let me have Half Elf or Half Orc children with either Ysolda or Aela.

[@thundergaming3657]

For 11:38 I may be wrong but I thought slavery was banned in Morrowind after an agreement made by the Imperial Legion. At least thats what I learned from Beyond Skyrim

[@Jonsnowismypookie]

Hlaalu Helseth outlawed it in 3E 432 a few years after the events of Morrowind

[@gwendolynsnyder463]

I always thought that if an elf and a human procreate, elves even counting Orks and Ohmes Raht, that a Breton would be born.

[@bluedragonstudios9004]

Imagine having a wife who looks like a house cat 😂

[@ultraviolet540]

Some Khajiit actually look like house cats. I think all cats are Khajiit, not sure.

[@Deidara81586]

Time to marry a Dunmer!

[@zazikikomo7796]

With interracial pairings, the offspring take on more of the mother's racial features, which is why the Breton ultimately overtook Clan Direnni. The elves would often take Nedic (human) concubines and interbreed with them, and as you might imagine a lot of these pairings were elf male, human female, so the resulting half-elven offspring were more human-like in nature. Though not afforded the same station as pure-blooded Direnni, these manmer were privileged with positions of power over the rest of the Nedes and ultimately sympathized with them rather than the Direnni noble caste. I don't remember the exact reasoning behind why offspring take on the mother more, but it has something to do with how an animus, aka a soul, works. A soul has a sort of "connection" to the body it inhabits, and has a degree of control over the shape of that body. This is why the Hircine-worshiping Companions, whose souls are depicted as wolves, have werewolf forms--it is their human form transforming to align with their animus, their soul. So the rationale for why offspring take on the mother is related to this somehow, the dominion of the soul over the form the body takes.

[@steventalvinzvestal420]

I want all Khajiits to breathe underwater like Argonians do.

[@Omicron9999]

Oh, people in Tamriel would definitely care about inter-race relationships. You only listed generally political reasons why people might object, but there would most certainly be racial prejudices as well. This is medieval fantasy we're talking here. People aren't usually nice about that kind of thing. The thing is though, The Elder Scrolls series is a LOT more mainstream nowadays, and if Bethesda realistically depicted people's reactions to inter-race relationships on a wider scale than one or two prejudiced individuals then the studio would be deluged with accusations of promoting racist ideology even though that is would realistically happen. Those various different races across Tamriel have been kicking the shit out of each other at various different points throughout history. Just as people in Skyrim are openly prejudiced against the Khajit, people in Windhelm openly hate dark elves, and the high elves hate basically everybody who isn't a high elf themselves, there would be many, *many* widespread racial prejudices all over without any form of media control to enforce a consensus ideology on the masses like we have today. That's the thing with different cultures and civilisations - at some point, everybody has fought everybody else, a lot of blood has been spilled, territory has been stolen, and people tend to remember all that. So no, the recent games don't depict people's reactions to inter-race relations all that realistically, given that the setting is medieval fantasy and there HAVE been numerous bloody wars between the various races, but seeing as how mainstream the series has become these days, it's probably understandable why they'd prefer to sweep that kind of thing under the rug and pretend it doesn't exist. It totally WOULD exist, but people would complain if they showed it.

[@korbensemaganis]

😶‍🌫️ Thick bodied female Altmer.

[@projectboy5409]

On thing im curious about is. How do half giants work do they come from human or elf women on only inherited ther fathers size?

[@neroseether838]

Correct me if I'm misremembering or if this was answered already cause I'm typing this halfway through the video, but aren't Bretons a hybrid race of human and elf? So wouldn't mix races between elves and humans be a thing? Just asking cause there was a part saying mixed races aren't really a thing in the elder scrolls

[@CrimpyCracker]

Not a thing in that there's not a 50/50 genetic split. More of a 90/10 or 80/20. Bretons are distinctly human, but they have a greater proportion of elven ancestry then other humans due to the ruling Direnni elves of High Rock taking human brides for generations long ago. That ancestry can be seen in their inherited bonuses to magicka, or occasionally pointy ears. Elves just have a different biology i believe, with the child inheriting a majority of their mother's traits, including race if it should come into play. So if a nord dude and a dunmer lady have a kid, the kid is mostly dunmer, but maybe they can grow a mean beard and survive better in the cold. But if a dunmer dude and a nord lady have a child, the child is mostly nord, but perhaps a bit of red in their eyes and a more lithe, slender build than the typical nord. I think it works the same with inter-elf children? I only know dunmer Queen Morgiah of Firsthold and her altmer husband, and I believe their children were distinctly dunmer. Mixed humans (say, the child of a redguard and an imperial) stays 50/50 split like irl. Beast races are the only ones that don't seem to have mixed children, but both races might also be capable of changing that with the weirdness of the moon phases or the hist trees or whatever.

[@neroseether838]

@@CrimpyCracker thank you for letting me know, appreciate it

[@randomasgray]

For khajiit it depends on the lunar phases on what they are born as and it is NOT confirmed that khahiit are related to elves at all. That is more elven propoganda often to sway them to side with the elven races over human ones. Evidence points more towards khajiit being natives of Tamriel as a beast race like minotaurs. Minotaurs are capable of crossbreeding with humans and likely elves too.

[@OmarQeZ]

Is there any lore about procreating with daedra or daedric princes?

[@qliphalpuzzle5453]

Man I was waiting for the Sload or the Giants relationships; 5/10

[@ShadowElectricity]

Videos like these are the reason youre the best Elder Scrolls lore channel out there!

[@noahtylerpritchett2682]

I don't think Nords could give one shit if you married Colovians. Nibenese? Maybe I dunno they're the one's politically associated with Cyrodiil. But Nords are half Nede half proto-Atmoran while Colovians are half Nede half Nord. Nibenese are "pure" Nede. Maybe 5-10% overtime dissemination of Nord ancestry through gradual internal immigration. While Colovians and I theorize Falkreath Nords and Rift Nords spectrum 25-75% and 25-75% for both races a wild spectrum of Nede anf Atmoran ancestry. With southern Skyrim more Nordic And northern Cyrodiil more Nedic. But both biologically the same and borderlanders might have more cultural affinities. Example a "Germanic" Austro-Swiss person likely has more local Celtic relations similar to a north Italian or east frenchmen than "Germanic" proto ancestry from Denmark. Population ancestry ratios aren't border to purity but culture overlapping spectrums of conflicting amounts. I study real world geographic and proximity cultures and genetics and i assume distribution discriminations follow ratio patterns in similar yet contradictory degrees in elder scrolls. A Welshmen and Norwegian is closer related to mix tribes of mix tribes than either are to say a Welshman and Galatian Celt or a Norwegian to a Vandal Germanic because subsequent mix migrations of in between people's who were neither Celtic or Germanic but got mix independent categories. If that makes sense. Studying elder scrolls geographic cultures is a interest of mine as is real world. In analogy terms, english people used to think oh racially pure germanic but nope turns out part celt the Anglo Saxon genocide is a myth. Likewise i believe the Yakudans didn't kill all the Nedes of high rock but mixed with them and hyperbolic legends portray a non existent genocide. I theorize the Crowns are pure while the forbears being friendly and imperialized by cyrodiil have Nedic ancestry grafting them towards Cyrodiil politics. I deny the genocide of all high rock Nedes. I think Forebears mixed with Nedes in their territories. While the crowns committed and write of genocide. Humans in the real world and assuredly in tamriel aren't linear pure tribes folk. But are a distillations of diverse lineages of differing ethnicities coming together to form nations from multiple clans intermarrying. Not from patriarchs who begot the whole damn race. If you use indirect lineages from autosomal overall bloodlines. Not unbroken direct paternities and maternities but their dual parentage and all your ancestors dual parentages infinitely that purists and racists would like to forget exist and not be factored.

[@mike45blue]

The way I play Skyrim everyone gets it equally with the Dragonborn.