How do you live off-grid? - BBC News

The UK government proposes reducing UK greenhouse gas emissions to almost zero by 2050, under a new plan to tackle climate change.
The BBC's Michael Cowan went to meet a family who live self sufficiently in rural Wales, providing a glimpse of the kind of changes we may all need to make.
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[@MrHowardMoon]

We could all live a more eco-friendly and off-grid lifestyle, but I don't think the government would be too happy if 90% of the population stopped paying for water, gas, electric LOL

[@clovermark39]

The governments need to get behind this but all the big industries won’t back it so it can only be done by individuals. It’s easy enough to make your own solar set up. I did mine after following Will Prowse.

[@royceking5787]

Instablaster.

[@loveanyways]

They are living their best lives..God bless them..

[@gort9374]

years ago i would have thought of these people as crazed. Now I see them as smart. May they live long happy peaceful lives, away from this bastardization of life we experience

[@marcin959]

This is proof that its possible to have free energy for everybody in the world.

[@Itstheoaks]

This is what you do when you're tired of everyones shit

[@MrSammyboi1996]

Did you ask them to pay for a TV license?

[@greyfox2347]

😂

[@singlemumsuccess1784]

lmao

[@iTheNem3sis]

TV licence fee is legal day light robbery.

[@Bindersandcash19]

Council tax worse bill evet

[@petermounsey6189]

Off-grid living is often shown as hippy, earth loving and uncomfortable. We have lived, like thousands of others, off-grid in Spain for many years. It's a 5 bed villa with swimming pool, air conditioning, dishwasher and all the mod-cons. True, we get more sun so electricity is abundant and water can't be wasted but it's all free and environmentally sound. Total bills are €120 per year council tax for which, we get the same services as you would in the UK.

[@harmony3395]

Wow, how wonderful. I was just about to comment that why can’t you live off grid and still live in a lovely home.

[@ya00007]

I need to move to Spain. I need to get away from this Boris government for a start!

[@amandahunter4034]

@@ya00007 We can't - Brexit.

[@prolificlife1710]

Definitely a lifestyle to consider with the way the world keeps going

[@rushrush6754]

I bet jehovah witnesses still finds them without much effort

[@davegonnaway6007]

😄👍yeah but you could bury them out there no one would know lol

[@madlaz5795]

😭😭😂😂😂😂😂

[@ASMR-XI-ZUI]

Lol

[@fix-and-drive-diy-repairs]

Us Jehovah's Witnesses we love people and we will go to the ends of the world to find them and stay the Bible with them.

[@pandabanana530]

Almost choked on Apple Cider Vinegar 😂 😂 😂

[@goldfinga786able]

Good for them.. Look at the state of London..

[@MaggieOliver68]

London capital of stabbings northwest capital of grooming lets clean up

[@user-nd5vi2lo8w]

Londonabad.

[@MrMentalz2]

Londonistan

[@jneale2985]

IKR - these are living in a refugee camp when 90% of London should be and they chose to! Fair play.

[@angelagordon57]

Agreed this is the life.

[@tvrtvr6984]

Reject modern society.

[@arghjayem]

I think the approach in Wales is good in some ways, especially if you want to live as far off grid as this family are doing, but it is also limiting. It only presents two ideas really, either you live like everyone else does pay your electricity and energy bills along with your mortgage/rent, pay council tax and have have your rubbish collected…..or you go totally off grid on agricultural land providing you can work than land enough to make £6000 a year. Where’s the inbetween? Why can’t I build a small house that has minimal enough electricity needs that solar panels can provide enough power, but still has mains water connected BUT no sewage so I treat my own sewage whilst still having a regular job without having to seek my earning off the land I live on rather being forced to live in a Barrett Homes style house where no consideration whatsoever is taken for the environment or energy requirements save for the bare minimum required by local planning rules.

[@MissDoolally]

Because if they made it that easy, everyone would do it, and people would need to work less to afford to live and no one would be making the top 1% rich enough with their labour. It's not a coincidence that people only finish paying of their mortgage when they are close to retirement and no longer useful at work. Decisions made in politics are not to make our lives any easier, its to maximise the profits for the oligarchs. Everything wrong with this planet is being driven by greed. We already have the means to stop climate change but the rich will not give up exploitation no matter what the cost is to everyone else. Living is expensive on purpose.

[@primus1704]

They won’t notice the zombie apocalypse for a while...

[@Skbrvrisjsbdvetjtrbejudb]

@Hippie Chic that wouldn’t probably happen, the worst place to stay in a time of crisis is in a city, the more far away from society you are, the better. Remember the black death?

[@llnny863]

What a lovely family!

[@nathanw862]

this used to be how everyone lived it’s crazy how lost we’ve become

[@freesaxon6835]

First you throw away your TV. Then the begging letters fro t.v licencing. When the BBC come around to see what you are doing....... You tell them to get lost

[@Kaiyats]

You don’t need to pay for tv licences if you don’t watch broadcast tv and no one who is young does it’s all internet streaming

[@freesaxon6835]

@@Kaiyats ha yes I am an old git, and that's what I do

[@richardsandwell2285]

I have a normal house, but I am just about off-grid, apart from the water. It is the 21st Century now, we should not be paying anyone for energy when the world is so awash with the stuff, the world is now behind technologically by about 40years and all because of greedy energy fat cats and their shareholders. Petrol and Diesel cars should have been phased out in the 1980s, viable batteries should have been produced years ago, the only reason we have EVs now is because of Mobile Phones and the need to make batteries with high energy densities to run them. But research into batteries never happened years ago because the Fat Cats were too busy enjoying the high life, eating Caviar and having sex with high-class hookers while they squandered all our futures away and killed the natural world with their greed.

[@acarrot6634]

That is profound

[@snowflakemelter1172]

Nice fantasy . no one is holding it back technology as anyone is free to invent anything they want, the only "technology" that is not being utilised is that which doesn't work or is can't be economically produced.

[@richardsandwell2285]

@@snowflakemelter1172 Technology has been held back by the availability of fossil fuels combined with the greed of a minority that want to exploit and kill the planet for their own short term avaricious gain. I know that most houses could run totally off-grid costing their owners little to nothing, even in Winter in the UK we are awash with heat and energy. All these utility bills people are now getting into debt to pay because of inflation and low wages are mostly unnecessary. If people expected and demanded so much more from technology we would probably be ok. But the vast majority are scientifically illiterate, and the governments in the UK prefer most kids to leave School knowing little about science, they can always import a few scientists from abroad when required. But keeping our kids illiterate makes then easy slaves to the system of creating wealth for a tiny minority. The turning point for me came years ago about 1992 when I pretty much burned my foot on a hot paving slab one summer, I went back inside the house only to hear the burner ignite on my Baxi Bermuda gas boiler. My wife at the time had put it on to make hot water for a bath, today I no longer pay for hot water. In 2003 I built my own gravity solar thermal panel. Now I also have PVs for my electricity. Why should I pay to keep the greedy in luxury, when free power comes out of the sky.

[@annika9348]

Please could you share, how have you cut all your bills? :)

[@strawman3059]

@@snowflakemelter1172 1500 patents for free energy devices are refused each year.

[@steelcathedrals2112]

I am so envious, pure heaven

[@vickiecook6953]

We lived off grid for 10years.want to do it again

[@LoriSF124]

Vickie Cook I would love to do this. May I ask you why you stopped?

[@LoriSF124]

Red Sox! Originally from Florida

[@janenewman757]

Can you explain how you did it please would love to know

[@thesmallfarmerlife]

This should be all over the UK there is no reason why not. People want to live in many different ways and people should have access to the countryside not just for second home rich families. My channel has proved people want to live like this and its not hard to make £500 per month

[@steamgeezer]

The good life springs to mind, lol. I admire this lot, still have a TV though. I do not own one and people think that's wierd but I have a very fulfilling life without all that crap. Hats off to us all

[@amandahunter4034]

You don't have a TV, but you're still watching BBC News videos on a mobile phone, tablet or laptop that you bought.

[@nimakhaleghy3960]

I love you all. I am an Iranian, English, Spanish and I love you. Love you, I respect what you have achieved.

[@jasondevon481]

In England, our councils only care about big land owners with hundreds of acres. If you only own a couple of acres, they won't let you do anything, unless you bribe them (which does happen).

[@LBrownoffical]

@123 456 is this true? Does it have a name id like to read more

[@kkmiles3321]

This is not as easy as it sounds

[@CASULL455]

Look at Maximus Ironthumper videos. He explaines thouse things.

[@jamesw9873]

Don't even think its the planning thats a barrier for most people, its the cost of land in this country that makes it unattainable for most

[@ajrwilde14]

don't take ALL the eggs the chickens lay they'll get distressed and wear themselves out trying to replace them, leave a few behind; this is good husbandry that people used to practice

[@Kaiyats]

Wow thanks

[@djackson006]

No roads, smart man.

[@djackson006]

I bet his kids will be smart as fuck an aw.

[@The_OffGridFamily]

Really enjoyed watching this and seeing how this family manage their off grid life. So interesting to see how others do it 😊

[@DG-ed9ey]

Love the concept, my goal is somewhere between normal living and self sufficiency 👀 can’t be too ‘off the grid’

[@djackson006]

More of this plz.

[@OsamaBinLaden321]

If off grid colonies grew to much I imagine the state would shut it down

[@Guildarama]

They did with communes. They brought in council tax.

[@mtbroshow2355]

Very cool! Makes sense when you have universal healthcare. It would be very hard to do that in the US when you have to have employer provided or pay outrageous cost for coverage.

[@amandahunter4034]

But you must have plenty of self-employed people in the US.

[@adacy6199]

the BBC cut him off when he started mentioning the cuts ahahhahaha 3:50

[@tobsstone]

Governents will never have policies allowing people to live without their help, they will make it very difficult, they want to keep control your you.

[@ademaya4773]

They still have cell phones, laptops, flat screens...they aren't necessarily doing without.

[@retnavybrat]

True, but they aren't using government or corporate owned electricity to keep those running.

[@DC-fo3bn]

Clue is in the name "off grid", as in off the electricity power grid. Not using power from the grid does not mean you can't use a mobile phone. I don't think they said they were doing without, in fact the point of the video was them showing how they don't do without.

[@channelbizt]

This is a really dumb comment, lol

[@ademaya4773]

@@channelbizt I think you missed the point. I really appreciate their way of life because they can still communicate with the outside world. But you're entitled to your opinion.

[@paulwarren9854]

Is there a quarter acre spare for a larger carpentry workshop build and space to site a couple of poly tunnels. Estate agents been no use the last three years. Thanks.

[@32446]

I love Pembrokeshire. It’s a fabulous part of the UK.

[@aliasofanalias7448]

Short answer: savings

[@Mod-rw9cw]

House is lifting by the way you don't need electricity to keep the place tidy and clean.

[@sandymeade7612]

Fantastic. I love how you’re living

[@clairebear220990]

I would love to do this

[@bluebell3441]

It’s sad when going backwards , is forwards . But as they said , secure .

[@annika9348]

Only that it's becoming such a considered option, but i dont think its backwards anyway :)

[@fastmouce]

I want to do this I live in the us and plan on moving to the uk in a year but the limitations of my life and society has made me unable to do this but hopefully in the future this can be achieved.

[@fastmouce]

@@beanburger5689 better than the us where you would get shot for no reason

[@jamesw9873]

If you want the off grid lifestyle then the US is the place to do it, lands dirt cheap over there compared to the UK. For an adequate piece of land for homesteading and living off the grid in the UK you're looking at a minimum of £700,000 starting price. You can get crap land for cheaper, but even the s**t lands a load more expensive than the US. That's not even considering the legislation for building on land which is far stricter in the UK. I've been wanting to do this for a while, but realistically I'd need to move out of the UK to do it

[@marcin959]

This is one of the countries to live in Europe? Why on earth would you want to come to the UK?

[@fredgalaxy7632]

Im happy to adapt my way of life to one ad such, if the government allows it. There are many restrictions and legislations in place which prevents or makes it complicated for people in the UK to live off the grid. The major cities in the UK will not support this choice of living. The Midlands, Black country and Wales are probably the few realistic locations to achieve a off grid lifestyle. Secondly, purchasing land in the UK is not viable for most people (unless you are a millionaire etc). So renting a football pitch sized green land with other off the grid enthusiasts is the most realistic option. In addition, building permission is required. Possession of cows, horses and any other agricultural animals will require licenses and approval by the council. But if you can find a community estate built on a section of a farm or greenery land, then thats properties which is most likely the best option in terms of saving costs for developing accommodation from the ground up. Just need to seek permission of the land owner for making adjustments and slight infrastructural projects. Such as building own water pumping system. Setting up solar panels for natural electricity. And getting permission for the use of outdoor fire facilities.

[@Kueytwo]

I would love to live simply with slightly more luxury off grid for my retirement. But I would prefer to do this some place warm, like Barbados.

[@PsycInColour]

Yesss 🇧🇧 creating our own oistin Fridays 🐠 in a small self sufficient community 😆

[@karlosthejackel69]

Bye then

[@sif1921]

If this is so good for the Environment, Then why the hell is the government making this harder to do with new 2022 laws?

[@bluntycunty6952]

How do u stop paying your TV licence fee .?ohhhh ask a 90 year old war hero..👹👹👹👹👹

[@retnavybrat]

It's not that much of a stretch to assume that if they are paying for their cell phone contracts (or prepaid cards, if they have those in the UK) and their internet access, they are probably also still paying for their TV license.

[@user-bs3fh7xn2s]

No-one can be 'off grid' and certainly in a UK context most people - unfortunately - are deluding themselves. I had Great Grandparents who were 'off grid' in the true sense. They lived on a remote Scottish island, but they abandoned that life a century ago, when the islanders were evacuated. Life was incredibly hard and unrelenting and final break point was the lack of medical care and opportunites. It cannot be off-grid if you still reply on the NHS health service, on state education and also if your life depends on the modern world to supply your internet and tech needs, your clothes, your social care (which you may well need when you are older) and other paraphernalia of modern life. Short of literally cutting yourself off on an island, you are still linked by an 'umbilical chord' to modern life. If we all tried to achieve this the world would pretty quickly revert back to a medieval lifestyle. Not least in a British context and 68 million people - we would only have less than 1 acre of land each. In England it would be barely half an acre each.

[@LaWendeltreppe]

100% eco living, but the kids have plastic toys. This is totally odd. Because it's the easiest thing to not buy your kids such crap. (and yes one can tell grandparents to do the same: just leave it in the shops, do not buy it) Kids just don't need these kind of toys at all.

[@channelbizt]

What about second hand plastic toys? Saves them going to the landfill ;)

[@LaWendeltreppe]

@@channelbizt Why plastic toys anyway? They are so ugly!

[@channelbizt]

LaWendeltreppe Not to kids, they don't care 🤷‍♀️

[@gardeningwithkirk]

Beautiful we are also off grid

[@julierebornmummy9542]

would love to do this how do you start

[@paulstone7655]

I think this is great, and would like to live similar to that some day (getting there), but I also think people need to be shown the more realistic side too and not just the good stuff. The daily routine would not be easy, and definately far from convenient/comfortable....all this for a measly £500/month. People say it'd be great to be without bills etc but they're extremely naive. Let's say you start heating your house with wood you chopped up and stored from your own forrest (convenient if you had a forest) - this may take the equivalent of an hours preparation etc each day for the sake of getting less than ideal heat in the home (peaks and lows of heat and constant supervision). So over the Winter that's 140 man-hours. If you were paid for this hard labour at just minimum wage (chopping, storing, building shelters, loading and lighting fire each day etc) you'd earn £1220! Compare that to natural gas which only costs £600-£700 per heating season for the average house - and all automatically and perfect temperature. In other words, to heat "for free" you'd be working for less than £4/hour on the so called "savings" of the gas bill. Bottom line, people in Britain are SPOILED and IGNORANT and they don't realise it. They then complain about the government or the council etc all the time when their own lives are comfortable enough, or they just need to work harder/appreciate what they already have.

[@samrazubairi6623]

well said mate

[@paulstone7655]

@@samrazubairi6623 thanks :)

[@amandahunter4034]

But, the point is that doesn't matter. Your entire priorities change. If you don't work for an employer you have more time and energy to spend on tasks like chopping wood and also thinking up ideas to make self-sufficiency easier. It's more satisfying to sustain yourself. It's healthier to live a more active, outdoor life. You can create a heating system that suits your needs. Likewise, you can swap produce you grow and ideas and practical skills you have with neighbours, friends and family. There's no need to live the way we are used to - giving up most of our waking hours to employers to make other people rich and paying companies to meet our basic needs. We can do it ourselves, which is why the government isn't going to make it easy.

[@paulstone7655]

@@amandahunter4034 Hi Amanda, I resonate with your sentiments and admire the couple featured in the film, primarily due to their profound respect for life and unwavering integrity. While many of their choices may have arisen from past traumas and a desire to escape what they perceived as oppressive and unfulfilling lives, I believe they are presently leading lives marked by wisdom and purpose. However, it's vital to acknowledge a significant, often overlooked distinction. This division is not merely between "common individuals" and "those in authority." It fundamentally hinges on factors like being well-informed, industrious, and intelligent versus remaining uninformed, apathetic, entitled, and lacking in discernment. The former group may mistakenly assume that everyone shares their qualities, when in reality, a substantial portion of Britain's population fails to recognize and appreciate their current circumstances due to ignorance or lack of insight. For instance, some individuals on welfare receive equivalent income to those working full-time at minimum wage jobs, demanding significant dedication and time away from their families. Yet, they may still voice grievances about life, adopting a "woe is me" attitude and asserting an unwarranted entitlement to this financial support. They have no idea what it takes to earn a living, or the middle class trap. In contrast, the former group, transitioning from high-stress careers to a more idyllic existence, possesses the essential traits of resilience, work ethic, and a profound gratitude for life-a stark contrast to the latter group's disposition. Unfortunately, some individuals from the latter group may watch videos depicting such idyllic lives, nurturing fantasies and idealizing an existence that appears effortless and liberated from control, seemingly oblivious to the very system that sustains their livelihoods.

[@paulstone7655]

@@amandahunter4034 I'd like to also emphasize that while this lifestyle can promote a more present and meaningful existence, it doesn't come with a guarantee of such an experience. Factors like isolation or the stress associated with meeting the targets and guidelines of an off-grid life can affect this. Moreover, I believe that what's truly missing in Western societies isn't solely an overreliance on centralized systems (as opposed to self-sufficiency) but rather a deficiency in community spirit. While it's true that being trapped in a high-pressure career 24/7 can hinder one's ability to engage with life's more essential aspects, leading a simpler life should also address the critical aspect of fostering connections with our fellow human beings.

[@onestarabove7027]

Everybody used to live this way.

[@StephenJohnson-hl4kz]

WOW, i liked the documentary of living off grid as it does seem that normal city day life if too formal that it seems like everyone is doing the same in their lives as if they have to do a 9-5 job and i wonder if life should be like this. Well, i hope one day i could live like this as i like what i i see. Thank you.

[@jamiesiple7703]

Vancouver island have place like that,

[@kikidee3204]

I would love to live like that lady in a mud hut in the Welsh country side my youngest is almost ready to leave home and it is my dream to live like these off grid ppl but and its a big but well not a big butt u know what I mean like the guy said planning it is a mare and a half but once yr up and running I reckon it would increase your happiness immeasurably I admire these ppl so much

[@ashtongrist]

By not paying your fuck off tv license!

[@rajeshnagarajan1853]

All is well...

[@colleenjohnson7978]

I would love to do this!! But you need to buy the land right?

[@3101010]

looks like they live in a rubble pile.

[@meheretoday6968]

I actually found it very concerning when I saw it...

[@annefricker3621]

me heretoday Concerning why?

[@100musicplaylists3]

if i lived in a third world country i could build my own clay staw stone and wood home mortgage free.

[@tesoridellasia]

Cities are energy and basic resources slave, better to live life with freedom in the nature.......great work keep it up.

[@krob2327]

People have like to live in cities and fancy sterile suburbs are fools

[@focus_on_X]

Dream place.

[@Mr.George.N]

2:03 definitely lazybones

[@babysisdolls3336]

i love the washing machine. like to know more about their chicken house.

[@hevchip741]

Good for them, brilliant life

[@gordonferrar7782]

Frontier living. This is heaven.

[@hevchip741]

People need to cut back and stop wanting so much

[@meatylee9745]

Hi

[@javahub3269]

Can this family adopt me pleaeeeese

[@UKArtlover]

I love the idea of all this BUT BUT ... as long as people contribute in some way, even volunteering, to the society that provides the MRI scanners , medical research and and and ...when the tallow candle flickers out....:)

[@rangerofnorrath4277]

Thank you for posting Wow! 😍 That's amazing! I *love* the fact everything is off the grid. 💜 Good for them! 👍😊 Recycled products for living in a forest paradise! ♻ My husband loves television *far* too much 😞 Wish I could be there too. Love from Michigan USA 💝 Peace ✌

[@clairejevron6146]

Yep great but only the large companies get government backing, my family ran a Renewable energy business until the government cut the funding and took away the tariff scheme. They don’t care.

[@snowflakemelter1172]

Your family ran a business that didn't make a profit and you used the taxpayer to keep you afloat, and you still blame someone else !

[@clairejevron6146]

Who do you think you are to pass judgment? My family did make a profit but government funding was cut for small business start ups in the renewable energy sector. The funding was for training and financial support. Do you have any clue the cost involved for equipment, certification and any business that starts up in the first year. Before you go leaving your judgemental comment try thinking about that! Are you even in the UK?

[@clairejevron6146]

And yes we did blame the government! Perhaps you’d like to pass your comment on to the other small businesses who rely on government funding to get them started....I m sure they’d love to meet you in person and have you say that!

[@Jk20241]

This is still very far from off grid There is no off grid fyi

[@saffieyz1]

It's supposed to be environmentally friendly, not untidy

[@flemlion13]

Different people, different lives. Ever stood still by the amount of land a single family is occupying this way. On a small scale it might be greener, if everyone would do it that's a whole different ball game, There's not enough planet for all of us living this way, we need green city solutions as well.

[@LBrownoffical]

The idea isnt for everyone to do this, its for some, definitely more. The percentage of people doing this has declined vastly over the last few decades. We are being rounded up and dependant on much more than the Grid. Its poision down to the air we breath. People living like this would ease the strain on citys, improve health and the planet over all.

[@ballball6832]

Quick question. How do you eat meat in an environmentally friendly way, whilst using the least land as possible? By hunting?

[@ken-zp2tk]

You raise them.

[@jamesw9873]

With limited land hunting isn't really an option, you'll end up over hunting the game in your area. Chickens would probably be the most ideal option. Don't require too much land, cheap and easy to raise. Only issue is protecting them from predators while keeping them free range

[@Mod-rw9cw]

The same way as you do on grid but without electricity

[@petereames3041]

Great video thankyou!!!

[@michaelcooper7162]

I wish I could do this but I would not be allowed on disability beneficts

[@jadeg1804]

What does he say the hot tub is made of?

[@Mcmoothemilkmaster]

You don't pay your TV Licence for a start!

[@xhioni]

They are richer than any billionaire.

[@mai-pk1gf]

honestly that’s probably the dream

[@paulwarren9854]

A quarter to one full acre needed..

[@clairejevron6146]

If there’s a war or brown out at least you will be safe

[@jasoncatlyn7331]

This is great!

[@fix-and-drive-diy-repairs]

Living off grid is one thing, I want to live off taxes😂

[@joshuagreensmith4048]

It’s not hard.

[@lowski773]

like bbc is going to tell you how 😂

[@shannonkringen]

nice way of life

[@tjdillashow6140]

Off-grid what is tis word mean?(im from kz and i dont understant Please if you know answer

[@djackson006]

Tj Dillashow Not connected to the national grid. The electricity system of a country.

[@Aoocci791]

SO WHAT OUR THEY DOING FOR MONEY?

[@IaughEveryday]

They sell eggs and have 1 bill a month 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@bluntycunty6952]

There liberals!!!they spend everybody's else money darr

[@mikehanafin8543]

Get a caravan home best value ever

[@DoFeedThePigeons]

Do you actually own the land tho or can they be kicked off at anytime?

[@paulmarsh1419]

Now there’s a thing when the white man cuts down the last tree and cooks the last fish he will realise you can’t eat money?

[@snowflakemelter1172]

Racist moron. Who do you think is cutting down the rain forest or poaching the Elephants ?

[@aliasofanalias7448]

Don't confuse simple stereotypes with racism. This is why people have such a hang up about the word. Look into the definition of the word and ask yourself again if op's statement was racist. It was a stereotype. - a white man.

[@isaacharkton6169]

And yet the White man had to tell the brown and black man you can’t eat cow dung...

[@user-sj2vn1jq4c]

It's Wales not the bloody outback 😂

[@compendioussuccient6784]

Sure it’s possible, but who wants to live in squalor?

[@gwelamelamela5338]

He phoned them! Offgrid my arse! Also were not poverty trapped! Smell BS

[@gwelamelamela5338]

Theres always a couple of hundred grand stashed away with these types, these types are not doing this with nothing, the renewable energy guy, thats money for old rope, thats not work! Although to be fair to the vets they would have grafted, so fair play to them.

[@AlanWattResistance]

Prove to me that the climate is changing entirely, or in part, to man.

[@retnavybrat]

We all still need to do our best to minimize our environmental impact regardless of why the climate is changing.

[@charlestalks5638]

What would actually convince you? There an abundance of evidence that draws clear conclusions.

[@AlanWattResistance]

@@charlestalks5638 Why is a change in climate a bad thing?

[@AlanWattResistance]

@@firstnamett4656 Doesn't the climate always change? I imagine that major volcanic eruptions cause far more climate change, and the initial disaster last only for a few years.

[@charlestalks5638]

@@AlanWattResistance Yes it's true there have been several major changes in climate in history and they have all lead to mass extinctions. Is that a bad thing, well it takes looking at it from a philosophical level. In most people's eyes, the loss of life and habitat is seen as a bad thing, but then again it's happened in the past so it must be alright 🤔

[@somethingreal5042]

Are you poor, do you have expirience, LIVE OFF GRID

[@Mod-rw9cw]

Kill Me another moron who can't spell

[@DrewBaily]

Mod 66 another reject who is a keyboard warrior over spelling and grammar