In this Steve Tech Video I will show and explain how engine dynos really work.
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@1967novawagon3 жыл бұрын
A guy that is humble and yet don’t mind sharing his knowledge
@staglione793 жыл бұрын
He sent the drive shaft through the roof. Truss and all. That was some great information Steve 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@gafrers3 жыл бұрын
Wonderful how Mr. Morris explains stuff
@chezleymcdonald24813 жыл бұрын
Had no idea.. you explain stuff where even I can understand it
@craigfiles70673 жыл бұрын
Finally a great explication of how an engine dyno functions
@mrsquariel3 жыл бұрын
Fascinating. Thank you for posting this tech video Steve. Much appreciated.
@foghornleghorn85363 жыл бұрын
Steve I really appreciate the information that you're sharing. Thank you for going to the trouble of putting these videos together.
@johnloughrey94853 жыл бұрын
often wondered how the mechanic's worked thank you
@dougsmith45132 жыл бұрын
He ALWAYS does a great job of informing to the common guy. 👏
@MrJermbob3 жыл бұрын
Some amazing learnings in that video. Thank you. I never knew how a water brake works until now. Love from New Zealand to you :D
@MsKatjie3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Steve for taking the time out, to explain and show the various topics covered. Cheers, Adam.
@richardb62733 жыл бұрын
Love your tech videos! The fact that your willing to share just a little slice of your infinite knowledge is awesome! Problem is, a lifelong gearhead like myself, I'm wanting more in depth... Like camshaft development, cylinder head port, combustion chamber design. Valve and seat angles and the effects it has on flow.. Thanks Richard Bentley
@steamdriver69642 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure there's no one single way of designing cylinder heads for a host of needs turbo vs NA vs torque needs etc a flow bench and a lifetime of experimenting is really where you end up after the initial theory of airflow is taught.
@lolnitrous11792 жыл бұрын
That makes so much sense in my mind seeing it visually as well thanks man you're the champ
@tonydowns9424 Жыл бұрын
Great post Steve!, I've often wondered how the dyno works. Thank You for taking the time to make these Steve Tech Videos.
@kentstephens4770 Жыл бұрын
I could watch this stuff all day long. Just knowing and understanding the engineering of all of this is hard to comprehend. Thanks for the info.
@firestorm755 Жыл бұрын
Simple but very effective. Another great vid.
@Modna893 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see a sister video going over the controls for this. How much water it uses, how hot it gets, etc. I've always "conceptually* understood how water dynos work but this is the first time I have seen it explained in a way that totally makes sense
@12Senna3 жыл бұрын
yeep, i still can't total understand after the video,by how to measure the torque equal to input
@Modna893 жыл бұрын
@@12Senna that load sensor he had is measuring how hard the dyno is trying to twist. That load cell is about 1 foot from the center of the dyno, so if it reads 200 lbs, then it means the engine is putting out 200 ft-lbs of torque. You take that along with engine RPM and you have horsepower
@12Senna3 жыл бұрын
@@Modna89 I know this step but first it still need to apply the same torque with the engine input, by my guess is control the amount of water flow by the turbine
@Modna893 жыл бұрын
@@12Senna oh yes exactly. The more water allowed in, the more the dyno fills up, the more resistant it is to rotation
@amalfi4602 жыл бұрын
New sub here….came over from cleetus channel. This guy is a mechanical genius
@rickybailey7123 Жыл бұрын
Steve is the man so much knowledge I hope 1 day I could learn as much as he knows !!
@JAGacp453 жыл бұрын
These are great videos I always wonder how those dynos held that kind of power...thanks man
@426Roadrunner12 жыл бұрын
Thanks Steve. As per all the other comments, great information. I've always wondered about the inner workings of these things; now I know. Cheers.
@specforged56513 жыл бұрын
Love the “I don’t do electronics.” Totally in the same boat. If I can see it and deduce how components apply to one another to produce an outcome, no problem. Electronics and computer crap, no thanks. This man does a great job explaining how mechanical devices work for those of us who brains work that way and couldn’t care less about the computer stuff.
@ronaldlockhart8657 Жыл бұрын
As always you're pretty much amazing the knowledge that you've developed over the last I don't know probably 30 or 40 years it's mind-blowing enjoy your videos keep making them thank you
@scottleggejr Жыл бұрын
Wow look at all the cavitation pits on the rotor! Too cool to see.
@02f4irider Жыл бұрын
You are a very knowledgeable man Steve! It would be an honor to be able to work under your automotive knowledge!
@RealSteelStreet Жыл бұрын
“Wadder” 🤣 Great info and explanation, I actually understand torque converters better now👌🏼
@jlunde353 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I did learn something today. Really interesting, appreciate it.
@janchristensen79932 жыл бұрын
Had no clue. How interesting. Thanks Steve.
@joepro.736 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Steve for your perfect explanation😊
@glenbrannon72242 жыл бұрын
I love watching you tune these big block turbo engines !😊
@scottthomas5999 Жыл бұрын
Great info. Always wondered how dumps worked. Thanks for explaining. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻🍷
@jamesgravel77553 жыл бұрын
I know how a dyno works. But now I know how a dyno works. Cool vid. Most people don’t know HP is a calculation. Torque is the real measurement. When I learned that things became more clear.
@genelong17483 жыл бұрын
Great lesson. Very good video. Thanks Steve
@Rusty.17762 жыл бұрын
America would benefit greatly by having more Steve's! ❤️🤍💙 THANK YOU!
@user-yl8fw7mb9x4 ай бұрын
Hugely informative, nice details. Helped a lot, thank you!
@stevegirard817 Жыл бұрын
Love the tech!!! Always wondered!!!
@doncarlson83913 жыл бұрын
Great look inside an absorber, thanks!
@tfab1103 жыл бұрын
This was way cool Steve, thanks for the lesson !1
@henrycoles55842 жыл бұрын
Excellent explanation.
@planesofpaper2 жыл бұрын
Hi from NZ. This was such a good video. I learned heaps. Thanks Rex
@darylmorse Жыл бұрын
Very interesting video. Thanks for sharing.
@zakksrage2 жыл бұрын
How do you gain this much knowledge about every single aspect of engine building and parts manufacturing to the point where you are redesigning dynos? Simply amazing
@JonHop1 Жыл бұрын
dude must have a phd in engineering! lol.. That, or he just has a great mind for engineering! Some people are just like that. That want to know how things work and how they can make them better.
@Stormin06096 Жыл бұрын
Great explaination.
@erichuff35723 жыл бұрын
Really interesting man. Thank you the inside information.
@randywl89252 жыл бұрын
I love what you do here on Steve Tech. You're one of the guys that litterally goes that extra 1/4 of a mile. ......Not good for time slips. 😁😁😁 ...but gains you in respect. You have mine. I was expecting a dyno unit to be 10 times that size.
@terjegjerstad96922 жыл бұрын
Very informative video. Thanks a lot
@tracyterpstra3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video!
@michaelloth5870 Жыл бұрын
Steve, I had never seen the inside of a water brake before. It was interesting to see the fins inside the brake / torque converter. Thank you.
@jglennson25913 жыл бұрын
Nice info, well explained..thanx👍🤠
@JohnRoberts713 жыл бұрын
Great content thanks for sharing, very informative
@inactive673 жыл бұрын
Thank you Sir!!! It was voodoo behind the motor as far as I knew. Wondering what kind of flow rates you have with all that sheared water.
@danielsmith-ze3wy3 жыл бұрын
Awesome thanks for the explanation
@larrychristopher9147 Жыл бұрын
Good video, i too would like the calibration process and electronics behind it.👍
@Bigcheif3603 жыл бұрын
Very good tutorial. 👍
@markshaw32193 жыл бұрын
Thank you Brother! I learned something I didn't know. Good stuff!! God's blessing... Acts 20:24
@dptp9lf3 жыл бұрын
Great explanation!!!
@txsailor573 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see a slow motion video of that driveshaft going through the roof! Cool video thanks
@ts3023 жыл бұрын
Thank you Steve!!!!
@brianalbrecht4423 Жыл бұрын
That was very cool...! Always woundered how dynos got the readings...thanks Steve...great video....with those numbers ....there must be alought of upkeep on the dynos....?...!
@michaelmcduff22634 ай бұрын
On two stroke bikes engines we call that area the 'Squish' band which is 360 degrees around the head chamber. We keep it around 0.020" which keeps piston crown temps down. That's important because as the under side of the piston dome temp rises...........so does the area in the lower crank case which raises the temp of the incoming fuel charge. That lowers the volumetric effeciencty of the engine. Less power.
@curvs4me3 жыл бұрын
That's absolutely incredible!! Love the full feed billet brake. You can run dual load cells and average the 2 or 3 together for even higher torque in the Cap'n Insano range.
@12Senna3 жыл бұрын
maybe not that easy to make it works, input shaft on first turbine may have failure
@curvs4me3 жыл бұрын
@@12Senna You are right on. The shaft closet to the motor would have to be strong enough to handle the torque for 3 brakes on a 3 brake system. The second shaft will be to take the torque of the two absorbers resisting it's rotation and the 3rd will only need to handle it's own resistance. Good catch on that one!
@12Senna3 жыл бұрын
@@curvs4me well, as a graduate of engineer for one year, should be count as basic judgment 😏👌
@bb7549 Жыл бұрын
Just watched this one Steve after you mentioned it in your last video. Absolutely fascinating. I never understood how this worked, This video really helped me understand the basics. Do you build you own dyno from scratch or modify one that you buy?
@chromezone43713 жыл бұрын
Subscribed. Thankyou Steve
@CARRIERGUY Жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@brentfay65153 жыл бұрын
I was once told how to make a dirt cheap dyno was to take a trans and put a 12" lever on the output shaft onto a load cell. All you got was torgue but it could show that some changes were good. You had to do the math for horsepower Thanks very informative.
@billshiff20602 жыл бұрын
That wouldn't work because torque converters actually multiply the torque. The dynos use a fluid coupling that don't multiply torque.
@chrisprattt Жыл бұрын
Yes!👊🙏 I just got learnt
@RadDadisRad3 жыл бұрын
Put a vent on either side of the water inlet and just install a solenoid on each vent so the correct vent will be open when running either direction.
@bigredracer78483 жыл бұрын
9👍's up Steve M thanks again for taking us all along with you for the rest of the story
@MrBlackbutang4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@robertm21722 жыл бұрын
Loved it
@drifta3137 Жыл бұрын
This man spitting straight facts
@ulrichmachtle4864 Жыл бұрын
BIG THANX!
@Bad666Moon3 жыл бұрын
This is exactly how I thought these worked, but I never knew for sure. Cool.
@1slow5point03 жыл бұрын
Didn’t know about the load cell. We have some in my hydraulic shop at work that are similar but much larger in size. Have a 10k ft/lb one we are setting up.
@cetromero153 жыл бұрын
👍🏼 very cool 😎
@Freecomments4u3 жыл бұрын
steve you have a unique way of saying "water". Im from the south, its strange hearing it pronounced properly.
@thunderdick61173 жыл бұрын
I'm from Arkansas so I noticed that same thing he definitely sounds like he is from the north
@MrBlackbutang4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing link wondering why link was not posted. Thanks steve
@AntiPattern328 Жыл бұрын
Common sense. Steve says like this so -> this should work! I'm golden! 😂🤣😂🤣😂😂
@given0fox9682 жыл бұрын
Thanks Steve. Not really how I’d imagined it worked, and realistically way less ‘magic’ and much more mechanical. Appreciate you sharing. BTW - am I crazy, or was this video shot earlier than 2021? For whatever reason, you look like a kid in this. 👍👊🇺🇸🤘
@81806342 жыл бұрын
Is boiling the water an issue on longer runs? Also does cavitation eat the rotors at all? Finally what's the big advantage of a water based absorber vs. an eddy current absorber in this application, is water just a lot less expensive to scale up to this capacity? Excellent videos, I appreciate the info!
@jkotka3 жыл бұрын
very cool. How do you calibrate the dynos? Do you somehow take into account the energy spent in heating the water?
@johndevries87593 жыл бұрын
Good question, I was wondering the same thing. The load cell can be calibrated easily by the weight since it is a one for one ratio, but it would seem like there are other losses that need to be accounted for.
@billshiff20602 жыл бұрын
All the "losses" actually appear as torque. The heat is the excess power being absorbed in order to read how much torque is required to hold it back. So there is no need to account for it to determine the torque. The pillow block bearings on the outside of the housing however do eat into the torque figure a little bit but I doubt he would compensate for that ( but I would, in fact I would use air bearings there). It's Sort of like tractor pull; You don't care how much power its making or how much dirt it throws around, all you want to know is how much weight it can pull and how fast it can pull it. Once you know that, the exact power , accounting for everything, can be calculated.
@bucksnortbumblefuk6872 Жыл бұрын
I made a dyno in fluid power college. Used a hydraulic pump, flow meter, and some math.
@bdugle13 жыл бұрын
Very cool! I think the absorber measures torque but absorbs horsepower. If you had 1000 lb-ft at 2000 rpm vs 8000 rpm, I think there’d be a difference in how fast the water heated up. Still a very interesting view of your dyno absorbers! Thanks!
@1966pahandyman3 жыл бұрын
if i'm understanding this correctly , the water in the absorber just transfers the load to the load cell irregardless of the number of absorber chambers, amount of water. Higher torque engines would need more or larger absorbers to harness the torque and apply load to load cell. and i dont think water pressure would change the "calibration" of the test. torque measured at 1 foot
@timothyhess9403 Жыл бұрын
Hi Steve, I build experimental and certified aircraft engines. I’m building a new dyno and are curious if you control load by regulating pressure on the inlet side or the outlet? I have always done it on the outlet. Nobody makes dynos for aircraft engines so I have to make everything myself. Thanks love the channel
@mrd.808 Жыл бұрын
Curious if Fluidampr might be able to design you a custom damper for your engine dyno tool?
@malinamalinovcАй бұрын
amazing explanation! I am researching a electro motor dynos had no idea you could create such a load it sounds better as to a electronic brake since is analog/organic resembles natural enviroment better. It does seem there are very complicated thermodynamic and fluid dynamics involved. How do you change the parameters in calculating based on temperature, flow and pressure, after you make changes to the structure of the dyno?
@r1son3 жыл бұрын
Great video Steve Can i ask do you change the water pressure going in as the engine rpm rises or is it just a constant tap pressure
@bamoffett3 жыл бұрын
I also wonder about the correlation between the water pressure and engine loading, and how it’s applied.
@magnus53563 жыл бұрын
Those parts are surprisingly small for the power made! I used to run a 'slightly' bigger Tyler brand that could take ~ 5000 hp/15,000 ft/lbs. Did blow driveline on that, which was hella scary and made a mess!
@scottyhankemeier9380 Жыл бұрын
That's very interesting. Do torque convertors in cars operate the same, the oil only stays on the outer rim of the convertor housing? I would think that you would want no air in the oil or water at all. But I suppose that's impossible with the shearing and heat.
@MrBrettrx72 жыл бұрын
Awesome info and it makes me wonder how the “load cell” works. Does it measure the stretch?
@jakefriesenjake2 жыл бұрын
It's like a regular bathroom scale, but larger.
@lees69023 ай бұрын
Steve I can't believe how much you look like Kyle. I've never noticed it before.
@toddformanek84953 жыл бұрын
Great video Steve. Curious, what you use for that backup safety strap for the potential 3,000+ ft/lb shockload? And do you attach it directly to the main case so that if the bolts in the bracket were to somehow shear off you'd be more likely to minimize the carnage? Also, you mentioned that you previously were breaking the input shafts. How high do the rpm's flash when these monsters you build all of a sudden go from having a massive load to freewheeling? Man, the worst case scenarios sound terrifying!
@digitald58512 жыл бұрын
Those are excellent questions!
@jakefriesenjake2 жыл бұрын
Oh don't worry. I'm sure they have an msd box with an rpm limiting chip.
@toddformanek84952 жыл бұрын
@@jakefriesenjake rev limiter does not / would not help in that scenario
@jakefriesenjake2 жыл бұрын
@@toddformanek8495 some boxes have a 2 stage rev limiter, that should take care of it.
@toddformanek84952 жыл бұрын
@@jakefriesenjake If you have an engine that is rapidly accelerating against a big load (the dyno) and that load instantly disappears (broken dyno input shaft) the engine is gonna instantly zing to the moon regardless if spark is present or not
@onedayiwillmakesomecontent3 жыл бұрын
That's some shop, full of adult candy!
@jpoplin1 Жыл бұрын
What type of dyno dose the “Dyno Smith” use? Giant marine & truck engines thanks
@rocketsurgeon113 жыл бұрын
I see that old rotor has a LOT of cavitation damage, and that was my main question...how do you control cavitation, how do you tell when it is cavitating, and have you messed with different blade angles/curvatures on the rotor (obviously that would make it 1-way)?
@hatersaywhat89863 жыл бұрын
Everyone knows, doesn't matter how many people are standing around, only the boss can operate the dyno.
@TheAnonymous1one3 жыл бұрын
This was very educational. Im still wondering how it determines how much torque is being made.
@curvs4me3 жыл бұрын
Torque is a measurement of the pounds of force 1 foot away from the output shaft. The load cell S shaped thing he said he hasn't broken yet. The motor is trying to turn and the water brake (absorber) is resisting the motor from increasing speed (rpm) faster than 300 rpm per second. The amount of brake it has to use is the lbs of force on the load cell. So if he gets a reading of 1500ft-lbs, the motor is twisting the brake with 1500ftlbs and that on the load cell
@gsaucham9 ай бұрын
Hello Steve, I have a couple of Stuska XS-211. How much power you are able to absorb using this venting port as water inlet ? Did you have trouble with the dyno shaft by increasing the torque capacity?