How Does China See the Future?

The Chinese Communist Party (CCP) promulgates an image of historical ascendance. China is set to become, in 2049, a “Modern Socialist Country that is prosperous, strong, democratic, civilized, and harmonious,” while the international realm will blossom into a harmonious and multi-civilizational “Community of Common Destiny.” Sociologist Eric Hendriks, who previously worked for Peking University and is presently a visiting fellow at the Danube Institute, will argue the CCP’s official vision of the future constitutes a sober utopianism. Transmitted through party-speak, GDP statistics, and the dull rhythm of party gatherings, this utopianism draws on Marxist-Leninist and classical Chinese sources while resonating with optimism in the broader society. “Things are getting better and better” (yue lai yue hao), a common Mandarin idiom insists. But are the Chinese really still that optimistic? And how different is the sense of the future in Western politics?
Participants:
-Dr. Eric Hendriks, Visiting Fellow, Danube Institute
-Dr. David L. Dusenbury, Senior Fellow, Danube Institute
Moderator: David Oldroyd-Bolt, Visiting Fellow, Danube Institute

[@etow8034]

If the Danube Institute wants to have any credibility, at least get The Communist Party of China (CPC) right instead of The Chinese Communist Party (CCP) !

[@ZeusSheen]

So the pinkie is here? Interesting 🤔

[@Lost_Johnny]

Exactly! Two academics working together cannot even get the name of the CPC right. Not impressive.

[@yananneteoh9818]

If people love China and its values, they use the abbreviations CPC and CCP inter- changeably. They're fond of China and communists... as in the association of ideology in this talk, the communists are for the datong or communes and community... all people belonging.

[@etow8034]

@@yananneteoh9818 Not really the acronym CCP is deliberately used by the western mainstream media as a derogatory meaning to the Chinese Government ! The Chinese should come up with derogatory labels for western governments as well.

[@vanveakrin276]

The correct name is. CPC

[@DBGE001]

The Danube Institute is a conservative think tank founded in 2013 and based in Budapest, Hungary. The institute is financed through the Batthyány Foundation (BLA) and receives Hungarian state funding.

[@NuestraPatriaGrande]

There is an absence of the principle of “Best Practices “ in this discussion. China is constantly changing because its leadership uses best practices in governance! This meritocratic tradition is also part of Chinese culture!!

[@etow8034]

In western political systems even the garbageman and janitor has more merit as they need a high school leaving certificate before they are hired. Political leaders in the west don't need to even finish high school !

[@julioduan7130]

这个学者也是“一瓶子不满，半瓶子晃荡”。

[@michael511128]

Excellent interpretation. Some little details are not exactly the same as in the Chinese language-Unseen change in a century-is more like “Centurial Change” or changes unseen in centuries. Not really referring to Century of Humiliation but 500 years of Western world dominance under imperialism and now finance capitalism hegemony. That has little to do with Datong or ancient philosophies but real world conflicts and wars, financial crises, global warming, or poverty brought about by some people of the West at large. This is the common understanding of the global south, BRICS, SCO and some other governments, as well as many in the US and in the West. Harmony is one thing and China doesn’t bully or invade but certainly capable of fighting aggressively. We do have Covid data. After the first wave centered at Wuhan causing some 4800 deaths, the 20 months between May 2020 and January 2022, China’s zero Covid period, China had less than 50 Covid deaths while the US exceeded a million. Also the majority of cities were only locked down for 4-6 weeks, so happened it was Chinese New Year Holidays during February. People had extended holidays at home with family. After 2 months the parks and tennis courts were opened again. No more lockdown until the end for most except several places hit by first waves of omicron. Of course western media needed to completely shut out the good and stick in the bad including outright lies.

[@Andy-P]

China does bully - eg Phillipines and no one believes CCP statistics now. Especially Covid. China speaks for all those people who understand the same thing? Looks like CCP already has a mandate to rule the world.

[@Andy-P]

No one believe CCP covid figures outside China. Some leaks from China have put Chinese deaths at 1.75 million but still at of guesswork here.

[@henryterranauta9100]

🇨🇳🇨🇳Original lecture🇨🇳🇨🇳on Chinese millenarism🇨🇳🇨🇳followed by insightful questions and answers🇨🇳🇨🇳It shows Blaue Donau is alive and well. Grüss ❤

[@ministermark6349]

Being Chinese American, I so enjoy these snippets of congeniality. Someday soon is best

[@harryloo8544]

What a great breath of fresh air. Thank you for the objective and rational discussion.

[@seikai2]

I would recommend that you spent your efforts to improve your western system to be truly more fare and just because as the rest of world see that western world are practicing double standards, propaganda to their own population, messianic to convert others just to democracy just as a religion. Look at the world today, the western liberalism has failed, Reconnect to you population and you will the path. You stop worrying about the Chinese problem but more focus on you own problem. The Chinese has their own problems and the positive thing is they are fully are aware of that, in contrast you as western governments still believe your values are universal, higher than others therefore the values of the rest of the world are considered inferior. That’s is ok, continue in this intellectual biased and you will see how this will look like in 30 years. Aware, Assess, Adapt and Adjust are the way to improve oneself. By the way if you still use Wall Street journal, New York Times, Foreign Affairs etc, as your source of information, well you are the victim of your own western propaganda. Read more others non-western sources.

[@Andy-P]

This was a good video about China. Not the west. There are loads of video's here on uTube. All the CCP ones put the west in a bad light. I think he under estimates American / western resolve in a war that puts the western way at stake. It won't be like the "forever wars".

[@vanveakrin276]

Dutch REVOLT against the SPAINISH ROYAL POWER served as A SYMBOL for Self Determination for the Dutch population... well done for the DUTCH NATION

[@onedaytan5440]

有意思，其实我觉得还有一种视角是被广泛忽略了，那就是民俗作品中的“思潮”，尤其是现实的中西方文明对撞过程在民间文化作品中的体现，以及相关作品中对未来的某种推演或预期，在这当中，我推荐研究两种获得了广泛传播的思潮，其一是带有纯真的积极畅想的作者“大眼珠”的《黎明之剑》，另一种是更加具有现实主义视角但更加隐晦，同时与现实进程的纠缠更加诡异的作者“爱潜水的乌贼”的《诡秘之主》🧐

[@JIANGTG]

1. China sees the future with two different perspectives. 2. The first internal vision is to create a much better living and harmonious environment for the people , in addition to achieving strong economic and military objectives so as to counteract the current " world order " dominated by hegemony which is the root cause of world chaos. 3. The second external vision is to help other countries, including Africa , to achieve continuous development based on China's mutual prosperity concept (相互尊重 ， 共存共荣 ，人类命运共同体 ）.

[@computer-ot8si]

to get harmonious environment by banning this and that? lol to achieve continuous dictatorship, and encourage other less developed countries continue to run in dictatorship form as the development?

[@vanveakrin276]

Ming emperors were involved in the Burmese Eastern Province until now 2024:..

[@vanveakrin276]

In the 19 th Century .. Chinese was ruled by an outsider The MANCHU EMPERORS and the MANCHU military power..

[@organizer14]

Congratulations Eric, you got the essence and dominant value of harmony in Confucius. Thank you!

[@organizer14]

Confucius teachings.

[@organizer14]

Yes correct understanding, all civilizations/cultures at a high vibration of harmony and friendship (transcend linear level of understanding to 500 vibration or frequency. See Dr. David R. Hawkins MD PhD. Map of consciousness)

[@organizer14]

Yes, just as America would not tolerate missiles in Cuba by Russia; likewise China will never allow US to interfere in its domestic affairs re Taiwan, which is part of China. US has trillions of $ of deficits and other domestic priorities to handle.

[@candrawijaya2107]

I like China country ❤️

[@FC-vp9ej]

This guy said hes not a China expert, that's definitively TRUE lol

[@stephenyang2844]

Eric and guest questioner talked about China threat conutering the Chinese efforts in doing good for the world; they don‘t appreciate the Chinese psyche --striving for prosperity and harmony in the world.

[@vanveakrin276]

CPC ' s Moto is the Constant Struggle to win

[@Y2KMillenniumBug]

Here Malaysia 4JHJ+4CH Petaling Jaya, Selangor

[@Hello.Sailor]

A European expert on the Italian Renaissance didn't realize the Nina, the Pinta, the Santa Maria were Spanish? Dude needs to hand back his diploma

[@user-ne8yi1io4h]

Ill give you the answer - to be left alone peacefully to trade and improve the lives of her citizens. To be strong enough to prevent another colonization, to defend it's territorial integrity. That's all.

[@Andy-P]

Phillipines isn't Chinese territory unless by right of conquest. Like Russia in Ukraine.

[@vanveakrin276]

Chinese Locomotives are going to replace Jet engine technology ... Chinese are preparing for a 800 km / hour Rail Transport

[@man-hotan9152]

The Civilization Enneagram, the Historical Sociiocosmic Enneagram, the Historical Technocosmic Enneagram, the Geobiosociotechnocosmic Octaves and the Historical Biocosmic Octaves within the current Presente of the Pangeacosmic Octave of the MI-FA Interval of the (our) Ray of Creation will enter a phase of a grand harmonious more peaceful development......but still temporarily

[@vanveakrin276]

The Chinese in 2024 lays the RAIL at 5 km at a time by Automatic rail laying machine to smooth the Quality of Rail Line .. this is a definite Change. One rail is 5 km long

[@tibetanshepherd]

Who else would any other junkie of Western psyche?

[@adindahutabarat_sinolog]

Eric your talk was so unstructurred, i barely get any clear points/messages, is it intended to be so...anw finally in 43:00 the moderator concluded something about utopianism, thanks to him....btw there is a term of "Sinologist" fyi, its not an exaggerative, you can refer it to H.E. Kevin Rudd for sure 😊

[@vanveakrin276]

ByD and CaTL make the world goes round . A possible future Chinese investing in A New Rail from Greece to Serbia...??.

[@vanveakrin276]

A BUDAPEST THINK TANK .. that's wonderful... Chinese BYD AND CATK are Both in Hungary for the Future of Hungary which will dominate electric car production of EU ..

[@Andy-P]

Not unless EU can counter it. Lots of European jobs at stake.

[@vanveakrin276]

JEW military experts are in Southern Hymmalaya with the Indian military to fight the PLA

[@tonytan6547]

keep on dreaming with your delusion

[@tengchuankhoo6585]

I would not trust my cat with this guy

[@keungpang2176]

Three white guy talk about china.😂😂😂😂😂

[@Y2KMillenniumBug]

The Redemption Lamb. Blessed are those who come in his NAME 😂🙏😇🐑

[@vanveakrin276]

NEW UYGHURS generation are willing to join the PLA because of Palestine... young UYGHURS are speaking Chinese Mandarin and are joining the PLA for Better outlook and for Preparation for Palestine

[@tonytan6547]

The Uyghur problem was at first created by CIA(USA) ---- with those riots in Xinjiang n Kunming. When that failed, US/West continued with those smearing rhetorics even most muslims don't believe

[@yananneteoh9818]

@"seikai I think your retort here m1ight be a case of mistaken identity q

[@ZeusSheen]

How does this video have so many comments??? Bots or prisoner commentators are here?

[@tonytan6547]

China was united n ruled as a single nation for more than 2000 years. China is/was of course a civilisation concept at the same time. China civilisation was core concept for more than 4000 years.

[@vanveakrin276]

1849. - 1949 Humiliation Suffering.....1921 - 2021 the CpC empire ... great Rejuvenation of China. 2021 - 2050. .. future PROSPERITY by the Book of Rites. All Speculation..??

[@kammantom]

When your data and reference is based in other than Chinese data and language you have created abstract or impressionistic view of the subject. That becomes a biased presentation to only a subset of viewers. Interesting narrative at best.

[@pamelang3261]

Rather disappointed with the audience and the panel members as to their western mindset of rivalry, war, competition, live but not let live!, etc. Try so hard to get out of your box!

[@vanveakrin276]

Islam Admiral Zeng Her 1421 went to East Africa Kenya with the World ' s Biggest Fleet...2024 .. Chinese Navy is on the way to be the Biggest Navy in the world ..600 years cycle. ?? ..

[@walhdamaskus2408]

How see se the future? Why u ask the chinese, instead just listening what non chinese guys. 😂

[@saadatkhan9583]

i dont know what to make of the socks at 4 minutes.

[@NoohCee]

What a joke. Millenialism is almost the exact opposite of Chinese character, society, culture and philosoohy.

[@qake2021]

🤣🤣🤣... Westerner think in short-term quick profit. ✌️✌️ 🇨🇳 think in long-termthat benefitsall people.👌👍👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

[@Y2KMillenniumBug]

Was Jesus Jew or Chinese?

[@qake2021]

😯 neither... may be Muslim.😁😁😁😁

[@michayng4105]

How does China see the future ? Now China faces a real estate market/ banking crisis worse than the US real estate crisis 2008. As a Chinese (HongKong), I expect depression at least for the remaining of thus decade. Look at Japan, took them 30 years and not fully recovered. What do you expect for China ?

[@80130723]

Do you have any valid data to back up your statement? Or you just simply hate the central government?

[@Andy-P]

I expect China to follow the Japanese lost decades. Big difference Japan got rich before it got old.

[@NoohCee]

Such a strangevand akward speaker. Really painful to listen to.

[@netizencapet]

While his humility is appreciated, David Dusenbery was a clod, lacking sufficient insight to merit a recorded speech of any kind.