How Does it Compare?? New Holland Tractor Backhoe!

Subcompact Tractor Digs stump with backhoe. Tractor Time with Tim discusses capabilities.
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[@BigRooster616]

This is the same tractor I bought new in 2020 . I had the dealer install a thumb on my backhoe . I have removed stumps two times the size of that stump . I also installed a 24 foot 18 inch Galvanized Covert with my tractor. Picked it up off the trailer with the Backhoe and thumb . I'm 100% impressed with My Lillte Boy Blue Tractor. Work Horse on my little 4 acre off grid Homestead.

[@rdl3255]

You're reaction to the seat breaking was a good laugh ! Laughing with you not at you !! Another good video !

[@Harry-zz2oh]

Tim wanted to try out the "recliner mode" for the seat. From what I could see, it was not well designed for the reverse position.

[@bnewton5922]

It’s always interesting to see advantages and disadvantages in other brands. Thanks for the demo. 😊

[@DougAlesUSA]

I love how you explain the reasons to grind a stump vs dig it out.

[@davidkuznetsov9316]

I always find your reviews to be honest I hope you never change that. keep em coming, God bless you

[@kylerayk]

Several folks on TBN have stated on multiple occasions that New Holland is VERY proud of their parts. A personal friend of mine has confirmed this as well.

[@Harry-zz2oh]

Are they as proud as JD or Case IH?

[@paulkleinschmit9871]

I can't speak about JD or NH specific (what separates a caseih from a nh) but Case IH (and New Holland common parts are the same price) is kinda funny. Some stuff is pretty reasonable and other stuff makes you wonder how much gold is in it. It's all over the place.

[@chrisrexroat3240]

I would be curious while you have Holly to do the same turning radius, lift capacity tests, etc that you've done with Johnny and the kubota.

[@eternalbliss1168]

As much as I love the functions of the 1025R, and that is my tractor of choice, I wouldn't be too upset if when your done playing with this one and of course making a few upgrades, you can just drop it off at my farm. Loving the blue, thanks for the demos on this model. It is very interesting to watch someone who is experienced with the sub compacts using different brands and being able to compare real time operations on these units.

[@richwilcox9564]

Great job on this video. I also have stumps to remove

[@benhogan6987]

Tim if you leave that stump 3 ft high or so they are much easier to get out. You are able to get much more leverage to pull it over after you dig out around it.

[@DavidM-yv9js]

Fun to watch. Used equipment takes time to go over. Like Holly's broken seat back. Removing stump and roots allows you plant something. I watched a channel with a Volvo 250T excavator pull 14 inch trees and stump out in 30 seconds. 36 inch wide bucket with finger attachment.

[@greggoesgaming]

Finally get to order my 260B for my 1025R this mornin, thanks for answerin some questions I left in past video comments and thanks for the videos. Keep em coming, I love watchin.

[@Bobcatboy]

That is one nice machine

[@NHHalKnowsHow]

Tim, I had about a 30" hemlock stump that was right beside my woodshed and I dug it out with my Kubota B2920 with the BH65 hoe. I put about 3 and a half hours on my tractor and couldn't lift it when I got it loose but I finally got it out. I rolled it about 50' to my burn pile and I'm amassing a pile of brush around it.

[@ronniebuck2954]

Wish there had been TONKA toys like that when I was a kid

[@jimmywalker9245]

The breakout force on the tractor seat wasn't very high. 😁

[@skiqsr]

There is a seat lock....

[@Harry-zz2oh]

Last year I had an apricot tree removed. It was almost 44 years old (planted in 1976 or 1977). The base of the stump is over 36" and the height was about 45 ft. Many of the branches were 6~8" in diameter but a few were over 12" diameter. The reason it was removed: some of the roots were under the slab of the house, the porch (solid concrete) and the brick chimney. It was cracking and had already caused damage to the drywall by cracking it. The roots are all over 8" diameter and go down as well as out to the sides. About 12 years ago I removed a mullberry tree which had a tap root going down about 3.5~4 ft. with lateral roots (6~8" diam.) going out over ten feet. I used a tracked digger and almost upset it trying to dig out the roots. I ended up hacking them with an axe and a chain saw then pulled them out with the bucket.

[@kapperoutdoors]

That's a nice little tractor package for a country homeowner or small acreage parcel. Good point with leaving it in gear while you are operating to keep it more steady.(although I'm sure you'll hear about that LOL ) Yep, the curl is the most juice on the mini excavator as well. Carry on nice work!

[@jd1602155]

Good little machine for a plumber or electrician digging in new services or making residential underground repairs. We had one at the power co. Easy to get through gates in backyards

[@Fatamus]

I found (for me) it to pretend the smaller equipment is to keep you from using your back - a glorified shovel if you will. It is not going to have the power of the big boys but it can save your back. If you work within the limits of the machine it will give you years of extra Time with the Tractor, Tim.... LOL sorry had too. I have an idea for "a" ripper on the bucket ... we do it here all the time in Alaska where the ground is frozen most of the time ... I'll email ya a pic

[@russorpcom]

I like your reviews both good and bad. I realize someone else could have a different opinion. However by watching the machine work instead of just a commentary alone as it sits, I find that I can now make my own thoughts keeping in mind what you are saying as well. I look forward to more video on this machine as well as others you can bring to your property. Thank you for posting!

[@edamick7479]

Like your videos, I was waiting for Minnie Pearl to show up being you still have the tag on the steering wheel. Keep up the good work.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

We will be returning the machine to the dealer..so we will leave the tag on.

[@BeingMe23]

Minnie Pearl: I tell you what! I bought myself a Holly also!

[@4-LOW]

I just bought a new Workmaster 25. After looking at all the brands extensively, the New Holland is clearly built heavier, has better features, and is arguably higher quality than the 3-series Deere. It's night and day. The Deere of the same price is a very economical, low end tractor with aluminum case and weak lift capacities. The New Holland Workmaster series 25/35/40 is very robust and has higher ratings for 3 point, front axle, loader, etc. Plus it comes with mid PTO and rear remotes standard, cruise control, quick park loader, larger tires, and more. Night and Day difference from the green tractors. I actually started my search by shopping Deere thinking that's what I wanted. After looking at several brands, I was shocked at how weak the Deere spec sheet is!

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Sounds like you were focused on the 3e...My least favorite Deere machine. Anyway, congratulations! Hope you enjoy it.

[@4-LOW]

@@TractorTimewithTim Yes sir I was looking at the D and E series because price-wise those were comparable to everything else in the class. I found that to get the same build quality, lift capacity, specs, and features I could go to the R series tractors and then Deere has a very nice product. But, the R series comes at a hefty added cost! In the subcompact field I can't really comment, but among the compact field of tractors the New Holland is almost certainly the best value on the market. Thanks for the videos. Always enjoy them!

[@zeus3358]

Its made to be run at full rpm. 3000. And I dug out a Stump/root ball of 600lb. I grabbed it with the rear backhoe once I ripped the roots and lifted the stabilizers and the front came right off the ground about 2 feet and drove out off the whole. Its all about the operator from my experiences.

[@jamesfournier6114]

I have the Mahindra Emax 25 with Bucket & Backhoe I usually run and 2600 rpm when using backhoe and I have dug up some pretty big stumps with the machine. It takes time but I always get it done. I got a thumb with my unit when I bought it 5 years ago and never put the thumb on. Last week I was bored so I finally installed the Thumb and will try it out once the snow melts.

[@gregorywise4383]

Tim im glad to see you're willing to give any piece of a fair shake. Johnny probably would have done better with the familiarity with the equipment and appropriate bucket for the job with the ripper tooth. But overall Holly did an adequate job for the first time running her through her paces.

[@BigRooster616]

I dug out stumps two or three times as big as that with my Workmaster S as that one . I did have New Holland install a Thumb on my Backhoe when I bought my tractor new . Love my Blue Work Horse Little Tractor

[@MJF40]

My local dealer has about 5 or 6 of to these. Other brands have none currently. I even looked at these back when I was looking. Happy with my choice 😌

[@PurpleCollarLife]

Good explanation!

[@dpd16790]

I took out a couple stumps last week with my mini excavator. It took all it had. The little one was maybe a 24” pine tree and the other was easily over 30”. I wish I could post a pic on here.

[@TsunauticusIV]

When we will see the tug of war between the green and blue? Ill go grab a chain. Let’s go! Lol

[@jeromeboily]

I would be interested to see the same things but with the massey GC1723 or 1725 !!!! Even compare it to your JD !!

[@valleytractorservices9310]

Massey is somewhat regarded to have the best subcompact backhoe.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

I have used the Massey backhoe in an earlier video. Search 1725 on my channel.

[@oldnorthstateoutdoors2002]

I agree a GC 1725MLB would be a good matchup

[@thetractorden8890]

Glad I purchased a Kubota!!!

[@garydonais758]

I know it’s out of context for the channel but I’d really like to see some work and review considerations with the smaller track loaders. “70hp and less in my case” An example would be the Kubota SVL 65-2. Keep up the good work folks.

[@PaulNichollsPausabniTraders]

Hey Tim, you didn't lock the seat in when you swiveled it to use the back hoe that's why is slipped on you. Also these machines are designed to work at rated RPM when using attachments. We install mechanical thumbs on those units all the time. Good Video. Thanks for the content.

[@keithherr]

Cow jumped over the moon🤣😂 love you guys, Hello form NC

[@Katyhillfarmer]

I demo a lot of tractor before buying my Deere and hands down it had the best hydraulics stock

[@TractorTimewithTim]

So far, in my experience, I agree.

[@mikekeleman3951]

There is a lock on the seat to keep it from springing back like that ! I purchased the LSMT125. LS makes that for New Holland and they out there decals on it.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

This lock may no longer exist on this tractor. ....the seat mechanism is in BAD shape on this one.

[@mikekeleman3951]

@@TractorTimewithTim Lol, that seat swivel is hands down my least favorite thing on my 125. I have been doing some side jobs with mine as a by product of purchasing it for my own use. So far, side jobs have made a years payment and bought me a tiller ! Thanks for the videos and God Bless.

[@109jacosta]

Good morning. About 5 inches of snow so far in western pa and still coming down.

[@watkinstreefarm6880]

So do you feel Jonny would have dug it out any better? Holly got it done.

[@djcanfield1]

I don't know why, but I love watching videos of tractors digging out stumps! What is the disadvantage of running a tractor at higher RPM other than fuel consumption? KZbinrs seem to always want to run low RPM. I usually just end up running my 1025R at max RPM when doing real work-- am I hurting it?

[@augustreil]

Controls are not so jerky/fast and I don't think you're hurting anything.

[@sparkyplugclean2402]

That's probly a big part of why he's only got one control at a time.

[@paulkleinschmit9871]

And sometimes it's audio not just with filming either. Loud noise can get wearing and makes for unhappy neighbors. With a non-emission machine I'd run the throttle just high enough to get the job done as efficiently as possible. Maybe that's full throttle and maybe that's part throttle. Another Audio concern is if you are working with a spotter and you need to hear him/her.

[@johnhamilton9229]

Hey Tim, this is model I have. No mower deck. I just used mine to dig around a lob Lolly. Dig though roots well, just some time and patience. 5 feet down cut the tap root. Not many videos out with ol’ blue in it. Thanks.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Backhoe is the best part of this tractor!

[@DougAlesUSA]

Warning - off topic comment. I heard you mention propane around 1:58 into your video. Yesterday I purchased propane to have our 2 tanks filled, 1,000 gallons. We paid $1.499/gallon with no delivery / no inspection fees. This is up from paying $1.149/gallon last year. Everything I am reading tells me now is then time to buy. Buy all you can fit. Fortunately for us, we own the two tanks on our property so we are allowed to shop around. If you have propane tanks, fill now.

[@ku4nz]

thanks Tim

[@xenics]

Hi Tim, i think it’s called the Bucket break-out force.

[@s1283]

Exactly what I was thinking as well

[@matthewsims359]

Nice work. I like seeing the different tractors on your channel. I really think it helps the viewers who may be in the market for a sub compact

[@mr.soundtek5793]

I have the RK24 with the backhoe and mechanical thumb. It looks like the New Holland is struggling more than my RK34 does. It does have the single function "issue" and the curl does have the most power. Given the size of that stump, I believe your analysis of the bucket length is correct causing loss of curl power. The RK24 does have power to break through 3/4" roots without an issue. Hardwoods would be more difficult than softwoods. Comments from a fellow Hoosier.

[@erichillis3528]

I have the bxpanded on mine and it works just fine.

[@jamesstebbins8880]

I think most owners for these scuts are new to the world of loader and backhoe use. The long handles make it more controllable (smoother/safer) to those users when first starting and then it just becomes normal to them. The faster something moves the more you have to control the input. A lot of vehicles use speed sensitive steering to help with control. It would be interesting to see the cycle times of the functions on the backhoe and loader. An option would be to put shorter handles on it if that's what you're used to.

[@bobbyfink6121]

I like how it's low range is a low range.

[@ShaneZettelmier]

You might want to check the linkage on your forward and reverse pedals. When you pumped up the RPMs the wheels were turning on their own in the reverse direction.

[@lloydcrowder1283]

I am impressed. When I did with the Kubota I pull the tractor with the hoe. That's with the brakes locked, front bucket tipped and in four wheel drive

[@mikescott394]

I must have the best one that came off the production line because it will work circles around my buddies 1025R and my dads gc2400. It was 15,000 TLB from Brunos in Arkansas. 0 problems thus far luckily because I live a state away.

[@fredhetler7148]

I believe that there will be a Fort Wayne Farm Shoe & I will let you know when I get the date.

[@georgephillips1185]

Thank you for this information. Very interesting

[@Kcolby47]

I thought you were “rowing” for a second with the controls😉. Those nursery rhymes will mess with your mind....how did we survive? Mmmm..so, that’s why I talk to myself. Have fun with Holly. Blessings.

[@lynnpenman5899]

Hi Tim ,I've enjoyed and learned from watching you use your 1025r ,do to the finance committee I could only afford a max 24 mahindra and im very happy with it,I realize it's not American made ,but seems to be a good product, I would enjoy seeing you do some comparisons with it , thank you for sharing all of your hard work it has bin very helpful. Thanks Lynn

[@grassandgears]

Would love to see your review of the Kioti CS2520 to see how it compares to the 1025r. Good video! I'm enjoying your adventures into other "colors" 🙂

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Glad to hear. We’re working on it...but who knows if it will work out!

[@tinachambers4887]

Hi Tim an Christie thanks for the video glad you are well have a day love from TEXAS

[@noshsreqd]

These little backhoes are so slow when you're used to running an excavator. Though if you're not in a hurry it will still do a lot and save your back.

[@ZR1Terror]

I made a mistake of buying a Mahindra Emax 20, same clase as this one, for my plumbing company. I decided to trade it in for a Kubota mini excavator. Huge difference in breakout force. 2050lbs vs 5600lbs breakout force.

[@AdamSmith-uv6kr]

I’ve always loved the blue paint but they just don’t perform the same. Just as you mentioned the bucket being too long. I think the loader bucket has the same issue. They tend to put very long buckets on their equipment, even the larger series. I’m not sure if that’s a marketing thing or just design but it limits it at the end user

[@robertmcdonnold3038]

Hey Tim. Just a thought. Do you think the long handles had any effect on the smoothness of the operation? It would seem the long handles would have a better control over the hydraulics. To go to extremes, think of the control if the handles were only 2 or 3 inches long. Good demonstration Thanks Bob

[@Matt-kf4bw]

I had a New Holland Boomer 37. Bought brand new. Horrible! It constantly struggled with DPF issues. The backhoe never worked properly, consistently wanted to bleed off. And to make it worse, the dealer was worthless and refused to stand behind the product! I now have a GREEN tractor and wouldn’t buy anything else! Daylight and dark!!!!!!!

[@arthurr8670]

Dpf issues were common when they were first starting to be used, and still are. Part of it is operator error since it's required a change to how you operate the machine. Finding a good dealer is more important than the machine brand, unless you are you own service person.

[@williamcoffman7149]

ive watched how the backhoe function was on the 1025R, you had made me a believer in how they really work...ive checked out new holland (LS 123 same as this)and others and didnt find them any more capable then John Deere 1025R...

[@avs2978]

Great video. Also your audio is sounding very good. You made a sound investment and it is paying off!

[@2015_Rubicnn]

B Expanded makes a thumb for this 905GBL backhoe.

[@richc9890]

Buying a Massey 1835M w/Woods BH. You should really look at more of the newer Massey Tractors for review. Best lift capacity for the size I found on the loaders.

[@richc9890]

And if you are ever over in Southern/Central NY, You are more than welcome to check it out.

[@derekdreke4990]

I've always wanted to see a mega comparison video of all these little tractors and maybe throw in a few mini excavators as well. Be fun and also interesting 🤔 especially with a few different fellas

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Would be fun. Hard to accomplish. One aspect that makes it difficult…some of the differences between the brands are not in the tractor at all. Rather, they are about the strength and stability of the manufacturer.

[@joelemire1913]

Appreciate your input.

[@peterkober6758]

Tim Christi good review always like it when you look at other manufacturers God Bless All PaK

[@randywhelan8944]

I believe that main boom looks a bit longer than the one on the JD ,as well as the cylinder rams appear to be larger diameter , or is the video playing tricks on me , I do know that the pump is weak on some certain years of the new Holland machine's , I would have to go back to my books to check out the year though..

[@bill29456]

Years ago with small trees like that id hook up my 12,000 winch to it, on my 3/4 diesel suburban, and winch the tree clean out of the ground. Yes playing with a backhoe is fun and its probable cheaper than contracting it out, but it seems like a lengthy process. Be fun to see a stop watch run in the corner and see how long this actually took.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

10 min to get the stump out.

[@stephengass6067]

I bought me a bxpanded thumb for my bx I'm really impressed at the quality and it was 150 bucks cheaper fit right on.

[@raysutube]

I think the term you are looking for curl is breakout force maybe?

[@VideosByAl]

We have a New Holland 756c which is slightly bigger than yours. Have it on a CashIH D29 which has more PSI and GPM. Our control sticks are about half the length as the one you are running. I really like the curved boom of the New Holland.

[@glenbreaks5448]

For the size of the stump and tractor, I thought that went rather well. You did a good job on it, new to you machine, close to house, making commentary along the way. With all of that going on at once, pretty sure I would hit the house! It will be interesting to see how the machine pushes with that low range. Does it give a bit better fine control of the tractor movement when in tight quarters, or is the 1025 as good for this?

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Easy to control the movement of either machine. I was highly surprised at how slow the NH goes in low range.

[@Harry-zz2oh]

@@TractorTimewithTim It is much faster than my Case IH 24DXe (2008) subcompact tractor. I don't know why it is so slow but it is not fast in the high gear either. I have learned one thing about my tractor; do not overload the bucket. I overloaded the bucket with a tree stump and bent it. I don't know how to fix that problem, but I may sell it since I really don't use it much anymore.

[@scottnunya2441]

Just finished digging a 50ft trench at about a 4 ft depth in hard clay. No question it works better at higher RPMs. Faster and stronger. I'd compare the curl strength to a 1025r, but definitely has a lower lifting and "pull" capacity. Leverage is key on these and I think the long reach penalizes it. Did the job, so that's all that matters. Right now, trying to figure out if I can mount a winch to it for tree dragging.

[@mikegriffith8972]

I switched to a kubota L2501hst with a LA525 loader and BH77 hoe with thumb best machine I’ve ever used. Plenty of power it says 25 on paper but Dynos @ 33.6

[@kennolte5801]

A few things I saw right off was the throw length on the controls and the not as rigid mounting of the backhoe assembly. Seems to be more movement than I would have expected. The control levers really take a lot of movement to get action of the functions. Nice looking tractor but not on par with some of the others.

[@drewwilke1733]

The curl strength is referred as the breakout force

[@thomasyerbey337]

Great video Tim 🚜 I really enjoyed this video 🇺🇲💯

[@bradperkins3337]

I noticed when you were in the higher rpm the back tires were moving very little and slow at moments. Well the one in camera view. Made me think that maybe pressure was getting to transmission somehow. Maybe a seal issue? Just had me curious, great video. As always love y’all’s videos

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Likely a minor pedal adjustment issue. No worries.

[@bernardstinchcomb1739]

Tim, if you ran the Throttle up a bit it wont Struggle qith the pressure and I dont know if its a good Idea to leave it in Gear, i feel it qould take away from the Hydrolic pressure. Just my 2 cents worth. Love your Videos.

[@shadlundquist2329]

Good morning Tim and Kristy. The blue looks off on your channel.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Ha! Yep!

[@jimmcknight3021]

How would a stump puller compare between the stump grinder and backhoe on a subcompact or a small compact tractor?

[@jr88brutus]

Take Holley and Johnny, line them up side by side and see which one is faster. You could also create a little obstacle course. This would be quite entertaining.😂😂

[@dennisjohnson5754]

John deere faster. The loader runs faster @ idle than kubota @ wide open. Compared them side by side.

[@mcinkyt]

People always plant pyramid cedars to close to the house then wonder why they grow into the eves

[@idahofabricator8710]

Nice demo Tim I don’t have a backhoe on my tractor can you explain why you leave it in gear when you’re using the backhoe I don’t understand why

[@harmab2]

I like the blue color 💙

[@johnlear3634]

Sometimes if you cut the stump of the tree higher it is easier

[@kdegraa]

Cutting the stump higher will give you more leverage on it when digging it out.

[@bengentry7520]

Tim, I love your channel and you look good on blue. I own that NH Model and Ive operated both the Kubota and JD subcompact hoes. The New Holland is every bit as strong as the other two. I think it may be operator familiarity as it is for me when I jump on green. Tim, what do you think? Keep up the good work!

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Not sure yet. We’ll see if I can find a way to be totally objective about it!

[@tomnugent845]

Pry out force. Good vid.

[@bikenut5282]

So, for as far for dollar for the tractor, LS and New Holland is the way to go!

[@The1025RChannel]

I would be interested to see a lifting capacity comparison of the different backhoes, along with curl strength if that would be possible. It's not something you see being compared much in videos, just on spec sheets which don't always mean much. It does appear, going by the construction, that this is a big lighter hoe than the one on the 1025r. Looks can be deceiving though. Regardless it looks like a nice tractor, even if it is just a rebranded LS.

[@ElonMuskX]

Tim - How do I find a second bucket for my Mahindra backhoe? How do I know what my digging bucket pattern is or style for mounting the bucket?

[@TractorTimewithTim]

You’ll likely think my response is rude. I do not intend that. However, not stating this would be irresponsible of me. This is one of the primary reasons to buy one of the two major brands. You can easily find accessories which fit. I know of no one who makes buckets for a Mahindra backhoe. Can you find one to fit? Maybe. It is possible that the backhoe is made by same folks that make Deere or Kubota backhoes in which case you could find one. However, I don’t know that. So, now you are down to measuring your existing bucket, pins, etc, then searching based on size. This is a difficult task. Sorry.

[@ElonMuskX]

@@TractorTimewithTim Totally understand Tim. I wasn't sure if there were industry wide standards or not. My 12" bucket is great but sometimes a bit of a bull ........ I like the Hindi though and the 28 Max is pretty sweet just not fancy.

[@wyattbonnette3414]

I noticed a great deal of flexing happening at the base of the backhoe.

[@bradleymcclintock7771]

I'll add that it sure beets a shovel I don't care how long it takes !!!!!

[@justinsikes2221]

That seat should come with a safty manual

[@jaredricker6994]

Good thing you got long arms. Watching you move the sticks to run that thing is in like 1 foot intervals before the backhoe Moves 😂

[@darrenburch3326]

Thanks