How does memory work? A conversation with Rupert Sheldrake

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@rogerwprice Ай бұрын

I am so grateful to have access to these great talks by Rupert. Also recommended is his lecture on Anatheism and the After Skool vid on Beyond the Brain...

@SpiritualPsychotherapyServices Ай бұрын

Great and lowly are RELATIVE. 😉 Incidentally, Slave, are you VEGAN? 🌱

@ElizabethMohr Ай бұрын

I really appreciate this discussion. It may be the artful combination of ideas that is helping to distill novel insights for me in the midst of my ongoing research. Thank you kindly.

@pentagrammaton6793 Ай бұрын

To a materialist, matter is simply inert stuff that persists in a certain form until acted on by a greater force. But in a more enlighted sense, yes matter must remember not only to exist but also how to continue to exist, and forces are constantly at work in order to ensure this relative continuity. The reason for this is that all things are expressions of consciousness, mind is in all things and in all things it is expressed. Memory is inherent to creation.

@johnwoodhead5950 Ай бұрын

Thank you Mark and Rupert for a fascinating talk, maybe I am getting greedy but I would love to see someone like Stanislav Grof enter into this type of conversation

@enidsnarb Ай бұрын

I love Sheldrake! As a twenty year old I decided that memory was something going faster than the speed of light in blood . After a failed relationship and other things I came to the conclusion that emotions were the fastest aspect of this time traveling aspect of humans and other animals with blood!

@enidsnarb Ай бұрын

And 30 years ago I asked an aspiring physicist if there was something faster than the speed of light in blood could you measure it and he said no ! Aha I cried , so my theory is as valid as any !!!!

@enidsnarb Ай бұрын

Then I realized what mechanism that recorded everything was time itself !!!

@BenCallan Ай бұрын

fascinating discussion

@stevencook5501 Ай бұрын

With all due respect, we do not have memories. We are memories. Now, where are the boundaries of those memories?

@SkyScannerBtown Ай бұрын

Did Mark scratch off the face of someone in the picture sitting next to him on the shelf ( to his right ) our left . I found it it rather amusing as he was talking, my eyes would just go to the picture.

@stian.t Ай бұрын

Thumbs up from me 👍 By the way, I loved that book you're showcasing on your bookshelf there: A secret history of Christianity. :-)

@diycraftq8658 Ай бұрын

Genius we are blessed to have RS with us

@TheWorldTeacher Ай бұрын

I cannot believe that Rupert publicly-announced the fact that memories are NOT stored within the brain structure, because anyone with an intelligence quotient above double figures knows that all too well. EVERYONE knows that memories are stores in one's left big toe. Just kidding of course - it's the RIGHT big toe.

@AquariusGate 22 күн бұрын

I'm marking this to absorb later, thanks! Why start with a proposition of a functional memory? There is more evidence that we are designed to forget. Information obsolescence may be a thing we miss simply because modern life requires the religiousesque repetition of details. All emotional suffering is caused by holding on to things that damage health. Information has a stress value, accumulating vast strains of tension, friction, and pressures doesnt makena person smarter. Wisdom is knowing how to hold ideals in the least harmful way. Simplicity, elegance and other aesthetics draw in the least amount of information. The substance of information, significance, is a contiuous evaluation. Memory is a judgement call that overrides that process. 13:37 yes, this is it. If information is entangled in ways we do not consciously control, memory and remembering is a delusion of controlling what is stored and used.

@abbasalchemist Ай бұрын

You seem to be taking a distinctly "late" ancient concept of history by referring to Aristotle. Memory finds its expression much earlier with Mnemosyne and the Muses. Much more instructive I'd say. To remember is to exist and to know, to endure in the present. It is recurrent maintenance and continuity of consciousness. To remember is to establish what is. Memory as critical to metempsychosis is spot on.

@berrowboy Ай бұрын

I like your description and insightful structure.

@lisamoag6548 Ай бұрын

Motor memory endures. Riding a bike.

@mattbutler6742 Ай бұрын

What about ‘constructivism’ eg Vygotsky?

@holgerjrgensen2166 Ай бұрын

Rainbow picture our Eternal Over-Consciousness, Colors, the Under-Consciousness = Day-Consciousness and Night-Consciousness. Instinct, Gravity, Feeling, Intelligence, Intuition, memory. Red, Orange, Yellow, Green, Blue, Indigo. We are Gravity-Beings, about to become Feeling-Beings. At night We move our Day-Consciousness to our Night-Bodies, Deep-Sleep, one by one via our Coupling-Body, REM-sleep. Memory is our Highest Ability, it bring us from word to word, from day to day, from life to life, from Developing-Circuit to Developing-Circuit. The Ability to Forget, is also a part of Memory. Last Zone in the Developing-circuit, experiences is accumulated as Gold-Copies, as the Mind-Stuff got out-lived, it cristalizes into Mineral.

@theunseenstevemcqueen Ай бұрын

Animal memory is episodic. Humam memory is a quantum abstraction. We dont remember episodically like animals. Human memory is probabilistic. We build up our memory as necessary based on a starting point and working backwardards considering the most likely previous state.

@EbbandFlow1234 Ай бұрын

One thing for sure the memory will be there in a metaphorical representation. Time records memories. In the forefront of the mind. Do magnetics hold it in place? Whats the heart got to do with it? Can one organ store all the memories, over all the others ? How do pets take on our illnesses? All the senses can trigger memories. Music can trigger memories. Themes. Frequencies, The same old tunes like a stuck record,which depending on the theme tinkers with the heart strings. What a strange world we live in. I had a dream about a past life and I was told a name. When I looked it up I realised she had the same themes in her life as I have in mine. I believe memories are wave forms because like the tides they ebb and flow , come and go in the forefront of our minds, like a stream, streaming. Has it got sonething to do with the water in our brains and bodies? Imprints.? When the rain washes you clean You'll know. F.M 🌊🎶 Facinating, Thankyou to both.✌️ If we were to see reality in wave forms it woukd look like everything was made of water, wavering, watery , shimnering, waves.

@TheWorldTeacher Ай бұрын

@EbbandFlow1234 Ай бұрын

@TheWorldTeacher Memories are stored in every cell of our bodies, but I believe it affects different parts of the body more than others. If you read Bruce Liptons books you will see it's not daft at all and if you observe life and the illnesses people get who have the same themes as eachother you start to see patterns. Epigenetics? Nature has memory, guess what we are also a,part of nature we are organic beings, we are not seperate or superior to nature if anything we are inferior to it

@lisamoag6548 Ай бұрын

Colorful waves. Ripples and flows.

@medicalmisinformation Ай бұрын

"For we are to God the fragrance of Christ among those who are being saved and among those who are perishing. To the one we are the aroma of death leading to death, and to the other the aroma of life leading to life." - 2 Corinthians

@EbbandFlow1234 Ай бұрын

Two opposite extremes of the same POLE, Polar, left brain,right brain cos it's all in the mind.

@binra3788 Ай бұрын

God can only be recognised Now. Mythic frameworks posit Cause and Creation to a 'Past' or Backstory as a theme of begotten identity. The War in Heaven represents Separation trauma that can be represented as 'species trauma' - a split & shattered mind perceives a fragmented and conflicted 'world' of reflected 'meanings' that effectively mask, filter and deny the Son of God as the Created Extension of God - through which 'All That Is' knows itself in Peace as Obne or in pieces as 'cast out projections'. The mind can thus become a lens and focus of a selective awareness - the mind of judgement is judged or limited to 'bodies' no longer recognised as the tangibility and visibility of God's Son - but as self-made meaning derived from 'archetypal' fallacies of a mis-taken inheritance. Thoughts are Creation in the Mind of God but thinking in the mind of Man is the measure of all things as the extension of persisting judgements; remembering not to laugh at impossible contradictions allows folly and fallacy to operate as foundation for an unconscious 'diction' or given word by which we suffer our own deprivation and denial as at the hand of Others - including an 'othering' of life and the Creator of Life by which a mind seems to self-exist a body and world framed 'matter' as a weapon and a prison to a mind set over and apart from Creation. Every loving thought is true and can thus be 'remembered' in the Heart of God as the Eternal Nature of truth. Mind 'goes forth to multiply each kind according to its nature. The nature of love is giving and receiving as one, the nature of the mind of man is giving to get or take in vain. Yet the perishing is of self-illusions, not of loss in God. There can be no loss or pain fear or conflict in the ever Extending Love of Creation In God. The 'creations' of Man are projections of desire rising from the movement of the light over the waters - a persistence of a-tempt to possess the object of our affection becomes an object of affliction. An object to awareness is a beholding, in which we have learned the trick of dissociating to 'see' in differing lights set in contrast or contradistinction to each other - as IF to gain a function of 'knowledge' as a mask and weapon, and thus a commodity, resource to possess and control. The trick of masking in the death of God is be-living the framework of lack driven tyranny as an unfolding of personal experience of forgetting and remembering, under 'choices' rendered invisible by the act of conditioned repetitions. But behold "I make All Things New!" signifies the Eternal Now.

@lisamoag6548 Ай бұрын

Thank you

@MuratGonullu-l3x Ай бұрын

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@CarolPrice4p Ай бұрын

A mind palace with cupboards...?

@lisamoag6548 Ай бұрын

A library with a card catalog. Or file cabinets. Also photo albums. Yup.

@4asovoi Ай бұрын

Where is the "collective memory of nature" stored?

@TheWorldTeacher Ай бұрын

“Subtle mind impressions” are known in psychology as the “collective unconscious”, in New Age spirituality as the “akashic records”, in Islam as the “Preserved Tablet”, and in contemporary biological science as “morphic resonance” (as postulated by Professor Dr. Alfred Rupert Sheldrake - see the Glossary). There is an abundance of evidence that humans are born with certain psycho-emotive links to previous persons, times and places. It is far beyond the purview of this document to list such evidences. As mentioned, in my case, I have an EXTREMELY strong association with all things Indian, despite not being of Indian origin, and in my view, the Jungian “collective unconscious” theory seems to be the best explanation for this bond currently available (although, the term “collective conscious” would, perhaps, be a more accurate phrase). For the common view of reincarnation to be plausible, there would need to be an entity, or an OBJECT, called a “soul” (“jīva” or “ātman”, in Sanskrit), which somehow finds a copulating couple, then enters the woman’s uterus, to inhabit a zygote. Assuming the existence of a discrete, individual soul/spirit is profoundly contradictory, because spirit is (by most definitions) the antithesis of finite matter. Therefore, how can an immaterial “soul” be confined to a single person’s body? If this was the case, this spirit/soul would not be (a) spirit but a finite, material object, even if it was intangible (see Chapter 05). Of course, those who believe in reincarnation, rarely discuss the topic in relation to non-human beings. Do animals have souls? What about plants? When a microbe perishes, does its soul magically float away and enter the cell of another single-celled organism, or does it progress to a higher-order living creature, as is supposed by the adherents of most of the metaphysical traditions of Bhārata (India)? Enlightened sages have realized that there is but one, all-pervasive universal SUBJECT, as explained in Chapter 06.