How does Plastic Glue work? What's in the bottle and what does it do?

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Goobertown Hobbies

Goobertown Hobbies

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The science of plastic glue / plastic cement.
A conversation about what plastic glue actually is, combined with some fun hobby experiments.
Do you actually need to buy expensive plastic glue to put your models together???
These questions are addressed:
What is plastic glue?
How to make plastic glue?
Which plastic glue is best?
Is plastic glue safe?
How does plastic cement work?
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@gager73
@gager73 2 жыл бұрын
HOLY CRIMANY!!! I just paid $5 for a 1oz bottle of Testors Liquid Cement when I could have bought 32 oz of Methyl Ethyl Ketone for $12! This is amazing. Thank you!
@HutchJ81
@HutchJ81 5 жыл бұрын
As a high school chemistry teacher, and a giant nerd, I love your videos! Watched them all in one sitting!
@GoobertownHobbies
@GoobertownHobbies 5 жыл бұрын
Oh hey I missed this comment earlier - thanks for watching! I'm a chemist myself and I'm trying to make a whole series of hobby science videos, but I keep getting distracted with painting models :-)
@ScottHz
@ScottHz Жыл бұрын
I work for CAS - glad to see chemists on KZbin! 😉
@zg1537
@zg1537 5 жыл бұрын
Brent WHY does it feel so much like i'm watching PBS. all your videos are so good.
@GoobertownHobbies
@GoobertownHobbies 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Zane! Gotta get you that PBS learnin.
@Heffling1
@Heffling1 4 жыл бұрын
I think the Tamiya Extra Thin Cement uses Acetone for several reasons: 1) The Acetone mixes well with the n-Butyl Acetate (like in like); 2) Acetone has a lower viscosity (at 25C, roughly 0.3 vs 0.7 cp), so improves flow. This is the "thin" moniker. 3) Acetone has a lower boiling point (132.8°f vs 258.8°f), so will more readily vaporize, giving a quicker dry time. Any plastic debonding by the acetone is tertiary to the other property improvements it gives. Great overview!
@zottnjoe
@zottnjoe 5 жыл бұрын
I love all the outros with the cats!
@GoobertownHobbies
@GoobertownHobbies 5 жыл бұрын
Hahaha I'm glad someone appreciates the cats :-) I take a lot of footage for these videos, and there's normally some cats left over. Stick a cat clip at the end and call it good. In this video Snuffles actually helped out by stress-testing the joint strength.
@diaz5292
@diaz5292 5 жыл бұрын
@@GoobertownHobbies ya, love cats!! Thanks for I including them!!
@MagnusMoerkoereJohannesen
@MagnusMoerkoereJohannesen 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Brent. Have you ever considered doing a video like this, but for the various mediums that we use? Just in acrylics alone there's a bunch of stuff, and it's hard to know what's just branding, and what has an actual different effect on the pigment when it's being applied to the mini. I, for one, would love to see a scientific break-down of that particular patch of briars :)
@JohnDlugosz
@JohnDlugosz Жыл бұрын
When I was making such models, the only glue to use with them came in a tube and was clearly some kind of gelled solvent. It was famous for its fumes. When I bought a model for my nephew and his dad, some years ago now, the glue was in a locked case and I had to get a store manager to unlock it. I've never seen a brush-on from a bottle, or anything remotely "thin" like some of the bottles are labeled. This kind of glue must have come on the scene recently.
@fxm5715
@fxm5715 Жыл бұрын
In college we were told to use xylene or MEK for styrene prototype model building, and use whichever one we liked best. The rationale for doing this is reliably consistent results and they are widely available solvents. Once you get a good feel for which one you like, you know exactly how it behaves. As you've explained, different brands use different recipes, so behavior between different products intended for the same purpose can be significantly different. A gallon of either solvent costs $50-$60, and if stored properly, will last the average model builder for decades.
@GoobertownHobbies
@GoobertownHobbies Жыл бұрын
that's some good advice- what kind of school did you go to for that? model school?
@fxm5715
@fxm5715 Жыл бұрын
@@GoobertownHobbies Industrial design and engineering. It was back in the 80s, when we still built physical models early in the design process. Lots of sheet styrene, vac forming, mold making, etc. along with hand fabrication in steel, glass, rubber, etc. starting with conceptual models all the way to fully functional prototypes. Styrene is actually a really handy material for short run mold making. In addition to the models themselves, it works well for building green sand molds as well as burn-out investment casting of parts in aluminum, bronze, or resin.
@GoobertownHobbies
@GoobertownHobbies Жыл бұрын
@@fxm5715 very cool!!
@suprememasteroftheuniverse
@suprememasteroftheuniverse 2 ай бұрын
Sadly the cancer won't last that long.
@infernalstan886
@infernalstan886 3 жыл бұрын
I work in a big box home store and your videos really help me understand products so I can give good recommendations to customers. Thank you 😁
@thecheesewheel4388
@thecheesewheel4388 4 жыл бұрын
i just found your channel recently, you are so chill and awesome and i have just started my new set of 7 plague marines for warhammer, my first time building any type of mini like this and you're videos are super helpful, i just wanted to write this comment to give a sincere thank you and tell you keep doing good work. The few that i've built today, i just can't describe the feeling of satifaction i get, it's amazing! thank you!
@tylermathis8590
@tylermathis8590 Ай бұрын
great info and answered a lot of questions i had as a beginner model hobbyist. Thank you!
@SpaseGoast
@SpaseGoast Жыл бұрын
I learned something today. I have a bun of Gunpla runners laying around, and I have a gallon of solvents. I'm going to make my own plastic cement for modeling. Thanks for this video.
@Top-Jimmy
@Top-Jimmy 11 күн бұрын
How did it turn out mate? Im making some today from Xylene and trying ABS
@CortxVortx
@CortxVortx Жыл бұрын
A chemistry lab is a great place to shop. Not only scintillation vials, but Parafilm, transfer pipettes, small plastic cups, needles (great for scale gun barrels), gas chromatography capillaries (great for whip antennae), and all sorts of other pieces and packaging to serve as greeblies. I grew up with Testors gel cement and have gotten pretty handy with it; the stringiness is the main gripe. I use Tamiay brush cement a lot, now. Problem is, my Stash Acquired Beyond Life Expectancy (SABLE) index is now 26, meaning I need to live 26 years beyond my life expectancy of 90 in order to finish all the models I have in my stash. Challenge accepted!
@danielklinglesmithv2732
@danielklinglesmithv2732 5 жыл бұрын
the content you are making is in depth and insightful. super glad i found your channel
@kosachilles2504
@kosachilles2504 4 жыл бұрын
Man you have a guide for all of my needs in this hobby. Thanks heaps!
@mjpete27
@mjpete27 3 жыл бұрын
SO well put together! Thanks for the easy explanation. I am often amazed at other Artists videos and their teaching techniques, I have taught a few classes in my time and there is a definite knack to doing it well! I am sure one of the reasons your videos are so highly rated is your method and attitude, your melodious voice does not hurt you either! I will let the playlist continue!
@7LegSpiders
@7LegSpiders 2 ай бұрын
Thank you! Acetone plus the sprue from a model kit will create a color matched glue. I love learning stuff.
@skarsc991
@skarsc991 5 жыл бұрын
Keep those vids coming pal, they are very informative and very few ppl in the miniature world bother explaining this kinda stuff. Thank you!
@GoobertownHobbies
@GoobertownHobbies 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Charles!! I figure that more people will watch the fun painting videos, but somebody needs to be making educational content like this :-) I have an episode about cyanoacrylate glues ~80% done that I need to draw up some chemical reaction mechanisms for to finish off. Hopefully I get around to posting that one soon.
@jean-louispayan6858
@jean-louispayan6858 5 жыл бұрын
Great ! Not only opinions but facts. Thanks
@GoobertownHobbies
@GoobertownHobbies 5 жыл бұрын
Right on! I'm going to keep going with the hobby science series. It won't get as many views as the videos with bright colors, but I hope it will be a good resource.
@romansthirteen-four8626
@romansthirteen-four8626 Жыл бұрын
I’m an avid modeler & I learned much from your video - and now how to save cash!! I can but a large jug of solvent for a reasonable price or blow way more per mL on a aesthetically pleasing square bottle with a green lid and tiny paint brush!! Thank you !! Although I do like the tiny brush too!
@kayakbrent
@kayakbrent 4 жыл бұрын
I have been waiting for this for years. You can not find videos on glues. I can't thank you enough!
@het_gele_teken
@het_gele_teken Жыл бұрын
insightful stuff that kept me glued to the screen.
@harriehausenman8623
@harriehausenman8623 Жыл бұрын
😆
@squidgysailor
@squidgysailor Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this bit of perfection and kindness
@chrispatty8953
@chrispatty8953 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks again. Re-baseing some minis and wanted to make sure I get a strong bond. This helped me choose what to use.
@mrdisco102
@mrdisco102 8 ай бұрын
Very helpful, thank you!
@alexquigley87
@alexquigley87 3 жыл бұрын
This video was very helpful to my understanding, thank you very much!
@nathanielholl9086
@nathanielholl9086 2 жыл бұрын
This content is so great, the explanations have me getting more and more into chemistry by the video. Great work.
@GoobertownHobbies
@GoobertownHobbies 2 жыл бұрын
Nice!!! I'm glad you're liking the science :-)
@tsar164
@tsar164 5 жыл бұрын
Fantastic channel, great work!!! It sounds like you have a PhD in chemistry, and more videos of this nature are needed.
@GoobertownHobbies
@GoobertownHobbies 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Andrey! I've got several more Hobby Science videos under construction.
@adrianrcarr
@adrianrcarr 4 жыл бұрын
Great video Brent. Would love to see more "Hobby Science" content.
@chriscooper2217
@chriscooper2217 3 жыл бұрын
Bit late to the party, but I loved this! I'm a biochemist myself and great to see some science in the hobby!
@DreamItCraftIt
@DreamItCraftIt 3 жыл бұрын
Best video I've seen all month
@bobongler
@bobongler 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe a video on the science of how miniature paint works? Great content! Keep up the good work :)
@GoobertownHobbies
@GoobertownHobbies 5 жыл бұрын
Absolutely! Acrylic miniature paint is high on my list. I'll make that video once I feel like I really understand the topic well and can make a video that's worthwhile.
@DevSodagar
@DevSodagar 2 жыл бұрын
Would love to see a video on the various plastics used to make models pvc Vs polystyrene Vs reaper bones Vs their new bones black. How various casting methods impacts them. Also resin and the cure process for forge world etc.
@dj1jesus375
@dj1jesus375 3 жыл бұрын
Epic video, deserves alot more views! Thanks Brent!
@Agamemnon2
@Agamemnon2 4 жыл бұрын
A great video, thank you. The experiments were fascinating and helpful.
@GoobertownHobbies
@GoobertownHobbies 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it! I love a good timelapse :-)
@kevsm2406
@kevsm2406 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent content, learned some very useful tips!
@psycholocke4090
@psycholocke4090 Жыл бұрын
That was really good. Thank you very much. You've earn my subscription.
@dgriff86
@dgriff86 5 жыл бұрын
Your videos are great. Thanks again!
@GoobertownHobbies
@GoobertownHobbies 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I'm so glad that you like them!
@NottsBobUK
@NottsBobUK Жыл бұрын
Well that was fascinating. Thank You.
@assembly_language3948
@assembly_language3948 5 жыл бұрын
Nicely done man. There are not a lot of videos out there talking glues for the Miniatures side of the hobby. Glad to see one covering all the bases. I've been using liquids for a good 18 years, mostly Tenax-7R, Ambroid Pro-weld, and Tamiya Extra Thin. I recently discovered Plastic Magic from Deluxe Materials. I highly recommend it.
@GoobertownHobbies
@GoobertownHobbies 5 жыл бұрын
I'm glad it was useful! Thanks for this list, I'll check them out. I've got a superglue chemistry episode coming out sometime in the next month or two, stay tuned :-)
@assembly_language3948
@assembly_language3948 5 жыл бұрын
@@GoobertownHobbies that is a good idea as well, looking forward to it. I personally only use superglues now mostly for attaching basing materials. I pretty much only deal in plastics, so plastic magic is all I need. Which reminds me, the thick goop you made with the sprue is commonly called "sprue goo" in the modeling community. Its brushed on to seams and gaps as a filler instead of using putty. The sprue goo is less messy and can be cleaned, worked, filed and sanded just like the plastic of the model. Most just use the dregs of their Tamiya Extra Thin to make it, but I'd never thought to use the stuff from the hardware store instead, probably a lot cheaper than a bottle of Tamiya Extra Thin in the long run.
@GoobertownHobbies
@GoobertownHobbies 5 жыл бұрын
@@assembly_language3948 Oh nice! I'm always looking for better filling techniques :-) I'll have to put this sprue goo to good use! What do you use to apply the sprue glue? toothpick? old paintbrush? I played around a little and I wasn't having very fine control with it.
@assembly_language3948
@assembly_language3948 5 жыл бұрын
@@GoobertownHobbies Most just use the brush that comes in the Tamiya Extra Thin. I use an old (18 years now) natural hair brush, though once this bottle of Plastic Magic is empty, I plan to use that brush as I find it better than even the Tamiya IMHO
@wonderwend1
@wonderwend1 5 жыл бұрын
Superb video!
@DustVixen
@DustVixen 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing, thank you!
@ShinobiDiabolik
@ShinobiDiabolik Жыл бұрын
Great videos, thanks for your time and effort. well earned likes and subscriptions!
@BryceGoodson
@BryceGoodson 5 жыл бұрын
This was very informative, and helpful. I had heard that plastic glue bonds plastic pieces together, but never with much detail on how or why. I recently bought that Tamiya glue featured in this video for the brush applicator after years of using generic plastic glue with whatever local tabletop store's name printed on the label. I haven't had a chance to use Tamiya's glue yet, but I'm glad to know that it will glue in a similar fashion with what seems like a much preferable storage bottle and applicator. Those generic plastic glue bottles all suffered the same fate of slowly drying in the nozzle creating frustrating clogs, or even worse gunking up the cap so that they did not seal tightly and drying up what's left of the bottle's contents. Now I can glue with more confidence in the results. Just well ventilate your work space, and all should be well enough to not worry much.
@GoobertownHobbies
@GoobertownHobbies 5 жыл бұрын
I'm glad the video was useful! It's always fun to figure out if there are any real differences between the brands other than packaging. In the case of Tamiya glue, I think the packaging is worth it- hopefully you enjoy using that brush also :-)
@SuperDuperHappyTime
@SuperDuperHappyTime 5 жыл бұрын
You got me looking into Hildebrand Solubility Parameter, which has helped me to explain a phenomena at my job (why a solvent works better at dissolving a wax compared to others). One caution is that some paint thinners contain some of the solvents that are good at dissolving polystyrene (like Xylene). Otherwise, this was a really good video and I enjoyed it.
@GoobertownHobbies
@GoobertownHobbies 5 жыл бұрын
That's a very good point, not all paint thinners are created equal. I certainly don't want to accidentally encourage someone to melt their army! I'll have to look up the Hildebrand solubility parameter myself, thanks for mentioning it. Part of the reason I make these videos is to learn new things, and these are the kind of comments that help me learn! One of my next videos will be on cyanoacrylate polymerization (superglue). I welcome your critique of that as well :-)
@thierrydevries
@thierrydevries 4 жыл бұрын
cant ask for more, thank you!
@TheMonyarm
@TheMonyarm 5 жыл бұрын
I use regular Tamiya Brush Plastic Glue as well as Revel Needle Plastic Glue.
@GoobertownHobbies
@GoobertownHobbies 5 жыл бұрын
Solid. For me it's all about finding an applicator that you like :-)
@johnkelley9877
@johnkelley9877 5 жыл бұрын
Great information! I knew that most glues were MEK based but I was unaware of the other chemicals such as Toluene. Lots of good science and I am looking forward to more science based tutorials like this. Thanks for sharing this information. The cat really liked the runner figures.
@GoobertownHobbies
@GoobertownHobbies 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I'm working on a super glue science episode next.
@Isolated.Outpost
@Isolated.Outpost Жыл бұрын
I wanted to share - if anyone ends up gluing something wrong or upside down and you notice later - try prying it open a bit with a knife or whatever and then pour on some white spirit - the stuff you've got for oil washes - it somehow infiltrates the weld from the glue and makes it MUCH easier and cleaner to undo the cement.
@deadgamer1918
@deadgamer1918 5 жыл бұрын
You sir...… Are RAD! Happy New Year and I'm glad I stumbled across your channel. Thanks!
@GoobertownHobbies
@GoobertownHobbies 5 жыл бұрын
Happy New Year!
@cosmolewandowski7860
@cosmolewandowski7860 Жыл бұрын
Great job.
@StevenKiefer-dx3xu
@StevenKiefer-dx3xu Жыл бұрын
Great video my guy. Very informative. Love the inclusion of your cat. Definitely a nice touch. Keep up the good work!
@micahgorham2641
@micahgorham2641 5 жыл бұрын
Wow that was crazy to watch. This was interesting I never even thought of running this experiment I love this series idea and I'm eager for more!
@GoobertownHobbies
@GoobertownHobbies 5 жыл бұрын
This may end up being my favorite series on the channel. I'm a chemist and there really is not excuse for me to be ignorant about all these bottles on my hobby desk :-) A a superglue episode is next in this series.
@micahgorham2641
@micahgorham2641 5 жыл бұрын
@@GoobertownHobbies excellent I will stay tuned! I could tell you obviously sound like you've had some serious training.
@Pyrografpl
@Pyrografpl 3 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@dakkawaaagh13
@dakkawaaagh13 5 жыл бұрын
awesome video more hobby science please!!
@GoobertownHobbies
@GoobertownHobbies 5 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you like it! More of these are in the works, I just keep getting distracted with other video ideas :-) Cyanoacrylate glue is next.
@brandongiles6875
@brandongiles6875 2 жыл бұрын
Just finished watching Jon's video from a few days ago and was reading through the comments, saw a back and forth about plastic cement and thought "You know, I think Brent ought to do a video on plastic glue." Gave it a quick search and of course you already have. :)
@decoyelephant866
@decoyelephant866 5 жыл бұрын
Wow, this is great!!!
@GoobertownHobbies
@GoobertownHobbies 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I hope it was useful :-)
@therealDonMac
@therealDonMac 4 жыл бұрын
This video probably saved a lot of my minis. I bought some Plaid Liquid Leaf because I wanted to see what it looked like on metallic parts. I've only used it on my PLA 3d printed minis at this point. Thank goodness I haven't used it on others yet. It's mostly xylene and should probably be spot tested before I go crazy with it. I would have never given it a second thought before this video. My minis and me thank you greatly!
@GoobertownHobbies
@GoobertownHobbies 4 жыл бұрын
Cool beans! We'll make some other mistakes, but it's nice to sidestep a few. Have fun! :-)
@od1452
@od1452 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks..Brent. Maybe you could suggest what are the best glues to use for clear plastic to prevent fogging. .. Like on aircraft canopies or windshields on car models. ?
@SammyGArt
@SammyGArt 3 жыл бұрын
Very helpful
@assan7705
@assan7705 2 жыл бұрын
great video!
@lucentv
@lucentv 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. This was eye-opening. I thought Acetone was the be all end all plastic melter.
@amdnable
@amdnable 5 жыл бұрын
super interesting!
@GoobertownHobbies
@GoobertownHobbies 5 жыл бұрын
right? :-)
@KrippledKracka
@KrippledKracka 2 жыл бұрын
My apologies for posting on an old video of yours. But I discovered you by accident and am now looking to get into the miniature hobby. Great work Brent and you are now my favorite KZbinr. My question is whether these glues also work on Resin models?
@Lilliathi
@Lilliathi Жыл бұрын
Late reply, but in case anyone reads this, no they don't work on resin.
@sjefkepoulussen2264
@sjefkepoulussen2264 5 жыл бұрын
Very informative video! Could you use the products from the hardware store to create a product like a gap-filler when mixed with polystyrene? Would be very nice to fill in polystyrene gaps with a polystyrene gel or something.
@barrysmith6163
@barrysmith6163 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, Brent. I really, really appreciate your "hobby science" videos and have an idea for another topic. Resin models drive most of us crazy because they're so fiddly, but we have to work with them on occasion. While assembling my last resin model, I cracked one of the pieces and would love to know the best way to repair it non-mechanically. Is there a solvent that works on resin to fuse it like organic solvents do for polystyrene? If not, which adhesive is most effective?
@silencia08
@silencia08 5 жыл бұрын
And Knowing Is Half the Battle.
@luishenrique3551
@luishenrique3551 6 ай бұрын
Very nice video Brent. Thank you very much. I am trying to glue styrene with styrene, bending it around 90 degrees. Using MEK the aggressiveness is so big that it breaks/tear the piece. Do you know how to drop the aggressiveness of the MEK to not tear the styrene so easily?
@TheStonehammerFiles
@TheStonehammerFiles 5 ай бұрын
Thank you, Brent! I knew acetone worked and MEK worked but I didn't know the substitute worked! I wish I saw this before I got the acetone. oh well, it works but now I know better.
@surreyelectrical6192
@surreyelectrical6192 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant videos thank you. I'm starting to build a furnace boiler to generate super heated steam. there are lots of youtube videos about the best heat resistant materials but most if not all are just re-vids on what somebody else who doesn't know what they are doing, I am thinking of using fine plastering sand as the insulator with porcelain tiles facing the furnace itself. would superglue with powdered graphite stand up to extreme heat? thanks again john
@soapmode
@soapmode 4 жыл бұрын
So can you melt sprues and cast more minis with the gel?
@drag0n4122
@drag0n4122 3 жыл бұрын
Dude I asked myself how can I melt some minis or Spurs.. your video is da bomb on that note thanks for like taking all the effort out of the equation!!!🤣 Your awesome and the video is presented extreamly well without the use of bells and whistles!🤔
@ALitoBitofJapan
@ALitoBitofJapan Жыл бұрын
Loving these science videos. Did you change the way you speak since making this video? I feel like the tone has become more relaxing and soothing. Or perhaps it was a different mic setup than what you currently have?
@GoobertownHobbies
@GoobertownHobbies Жыл бұрын
oh yeah, this was one of the very first videos I made, I got a new mic shortly after this, and things have evolved a bit :-)
@ALitoBitofJapan
@ALitoBitofJapan Жыл бұрын
@@GoobertownHobbies Ok got it. Well, it's great to see your evolution. I really enjoy your videos and am inspired. I just got into the painting aspect of Warhammer miniatures, but I love building terrain as well.
@gabrielebiffi9018
@gabrielebiffi9018 5 жыл бұрын
Very interesting! I wonder if your polistyrene gel can be used for casting...
@GoobertownHobbies
@GoobertownHobbies 5 жыл бұрын
I want to try this also :-) From that little pour I did in the video there were definitely some air bubbles in the solid plastic, but it felt pretty much as durable as brand new models. Also we need to figure out what to use as a mold... Let me know if you give this a try!
@MaZEEZaM
@MaZEEZaM 4 жыл бұрын
@@GoobertownHobbies Yep, it would be a very interesting experiment, you could perhaps use a basic plaster mould as thats an easy air set plaster, possibly not that easy to cut into without distroying it though. You can buy plaster material in a roll form, the type they use to set broken bones, the material could perhaps hold the mould together much better. Also regarding the bubbles, agitation could perhaps loosen those or not sure if it would work the same but if you use a kitchen torch or plumbers torch you can remove the bubbles from resin by heating it, it also gives it a much clearer nicer finish. I was originally going to suggest polymer clay as thats a very easy one to get a hold of but the polymer aspect quite possibly would melt with the contact with the solvent but perhaps not once it was baked and lined with an oil, like cooking oil perhaps to reduce sticking?
@paintnamer6403
@paintnamer6403 3 жыл бұрын
50 years ago I remember using NOTOX model glue and it was too slow and too weak. I believe that used D-Limonene.
@filanfyretracker
@filanfyretracker Жыл бұрын
I am not surprised the Acetone did not totally dissolve the stick. In 3D printing one of the methods for smoothing ABS models is Acetone(well usually Acetone vapors), Fun note the vapors can also defog some headlamps when the plastic gets worn on an older car. important note, ventilation when doing this. and probably respirator. but absolutely good ventilation or doing it outside, the vapors are not good for you and well flammable. Also makes me wonder if ABS glue from the plumbing section could work on models.
@olivierrichard2612
@olivierrichard2612 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Brent! I think I discovered your channel too recenlty and never had the opportunity to see your hobby science videos until very recently! Fantastic work! Thanks for putting together explanations that are understandable for regular people. When I saw your videos, it gave me the idea to make myself some sprue goo to fill the uuuuugly assembly gaps on push-fit minis like the death priest from Cursed City. I think I got this idea from Ninjon's channel. As I dont have many pricy glue bottles to sacrifice, I tried to do it by mixing Warhammer sprue leftovers with chemicals from my local hardware store. I have found acetate butyl and acetone. I tried both (and a 50/50 mix of acetate butyl and acetone) but the result is pretty disappointing, as the resulting mixture seems to have 2 phases, non miscible. Melted sprues make a very thick, barely liquid, dough at the bottom of the jar and solvent seems to float above. It is so thick that it is totally unusable. Am I doing something incorrect? The result is the same whatever the quantity of sprues I add in the jar. Any help from a Chemistry PhD would be appreciated :)
@GoobertownHobbies
@GoobertownHobbies 2 жыл бұрын
Heyo! It might just be the solvents you chose to use. Acetone doesn't work as well as some of the other solvents I used in this video. I know that the thick plastic cement from companies like testors smells a LOT like xylenes/ toluene. MEK and "MEK substitute" also seemed to work well
@olivierrichard2612
@olivierrichard2612 2 жыл бұрын
@@GoobertownHobbies thanks for your answer! I’ll make further experiments and let you know the outcome ! I’ve tried a thorough stirring it n the acetate butyl jar, and it seems to improve the result.
@silverfischdotnet
@silverfischdotnet 5 жыл бұрын
Now I'm wondering if I can dump some leftover sprues into solvent, then pour the resulting gel into a mold... and make new parts?
@GoobertownHobbies
@GoobertownHobbies 5 жыл бұрын
Do it! after that "sprue goo" dried the plastic was exactly like the plastic it started as. I'm sure there are challenges with making a mold that won't dissolve, getting the finished piece to release from the mold, and little bubbles in the plastic from evaporation... but it's definitely worth trying! Let us know if you come up with anything good :-)
@TotemoGaijin
@TotemoGaijin 4 жыл бұрын
That, or you could recycle all the sprues into a sheet instead of buying the ones in stores. Fascinating stuff.
@kirilbisikalo1446
@kirilbisikalo1446 4 жыл бұрын
Will Fischer main problem here would be evaporation, because a mold is a closed space which makes it hard for the solvent to get out. If you have a vacuum chamber, though, and pull the vacuum slowly to avoid splashing this just might work
@muf
@muf 4 жыл бұрын
It may shrink.
@topologiesskaijuu1259
@topologiesskaijuu1259 3 жыл бұрын
m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=3093920597303159&id=100000557486016 He said he use Polyurethane thinner to melt the sprue wait for 1 day, degas it everyday for a month and use it. Ethyl Acetate are also used as polyurethane thinner.
@PetervanderKruys
@PetervanderKruys Жыл бұрын
The cat is awesome
@doc0core
@doc0core Жыл бұрын
When my Tamiya glue gets too thick I pour in some acetone to thin it out, so it turns out not the best solvent for polystyrene .... huh... I'm gonna try to get a bottle of MEK or xylene for future. Thank you so much, you have answered a 40 year old question for me LOLZ.
@Bvanbeek59
@Bvanbeek59 3 жыл бұрын
i want to glue hard plastic that is waterproof what would you use?
@AJDeLaRosa
@AJDeLaRosa 5 жыл бұрын
The Mr. Wizard/Bill Nye of minis!
@GoobertownHobbies
@GoobertownHobbies 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah buddy!
@djvycious
@djvycious Жыл бұрын
Brent great video! I've been watching all of yours lately! Can you theoretically make your own cement by just taking MEK and adding some clear acrylic sprue to thicken it up? Seems like a great way to make use of my old Testors jar!
@GoobertownHobbies
@GoobertownHobbies Жыл бұрын
absolutely! xylenes if you want it to smell more like testors cement :-)
@djvycious
@djvycious Жыл бұрын
@@GoobertownHobbies I do love that 'I'm getting brain damage" smell!
@MaZEEZaM
@MaZEEZaM 4 жыл бұрын
More of these science based video's please, I really didn't expect to learn something so interesting when I clicked on this video. SO, if I got this right, Please correct me if I am wrong but I could simply buy Mentholated Spirits or Acetate as an effective glue and refill my useful tamiya applicator included bottles?
@zedzefis
@zedzefis Жыл бұрын
is N-Butyl Acetate too thin to use with a fine tipped applicator? and if so what can i mix it with to be able to use it in a fine tip applicator?
@muf
@muf 4 жыл бұрын
Are you gonna do one about acrylic paint thinners?
@michellew3561
@michellew3561 3 жыл бұрын
Would the solvents eat the brush in the nail polish bottles if stored there over time?
@weaselwolf
@weaselwolf 11 ай бұрын
I like the testors needle tip bottle, though it clogs from time to time
@fabiobrama783
@fabiobrama783 3 жыл бұрын
I have a question for you, but before that... I have to tell you that i really appreciated you videos. Well... to avoid excessive suspence... my question is: what kind of adehesive do you recommend for 3D resins? Thanks
@socko47
@socko47 4 жыл бұрын
Where does lacquer thinner fit in?
@laam999
@laam999 3 жыл бұрын
Bah, worked with a tonne of xylene and didn't realize I could top up my glue. I love the smell of citadel glue so I'll have to check out if we have any MEK in my new place
@zininmed98
@zininmed98 Жыл бұрын
Could we please see more chemistry behind the evaporation and final polystyrene?
@GoobertownHobbies
@GoobertownHobbies Жыл бұрын
someday I'll get better at drawing, but the chemisty is actually pretty straightforward since there are no covalent bonds being made or broken. Just a bit of plastic partially dissolving in the solvent and moving around, then the solvent evaporates and leaves the polymer strands entangled :-)
@joshuareddinger7555
@joshuareddinger7555 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Brent. I added sprues to a bottle of testers to make that gel consistency but after application it stayed soft and I could l not sand it. Any advice?
@triruns
@triruns 5 жыл бұрын
Every other hobbyist out there who persists in incorrectly stating that model cements "melt" the plastic together should be required to watch this video. Melting requires heat.
@GoobertownHobbies
@GoobertownHobbies 5 жыл бұрын
Yep, I'm trying to put some more hobby science into the world :-)
@triruns
@triruns 5 жыл бұрын
@@GoobertownHobbies Great job! Are you a teacher?
@NarrativeAcademy
@NarrativeAcademy 2 жыл бұрын
Those cats are so f’ing cute 😂
@Portlandhardstylers
@Portlandhardstylers 4 жыл бұрын
I wish I saw this before I waited so long for my MR.Hobby Cement.
@Terabiel
@Terabiel 4 жыл бұрын
What about Resin and the other plastics that minis are being made from these days?
@MaZEEZaM
@MaZEEZaM 4 жыл бұрын
What I don't understand, if they are designed to stick together styrene, why do most of the glues contain styrene as an ingredient? So, would it be that the polystyrene is not strictly needed but a nice addition and instead the solvent unbinds the molecules of the adjoining plastics and as the solvent evaporates, the molecules rebinds as a intermingled singular solid?
@PhatYeti
@PhatYeti 3 жыл бұрын
What glue do you prefer for plastic and resin models?
@arxwng
@arxwng 5 жыл бұрын
i had an old italeri non toxic plastic cement (glue) from a kit with some air plane plastic models, that i used for some games workshop miniatures too,it was nice glue but i used it all,im thinking of buying the army painter plastic glue for the rest of my miniatures.Is it a good idea? does anyone know if those 2 glues work the same? the italeri glue strong,but the same time if u wanted to remove a hand lets say from a figure ,with some little extra pressure u could do it without causing any other damage,and then u could clean the area that the glue was and glue it back again with no problem. was that possible because was plastic cement glue? or is just an other name for '' plastic glue'' ?
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