How Factory Games Play YOU

[@Thurold]

To me, it's mostly starting from nothing and growing. It's very satisfying.

[@Mindless999]

I would call it satisfactory

[@michaeleccher4068]

I agree, many games start out so well… yet few have mastered this initial endorphin rush past a few hours of gameplay.

[@tammytreasure4000]

​@@Mindless999 I agree

[@Inthedark72]

+ Dyson Sphere Program completes the trifecta!

[@BUILDASPLIFF]

Yeah starting with nothing but a few ore patches and building up to a massive automated factory is what hooks me

[@dylan538]

factorio and satisfactory are legitimate masterpieces

[@TotalXclipse]

Any others come to mind?

[@gdsmiler]

@@TotalXclipse Captain of industry

[@JordanMetroidManiac]

@@TotalXclipse Mindustry! That game is designed well to blend tower defense with factory design. It’s also incredibly unique in that, for some levels, you are the side sending waves of attacks to an enemy base. Both the wave defense and wave offense are the result of you building a functional factory beforehand.

[@JoshuaGanoTyraxLightning]

I've recently learned of "Foundry" and am tempted to try out a Play Log of it soon. I'm on Hiatus from Satisfactory cause UE5 is making my Old Rig choke, yet UE4 is no longer the latest and greatest so I can't go back to it anymore. Foundry may serve as a great band aid fix till I can eventually get a new and better Rig complete... someday.

[@bewaterdmt]

@@TotalXclipse Stationeers!

[@ImKibitz]

This was a really fun and well done video man, enjoyed it a lot!

[@DavidCaldicottMedia]

The biggest lesson for me from factory games: sometimes, it's best to walk away from the big mess you made while you were still figuring out the game, and sometimes it's best to knuckle down and spend a few hours fixing the mess. i.e. A new Save gives you the chance to start fresh with all you've learned, but you'll have to wait a while to reach the level you made it to last time. I've found those new saves good for clearing burnout, getting creative and reconnecting with the passion. But after a few dozen hours I always come back to my core save, tidy up all the messy, rushed jobs, finally build aesthetic buildings around my levitating factory floors, and then pick up where I left off on the Milestones. Knowing whether to start fresh, or follow through has been a tough one for me. In the end, it's this: don't think about how hard it will be... think about how fun it will be! If it'll be more fun to start again, go for it, but be prepared to accept that if you keep doing that you'll never reach the Mastery level.

[@JoshuaGanoTyraxLightning]

Also, imho there's no shame in playing a Dummy Log first that's just used to try to learn the game first and is never designed to ever last or get attached to, especially on ones with no or not good enough Tutorials, then when one feels ready, abandon it to start your actual REAL Game Log. :) (This can be especially useful a Strat when playing Games that are still in Alpha...) Also, never get used to any Game Log/Game World made in a game at any point in time before that game's Full Release. IMHO ANYTHING made in a game any time before Full Release should be regarded and treated as if it is Non Canon.

[@RodDavis]

I am currently obsessed with Satisfactory, previously obsessed with Factorio. The downside to factory games is the tedium, which is also part of the allure. However in Satisfactory when things get overly intricate, I can always go exploring, find hard drive, be cosmetic, go for a ride, or just sit up high and admire the world and what I created. I enjoy watching other people play and admire their handiwork. It is incredible the creativity some people have, like you for instance. Thanks for posting.

[@TotalXclipse]

I definitely think one of the key elements Satisfactory has over other top down factory games is the decoration side of things - it's, it's own game within a game

[@JoshuaGanoTyraxLightning]

A big draw of Satisfactory is definitely being able to let your Factory sit and let Resources do their thing while one takes a break and does things for fun... like enjoying taking a Chainsaw to a big ol' Forest for funsies... >:D (& for extra bonus points, ya don't even waste those Resources, ya can put them to use for extra benefit! Viva La Liquid Biofuel!)

[@drarfwithgun]

When I heard the power failure sound I felt intense and irrational anxiety. What has this game done to me!

[@Bigfilmguy]

Until recently I would have said Satisfactory is my favourite game, but having recently got into Foundry, that is fast approaching the point of being my new favourite! I can see myself spending even more time on Foundry than Satisfactory. As much as I love Satisfactory, being able to shape the landscape in Foundry just scratches an itch I didn't even know about!

[@JoshuaGanoTyraxLightning]

Additional points, in no particular order: * Games like this also tend to be real good at being a very effective form of "Rags to Riches" style fun. * Some of these kinds of games can be fun to play when one is in the mood for this kinda game and action &/or Combat. (Factorio easy example.) * Games like this can be fun and relaxing to play while one might be the kinda Player that enjoys carnage and destruction, including but not limited to "Diggy Diggy Hole" kinds. (I myself totally fit this bill!) * Creative Building opportunities kinda fun works for Legos, and it works for games like this. :) * Some of these kinds of games can be fun to play when one is in the mood to just chill and relax and one is in no mood to worry about being serious about anything, especially things like 'time tables' and 'timers' and such, and one just wants to mosey at a relaxed pace and maybe even take a break from the main game loop and just do something for just fun, like an aesthetic 'just for fun' build, or just casually experiment around with stuff, or such. 'Lizard Doggo Petting Zoo', for example. :)

[@frosty1978]

Having played Satisfactory for over 3,000 hours, I share your love of building the efficient factory and then making it look great. To me the key is that there is no real cost if you get it wrong. I've built factories over and over again to refine the process. Bring on 1.0!

[@Recon777x]

For me, the factory bug began with Minecraft's "Logistics PIpes" mod, buildcraft, and industrialcraft. Fully modded Minecraft became very much a sort of Satisfactory Lite a decade ahead of its time. Then it was Factorio for the full-blown experience. Satisfactory is basically Factorio Lite with first person and beautiful scenery.

[@SteamfoxEoin]

I love this in-depth breakdown. My first thought was simply, "Yes. This." But, to be honest, I feel compelled to write my first KZbin comment. Thank you for your service and I appreciate all you've contributed. I wish I had the resources to support your creativity more.

[@GaidalKain]

I never would have thought I'd like a Factory game but on a whim I tried the SF open beta in 2019(?) and was hooked. Played 300+ hours at Update 3 after getting on sale at launch on EGS. Did a couple of new and abandoned saves, repaired my broken OG game before exporting to Steam........ Bought it a 2nd time when released on Steam for ANOTHER 350+ hours on a new save after U7 through U8. Next time will be at 1.0.

[@TotalXclipse]

Next time will be at 1.0 ... And it will be soon worth it!

[@AarynGulledge]

Great summary of why these games hook us! I've just recently gotten into factory games (Satisfactory, about 400 hrs played) after spending well over 1000 hrs in Valheim. While it certainly is satisfying to build an efficient factory producing something I need, it can also be quite daunting to plan it all out. Sometimes, I just want to explore and kill things, especially since my job requires a lot of thinking, planning, and troubleshooting and I'm not needing that endorphin hit afterwards. But when I DO get the building bug, it's WAY too easy to stay up until 3am finishing the final pieces of a factory and troubleshooting why the lines aren't running smoothly. If Satisfactory 1.0 and Valheim: Ashlands get released near each other, I'm sure I'll be in geek-heaven, bouncing between the two depending on what kind of challenge I want.

[@dimex2000]

I have to say Factorio heavyly modded is my favorit, im close to 10.000 hours in there, i like thothre games too, but feeling the First person view getting in the way of efficient building the line. good video...

[@RobertLeachman]

at first I was all, why not try Nullius, and then weeks and weeks later I was like, that was really cool :)

[@Thundernoob98]

What I really love is building mid way through the game and then starting a new base when you have more technology unlocked

[@driverjamescopeland]

It's simple really... it feeds our need for a sense of accomplishment.... which, when mixed with a fair dose of creativity and expression, is dopamine for both sides of the brain.

[@itsmaxmint]

You probably know the video „Satisfactory: An unlikely masterpiece“ right? Would love to get a video like that from you, maybe when 1.0 is released and you can really show off EVERYTHING this brilliant timesink we all love has got to the world!

[@tomiurban]

Oxygen not included! A very fun game with focus on Physics, Chemistry, Machinery, Electricity, etc...

[@micheljolicoeur6094]

Definitely Sarisfactory the top one for me as I love the third person view. Getting your hands dirty building the factory. Factorio quickly deteriorates down to slap down a blueprint and walk away as an army of boys build everything.

[@Warp9pnt9]

I was actually thinking about this very topic today as I try to brainstorm ideas for a basic game loop. I like the combination of scalable objectives of the factory genre (introduce new items composed of existing items, gate unlocking via automation checks), along with the builder game loop which allows the player to choose their own constraints such as artistic expression, logical efficiency, redundancy, robust recovery from extreme inputs, aesthetics, and so on. But factory games seem overdone or overrepresented as a genre. There are masterpieces already. But such games might appeal more to males than females, and also heavily tech-centric. So I'm thinking of an idea that is more nature-centered and possibly psychologically based. Sure, there may be math or tech based puzzles, but I kind of want to explore the idea of building relationships in a population and maximizing the health of an ecosystem. Maybe terraform a planet ravaged by a FIXSIT employee back to a diverse ecosystem with a population of quirky people that you somehow learn to get the most use and happiness out of. idk, just spitballing ideas. I'm using GDX and building entirely on Android for now. I get a basic splash screen with a custom font, color, size, position right now. Taking some inspiration from ThinMatrix and Juice Velvet to just try and learn enough of the API to manifest some ideas.

[@RickClark58]

I want to throw out modded Minecraft since it fits well within the factory niche. Java Edition of Minecraft has some of the best factory modpacks that you can play. Packs like All the Mods, Skyfactory, Stoneblock, FTB Skies, All of Fabric and so on, are all automation plays using not only hard resources, but soft resources as well such as farming. There isn't a single factory game, Satisfactory included, and I love Satisfactory, that has the depth of some of these well-crafted modpacks. You think Satisfactory is challenging? Try setting up the automation for the Mekasuit in the Mekanism mod. That is a challenging and interesting progression loop. Almost all of them have an end goal as well, so you aren't just making stuff to make stuff. All the Mods modpack, for example, has the ATM Star as its goal, and it is very challenging. And on Java Edition, the modpacks are free. There are literally thousands of modpacks available. Just browse Curseforge. Need I add that you can also build? It is Minecraft.

[@TotalXclipse]

I definitely agree with Modded minecraft, and agree it relates to the video too. As for the mods you mentioned, what would be the number 1 mod you'd recommend?

[@RickClark58]

@@TotalXclipse All the Mods 9 No Frills is a great place to start. It removes a lot of the bloat from the original while still giving a complete game experience. FTB Skies is a personal favorite and highly recommended as well. No Frills is on Curseforge and Skies is on the FTB launcher.

[@starwall8755]

@@TotalXclipse Create mod is definitely top for me. I'm a big fan of the Steampunk modpack.

[@JordanMetroidManiac]

I agree with everything you said. However, I do want to also throw out that factory-based Minecraft mods aren’t designed to be scaled. For example, in Mekanism, you only ever need one of each type of machine to get a very high processing rate of ores. So, it’s still fun to progress in those modpacks, but games like Factorio and Satisfactory hit the sweet spot for making the factory grow.

[@JoshuaGanoTyraxLightning]

@@starwall8755 I've been having a lotta fun with Create as well! Though my fav pal and I have encountered a problem with Item Vaults that seems to stem when they are deployed in a 3x3x any length size and maybe if they are deployed to pass through Chunk Borders where Items were potentially getting deleted/lost outta them upon World Save and Exit then reloading in. Afraid to use Vaults in a size bigger than 2x2x any length size now. (Also haven't been able to determine if there could be Issues between Code Compatibility between Create and Tom's Simple Storage... The Vaults we've found to have the problem are ones that were on duty serving a Central Storage Area between them and Tom's Simple Storage set up on a L4 Beacon for Global/Worldwide Wireless Belt Terminal access.) Still overall, Create rocks so much i'll never be able to go back to Vanilla Minecraft.

[@LuisRivera-rl9gl]

Currently playing DSP with almost 300 hours and there’s something so satisfying about watching my interstellar logistics station work after the forth or fifth iteration, it sucks having to rebuild and redesign how each planet is being used but once everything locks in it’s the best feeling in the world

[@BradfordCB]

I would enjoy a Satisfactory focused video like this one.

[@TotalXclipse]

Perhaps we'll talk about it closer to 1.0! Any other factory games you think's worth talking about?

[@MRLebanonnn]

My first factory game was the Feed The Beast mod in Minecraft. Taking Minecraft’s core mechanics to new levels via factories and automation was truely magic. Today I find I have to bar myself from factory games, as the endorphin loop often pulls me away from things I ought to be doing IRL. But I’m grateful for all they have taught me, and I’ll likely continue to get lost in them the odd weekend or so when new updates to my favourites come out Also a but if a different flavour ~ but I’d argue that the Anno series also fits into this genre and 1800 with all expansions is MASSIVE

[@AleksandrStrizhevskiy]

I definitely want the Satisfactory focused video. Also someone tell me the name of the game where you build underground? It seemed like there was factory building in a cave? Was that also satisfactory but in the cave system?

[@Warp9pnt9]

Techtonica.

[@FastTquick]

There’s also the upcoming game Foundry where you can both build underground and build buildings out of blocks.

[@TotalXclipse]

Techtonica! I'm actually covering it in a video on Monday! (hopefully!)

[@AleksandrStrizhevskiy]

@@TotalXclipse Yeah I noticed its not in your likes of 2023 factory games. I dont think Ive heard of it. I will look forward to your review when you can get it out.

[@TotalXclipse]

@@AleksandrStrizhevskiy It is in the video -at 1 minute in :)

[@Dyanpanda]

I know its a bit late to the party, but maybe you'll see this still. Friedrich Nietzsche once said," What is happiness? The feeling that power is growing, that resistance is overcome." I think that is the exact thing i love about factory games. The efficiency of scale allows my capacity to keep growing constantly.

[@SamSmithNZ]

I've played them all, but I do keep coming back to satisfactory. For me, I feel like satisfactory is a master in game design - it's really multiple games in one, with each phase bringing new transportation and power options. The early game, 1st part of the game, is about early automation and self-feeding bio power. The second part of the game is about coal, and having to go further afield - although still relatively local - with trucks (usually for steel) a big change from just using belts. The third part is trains, and starting to work around an entire region - maybe popping into a new region for Oil and fuel power. The last phase is the global automation, where you need the last elevator items, you have multiple flying options with drones and jet/hover packs, and really require factories across the map, and the ultimate power generation: Nuclear. Each part is distinct, but also fun in it's own way.

[@OverlordMagos]

I too was enamored with the Fallout 4 Contraption DLC. Then I saw Satisfactory but it was in the Epic Game Store... one week later, Update 3 came out and the game released on Steam and I got it :D Been playing it ever since.

[@TotalXclipse]

Never look back! :D

[@matthewanslem5689]

Fallout 4 got me too. I used the factory parts to keep a minigun build going, and had a blast.

[@XtianApi]

Factorio is my first love so I can't compare it to anything, because I don't even know what it would be like to play it after any of the other ones, but I couldn't get into Dyson sphere, do you think was hard for me to get into but I do want to try it again because I think the concept is brilliant, tectonica I got into a bit but I kept getting lost I don't remember if I didn't know there was a map or what but running around a lot just wasn't awesome, but I will try that again. Satisfactory I did play a good bit but I didn't like that everything wasn't running on a perfect grid and how large all the machines were I guess? The game that turned into an instant Obsession for me, which is the first one since factorio is Foundry. It truly is a 3D factorio . It runs on a locked grid and the machines are a little bit bigger than the player and follow certain grid layouts. It is first person which to me doesn't really make a difference . But it is a masterpiece

[@ReyvinHill1981]

I'm still fairly new to the automation genre. I have several thousand hours in it but I feel like I'm still learning. And that's what keeps me addicted to it. There's always a better way to do something. There's always a factory I saw online that inspires me to build or change one of my own. I don't feel like I've mastered any of them which is why I still feel new to the genre even with so many hours involved. There's still so much for me to learn. I prefer the first person factory games because they're more immersive and I feel like I'm a part of the world that I'm creating.

[@sirsplintfastthepungent1373]

There's something in the book 'Shopcraft as Soul Craft' about the problems with a lot of modern work, that the goals are too ambiguous to be satisfying. If a team did "better" it's not always clear how, and everyone gets a participation award. For an electrician, either the light comes on when the switch is flicked, or it doesn't. For a machinist, the cam shaft is either the correct dimensions, or it's not. For Satisfactory, either the belts move, or they don't.

[@Degkinson]

I first got really into automation when toying around with modded Minecraft for the first time way back when. Fast forward a few years, I followed an artist on social media who did a lot of Satisfactory fan art... I got super hooked almost immediately, which was a great distraction during 2020. It was the first game for me that really turned out to be a time machine- you boot it up and suddenly it's 5 hours later. I wish I had more time to play it nowadays (it's not exactly an easy game to play when you have a full time job!), and I know that when 1.0 drops it'll have its hooks in me deep again.

[@Rogerfoulger]

Oddsparks has just come out a quirky automation game which u might enjoy

[@Warp9pnt9]

Also, to answer question, I love SF over TT because I prefer being above ground and seeing the sun, feeling rain, air, hearing the sounds in a jungle or desert, whereas TT I felt claustrophobic and sad to be trapped underground. Both games are very well made. I also like the cleaner, larger, more angular style of SF machines as well as natural color pallete vs TTs smaller, everything-neon color palette and smaller, rounded machines. For me, both game loops seem fun, but the style is a huge difference. Other people like both styles equally, or TT style more. It is funny how much style preference and importance can vary from one person to another. I like the 1st or 3rd person view of both SF and TT whereas I strongly dislike the top-down view on games like Factorio, DSP, and others. I love the survival genre but mostly (95%) for the building aspect, and 5% for the "I built all this with one hand while fending off dragons with the other" sense of accomplishments. But gathering mats by hand, I don't want a monotonous grinding game loop. That's so 1980s and I'm over it.

[@billgerhard6803]

Foundry is my favorite; I love the snap-together cube-voxel interface. Easy for an oldster like myself to master. 😊

[@killamajig]

satisfactory is #1 in my book, and i have just started playing foundry and am seeing the clock speed by.

[@starwall8755]

my first love in terms of logistics games was modded minecraft and that still holds a special place in my heart. I don't know how many hours I have in it but it easily must be over 2,000

[@notaboutroses1710]

I play mostly satisfactory, and I am addicted to this game called OddSparks which released in early access a few days ago. It's got a fun mechanic where instead of belts, you build paths for your Sparks (pikmin-like creatures) to walk on and transport resources from A to B. Since it only released a few days ago, it doesn't have many features that I find overwhelming yet, giving me time to learn the core mechanics first. Trains and logic stuff is to come in a future update is confirmed, so that'll be fun.

[@lottievixen]

Oddsparks is awesome and cute

[@JereFl]

You should try Mindustry, its also pretty addicting and it brings a tower defense aspect to the factory style

[@Rogerfoulger]

Love DSP and Satisfactory. Struggle to get my head around Techtonica, tried to love it but not there yet

[@marcoodw5014]

True 100%. I am really looking forward new factory games with its own style and originality. I had a blast 1 week ago for Oddsparks . Not too many to do right now with 2 biomes, but after all this time, its feels different enough to my all time favourites. I really hope it will get popular. My Toplist : 1. Satisfactory 2. Factorio 3. Dyson Sphere Program

[@WanderingCrow]

I feel called out... Never thought I'd see the day it makes me happy about it 🤔

[@JonpaulGee]

Some people are born with lizard brains some are born with Beaver brains. RISE UP BUILDERS!

[@TotalXclipse]

Haha I wish I could get into Timber born not sure why I struggled with it so much. Sound game though

[@simonshawca]

I totally agree! Satisfactory is a masterpiece! I can't wait for 1.0 - I am going to build my biggest most efficient factory yet.

[@protoborg]

Oh you sweet summer child.

[@AlexTrajan]

I start with DSP (260h) but it was my first Factory Game and so after a few unproductives starts I only copy (and try to improve) blueprints I find online. At the beginning, I also really like playing on a non-euclidian grid but it ended up being a pain. I then play Techtonica (170h), designing my own factory. Unfortunately not a lot of replayability and also no logic block at all (And no blueprints). I then switch to Desynced but I'm a Conveyor belt lover and I only start to enjoy it when I design an almost bot-less factory that emulate Conveyors belts. And my favorite one is Astrocolony (500h). I really like designing modular platforms that can be docked/undocked, and so I don't have to destroy a significant part of my factory when I want to upgrade it. I also give a shot to Hydroneer (100h), really great game for logic elements but not as satisfying as other factory games (You don't craft parts of your factory, your factory only convert ore into coins that you use to buy everything, and no storage). Currently playing Final Factory, similar to Astrocolony for modular platforms (You have to build this way, because every build cost stability). I try Factorio, I really don't like the design. My next one will probably be Satisfactory or Foundry. I also heard about the Crust and Automation Station coming in 2024

[@TehGM]

Endorphin kick from resolving problems. Exactly why I like programming so much. And programmers, including myself, tend to like factory games. Coincidence? I think not.

[@Xhaleon]

4:30 The AssemblerUI mod will help with that by displaying the /min numbers for every item, I think its almost a mandatory QOL. Don't know why many factory games refuse to put this simple calculated value down in-game so that we don't have to open up a calculator and/or notepad. The actual amounts consumed per operation still has to be reviewed on the recipe page separately though.

[@meatstack]

I didn't think I would like factory games as much if they didn't have no penalty deconstruction. Getting everything back allows you to experiment safely, without jeopardizing hard to find bits. It's why I'm living planet crafter right now

[@protoborg]

Of the 18 games I have favorited on Steam, 6 are factory games. Big Pharma, Dyson Sphere Program, Infinifactory, Production Line, Satisfactory, and Techtonica. I also have another 6 factory games installed that are lower on my list. Factorio is among the other 6.

[@TyTalks2020]

It's tough to put into words so hopefully I can do a good job. I like games like this because I feel like I live in it. Something about going out and coming back "home" really does it for me. Fallout 4 and Skyrim have similar gameplay loops but I love Fallout 4 and hate Skyrim. Why? There's no home in Skyrim. You're a magical murder machine 24/7 and that's it. For me, that completely destroys the loop because there doesn't seem to be a "loop" at that point. It's more of a straight line. DO THIS THING UNTIL THE GAME IS OVER. Same with Elden Ring. DO THIS THING. Now yes you can argue.... but that's Satisfactory. Gather resources and automate. But going out to get resources and coming back home with them.... that feels like the loop for me. That's the completion of the cycle. Fallout 4. Go out into the wasteland, find things, come home. Loop / cycle complete. Begin again. Skyirm, kill kill kill kill kill kill kill kill kill game over.... It's like bowling. Pins come up, knock them down, repeat. If a bowling game never ended.... that would be all that you do.... knock pins down, knock pins down, knock pins down. That doesn't do anything for me. So, I don't know what that feeling is called but I really like games where you go out and come home. Fallout4, Dyson, Astroneer, Satisfactory, Valheim, Deep Rock, Hell Divers 2.... I love going out, doing what needs to be done, and coming back home.

[@butwhytho6522]

Satisfactory, the game that asks "Can you build this more efficiently?" ANd I answer, Yes but I wont Or the "Can I beat satisfactory without ever using a convery belt?" (answer yes, but no)

[@TotalXclipse]

I think those are both equally points that make the game so great, that freedom to do it your way

[@thomasguerrini7285]

also checkout minecraft with the create mod. Being able to completely shape the world around you is something that games like satisfactory cannot provide (aside from cutting down trees and placing platforms). want to send your resorces to your other base? why make the train go around the mountain, when you can carve a massive underground tunnel?

[@DjCronics]

Games like building and collecting resources, these games are based on the basic instinct of collecting. People have it almost in their genes.

[@simond.2479]

I think you mean dopamine, not endorphine release, or you have a pretty naughty and intimate relation with your games ;D

[@Cross_111]

Would definitely be interested in a specific video about satisfactory Another game which hits me hard and has a similar prospect is anno… (1404 or 1800)

[@Warp9pnt9]

Actually, I also liked Planet Crafter, and some other simpler turn-based games like Terraformers. Sometimes I go for 4x or RTS games as well.

[@FastTquick]

I’m looking forward to playing the game Foundry on Steam Early Access. It’s a lot like Satisfactory in that it’s in first-person and you can build production lines, but it’s more like Modded Minecraft where you can dig and terraform the land and can build your buildings however you want using a simple grid system. I am also looking forward to Satisfactory’s full 1.0 release and playing with the game’s updates and brand new features that will be available upon launch.

[@TotalXclipse]

I've been lucky enough to check out Foundry and have a video prepared for next week. You might be surprised, but I think it's more like Factorio meets minecraft than it is Satisfactory. Which is great IMO because it's not trying to be too similar to Satisfactory. It's well worth playing and I could see myself putting a lot of time in it before Satisfactory 1.0. Are there any other automation games you're enjoying atm?

[@keimahane]

Factory and building games are so addictive to the current generation because we don't. We all long to be productive in real life, but let us be honest, we are sad home bodies who go to cubes to make a wage so we can buy games to make ourselves feel as if we have actually accomplished something important by designing incredible efficient factories or cities. It is all really sad to be honest.

[@XAVR_]

I played DSP to the "end" and really enjoyed it, but Satisfactory (partly thanks to your videos) has been my go to fix for automation games for 500+ hours now. It's probably the best one, right?

[@TotalXclipse]

I definitely think so - but could that be I'm bias?

[@XAVR_]

@@TotalXclipse all I know is I'm buzzing for 1.0 so I can start the grind all over again 😅

[@TotalXclipse]

@@XAVR_ You me both!

[@TheUKmoody]

Hey! - Do you means Dopamine and not Endorphin. Endorphin is pain relief. (: Other than that we understood you :P - Thanks for all your help and being hours of content.

[@TotalXclipse]

Yep I absolutely do mean that :D

[@tomsterbg8130]

I love factory games, especially Factorio. However lately i've lost the flame for it and i don't know why. Maybe because i have only tried out a few of them - Factorio, Shapez (1) and Mindustry come to mind immediately. I know that Factorio is just way too good and i'm waiting for the new DLC coming October, but until then i've been exploring how to make mods for it in order to make it interesting again. Funnily enough making mods feels better than the game, curious why that happens.

[@arthurod44]

Satisfactory forever ❤❤

[@Rogerfoulger]

the ping of the unlocks too :)

[@freeze1305]

2:32 - TRIGGEREDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

[@TotalXclipse]

:D Same for all of us!

[@bakkerem1967]

I must confess I quit playing DSP and Satisfactory a few weeks ago (after a combined hour count of over 6000 over a period of 4 years). It was sucking me dry, and it happened to me a second time over a period of just over a year... That's not a nice trend. It's just too good ..

[@luckybeatz9272]

You should definetely try astroneer!!!!

[@P7_Drowsy]

Perhaps you should try Minecraft. You can automate gathering of 90% of the things in it. Or modded Minecraft, with the Create mod for a more mechanical approach.

[@TotalXclipse]

I loved minecraft at Uni, any mods you'd recommend?

[@P7_Drowsy]

​@@TotalXclipse Firstly, install Fabric to use Fabric Mods. Then here's my most essential mod list for vanilla Minecraft. Fabric-Api(required for other mod), Itemscroller, Litematica, malilib (required for other mods), minihud, sodium, modmenu, tweakaroo. Then whatever quality of life mods you feel like you need afterwards. Maybe Nvidium and Bobby to increase render/view distance. If you're a fan of building, maybe WorldEdit or Axiom. There's youtube videos on how to install mods, just make sure they match the version of Minecraft you're running otherwise it wont launch.

[@magnusgrn6692]

my list is 1 satisfactory 2 minecraft modde for factory building 3 Foundry 4 techtonica 5 factorio

[@TestNewphone-f6n]

God i wish the game gripped me. all i can see is , that it's already done for me. All i need to do is connect 1 thing to another with lines... Stuff that i built. tho shapez and minedustry are good for me maybe i should try 1st person ones It just doesn't make sense to not have an objective or a loose condition that drives me to make better stuff and learn the game's mechanics

[@jamespearson3216]

The only Factory game for me is Satisfactory. It has several levels of game play that keep me from getting bored. Exploring, base/building building, factory management. If you get tired of one, take a break and go do one of the other for a little bit. Then come back and finish up a factory that you were working on. Something then clicks and you find a better way to do it or a new vision comes into your head and you tear is all down to start over. 🤣🤣🤣

[@ProSpiney]

Personaly I like both Satifactory and DSP for different reasons. Satisfactory for its 100% efficiency "math", it's immensly "satisfying" to build that product, and see it run at 100%. DSP i usually over feed. the end game of DSP is for me better, since the scaling is better, (mostly because of BP's. you need x amount of resources? go to a new planet and stamp a global BP, clean it up, stamp down 2000 smelters, and go back to the "harder" items. In Satisfactory, the end game is HOURS of laying tracks and floors and belt ect. (if you want it clean and not just dragging it accross the map), and the big item upscaling is just to slow. the new BP system is something but so limited to a small print. DSP also has an immensly good feeling looking up at the universe and see all that travel seeing it all filled with "life". And last, seeing that first Dyson sphere being build and floating around your sun? Satisfying.

[@TotalXclipse]

I really want to love DSP, for all the reasons you've mentioned, it's just something I struggle to stay engaged with after 10-20 hours in game.

[@ProSpiney]

@@TotalXclipse the best tip I can give is. Build massive BP's in planet sectors (@nilaus-tv is the main source of insperation for this. Once you have the logistics system it all ramps up. Those you can build to max conveyor cap. And you can make it al perfect in numbers, but indeed Satisfactory has that covert better. Satisfactory also has more focus on actual buildings esthetics. And some of you have an insane eye for detail. DSP and factorio are pure production. But for me DSP takes the cake when you zoom out and look at a perfectly lay-oyt world. Still i have been suckt in these games for hours, blink and 4h have gone by.

[@NoradNoxtus]

I would love Satisfactory if its fundamental design wasn't predicated on not being a logistical challenge. The game almost feels like it doesn't want to be an automation game and so fumbles at how it goes about handling higher complexity and managing the inevitable tedium and labour these games require.

[@TheCorpsehatch]

If I had to choose only one game to play the rest of my life it would likely be Satisfactory, Transport Fever 2, or Oxygen Not Included. All three have an endless amount of gameplay. Every map is different from the last. Your brain is always being used.

[@TotalXclipse]

In terms of pure hours in game, it would have to be Satisfactory for me, but I also loved transport Fever 2. For some reason I've never got into ONI. When you say every map is different, would you like different maps as an option in Satisfactory?

[@TheCorpsehatch]

@@TotalXclipse For Satisfactory I meant you can build your factory differently each time you start a new save. Was easier to use "map" as a generic term when talking about all three games.

[@IsThatDrak]

funny thing is when satisfactory update 2 was released my friend begged me to play it and i said no many times coz it looked so boring..... 9k hours later cant wait for 1.0 till then i been working with satisfactory and techtonica with abit of dsp lol

[@TotalXclipse]

9k hours? that's more than me! I salute you! :D Do you think you'll check out Foundry next week?

[@IsThatDrak]

@@TotalXclipse about 1k might be afk but yeah i pretty much live on it, often i build on it while playing other games! lol i think i played the demo or the beta of foundry, it was decent if i recall correctly. it is under 30 i will any more i might wait a bit

[@IsThatDrak]

@@TotalXclipse also keep in mind i played it on epic awhile before i got it on steam xD i think update 5 or 6 i got it on steam

[@TotalXclipse]

@@IsThatDrak so did I, but I'm only scraping 5k + hours in game 🤣

[@IsThatDrak]

@@TotalXclipse pfft you play enshrouded, valheim, techtonica, sponsors. part timer! when i play new games i play them aswell! lol

[@Recon777x]

btw it's dopamine, not endorphins. Dopamine gives you reward pleasure. Endorphins are painkillers given from thrill and exercise.

[@TotalXclipse]

You're absolutely right - Don't know how I confused them!

[@yournamethere123]

DSP tells you the production rates if you just open your eyes lmao 😂

[@Gn_Zero]

i undertand what you mean on this video, i really understand, i also like a lot satisfactory, but i can work my way on dyson too, the only problem at least o my case, maybe i can be hours and hours on the game playing solo, and doing factories more and more bigger, but the problem is i enjoy a lot more if i can do the same playing with friends on co-op style, and that is not posible on dyson, for the moment i will prefer satisfactory on that point, with this videos you make us come back to satisfactory and is not even ready 1.0, damn, XD

[@TotalXclipse]

If you like multiplayer factory games, have you seen Foundry? it's coming out next week to EA

[@Gn_Zero]

@@TotalXclipse yeah, when it was on demo i tried, it was very similar, is on my wish list on steam, XD

[@michaeleccher4068]

God if Satisfactory story had the survival and combat aspects of Valheim… Or if I could Smash sim city 4 and factorio together Satisfactory is truly amazing but it falls off right after nuclear power for me.

[@TotalXclipse]

It'll be interesting to see if they improve on that for 1.0

[@gavin.d.m]

I'm not a huge fan of being linked to a character - 1st person or top-down. I like factorio but don't like the character. I really like Shapez and 2 is out soon with a totally new look.

[@dumaskhan]

i actually didn't like satisfactory as much. the large buildings and such feels obstructive. I like being able to easily see over the factory and change anything on the fly instantly without having to navigate a city like buildings. by the way, if you're in the market for a new factory game, FOUNDRY is coming out soon on early access on steam. It's a slimmed down version of satisfactory that I found to be much more approachable.

[@TotalXclipse]

I've actually got a video prepped for Foundry, but I'd argue it's more like a first person Factorio than Satisfactory. Regardless it's a good game, and I'll probably cover it quite a bit more prior to 1.0

[@draksis4591]

7:12 You guys have IRL friends?!? 😅

[@TotalXclipse]

😅

[@CoVeRtToWn]

W video

[@LiLBitsDK]

Dislike Factorio... Hate those stupid arms for the belts... Instead of belts going into machines, feels unneeded... Love Satisfactory great graphics lovely machines and the map is amazing Dislike Techtonica, too much like Factorio and returned it again, again with the stupid arms instead of belts going into machines Have played countless survival games and yes when the survival is done and trivial they don't leave much else to do... And like No Man's Sky you only feel like building "so much" base before you don't need anymore

[@TotalXclipse]

Yep, Satisfactory just does a fantastic job of getting everything right

[@sirdryden42]

Am I the only one who thinks the sound balancing for this video is way off? The content is great, but it's kind of hard to hear.

[@TotalXclipse]

will bear this in mind for the next video - are you listening on speakers or headphones btw?

[@sirdryden42]

@@TotalXclipse headphones; i had to turn youtube volume and speaker volume up quite a bit to hear your voice compared to other videos

[@sirdryden42]

@@TotalXclipse just tried on computer with speakers, computer with headphones, and smartphone; it's the same in all cases, the volume for this one video is way lower than other videos on this channel or other channels

[@sirdryden42]

@@TotalXclipse since I have your attention, I agree that Satisfactory is more immersive, but Factorio and other top-down/2-d games like Oxygen not Included feel more "cozy", if that makes sense. so it depends on what I'm in the mood for.

[@TotalXclipse]

@@sirdryden42 Yeh looking at Stats for nerds this video's 14db quieter than normal, normally youtube will boost volume to normalize it but not sure what happened here

[@LannytheLancasteBomber]

first

[@TotalXclipse]

Definitely not 🤣

[@LannytheLancasteBomber]

@@TotalXclipse WAIT HOL UP WHAT I COMMENTED THIS ON A GT LIVE VID WHUT

[@SurpriseCake]

Highly recommend Modded Minecraft if you like Factory Automation. ATM9 For example.

[@TotalXclipse]

I'd love to get back into minecraft, any other mods you'd recommend?