How far is a .22 lethal?

Just how far is a .22 lethal? I've Always wondered at what range it just won't hurt you. In today's video we endeavor to find the truth.
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As someone who has had a collapsed lung I can confirm there are two of them.

[@impulsemedia2080]

thank you for the confirmation as I wasn't sure.

[@mikewallace8087]

null, why was your lung collapsed ?

[@CoKanet-no2jt]

I crashed my Motorcycle 5 years ago. Got stabbed in my lung a little by a rib when I tried to pick up my bike. It's like taking a tabbaco bong rip and drowning in your saliva.

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Lol that was funny as hell.

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Laughed my ass off!!!!

[@Grimmers]

I was like oh poor guy seems a little awkward having the camera thrust on him like that, and then he hit us with the most fire joke of the whole video.

[@tmolne117]

When I was growing up, using nothing more than a 10/22 with iron sights, I could easily hit a can of bush’s baked beans, the one with the bacon in it, and a hint of brown sugar, with its signature blend of 10 spices coming together in perfect harmony to compliment the smooth but firm feeling of all American beans in a mixture that will leave your mouth saying, “WOW”. Anyways, where was I going with this?

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[@andybars8672]

Well he showed you

[@joejones323]

This is insane! So .22 in a pinch can actually be a very good range defense option. With as quiet as it is, you’d never give up your location.

[@e.k.izzle32]

Unless someone was wearing body Armor I wouldn't hesitate to use a .22 long rifle for defense. For one they are highly accurate. And two, a .22 round is more lethal than most people think. A round that small has better chance ricocheting off bones and changing course in the body.. that doesn't happen everytime but it definitely happens

[@e.k.izzle32]

But .22's are definitely loud enough to give away your position usually unless its suppressed.. tho that last one he was shooting seemed as quiet as a pellet gun lol

[@Holdensmomma]

@@e.k.izzle32 9 times out of 10 if you are using it for defense they don’t have body armor on. Even if they did body armor doesn’t cover the face

[@randomanun4278]

my brother in christ what the fuck do you think 5.56 is.... its a slightly oversized .22 with a fuck load of more powder... the u.s. government sends men to war with varmint rifles... and sometimes the good idea fairy also makes the u.s government send experimental rounds with said varmint rifles like titanium coated 5.56. which is fucking retarded.

[@adabsurdum5905]

​@@e.k.izzle32 My favorite part about is that if you have a semi auto and you can hit a target once, you can probably hit with at least 3 or 4 follow up shots because the recoil is so light. The round has survived 100+ years for good reason.

[@Phah-Queue]

Nobody ever said “don’t worry, they’re only shooting at us with a .22”

[@txdean1166]

👍 Best comment.

[@sslcfc]

Also never met anyone who wanted to get hit by a 22.

[@wildwyatxbox]

People who know nothing about guns do. "Oh its just a 22! We'll be fi

[@bowez9]

@@wildwyatxbox unless it hits a bone.

[@wildwyatxbox]

@@bowez9 That would be worse. The bone would fragment and shoot everywhere. like a mini frag grenade but bone and in your body

[@the_sammyp]

I’m guessing I’m not the only one looking for the dude that said he could hit a can at 700 with irons

[@aaronblair8737]

lol nope there's 2 of us! 😆 🤣 😂

[@Gillimonster2]

Dude same

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Same bro. LmAo. Your comment is what legends Are made of.

[@user-ws3sl9xi7y]

There’s no way

[@NeonReaperMkVII]

650m with a Iron Sight and a shitty .22 there is no way

[@billehhancey6429]

Thank you for making this video. It resolved my internet frustration when some terminally online person tried telling me the 22 is useless on anything bigger than a squirrel.

[@elferson]

it still is for self defense tho. It can definitely kill but not enough to defend yourself in the moment

[@billehhancey6429]

@@elferson Oh I would never think that! The discussion was about a 22 being used by an assassin and a lot of people talking shit, when it is the #1 choice of assassins. They were arguing that the other person was making stuff up because why would an assassin pick the weakest bullet known to man, which I explained that A its not, and B it is still deadly much further than most would ever expect it to be. A lot of places say 22lr is only "effective" to 100-150m and I would like to suggest that rimfire PRS being out to 400m would disagree with that.

[@cameronsadler7070]

@@elfersonthat’s why you binary it. Quantity over quality 😂

[@rreevesb3]

Plus the 22has killed more game any other round

[@wolfmantroy6601]

I've watched caribou shot in the lungs with a .22 collaspe within 50 yards.

[@StormyPeak]

I'm a 60 year old woman, in my teens I used an antique .22 single shot rifle to hunt grouse...had to shoot the heads off, so as not to ruin what little amount of meat they had on them. I used a 30-30 Marlin lever action for the deer hunting. My dad's antique rifle had peep sights, but mine rifle had open sights. I was a very good shot, sometimes I would miss, but usually I hit the bird in the head first shot, which is difficult because those birds are constantly moving their heads about, bopping them up and down and to the left and right. We use to just skin them, rather than defeather them. I would marinate the meat in a brown sugar, apple cider mix, then put it in the smoker for a few hours, using apple wood, or sometimes alder wood, then brush on a little bit of honey and butter mix, wrap in foil and bake the meat. : ) When I turned 18 and moved out of the house and into my own home/adult life.... my dad gifted me with a .22 revolver for my protection. I still have it. I've had people, (mostly men) tell me I needed a more powerful weapon to kill an intruder if one ever broke into my home. Too many people underestimate what a .22 can do...and the one thing I do like about a .22 pistol/revolver is that once fired...and it hits the target, it has less chance than a high powered slug of going through the person. And even if it does, it's lost a lot of energy and the bullet probably isn't going to keep traveling through several walls and end up hurting someone in other rooms, another apartment, or even outside of the building/home.

[@MidoKnighto]

People really underestimate a .22, it is very dangerous my father hunted ibex with a .22 and he killed alot.

[@spencerd1079]

Cool story bro

[@MrSkullSociety]

That is the least american thing i have seen on the internet for the past year.

[@StormyPeak]

@@MrSkullSociety What hunting ibex? Or having something less than a cannon to defend one's life and property...lol

[@chipsawdust5816]

All other issues aside, better to have a 22 than nothing, and it's not an assassin's caliber for no reason.

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Brandon enters the chat ...

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[@nicks2437]

The question that every Canadian firearm owner had to answer to get their PAL: To what range is .22 LR potentially lethal? Answer: 1.1 miles

[@wanderingspider8988]

I'm sorry you live in a communist country.

[@gunfisher4661]

That`s the answer I would expect to hear Though back in the day it was 1 mile and I know the ammo isn`t any hotter now. .22 WHMR used to be rated at 1.5 mile but now it`s 2 mile

[@jjtanton]

It’s definitely potentially lethal to 1.1 and greater. But not accurate.

[@come1atmebro]

Canadian PAL holder restricted and non restricted. I didn’t get this question on a test or never discussed it either…..

[@nicks2437]

@@come1atmebro Maybe its changed, or maybe my instructor lied; but my class was told that question is on every version of the non-restricted exam and it was on mine.

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Sorry boys. Couldn't find the original .22 man comment. He will live on in our hearts as a hero

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That's what I was looking for

[@Steavey-cp5nh]

About 40 years ago when my dad was a teenager, he had a stray .22 bullet come across the lake and stick into his back. His friend pulled it out and he never told his mom.

[@DuplexWeevil337]

He is lucky to be alive! If it had fragmented it would definitely have killed him!

[@Steavey-cp5nh]

@@DuplexWeevil337 yes he is especially with the amount of whiskey he is drinking these days is 57

[@keithpanco]

That's how we did things back then. The last thing we wanted was our parents getting on to us for getting hurt.

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No he didn't. Lmfao

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At what point will they become the new and improved Church of the Scientology!?

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MORE DATA NEEDED PLEASE

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Do a Ruger Mini 14 or Beretta CX4 Storm review!

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Nah, science is great, but we need Recce-Videos! (personal opinion)

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[@Khan.WrathOf]

Alls I know is that no matter what caliber, no matter from how far away, I don't want it being fired at me

[@GarandThumb]

ditto

[@sortofanoakyafterbirth3661]

Yeah bro but a .45 bro is much worse bruh. For real bro, a 45 is the only bro round I'll carry bro. Bro .45, bruh.

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You'd almost think that's the point of the thing.

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[@squarebodyscottsdale4773]

@@sortofanoakyafterbirth3661 I assume you're being sarcastic but, why dont cops carry 45 ACP? They carry 9mm because its faster and more common, more accurate at range. .45s have more bullet drop and are substantially slower to reach the target, the knockdown power is all they got going for them. Everyone thinks a 45 is so badass, and it actually is in a self defence situation, but if you do some long range plinking with one you can literally hear the shot fire then hear it hit the target afterwards. Thats alot of weight moving down range.

[@meatybtz]

The 1-2 mile warning on the box isn't just random CYA. There have been fatal hits with 22lr at 1+mile (random bad luck in these cases) where it hit someone and went through the skin and had a jolly good time on their insides. Turns out it takes very little energy to penetrate human skin. Muscle does a fairly good job of slowing things down though. The more muscle you have the more energy will bleed off. Still, yeah. The hits won't make you DRT but 22lr can cause serious injury at great distance.

[@alexisleskinen9870]

A .177 pellet rifle can kill you. Sure itd need to be an insanely accurate shot but still. It doesnt take much.

[@imeprezime1285]

BS

[@tricksterjoy9740]

@@imeprezime1285 There was a local in my area who was shot by a .22lr at what the news said was “over 2 miles” But looking at it on google maps, and measuring the distance between the recorded points (a gravel pit used as a firing range, to a trail) it was 1.3 miles. It hit him in the neck, almost clean through. He died on the way to the hospital from massive blood loss. An EMT I know told me the details they learned later, confirming it was a .22lr. However that’s like a 1 in a bajillion chance of that happening. And the person who fired the shot was never identified.

[@imeprezime1285]

@@tricksterjoy9740 Maybe they thought 1.2 miles. That might be possible during summer time and some tail wind assistance I guess. However, deep wound you describe is quite improbable. 22 LR is very wimpy at max distance it can travel to

[@tricksterjoy9740]

@@imeprezime1285 oh definitely, the odds of something like that happening are extraordinarily low. And my best guess is the ammo had to be something more potent then standard lead round nose. Maybe even a significantly hotter then it’s supposed to be round. As that’s not entirely uncommon with some brands. (Having inconsistent powder loads) Something like that is almost in the legal category of “acts of god” like weather and tsunamis type of things.

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The fuckin massive wrench with a sling had me dying

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I was talking to my rapist about it just the other day.

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Honestly, it does. It's about the only thing I remember from the first minute of most videos

[@tjey379]

Love the comical ad lib and also love the illustration, apparently I now know that there is a difference between stopping power and lethal, because on most gun channels you will hear them say that the 22 has little to no stopping power but clearly you have shown that it's Lethal, exceptional content here.

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Coming back after .22 man.

[@domnord8865]

Cant find their comment

[@briannewman532]

There was a study done where they collected data from hundreds of trauma surgeons, and the conclusion was that caliber is largely irrelevant. It is shot placement that kills. Train with your weapon and it will be effective.

[@thegamingbean953]

I think being shot in the gut with a .50 BMG would be a lot worse than a .22, a .22 you might survive, a .50 you would not

[@briannewman532]

@@thegamingbean953 and getting hit with an RPG7 or a warhead from a Trident missile is worse than a .22 also. You’re missing the point. Those weapon systems aren’t even comparable to small arms.

[@onepieceoflife7136]

You forgot the nuke

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@@onepieceoflife7136 a Trident is a submarine launched ballistic nuclear missile.

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[@sudokode]

The army estimates 136 joules to be lethal. A standard 22LR hits with 138. So depending on which way a butterfly in Brazil is flapping its junk, your round may or may not be lethal.

[@drelipe340]

Much less than This …18J kills you easly….

[@sudokode]

@@drelipe340 I mean technically a knife is less than 18J, and that can kill you with a good shot. But I think the idea here is kinetic energy being the killer vs putting a hole in something. Obviously penetration matters and if you put a hole somewhere critical, it can kill them. But even without a critical hole, 136J can create enough overpressure inside you to cause massive collateral damage, whereas 18J probably can't. You're talking about something half the size of a 22LR moving at the velocity of a 45ACP. Put it straight through someone's heart or aorta, and I have no doubt it will kill them. Like they said, put enough qualifiers on anything 😁 Edit: sorry, half the velocity of a 45. So way worse than I thought. My exact numbers were 24gr and 500fps, but apparently a standard 45ACP is around 830fps (and wayyyy bigger). And even they get questioned for their "stopping power" vs mag size 😉

[@swaggadash9017]

Even air rifles are dangerous. Doubt you could kill someone with one unless you hit an artery or organ, but you can most certainly put holes in them at very close range as I've seen it happen.

[@sudokode]

@@swaggadash9017 absolutely, gotta be careful with anything that shoots a projectile. At least one guntuber has featured 50cal air rifles that probably have at least the penetration if not the energy of a rifle round.

[@timg7627]

It seems the main difference is lethal Or incapacitated. A 22 at distance may kill but more than likely it won’t be in a timely manner.

[@chuckcribbs3398]

When I was growing up in rural Indiana, we had a burn barrel at the back of our 1 acre property. Behind us was a corn field. I’m guessing two-three hundred yards until it butted up against a line of trees. Then a small river and then just on the other side of the river, a very hole-in-wall general/convenience store. My brother and I had .22LR rifles our dad bought for us (I still have the bolt action one) and we would regularly go out back and shoot holes in the burn barrel and put up targets like pop cans to shoot at. One summer we were out riding our bikes and stopped in the store to get a soda. Mind you our house was not even visible from the store. They were talking about the fact that someone had shot holes in the back of the store. 🥴 We looked at each other and never knew if we were the ones who had shot them. It seemed far-fetched but plausible. Thank God no one got shot or died.

[@discipleaj]

🤣🤣🤦🏻‍♂️😆👍🏻 this is too accurate for what brothers get up to when we're younger (innocently might I add!). Only to find out the next day what you were doing simply as harmless play, had some catastrophic consequences upstream somewhere and it even made the papers. You and your brother just give one another the silent "uh oh 👀" look and pray no one got hurt 😬😬🤐🤐🙏🏻🙏🏻. That, and you didn't want the absolute ass whooping dad would bring. 😆

[@JonesingUSAF]

@@discipleaj agreed! I remember growing up and doing the same thing shooting coke cans I had set up in the woods like I was a sniper. Prob only 200 yards from where I was shooting and not thinking about it really going that far through the woods, put a couple through my great-grandmother’s mailbox! I figured with the elevation difference and being on the woods, nothing would make it out. My dads belt made it out however!

[@justaaron2558]

As someone from Indiana, I can relate to this. Though I had a cheap lever action bought from Wal-mart.

[@JonesingUSAF]

@@justaaron2558 I think we all did!😂😂 that and the Marlin semi auto piece of shit or the pump action 22 that stored the rounds in the tube under the barrel!

[@discipleaj]

@Chris Jones Any home-brew devices just for the fun of it or because you were playing commando? We did 😆 Good times in the wild! 😎✊🏻

[@keithpanco]

When I was 9 someone shot a .22 from a backyard a couple over. It went right past my head. It sounded like a loud mosquito. I will never forget that sound.

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Lucky.

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You sure someone didn’t try to assassinate you? lol

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[@loganbloom3648]

As a person that has pushed .22 to 425 yds I can attest that it becomes very unstable past 380 yds and goes all over the place.

[@Kesssuli]

Anything to do with supersonic ammunition to going subsonic in middle of flight ?

[@loganbloom3648]

@@Kesssuli that is my assumption. When the bullet is in the transonic phase it will lose stability. Some calibers/bullet shapes do better than others however.

[@HS-qt3jr]

It's all about truing the BC correctly. And the SD of velocity. As long as you've got a good curve the wind becomes the primary variable. 400 is more then doable 500 is a bit more inconsistent but still not bad at all. Most rimfire match ammo is subsonic and doesn't have issues with the transonic shift. That happens at under 100yards with supers...

[@loganbloom3648]

@@HS-qt3jr so. I have a savage B22 with a vortex diamondback 4-16x44 standar velocity cci. And with it I get very consistent hits at 300 yds, around 380 I can hit 70% of the time (with a bit of wind ~6mph on the day I went) and when I went to 425 it took 28 shots to get 1 hit. And the bullets were landing on a 10' circle all around the target. So it was all luck at that point. Edit: even with a 20moa rail I was out of reticle and elevation to use.

[@ExpatriotSilencers]

@@Kesssuli 22 rimfire at 1200 fps prob goes transonic at about 50 yds. So no, that's not the reason for a loss of stability at 400 yds.

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[@PM-xc8oo]

Good to know that the warnings I got as young Un about the 22 being deadly further out than I could actually hit something were Indeed accurate.

[@purpleYamask]

.22 is nonlethal at any distance if you aim for the foot. Evidence: I took a .22 to the foot from 1.5yd thanks to my cousin ND'ing.

[@ShellShock11C]

I demand details. Lol

[@purpleYamask]

@@ShellShock11C Outdoor range day up in the mountains (I'm from Colorado), bad trigger discipline, teenagers. I was standing to his right, and when he turned to remark to my uncle that he'd hit bullseye, he flagged and popped me. Thankfully, the 2 adults in attendance were a veteran (my dad) and a practical guy with first aid certification (my uncle.) It hit the outermost bone in that foot. I wore a boot for a month while the bone set, pinky toe still doesn't bend all the way... but at least he flagged my foot and not my torso.

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You guys cool now?

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@@jbeef4306 yeah, we were cool pretty quickly since it was an accident. This was also like... 2014?

[@josephbuzzard9360]

When I was in high school a kid and two of his brothers were rabbit hunting with .22s when his brother was shot in the chest and died. The youngest brother who I was friends with (who pulled the trigger) said the bullet ricocheted off a rock on the ground then hit another rock then reflected off a tree then hit his brother in the lung. It was investigated and his story checked out

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[@user-rw6tm8hx4g]

Dude is going through his entire life knowing he killed his brother. Holy shit

[@OhSoddit]

I can believe it. Lifelong shooter myself, I've had 2 experiences of "near misses" from OTHER people using 22's. I heard a neighbour (rural area) blazing away with a semi automatic, thought I'd wander down the hill and take a squiz. Faster than I could react, like a stone skipping across water but 10x faster, I saw the puffs of dirt screaming uphill towards me as a bullet missed my legs by a couple of yards at most. I drove round to abuse the person responsible, and realised they were NOT doing anything I would have considered "really stupid" - just letting their kids shoot up a fencepost well inside their own boundary. Nowhere near my direction, but the bullet had ricocheted off the flat face of a wooden fencepost at a 90 degree angle, then "bounced" its way a good 400m - UPHILL - towards me. "Unexpected" is an understatement. The second close call was so unbelievable I won't mention it. But yeah, 22's can ricochet.

[@sadlerbw9]

Moral of the story: people are, in general, really easy to poke holes in.

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All them spears, bows, crossbows trough the history

[@gratefulguy4130]

Ballistics dummies are *way* easier though. You can do it with a finger.

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@@gratefulguy4130 I dunno, Fist of the North Star made it look pretty easy to poke fingers into people as well!

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Some have holes that are easy to poke.

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[@adamhunt5506]

Hello dr thumb, I’m sure you are aware of the special made hard-cast, penetrator rounds that people carry in their sidearm as protection when hunting in grizzly territory. I know they are made in 10mm and 9mm at least. It would be awesome to see a video analyzing how effect these are compared to standard FMJ! I’ve been told that 10mm is the ultimate grizzly stopping caliber for semi-auto handguns. Thanks for the awesome videos!

[@richarddangles69]

It's been done. Just search it

[@ScottLovenberg]

Long and short, the bear is very angry while killing you.

[@Flarexxxx]

Ill take my chances woth a 45-70 guide gun

[@MB-jg4tr]

Underwood Xtreme Penetrator rounds are decent large animal protection even in 9mm. Of course shot placement is key, but this round has changed the situation about 9mm not being enough against bear.

[@MB-jg4tr]

The majority of 10mm is loaded much below spec these days unfortunately. Some brands like Buffalo Bore & Underwood still load them hot like they should be.

[@DanielSmith-yl7jp]

I love what you do garandthumb but I would really love more 22lr videos it’s such an underestimated round

[@ExileLuciola]

That original LOTR callout @7:29 was both amusing and unexpected and I love how it hung around a while. Well played gents.

[@reimuhakurei2123]

Yes

[@evanburdick8503]

I've always wondered what the story with the "Dangerous up to 1-mile" label that's on every .22LR box, meanwhile absolutely no other cartridge or shotgun shell box has a similar warning (Some have ballistic charts, but no like a "Dangerous up to 5-miles")

[@karatos]

That is because it has been a really common round for about 150 years and also commonly used by children, so way back yonder times some would think it is such a small bullet they could just shoot it up at birds and squirrels and such which, even in trees, often have nothing but air as a backstop, because what could it hurt? As it turns out the answer is 'Everything' and so some started putting a warning on boxes that it is still lethal and still dangerous and you still have to be careful. Only the very rare idiot would launch a 6.5 Creedmoor up at a squirrel, so there has not been a call to remind people on the box.

[@alexithymia6288]

Very perplexing indeed. Shotguns are deadly out to a couple hundred yards with buckshot (low chance that any pellets even connect past that) and longer with a slug if you can make it that far. Any larger rifle calibers are gonna be deadly to pretty much any range due to projectile shape and size, if you can get them out to whatever range that is. If money weren't an issue, I'd love to set up a 30-mile long strip of land with markers every 100yds and just arc the hell out of some big calibers and see where they end up. Since that's not possible for me, maybe I'll try to do the math/physics on maximum flight distance if I get really bored one day lmao

[@thegunlovingcanadian]

Hey that's a good point! I never realized that. No other ammo states dangerous range.

[@karatos]

@@alexithymia6288 most rounds that are military issue or similar have been tested fully, so you can check those reports. Modern rounds sometimes have but it is more difficult to find the info since it is usually a private company doing it instead of a government agency that is required to publish results eventually

[@oaksparoakspar3144]

Probably because it is easy to believe that .22 is too weak - even Garand Thumb thought so in the video above. The sound, recoil, and lag time from shot to contact makes it very easy to underestimate the potential lethality of the .22.

[@duenge]

Years ago, my friend caught what appeared to be a 30 caliber round that twisted into the knit fabric of the stocking cap he was wearing. He did not hear the rifle shot that it came from. What scared him was he was alone, and thought someone smacked him in the back of the hear very hard. Really spooked him, since he was by himself. Took a minute to discover the bullet. This is a no shit story, he still has the cap, with the bullet stuck in the fabric.

[@aaronthompson192]

Where was he when it happened?

[@ShellShock11C]

Duuuude. That's insane.

[@duenge]

@@aaronthompson192 He was at a relatives home in MI, the backyard which abuts farm land, wide open fields...

[@DaveSmith-cp5kj]

I can definitely believe that.

[@aaronthompson192]

@@duenge that is Wild.

[@mcjeepers8025]

Gotta say, I've watched and enjoyed plenty of you videos, but this one nearly killed me with laughter. Excellent job as always gentlemen.

[@isayers123]

Keep up the good work GarandThumb 👍

[@brian0057]

Almost 2 minutes in and Charlie is already killing it.

[@lillekeest1601]

I was on the floor after the SDI sponsorship part XD

[@Glocktard]

He’s simply annoying.

[@lillekeest1601]

@@Glocktard You're annoying. GTFO here. This is the "we love Charlie" zone and you're not welcome here. :(

[@nigeldean3726]

@@Glocktard ok killjoy

[@MrWeirdoh]

"That's a shot to the heart" "But who's to blame?" Underrated line.

[@ZboeC5]

You give love a bad name.

[@Odessa45]

I talked to that dude on the phone once - right as he was becoming a Big Shot. He's a World Class Dickhead lol

[@chux11379]

I love you guys ,you never cease to amaze me🎯🤟

[@hamschh]

Here to look for .22man’s comment

[@FLnative13thGen]

Out in the sticks in the early 80s, as a 12 yr old, my friends and I could buy boxes of 50 .22LR bullets for $2 each at a general store. On the end flap it would say: Range 1.5 miles.

[@JWQweqOPDH]

Someone might have done actual tests for safety, like if you shoot at a bird and miss where will the bullet land

[@mikematerne4579]

I remember some boxes saying Range 2 miles.

[@HoundOfGod]

most modern bullets fired at a 45* angle can and will go miles not including if you're higher up then the impact point. 1.5 miles for safety.

[@thebeastmaster3453]

@@JWQweqOPDH You do not shoot at a bird with standard ammunition, that is just stupid.

[@JWQweqOPDH]

@@thebeastmaster3453 Obviously it would be stupid, but why else would a .22 lr round fly over a mile away? It would be because someone did something stupid.

[@CDCI3]

My grandfather had a story that he was out in the woods when he was younger and felt like he got stung on his shoulder, on his back where he couldn't reach. The spot got more sore and swollen over a few days. Went to doctor, and he popped it like a pimple. Out came a .22 bullet.

[@squidy4082]

Wtffff

[@petermoto409]

Probably a short or a flobert.

[@toxicthereporter515]

I still find it insane that ANYONE could believe ANY ballistics caliber would be less lethal than others. No matter the caliber, it can and will kill if given the opportunity to. Even LTLs like Rubber Slugs and Rubber 'grenades' (fourtyMMs) can kill if misutilised. At the end of the day, it is a solid object travelling at a fast speed. The only question is if your squishy parts can resist it.

[@lileymixed]

people are arguing the speed of the kill to eliminate the threat, pretty surprising how much people can do while heavily injured and running on adrenaline out to hurt you

[@randybugger3006]

Miss Utilized? Insert Idiocracy joke.

[@PlutoTheSynth]

My brother, everything/anything can kill if you use it right

[@Southernvodoo]

It’s not the bullet that kills it’s how fast it moves that kills

[@robertmarley8852]

It's not the bullets that kill .,..it's a man and his will

[@w_stew8912]

The editing on that final shot of the dummy getting murked was brilliant. The music matched up to the shots.

[@timbow1833]

jFK style

[@mr.blonde66milkyway66]

*For $cience!!!!*

[@bce]

Cinematic😔👌

[@N0TZR1]

Yeh that was pretty gnarly

[@markstallman1670]

Had a friend growing up who was shot with a .22 round at unknown distance which struck him in the stomach. He thought he heard a report from far away after being struck. He walked a mile back to his truck. His father was there and drove him at top speed to the hospital where his life was spared. From that day on his nickname became Wolfman because it would take more than a lead bullet to kill him. He was always teased about having two belly buttons.. A true lesson to always have a trauma kit with you especially during hunting season. Thank God his father was there that day!

[@thenadonation2664]

Dude that wrench! You guys are awesome!

[@grimlockarts8386]

Damn, that last 30 seconds is a brutal display of impact energy!

[@thunderring8056]

Literally 15 seconds in and I already love it.

[@RealMTBAddict]

Wow you used the word literally again. Probably your 85th time today.

[@billwood5502]

Just not so cheap anymore as all ammo is not

[@RealMTBAddict]

@@billwood5502 .22lr is cheaper than other popular ammo!

[@billwood5502]

@@RealMTBAddict yes it is, but however, it has still gone up significantly as compared to what it was. 500 rounds at under $10 is now almost $30. I was just merely saying that all ammo is going up and not as cheap as it used to be. All good

[@thunderring8056]

@@RealMTBAddictWow, should I edit it out if it hurts your feelings this much? You ok?

[@oldesertguy9616]

I took a report about 30 years ago. A little girl was sitting on a fence when a .22 hit her leg. Pushed her Levis into her leg, but it didn't puncture the Levis. No shot heard. From a variety of things I came up with the most plausible scenario being someone was probably throwing something in the air and shooting at it. The bullet went up and traveled several hundred yards and came down on the little girl's leg. Just enough velocity to do some damage but not enough to penetrate the denim.

[@Patrick-857]

That's likely what a 1 mile shot with .22 looks like. It was likely carrying about 5 to 7 ft/lbs of energy, which I happen to know won't break through heavier clothing like jeans but can certainly cause injury.

[@unixriver]

This guy is a great shot. The iron sight work was amazing.

[@grantharris467]

I’ve been spending a good bit of my time at the range shooting 400 with CCI standard velocity out of a 455 tacticool. 21 mils with a 100 yd zero. I usually put 10 on the turret and hold off but usually have to shoot at about 3-4 power to use the whole reticle

[@Zairn12345]

CCIs are the only thing that cycles my TEC-22; the old bricks of Remington just don’t have the umph to throw back the slide. I think they were the “CCI Stingers”

[@Piunti_302]

Everybody always highly underestimates the .22

[@johnnyblack6799]

.22 is the round used my hitmen because it's subsonic and easy to suppress.

[@-WhiskeyAndSteel-]

@Johnny Black a .22 subsonic suppressed is the craziest sound I've ever heard. It's almost like you're dry firing the gun.

[@Reth_Hard]

Yeah, people put way too much importance into these stupid numbers. A 22 bullet is not necessarily less dangerous than a 45 or a 50 bullet, just like it probably doesn't mean it's more deadly than 12 or 9. And what those numbers are meaning anyway? Is it the amount of powder inside the bullet or something? I don't think it's really important anyway...

[@rat_king-os2lp]

@@Reth_Hard It is pretty significant. .22 represents the diameter of the bullet in millimeters. a larger bullet is (generally speaking) going to create a larger hole. ofc there are other confounding variables like amount of powder and the length of the barrel of the gun. but size definitely does matter.

[@maninplace5188]

@@rat_king-os2lp To be a smart-ass, .22 is the diameter in inches and is called caliber. After a quick Google search, .22 comes up as 5.6mm on average

[@bloodrune329]

Just to be clear, a collapsed lung will eventually put enough pressure on the other lung to kill you by asphyxiation. That’s if the air doesn’t also travel over to the other side of your chest and collapse the other lung.

[@raymondpoh]

sucking chest wound akin to drowning

[@Yahooligan72]

Thanks Dr Fauci

[@bloodrune329]

@@raymondpoh put an occlusive dressing that valves open, taped on 3 sides. Then get to a hospital, you’re gonna need a chest tube.

[@silentasamouseiaminsideyou6865]

Good to know if I ever get to shoot a .22 👍

[@gigachad6885]

Fauci and his friends would collapse your lungs, but with a different type of shot 💉

[@jakecook4977]

What I am most impressed with isnt the lethality of the 22LR. It is the off hand open sight pinpoint accuracy you have shooting 22LR OFFHAND. Hitting sternum and throat shots. Must have had 0 wind

[@davelees1161]

a lot of people forget .22lr is deadly further than it is viably accurate, good little rounds, i seen someone do the 1" pine board test years ago, they were cutting clear through out at 1400y still. the main issue was that's way further than they were able to accurately shoot, so it was more like indirect fire at that range.

[@OhSoddit]

Not sure about 1" at 1400 yds (Iraqveteran8888 did an extensive pineboard test at various ranges), but 22lr is "potentially" lethal at much greater distance than most would expect. And as for range, "Mark and Sam After Work" had a vid (unless it was faked) getting reasonably consistent hits on a large (yeah, "large") metal plate at 900m. That's a lot further than I would have thought viable, given velocity variations would give a big high / low spread at that range. I myself used to shoot a tree stump at 450m, but I could never "read" the wind - one day I'd be holding 2 feet to the right, another day I might have to hold 6 foot to the left, and I'm stuffed if I could SEE visible indications of what the wind was doing - I'd just walk them in (trial and error) by puffs of dirt. Every different day required a different hold.

[@Patrick-857]

I'm skeptical. At 1400 yards it should only be doing about 9 ft/lbs. Still could be lethal given a lot of different factors, and fairly unlikely, but it wouldn't go through 1" of pine with that energy. At 1000 yards I would say it could go through 1" of pine, because it would still be carrying about 21 ft/lbs of energy, which I would regard as lethal given my experience with airguns of that power level. It depends on a lot of factors though, I don't know what ammunition was used. I have my doubts though, because BC doesn't vary that much in 22lr ammo, and my calculations are based on the very upper level of 22lr velocities available.

[@KadenFinlinson]

It’s a miracle SDI keeps sponsoring the boys with Charlie’s remarks every video 😂😂😂

[@TheSheepDogPatriot1776]

No such thing as bad Publicity!

[@Will-W]

Pretty sure that's WHY they keep doing it. We all think its hilarious and remember them more because of that goofball.

[@Sp00kq]

Probably why they keep at it. Makes it funnier, which is easier for people to remember

[@JeremyMarcum1]

As someone who has vested interest in the public appearance of the company that they work at I agree that SDI probably love it. It makes SDI easily remembered and makes it look like a leading member of the community likes them.

[@Alfs_Armory]

You might think so until you realize they can take a joke. They aren’t some stuck up liberals arts college.

[@adamstilwell2413]

My great uncle died from a 22 bullet that was shot from over a mile away. Some idiot shooting 22s into the air put one right through his heart. He was 17.

[@ShellShock11C]

They catch the retard shooter?

[@adamstilwell2413]

@@ShellShock11C yup. He was a a kid. My great great grandparents never wanted to press charges for it and just wanted the kid to do his best in life and learn from it. I think they kept in contact for a few years too.

[@djsubliminalreeve]

bro the chances of a shot going over a mile and hitting someone in the heart is like 1 in millions and one of those freak accidents that almost sound surreal

[@Kesssuli]

@@djsubliminalreeve In Finland it similiar happened. If i remember it was bit before 2000. Man took a shot to bird in tree and missed. After miss he started walk back to his camp to find out his own brother lying on groud near campfire. Shot trough a heart. It was corfirmed by police investigation that that shot he missed from 3 kilometers away hit his brother and killed him a spot. Also rare case where no charges were applied because someone already had it rough enough.

[@DaveSmith-cp5kj]

@@djsubliminalreeve It has happened several times in California. People shooting guns into the air and then hits someone somewhere across the city. It's very confusing for forensics but they basically assume because the entrance wound was at such a high angle and there wasn't anything tall enough for the shooter to stand on, it had to have been a distant shot.

[@doughnut101]

Bought 2 of the Ballistic Dummy Labs heads because of this channel. Fantastic gel molds. Awaiting my Sicario Mark IV 22 to test suppressed lethality and accuracy.

[@Smarterthanyou-mthrfkr]

My buddy was a sf colonel in Angola and drc, he had an old ruger 10/22, he told me he could do more damage with that than his old dragunov!.

[@SumDude129]

Other tests and yours have basically cemented my opinion that .22lr is still deadly out to ranges where you can't hit shit. Good video

[@GarandThumb]

it blew my mind tbh

[@Isaac_5.56x45]

@@GarandThumb That's what she said.

[@bdkj3e]

I feel like it says "dangerous at 1.5 miles" on the box for a reason, probably found out the hard way.

[@SumDude129]

@@bdkj3e Guess I'm gonna go check some boxes at home later lol

[@ZboeC5]

@@GarandThumb I remember back when I was about 12-13 or so and during my hunter education course for 4H the Conservation Officer had a pretty crazy story about a guy on a riding lawn mower found dead. He had a bullet wound from a .22 that was shot almost a mile away by some kids hunting squirrels in the woods, they were shooting into the tree tops and a round had missed and the dude just happened to be at the wrong place at the wrong time when the bullet came back down. Now I don't know if this was "urban legend" used to scare kids about the danger of firearms or a true story but it seems plausible none the less.

[@w_stew8912]

Lmao Charlie is a national treasure

[@RonJeremy514]

A bit like Macaulay Culkin as Ron Jeremy’s meat shield.

[@destnations5588]

I have not laughed so much at one of your videos until today boys, so good

[@hitman1421]

This channel is pure comedic gold

[@brettash7640]

😂😂😂 the videos have always been good but lord the comedic quality is leaps and bounds better these days

[@TheBigLeeg]

Love that Charles is carrying a huge wrench on a sling. These guys are mastering their unique comedic style and timing.

[@tomvogel492]

Use a 4x8 sheet of gypsum board as your target. That should give you a decent indicator of when it would bounce off someone. Bonus it should be easier to hit from those long ranges.

[@rodonyou]

You guys are awesome 👏👏👏

[@DRUNKASSGAMING]

I'm not the biggest gun nerd but the transformation this channel has had in terms of it's production quality/choices is really inspiring. You guys are doing something truly unique in this space.

[@rickhayes]

Charlie and his SDI flub-ups!! And Kenny...the diversity hire!!?? I'M DEAD!! HA HA HA HA!!!! The beginning of this episode KILLED!! Another great job guys!! Keep em coming and Happy 2023!!

[@willbaur1191]

Dear doctor, please help me, my hearings damaged. I didn't wear my ear plugs when I should. I liked to hear, the 20mm casings, ringing off the deck but now my hearing is fkd. Missed all the dialogue, please doc, bring back the captions

[@roninsghost108]

God damn Charlie's fuck up was priceless in this. He's gonna have to try hard to top that throughout the year

[@cattlecreekphotographybyto8954]

I was shot at near point blank range from a 22 hollow point in the arm. The bullet hit dead center of the bone, and then shattered, parts of the bullet went all the way through, and I actually entered into the skin of my stomach. In the x-ray a half inch of my bone was disintegrated.

[@isaaccutlip5815]

I'm saving up for a stainless steel 10-22 and I'm going to use it for fun, home defense, hunting and shtf

[@rosskendall22]

Sadly, when I was in college in the 70’s, we had a kid killed while watching a lacrosse match. The shot came from a middle school kid, almost a half a mile away, shooting birds out of his bedroom window. I am sure that it a was parabolic flight path…..but fatal nonetheless.

[@Dinjur]

Damn thats some rotten luck.

[@DonutVIP]

Ever hear a 22 crack after passing thru a target? Sounds super scary, small target practice, using cci stinger, and segments hp mini mag, every shot that goes thru the tree will sound like a loud crack, also heard it ricochet after messing around shooting small target, heard the ricochet up towards a hill and impact, yeah never underestimate a 22

[@owensthilaire8189]

Fweeet!! That's the noise I heard the two times I was shot at by a .22. Once deliberately. Once by mistake.

[@vendretyvangarde7383]

Never shot one at a target but there was the one time at Walmart...

[@yotasavage]

Man I love this channel 😂

[@45johngalt]

Charles is a gem and I think I'm internally bleeding after trying to hold in so many laughs in the first 1:17

[@wampastompa28]

I just love how the lab coat gets every bit bloodier with each episode

[@Orgelfan62]

Looks like Heinz Doofenschmirts from Phineas and Pherb

[@AlexA-ef9tb]

“I’m the diversity hire” I felt that on a personal level.

[@wukilla8ee]

"Hi im Kenny & im the diversity hire" scene cut!!! Lmfao 🤣😆

[@Somegoy]

The robo cop esqe ending for the dummy was great too!

[@LordOceanus]

If nothing else this is an excellent demonstration on why a larger heavier round is best for longer range shots.

[@GarandThumb]

100% true

[@shoua7]

Love the .22lr caliber, just a fun and cheap round to shoot. 👍

[@andrew9371]

lol it looks and sounds like a bb gun

[@enzocostaalexandre9915]

@@andrew9371 depending in your country (or state) the less "scary" your gun the better

[@thomasgellos1732]

Prices doubled since 2019

[@jonathanhoup9988]

@@thomasgellos1732 about 7 cents a round currently. 10cents for good stuff

[@vincentbadalamenti727]

I just discovered this channel and I feel like I uncovered buried treasure. Subbed after 5 mins.

[@Rickmon01]

My favorite part of this is just Charlie’s randomness throughout the whole thing 😂.

[@theap0killyp1k2]

This might be the most based science videos I've ever seen.

[@LIONTAMER3D]

It's "basted"

[@bsidymotgan3504]

Amazing right!

[@RudiLV]

And your assesment one of the most stupid!

[@ALDAVISON231]

Charlie was on point on this episode. I watched him introduce SDI 5 times. Nicely done Gentlemen.

[@asidAttack]

Literally the best advertisement skit. I watched it multiple times laughing

[@rodrigocovas]

@@asidAttack so did I

[@tedlava]

Same here!! He was so funny this episode!

[@thehunterslane]

Hahahah, another great video. Informative and hilarious.

[@JonathanErber]

So when does the 🔧 get involved? 😂 I love you guys' humor! Lol Keep it coming. I have it on good authority that this is so entertaining.

[@roseblite6449]

.22 can kill at that range IF you can hit the target (no spoilers how far they took this). A bit surprising, but not totally shocking either.

[@_Delta_P_]

May want to give this a watch... not hard to hit if you know what you are doing. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpCofoxtm695osU

[@nanaki-seto]

A .22 requires good shot placement i would not want to use it for self-defense though not as a main gun as a backup sure or a toss in my glove box and forget till needed gun yep any day of the week For something to just pick up and plink um yeh no question at all 22 is one of the most fun guns you can have honestly The Israelis used .22s to lets just say get even after the Olympics attack in 72 10 round mag loaded with 8 to save on the spring ...

[@fakecubed]

@@nanaki-seto .22 LRs are good offensive weapons, not good defensive weapons. If you need to survive long term, a suppressed 10/22 is a great choice. You can hunt with that and easily have enough ammo with you to last the rest of your life. And if you need to use it against a human in some kind of ambush where they don't see you coming you could do that too (but pretty stupid to be going around deliberately killing people in a SHTF situation anyway, people should be grouping up as there's strength in numbers, not being lone wolves). A .22 LR is practically the last thing you'd want to use in an actual gunfight. Unless you're a very good/lucky shot under stress, you're simply not going to be able to stop the fight quickly enough.

[@505fastlife6]

@@fakecubed I agree but someone I know dropped two dudes dead pretty much instantly that where trying to rob him with a 25.

[@fakecubed]

@@505fastlife6 That can happen with the right shot placement but it’s not something I’d count on happening.

[@kirkmorrison6131]

Back in the 1960s when I was a kid a guy was killed squirrel hunting at almost a mile with a 22 .

[@andreivaldez2929]

Seems legit.

[@kirkmorrison6131]

@@andreivaldez2929 It is it was in all the local papers and news for a few days, the sheriff decided it was an accidental shooting

[@junioraltamontent.7582]

That's a pretty impressive shot for a squirrel to make.

[@TheMan21892]

That’s one eagle-eyed squirrel

[@kmieciu4ever]

@@junioraltamontent.7582 They made a movie about it, the squirrel was played by Mark Wahlberg kzbin.info/www/bejne/jpPTfH1_hr14q7s

[@joshuarupert4579]

That was the first thing I was thinking with a t-shirt that one of these would be going in as far

[@randycolwell5575]

These guys are fantastic

[@lelandf1043]

There is something that is incredibly scary about that little bullet quietly flying into the target

[@alexithymia6288]

Yeah at 100yds with a good suppressor you probably wouldn't hear enough of the sound to realize it was a gun firing. Ninja caliber for sure. Think it was on an episode of NCIS where the killer was a woman who seduced sailors and proceeded to kill them with a suppressed .22 pistol so that their bodies wouldn't be found for a few days as nobody around the area heard a gunshot.

[@HeartPumper]

@@alexithymia6288 yep, that one🧜‍♀️