How Fast Are Drift Cars?

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#drift #drifting #cars

[@zenandtheartofskateboarding]

100+ mph entry is insane

[@alligatorninja5263]

ikr right 100mph op time to slide. I would end it all right there im sure

[@Weeblicker]

Not to mention you get someone like Chelsea throwing backies on that entry.

[@Tdogob]

Done it on gravel in an f250 once... scariest thing I've ever done and 100% would not reccomend😆 was one wrong move away from either wiping out or flipping very very violently the whole time

[@bigdfitness5020]

Chris Forsberg hit a 150mph+ entry at Atlanta, not during competition. I think it was a Gridlife event

[@MurphysLawNZ]

D1NZ used to have a round at a track called pukekohe and the entry's for t1 were 220kph as standard but heard as high as 235kph which equates to 147 mph

[@AtroxSM]

It’s more the fact that high horsepower cars allow for more mistakes than lower horsepower cars

[@hellbent650]

The cope is strong in you...

[@David-kl7to]

@@hellbent650Its funny how I can tell that you are both broke and not a drifter from that comment. Anyone with even a couple runs if experience will confirm what he said is true.

[@FinnishPotatoBob]

And, they are not really drifting. I’d say that’s preatty forward powersliding.

[@ismapoli8072]

❤❤❤❤❤

[@hellbent650]

@@David-kl7to go drift ur 1985 toyota corolla, weeabo.

[@ys987yy8]

High hp helps maintaining the drift easier but it also is a crutch for some bad drifters who can't do it on underpowered cars.. This is why tsuchiya is a pioneer and legend.

[@NicoTheAnimal]

If you can drift well with high hp then how does that make you bad?

[@ys987yy8]

@@NicoTheAnimal go watch grassroots drifting and you will see what i mean

[@Zootopia96]

@@NicoTheAnimalHe didn’t say that, but the horsepower you have the more mistakes you can mask.

[@NicoTheAnimal]

@@Zootopia96with that thinking you are a bad driver if your car is good?

[@bass2762]

@@NicoTheAnimalHe didn't say that high hp drift car = bad driver. He said that high hp drift cars will make it very hard to drift for bad drivers.

[@Beansisbestlol]

Bro sounded like linus tech tips at first and I was like hold up…

[@N3rdburgring]

To me it’s like traditional racing, slower cars just make for more competitive and intense racing. The highest levels of Motorsport are always done in the fastest cars but if you watch an mx5 cup or btcc race it’s more action than you get in a full year of formula 1. I feel the same about drifting, as someone who was at the original fd irwindale I still think that was the prime era of the sport. So many of the cars were so unique for those early years too

[@omito1198]

Us drifters blamed for high horsepower cars its not true. Bro 2 seconds later ur talking about 1300 hp. That is a high af horsepower car what u on bro😂😂

[@emmyheights5033]

W**d

[@muaminhugsy4964]

I think people forget that making power reliably is getting easier (relatively) than it was 20 years ago and tech to make said power on the same platforms has come a long way, but blaming people is always fun I guess 😂

[@thesambehindtheslaughter8843]

Yeah but drifting started as just simple mods and just skill, its easy as hell to get into drifting now which is awesome but drifting definitely was cooler when it was just starting out and when anything past 300 was fast as fuck

[@jacobsuppliesthegeckos]

Hard to move to fast forward when you’re alway hitting corner sideways…

[@Johnny_Cage_Official]

I mean, 1400 HP HOONICORN

[@Hashiriya086]

Meanwhile people with 180hp were doing 90 mph entries back in the 90s… old school low hp drift cars > todays high hp drift cars any day

[@hugo-pg5tv]

So why do tvose drivers suck now?

[@Hashiriya086]

@@hugo-pg5tv those drivers still kick ass idfk what ur talking about.

[@hugo-pg5tv]

@@Hashiriya086 oh really? They wouldn't do shit in these competitions. There is way less risk drifting in a low hp car. Also what dude did entries as 90mph back then? Give actual proof.

[@Hashiriya086]

@@hugo-pg5tv katsuhiro ueo. Literally look up old drift tengoku videos and you’ll see that those drivers are way better than any modern formula drift competitor could ever dream of being.

[@Hashiriya086]

@@hugo-pg5tv based on this comment I can tell you’re either a 12 year old who’s never even sat in a drift car or you’re a 16 year old who thinks that you need over 700hp to do anything. Literally ask anyone who actually drifts, and they’ll tell you low hp is way harder than high hp

[@kevinjohnson9579]

Not true?! Yet say 1300hp cars when japan was using 180hp for street drifting and 600hp was crazy power for team orange in D1

[@henzelnicholas5614]

Bro its literaly a formula drift just see formula 1 as a drift car they are very fast dum guy😂

[@saintspeedpreem6546]

Wisconsin mentioned 🗣🗣🔥🔥

[@thanebrehmer124]

GET THAT MAN A BEER

[@deevizm8035]

I remember watching D1GP back in the day and 400ps was considered high horsepower. Imo the new 1000+hp cars these days aren’t as fun to watch because they mask errors with power.

[@danielbaugher1798]

yeah 400hp was alot......24 years ago

[@raiduh899]

Ever since I was a kid I found these drift missiles from formula drift a little off putting. If you go back to initial D, or watch old videos of the drift king at ebisu then you see that there's quite a bit of elegance to their drift as they shift the weight of the car and slide, applying power as they leave the corner. These cars always feel like they're doing a powerslide. More akin to gymkhana, more Ken block's style.

[@Shhh_Diam]

Yup 💯 those Japanese OG drifter definitely put style in drifting. I really love seeing those old drifting videos .And they don't need to put much throttle to initiate the slide. Slow and steady

[@goat.ong.]

no chance u comparing this to an anime 💀 i just know u don’t shower much

[@raiduh899]

@@goat.ong. I'm not though, I'm just referring to that time period. Lookup Keiichi Tsuchiya at ebisu aka the drift king. That's what I think of when I imagine drifting. I'm just saying this is more like powersliding like in the gymkhana discipline.

[@kannabixe]

check out @runningfree86 old school drift style

[@jamesmccomb9525]

​@@goat.ong.There's no shortage of real life Touge drift videos from the 90's and early 2000's that show a similarity to the anime initial d. The show isn't perfectly accurate, but it's earned it's respect in the car community for a reason.

[@riley2133]

I've seen FD at Road Atlanta twice now, it's an absolutely incredible experience and I would recommend you to go to one, there is nothing quite like it.

[@OscarSturgess]

I still like to drift with 170hp lol, it's a workout for the left foot yes, but it's me putting in the work high horsepower is still hard yes, but when I can break traction with one lil clutch pump in 3rd it feels like cheating usually work goes into it is all i dont judge if people like more power though, especially where 170 is quite low 300 is good

[@AndorRadnai]

I would still try to get into FD with a Twingo… The RR layout makes for a great drift car with as little modification as installing an off-Switch plus software to the Traction Control system. But I would be curious as to how much more it would take to make it into the series.

[@myrmeko]

Good luck with that engine... It really likes to break. They made the stupid mistake to replace the good ol' reliable with some modern Renault shit. It's neither the good engines Twingo or Smart ForTwo/ForFour had so far. (Current Twingo and Smarts are the same car.) If you can get some forged pistons and rods for another engine to fit in your Twingo, go for it. It would probably get up to, like 200HP, maybe. The biggest problem is the open deck block. You'd need to get a custom block guard made specificaly for your engine. Then it would most likely go to 300+ just fine. (Of course with ARP bolts everywhere.) Idk about the transmission, but it should take that little power, right?

[@MiGujack3]

@@myrmeko Busa swap, solved.

[@JasonSchumer]

So cool to see my video in this short! I’ve been playing Torque Drift since 2020 😁🤙

[@bussin_buses]

I prefer driving slow (and I mean slow) cars fast.

[@stutterpunk9573]

same, in my car 11.7 0-60 is actually fun

[@jackson22668]

*happy 86 noises*

[@stutterpunk9573]

@@jackson22668 *happy '86 745 noises*

[@bussin_buses]

@@jackson22668 I mean I prefer American cars, but I guess, yeah.

[@stutterpunk9573]

@@bussin_buses for me, as long as it's rwd

[@Drake45100]

Most pro-drift cars are around 750 to 1000 hp and they need them because these rear wheels still need to push the car foward even if it's sliding

[@adreaspolentas6160]

Daigo Saito Laughing entries at 230kmh

[@Wildtamson]

They are designed to keep those tires spinning I’m sure they can all mostly do 120-140 140 on the higher end

[@austinlarson6945]

chris forsberg had a 150mph entry during grid life at road Atlanta

[@rayco473]

My neighbor odi races in fd and he's taken his car up to the feal suspension shop where I live and it's nuts

[@nicholasthoms9521]

Come to New Zealands pukekohe the sweeper there has 200kmh entry. It's mental

[@lewisgilbertson7506]

Saw them at long beach and noise is insaneeee

[@U.S_Drifter]

I heard my username, and looked dead at my phone.

[@unbreakabull175]

Bruh allat while not having grip at all is insanity

[@bukafm]

It's not exactly about entry speed, everyone can drag race. More acceleration allows you to carry less speed through the corners if your trajectory is bad. Also gives you more angle at higher speeds. Cars in Russian Drift Series have 800-900hp on average (and most powerful is 1360hp on engine), and on some circuits initiations are 100mph+. Circuits are pretty technical, so almost any mistake is critical. My point is: yes, it's easier to drift high hp car, but it doesn't matter if configurations are designed to push pilots to their limits even with this much power. But of course it makes harder for new people to start participating competitively. The middle ground is to limit tire width, taking a bit away from eye candy.

[@crouchie-03]

High horsepower, more wheel spin = more control of speed without gripping up (to put it simply)

[@Driftjp]

Mostly 70mph speeds entries go up to 110 or 120 if you have the space and width of the track but otherwise they don't go fast when sideways.

[@gavinmullet688]

First clip is Gingerman Raveway in south haven Michigan, my local track

[@cryptoa.o8919]

Never seen this channel and thought this was Linus Tech TipsZ

[@iansoaresdosantos7199]

I believe it’s a battle of what tires are the best to get the fastests grip on the highest horsepower as possible That’s the capital logic to follow on

[@BadWallaby]

Horsepower just makes the wheels go brr

[@cryololphosaurus]

Dude, I also use the e36 as a drift car but in assoluto racing

[@shingosshojiopoulos6608]

The problem is that this kind of "drifting"(its not real drifting) spread outside of the US to Europe , where drifting was more similar to Japanese drifting , and then to Japan and Asia as a whole Its not a coincidence that the lower powered classes are also the most fun to watch

[@jaredevers6459]

I agree the long corners isn’t really indicative of skill to me. Not to mention they’re running way too much hp for my liking. The way I see it if you can’t drift in a 500hp car then you don’t belong in a drift car.

[@scoobsshrooms109]

It is drifting. You are a spectator, you have no right to call someone’s hard work, skill, and dedication to a craft “fake”. People like you are what make the car community toxic and terrible for people that try to get into it, really gatekeeping being a poor drifter is fuckin stupid

[@dooby1445]

@@jaredevers6459Who says these PROFESSIONAL drifters can’t drift amazingly in a 500hp car? Why is everyone acting like modern drivers aren’t great at their craft and a random 90s Japanese dude in a 140hp shitbox is better? Let’s stop being delusional here. If the league regulated the max horsepower, then these guys would still be killing it.

[@mroversteer3739]

Nah

[@scoobsshrooms109]

@@dooby1445 because they are insecure about their shitboxes

[@AlexanderScarlett-uq8eo]

I think the other thing with American pro drift cars is that it’s so optimised without any aesthetic detail, that’s why everyone pines over the older d1gp and d1 street class cars because if it looked cool, they did it, even if it would’ve been easier with an uglier setup.

[@joshuawalker5044]

FD THIS WEEKEND 🙌

[@Ashton556]

My neighbors actually at an FD event as part of a crew for one of the drivers that’s one of his buddies. I wish I knew the drivers name.

[@jdmitchellguy401]

Driftmaster says, "Hold my beer 🍺 (pretty much European drift series)

[@BrenLR]

WISCONSIN!

[@vijeeyv9551]

It not really about how fast u can go or how good your car look with expensive Widebody/turning, and it more to how good you can do it and make your drift more authentic and smooth.

[@552jacki3]

Guys it's not about how much HP you prefer to drift at. We're taking about how much HP is needed in FD.

[@adammcclimans1666]

Let's go wisco! 608!!!

[@teewrecks5661]

It is true. You don't need 1000hp to drift fast

[@anwarbader1157]

How is it not true?! 🤣🤣

[@TakeNoShift]

European Drift Masters cars are less regulated than FD cars, from my memory, having much more grip and power, faster than FD.

[@LootLordProductions]

I asked Matt Field how fast they could go given the right gearing, he replied and said up to 180 mph. Video is still up, so the comment is still somewhere on his channel.

[@cameronwilson4886]

700hp max battles are better and it will lower the cost of entry thus bringing more competition and growth to drifting

[@dooby1445]

I’d agree with this. The difference in cost between 700hp and 1300hp is MASSIVE.

[@tripwire3992]

Japanese and irish D1 cars are completely batshit insane

[@Ryzard]

People proclaiming that the us/whoever ruined drifting with high hp are missing clearly modified japanese drifters for ages. People always want more power, it's the instinct of most car guys, and humans in general.

[@melle1996meijer]

It is true Americans believe that they need atleast 500hp to drift but here in Europe all you need is 120hp and a healthy dose of skill and a bit of a deathwise

[@dwilson2548]

500 horsepower drift cars commonly enter at 100 to 120 and thunderhill raceway California. Sonoma raceway if they're doing turns two three they enter 80 to 100 mph and when there's the Winter jam and they go into the u-turn backwards they're entering that at 100 mi an hour. 😎

[@MMOchAForPrez]

Crazy that they got rid of FD Dallas and they still have UTAH and STL 😂😂

[@doriftoc_man934]

It’s extremely true up until the beginning of usD1 the average professional drift car around the world was between 400-600bhp but Americans started the game by competing with more then 1000hp drift cars, this is the resound many USA pro drifters struggle to drift or compete in lower basic cars. Don’t get me wrong I’m not hating America joining the D1 has been amazing as we now have readily available drift parts at affordable prices for many chassis

[@mmaayyssoonn8858]

Not sure where you're finding those stats because pre 2012 no one had much more than 500~ HP, guys were still running basic turbo kits on SRs until Daigo Saito from Japan came with a mega lightweight car and 1300hp and super sticky tires. He walked over the competition and the only way to compete was to match his car.

[@doriftoc_man934]

@@mmaayyssoonn8858 I think you answered your own question there mate

[@dancho0012]

So it is true

[@nicholasb4140]

Wonder what the speed is for E Town

[@clutch3shot]

Something about a low hp drift is just so saucy.

[@nakeddrifter4685]

US drifting is 100% to blame for drift cars needing to be $100,000+ builds to compete. I was a drifter in 2011 and all i needed was an r31 2 door powered by an RB20 with a 25 turbo and a set of injectors and i could have been compedative. Today, i have a half tube chassis 180sx with a built RB20, radium fuel cell, $10,000 worth of suspension components, $10,000 worth of gearbox and clutch, custom tailshaft, electric power steering ect ect ect and my car is no where near the highest spec'd car even in my area.

[@purehonda23]

He'll yeah Wisconsin

[@OskarasNauseda]

daigo is to blame for high powerd drift cars in usa with his 1k hp. chaser? he brought to fd

[@nkill6]

That car was so ground breaking that year the Achilles radial tire sc Toyota Sorar 1100 horsepower 2JZ with a 60° big angle kit

[@randofacts13]

THERES A FD AT SAINT LOUIS

[@purplepigeon3826]

Why do these fd car have to have such high hp then? What happened to good old fd before it got ran through by corpo rules

[@YEETFOREVER555]

All torque drift players can understand

[@123baalbaki4]

GO fast

[@DragonXoz]

They can hit like 180-190 if they got anything near 1.3k hp. Especially since they are weightless cause they gutted. Tbh a 1300 hp bmw that’s gutted should be able to hit 220-230mph with right tires. Now it might crash cause it’s super light and drag but I get it can get up there

[@boy-who-likes-bats]

i don't think fd should go away, people will always push the limits of what can be done, and purpose built machines like these explore that. but a grassroots league with more popularity would be cool

[@nino3613]

US actually is to blame, most the tracks here require a lot of power to carry the drift

[@Bushboys4]

I mite have actually sat in the mustang at the start of the viedo I have a picture there extreme close only differents pretty much is the back bumper the one I sat in did not have one but I thank he just took it off cause one picture he has it on and the other he doesn’t

[@rachelpurity1]

Bro said it's not true that the insane hp drift cars originated from the US but provides no reason or alternative whatsoever.

[@matthewlui1004]

It can go as fast as the tyres degrade

[@jc0326]

FD is the reason for the HP. New venues changed the scene for drifting because they brought in tracks with big banks and the cars at the time couldnt do the banks. The next year all the big sponsorship drivers were running 200-300hp more than every else and the power race began. And weve been sitting at 1000hp ever since. So yes 100% US FD fault. Anyone thats followed FD from the beginning can tell you that shit. I miss the 500-600hp days. So many better battles than today.

[@geepersoilyrag1884]

Exactly!!!!!!

[@mmaayyssoonn8858]

You blame the US but the Japanese drifter Daigo Saito was the sole reason for the shift back in 2012. He came into competition with a super light car with 1300hp. No one could keep pace. He forced the competition to elevate their level.

[@jc0326]

@mmaayyssoonn8858 the power problem was already around when diago showed up, and then did it better than everyone else and won that year. When diago showed up in the FD scene it forced drivers to get better with the big power. The good old sideways drag racing Era of FD.

[@mmaayyssoonn8858]

@@jc0326 the year before Daijiro won the championship with 500, taka aano was 400ish, the only guys pushing more than 600 range and doing anything were a couple of the falken tire guys. Most japanese people were running the same amount around that period. The biggest difference would've been the amount of engine swaps in the US

[@Marc-zi4vg]

if you think about it, drift cars are essentially tarmac sprint cars

[@oscargustafson9140]

Driftmasters>Formulad

[@16BitOG]

why don't they do what real racing does and have different classes with different hp restrictions. i feel like that would open up the sport to a lot of people and draw in new crowds

[@jamin63]

fkin fast

[@sergev7828]

105mph entry speed, then spinning the tires, what mph is that wheelspeed?

[@andymac6280]

Look at adam lz and james dean mondello park Ireland

[@BazelButcher-kq1lx]

Yes, I was eaten by one of these cars once. it was fun, but I don’t recommend it☹️

[@Bilbobaggins82242]

The power makes up for lack of skill

[@zmurl4352]

Did bro just totally dodge the whole question?

[@princes9178]

why does he sound like linus tech tips

[@chrisstockton7153]

But what is their wheel speed?

[@voodooactual8053]

First world accepted American drift car was a Mustang. May he rest in peace. If you don’t know, look him up. Give him the respect he deserves and take the time.

[@shepherdrm8486]

Geeee ofc they sound like that considering most only have 4 gears...holy talk about a lack of research

[@blueonblueracingnova]

105 mph entry or the wheels are spinning at 105 mph?

[@killerknight2oI9]

How much do they get paid cause to be honest I want to be in FD

[@L86END]

1300hp?? Japan only uses 600-700hp on average

[@MRworldEtIkA]

so high horsepower engine times by low gear ratio = how much is the wheel horsepower i wonder

[@clutchbleach2057]

It's mostly because a high horse power car is easier in every way to drift. Basically, pay to win, but irl and for drift

[@1990japcars]

That yellow and black mustang my boyfriend drifted with them My boyfriend is professional

[@IAmSkyrider]

Play this guys voice next to linus' from linus tech tips. I dare you to find the difference.... I'll wait

[@robertwolfe409]

Has he ever drifted against Mike Essa?

[@julianuga]

1300hp?! So more power than f1? Maybe not better at finesse. I'd like to see this car and Aston Martin's FI team go at it

[@corvettezone1771]

honestly idc how much horsepower someone uses. If it looks cool, then I think it’s cool.

[@carlpepin1]

"American are to blame for high horsepower cars in drifting" cue Daigo Saito showing with a 1200 HP car in 2012 when the average was about 700 HP lol

[@billmanbillman7894]

But what’s the wheel speed???

[@enigmaficate]

Long story short. If you wana go 175+, just regear it

[@roxasparks]

" Why would you build fast car to go slow?" (Some racer guy or whatever)

[@lol_russ]

Why dont drift events have classes that seperate cars by HP or budget?