How fast do guests walk in Roller Coaster Tycoon 2?

[@cirrusm.2829]

"The steroids at First Aid Room 2 is very good value"

[@blackpulsarproductionofficial]

First Aid room 2 looks too intence to me

[@LeventDV]

This comment is gold.

[@DarkOmegaMK2]

"The drugs from Shady Guy 7 is very good value"

[@ninjawafflezz5356]

@@DarkOmegaMK2 I spent all my money on Shady Guy 44's Strange Rock's already! >:(

[@digi3218]

The girls at Pole Dancers 1 is very bad value.

[@FIamestalker]

You're a cruel man for not giving Henry and Tess a bench to sit on after the race

[@AlryFireBlade]

yeah, like that is the worst thing that Guests will face in his parks xD

[@MarcelVos]

@Highly Caffienated Engineer Damn I didn't catch that, I suppose I paused the game a little too early on the recording of Henry's race.

[@darknessblades]

@@MarcelVos Maybe they become faster if you incite them to sit or to go to the toilet? or to the exit? Many Many variables are missing.

[@MarcelVos]

@@darknessblades I did test almost all of the possible missing variables and found that they did nothing. I should have said that in the video, but I did not forget about them.

[@darknessblades]

@@MarcelVos Thank you for the info. Was thinking a toilet might have incited the peeps to go faster when sick. but this seems like it is not the case

[@alZiiHardstylez]

Never trusted Hamburger Stand 1, I'm glad they're being called out. Doing God's work, Marcel.

[@darcyfoster6298]

Never mind that - have you seen what they put in the lemonade?

[@SupersuMC]

Forget the lemonade. I trust the coffee like I trust a cat, as in not at all. I'll have my pick-me-up at home, thank you.

[@argentpuck]

First sign should've been that they refer to their meat as "flesh."

[@Bacony_Cakes]

Heh, wait 'till you see the "Croctails" they have over at the water park.

[@Trelior]

I dunno what y'all are complaining about. The burger I had there was perfectly fi-- _Guest Trelior M. vomits violently_ Fine! Just let me drink my lemonade in peace! Why does this taste like piss?

[@MarcelVos]

A lot of people asking about guests that need to go to the bathroom. They do have a different walking animation but their speed doesn't change. Edit: A lot of people are asking about max energy/max nausea. It wasn't in the race but I did mention it later in the video. Guests with max nausea walk twice as slow as guests with min nausea as max nausea/max energy guests walk at about 9 km/h.

[@itscs1175]

Did you make a Minecraft reference for poor Tess?

[@11chuckles1]

What about if they are going up/down a sloped path?

[@quinlanroche342]

Have you thought of racing guests against coasters going exactly 12 mph with a flat lifthill chain set to 12 mph? this might get you a more accurate general speed

[@midtop8185]

No max energy max nausea (im malding about that) but still a good viedo

[@wildgoosespeeder]

What about guests holding something? I noticed that food or drinks tend to have guests walk slower.

[@Hermaphroditious]

I was *really* hoping Tess would throw up at the end. it would have been the best comedic timing.

[@PhoenixRoseYT]

Hermaphroditious or during and then they turn around 😂

[@midnight3018]

I have to wonder if it took multiple attempts to record that segment because the sick person kept throwing up mid-race

[@James-eg3fr]

KEKW.

[@BorisLordOfAcorns]

Dina practicing for the now postponed 2021 Summer Olympics

[@SupersuMC]

Boris Plague Inc Evolved predicted the future!

[@DatMageDoe]

Isn't walk speed affected by whether or not the guest is holding a food item too?

[@MarcelVos]

I just tested this and you're right, but not always. They do slow down when they are energized while they're holding food, but their speed doesn't seem to be able to drop below the speed of a guest with the minimum energy.

[@drumanddrummer465]

“I’m not going on Wooden Roller Coaster 1 while there’s an Olympic marathon happening here.”

[@BecauseWeAre]

Now i want to know if the rollercoaster speeds are actually accurate according to this conclusion, might be an interesting video.

[@lorddenti958]

I think this is a great idea! :)

[@MaxArceus]

However..! A day in RCT is 10 seconds, while real life days are 24 hours. So while to us they may walk the distance in mere seconds, up to just over a minute, to them it takes them far longer! Therefore, they walk at speeds of: 1.7 m/h | 44 cm/h | 22 cm/h 2.2 m/h | 59 cm/h | 29 cm/h Truly ghastly slow Edit: Turns out, I somehow ffd up the numbers, updated them to be accurate now.

[@serraramayfield9230]

Okay, that's gameplay/story segregation

[@MaxArceus]

@@serraramayfield9230 It was a joke :p

[@dmas7749]

was gonna bring this up actually

[@Supertimegamingify]

The days are ten seconds because the planet spins FAST. Boom, debunked.

[@raynishijima3589]

Hi excuse my dumb brain but can you show me the calculations for this? I'm not getting your numbers and it's driving me crazy

[@sirrliv]

You're really developing in your presentation style, maintaining your usual professional analytical style but now getting more free to be silly with your style. I love it. Bravo, sir.

[@bonecanoe86]

I know it's not RCT2 but back in the 90s there was this MSDos game called Theme Park where you could place a coffee shop, set the caffeine level to maximum, and watch the guests ZOOM around your park at a million miles an hour!

[@jasa_m7990]

4:37 proof that we are all just very tired

[@DoritoTime]

So does this mean we solve all the world's problems from a few rides on Wooden Roller Coaster 1?

[@BrandonBeanland]

@@DoritoTimewell, it sure seems like it

[@waabmigizi7369]

We’re too productive, making us tired. So we should just kill all the rich people so we are less productive and less tired. Problem solved

[@FerreTrip]

After this virus stuff, yeah, we ARE all very tired.

[@willho4540]

Man, I wonder if Chris Sawyer ever thought this out.

[@Cryster99]

probably not to this degree lol. Dividing the walk speed in half when sick was probably an active choice, but since all of it scales, they likely just put it in based on %. In terms of the default energized walk speed, it was probably just a design choice of "how quickly do we want guests to be able to traverse the park so that players dont have to wait around forever for them to get to rides?" It's definitely scaled back in RCT3, where guests slowly tromp through your park even at full energy

[@HeliosExeunt]

The guests unlearned common sense and swimming to walk as fast as they do. The additional brainpower makes them more efficient with the walk cycle, utilising only the absolute minimum force needed to raise their foot, move it forwards, and plant it on the ground. It also means their footwear never wears out from the forces of gravity because they have calculated the optimum way to use them.

[@Hiandbye95]

In real life I'm Dina, and I'm always being held up by a bunch of Henrys and Tesses.

[@Cryster99]

literal same. long legs will do that lmao

[@AlecMader]

I'm finna *n y o o m* while these bastards are just meandering along...

[@stevenschiro1838]

This is the sports we need during this time. Marcel you could be an announcer. Great style

[@wherethetatosat]

"Getting really close aaand..." SPONTANEOUS COMBUSTION? There was no spontaneous combustion.

[@melpopovich565]

The little profiles on each "runner" had me howling omg

[@Jacob-hq2vb]

Dang, everyone knows not to go to Hamburger stand 1, Hamburger stand 3 for life

[@zalybrainlessgenius503]

I love that you don't know the difference between "flesh" and "meat" - implying that the hamburger stand sells HUMAN FLESH

[@bee-yq3wb]

Human flesh is exactly what my mind jumped to

[@VictorPenteado]

Marcel, I missed you. Keep yourself and your family safe, mate.

[@sanderbos4243]

And what about the 4th combination; maximum energy & maximum nausea? Glad to see you make RCT2 content again, Marcel! Greetings, Amsterdam.

[@DatMageDoe]

He does touch up on that, and basically says, like the minimum energy, their walking speed is divided by 2 at maximum nausea.

[@Naftoreiclag]

Thanks, I was wondering why all my guests were walking at 1.9 km/h.

[@SendyTheEndless]

I'm still just here to look at these dope parks in the background!

[@helloitismetomato]

"they need more time to complete the track, which is understandable as they haven't slept in DAYS and are EXHAUSTED" Marcel, I think there should be a TV show where you are a diabolical park owner who toys with the lives of guests, who are unable to leave

[@kanonnen9]

How fast can they go with the Michael Schumacher cheat? It says It can increase the speed x4. Does this mean that the max speed is around 76 kmh?

[@b-chroniumproductions3177]

Pretty sure that cheat is only for karts

[@SupersuMC]

@@b-chroniumproductions3177 Yeah, it is.

[@ProductBasement]

"It's like the guests get their energy by drinking pure steriods" - Marcel Vos

[@IsabellaDehnel2389]

Lol

[@PimpMasterT]

I couldn't help but laugh so hard when you were introducing the guests, lmao.

[@Dzingzing]

This is one of the greatest videos i have ever experienced

[@LudusMachinae]

thank you for translating the numbers to mph, really helped me understand the speeds dealt with

[@Trancefreak12]

This reminds me of one of the Lego Rock Raiders tutorial missions. The rock raiders are put on 3 different types of terrain and race each other.

[@Cryster99]

classic game. I never got to beat it cuz my file was corrupted. It would always crash on one of the ice missions :((

[@WereDictionary]

I used to live RCT/2 when I was 13ish but I never got into game mechanics. An unspecified amount of years later, Im finding this bro here who sounds and plays like he's got it all figured out and offers his wisdom with the maximum amount of wholesome dedication and does really in-depth videos on topics I (as a filthy casual) never even considered. Keep on geeking out, dude.

[@chasespadavecchia6407]

I'd like some more details about Hamburger Stand 1 please haha. Great video!

[@tomt.8387]

Guests also fall from height according to their walking speed. They will fall slower if they are tired. Glad to see you're back, it's been a while since your last video.

[@abag0fchips]

But you calculated the speeds using realtime and not game time. I want to know how fast they are going in the world they live in!

[@zaxtonhong3958]

Because time in RCT passes much much faster than IRL, it will take much longer for them to reach the goal, meaning they move much slower. Rounding distances to 4 meters and 12 ft, the fastest guest would move at 0.00276 kph (0.00157 mph). That's about 2.76 meters every hour. The slowest guest would move at 0.000367 kph (0.000208 mph). That's about 36.7 cm every hour.

[@The_Bird_Bird_Harder]

@@zaxtonhong3958 Jeez

[@PaulCashman]

"Hamburger Stand 1 looks too nauseating for me."

[@MSB_Rich]

I love these kinds of videos where you compare RCT to real life stats, like the g-force video, keep it up!

[@Dante-ob5mh]

Lmfao the mental image of them sprinting around the park makes me happy

[@st32050axr]

Mr Vos is asking the real questions

[@slayer7160]

Idk why, but when he pulled up the little race I lost it. Something about being some rando being chosen by god to run a race strikes me as hilarious. This channel is a gem, seriously thank you!

[@Verlisify]

I like the idea behind this video

[@RinnyThePrincess]

I like the idea of you shutting the fuck up

[@ZealanTanner]

The guest race was hilarious

[@rubenvanbelzen1217]

just one question: when guests have like 1/3 or 1/2 of the nausea bar filled, will the guest with 1/3 walk faster than the 1/2?

[@MiguelRPD]

Weight savings bro

[@MarcelVos]

The higher their nausea is, the slower they will walk. Both nausea and energy are a sliding scale depending on the exact level.

[@lukestevens9375]

@@MarcelVos Is it a linear scale or do you get diminishing returns at you approach max energy / min nausea?

[@florianplack2973]

Dina running off, away from the other two participants is so funny to me 😂 I had to laugh so much

[@d947]

I love how you keep finding details to talk about!

[@rublie1426]

Thanks for the video! I would have liked for you to go in depth on the speed on stairs as well with vertical speed and such. Maybe an idea for another video!

[@bonnome2]

Literally a day past in game. They walk extremely slowly!

[@tacticability521]

Between vandals being able to karate chop stone benches in half and guests being able to effortlessly sprint faster than a Benz Velo, I'm both terrified and relieved that we are yet to see their full potential.

[@Tmccreight25Gaming]

This Crack Cocaine from Crack Cocaine Stand 1 is very good value!

[@chandir7752]

Tess P. is a hero... Even when she's as sick as it gets she'll keep smiling. Truely inspirational

[@chimeforest]

What if the RCT2 numbers are accurate, and everyone irl walks slow because we're just so tired all the time...

[@danielbakergill]

This is the mysterious Runner from Civ 6 they're always talking about! The new update will be a RTC/Civ crossover!!

[@Martijnvdputten]

Great video, I really love your scientific-ish RCT2 content

[@technoandrew]

This gave me a good chuckle. :D

[@Simon-ow6td]

Fun computation and video! I desperately wanted a forth runner with max energy and max nausia.

[@perks6292]

I want to go on something more thrilling than Tired Puke Race 1

[@mibars]

Guest: "Preferred intensity: Less than 14" Also guest: "Everything over 10 is not interesting"

[@ByTalo]

I think the most impressive part of the video is how Tess managed to walk 10 tiles without vomiting

[@MarcelVos]

That took more than 1 take! I initially wanted the guests to walk 100 tiles for more precise measurements but I quickly found out that Tess could not manage anything even close to that without vomiting.

[@Templarfreak]

3:27 Much more complicated and convoluted route, but here is how you would get your much more consistent result: 1. We are told how fast roller coasters are actually going, and we can know exactly how fast they are going even at very specific points of its track. 2. We can convert how fast a roller coaster is going into *pixels* moved per *frame.* Getting how many pixels it moves over a given time period of say, a minute, is probably going to be the hardest part, but it should in theory be very consistent. As in, a Rollercoaster that goes twice as fast as another should cover the same distance in half the time. Note that you would have to account for a rollercoaster's acceleration and deceleration as well. We want the pixel distance it covers in say 1 second _being at it's top speed the entire time._ 3. We can get the amount of pixels moved per frame the guests are walking. 4. We can then convert the amount of pixels guests moved per frame to kph/mph by using the information gathered from roller coasters. A guest that say moves 1,000 pixels per second at 60FPS would be moving at the same kph/mph that a rollercoaster that covers 1,000 pixels per second says it's moving at in kph/mph. Extracting the graphics from the game, a tile is 32x15. From the top-left side to the bottom-right side, and from the bottom-left side to the top-right side, a tile, considering only the part of the 32x15 graphic the tile actually covers, is 11 pixels across from any point to any point along its edges, not corners. From corners to corners, the tile does stretch the entire 32x15. (like this: imgur.com/a/xIcErF5 ). For anyone else willing to go nuts and do the painstaking process of pixel measurements ingame, there's your starting point. Yes I know that the ingame measurements are not super tightly accurate to real life, but hey, we've already established a baseline that at best fully-energized and non-nauseous guests are marathon sprinting all over your park. :D Also if you _do_ do the painstaking process of gathering the information and doing the calculations let me know what you find!

[@Stevenzao]

I'm a simple man: I see Marcel Vos, I click.

[@lukestevens9375]

How about a third measurement for tile size as a tiebreaker: lateral acceleration. If you make a regular right turn at 30 kph, then the expected lateral g's are 2.24 g if the tile size is 3.16 m or only 1.67 g if the tile size is 4.25 m. If you use the same 30 kph speed, then the radius is 7.079 / lateral g's.

[@Trancefreak12]

That won't work in rct because real acceleration around a curve scales with the square of speed, but rct makes it scale linearly with speed. So you will get different results depending on the speed.

[@Trancefreak12]

Another way might be to time something like a chairlift with known speed across some tiles.

[@nabill454]

"I feel very sick" ~ Tess P.

[@bryceb3194]

“Very tired guests are walking at speed most people actually walk at” - sounds like they replicated reality perfectly

[@Orbytum]

Minimum energy and minimum nausea being normal walking speed was an outstanding move by the devs, reflecting real life very accurately

[@caleb7612]

I like to imagine going to an amusement park and seeing half of the people sprinting the entire time

[@bigcat5348]

Tbh nausea should have the opposite effect. Being about to puke can give you an incredible burst of adrenaline

[@Trancefreak12]

Guests do get tired when they're hungry, so they can't keep up that marathon pace forever unless they eat.

[@RoshFragger]

Haha, love the content amigo!! Stay safe

[@nonsaline]

Based on this video and my actual walking speeds I've learned that I'm going through life with minimum nausea and almost minimum energy.

[@PadChennington]

sitting inside eatin a peanut butter sandwich watching Dina M., Henry P. and Tess P. race.. life is good

[@TheL0rd0fSpace]

I wish we could've had a "high energy, high nausea" guest as well, to see which causes the greater loss.

[@FoXMaSteR001]

Actually you have to consider the time of the game, 1s in the game is actually faster than of real life second, if one hour is a year it means that time runs 8760x faster than real life, so if a guest takes 30s to cross this distance you have to multiple 30 by 8760 it means he took 73 hours to do it... it's a snail. Not sure about my maths, actually overthinking this :o

[@tappajaav]

And that's precisely why gametime is not considered.

[@Filipolis]

Still remember one of the first times playing this game and thinking, why are those guests running so quickly :D

[@johnfoltz8183]

Guest 3452 is lost and can't find the park exit.

[@AlecMader]

guest with Max Energy and Min Nausea: *n y o o m* guest with Min Energy and Max Nausea: The bastard in front of you when you're trying to get somewhere.

[@isaacfrohlich4575]

Love the videos! Could we get a hypercoaster review sometime? I love it's high passenger capacity

[@mrrhombus716]

Marcel, your intro is so consistent you sound like a foreign text to speech. Love the vids.

[@Kebein.]

sooo theyre not running around because theyre excited to see my amazing park? :(

[@warmCabin]

Funny story: I did similar math for classic Mega Man, based on pixels, tiles, and his canonical height. Same thing: he's an Olympic marathon runner. Even if you scale his speed down to standard walking speed, btw, he he still zips at like 200 mph

[@TheTerroristModz]

Yay new marcel video :D Edit: This video is actually fucking hilarious. Thank you very much for your content.

[@her_meme]

i love your videos so much

[@SteffidelaM]

I didnt know I needed to know this. Thank you

[@alansmithee419]

1:42 Thank you so much for not saying "milliseconds"

[@MoldyPond]

Great video but it doesn’t factor in that one day in-game is about 5-15 seconds long IRL, so by real world standards the guests are actually slower than slugs :)

[@lisalamb5955]

MoldyPond or they could be on a planet that rotates quicker

[@21smac30]

What's Netherlands for perfectly, hilariously, informativest video? Zeitgeist?

[@Andrew-fz8uf]

I always thought it was influenced by their toilet level too - if they're desperate for the toilet, don't they walk very quickly?

[@rct2nerd]

I wish I could run this fast whenever I'm at an amusement park!

[@stornschure2024]

How about to make it even faster, toilet and energy.

[@quillllly]

Say it with me everyone. "Why was I not notified about the upload?"

[@jonnnnniej]

Yes, same! It only now popped up in my recommendations.. With this whole pandemic I need me some Marcel Vos!

[@rhandhom1]

Please upvote this so Marcel Vos can see if you like my idea. Thanks. @Marcel Vos Please consider making a COVID-19 inspired park where guests practice proper social distancing (6 feet apart) and wearing the closest thing to masks that you can come up with.

[@WhatAreColors]

Hey, great job! Thank you for showing this, I don't think anybody ever talks about this like you do. It's great! Great job! I keep seeing guests with hanging heads when I play. Is it diifferent? Also, I see some guests get tired faster than others. Some have so much power, they can last for a very long time without food, drinks etc. I'd also like to hear about the way guests recover on benches and what happens if guest walk up slopes. I love to hear your talk about my favorite game so thank you.

[@bknwuzheer1]

amazing race commentary

[@TheBN1soldier]

In the original Theme Park game I remember putting max caffeine in the coffee shop and guests would sprint around the park.

[@Deurklink]

I was waiting for Tess to throw up :)

[@flauschi9187]

I like the fact that tess took 4 days to complete, I would have died already if either starvation or Thirstyness

[@digitalizedmind6784]

Plot twist: the people in the RCT2 universe are all caffeine addicts and drink stalls actually sell energy drinks

[@ruediix]

Good reason to keep benches around your park. Also, this probably means I shouldn't be putting all my insane rides in one area and all the gentle rides in another.

[@systetemicvirus729]

There was some rotten flesh in his burger! Wow is that a Minecraft reference? It was hilarious and confusing when he said that!

[@lemagreengreen]

Tess P is an enigma. Maximum happiness, maximum nausea. Hamburger Stand 1 needs to be investigated