HOW FAST is NEXT GEN 3D Printing? 247zero revisited!

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I printed a 3DBenchy world record in 2021 and I did up to 1000 mm/s printing.
My famous Voron 0/Zero aka 247zero is crazy fast and it’s been a while...
Now, it’s time to revisited and to review that beast of a 3D printer!
Why did I choose those upgrades? How fast is it really at quality printing?
What needs to be improved in order to go even faster?
Is that really "Next Gen FDM printing" in comparison to a Prusa MK3, BIQU Hurakan, Voron2.4, Voron 0.1, Bambu Lab X1 Carbon and FLSUN V400?
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0:00 Intro
0:43 Sponsor
1:19 247zero recap
3:27 Motion Mods
5:43 Extrusion Mods
7:47 Part Cooling: 247ESPC
9:09 Performance Test
13:08 Tradeoffs and Outlook
15:54 Outro/Bloopers
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[@HardCoil]

Thanks for you fantastic work. You allow part time tinkerers like me to follow a few footsteps behind so much easier.

[@247printing]

Thank you so much for these words - they mean a lot to me !

[@ModBotArmy]

Great video. This little beast still blows my mind. From my years of printers at 500 acceleration and 50-60mm/s print time it is taking me some time to push them haha. Perhaps this will be the year I won’t take it so east on the printers. Looking forward to seeing your next version 😊

[@247printing]

Hey Dan, thanks a lot! I'd love to see you getting into the speed stuff... I mean.. You have great printers for that!

[@alejandroperez5368]

You can't print much faster than that if you need durable functional parts. The faster you print, the weaker the parts. No one seems to mention this.

[@muhukujin]

Tolle Arbeit und es ist echt Klasse, dass es so Leute wie dich gibt, die die Grenzen der aktuellen Technik weiter ausloten. Ich denke in dem Design ist noch viel Potenzial, wie eine Carbon X-Achse oder CNC gefräste X-Achse (siehe VZ-Bot), hochsetzen (bzw. Mittig der X-Achse ausrichten) und abstützen des Hotends um die Hebelwirkung und Schwingungen weiter zu reduzieren, Versteifung des Rahmens mit einer vorderen Querstrebe (abnehmbar/Klappbar), Wandbefestigung des Druckers, große Radiallüfter statt der pabst Lüfter für mehr Druck bei niedrigerer Lärmbelästigung oder Ansaugschalldämpfer für die Pabst Lüfter, Abstützung oder Führung des Druckbetts an der Vorderseite, Doppelter Bowden Extruder für mehr Kontaktfläche. Es gibt noch andere Themen aber dann wird es schon recht komplex. Viel Erfolg noch :)

[@MatrixRay19]

I honestly hope you analyze reworking the frame, even if it's just to add an extrusion in the front, FailFast has found that doing that alone helps a lot. My other take would be to go fully unsupported rail but really stiff AB joints, that would maybe prevent torsion better.

[@ferdinandhenkel4567]

Maybe also rebuild with 2020 extrusions?

[@MatrixRay19]

@@ferdinandhenkel4567 why stop at 2020, go bigger :P

[@247printing]

I totally agree!

[@ferdinandhenkel4567]

@@MatrixRay19 pretty sure 2020 is enough. Voron 2.4 s use it, which move heavier toolhead and have a way larger frame. 3030 seems overkill

[@MatrixRay19]

@@ferdinandhenkel4567 I agree, said it mostly as a joke. I do however think that maybe also adding more extrusions, at mid sections could help as well.

[@360worldviews4]

Nice job ! I like the first version of this printer looking forward to see the upgrades!

[@brandonb6164]

Very cool work. Good luck on your project. I'm very excited about the next episode.

[@curiouscatlabincgetsworrie7755]

Seeing my printer of choice the FLSUN v400 as a runner up under this conditions is kind of inspiring. And so far it's been behaving flawlessly. Now I need to tune it properly to have it keep working not this fast but consistently and reliably fast. And I'm not is such a hurry, after all. Also it's comparably much less noisy than any of this.

[@MandicReally]

Another excellent video Albert! Love to see the progress. Gives me dangerous ideas for my projects...

[@247printing]

Thanks a lot Alan! Can't wait to see your dangerous ideas!

[@mistaecco]

Absolutely insane. Mad science-style. I like it. Makes me wonder how much air drag you're getting on those fins, though. I look forward to updates!

[@nightfighter78]

Hello, first time on your channel. You have very well edited videos and especially good information on your videos. I have to say, this is the good stuff concerning 3d printing. Thumbs up !

[@plixplux]

The filament must flow! Great vid as always =))) Really, really looking forward to finding out about the changes to the design in the next!

[@247printing]

THANKS a lot!

[@Kosh42EFG]

Best video yet. Personally printing fast benchie shaped objects isn't for me (but congrats on that silly fast time) so this one digging in to the how to take that and apply to real world printing is more up my street.

[@247printing]

Thanks a lot! Yes that benchy speedprinting is kind of special, but in the end: It was the enabler for this channel!

[@75echo]

Nicely done mate, nice video. its hard these days to find proper scientific youtube channels that are not that sensationalised or drama driven just for views.

[@Ataraxia_Atom]

I just got a new extruder for my FL sun to try and dial up my print speed. Love the content

[@lausi772]

I absolutely loved this video!!!! Thanks for sharing your expertise 🤓🤓🤓🤓 this was so well explained. 👍

[@247printing]

Thanks a lot Lausi!

[@deathlyarrow264]

Can wait to see the next part,

[@eurosat7]

Sehr schön. Es macht mir echt Spaß zu sehen, wie du die Sachen optimierst.Mal sehen wie weit du kommst :D

[@Lucas_sGarage]

I remember when your channel just had started, I'm glad to see you grow, my friend

[@247printing]

Thanks a lot my friend - always a pleasure to read you!

[@ThatGuy-fi9bm]

Excited to see what next! Break the barriers!

[@TrailFeatures]

Excited to see what’s next!

[@boryshacker]

i can hear the passion in every word! well done! kinda curious if a cross gantry v0 can go faster...

[@247printing]

Thanks a lot!!! I need to build one this year for sure!

[@spaghootus9473]

Have you considered placing the hotend fan on an external frame above the printer and piping the air to the nozzle through some form of lightweight tube? It would get rid of a few extra grams and also allow you to use a more powerful fan. As for the tube: There might be lightweight fabrics available on the market that can be used to sew an airduct.

[@thelightspeed3d712]

Love this channel man. So good.

[@247printing]

Thanks a lot mate! Nice to see you again!

[@erikmoore7402]

Wow. Just started 3d printing.... sooo this blows my mind lol. Nice work

[@247printing]

I hope that's the start of a nice passion and more for you!

[@apaskiewicz]

Brother, your channel is so legit. I'm really glad you started it. I have learned so much from you in a few videos, so keep spittin that fire! ❤‍🔥❤‍🔥🔥🔥

[@247printing]

THX !

[@Serhat_aydin]

For the ones whose hearing Uzy for the first time; it has been more than a month I've been using. Never had any issues; had perfect prints so far. Give it a chance and you will never regret👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@247printing]

I was skeptical, but I tested it beforehand and it's great! Even though it's an paid advertisement and I am the one who was paid: Yes, it's just good.

[@josephbroughton7931]

Absolutely incredible!

[@grabler20]

i want to give this more than just one thumbs up! good stuff! keept it up:) Servus

[@247printing]

Oh man, thank you so much!

[@dmitrii6550]

PC's usually use larger diameter fans to quite them down which could be a solution for static fans. As for warping: when pushing things to the extreme, probably a thorough air flow simulation and optimization is required to better target the printed layer without cooling a big chung of the part(which is hard work but could have high benefits). Also the gantry could be made from 2 carbon fiber tubes with linear rail attached to them to increase stiffness (i don't think it will increase the weight of the gantry)

[@LowellAndersonJ]

Heck yea! Great job so far! How can you go faster? Custom extrusion nozzle with integrated compressed air cooling powered by a vortex cooler, and of course linear motors instead of rotary motors, with sprockets and belts.

[@sosaysthecaptain5580]

Beautiful piece of kit

[@Higlac89]

Just want to say that I like how the print in the bottom left of the intro matches the beat of the music.

[@247printing]

You have a very good eye for that - I like editing to music a lot!

[@naidta9802]

Wohooo can't wait for the next part 👏👏👏👏👏

[@alainthire]

Absolutely amazing video!

[@247printing]

Hey Alain, thanks a lot! See you on Twitter ;-)

[@hunter-ie8mv]

For the torsion aspect I would recomand printing it with channels and adding materials later on such as carbon fiber sheets. This could have drastic efeect on stiffness while still being relatively cheap to do.

[@graysonsmith7031]

I'm convinced the next way to increase printing speed is to move both the nozzle and bed in opposing directions (dual corexy). Ideally the ratio of travel of both the nozzle and bed would be such that their momentums cancel out (i.e. if the bed was 2x the mass of the nozzle head then the bed would travel half the distance and thus the speed in the opposite direction of the nozzle head) and ideally the nozzle weight and bed weight would be the same (assuming they're already as light as possible). For the same effective printing speed you could halve the acceleration/speed the motors need to create while also cancelling out vibrations from the printer throwing itself around (equal and opposing momentum would meant the rig is stationary). For the same acceleration per motor you would double the speed. Just hope for good bed adhesion if the ratios work out that your bed needs to move more.

[@oliverer3]

Turn your bed slinger into a bed railgun!

[@SianaGearz]

Wtf. Just put the printer on some bearings and mount it with soft rubber bands on all corners. Then it will do just that mass balanced moves and return to centre at moderate speed acceleration such as not to run away. But you don't want to introduce more movement axis than necessary into the actual mechanism since they'll all add tolerance play and distortion and these will all add up.

[@oliverer3]

@@SianaGearz I feel like it would be difficult to prevent that from sometimes causing resonant oscillation given the highly dynamic nature of 3D printer acceleration and forces.

[@hazonku]

This thing is becoming a monster. Can't wait to see what you come up with for the torsion issue.

[@247printing]

Thank you! - that's maybe the most interesting part I have for that!

[@KlaudiusL]

Absolutely insane .. you've gained a subscriber 👍

[@247printing]

Thanks a lot!

[@tagzedawg]

I understood...some of that. BUT it's still pretty amazing and I'm looking forward to these advances trickling down to hobbyists like me!

[@3wakingd3ad]

Love your dedication to insane print times AND quality. Weird questions have you experimented with something like air assist on laser cutters? A pump instead of fans?

[@mistaecco]

Bowden fans?? I like it!!

[@PrintingPerspective]

From an enthusiast standpoint, this is so amazing, I love that the fans alone draw 150W ;D and you need hearing protection! But it must be so much FUN to design, test, and push beyond the limits :)

[@247printing]

Thanks a lot and oh yes: It was a lot of fun work in 2021 - unfortunately I didn't have as much time as I wanted for the stuff, but it works anyways :-)

[@surronzak8154]

At a certain point the air pushed on the part will be the limiting factor ^^ , imagine you need so much cooling power your extruded line gets pushed away befor it cools and attach to the previous line Xp

[@lop0159]

That is actually sick!

[@Jan-pz5ox]

i can't wait to see the next upgrade video. ;-)

[@JoeyBlogs007]

Useful information. Thanks.

[@SirHackaL0t.]

Reminds me of Titans of CNC for speed. I never knew that 3D printers could go this fast! Awesome.

[@JamieHarveyJr]

The Phaetus Rapido UHF with a Bondtech CHT volcano nozzle has been VERY good at balancing quality and flow for my rigs👍🏻 (0.4mm btw)

[@leonartou]

Yep, Ive seen people do like 70mm³/s flow on it.

[@AwaywithCharles]

Great content! I love your approach and to topics discussed. Have you looked into hybrid extruders? I have a Nimble Giddy on order that I am excited to give a go and is looking like a viable option from the herera!

[@247printing]

Thanks a lot! I'll check that out - sounds very interesting!

[@HeymynameisMitch]

geiler überblick, danke dir

[@HeymynameisMitch]

btw, wieso nicht mit einem kompressor und zuleitung lüften?

[@Tankbrusher]

Inhaltlich hab ich genau das gesucht! Danke Dir. Hab grad zwei last Gen Drucker ,,geklippert" und mit tmc2208/9 bestückt. Beide laufen leise und gut, jedoch gedeckelt durch die Creality Hot Ends auf 10mm³/s. Wenn ich den Flaschenhals entferne, hat ein CoreXY noch immer einen rund 30% Geschwindigkeitsvorteil.

[@247printing]

Danke dir! Schau dir evtl auch mein “How fast is Klipper really?” Video an - ggf ist das auch interessant für dich

[@thebigb1286]

Just some thoughts on your upgrades. For the air flow, you could use some pneumatic tubes coming in the top like you're wires. You can blow air in it to get the airflow, with less power and noise, and about the same weight. Triangle Labs makes the Rapido Hot end which they say will go up to 75mm3/s. This seems like BS, but if it's not, there you go. You can make the frame more stiff with carbon fiber parts, they make race cars that can do similar things to what your looking for all the time, or you could use a very interesting material: Boron fiber. It's stronger, stiffer, and cheaper, but more delicate than CF. Boron Fiber is twice the stiffness of steel and light weight too. It would be interesting to see. Either way I think you'll get the stiffness you want.

[@sabinespeed4146]

I would think an airbrush compressor would be enough flow as well as being reasonably quiet.

[@a_pullin]

Add compound angles to the cooling duct setup, leverage vorticity to make an upwards cooling tornado, up and out of the machine.

[@Creative_Electronics]

Very nice video as always ;)

[@247printing]

Thanks a lot for your nice comment as always :-D

[@ThePosticeage]

The frame mounted part cooling is a very cool idea. Can save weight for fans and wirings, even mounting bolts. You could find a way to receive supplied air more effectively and to control air speed based on the head acceleration. Air speed may have to be controled too according to required cooling for varying melt volume. Keep it up!!!

[@247printing]

Nice idea! I'll keep that in mind 👍

[@Grimmwoldds]

@@247printing Have you considered also replacing your delta fans with Artic S4028-6K fans in that configuration? If you can get them in a 5 pack, they're about 40 USD on amazon(which is far less than those deltas cost). They're the same dimensions and type of fan as those deltas, but far far far lower RPM(and therefore lower noise, amperage, air flow volume/static pressure), Since they're that same dimensions and they're normal 4 pin/12V fans, they should be a drop in replacement to lower everything down to "sufficient and not requiring hearing protection nor a second mortgage."

[@ItsNonyaBusiness]

With so much cooling and such printing speed, layer adhesion surely suffers. I'd love to see strength test comparisons between fast and slow prints! Keep it up 💪💪💪

[@daliasprints9798]

It doesn't. If you have poor layer adhesion from speed/cooling it means your temperature is too low - either the base temp or from cooling hitting the nozzle and making a big temp gradient between it and the thermistor. Better shields/socks that insulate the nozzle almost all the way to the tip will solve the latter.

[@247printing]

I'd also love to see that once and for all! I bet CNC Kitchen will do this some day

[@alejandroperez5368]

@@daliasprints9798It does matter. The faster you print, the worse is layer adhesion. CNC Kitchen did make a video about explaining how cooling affects it. Since printing faster requires more cooling, guess you can only print decorative toys at those speeds.

[@daliasprints9798]

@@alejandroperez5368 You can keep citing the results of someone who's smart but knows virtually nothing about fast printing, or ask people who actually know this stuff. It's just not his area of expertise or interest.

[@ItsNonyaBusiness]

From a quick search online some tests show better layer adhesion with speed and some show the opposite. Seems like as with most things this matter is situation dependent (your specific printer/filament/settings)... Another good reason to build a test rig and start doing my own research! 😉

[@settlece]

very nice work

[@TheMuaddibdune]

I just LOVE the way you pronounce the Huracan!

[@247printing]

Oh thank you! As it's related to Lamborghini somehow (design comes from there), I thought it would be clever to pronounce it like this :-D Don't know it's right though...

[@graahbrains]

And here I was happy my SV05 does 80mm/s out of the box.

[@av2245]

Awesome work! I love to see people pushing the boundaries of 3d printing. Although it is fast, I think you will always run into the limitations of physics and the fluid dynamics of the material. This is a great example of quality vs quantity. If you are looking for precise prints that require engineering quality and need to have tight tolerances and integrity, fast printing just doesnt seem to work. Even if you tightened the frame up to be as solid as possible, I dont think the quality would ever compare to something printed slow. I have yet to see the quality of a fast print compare to a slow print.

[@daliasprints9798]

You should look at Annex Engineering printers which are contrary to basically everything you just said.

[@Nici619]

Immer weiter so. Dieser Kanal ist ein kleines Einhorn. Bin selbst gerade dabei einen Ender 2 Pro so sehr auszureizen wie möglich

[@247printing]

Danke! Viel Spaß mit deinem Ender 3 pro (?) !

[@AnYaDang]

I have an idea for you. Instead of reducing your mass - triple it. But triple it with counterweights you accelerate in the opposite direction of the tool head to cancel out the X and Y forces.

[@DanteTheWhite]

Splendid video!

[@247printing]

THANKS a lot!

[@MrDarkdrago74]

Impressive, i like the real calculation behind a 3D printer. I love your design and the test of Stephane. I'm looking forward to your next upgrades and designs. M4 voron extruder is not good enough ? just wondering. cheers!

[@247printing]

Thanks man! The M4 looks very good, yes - didn't have the opportunity (and parts) in order to build it yet.

[@mikejones-vd3fg]

Very cool, you should check out the solid state cooling they've showed off at CES, literally no moving parts , would bring down printing head weight a ton and with its super fast jetstream of air offer way better cooling, which could I bet almost double printing speeds of todays printers while maintaing the same quality. Just guessing but these coolers seem next gen ,and like every video suggests, cooling is still a huge obstacle for printing speed, its the main one in computing speed, hence the motivation for these coolers , they can apparently give 15-25w laptop cpus another 5-10w of heard room which is pretty remarkable, doing with less power and less form factor too. Someone needs to put one of these on an Ender asap, Frore Systems is the company and i seen the video from PCWorld's channel covering CES from a few days ago. It looks like a flat lithium battery that sucks air in from one side and blow it at high speeds out the other. Many "vibrating membranes" at supersonic speeds are responsible for this when voltage is applied is basically how it works.

[@Nelo390]

That did have moving parts, but yeah, could be helpful.

[@247printing]

THANK YOU! Saved your great comment for further investigation!

[@jippo91]

That speed is insane🤙 have you considered making some sort of bed for the printer frame? I think that bolting the printer on a stone slab would reduce the frame vibrations. But then again you would also make the hard stops of the printing head more violent when there is no play between the printer and the the table🤔 In theory you could allso build a gyroscopic platform that moves to counter the forces of the printing head. You could just reverse the g code that you are printing and program some servo motors to create countering forces via mechanized platform between the printer and the table. The same way car manufacturers use counter weighted axles on car engines to counter the forces of the rotating pistons, rods and crankshaft.

[@Bennyco86]

Another banger! I often use you as the bible for speed prinint on V0 lol. BTW I have designed / remixed Auxilary part cooling fans for the common 5015 blowers that could be kept inside the encloser (will provide lower amount of cooling but can keep it enclosed this way with still decent results) when I have it on a place I'm happy with will share the STL / STEP files :)

[@247printing]

Hey man, thanks a lot - very cool! Would you mind to contact me on Discord? My server is in the video description. Maybe strong 5015 are enough - let's hope so...

[@Thor_Asgard_]

My x1 carbon blows my mind every day... i really started to use my prusas much less, as the x1 is just so fast and comfy to use :) I love my 2 mk3s's but the x1 is another kind of beast.

[@WF3D]

This thing is a best. Awesome what you accomplished and curious what you will achieve

[@247printing]

Servus Werner, thanks a lot for stopping by and leaving a comment 😍

[@WF3D]

@@247printing Sure thing! Btw I ment *beast 😁

[@247printing]

@@WF3D got it 👍

[@Nordern]

They are currently difficult to get ahold of, but there are CHT volcano nozzles in existence, i'm not sure if they are significantly better than the volcano adapter though Is there any ceramic heater like the Rapido's that allows a full lenght Volcano nozzle to fit in it? Been thinking about getting one but want to be able to push as much filament as possible with it

[@247printing]

The rapido UHF supports (CHT) volcano nozzles, yes!

[@alexfish8926]

now imagine you had two of these, one upside down, printing onto the same base from opposite sides to halve the print time, maybe with a thin filament sheet as a base plate to allow for a cohesive print.

[@247printing]

That sounds SUPER EXCITING, because... I happen to have there of them :-)

[@antronk]

Build a vzBot!

[@247printing]

Some day I NEED to! Maybe >this< Next Gen is even four times faster?

[@bleach_drink_me]

You should build a vzbot.

[@ryangamble5131]

@@247printing I'd love to see you build the VZ kit from mellow! This video was fantastic as well.

[@Basement_CNC]

​@@247printing ido t know if a annex engineering k3 would be faster tan the vzBot or a v0.2, since its built like a TANK , althoug its not the lightest printhead 😮 and its quite unknown bist du österreicher ?? der abspann verrät einiges 😂

[@stefanrussi6408]

Very nice work! What about channeling air inside a tube and blow it directly where its needed (like the bowdentubes for the filament but maybe bigger) instead of blowing air all over the plane? This makes the head maybe even lighter and the air could be cooled down with a liquid cooling system and a radiator or with peltier elements... just a thought

[@MrBigbofy]

Very Good Idea, very good Proposal, it should be brought to Reality

[@tonykyle2655]

ty for the video and valuable information.

[@247printing]

Thank YOU for watching and your comment!

[@wilurbean]

you know, if you had two steppers at each point, and they spun in opposite directions (like with a gear or something to compensate for direction), you would have a lot less resonance. The opposing motions would cancel forces and keep them from going into the frame.

[@hd-be7di]

Yep that's a "4WD" setup on fast CoreXY printers like the VzBot

[@bootlegcaesar7481]

Bolting the frame securely to a some type of surfac plate and stiffening up the frame could yield some great improvements to quality

[@bob_mosavo]

Awesome! Thanks 😁

[@247printing]

Thank YOU!

[@bzqp2]

I haven't been so excited with DIY printers since the RepRap times. Voron is a beast!

[@247printing]

Great to hear 🤩

[@LucasModelrailroad]

Hi, eine sehr schöne Entwicklung deines Druckers!!!! Ich freue mich schon auf die Upgrades und kommenden Videos :) Viele Grüße/ Luca

[@247printing]

Hey Luca, vielen Dank! Freut mich sehr wieder von dir zu lesen 🥰

[@LucasModelrailroad]

@@247printing Hi Albert, ja ich habe in letzter Zeit viel zu tun gehabt, auch mit der Schule ect... Deine Videos habe ich natürlich die ganze Zeit angeschaut! 😁 Ich habe ja auch mal gedacht einen Voron 0.0 zu bauen, war mir da immer unschlüssig. Aber als du deine Dateien veröffentlicht hast war das anders! Ich habe mir die STLs schon runter geladen und dir auch Trinkgeld da gelassen. Mach weiter so mit deinem Content 🙋‍♂️ Viele Grüße/ Luca 🤗

[@247printing]

Mega cool, danke dir! Bin gespannt was rauskommt bei dir!

[@LucasModelrailroad]

@@247printing Gerne und danke!

[@NeoIsrafil]

Have you tried the new marlin input shaping stuff that let's the system calculate and counter resonance? Seems like at these speeds it could help!

[@OtherTNSEE]

Another way to reduce weight, take a look at Frore Systems AirJets. You can probably look their CES demo up here on youtube. Crazy small, and way quieter, while still putting out some serious CFM.

[@sixstringstruggle6508]

CNC kitchen showed and induction heating hot end in a recent video from a 3 D printing convention that you should look into.

[@247printing]

I am in contact 👍

[@jtoddaffiliates]

This is insane!

[@Simofailla]

it would be interesting to think of a printer with the speed of this one but also with the table moving in the opposite direction so as to add inverse speed

[@xx1219]

Hold up that’s a genius idea, has anyone done it before?

[@ovDarkness]

That's great video! I wonder, how those hobbyist machines compare to proffesional level machines.

[@skybloo16]

two things come to mind. slicing optimization and balancing forces. opposing counterweight system maybe if you want to get really overkill with it

[@NeoAcheron]

YAY! I'm in the video! Your videos inspired me to also take part in the race!

[@247printing]

YAYYY! That's great to read - keep it up!

[@juraji0]

I'm not sure this would be completely workable , potential idea though , because you typically print very fast you always use the part cooling fan and because of that you should be able to get rid of the heatbreak fan and just redirect a bit of the part cooling flow up through the heat break. 😉 You will have to completely redesign the tool head but it should save you another 20 grams or maybe more ...

[@NikolaTesla-lw1iu]

you can maybe add closed loop driver boards to force the printer in a more "stable mode"

[@b-roll4881]

I am in the process of spending way too much on a Artillery sidewinder x1. But I am doing it because it is fun. Just like your 3min benchy its totally impractical but its projects like this that improves this industry the most. Making another bedslinger clone in a different color is not advancement. I look forward to your next gen. project. I would love to discuss with you some of my thoughts and ideas 💡. Just so you know, I have a mild brain injury so math is not my friend. But the engineering part I get. Keep up the inspiring work 💪 👏 🙌. Cheers from Calgary Alberta Canada 🇨🇦 👍 😀

[@247printing]

Hey, thank you so much! If you like, come join us on 247printing discord (link in video description) and we can get in touch!

[@morbus5726]

ooh the uzy fialment looks nice. kinda like prusament but half the price.

[@deathlyarrow264]

I have placed my order gonna try the premium ones they say this is better tolerance than prusament 0.01mm

[@247printing]

It's really great stuff. I was paid for the advertisement, but it's just really good.

[@sable5689]

I think it would be great to see what exactly you are doing to find the bottlenecks of you're printers. Measuring flow rate is pretty simple, but I'm not sure how to tune the speeds and acceleration limits for going fast

[@247printing]

It's a lot of testing and observing for each feature which has a speed setting. Quite iterative print -> adjust -> print -> adjust per setting thing. Not very exciting

[@JonS]

I have the CNCed aluminum X-Beam from Fabreeko that I won on Fail Fast's stream to put on mine. I'm also going to use the Kirigami bed.

[@247printing]

Hey Jon! I also have that one here. Along with two other concepts for a light(er)-weight purpose...pssssstt....

[@MrTree421]

That is impressive as fuck! Also you telling the viewer you are not telling them that subscribing liking and commenting will help 247 brought me here. Cause I thought it's a funny way to tell your viewers to do those things.

[@247printing]

That's a very important open question, yes. I don't have equipment in order to test this properly atm. We'll see if Stefan is going to do this some day - he hast he printers and machine for that.

[@millomaker]

Amazing work, a X axis in carbon like the bambu lab can work instead of the 3d printed one. But idk if carbon fiber things like that exist 🧐

[@mechadroit]

Do you have any videos on how to get PETG to print faster? I feel like I'm limited because of the material, but if you have any tips.... You'd be my hero.

[@ifrommygravewillrise]

I read this morning that toroidal shaped fan blades are much quieter and more efficient than standard blades.

[@247printing]

Thanks a lot! I'll check it out - maybe there is a solution for this to integrate.

[@MakerBees333]

I had to look it up it was over a year ago I suggested the 247 Zero name… time flies. Did you officially get the name yet? Or is it still a nickname. Either way I am stoked you have been so successful!❤❤

[@247printing]

Oh thanks Theodore! I am not sure what to do to get that officially? Atm I still consider it as a Nickname yes!

[@MakerBees333]

@@247printing Yeah, it is probably not worth your time, they have a whole board of people to review and decide that stuff. I just thought maybe they were recognizing your contributions to the space and reached out to you… a long shot but not impossible.

[@247printing]

@@MakerBees333 ah, you mean the Voron guys? I asked for V0.247, but they decided against it and it was logical for me.

[@MakerBees333]

@@247printing That’s too bad, that even fits their naming scheme. 🙃 they are just missing out . 😉

[@oliverer3]

Have you tried mounting the extruder above the printer at all? I feel like straightening out the bowden tube might significantly decrease the resistance for your extruder.

[@1chriswu2]

My printer moved that fast once. Never again, that was terrifying as it was moving across the table. Ender 3 is awesome tho @ 100mm/s lol.

[@injesusname3732]

Got the same dehydrator 👌

[@247printing]

Do you like it? Didn't expect to like it THAT much!

[@Dave_the_Dave]

I have to say, my favorite thing about your design is the remote part cooling. Shooting a jet of air at the print head and then passively ducting it down at the print is really really clever. Maybe you could use a similar duct to pull some of that hot air to the hot end heatsink so you can remove that fan as well. Or how about guided jets of air follow the print head? For your X-rail, what about making it really wide in the Y direction, and then decreasing the wall thickness to keep mass the same? The lateral stiffness should increase the wider that rail is. I suppose it depends on if the problem is lateral or torsional stiffness. For a true speedboat focused machine, I would make the print volume as small as possible, the same size as the speedboat benchy model, so there's no extra mass or flexible length on structural members or belts. The ultimate lightweight printhead would be just a nozzle at the end exit of a bowden tube, connected to tensioned dyneema wires for positioning, the filament being melted by a laser mounted on the frame that tracks the hotend. A flying "hotend" with remote heating.

[@TheRainHarvester]

Whoa good idea! But wear goggles lol!