How Fast will Thatch Burn?

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@ivan55599
@ivan55599 4 жыл бұрын
Note: thatched roof, which is very thick, is totally different than handful of thatch with lots of space and area to "breethe" fire.
@sparklxrd
@sparklxrd 5 жыл бұрын
anyone else thought they were going to burn the cottage :D
@clint-1725
@clint-1725 5 жыл бұрын
Yes sir
@davidellis5312
@davidellis5312 5 жыл бұрын
Yes! They could have just watched Platoon....
@dess3597
@dess3597 5 жыл бұрын
D:
@michaelkeymont501
@michaelkeymont501 4 жыл бұрын
...then Black Lives Matter strolled by and burned it all down...
@sharonh4944
@sharonh4944 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah it's a good lead in! At least he said they were not going to!
@dannyblazenko5928
@dannyblazenko5928 5 жыл бұрын
If you find it cold camping in there during the winter you can heat stones and bring them indoors, they hold the heat a really long time and wont present a hazard.
@RichWoods23
@RichWoods23 5 жыл бұрын
The primary hazard comes from heating up stones which have soaked up water over the years. The water will turn into steam and expand with enough force to crack the stone, sending shards flying everywhere.
@dannyblazenko5928
@dannyblazenko5928 5 жыл бұрын
@@RichWoods23 True. But if they use rocks around the fire pit they can transfer those. In the end he's in the UK and it doesn't get quite as cold as we do here in Canada so the likelihood of them requiring a heat source may be a moot point as it should hold the ambient temperature.
@dannyblazenko5928
@dannyblazenko5928 5 жыл бұрын
The other side is, they don't need to place the stones directly in the fire to heat them, by being near the fire like in the Saxon house fire pit they will gather and hold residual heat.
@paulharris5541
@paulharris5541 5 жыл бұрын
danny blazenko is say they know that!
@paulharris5541
@paulharris5541 5 жыл бұрын
I’d
@hjohnstone6921
@hjohnstone6921 5 жыл бұрын
Great vid👍🏻 I love the father/son bond you both have☺️
@MissGroves
@MissGroves 5 жыл бұрын
I remember a fireman in Wiltshire talking about thatch fires, apparently they can smoulder for days and used to be a real pain to put out and quite dangerous as the smoulder could ignite any second
@Finwolven
@Finwolven 5 жыл бұрын
Yea, if it gets lit somewhere, it can pull an ember far inside the thatch, especially if it's damp on the outer layers. It can just keep going inside the roof, kind of like a thick peat roof can.
@GreenerHill
@GreenerHill 5 жыл бұрын
MissGroves: Wiltshire's my home county and we often saw the aftermath of thatch fires. Your comment's spot-on. A thatched farmhouse suffered a chimney fire, and the fire brigade instructed the owners to be vigilant in case of hotspots. They promptly went out to bingo and returned to a blazing home!
@rialobran
@rialobran 5 жыл бұрын
Thatched houses are bonfires, they tend to smoulder very fast through a roof with few visible flames until the thatch is loosened. The best and only way to stop it is to make a break in the roof. Many thatch fires are caused by sparks from chimney fires, because the reed it tightly packed water has little effect....and an extinguisher is useless. If you have one keep a drag fork nearby, should it catch fire drag as much un-burnt material off as fast as you can, obviously safety is first. In 26 years I went to scores of thatch fires, rarely saved the more than the walls.
@ChrisBrown-pw2lb
@ChrisBrown-pw2lb 5 жыл бұрын
I could watch these all day. I love this channel.
@movinon04
@movinon04 5 жыл бұрын
great experiment-- just a tip that one day you might try inside a dwelling-- my great grandmother was a native American indian- and she lived in a teepee in her youth-- she told us that they would hang a animal hide above their hearth about 6 ft high in winter to keep sparks from traveling up to ceiling--they never burned inside during warm weather-- hope this helps somewhere along in the future - blessings
@zaya7330
@zaya7330 5 жыл бұрын
This! Fires weren’t necessarily for staying warm, they were more for staying dry. There’s no reason to need a fire inside if it’s really dry, just get a thicker blanket lol I suppose they could burn a few pine cones if they wanted to clear the thatch out from bugs, or maybe just some incense
@weoff507
@weoff507 5 жыл бұрын
The moment in the video when you catch yourself blowing on the screen to try and help the thatch catch fire. Classic. Glad my wife didn’t notice me blowing at my phone screen. Love the videos.
@andyhart4534
@andyhart4534 5 жыл бұрын
It’s a pleasure to see you chaps out there having a good time , keep it up
@audiotechlabs4650
@audiotechlabs4650 5 жыл бұрын
Well boys you have done it again! #1 in entertainment! Not everyone would get that close to burning themselves to demo if thatch burns. I love that you guys have built these wonderful structures. A glimpse to the past. This video confirms the reason I prefer metal roofing! Mike I know you are not a slave to your viewers. You do provide content that is asked for in the comments. We appreciate your trying to answer these questions in the comments. All I can say.....MORE MORE MORE! Thanxz
@janiskuze
@janiskuze 5 жыл бұрын
Reed roofs are quite fire resistant. Once they have been up for some time they get different dust and fungus in them as well as moisture and properly packed will not go up in flames just smolder
@1628maverick
@1628maverick 5 жыл бұрын
A relative of mine's thatched cottage roof went up once from a few rogue sparks, Set fire to the entire row of thatched roofs!! Love your channel guys and the fishing!!
@TAOutdoors
@TAOutdoors 5 жыл бұрын
G M not the first time I’ve heard of something like that happen. When they get going they really burn fast. Regardless of whether they have been treated enough
@davidmuscato460
@davidmuscato460 5 жыл бұрын
The best part I have enjoyed about watching all your videos is the relationship between you and your dad! Extraordinary!!
@CHRISTINAMAGNOLIA
@CHRISTINAMAGNOLIA 4 жыл бұрын
Well I'm so pleased to hear that you're not going to burn down all that work and material! I will now continue watching the video.
@samvangemmert9482
@samvangemmert9482 5 жыл бұрын
Here in the Netherlands using water reed as thatch is still pretty common, just in my street alone easily 30% of the houses have thatched roofs like that. There are pretty strict regulations on it thou, like you need lightning rods, licenced thatchers, maintenance contracts etc... not to mention you fire insurance being substantially higher. Still it looks and feels amazing.
@Janettemay64
@Janettemay64 4 жыл бұрын
A fire inside would be in a charcoal brazier, nice and warm without the big flames. Thanks guys a really interesting series to watch. I'm 76 now and in our younger days we built a house from rocks off our land and timber half rounds we sourced from the rail sleeper cutters with a stabilised earth floor. we caved on the roof and settled for a colour-bond . Total cost around one thousand dollars for the roof, we raised our family there.
@julieivers7375
@julieivers7375 5 жыл бұрын
I guess it depends on how tightly packed the thatch is and the weather will play a big part too. WOW, I grew up swimming in the River Spey! You're gonna love the fishing there!
@chrisosh9574
@chrisosh9574 5 жыл бұрын
I used to do Western Re enactment, we used to use stage explosives to get hay bales burning but some venues wouldn't let us do that. Some also had concerns from their insurers and a couple wanted us to fire proof the bales. Surprisingly there are products you can spray the thatch with to inhibit flame spread, I know this because that is the product we used on the bales. This was in the '80s so I guess there are better products now. Shingles burn equally well so no advantage. Edit: Magma firestop is the product, works on thatch and wood (as well as hay bales).
@fernafer7803
@fernafer7803 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Mike... day after day the saxon house is growing up more and more ...it's awesome...also, i think son/dad as an perfect relationship... Cheers from Argentina..!!
@thizizliz
@thizizliz 5 жыл бұрын
I suspect you are right about the reasons. Availability & ease of installation would be compelling reasons. You & your dad surely seem to get along well. It is so cool!
@IVoyager-lj9it
@IVoyager-lj9it 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe I'm the weird one. I'm more entertained by you spending time with your Dad than the burning of things.
@hjohnstone6921
@hjohnstone6921 5 жыл бұрын
I, Voyager1776 I totally agree with you😉 Such a lovely bond they have☺️
@tinovanderzwanphonocave544
@tinovanderzwanphonocave544 5 жыл бұрын
they found in archeological digs where roof parts were preserved that they used clay and manure mix to make it more fireproof
@edwardsalinas3627
@edwardsalinas3627 5 жыл бұрын
Love the channel. Love the father son bonding to do thing s like this. Keep it up!
@floraldiety
@floraldiety 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for building these and taking us along your journeys. You are one of my favorite past times! Lol
@debbieihrig1745
@debbieihrig1745 5 жыл бұрын
your dad is sooo fun. I miss mine. :)
@tag1462
@tag1462 5 жыл бұрын
Congratulations you have solved an archeological puzzle for me. I have always wondered how you could set fire to structures made of stone and burn a city down. The answer of course is the thatched roofing. And it's certainly hot enough to spread to the timber support. And enough heat can certainly destroy man's attempt at masonry. It's amazing what bushcrafting can reveal to us!
@jeffseaton5193
@jeffseaton5193 5 жыл бұрын
Haha your Dad looked like he was going after Frankenstein holding that torch.
@killer-kane
@killer-kane 5 жыл бұрын
Jeff Seaton Frankenstein was not the monster, he was the doctor who created the creature. Yawn.
@jeffseaton5193
@jeffseaton5193 5 жыл бұрын
@@killer-kane I'm sure you got the point
@dhession64
@dhession64 5 жыл бұрын
It seems that things have to be just right for it to take off burning. This is very interesting. The thatch resists burning to a degree. I can imagine that if it starts at the bottom of the roof, it'll just proceed up unbridled. If it's at the top, it'll burn a bit, smolder and die out w/o the right conditions. This is very enlightening. I'd imagine that it would be really good tinder if prepared properly. Thank you for this video. And seeing Graeme in all his comic glory is always a treat.
@joecola6487
@joecola6487 5 жыл бұрын
It's great watching you and your pops .. goes without saying .. enjoy it 😁
@aliloucreations1817
@aliloucreations1817 5 жыл бұрын
GREAME ! Put that down , you’ve got my nerves gone , you look after yourself please, your one of my most favourite people, I love this channel,keep up the great work ❤️❤️❤️
@BraxxJuventa
@BraxxJuventa 5 жыл бұрын
Totally Awesome video again Mike and Dad! 👍😁
@ronandanne1
@ronandanne1 5 жыл бұрын
Good thinking to test this! Saxon-era fire safety codes were notoriously weak. Warm clothes, flashlights, and sandwiches in the Saxon house. No fires. Best wishes.
@Jamiek485
@Jamiek485 4 жыл бұрын
Ya’ll are funny! Glad you didn’t burn down your project or you facial hair! Good job on the Saxon house, I couldn’t stop watching! :)
@A_Casual_NPC
@A_Casual_NPC 5 жыл бұрын
I truly think that roof still needs some love. You did an amazing so far, it just feels not completely done yet. You can make it more even just with some more time. If possible some more thatch for the top would be great, but id understand if thats not possible, but some more time and love should. Those details matter I'm the end, better to spend the time on it now. That being said, I absolutely love the work you two and don't take my feedback as critisism. I'm just a fan wanting to see this series live up to its full potential
@shawnschully5918
@shawnschully5918 5 жыл бұрын
ya the top was bungled. he didn't put the reed high enough and you don't cut it you blend both sides
@Sky-Child
@Sky-Child 3 жыл бұрын
Very helpful for applying for planning permission!!
@dionnereddington4531
@dionnereddington4531 5 жыл бұрын
United Kingdom : national shortish of thatch TA outdoors : let’s burn some thatch 🤣 love you guys what a great channel
@chrisbarker270
@chrisbarker270 5 жыл бұрын
Tightly packed it shouldn't burn to fast. Fire needs a lot of oxygen. So pack it tight. Cool mates, hope you have a great evening.
@Jirekianu
@Jirekianu 5 жыл бұрын
The problem is that each piece of thatch is a hollow tube. That's why it burns so fast. Not just that it's dry plant matter. But that it's hollow as well so even tightly packed each piece of thatch has a little pocket of air to supply the fire.
@mikefaurskov3188
@mikefaurskov3188 5 жыл бұрын
Yep, chris you're right. It burns a lot slower when it's tightly packed. But still, when it first get going it burns fast. In Denmark we used to use cordage to bind the thatch together, so if a fire started they could just cut the cordage and the thatch would fall from the house and it would at least save the house.
@mariasalazar7576
@mariasalazar7576 5 жыл бұрын
Fantastic to know that information cuz I did wonder about the fire
@JimmyDisabledPrepper
@JimmyDisabledPrepper 5 жыл бұрын
dipped in wax, they make a candle. Which was cheaper & widely used in place of candles. Special holders with clips were used.
@lordsigurdthorolf1202
@lordsigurdthorolf1202 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your time. From Phoenix Arizona USA ;
@nuuskamuikkunenmuumilaakson
@nuuskamuikkunenmuumilaakson 5 жыл бұрын
put some sand+clay or just a bit mud on the top of it (the roof) and it wont burn like this anymore - this is how we do it here
@eelcohoogendoorn8044
@eelcohoogendoorn8044 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah; I cant speak from experience, but I imagine if you throw buckets of watery clay suspension on it from the inside, and give it all a bit of a mineral coating, its ability to catch sparks would be greatly reduced. That, plus a chimney and fireplace, and it should be managable I think.
@rubyleighuk6230
@rubyleighuk6230 5 жыл бұрын
“People in China toasting saveloys on a long stick” 😂 love it haha
@marianfrances4959
@marianfrances4959 5 жыл бұрын
oh my! good plan on keeping the fire away from the thatch roof!
@michaelgeiss741
@michaelgeiss741 5 жыл бұрын
Great video! Older, tightly packed, often rained on, well smoked, well settled thatch is harder to light but not fireproof. Plenty of smoke from inside fires helps keep insects from eating the roof and slows down the rot so it lasts longer. Once the roof packs down good not much smoke will get through and so you will have to open the door to prevent carbon monoxide poisoning, assuming you don't die in a conflagration first!
@vikinghunter2177
@vikinghunter2177 5 жыл бұрын
Love the laughs you are both having, cheers!
@TAOutdoors
@TAOutdoors 5 жыл бұрын
Cheers Craig!
@elizabethhatfield2115
@elizabethhatfield2115 5 жыл бұрын
Most often the Anglo-Saxons dug a large pit for their fires and still only built a moderate fire to ensure their homes didn't go up in flames. The same material used to make the thatched roofs was used to make torches used in mining to ensure some sort of lighting in the tunnels from the beginning of mining (starting with rush-light torches and going forward from there).
@deereating9267
@deereating9267 5 жыл бұрын
I love how much fun you have together!
@CodingtheRoad
@CodingtheRoad 5 жыл бұрын
Your Dad is a gem.
@tontobugsym.9653
@tontobugsym.9653 5 жыл бұрын
Wundervoll was Ihr alles so macht!😊😍👏👏👏
@RiverbendlongbowsOutdoors
@RiverbendlongbowsOutdoors 5 жыл бұрын
It definitely burns hot like bamboo. Fun experiment 👍
@paulbales3513
@paulbales3513 5 жыл бұрын
it has a lot to do with surface to mass ratio. In the end it is a combustible material add heat and oxygen = fire (combustion). Your Video was an excellent example of the different stages of fire development: Growth stage (incipient), Free burning (fully Developed), Decay (fuel glowing embers). As an Arson Investigator I couldn't have done a better display myself. You teach well even when your not certain of what you are teaching.
@OWNEDGAMINGwasd
@OWNEDGAMINGwasd 5 жыл бұрын
I really thought you guys were gonna burn it 😅😅😅 . Please keep the good work and add more pallet wood videos
@RealmRabbit
@RealmRabbit 2 жыл бұрын
Hmm... Writing a story and had this question... Good video... The glow when it's smoldering is pretty cool and yeah, you probably don't want to hold it vertically when you're burning it... If the flame is held at the bottom then it'll very quickly travel upwards (as flames tend to do) and if you hold it with the flame at the top then (unless you have something holding it in place like if you wanted to make a torch) then you're going to have burning pieces come falling downwards to where you are holding it... But yeah, very interesting video...
@mikedavies1829
@mikedavies1829 5 жыл бұрын
I,ll start it first GP for Olympic torch bearer, as usuall best vid on Utube keep it up guys your the best. Hope alls well with family and new home Mike ,stay safe best wishes from Malta no thatch here cheers
@tombradley8832
@tombradley8832 5 жыл бұрын
Big fan of you and your dad's channel. I would love to see an overview of your camera equipment and maybe a behind the scenes insight into your scene setup. I think you make fantastic films, keep it up.
@HatchetSurvival
@HatchetSurvival 5 жыл бұрын
keep up the great work! you’re an inspiration to me!
@vidiotzak
@vidiotzak 5 жыл бұрын
Ha! Totally Awesome Trouble! Love it!
@mishawakapost2681
@mishawakapost2681 5 жыл бұрын
Fist bumps 👊👊👊👊👊, high fives/pats on the back ✋✋✋✋✋, extra thumbs up 👍👍👍👍👍. Pets ❤❤❤❤❤, treats and tummy rubs.
@handleymachine4421
@handleymachine4421 5 жыл бұрын
Not sure if it’s available in the UK. But I’ve read that if you take regular Borax laundry soap. And mix it with water to something like a skim milk consistency . And spray it on the thatch it will act as a fire retardant. I’d like to see you guys experiment with that. Really enjoying this series. Good job guys. 👍
@runeborgbjerg
@runeborgbjerg 5 жыл бұрын
When it is as compact as it is on the building I think it will take a LOT more to set it alight. You mention it on the second burn, a bundle would burn a lot slower. Maybe an experiment for version 2? :)
@Ogre_82
@Ogre_82 5 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear there probably wont be a fire pit inside the anglo-saxon house.
@Andy-1968
@Andy-1968 5 жыл бұрын
A good father, son science experiment on 🌲TA Outdoors🌲 a good video guy's, take care, look after yourselves & ATB 🙂🥃👍 Andy
@Steven_VE9SY
@Steven_VE9SY 5 жыл бұрын
Looks like dads trying to light the Olympic torch!
@indonesiaprimitive3267
@indonesiaprimitive3267 5 жыл бұрын
My idol ❤ greetings from Indonesia
@henryjohnston2061
@henryjohnston2061 5 жыл бұрын
I read somewhere the original roofs in Jamestown where thatched. They quickly changed to wooden shingles because of fires. Different grass, different weather.
@samcragg88
@samcragg88 5 жыл бұрын
Great channel. Looking forward to a overnighter and cook up video
@lindawoods6841
@lindawoods6841 5 жыл бұрын
this video is so educational..thank you for sharing
@rosiecotton8343
@rosiecotton8343 5 жыл бұрын
🎶London's burning, London's burning, Fetch the engines, Fetch the engines...🎶
@chipper841
@chipper841 5 жыл бұрын
What a great experiment! Thanks guys. NO indoor fire please!👍👍
@scottw2317
@scottw2317 5 жыл бұрын
doing the build with say a roman hypercaust would alleviate somewhat the risk of a fire. but they are different period methods, still interesting to test out.
@ettamornhalvjatten3214
@ettamornhalvjatten3214 5 жыл бұрын
To quote a friend of mine in my best Minnesota accent...."thatch rooves don't need no kindling"
@ClashBluelight
@ClashBluelight 5 жыл бұрын
that torch was amazing. nice to know that a bundle of reeds can last several minutes.
@GMSurvival
@GMSurvival 5 жыл бұрын
For a second I thought you were gonna burn down the hard worked house! Luckily you didn't. Lol. Love the channel by the way, thanks for sharing!
@Tsiri09
@Tsiri09 5 жыл бұрын
They used what they had. Simple. It did burn, but they rebuilt. I lived in a thatched cottage in Caxton End called Willow Cottage. I'll never forget that place.
@garyjohnson4608
@garyjohnson4608 5 жыл бұрын
Wow, that dry thatch burns really well!!!
@BrokeBoysBushcraft
@BrokeBoysBushcraft 5 жыл бұрын
I can see why you haven't put a firepit inside the saxon house now 😂. For real though, i feel like if you caked the inside with clay or mud, then I bet you could have a fire inside there safely. Awesome test bro!
@zw5509
@zw5509 5 жыл бұрын
The roof thatch is in tight bundles, it impedes the burn. Of course as you tested it in individual pieces with oxygen readily available all around, it burns well. Why do you think you split wood? Enjoying the videos.
@rfrie6757
@rfrie6757 5 жыл бұрын
das ist von euch echt gut gemacht worden. hut ab
@nemisis3006
@nemisis3006 5 жыл бұрын
I was wondering if you would have a fire in the house and this video comes out! lol
@barlotardy
@barlotardy 5 жыл бұрын
Anyone else have the Trogdor song stuck in their head right now??
@killer-kane
@killer-kane 5 жыл бұрын
Bradford Taylor No
@turtleshatz
@turtleshatz 4 жыл бұрын
I used the Find command on the word "Trogdor" because I had a feeling someone would say something.
@Jamiek485
@Jamiek485 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, they still use that for roofs today?! Amazing!
@nicogman8469
@nicogman8469 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing I didn't know TA fishing was your dad I watch his channel all time. You got yourself new sub
@tomosedwards8369
@tomosedwards8369 5 жыл бұрын
Graham you are an absolute legend!! Haha
@ricknsw71
@ricknsw71 5 жыл бұрын
Nice work mate cheers from Australia guys🇦🇺💯
@seansoutdoors
@seansoutdoors 5 жыл бұрын
Have any interest in getting together for a bowhunt for deer?
@alexisamtosta
@alexisamtosta 5 жыл бұрын
I live your fire burnig idea...a car steel wheel. 1st time i've seen that. I will copy you mate.
@adriancox-thesantjordigolf3646
@adriancox-thesantjordigolf3646 5 жыл бұрын
Can it be treated to make it less flammable?
@grizzlybear5758
@grizzlybear5758 5 жыл бұрын
Very good work, man 👍
@evanulven8249
@evanulven8249 5 жыл бұрын
Looks like you need another layer of thatch on one side of the room. Still, awesome. I would totally winter in a place like that.
@Taromovies
@Taromovies 5 жыл бұрын
Really cool to see how you build this thatch roof up, yes the thatch burns quite well and i dont think, that your father and son experiment is that stupid:-) but on the roof is the thatch very compressed and not so much oxigen between, so in a ermergency it will give you some time to get save, anyway no reason not to take care and think twice abuot a fire in the house, thanke for sharing, Taro
@joharmon2148
@joharmon2148 5 жыл бұрын
Well that was fun LOL Really it was a good lesson on not to play with fire near a thatch roof
@noahkling4018
@noahkling4018 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting that you actually have to put the flame to the thatch for it to burn. The house should fine with a small fire.
@jacobroberts1434
@jacobroberts1434 5 жыл бұрын
I was watching a different video when the notification came up and I immediately thought it accidentally burned down
@martinbonniciphotography
@martinbonniciphotography 5 жыл бұрын
I'm not surprised about the ferocity of the burn once it got to combustible temp. I wonder what thatch would be like after sitting for a few years once it has been drenched and dried naturally a few times. I don't know if you could do it but maybe an interview with a thatcher would be very interesting??? Great clip as usual.
@darlenewright5850
@darlenewright5850 5 жыл бұрын
Thnx! Never knew and know I do.
@ErnestoTani
@ErnestoTani 5 жыл бұрын
Straw roofs are amazing for hot summer and cold winter days and night.
@tinasearcy4684
@tinasearcy4684 5 жыл бұрын
The three little piggy House's came to mind cost of straw House of wood house of brick you get it just started started laughing I think that it is beautiful ❤️
@steventhompson6825
@steventhompson6825 5 жыл бұрын
Love the video keep all fires away lol
@papajeff5486
@papajeff5486 5 жыл бұрын
Good to know. Thanks. Texas
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