How Fnatic DESTROYED BBL With DEADLOCK!

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Thinking Man's Valorant

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@ThinkingMansValorant
@ThinkingMansValorant 6 ай бұрын
Sorry about my mic, some of my settings got a bit messed up but hopefully it's bearable and will be fixed for the next one :)
@mmugi02
@mmugi02 6 ай бұрын
I ABSOLUTELY CANNOT believe that your microphone was not in top tier performance for my viewing. Im just kidding u sound fine pumpkin
@Crucial54321
@Crucial54321 6 ай бұрын
Don't care, already put your coordinates into my nuclear warhead
@aisulol
@aisulol 6 ай бұрын
all good pookie
@basketballnshit3731
@basketballnshit3731 6 ай бұрын
it was UNBEARABLE
@funkycrawler619
@funkycrawler619 6 ай бұрын
You see...this has been a thing in Challengers for a WHILE now (TMV the goat for saying so) and I just hope this shows people that even the highest levels get inspiration from the lower tiers (and yes- I have not forgotten when people forget G2 Gozen invented the Sensory Deprivation comp and people barely gave them credit).
@cronggpal
@cronggpal 6 ай бұрын
Tbf i dont see anyone givibg comps credit anywhere. That may be because i dont participate on val esports discourse outside of yt but yeah
@keshavvyas4705
@keshavvyas4705 6 ай бұрын
what comp is it
@czpa6406
@czpa6406 6 ай бұрын
​​@@keshavvyas4705since it's sensory deprivation, it sounds like it's Fade, Omen and prrobably Viper or a flashing agent(?) like, it sounds like it's taking advantage of nearsights and audio supression
@funkycrawler619
@funkycrawler619 6 ай бұрын
@@keshavvyas4705 Previous commenter on track. The original comp was Yoru/Fade and taking advantage of audio surpression specfically. Now I believe KC made the comp much more known with Yoru/Fade but using Omen/Astra as well. But the overall premise is capitalizing on lack of Audio compared to say lack of vision from most comps.
@funkycrawler619
@funkycrawler619 6 ай бұрын
@@czpa6406 Close! Fade/Yoru are the main agents. KC introduced Omen/Astra to really expand on the initial principle but overall the comp focuses on capitalizing on Audio Surpression compared to Vision Surpression.
@rafaelchianca
@rafaelchianca 6 ай бұрын
as a deadlock main and lover, Chronicle was the first pro player to bring her FULL POTENTIAL at a high level match. Loved the performance and skill usage
@cronggpal
@cronggpal 6 ай бұрын
Thats why hes the GOAT. He jus needs that champs trophy and hes set
@nonsense0000
@nonsense0000 6 ай бұрын
I mean hes doing a pretty good job but full potential? Nah there still some work to do He ult like what? 4-5 times and only connect once. Even that one doesnt die because he ult from a window gap. I know the idea is to isolate the player on site but there so much can go wrong there with that kinda ult usage. There could be 3 stack and both of them immediately break the cocoon
@shayanshaikh534
@shayanshaikh534 6 ай бұрын
Tbh Eren bought it out way earlier than anyone dropping like 25 or a 30 bomb and actually finding value even on the pre buff deadlock
@czpa6406
@czpa6406 6 ай бұрын
I think he struggled a lot on defense, his attack was really good tho
@funkycrawler619
@funkycrawler619 6 ай бұрын
@@nonsense0000 A small buff for the ult (other than you know tweaking the inconsistencies and lowkey make it 6)- would be so if you are trapped you get surpressed. Ifeel like its odd you're not surpressed while trapped so yea
@_Dumb_Answers
@_Dumb_Answers 6 ай бұрын
that sensor in hell was so neat I never thought of using it that way. Can also be used that way for Haven A, Icebox Rafters, etc.
@dadrako1581
@dadrako1581 6 ай бұрын
The pits of abyss can do this as well.
@professionalanagram
@professionalanagram 6 ай бұрын
it’s actually a pretty common one! very devastating for heaven retakers as it guarantees a trade at bare minimum
@_Dumb_Answers
@_Dumb_Answers 6 ай бұрын
@@professionalanagram My dumbass was jumping from site and installing it on heaven like a peasant XD
@AcheAirC
@AcheAirC 6 ай бұрын
Deadlock is seeing more play and in ranked nobody knows how to play her but in tier 1 deadlock can do some damage
@benniwd2077
@benniwd2077 6 ай бұрын
The problem with deadlock for ranked is mostly that she relies on team plays and tram coordination way more than lets say a cypher does. In proplay where your play is realy coordinated it can work out and cause some problems like shown with this comp or also the loud lotus comp
@yourbelovedautumn
@yourbelovedautumn 6 ай бұрын
@@benniwd2077 nah. i dont need teammates and i destroy lobbies with her
@BlueGX
@BlueGX 6 ай бұрын
@@yourbelovedautumn fr
@bluefirephoenix397
@bluefirephoenix397 6 ай бұрын
As a silver deadlock main I know how to use her util the problem is those who thinks she's a sentinel like cypher or killjoy using her trip to watch flank when it's for you to gain an advantage while watching that specific area for attacking it can be use to stun the enemy who will push
@BlueGX
@BlueGX 6 ай бұрын
@@bluefirephoenix397 frfr
@jamesluong5299
@jamesluong5299 6 ай бұрын
I’ve seen people do celing trips with the sonic sensor but never seen people throw it in hell. That is strong
@nonsense0000
@nonsense0000 6 ай бұрын
This should be 13-7 tbh Fnatic playing pretty sloopy
@mou5ecop
@mou5ecop 6 ай бұрын
sloppy toppy
@dah_nerfinator6602
@dah_nerfinator6602 6 ай бұрын
i mean ur right but they literally have a rookie with his first official game with the team. so i wouldnt be too harsh
@funkycrawler619
@funkycrawler619 6 ай бұрын
@@dah_nerfinator6602 OH i didnt realize he was a full rookie. They actually did pretty good considering that
@_hial_6481
@_hial_6481 6 ай бұрын
It's great to see FNC innovate on the meta again
@funkycrawler619
@funkycrawler619 6 ай бұрын
I mean...this comes from Challengers lol but I guess it is fair to say them being the first Tier 1 team to use the comp speaks volumes (though they kind of did a watered down version since Jett does not really work with this).
@furuta_
@furuta_ 6 ай бұрын
stellar n turtle troops/dark zero innovate
@cronggpal
@cronggpal 6 ай бұрын
Clove, Deadlock, and Iso all having a place in pro play, love to see it
@MukeshRajasekar
@MukeshRajasekar 6 ай бұрын
Yup. I think her wall is much stronger than sage
@funkycrawler619
@funkycrawler619 6 ай бұрын
Iso? Where :O
@devooko
@devooko 6 ай бұрын
​@@funkycrawler619in the foreseeable future, hopefully
@gibbonlover
@gibbonlover 6 ай бұрын
king gizzard and the lizard wizard
@yourbelovedautumn
@yourbelovedautumn 6 ай бұрын
clove? i don't know about but the rest i agree can work
@mrindeed4339
@mrindeed4339 6 ай бұрын
Me and my 5 fellow deadlock mains are rejoicing
@justjuniorjaw
@justjuniorjaw 6 ай бұрын
How a F.A.N. defeated BBL Drizzy
@IForgorMyHW
@IForgorMyHW 6 ай бұрын
😭
@gametechbc2956
@gametechbc2956 6 ай бұрын
That hell sensor one I did literally from the start.. and I get flamed by my teammates that "wtf is that trap, who's gonna follow up". bruhh LET ME PLAY AS I WANT!!! ... Btw .. Yoru, Omen, Deadlock main here
@Joshy_Poo
@Joshy_Poo 6 ай бұрын
After the buffs, I never thought Deadlock was a bad agent, they just needed to find their spot in the meta. Deadlock not only is actually a really good site holder, but also has a lot of offensive power with the throwable wall to reach areas Sage can’t or quicker, grav net to get info but also take advantage of the time needed to pull out the net, and even using sound sensors on spike and to hold the retake, which is great because most sentinels are using their utility to gather info rather than using them for the enemy’s retake and spike. One of the hardest abilities to find value in when Deadlock came out and even after the buffs was the grav net as no pro teams could figure out how to utilize it to its fullest other than simply stalling or something else, but we’ve discovered so many things about it like comboing utility with it, gaining info, and now taking advantage of that info to get some picks if used in the right place and time, and who knows, maybe we’ll be in for more surprises about it. One of the more interesting things I’ve seen used is in this game is the Deadlock wall lineup to spawn as we’ve never seen a Deadlock wall to fully prevent rotates and funnel everyone into one area. We’ve even found some cool gimmicks with Deadlock in the first pro game she was used in like the Sova Deadlock trap with the grav net and dart and a lot more. I think Deadlock has officially become a viable niche option. Maybe Iso will be next to become a viable niche pick, there’s not a single other character in this game other than Reyna (we all know the deal with her, she is played but solely relies on kills to literally use her abilities. Also, Phoenix does see play and I think Neon will see more play after these massive buffs) who isn’t seen as at least a viable niche pick in pro play and that’s what makes this game great.
@soundcloutking303
@soundcloutking303 6 ай бұрын
That fanatic comp with a yoru instead of a Jett might be cool, would solve the flash and retake problem and give you more info with the clone and ult 🤷
@Gibyn
@Gibyn 6 ай бұрын
I’m so hyped to see deadlock get picked more without having to buff her more, people are getting creative and trying out new stuff it’s so nice to see, very refreshing.
@snowconedeity
@snowconedeity 6 ай бұрын
the Yoru that M80 runs solves most of these issues imo
@funkycrawler619
@funkycrawler619 6 ай бұрын
I was gonna say lol Jett for Jett's sake isn't needed specially now more than ever when like all Duelist are viable like practice others ha
@loslobo_
@loslobo_ 6 ай бұрын
I 100% agreed
@yourbelovedautumn
@yourbelovedautumn 6 ай бұрын
i agree, jett wouldn't be needed here + yoru can do quite literally everything other duelists do, play like phoenix, reyna, jett if you really wanna entry + fast rotates and a good ult for retake
@armored8121
@armored8121 6 ай бұрын
I’ve been a deadlock main since day 1. Now people are starting to play her beforehand I didn’t even have to insta lock her
@ΔιονύσηςΜπιζύμης
@ΔιονύσηςΜπιζύμης 6 ай бұрын
11:25 chroniclewas watching boni videos for this trick for sure
@BoniValo
@BoniValo 6 ай бұрын
fr
@CalinMercy
@CalinMercy 6 ай бұрын
something that fnatic could do have full controll on b main is that there is a senzor that stuns thru wall and then you can put another one in main so double stun
@HunterOWen1O
@HunterOWen1O 6 ай бұрын
I've been eagerly waiting for this video lol
@slleepofdog
@slleepofdog 6 ай бұрын
TTR comp my beloved. This entire pre-Split2 time I've been saying it would be shocking if not a single team brought out this comp especially because they actually have time to prac it and the comp can do soooo much
@jayjaywon
@jayjaywon 6 ай бұрын
Nip invented it first 🥱
@slleepofdog
@slleepofdog 6 ай бұрын
@@jayjaywon I know, and Drx played harbor viper first but that is the Loud comp through and through. I think it's more about who popularized it and showed the full potential
@jayjaywon
@jayjaywon 6 ай бұрын
@@slleepofdog If we're really gonna talk about a team "popularizing it" then Sin Prisa has been using deadlock + cypher for much longer than TTR, and are super popular in the Kr scene. Just keeping it a buck
@slleepofdog
@slleepofdog 6 ай бұрын
@@jayjaywon SinPrisa haven't played the Deadlock cypher comp on Ascent a single time. And the first time they played Deadlock+cypher was May 6th on bind. Where as TTr has been playing this comp on Ascent since April 5th. And half of the stuff TMV talks about being good in the vid are just setups taken straight from TTR
@Cheasle2
@Cheasle2 6 ай бұрын
I FREAKING LOVE DEADLOCK
@veiledhunter3088
@veiledhunter3088 6 ай бұрын
Damn pAura was a beast in this match and by extension the entire series. I think FNC did pretty well considering they’re subbing in a rookie for their best player. I think it’s refreshing that the ascent meta is finally changing and hope it will continue to do so
@nousagi5837
@nousagi5837 6 ай бұрын
i use tht sonic sensor under haven all the time, its pretty funny coz they hav no way to hit and no clue where the sound is from
@KiraProyect
@KiraProyect 6 ай бұрын
Ive been maining deadlock since her release and what I can say for sure is her kit is better when you're attacking and have to set up for post plant.
@rf7182
@rf7182 6 ай бұрын
Only pick Deadlock if you have great macro and mid round call as attacker, it is really hard to enter the site without initiator and rely on use omen's utility. But really strong post plant
@EmilyB42
@EmilyB42 6 ай бұрын
M80 (also in T2 NA) runs a version of this with Yoru instead of Jett for the flashes. Also cooks. Should our to DZ (formally TTR) the goats of deadlock for inspiring all these teams
@theunovanative7640
@theunovanative7640 6 ай бұрын
I know nothing about Valorant Esports but I saw BBL in the title and I clicked
@xanman2003
@xanman2003 6 ай бұрын
Does this comp work with KJ I wonder? Is the extra hard info from the cam necessary to make up for the loss of the knife or are the two interchangeable as a second sentinel
@loslobo_
@loslobo_ 6 ай бұрын
m80 comps with yoru looks more promising than the jett variation ngl.
@rozenzoon
@rozenzoon 6 ай бұрын
I main deadlock, but personally I have a difficult time using my util to aid my teammates. I knly use deadlock to ckntrol the environment around myself
@mrduckrush1939
@mrduckrush1939 6 ай бұрын
Would it be bad to put a fade and raze in for Jett and sova the comp would have a lot of synergy and different ways to find info aswell as hard clear angles also raze it is possible to op obviously worse than Jett but if that’s the big issue it shouldn’t be
@goostav8235
@goostav8235 6 ай бұрын
I feel like they might want to use yoru or raze with this comp, so you have some more util for execs and retakes
@paultorch26
@paultorch26 6 ай бұрын
bbl drizzy... oooooo bbl drizzy wait
@AbramMatthew68
@AbramMatthew68 6 ай бұрын
Bruh if more pro teams start playing deadlock riot is gonna nerf her. While as a deadlock main it makes me happy that shes getting more play; at the same time I liked destroying people in ranked with her bcz people had no idea she was this good xD
@cheap272
@cheap272 6 ай бұрын
Never thought id see the day deadlock was meta, rare riot W
@Hailoow
@Hailoow 6 ай бұрын
just finished my a level exams just in time for vct americas
@darciheadswillroll
@darciheadswillroll 6 ай бұрын
As a deadlock main her stocks rises
@sagetarus1
@sagetarus1 6 ай бұрын
As a sentinel main, now hopefully everyone can stfu about how her sensors are bad because they can't watch flank (because they're not meant for that). Once people realize that there are places where enemies are forced to make noise, it's clear to see how great she can be.
@Tze52
@Tze52 6 ай бұрын
Stop encouraging my brain dead teammates. They'd don't know how to use or capitalise
@fedjavuckovic5920
@fedjavuckovic5920 6 ай бұрын
Who is Hiro ? What happened to Leo, he was a true gigachad and carry for this squad ?
@yukkiriko
@yukkiriko 6 ай бұрын
good comp but too much 1v1 and clutches that wins fnc around, i wouldn't say this is a bad comp but if you can adapt like fnc do like in this game then sure.
@just_hage8862
@just_hage8862 6 ай бұрын
Destroyed is a strong word for this set😂
@dean988
@dean988 6 ай бұрын
ive been saying deadlock is super underrated, she just requires a very different play style and game plan for everything. that last round is a good example of what deadlock can do even without wall; her net grabbed the guy behind the wall so he cant leave the scan and dies, her ult grabs someone whos normally safe and will be a nuisance and he dies, and in the last 1v2 her trip isolates a 1v1 for her and chronicle wins i also think it could’ve been cool if, on later rounds when they throw the wall in their spawn to deny rotates (at this point bbl started countering that specific wall by having more players on B and/or flying over the wall with jett), they could throw a smoke on the wall and instead go A from their spawn and pinch it with a guy going tree from mid
@ambasing69
@ambasing69 6 ай бұрын
I didn’t know BBL drizzy plays Valorant
@saibotshawdow5090
@saibotshawdow5090 6 ай бұрын
The day we get an iso deadlock clove comp in ascent is the day I’ll finally like this map.
@Sunrisu
@Sunrisu 6 ай бұрын
Nah clove is a boring ass character and Brim combos with Deadlock way better than Clove ever could
@saibotshawdow5090
@saibotshawdow5090 6 ай бұрын
@@Sunrisu brim boring wym
@morasiregar1052
@morasiregar1052 6 ай бұрын
These setups are the kind of silver-gold comp setups in APAC server 😅
@ferdysontanwira2690
@ferdysontanwira2690 6 ай бұрын
leo moved?
@truce3038
@truce3038 6 ай бұрын
thinking man's politics waiting room
@12mulesandy
@12mulesandy 6 ай бұрын
I'm no pro think of me as a valorant caveman but when I watched this series (and game) it did not look like two top teams playing. And to be clear both of them looks sus.
@ytwqm
@ytwqm 6 ай бұрын
why u calling my pookie fnatic bad >:(
@gollyjollyer8124
@gollyjollyer8124 6 ай бұрын
Chronicle is the truth
@JoshAMagpantay
@JoshAMagpantay 6 ай бұрын
BBL DRIZZAAAAAY BBL DRIZZZAAAAAAYYYYYY
@AlterAce
@AlterAce 6 ай бұрын
Deadlock is hot tbh 🙃
@wisedwon
@wisedwon 6 ай бұрын
Fnatic destroyed a BBL? pause
@rhythmplayzz
@rhythmplayzz 6 ай бұрын
BBL Deadlock
@frostedmiko5071
@frostedmiko5071 6 ай бұрын
already spreading the agenda I see
@joaovictordioud7242
@joaovictordioud7242 6 ай бұрын
Drizzy
@sword8392
@sword8392 6 ай бұрын
title "Fnatic DESTROYED BBL" tmv "this is an example of fnatic playing pretty bad, and there were quite a few examples in this game across all the maps of fnatic being quite bad"
@zensawa271
@zensawa271 6 ай бұрын
BBL should sign drake.
@jodgey4
@jodgey4 6 ай бұрын
FNC = flashes are dumb lol LOUD = MOAR FLASHES MOAR BETTERER i wanna see them play each other 😢
@nahna_3743
@nahna_3743 6 ай бұрын
bbl drizzy
@Wamuneeig
@Wamuneeig 6 ай бұрын
BBL Reazy
@popsmackle8039
@popsmackle8039 6 ай бұрын
if bbl had drizzy they would have won
@un4mezz
@un4mezz 6 ай бұрын
BBL DRIZZY
@Magnum69
@Magnum69 6 ай бұрын
OOO AAA EEE
@Rck..
@Rck.. 6 ай бұрын
F N C
@krullos9036
@krullos9036 6 ай бұрын
They almost lost XD
@nandanbhat2327
@nandanbhat2327 6 ай бұрын
Where is Leo????
@Kure1i
@Kure1i 6 ай бұрын
sick so hiro is subbing in
@Oblix122
@Oblix122 6 ай бұрын
Still think Emea is a boring region to watch
@coolingchips1410
@coolingchips1410 6 ай бұрын
nice TMShave
@shadowduds
@shadowduds 6 ай бұрын
Where is Fnatic Leo???
@AdilKhan-uq2nm
@AdilKhan-uq2nm 6 ай бұрын
Currently inactive because of health issues
@coolingchips1410
@coolingchips1410 6 ай бұрын
hello rango
@soulzuki
@soulzuki 6 ай бұрын
Destroyed BBL??? Please leave drake alone T.T lol
@ugotisa
@ugotisa 6 ай бұрын
I never liked deadlock but, this has swayed my stance a bit
@Virtual__Vortex
@Virtual__Vortex 6 ай бұрын
when new agent is played on a map tmv : is this agent the new meta 😂😂
@bazralian9326
@bazralian9326 6 ай бұрын
Deadlock has actually become almost meta on Ascent in T2. M80 even started running Yoru to fix the Flash/Info problems.
@Michael-qg2rx
@Michael-qg2rx 6 ай бұрын
Valorant is a tactical game, I don't know why there are fixed/meta comps for certain maps. Sure in low elo meta comps should work, but in high elo and in pro games where everyone has a similarly high frag level, surely mixing agents and having different strats with them should win you most games. This should be obvious..
@bronyafan
@bronyafan 6 ай бұрын
Because those fixed comps usually work better than other comps, so why reinvent the wheel?
@Michael-qg2rx
@Michael-qg2rx 6 ай бұрын
@@bronyafan Apart from the fact that it's boring playing the same comps, if you surprise your opponents, there's a high chance of getting destroyed or destroying your opponents. I think it's worth the risk.
@bronyafan
@bronyafan 6 ай бұрын
@@Michael-qg2rx the chance of losing is rather higher than the chance of winning imo, since the fixed comp is probably objectively better than any other comp, and a good igl with a good coach will probably be able to easily counter strat other comps, since the fixed comp is picked by every team for a reason
@Michael-qg2rx
@Michael-qg2rx 6 ай бұрын
@@bronyafan I see your point though but this video kind of shows why changing fixed comps works, loud did it against sentinels on ascent too. Maybe after a team plays fixed comp on a map twice they change the comp the next time and revert back to fixed after that. I think alternating catches your opponent off guard, instead of using the same comp every time on a map.
@skriimz1143
@skriimz1143 6 ай бұрын
BBL DRIZZY 🗣️🗣️🗣️
@FikSterio
@FikSterio 6 ай бұрын
Finally some comp variation on ascent... ascent is so boooring to watch at pro play
@vincentc978
@vincentc978 6 ай бұрын
0 views fell off
@Peepofangirl
@Peepofangirl 6 ай бұрын
0 likes on your comments, you fell off
@Samuel-oy4fd
@Samuel-oy4fd 6 ай бұрын
@@Peepofangirl 0 likes on your comments, you fell off
@twopairsofchops2036
@twopairsofchops2036 6 ай бұрын
​@@Samuel-oy4fd 0 likes on your comments, you fell off
@jeffeyL
@jeffeyL 6 ай бұрын
@@twopairsofchops2036 0 likes on your comments, you fell off
@jonnyives5018
@jonnyives5018 6 ай бұрын
@@jeffeyL 0 likes on your comments, you fell off
@dorito29
@dorito29 6 ай бұрын
BBL drizzy
@ugotisa
@ugotisa 6 ай бұрын
I never liked deadlock but, this has swayed my stance a bit
@Rck..
@Rck.. 6 ай бұрын
OOO AAA EEE
@ugotisa
@ugotisa 6 ай бұрын
I never liked deadlock but, this has swayed my stance a bit
@yourbelovedautumn
@yourbelovedautumn 6 ай бұрын
you aren't using her correctly, think of her as a mix of sage and an initiator in a way rather than a normal sentinel
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