How FromSoftware Became PlayStation's Greatest Failure

[@connorryan2715]

As a PlayStation player, I’m glad this panned out the way it did. Xbox and PC players deserve to be able to play Fromsoft games. Everyone does

[@EndymionTv]

Agreed

[@windymun]

Now we deserve a bloodborne 60fps patch, pc port and even on other platforms

[@Calathil]

Agreed, console exclusivity sucks tbh.

[@iamMildlyUpsetWithMostOfYouTub]

Unfortunately y’all still have the luck of having bloodborne.

[@matthiasbreuer8710]

Exactly. Exclusives benefit noone but the platform owner.

[@manafon5398]

The story of how Sony Entertainment's CEO rage quitted a game, called it trash, picked it up later, decided to GIT GUD and ended up loving it. More or less what most souls fans first experience with the games were, I give him credit for owning up to his mistake!

[@Oakshield2]

Yeah, he went through the grinder and came out better for it. Although, I didn't rage quit, I just got straight up very anxious when playing it for a long time, had to play in 1-2 hour increments, used to get all sweaty. Eventually you accept the rinse and repeat and it becomes so much fun.

[@torahibiki]

I still think is fake. And he just saying shit out of his ass to pretend he likes a video game because now it's making money.

[@hystericbunny76]

omg, same thing happened to me, i am a pretty good gamer, my sis bought me ds3, and my 1st impression was, wtf? graphics are bad, controls are clunky, and gundyr was destroying me, after i get passed him, high wall of lothric was a nightmare, specially after passing the dragon, you will meet the 1st lothric knight, literally made me rage quit, i thought the game was so bad, its impossible, and lack story and design, i came back to playing alot of flashy, cool games, after a month, i realize, did ds3 really just destroyed my pride? i came back at ds3 when i understand it, i think the game was really good, i became really good at it, ive done no damage to all boss, i did the same thing from nioh 2 and elden ring. i think these games are incredibly addicting.

[@christianluke2961]

This is the same with my journey on Bloodborne. I hated it at first because of its difficulty and never played it again. Eventually I got myself to try it again, was a rough start. But I really really love it now! It's so addicting and rewarding hahaha

[@gokux75]

You would think game journalists would also be able to do the same lol.

[@soronir3526]

It was basically the Dark Souls of Sony's failures.

[@EndymionTv]

Literally

[@GrindyVine]

@@EndymionTv and relatable

[@lucascarracedo7421]

Every time I remember about what happened with DeS, I think about how many potentially great games never happened because of stupid corporative decisions made by people who probably have no idea about games. Having said that, what this video fails to mention is that From got big when it reached other platforms, especially PC. Even with how bad the original DS port for PC was, it was after that that From became a household name. And they would probably never have found the same success if it wasn't for not being a Sony exclusive anymore. They could have stayed niche forever. A game being good, or even excellent, doesn't mean it will actually achieve commercial success.

[@andriebenedict7288]

Now.. Now.. Everyone made mistakes. At least there is something good coming out of it.

[@klefthoofrobert787]

Agreed, i think the creators of God of War realized this as well, when they made the right call to release the 2018 one to PC, and it's fucking disgustingly awesome game, why keep this from a PC audience is beyond reason. However, Sony did get me to spend 500 USD for a PS4pro...unfortunately my love for Fromsoft games did not stop and i HAD to play bloodborne, and since PS NOW does not include my country (Romania) it was my only option...best money i spent though ;)) no regrets, Bloodborne was worth the 500 usd.

[@lucascarracedo7421]

@@klefthoofrobert787 Yeah fully agree. Same case. I got a PS4Pro basically for BB. Also, the PSNow version didn't have the DLC at the time. Hopefully Sony will continue releasing "exclusives" to PC, even if it's a couple years down the line, like they have been doing with few select titles. And yeah, Bloodborne is worth it. I really hope it actually comes to PC at some point and we get to play it with better graphic fidelity. I don't expect fancy stuff, I don't want a remake, just higher resolution and better framerate / frame pacing is enough.

[@klefthoofrobert787]

@@lucascarracedo7421 Oh yeah baby, can't wait to see 60fps with sharpened textures mods and other improvements :D besides the obviously more powerful platform (PC) we also have awesome mods, something you can't ever get on a console unless you sacrifice it and jailbreak it.

[@lucascarracedo7421]

@@klefthoofrobert787 yeah it's time for BB to come to PC. Hope next years is the year and we finally get it. Even as it is, just having higher resolution and decent AA would help highlight a lot of the textures and details that are already there. I suspect it will also do really well with people new to From's games that liked Elden Ring's combat but feel Dark Souls is a bit too slow for their personal taste, and find Sekiro a bit foreign in terms of general mood (and probably too difficulty for some).

[@Sir_Him]

I don't think FromSoftware being acquired back then would have been a good thing. I feel like one of the reasons they became such a mega hit is because Bandai Namco published Dark Souls on everything they could at the time. It was widely available, so people who didn't have the chance go play Demon's Souls were able to give the genre a try with Dark Souls. Had FromSoft been acquired, then their games would have remained on Sony's platforms. They would have sold well, sure, but I don't think they would have become a cultural phenomenon.

[@EndymionTv]

You’re probably right

[@souljastation5463]

@@EndymionTv Hi, I'd like to let you know that you made a mistake in the video: Bandai Namco published Demon's Souls in the west, not Atlus.

[@iMoevious]

@@souljastation5463 Atlus published DeS in US while Bamco published it in Europe

[@souljastation5463]

@@iMoevious You're right, Bandai Namco published the game in all the Western countries except US and Canada, so it's fair to say that Bamco was the western publisher.

[@AirLancer]

@@souljastation5463 They were a western publisher, not the western publisher.

[@Rever900]

Miyazaki made the right choice. If they find out it was hard, making it too easy would not fun. Souls in general is about struggle and perseverance. And if you got friends, struggle, suffer, and preserver together.

[@asidionprimus1226]

Complacency won't be the down fall of games, it's the lack of a challenge.

[@bf2man106]

Honestly, you cant understate how large FS and the souls series had an impact on the gaming genre and truly I think without the souls series games would be very bleak to say the least or hey maybe even nfts persevered

[@assafsharabi4473]

Honestly i love the hardness of souls like but it often comes with over complicated structure of the lore and a lot of problems like quests

[@KindOldRaven]

Hilarious -- but just goes to show that anyone willing to deviate from ''known successes'' will basically be shunned, even though it could turn out to be exactly what huge amounts of people are looking for.

[@EndymionTv]

Exactly

[@Sci-Fi_Freak_YT]

I say this about a lot of stuff I’m interested in (as you can tell from my icon) I’m a huge Snyder DC fan and his work is what I want in that genre. People may not see it but I do, same here with souls I tell my brother and cousins how amazing these games are and they think I’m crazy saying “it’s to hard” or “it’s boring” if only they knew.

[@blokin5039]

@@Sci-Fi_Freak_YT Knew what?

[@Sci-Fi_Freak_YT]

@@blokin5039 how great and rewarding Souls games are over Fortnite.

[@keysersoze9651]

@@Sci-Fi_Freak_YT well tbh any game would look like a masterpiece of you compare it with fortnite

[@spacedoctor5620]

The most important thing to keep in mind, is that if Sony had purchased them, Dark Souls wouldn’t even exist. Dark Souls is by definition only a property because of the deal with Bandai. That means that we all would have missed out on that series, as well as probably as Bloodbourne which they probably couldn’t have made without the experience from Dark Souls. Crazy to think about.

[@gamernation1400]

In some alternate dimension we got Demon Souls 2 instead of Dark Souls.

[@R1SKbreaker]

Only in name. Dark Souls would have likely been the same game basically, just probably titled Demon's Souls 2. Bloodbourne and Elden probably would have happened too. Well unless Sony intervened heavily or something.

[@gamernation1400]

@@R1SKbreaker The same game? What? As far as I remember Dark Souls 1 while mechanically very similar to Demon Souls is still a completely separate world with a much more different art style tone, level design, lore. A Demon Souls 2 would have been a completely different game. The need to do all of this is because they couldn’t use the Demons IP.

[@R1SKbreaker]

@@gamernation1400 I think it would have been fairly close. Demon's Souls would have evolved, so I think stuff like level design would have been the same. Some lore differences in some ways, sure, but I'm pretty sure DeS 2 would have had the same kind of large interconnected level design that Dark Souls had in comparison to the hub style DeS had.

[@lez075]

Dark Souls would exist, but it'd be called Demon's Souls 2.

[@Nastuf]

I love it judging how Sony is acting lately they deserved to miss out on FromSoftware's full success I don't think the series would have been as good underneath their wing. Check out how many studios Sony acquired and subsequently destroyed sometime.

[@nrnjn8547]

Ye no that's Microsoft. Their best game is still under Sony. Actually most of the amazing game studios are thriving under Sony. Now Microsoft, what they did to Rare, I will not forget. And that's just 1 studio off the top of my head

[@CharcharoExplorer]

@@nrnjn8547 Generally, the best studios and games belong to neither Sony nor Nintendo nor MS.

[@nrnjn8547]

@@CharcharoExplorer they belong to oobisoft

[@CharcharoExplorer]

@@nrnjn8547 No. More like GSC, Valve, CDPR, indie studios etc.

[@nrnjn8547]

@@CharcharoExplorer Nintendo lost to oobisoft

[@billbadson7598]

I’m confident that if Sony had purchased From at the beginning, From would not be anything like where they are now. It would be impossible to keep the megacorp fingers from grasping at the work and changing it.

[@donk8961]

Fromsoft and Miyazaki are one of the most touching tales in the games industry. A company so stubborn it nearly failed, lost deals, refused to change, and finally the world and technology caught up with their visions.

[@moonwolf8470]

This makes me realize that there’s a lot people like Miyazaki, but they failed and their visions passed into irrelevancy. And we don’t even know about it. Such tragedy.

[@vinodchhabria8738]

All hail the one and only Total Biscuit, without whose PETITION, Dark Souls would NOT have been ported to PC. Fromsoftware never liked porting games to PC and they are still not good at it. It was TOTAL BISCUIT and friends who helped push Bandai Namco to even consider bringing it on PC. RIP my friend.

[@EndymionTv]

Miss that guys content, he was a legend

[@erikarnold4737]

I wonder how Miyazaki felt that first night when he learned a lot of players actually did love his vision.

[@GrahamChapman]

Developer: Mr. Miyazaki? Miyazaki: Yes? D: You were right. M: I know. D: No, I mean, about the game. M: Yes. D: It's a resounding success. M: ... D: People love it, sir. M: ... D: It's as appreciated as ice-cream on a sunny summer day. M: I'm waiting for the part where you tell me what I do not already know. D: But-- whu-- tha-- you-- M: I made a game that people would love, and you're telling me people loved it... What's so surprising about any of that? D: But, the initial numbers, sir-- M: --were inevitable, given the premise: People who have been eating nothing but crap shat out by a greedy market for years will think a serving of lobster thermidor aux crevettes with a mornay sauce, garnished with truffle pâté, brandy and a fried egg on top tastes weird compared to what they're used to. But give them time, and they will suddenly realize that they've been eating crap for years, and that though what you are serving them may not be for everyone, it is at the very least actual food.

[@imnotjiggz2611]

You mean how he felt when he became a God?

[@JakeTheStakeNowIn3D5024]

Miyazaki: They love me... they really love me! 😂

[@DeltaVTango]

When he said he spent 2 hours playing the game and was still at the start. I felt that. I'd tell my gf when I first got into dark souls that I'd spend hours playing just to make incremental progress, but it was so satisfing winning after getting my ass handed to me over and over that I couldnt get enough. Me and a friend CoOped DS1 and DS3 but we kept ending up in different places in 2, but we'll get there. I'm from software is finally getting the recognition it deserves

[@GrindyVine]

The game is hard but that doesn't mean it's bad because it's hard Those type of people need to realize that there's a reason why games had genres and sub genres Games are both meant and not meant for everyone at the same time and everyone need to understand that before buying any from software games

[@mickpratt8327]

I went in blind to Bloodborne and literally spent my first 2 4hr sessions in Yarnham city before I discovered the first shortcut. Miyazaki does not handhold.

[@julimayor]

Thank god they missed it, f*ck exclusivity in gaming. Btw really nice video, well researched, narrated and edited.

[@EndymionTv]

Thanks for watching & leaving a comment 🤘🏻

[@jub8891]

they still got bloodborne though

[@Metalton95]

@@jub8891 Which is honestly a little too good for them. What a game! I pity those who still haven't had the opportunity to play it.

[@anukthotawatta982]

@@jub8891 and look how they mascaraed the game by giving it terrible anti aliasing, maximum 30 fps and 720P resolution

[@len1802]

The title trap the attention, I clicked to see what's in it, and it's cool the history beneath the Demon's Souls creation and all this stuff

[@EndymionTv]

Thanks for watching

[@kokorochacarero8003]

I think Soulsborne games being Sony exclusives would've been a terrible state of affairs for gaming in general. Good for Sony's shareholders in the short term, bad for the consumer, terrible for the industry AND the franchise Hell, I still think Bloodborne remaining a Playstation exclusive is an absolute videogame sin

[@derek96720]

Still one of the only Souls games I haven't played. It's a crime it doesn't have a public PC port and is confined to PS live.

[@AdventuresOfGravox]

@@derek96720 It’s worth buying a used ps4 to play it as it’s the best soulsbourne game imo. I don’t think it’s going to ever release on PC, it’s just copium

[@shadowdancer5330]

Ps4 master race lol

[@zaixoz]

@@shadowdancer5330 🤓

[@arnur1237]

Tbh, i'm kinda glad that it remains to be an exclusive. Boodblorne fanatics are very annoying, at least it keeps them in sort of prison

[@toledochristianmatthew9919]

You also forgot to mention that Demon Souls was originally meant to be a reboot of Kingsfield that was meant to be Sony's answer to Elder Scrolls Oblivion at the time. From literally described the game was originally meant to be an Elder Scrolls clone. It was because Microsoft had exclusive rights to the game at the time and it would take a whole year before it would come to the PS3. It was the reason Miyazaki wanted to scrap the idea as he knew it was foolish to compete with Elder Scrolls and he had to convince everyone to switch to third person instead of the 1st person gameplay they have built and had experience.

[@EndymionTv]

Thanks for watching, I kinda noticed this topic wasn't covered anywhere on KZbin ( that I could find ) so here ya go. Lemme know what you think. Subscribe for more, I'm gonna go back and grind Destiny 2 now Edit: Super Thanks are now available for anyone wanting to support the channel, thank you.

[@BubbaJinko]

Very interesting watch my man. And not to mention it's also a good switch up from regular Souls content so well done 👌

[@EndymionTv]

@@BubbaJinko Thank you! That was the idea. I enjoy making stuff like this the most imo

[@lucascarracedo7421]

@@EndymionTv yeah it's great watching content about the context of these games along in-game content coverage. It's crazy to think how this particular situation with Sony ended up shaping the next decade of games to a great extent. Proper butterfly effect stuff.

[@EndymionTv]

@@lucascarracedo7421 Exactly, I want to make more stuff like this cause it’s more fun to me

[@toledochristianmatthew9919]

I think Matt McMuscles made a video about it. Even referencing it in his DS2 episode and how Sony missed out on having the Souls series as exclusives. But other than that I am glad you got to talk about. More people need to know the history behind this series and how amazing Miyazaki and the FromSoft team was at crafting their vision.

[@d.a.f.]

Loved this look into this aspect of FromSoftware's history!!!

[@EndymionTv]

Thank you for watching, happy you enjoyed it 🤙🏼🔥

[@wordonice4457]

If Sony had acquired FromSoft, they would have forced Miyazaki to focus more on cinematics gameplay, much like Last of Us, and less on critical gameplay like we have now. They would have frustrated Miyazaki out of the company. It's great things turned out this way

[@TheTruem4n]

Yeah like bloodborne.. Oh wait

[@wordonice4457]

@@TheTruem4n Bloodborne was from a different era. You're talking about the Sony of today that is far more interested in churning out Last of Us remakes in favour of original IPs with quality gameplay. If Sony had acquired FromSoft, there's no way we would have games like Elden Ring or even the previous Souls games

[@rb9882]

Honestly I’m glad Fromsoft blessed other platforms. Changed my life

[@faizrochmad6630]

"Sony contact From Soft to make Elder Scroll competitor, the initial plan is make King Fields new entry" - McMuscles. Pretty weird if Miyazaki didnt take the project and it ended as King Field with Elder Scroll Oblivion twist

[@leonardarcilla7745]

It's disappointing that this only went as far back as Demon's Souls, when FromSoftware started with the King's Field games on the original Playstation, both of which being the spiritual predecessors to Demon's Souls and Dark Souls.

[@derrickcrowe3888]

You're a hipster, we get it. But this video wasn't a "History of FromSoftware". It's about a specific interaction with Sony regarding publishing Demon's Souls. King's Field wasn't mentioned because it has nothing to do with this story.

[@strayzilla]

I understand the first thoughts on Demon's Souls. I rented it from blockbuster and probably died 40 times in the first hour and promptly returned it. I happened to buy it again on an Amazon sale for 7 bucks just as a collection piece. Broke my leg and was off for months and started playing it again. I fell in love with the series after learning the mechanics. And playing a dirty mage. Demon's Souls was one of those rare great games where almost any build was a good one. You weren't hindered by a bad build because you could make it up with items and playstyle.

[@crimes]

This is similar to the story about Harry Potter. Pretty much all the big publishers passed on it and it was only because a secretary at a publishing house read it to her child that this was ever even considered. A lot of the time big genre changing titles are so out there that they are difficult to see the audience its made for.

[@RoosSkywalker]

Glad Sony made this mistake, less exclusives means more people get to enjoy it.

[@thecircleoft.e.d2121]

So the moral of the story is: Hold back specific bits of information during the pitch to make what you want? Okay, writing that down...

[@EndymionTv]

Exactly, fake it til you make it 🤙🏼

[@JohnA...]

Not sure that should be the take away here. Yes this time he managed to make what he somewhat wanted, but if it wasn't for already established titles in their history and some luck it might have very likely have not been published at all. I personally think the Souls/Borne games have some interesting gameplay and think of them as great games but I don't personally enjoy playing them either that much (mostly because of the fragmented and hidden lore) so I can easily see where he might have taken it to Bandai and gotten the exact same response. While Demon Souls, and even Dark Souls, did okay they didn't really take off in mainstream popularity until Bloodborne and then many more people went back to play the others with a better understanding of what they were about. Things turned out okay, but he might have been better off just being honest and open about what his vision was to begin with. If he had taken the time to explain what he was going for the guy might have taken the time to get a little better and felt the thrill of overcoming the hardships at the beginning of the Souls games then decided to sign onto it. I'm certainly no fan of exclusives, but think of the difference in funding the might have had with Sony compared to Bandai.

[@catboynestormakhno2694]

its just great when, you have to hide projects from the managment in a creative studio cause its too uniqe, truly a mark of a healthy gaming market

[@greypolar2720]

One thing I want to mention about Fromsoft is that even before Miyazaki came along, the games still had the same vibe. King's Field, Echo Night, Shadow Tower, etc. I'm sure he's done a lot for the company and the success of Fromsoft, but it seems he may have joined the company cause he was already into the style they were known for, not the innovator of it.

[@Azure9577]

Armored core Miyazaki worked on the 4th gen ac games

[@greypolar2720]

@@Azure9577 I know.

[@yoruneko34]

A LOT of people thought DS was bad at the time, it wasn't met like a masterpiece AT ALL when it was released, even tho it sold way more than expected and was hard to find for a time. Only Gamespot named it Game of the year, and if you watch that video they really got the game and admired it, other game outlets didn't even consider it.

[@noelienoelie8425]

I remember picking up a Japanese import march 2010 from cex of all places. Thought the back of the box looked interesting so I took a chance on it. Changed gaming for me forever.

[@kenjin6666]

I love the fact that Sony didn't have the foresight necessary to gobble up From Software, thus helping a lot of people that don't own consoles enjoy their great games. I admit, I'm biased but I'd really love to be able to play Bloodborne on PC seeing as consoles in my country are very expensive (for me at least). While writing this I can't help but wonder what exquisite and visionary games were overlooked or right-out refused by the clueless old farts at the head of Sony just because...corporate reasons.

[@mikehikes710]

A gaming PC is cheaper then a console in your country? A PC that could run newer Fromsoft games would cost around $1000 here. Vs a Xbox1 or PS4 is around $200 new

[@kyledavis4325]

@@mikehikes710 Consoles are insanely more expensive in a lot of devloping countries.

[@tryvocative6855]

@@mikehikes710 Well I'm in Australia and a PC is better bang for buck over here.

[@opgroundzero2.0]

@@mikehikes710 consoles are overly expensive here in Vietnam. PCs barely cost anything by comparison

[@Axxxel_in_Harlem]

@@opgroundzero2.0 Depends on the specs of the PC.

[@AlphaPsionic]

I remember seeing Demon's Souls on Playstation, and all relevant playthroughs, and cursing myself for not being able to own a play station ( needed PC for work + entertainment. Could not afford a separate machine). Then Skyrim launched and got lost in that, during which time i got super-hyped and sad at the same time when Dark Souls launched, but only on consoles again. Went batshit crazy when Artorias of the Abyss launched as DLC and just resigned myself to my fate. Then early to mid 2012 , they announced the prepare to die to edition and lost a headphone in the process as i jumped with cable still plugged in XD, but was absolutely appalled at the state of the PC port, but then, in jumps Durante with his DSFix , an absolute hero he was for the whole community. Haven't looked back since, some of the greatest gaming experiences of the past decade. Still , DeS and Bloodborne are the ones still missing from my catalogue, as they are still console exclusives. Funnily enough, Fromsoftware would never have achieved the same fame by remaining a Sony Studio. It was the release of the 'Prepare to Die' edition on PC that absolutely catapulted them into...forget stratosphere....i'd say catapulted them into the exosphere! IMO - Sekrio remains their greatest till date, however gladly willing to re-consider once i have played Bloodborne.

[@ralphjiandelacruz9593]

another man's trash is another man's treasure.

[@EndymionTv]

I am trash

[@derek96720]

@@EndymionTv Let trash TAKE THE WORLD!

[@ralphjiandelacruz9593]

@@EndymionTv I do too

[@hoseinzanganeh3194]

I think that was for the best. I think if Sony decided to acquire From then they would interfere their project. I think From should remain independent but do more project like bloodborne, I mean taking budget from Sony and Microsoft to create games for them.

[@rugerblack1124]

Game devs when they realise people who play video games want some challenge and not constant hand holding 😲😮😧😮😧😯😧😲😮😯😯😮😮😯😯

[@Darth_Bateman]

Honestly? When you become an item on a list of product creators , you have to be built with the greatest common denominator in mind. Even Elden Ring had to make compromises. They had to optimize bosses with summons in mind, which is something the established souls community either HATED or didn’t know about. I went through the game as a lone mage, and used the one shot magic drink as a last resort. Then the Godskin duo ruined all of that. I had NO clue that I was supposed to summon and upgrade my summons. I didn’t have that problem with Melina. And you know what? I had a damn good time. It’s like….yeah she was whipping my ass and my summon died on phase 2, but she had a kryptonite. When she uses scarlet aeonia, she stays in place to rot the area. I popped my physick and dropped the meteorite of Astel. I honestly liked this fight style better. How we turn Dark Souls into an all out anime brawl.

[@_sin80ti_58]

Fromsoft is literally the best dev out right now. They stick to a formula they know people love,they don’t cater to any political agenda they just make the games people love and it works flawlessly. They put enough content in the games but not to much and not to little that balances just right. Myazaki is damn genuine genius. Bloodborne needs to be remastered and released on all plats. Fuck Sony for doing stupid exclusive bs everyone deserves to play these masterpiece’s of games.

[@jellyjelly6474]

Incredible, you have a quite staggering amount of bad takes

[@Digger-Nick]

Gaming has been pretty stale lately so saying they are the "best" doesn't say much. Elden ring was kinda bad, we haven't had a new Rockstar game yet and no new elder scrolls or fallout, bannerlord won't be finished for several years still, etc.

[@_sin80ti_58]

@@Digger-Nick gaming has been stale ever since the end of the ps3 and Xbox 360 area bud. However fromsoft games have never been stale period. They’ve always sold well and continue to do so even more after elden ring. Which btw has sold a shit ton and has been praised by pretty much every major site and famous gaming KZbinr so I think you just have a bad take on it and don’t like it cause you don’t personally like or can’t handle soulslike or soulsborne game. Rockstar is crap btw they have been for a while most agree on this too. Elder scrolls was good but it still imo doesn’t match up to froms game. So to say elden ring was bad is a pretty horrible take when you really narrow down statistics of what it is and brings to the table that other games have and do not do. Stale gaming or not this game is a masterpiece it’s not perfect but no game is but it’s the best game that has came out in the last 5 to 6 years hands down.

[@Digger-Nick]

@@_sin80ti_58 Bro vanilla Oblivion had more content than elden ring lmao. I full cleared elden ring in 150 hours and there was nothing left to do. "Best game" in the last 5 to 6 years is Red Dead 2. No fromsoft game even comes close to the amount of storytelling or detail these games have. You fanboys ruined the game by hyping it up so much like it was the next grand rpg or something when it isn't even half of that.

[@DeathcoreManiac]

@@Digger-Nick dude I love red dead2 but elden ring and bloodborne are easily better... And elder scrolls games are hella overrated the combat in them is terribly boring

[@tryvocative6855]

Exclusives are greedy and shouldn't even be a thing. I don't want to buy a piece of plastic I don't like in order to play a game I might like. Make something decent that has innovation that people might enjoy and then choose over the competition.

[@gravethebeyond]

Looks at elden ring and all the souls games sold and laugh's at PlayStation and sony. Meanwhile Bandai see's a great opportunity swoops in to save the day.

[@EndymionTv]

I mean the majority of FS’s games sell on PlayStation regardless, and I think it’s only a matter of time before somebody buys them

[@gravethebeyond]

@@EndymionTv So very true. ^_^

[@lahunica2726]

@@EndymionTv They belong to Kadokawa so unless they're willing to sell a profitable part of their company or being offered a lot of money, I don't see that happening soon.

[@ab-hx8qe]

Sony is a business that dabbles in games, but they are still just one tiny sector of the company. It’s not surprising a bunch of suits couldn’t see what they had when even most gamers couldn’t appreciate the games at the time.

[@Sephiroth9981]

I quit the original and didn’t pick it up till like 6-7 years later. When I did I realized just how much this was the kind of challenge in games I was looking for. I just didn’t understand it but I’m so glad I gave it a try again. Now I’m a total fan. I have made a goal to platinum all fromssoft games. I have gotten the platinum on Ds1,3,bloodborne, both versions of Elden ring, demons souls remake and I’m working on sekiro and DS2. I love them!

[@EndymionTv]

I’m currently going for platinum in Ds2. Then Ds3 then I have them all. Getting all the spells in Ds2 is annoying right now lol I’m going through dlc’s and I need those spells too 😩

[@Sephiroth9981]

@@EndymionTv that’s awesome mate! I’m actually going to get one and 2 done on the ps3 as well as original demons souls that I’m just 2 trophies away from getting but my save got corrupted so I have to start fresh. Still haven’t gotten over the pain. I had a level 400 plus character 😩

[@EndymionTv]

@@Sephiroth9981 That is brutal dude. I’m playing the PS4 version of Ds2. So you need all dlc spells for those trophies too. This sunken king area is confusing as hell I haven’t played the game in years 😤😪

[@Sephiroth9981]

@@EndymionTv I know right. I haven’t played that one in ages and I feel so lost. I need it though to complete my list and add to my trophy hunting! I want to keep climbing that list.

[@havel7715]

how playstation became fromsoftware's greatest failure* that's the correct title, the only reason bloodborne and demon's souls were sold so relatively bad is because being exclusive

[@LyraniaLothar]

Not sure what to feel about what you said. Giant publishers often (if not always) destroy the studio they acquire either by putting deadlines or meddling with the studio's creativity. Blizzard, Westwood, Rare, Creative Assembly, the list goes on and on.

[@YannMetalhead]

If Sony had acquired Fromsoftware they would have changed Miyazaki vision turning Dark Souls in a complete different game. Thank God they didn't.

[@thetower8553]

Dark souls would probably not even be a thing. They'd probably just be churning out sequels to Demon's souls.

[@pyatig]

Girl blooming into a babe with Amelia looking at you is S tier, great editing!

[@residentgrigo4701]

Hidetaka Miyazaki directed Armored Core 4 and For Answer before Demon´s Souls and worked on Armored Core: Last Raven before that but he was in the industry for only 5 years in 2009 with 4 games under his belt.

[@nomadblack1776]

To be honest, if Sony acquired FromSoftware when they could there is no guarantee things would have worked out. FromSoftware was able to create the games they did because of the freedom Bandai/Namco has given them and the way that synergy and feedback works between them. The chemistry with Sony would have been different, not saying better or worse, just different, and most likely we wouldn't have gotten the games we got, or at least in the way we did.

[@agenerichuman]

Small correction: I think the game was published outside of Japan. It just wasn't published outside of Asia. I have the Hong Kong version when the game came out. It was in English. That's how most importers played it.

[@EndymionTv]

Interesting, thanks for letting me know

[@FayN_]

kinda relieved that fromsoft doesnt become ps exclusive otherwise i can't play sekiro, elden ring and armored core also look at bloodborne, they literally abandoned it

[@HisRoyalMajestyKingofWeedshire]

"You couldn't live with your own failure. And where did that bring you? Back to me." -Miyazaki when Sony comes to lick his boots.

[@arminthielen8570]

I remember selling hunderts of US Copys of the original Demon Souls until 18 Month later Sony published it in Europe .

[@keplomancer]

you're a hero

[@iHaveTheDocuments]

As most agree, fromsoftware is basically the best dev team around. I'm annoyed that I still can't play demon souls because it's on a console you can't find.

[@ash_1419]

Use Emulation.

[@yifeipei5484]

Not best.

[@wastelandwarrior3297]

Great video and commentary as usual !

[@cherubin7th]

Sony would have ruined FS for sure. It is best to stay independent for any game studio. This big corporations always ruin them sooner or later.

[@TheRisky9]

This is so weird because prior they had developed the King's Field series which, sure had its ups and downs, but wasn't directionless or visionless. A little rudimentary perhaps, but it still had a lot of elements that was adopted to the Soul's games, which were primarily trial by error. In fact, the Moonlight Sword in the original Dark Souls game is an easter egg from King's Field as are the sound effects for the menu.

[@upon-fe2720]

Could literally say this about any small studio that became big and any publisher. Any publisher could have bought FromSoft, they all missed out in tandem. It's arbitrary to mention Playstation.

[@SleeplessSpecter]

I wish when you were talking about Demon’s Souls (2009), you would actually show gameplay of the game made by From and not the remake not made by them.

[@SirPream]

Sony had a LONG time to acquire FROM. The Armored Core series was Playstation exclusive until Armored Core 4, which I think was 1997 to something like 2008. Granted the games were never blockbusters like the Souls series, they still helped carry FROM to where they are today. That said, I am glad to see that Sony missed the mark to get FROM on the cheap, though this still doesn't prevent Sony or MS from buying them up.

[@josetomascamposrobledano4618]

I kinda saw Sony’s dumb CEO’s harsh opinions on Demon’s as a failure… but considering Fromsoft still did Bloodborne for PS4 the failure wasn’t as big as it could have been. The heads of Sony weren’t dumb enough to keep a bad opinion and somehow manage to make a second deal for another exclusive game.

[@limitbreak2966]

wow I love your style man, I just subscribed you definitely earned my sub from this video alone, not even to mention all the other videos you probably have too ! i bet many others feel the same way! i hope you blow up and grow super big some day!

[@nikosmadamas3234]

thank god sony didnt buy fromsoftware back then imagine all from soft games only on ps4 that would be hell

[@rapidresponseteam6048]

I’m so glad Fromsoftware never stuck with Sony. I’m an Xbox player and Elden Ring was my first game from the genre and is easily my favorite game.

[@robrift]

Honestly I miss their old games I loved Armored Core and Chromehounds was amazing, heck even ninja blade for the Xbox 360 was actually a pretty decent game.

[@stinyg]

The demon souls remake should've been a multiplatform game. The game just came and went despite being so good. Even dark souls 3 pvp scene is still active. Demon souls remake pvp already died several months ago.

[@Mone7Hero77]

I think it was for the better because due to the sales of demons souls I doubt sony would’ve let Miyazaki do his vision.

[@hafizmazuki2443]

Sometimes i don't understand why demon soul & dark souls are so alluring. Maybe coming from monster hunter, makes it a bit easier for me to get into this type of game.

[@johjoh9270]

Action packed and challenging enough to not be boring but keeps a really simplistic gameplay so everyone can still play it with half brain off (and I don't mean that as a bad thing)

[@loafofcatgaming]

man im glad the Souls series isn't PS Exclusive

[@TomatoALeon]

Thanks to sony passing on mizaki helped pc gamers like us to experience one of the best games ever made.

[@gluttonyfang6674]

I've read threads in Gamefaq that when Demon Souls is released, it was compared to Monster Hunter and the players (mostly Japanese) are happy that they got a brutal game kinda similar to MonHun for the console. This info made me believe that the first lovers of the Souls-like genre are Monster Hunter players themselves, and I too fucking love it when I first tried it, I'm also thankful for the MH playerbase. I'm really glad that this studio bloomed to the giant it is today, they made fucking masterpieces.

[@NightSkyPictures1]

I wasn't his first time directing. He did 2 armored core games before Demon's souls

[@myusernameiscooldude]

nothing frustrates me more than how garbage the demons souls remake was

[@RaidenKaiser]

I find God of war (Norse) to be more 3rd person shooter than souls like with its vision. It's focus on strafing and ranged combat enemy management makes it feel less like a souls game to me.

[@mishael8631]

the golden rule of gaming is that every game has to be compared to DS

[@RaidenKaiser]

@@mishael8631 it's getting old I mean I love dark souls but it's getting annoying

[@mishael8631]

@@RaidenKaiser ik

[@demonseed360]

Thank god Sony never bought FromSoft. To this day, they're still holding Demon Souls and Bloodborne hostage. Imagine if Elden Ring was a Playstation exclusive for like the first decade of its life. Complete trash.

[@gray1shark]

I for one am glad Sony fucked up. Elden Ring being a PS5 exclusive would be a fucking tragedy.

[@Tackitt]

Sony first party games tend to be of the highest calibur. Fromsoft games may have benefited a great deal from that relationship. The way it worked out is just fine though.

[@Markus-se9se]

I doubt the whole Dark Souls series would be what it is if Sony had acquired them. I think they would have wanted to try to cater to a wider market and dumbed them down to me more accessible to more people.

[@EndymionTv]

If anything Sony is one of the only company/publishers that doesn’t dumb down their main games. Well except Horizon lol

[@stfuKassi]

This is the first time I’m hearing about a ‘Miyazaki dark souls difficulty skunk works’ inside the company. I could see that having to happen at Ubisoft, but just assumed fromsoft was more open minded that way because of their history

[@jmssun]

if they had made the decision to acquire FromSoftware, it feels like the teams would probably be forced into making only ideologically correct games, or have the studio sit on cold bench until the team dismantled and talents dissipated to other studios like the Japan Studio and Media Molecule

[@mikelawrence1876]

I'm glad Sony didn't buy them. Millions of people would miss out on these great games.

[@m33p0]

Demon's Souls was the Dark Souls of video game development.

[@snailthelostcow63]

Yoshida: "Man... If only I didn't just rage quit and continue git gud...."

[@jeremym8748]

Thank God things worked out the way they did. Bloodborne is bad enough, if elden ring was ps5 only something would have broken in me

[@frantsel5711]

the moment I picked up demon souls on ps3 I knew it was probably one of the best games ever made. I needed to pick it up 3 times again and failed miserably. But at one point it just clicked. I still think it is one of the greatest pieces of art ever made. Thank god we have people that do stuff different.

[@hieunguyenrileygekko]

just like yakuza 0, the pc version of Dark Souls was the main catalyst of its popularity also the frame of FromSoft among the community so being multiplatform was essential for the studio

[@leonidas3885]

Instead of saying Thank You Dark Souls, we should say Thank You Sony

[@EndymionTv]

Yes

[@hitlord]

There's no telling what would have happened to the Souls series (and the genre, given how big it became) if Sony had acquired FS back in the day. Would Dark Souls really be the glorious game it was? What if the corporate oversight/meddling caused by the acquisition ended up neutering the series, and the genre, as a whole? Miyazaki aside, because otherwise there would be no Souls without him, I think the only reason DS1 was so good, and the inception of the Souls series/genre ever happened, was because BANDAI trusted the game. Trusting Demon Souls after it released to poor numbers and reviews on their home soil wasn't just a "we trust the game you made was good", but it was also a "we trust YOU [Miyazaki] make good games" in his eyes. And that trust was probably what led to the birth of what we have today. A series so universally praised, it has cults both trying to deify the games and destroy them.

[@BRBMrSoul]

“Said it was ‘garbage’” Ya that’s me first week of any Souls game including Elden Ring haha

[@CrossXaberS]

Dark Souls muli platforms release was one of the key factor that popularized the genre.

[@akarshadithya5479]

it still bites them in the ass by eating up horizon forbidden west sales

[@MrNuclearz]

Thank God Sony dropped the ball and let Fromsoft slip away. These games are too good to be exclusives, everyone should be able to play them!

[@AbimaelTurcios3040]

Imagine if all From Software games were on a single platform it's painful to think what it would have been.

[@behzadmirmozaffari2563]

To be fair, at the time, Demon's Souls was madness! I have the the platinum trophy in all of the From Software's games, the soulslike ones mind you, including Demon's Souls remake, and yes, I also hated it when it first came out. Now that we have familiarity with this genre, it's a different story but back then that was a huge risk because it really was an obtuse game, it still is. No map, not even a compass, no journal, no clear explanation of stats or mechanics and the soul dropping on death was and still is imo really unnecessary and stupid. I mean I now know how to circumvent it; Just spend all of it before a boss fight and you go like bitch you can kill me all you want see if I care🤣 So yeah, Shuhei Yoshida wasn't really wrong. He's a businessman so he must make risk assessments and he was right at least about his own country.

[@darkfoxx133]

I'm so happy sony didn't buy from software, getting these on PC is a godsend

[@EndymionTv]

We just need Bloodborne ported onto pc and a native Ps5 version at 60fps

[@PabbyPabbles]

At the time most action games had an auto-checkpoint before any encounter, and would actively nag you with "WOULD YOU LIKE TO LOWER THE DIFFICULTY" messages between continues even though you were dying from crappy pits that wouldn't change in any way if enemies' hps stats got lowered a bit And quicktime events. Everywhere. All the time. They spent hundred of thousands of dollars on elaborate motioncapped setpieces only to force the audience to tunnelvision focus on shiny button prompts. And those on xbox360 were very unfriendly to anyone who grew up with a SNES

[@ForeseenSpark]

I genuinely hope Sony doesn't acquire FromSoftware. Would suck to have those games be exclusives outside of the ones that already are.

[@Freyafanboy90]

It's almost like the story with Decca Records passing on The Beatles.

[@Phirestar]

I’m personally quite thankful that Sony did not acquire FromSoftware. I have been predominately a PC player for most of my life - it’s now currently the only platform I play on - and the last Sony console that I owned was the PS2. So, needless to say, I would not have had the chance to experience the series for myself had they become a PlayStation-only studio. And that would’ve really sucked, because Dark Souls has been some of the best games I’ve played, both in recent times and all together. They’re the type of game that I never knew I wanted until I played them.

[@heinkelion]

Yoshida saying that he platinums all fromsoft games is like he is begging to them for coming back lmao