How gas rationing would work

[@fortissimolaud]

btw, the Russian gas shortage in Europe isn't the same gas that Americans are thinking about. American "gas" is a liquid

[@melelconquistador]

Also gas gas when you talk about our stoves.

[@nickkk420]

Think "natural gas"

[@danielmay7266]

We’re aware dw

[@mookiecookie44]

We know what natural gas is. We use it here as well.

[@onnayoung7699]

but we all know the true American gas problem in taco bell.

[@JohnHarrerHorses]

Your videos are always so fun to watch. I worked at a gas station in Santa Barbara in 1973. I understood the early chaos was brought on by people who normally only kept 1/4 to 1/2 a tank in the car switching to keeping their tank constantly full. It was much like the COVID Toilet Paper crisis. Great to see your channel growing.

[@dashiellgillingham4579]

The small town, or the county that stole it's name and recently became large enough to have it's own representatives?

[@gregorymalchuk272]

Well, that's what communist rationing does. If they had just allowed the price to rise, the least economic uses of gas would have been dropped and the demand would fall to meet supply.

[@iainronald4217]

Governments: Gents and gals, we've gotta reduce gas usage in America. What's the solution? Random Gov't worker: How about we undo the highway-focused development of people like Robert Moses and Ebeneezer Howard in favour of a new urbanist stance? Something like emphasizing mixed land use in businesses and retail parks, building upwards not outwards with a heavy focus on condos and flats, and giving whatever remaining gas there is to transit systems. We also need to expand transit systems because three mediocre transit systems in a city are better than one great one. *everyone stares blankly, blinking* Random Gov't worker 2: How about off/on fueling days? Governments: This man is a genius!

[@melelconquistador]

Low hanging fruit for the short run.

[@memyselfishness]

Not everyone wants to live in urban cities.

[@iainronald4217]

@@memyselfishness New Urbanism isn't about cities vs towns; It's about using the land that we have most effectively. You can still follow New Urbanist principles and live in a town with 900 people. Did you know that a single unit family home, every year, uses the same amount of energy as twenty mixed-use businesses? That energy should be stored and used for better purposes. What about all of the animals whose habitats are destroyed every time we build suburbs? Or, the global food shortage that's occurring, yet we think it prescient to turn agricultural land into residential. There are also some things that New Urbanism is designed to prevent. The reason we argue for food stores, transit stops, and government agencies within 450m of every front door is to allow people to live their lives more easily. There are a lot of people who have to travel 20+km to buy food because the planners of their neighbourhood never thought to put in a 7/11 or ExtraFoods. Or, seniors who have to rely on family or HandiBus to get their bills paid or talk to service Canada.

[@deus_ex_machina_]

@@memyselfishness True, some people (like myself) prefer rural living. The problem is that suburbs are a cancer that metastasizes into both urban and rural areas. No suburbs means that urban dwellers can easily access nature, and rural residents can easily access the city for services and amenities. Why is this mutual exchange necessary? Because people (sadly) don't care about preserving something they don't personally benefit from.

[@shakthianjanananayakkara6528]

Well, here in Sri Lanka gas (I mean petrol and diesel) rationing started like a month ago, probably for the first time in history. Instead of the age old ration book or coupon systems, we have a government run mobile app, that scans a QR code. Every car is currently allowed to buy 20 liters per week while larger and smaller vehicle get some accordingly. They are making updates to the system to be able to register commercial vehicles that are used for special purposes and give them more fuel and would probably roll it out next month. This system would probably go on for another year or so till we restructure our debt and get the IMF bailout.

[@yegfreethinker]

Don't let the IMF bully your gov't into privatizing essential government services if you can help it. So suck of the IMF trying to make countries financialize everything. "...So your problem is money" "yes and solutions more money????" 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

[@WaitintheWings]

Another great video on a topic I never knew I needed to know about but am happy I do now!

[@jordanbloomfield]

We had a major flood here in BC Nov 2021, and non-essentials were limited to 30L per car per fill up to prevent and slow the panic buying and it mostly worked! Everyone just figured that everyone else was limited to about half of what they normally got and drove conservatively or just filled up more frequently but more spread out

[@dustinbelle3251]

Great video! I like hearing about random semi-historical factoids that are novel to the internet! Thanks 😊

[@dustinbelle3251]

@Samurai Nuts thanks for the suggestion! I watch him from time to time but Phil is a little better I think due to better cinematography and being a bit too short. Some of JJs can be a but long winded for topic at hand.

[@AuthenticTraveling]

You get criminally low views for the quality of your work, Phil. Hoping to see you grow this channel more and more.

[@IMPERIALYT]

Great video, a topic that's relevant to everyone in this age unfortunately and something that people are not as versed in. As someone who lives right next to Germany, a country where saunas are now temporarily banned from operating due to gas scarcity, this video hits close to home.

[@PhilEdwardsInc]

enjoyed your Franco video just yesterday!

[@IMPERIALYT]

@@PhilEdwardsInc that's so good to hear! Glad you enjoyed it, it means a lot coming from you

[@BlairCarlyle]

“Billions of coupons in the desert waiting to be destroyed” is my favorite Doors lyric

[@PhilEdwardsInc]

*organ playing intensifies*

[@nlpnt]

WW2 gas rationing, at least in America, was more about tires than gasoline itself. It was still almost all natural rubber at the start of the war (which itself gave a huge boost to synthetics) and almost all the world's sources of natural rubber were controlled by Japan as of the end of 1941.

[@gregorymalchuk272]

Rationing of everything, especially oil, was a pure psychological operation against the American people through artificial scarcity. The United States was rich in every resource beyond a poet's dream, ESPECIALLY oil.

[@AaronOfMpls]

Yup, rubber may be native to Central and South America. But in 1941-42, most of the world's rubber came from countries in Southeast Asia and Australasia -- exactly where Japan was invading at the time.

[@swschilke]

in Germany (West) they did days where only essential car drivers where allowed to drive (on Sunday's) the police controlled, like the Autobahn etc., that make a lot of bicycles use the Autobahn. btw: wasn't there a case where someone stole pages form the NYC library rare book collection to sell them? something like that I would think would be a worthwhile video, wouldn't? or their hotline for questions etc. other unique archives or Library, museums and collections.

[@MrShaclakclak]

Phil, I just wanna say after watching all my "doom-and-gloom" videos. You come on. It's like opening the window in a stuffy house. I smile then laugh at your bad jokes, it's just what I need. And at the same time I learn somthing. Phil, thank you.

[@IONATVS]

I think a gas card system could work, where each card had an ID number tied to a government ration account and the pump checks how many ration units you have left in your account and sets that as your max draw…but honestly the cashlike coupon system seems more inclusive of the poor, easier to trade or sell on the white market when you don’t need it, and is only slightly less convenient. Might be harder to get pumps to accept them automatically, but no harder than cash to process manually. It’s probably still the more elegant solution, even if the card might be more convenient for those who have stopped carrying cash.

[@PhilEdwardsInc]

Yeah that’s also why I think the card is unlikely - there would be a lot of edge cases to consider.

[@lukel653]

i have a tough time watching something for longer than 3 minutes. but your videos are actually really easy to watch

[@PhilEdwardsInc]

thanks! appreciate all the minutes!

[@malbliss4491]

After getting bank cards recently for Healthcare expenses, one to get paid for a DHHS medical research study, and another card just to get a small student tuition refund, I think it would be trivial for the government to mail out a credit card for every household that could be loaded with cash and only be used to purchase a certain number of gallons of gasoline per day. The payflex card even knows if what you're buying is Healthcare related automatically!

[@PhilEdwardsInc]

This makes me slightly less skeptical of a higher tech fix….

[@Calv_]

On the question at the end, I think the system is simple enough for rationing, the only issue is we'd have to treat it like money with countermeasures for people just photoshopping their own and printing their own rationing stamps.

[@jordanmcgrory2171]

Which wouldn't really be that big of a challenge. It isn't only money which attracts an anti-counterfeiting operation and embeds anti-counterfeit measures. Things like postage stamps do too. It's something that government has good experience of.

[@IONATVS]

They’d likely have to deploy the same anti-counterfeit measures used on modern currency of similar value, but that is not hard to imagine them doing for modern ration stamps.

[@xXTomokoKurokiXx]

Thanks for always making such high-quality videos!

[@TheWhiskeyShow]

Excellent music choices and sound design. Maybe the most polished vid I've seen from you

[@PhilEdwardsInc]

thanks! had a smidge more time and comments like this make it worth it

[@Thebreakdownshow1]

Lol I was just on your channel looking for the biweekly video, yesterday and here we are.

[@creepyoldlady2995]

Another fascinating video. So glad I found your channel!

[@phillipgray9327]

Loving the videos Phil! Leave Vox and go full time like Cleo. Much love -Another Phil

[@PhilEdwardsInc]

Thanks Phil - Phil

[@phillipgray9327]

​@@PhilEdwardsIncyaaaaaaaaassssssssssssss!! So happy to see you finally go Indy Phil!!!

[@grahamrankin4725]

Having worked for a major oil company during that gas crisis in the 70s, and currently driving a hybrid, gas rationing would probably drive more people to electric vehilces.

[@GotDamBoi]

the people that can afford electric vehicles are not the people that will be affected by high gas prices/rationing. this only fucks over people that can't afford electric vehicles

[@andrewo4814]

This is what I came to the comments for. People hate taxes and subsidies, so could rationing help solve climate change? As an EV driver, would I rather destroy my rations for the planet, or sell them to a gas driver for greed... Moral dilemma. What can we do?

[@peppermintalist]

I’m new here and am loving your channel! Such great topics. I feel like the same stories are told over and over, but there are so many others we never hear. Thank you!

[@PhilEdwardsInc]

thanks! that's a goal so nice of you to mention!

[@princessjillian]

Please keep the content coming!

[@channdler]

I really love the personal channel. Incredible quality videos for a smaller audience. feel like I'm in the VIP club

[@PhilEdwardsInc]

new york’s hottest club…is this youtube channel

[@channdler]

@@PhilEdwardsInc you have got to try the Why the USA nuked mannequins. incredible original recipe

[@carlsoll]

These are so cool. Thanks Phil! Great videos, awesome stufff

[@joshgreen2366]

I've always wondered how people today would react to the kinds of rationing that occurred in the 1940s. And then COVID came around, and that sorta showed me that it wouldn't be pretty (which I honestly expected). Now, I'm convinced that if rationing were to ever come back, people would complain and call it communism.

[@Croz89]

The problem is that you often end up with a two-tier system, those with the financial means to get around the rationing, legally or illegally, and those without. You see it with odd-even restrictions in congested cities, those that can afford it buy two cars with different parity plates or buy a swish apartment closer in, those that can't are then disadvantaged, they spend more time commuting, they have to curtail their leisure activities, move into denser housing with less space, or they may even have to give up their job or lose out on recruitment to someone who is able to be more reliable. In the case here, EV's present one potential cause of a two-tier system, and will probably be completely legal. A wealthy person can sell their ICE car and buy a high performance EV, whereas a poor person is stuck with their ICE that they can't use as much, or can only afford a budget EV with limited range. This could have the same kind of effects on commuting time, employment, housing quality and access to leisure.

[@PhilEdwardsInc]

Yeah, especially with a likely sanctioned white market, that’d confuse things more.

[@BenOlivas]

​@@PhilEdwardsInc Thanks for this video! The section on gas rationing during WWII reminds me of a poster my high school history teacher had encouraging people to carpool, with big bold text proclaiming, "When you ride ALONE, you ride with Hitler!" For the "Standby Gasoline Rationing Plan," it's interesting that the gas rationing vouchers were called "coupons," since I'd distinguish between rationing - strict quantity limits, if still tradeable - and coupons (essentially monetary discounts). Julia Galef discuss this topic on her "Rationally Speaking" podcast (ep. 257 "Price Gouging") with two economists, and determines that while rationing & anti-price gouging laws policies often fail in practice, direct payments in times of crisis may be effective. (At certain points they contrast rationing & rent control with food stamps & basic income, and conclude that the latter is preferable.) Of course, this would likely mean higher taxes compared to the rationing policies, but today, given how increased gas prices affect people unequally, I feel direct payments would be more popular.

[@PhilEdwardsInc]

@@BenOlivas Thanks for that carefully thought out comment. Haven't heard the Rationally Speaking podcast. I get the logic behind payments/letting the market decide, but I admit that going through this literature made me wonder if that might have an increasingly inflationary effect and be a little regressive (because it'd hit food delivery harder than under a ration system). Of course, I'm sure the economists have thought this through (though we currently are living through huge inflation that they somehow did not anticipate after sending out big checks to people)...

[@tryingmybest206]

Petrol prices have been falling in the US? Damn in Australia it has NOT been falling, it's been rising

[@alexmalt]

I feel like there’s more LSD in that laugh than pain.

[@andrewo4814]

How to ration gas to solve climate change? How about a cap and trade system? 1. Everyone with a driver's license has a DK number, so the government can create individual accounts using DMV info. 2. The government rations credits into ever driver's DL account, as needed. 3. Driver's swipe, scan, at pump or show DL to the cashier before fueling. 4. When credits reach zero, pump turns off. 5. Credits also redeemable on ride-sharing apps, airlines, and mass transit. 6. Government gradually reduces credits over time, forcing behavior change. 7. Angry people, happy planet.

[@laurabowles]

I'd love to have a conversation with Laughing Guy and see what he makes of the world today.

[@PhilEdwardsInc]

please give me a ring when you and he meet up and chat

[@andrewo4814]

John Oliver's crew is pretty good about hunting things like this. Maybe see if they aren't on strike and can use it for his show?

[@one-man-band]

Just leaving a comment because you're awesome.

[@PhilEdwardsInc]

don’t deserve it but i’ll take it!

[@XxXenosxX]

Always informative, thank you Phil!

[@8843南京]

Interesting topic, but let's not confuse "American gas" and "European gas". Gas in the US is "car fuel", by "gas" in Europe we mean natural gas, used for cooking/heating/electricity production. When we talk about possible gas rationing in Europe next winter, we are talking about natural gas.

[@PhilEdwardsInc]

good point!

[@cyan_oxy6734]

There's no "European gas". There's gas and petrol.

[@IONATVS]

@@cyan_oxy6734 And Petrol used to be called “Gasoline” (a trademark dodging name for off-brand Cazeline, the original brand of what Europeans now call “Petrol”) on both sides of the pond before the term “Petrol” was coined. America just never got the memo when the newer term caught on in Europe. It is annoying that Gasoline’s most natural abbreviation is just “gas” but since Methane gas is normally called “natural gas” in the US (again a legacy term from when it needed to be distinguished from other gasses used for gas lamps) it only causes confusion when discussing foreign affairs. Though even here it will just be called “gas” when context makes it clear, such as discussing cooking or home heating. And Russia was also the world’s 2nd largest exporter of Petroleum Crude Oil, and exported a LOT of it to Europe, so the confusion really is pretty understandable.

[@noahrenken3773]

Love these videos. Always enjoy the Sunday posts; this is somewhat like a church, right?

[@connorhalleck2895]

The solution now is electric buses. If we can get just people in cities to take transit by making transit actually great like having dedicated bus lanes and buses that run every six minutes, we can aluminate a huge amount of gas usage which will free up gas for the people who actually need it

[@emmamarentette]

nice video, I really enjoy the work you are doing

[@bilbodabbins8273]

That guy’s laugh is genuinely horrifying. I hope he is doing better now.

[@RoxYgen03]

Always fascinating.

[@Darknamja]

We had gas rations when I lived in the FRG in the '70s. I drove an economical VW Beetle.

[@WanukeX]

Europeans: Americans and Canadians call Petrol simply “Gas”, that’s what he’s talking about. Americans and Canadians: when Europeans talk about “gas”, they mean natural gas.

[@PhilEdwardsInc]

lesson learned on this one!

[@ailo4x4]

I remember growing up and seeing all the government ads offering public information. All you had to do was write the office in Pueblo, Colorado. It seemed then to be the repository of all human knowledge ;-)

[@MaxVliet]

we have an energy crisis in the UK atm with prices set to rise 400% this year... I wish they would ration based on need rather than on the ability to pay because millions will not be able to afford their bills come winter :(

[@andrewo4814]

Exactly. That's a good example of where a rationing system might work. Maybe tie it to individual driver's license numbers? So you have to swipe or scan your DL at the pump or the clerk scans or enters your DL number. Rich people get the same rations as poor people. Essential services get exempt. Could be easier to control and no need to physically create anything so it could be implemented quickly.

[@nirakhurana]

I think another issue for the US and some countries would be that there is not really alternatives to transportation for people in or outside cities.

[@andrewo4814]

Wouldn't it encourage carpooling?

[@julianatlas5172]

Gas in European English means natural gas, so the "gas shortage" is a different thing. (We call the car liquid petrol)

[@HipyoTech]

Man if only we weren't so car dependent as a culture/country. :(

[@PhilEdwardsInc]

It is hard to imagine escaping it at this point….the only way out is through.

[@Xanderall]

What? A new Phil video? And it's not even my bday!! Hold on, I'm gonna grab a cup of coffee and get in my comfy chair to watch it proper!

[@cadenbigler]

Honestly it sounds like that plan they had was not too bad. I do wonder if with significantly better technology there would be a more simple way of distribution. For instance if we could get everyone to download an app that they would scan before getting gas (that you signed into with your driver's license, or something. That might be a challenge) it might actually be pretty simple to keep track of gas purchases and consumption for individuals. However we'd probably have people complaining about government overreach just like we had during COVID. Another difficulty about utilizing technology is ensuring that everyone could have access to it. The nice thing about those physical cards is that they would be much easier to distribute to lower income families who would honestly be affected most by gas shortages. At the end of the day sometimes not involving technology might be the surest solution. Interesting thoughts, thanks for the vid!

[@Stone45781]

Looks like Sri Lanka now

[@JamesJimmyMcGill]

Whoa, your videos are way underrated what's up with that? Cheers, keep it up.

[@PhilEdwardsInc]

Thanks, Snot Brains (hahah, that was a joy to type).

[@meluckycharms111]

You could probably use this to draw some conclusions on what may happen in areas of the world struggling with water availability

[@PhilEdwardsInc]

oof never would have thought of that, but yeah

[@krysnb84]

Very interesting and good to think about in this day and age, thanks for making and vanilla coke yummm 😋

[@PhilEdwardsInc]

the diet vanilla coke has given me a renewed sense of purpose!

[@jonathandevries2828]

i imagine if gas rationing had to be done today, the government would follow the EBT model...basically a credit card

[@mbox314]

The real solution to a fuel shortage would be to raise prices. Rationing makes the doctors and nurses wait in line along with the college students on break. The people in the government of course who print the ration cards can hand them out to their friends and family, government officials won't be subject to rationing and the artificially low price will not encourage extra production.

[@cwaldrip]

Pain in that laughter? Nah… dude’s high as a satellite. :-p

[@PhilEdwardsInc]

in california?!? in the 70s?!?!! never!

[@RooSandwich]

I'm kinda tired so I don't really have much to comment apart from the fact that I really enjoyed this brief analysis of the history of gas rationing in the US. Also just wanna give the algorithm a little nudge towards your channel

[@PhilEdwardsInc]

thanks for the nudge - have a good nap/sleep

[@michaelgergen4318]

I found your take on contact tracing interesting. Were you not concerned about the privacy implications and what kind of precedent it was setting?

[@PhilEdwardsInc]

I’m personally not, but I know a ton of people are (no doubt reasonably), so that seems like a reason an app gad solution might be doomed too.

[@jordanmcgrory2171]

I think the dismissal of a digital solution is based solely on the US experience of the pandemic. Other countries did far better when it came to digital contact tracing, online booking of vaccine appointments etc. and may be willing to embark upon a digital approach to ration coupons. It'd certainly be cheaper to woosh a fresh coupon onto a person's smartphone than to print and handout physical tokens. The handing out in particular would be labour intensive.

[@PhilEdwardsInc]

And this is about rationing in the US!

[@WalterBurton]

You already see the first stage of imposed gasoline rationing going on right now: price fluctuation. We won't see stronger measures (odd-even or debit cards or whatever) in this country until we're 1) in an openly-declared war posture (😬😬😬), ***AND*** 2) actually suffering national shortages. Think Colonial Pipeline x 10, or, maybe, shipping a lot of refined product out of the country (to support an ally or occupy a country or whatever); that's the sort of environment we'd have to be in. The US doesn't have a gasoline supply problem. Not any more. But it's an interesting historical topic (because I was there, man, in '79! I love this stuff!) and just always fascinating to think about how to manage societal behavior. 👍👍👍

[@PhilEdwardsInc]

I can only half believe it was so bad with OPEC. Craziness.

[@WalterBurton]

@@PhilEdwardsInc : It was weird. Unsettling. And we blamed it all on Jimmy Carter. Which was so unfair.

[@aerokas4817]

On today's episode of what am I doing while watching your videos, Today I am cleaning the laundry which involves the kitty quarters and little presents where they shouldn't be 🎁

[@PhilEdwardsInc]

i’ll give them a talking to

[@ikeyshuster9801]

Great

[@TSZatoichi]

I think Phil made this video just so he could use the "laughing man" clip.

[@PhilEdwardsInc]

not untrue

[@Wat-Dat]

I love your videos

[@Wat-Dat]

@🅦hatsapp+⓵⓸⓵⓸⓶⓺⓼⓷⓻⓪⓪ shut up

[@kevinmcgrath5126]

I mean, we already have EBT cards that are fairly widely used to manage SNAP benefits, would something similar not work for rationing gasoline? They're compatible with many POS systems widely in use today at grocery stores, bodegas, convenience stores, etc.

[@maureennalepa8548]

That was my thought exactly. I don't know what white market would look like with those, but we can transfer all kinds of balances, so I assume it's possible.

[@PhilEdwardsInc]

I wonder if there you’d run into problems matching with vehicle registration (if it were still done that way).

[@drewdavis2392]

If the plan includes a white market so that transferring your unneeded ration were legal, then you don't need to match the card with the vehicle.

[@FimiliarGalaxy9]

“Anybody who is capable to drill, go ahead and drill”. There that’s how… there is no reason we don’t do this already.

[@johnpaulsylvester3727]

I’ve been wondering a lot lately how different America would look today if Eisenhower had pushed for massive rail expansion instead of the interstate system.

[@PhilEdwardsInc]

That’s a cool idea for an alternate history. I think his military background helped push him to highways for sure.

[@jimboshizz]

Odd numbers seems the most logical to me, no need to print anything or do anything more than check the number plates coming in, which can work with ANPR

[@mbogucki1]

Gas Rationing wouldn't be that bad if North America didn't design their cities around the car. But in the great "Urban Renewal" experiment of the 60s/70s they designed the suburbs in a way where you have to drive 30mins just to buy a bag of milk.

[@jevandezande]

It would be nice if this video had comments from economists on the potential best way to deal with a shortage. My understanding is that they seem to favor market based solutions such as higher gas taxes to reduce consumption, but such measures are politically unpopular. Some of this could be offset via direct payments from the government-the high prices would then cause many people to find ways to conserve gas, but people could also afford it if necessary thanks to the government handout.

[@PhilEdwardsInc]

Yeah, I mean they love carbon pricing too, but politically is it gonna happen? 🤷‍♂️

[@matt45540]

Rationing doesn't necessarily mean reducing consumption, it's redistributing the consumption to people who actually need it.

[@cooljonathan]

Even if there isn't an oil shortage, we should just ration gas anyways to discourage driving and ease traffic.

[@imark7777777]

It's the government NO it's not gonna be updated. They'll be somebody wondering why all these newspaper delivery vehicles are running around with full tanks in 2223.

[@biwook]

I don't think there will be major fuel shortages in the next decade or so, but electricity shortage seems very likely. It'd have huge consequences in a world that's gone half digital. Rationing solutions for electricity would be something more hi-tech than physical coupons. I'm not even sure how it could be implemented on current electrical infrastructure.

[@josephmiller9180]

I thought this was a new video and the shave the moustache vote won! 😱

[@PhilEdwardsInc]

sadly the mustache won out

[@josephmiller9180]

@@PhilEdwardsInc long live the stache

[@spacepeanut8993]

It was about tires, not gasoline. Really enjoy the channel though!

[@tbird81]

If they ever make a remake of ALF, you need to be Willie Tanner!

[@PhilEdwardsInc]

I’d love the opportunity to work with someone from Melmac.

[@pewtone]

0:55 😆🍻

[@PhilEdwardsInc]

🍻

[@MrTrevorkemp]

The problem with gas rationing is implementing a solution that would be virtually fail proof would be difficult cuz you couldn't rely on a virtual way of rationing gas you would have to give some physical media to people that either gas pumps would have to be able to accept and dispense a certain amount of gas and probably still charge for it or you might even have to go into the gas station and pay up front for the specific number of units of gas that you are trying to get the other problem is if we went into gas rationing for people like me I'm a full-time Rideshare driver giving passenger rides so I would need the Rideshare company I'm working for to require the people who are getting rides to a lot me some of their gas rations as well so that way I could continue to keep putting gas in my car so that way I could keep driving those people around if we did a physical media gas ration ticket like we did for the example you showed for World War II I would essentially have to require that people handed me a ration coupon before I could start the trip with them and hopefully each ration coupon is not for a full gallon more like a quarter of a gallon or a third of a gallon or a half of a gallon but in order for that to work for us Rideshare drivers we would have to start telling the Rideshare companies are odometer readings and how much gas we put in to fill up the tank of the car every time so they could work out a fuel economy so they could require the proper amount of gas rations for a net gain but they would have to base that average on the worst fuel economy car in the fleet in the area cuz it may not be me showing up in a Toyota Prius it could be somebody showing up in a Jeep or even a Toyota Land Cruiser that's getting a measly 13 miles per gallon instead of my 40 plus mile per gallon car but the amount of gas rations exchanged would have to be something determined by the Rideshare company so that way when people go and order rides they could be told how much of their rations they would have to be willing to trade to the company to then trade to us so that way we could keep gas in our cars to keep giving these people rides gas rationing would become a gigantic pain in the butt or at least if we did a physical media thing they could tell the people how much gas rations to give us it's kind of funny because probably having a Rideshare sticker in your windshield would allow you to free purchase gas just as long as you have the ration coupons where even if you did have the ration coupons some places might not be willing to dispense gas cuz it would probably be more of a logbook type thing as well so I could start getting stickers for Rideshare companies and selling them for big bucks for people who have the rations but just aren't being given the gas.

[@andrewo4814]

1. Driver's license numbers from the DMV get associated with a government fuel ration account. 2. Drivers swipe their DL at the pump before it dispenses fuel. Pump will stop if credits run out. 3. For ride shares, riders register their DL with the ride-sharing app. 4. Credits transfer from the rider to the driver for each ride, based on distance and will error if account is zero. Also, no additional credits for Jeep drivers vs. Prius drivers. The whole point is to incentivize conservation.

[@patrick247two]

You don't need rationing, just sensible vehicles.

[@karlkastor]

East Germany had a huge reserve of a new currency to replace the old one in case of an extreme inflation

[@writethatdown100]

I think a better title of the video might be "Why the U.S printed millions of gas coupons" or something like that. Idk though

[@PhilEdwardsInc]

fair!

[@rbyerly]

If the world is still around in 10 years, my bet is on electrification of cars and we ditch fossil fuels.

[@cee8mee]

How do you get the electricity? Solar and wind can't do it all.

[@eragonlindemann7236]

All that does is move the consumption of those fuels up the line a stage.

[@G33K177]

Yeah gas rations are cool but have you ever tried good public transit?

[@chris2790]

I was 5 during the odd even rationing days. Long lines, pain in the butt.

[@SirBlade666]

These days it would either be app-based or use camera's to scan your license plate and check your gas allowance in a central database.

[@PhilEdwardsInc]

Maybe someday…but not anytime soon IMHO.

[@gameeverything816]

Neat

[@likebot.]

I've always suspected that the measures taken in the '70s was a publicity stunt to make Americans believe they had some personal yet small effect and that pulling together it would make a real difference. We had the same energy crisis in Canada but all we did was pay higher prices and lower speed limits. Rationing was barely thinkable, and per capita Canadians use more fossil fuel than Americans because igloos. By the late 70s we were pacified by switching to the Metric system of weights and measurements, jamming a crayon in our brain and happily Shelling out 25 cents per litre. (Shell Oil joke ftw).

[@PhilEdwardsInc]

I’d like to learn more about the Canadian approach - that’s interesting.

[@GotDamBoi]

this comment section "ACTUALLY gAs iN aMeRiCa iSn'T aCtUaLlY gAs iT's a lIqUiD iM vErY sMaRt" edit: you were excited about the COVID tracking app? weird

[@PhilEdwardsInc]

i realize i’m a little weird in that now that it failed so spectacularly hahah

[@anne-fleurp]

I just want to know who the lady is standing next to Gracie Allen in that picture. I mean that is a 2010’s haircut!

[@PhilEdwardsInc]

Ruby Black, press club President! We can form the Ruby Black fan club now. www.loc.gov/item/2016883959/

[@jbstepchild]

How much money is wasted by the gov every year on ideas that might help but fall short the mark some would have been great ideas an others what was they thinking any time there is a control on something the cost to maintain that control is 10+ times more expensive

[@PraxZimmerman]

You know, cut 75% of our gas consumption, and triple ethanol production, and we'd probably survive all gasoline disappearing. Painful as all hell, don't get me wrong, and would probably need to do the same with biodiesel, but it wouldn't be any worse than WWII I don't think.

[@FirstNameLastName-gh9iw]

Ohh a movie about robbing the gas coupons to sell on the black market

[@QuintusAntonious]

With as divided and quarrelsome as American politics are getting, even if we could get such a measure passed and not overturned, I'm not sure if rationing of any kind would work unless the federal government seized all gas reserves and distributed them to select stations under armed guard. Likewise, down stream on the consumer end, we'd probably see a huge spike in gas theft similar to how catalytic converters are getting stolen right now. Ultimately, I don't think rationing of any kind of currently easily available commodity would work in the current American climate without some kind of violent backlash at some level. It'd have to be implemented in such a way that people didn't see it as rationing, such as clever control of the available amount being released paired with consumer protectionism to prevent runaway price increases, kind of like how they do rolling blackouts in the summer to save power grids.

[@PhilEdwardsInc]

Yeah I have to agree it can be hard to imagine…

[@MsEverAfterings]

I think a bank app seems most likely. Like if there is an EV charging app on your phone, why can’t this be done at gas station and it can implement some rationing.

[@PhilEdwardsInc]

I wonder if you’d run into access issues - I think the government still is t at the point where it can rely on apps (or execute in creating them).

[@andrewo4814]

How about just scan your Driver's license? Every driver has a DL, even if they don't have a smart phone. The DMV knows all the DL numbers, so ration accounts can be associated with DL numbers. Also makes it harder for a black market because people keep their DL closely held.

[@aanariananda3963]

Indonesia have this app that rationing fuel that get subsidized by goverment

[@possiblyadog]

Due to the increasing demographic of libertarian sentiment, valuing individual rights over government-established policy even for the greater good, there's no way a rationing system could be introduced nowadays

[@PhilEdwardsInc]

It is hard to imagine it going well….but sometimes there’s no other choice!

[@stekra3159]

May be we schoud introduce gas raioning just to save CO2 to save the planet.

[@andrewweaver2517]

Jam band economics?